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How to Install a Ventless Natural Gas Fireplace
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- Опубліковано 25 гру 2020
- In this video, How to Install a Ventless Natural Gas Fireplace, ( the Superior VRL4543 or DRL4543) home renovation brothers Dave and Rich and Dave's son, Caleb, show you an amazing DIY project.
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There are 3 steps to installing the ventless natural gas fireplace:
1) create a frame and insert the ventless fireplace into this frame
2) add DuraRock, or other cement board to the ventless fireplace frame
3) add a stone veneer to the cement board.
We previously made a video where we show how to add the stone veneer to the cement board. The video is called: How to Tile a Fireplace - Add Stone Veneer
A link to that video is below:
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We will soon post a video where we show how to install cement board to the ventless fireplace frame.
To install a ventless natural gas fireplace, the first step is to build a frame for the unit.
After that, have a plumber run a natural gas line.
Hook up the natural gas fireplace to the gas line.
Hope this helps!
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Was up all night watching your videos and I'm gonna keep watching them all day
Hey John,
That’s awesome!!!!!! Thanks VERY much for all of that time ! We’ll try to keep you in videos, but your pace is certainly faster than we can edit😅. Enjoy!!!uu
No bubbles , No troubles ....
Hey Chris,
True! Thx for watching!
Very nice job, great finished product. Should be an extra burner, though. Disappointing flame.
Agreed. But in spite of that, it puts out a ton of heat.
Thx for watching!
thanks for the share HouseBarons : ) great info and looks pretty straight forward ..
Hey Jimmy,
Thx for watching!
I gave ya a thumbs up because of how nice it came out, I can't handle ventless, something about it i must be sensitive to the minimum about on CO in the air
Hey Anthony,
True. Some people are more sensitive. Thx for watching
Great tutorial! I looked for weekend to find this type of tutorial, thank you for adding. I just installed the exact same fireplace in my house. Could you add the fireplace name so it’s easier to search for?
Hey KandJ,
Sounds like perfect timing...finally. Glad it helped. I just added the fireplace name to the video description - that should help people in the future. Good input! Thanks for watching and enjoy a cozy winter near the fire!
I do not see a brand of fireplace anywhere in the public description.what is it please?
Awesome!!
Hey L.D.,
Thank you so much!
I have a square gas fireplace with tile around it. I would like to know if I can make it rectangular that way I have more space avobe for my TV and maybe add a beam or a small mantle? I will also take tile down and update it. House was built in 2005. Will this be too expensive to change opening shape of fireplace?
Bought a see thru ventless recently. Came with no glass panels on either side. Ours will be indoor/outdoor. Company we purchased from says that ventless units cannot have glass panels as they need to be open to pull in air to mix with fuel. I thinks this must be incorrect. How can you install a 2 sided to outdoors with no glass.? It looks as though the one in this video has a glass panel. Correct.?
Hey Bill,
No glass front. That’s just a reflection from the inside back panel.
But if yours is 2-sided, could one side have a glass front??? Just wondering out loud…
Thx for watching!
Did you leave a access to shut off valves and connection on floor.. also that flex you used can't run thru wood or fire place like that
Hey Tracker.,
We have a Viega manabloc for the entire house. Plus we had shutoffs under the tub to keep from running the 3 stories to the basement.
As for the flex- true.
Today they have much better drain set-ups available.
Thx for watching!
@@HousebaronsI believe you commented on the wrong thing
What happens if this heater needs to be serviced? How do you remove it from what appears to be a permanent stone surround!
Hey William,
There is some access from inside the fireplace. Worst case - a little deconstruction. 🤣
Thx for watching
The flames look so small. Is this something about the gas pressure? Can you get larger flames?
Hey Aadish,
Thats probably a question for the manufacturer...but I think that is normal. If the flame were bigger, you couldn't have it on for long - it generates A LOT of heat!
Thx for watching.
If it's ventless then the gas from combustion stays in the room? This is not an issue? This sounds like a great idea but can you help me understand why there is no issue with carbon monoxide or other dangerous gases?
Hey thaitichi,
There is quite some debate about this.
On the pro side, natural gas burns efficiently and is compared to using a gas stove or oven which aren’t always vented to the outside.
Ventless fireplace manufacturing is highly regulated for safety.
On the con side, California, Massachusetts and Canada have banned them. In theory they are safe and in theory they could be unsafe...
Last I saw, no one has died from a ventless fireplace.
We have a CO detector on that floor just to be sure all is well.
It’s a judgement call but we like it. It brings A LOT of heat to the room. A typical vented gas fireplace loses LOTS of heat up the chimney... definitely trade-offs.
Thanks for watching!
@@Housebarons Thanks for the info. Loving the videos!
Thanks again!!! We plan on keeping them coming !
thaichi. Check the manufacture but most come with a Safety Assurance: O.D.S. (Oxygen Depletion Sensor) included with automatic shut-off. So if the oxygen levels get too low they will automatically shut down. A nice safety feature. Hope this helps.
I had a ventless but ended up returning it. Found out I'm sensitive to even the slightest natural gas smell. Even worse, one of the by products for burning gas is H2O so it caused humidity to raise and condensation on the windows.
