Appreciate it! I do like this little thing. I have noticed it drains the piss out of the battery if I leave it in there though. Maybe I should send it to Sig. It's eaten like 3 already.
damn lucky to find your video before buying it. I want the ABU feature to help me finally get rid of my scope stickers (or tape). but not compensating the angle when ranging and to finally give me the clicks i need is a NO NO. i hunt in mountains and birds off the tree, i need the angle calculated to my clicks. what do you recommend since im not gonna buy the Sig? I mean something that can show the MOA clicks on device?
Nice video! Thanks for sharing! How about using it during the night? Is the reticle lit? Say I want to find a distance in the night. If I aim towards an objective, will I be able to see the measurement in the reticle? Does it show lit in red? Or is it impossible to use it without ambience light? Thanks!
The reticle is lit but it doesn't illuminate the target. If you can't see it with the naked eye, you can't see it through the viewfinder. Without night vision you wouldn't be able to range appropriately in the dark. Let me know and I'll do whatever test you'd like. I can take some images for you in low light but