Is the flame open? Or is there some sort of glass covering the front of the fireplace?
Hey Evan,
No - it’s open. The heat just pours into the room!!
Thx for watching!
This is great, I just wish you'd shown a little more detail on the framing. Looks like the square top to bottom are 2x4's, correct? In the front, is there also a 2x4 butted up against that front board on each side facing inward?
On the bottom base (the 4 support boards in between), what size boards those?
For the cement boards, do you have to tape the seams and corners, or can you just tile right on top since it's not a wet area?
Hey Camala,
Before we placed the fireplace box in, everything you see are 2x4’s.
The front corners are (2) 2x4’s one perpendicular to the other to form a corner.
The base on which the fireplace sits is 5/8 or 3/4 inch plywood supported by the shorter 2x4’s.
We later added that 2x10 header to help carry the weight if the cement board and tile which is substantial.
We did not tape, just tiled over it.
Hope that helps....
Thx for watching!
@@Housebarons thank you so much for your reply. I bought the material last weekend and plan to dive into the project this weekend. This is very helpful info!
What brand/model did you install? Thanks
How did you know the dimensions for the framing? I did you follow manufacturers instructions? Or is it just know how from experience?
Hey Ladybugg,
We followed the manufacture directions. We knew the general opening size. But directions gave all the measurements so certain framing parts would not be too close to the firebox.
We also had it inspected by the building Dept. Fireplaces required a specific inspection.
Thx for watching!
@housebarons I noticed that you didn’t use cement board on the inside between the firebox and the frame. I’m assuming because it was inspected this is fine but I thought these had to have cement boards or steel framing? I have a clean burning ethanol firebox that I’m trying to figure out how to build a surround for.
Can you use an air intake nozzle on the gas line to help increase flame and color??
Hey Pat,
No idea. Maybe that’s a question for the manufacturer. I do know that the more yellow the flame, the less clean it is burning.
I’d be cautious as it vents indoors.
Thx for watching.
From what I have read and heard - 40k BTU is the limit for vent-free fire box.
For a larger flame, you will have to go with a vented fire box.
No
Where is the link for the fireplace the one you post is for the whole store give us the link for the fire place
Hey ricard…,
If you don’t see it then they may not have that model any longer. Ours was 42 inches or close to that. They used to have a few different widths.
Thx for watching!
How’d you get the gas line to that spot. In the house
Hey Gerald,
We did a full house reno - so we had a line added thru the basement ceiling.
Thanks for watching.
Maybe I missed it. What's the size of the insert? Thank you
Hey Lilyrosedaisy,
I’m having to do this from memory, but I believe it was 43 inch.
Hope that helps.
Thx for watching!
How do you access the shut-off valve?
Hey Xottle..,
We have a gas manifold in the basement with individual valves on it. The one at floor level was just for temporary use when testing.
Thx for watching!
Any thoughts on the rotten egg smell with vent less natural gas fireplace?
Hey Dynamic.....
Oooooh?????,
You don’t mean the natural gas smell.... as in a leak?!
There should be NO smell. If there is, I would NOT use it! Could be hazardous!
Get it checked out to be safe.
Thx for watching.
used ventless gas fireplace for years, never had a smell from combustion.
I can not be near those vent-less gas fireplaces , my head starts pounding within 2 mins
I read that they shouldn't be ran more than 2 hours at a time.
Hi Anthony, it is unfortunate that this ventless natural gas setup doesn't work for you, because it is a great addition to a house without a fireplace. Evidently it is not compatible with everyone. Thanks for your comment!
idk, i feel like this a bad take....Brickwork shouldn't be and most definitely isn't a challenge for horizontal termination. I also wouldn't agree that a flued heater "limits" your output and enjoyment. I don't fully understand how it's safe having combustion products contained in a closed room.
Hey Andrew,
All I can say is that they are legal. They are pretty clean burning as well. This is decorative in this case so it is not relied on to be the only heat source.
Thx for watching.
@@Housebarons yeah fair enough they are 'legal' in your area, but would you know agree my points a very valid and in some households quite a serious concern. You would need CO2 detectors in the immediate location one that could trigger some auto shut-off to the unit. Theres a lot of serious health concerns that should be noted prior to suggesting this is the best and safe option for everybody.
vent free anything should be a no no.
Hey tonymarony1,
There is definitely a debate on that topic. In the end, you get to make your own choice on that. Thx for watching!
I guess it didn't blow up
Hey B…,
Nope. Still here!
Thx for watching!
Geez, all that work and u skimped on the clear stones inside the fireplace...bummer
Talk a little more. I need to know everything that ever happened to you since the 3rd grade.
Thx for watching!
I have a square gas fireplace with tile around it. I would like to know if I can make it rectangular that way I have more space avobe for my TV and maybe add a beam or a small mantle? I will also take tile down and update it. House was built in 2005. Will this be too expensive to change opening shape of fireplace?
Hey Marco,
Since you can’t see the structure behind the tile and fireplace, it just a guess. You have to pull something away to look behind the walls and get a look at the structure.
If you are buying an rectangular fireplace insert, those can be expensive.
I would say do a little price research and a little exploring to uncover the structure. Hope your project goes well & thx for watching!
@@Housebarons thank u:)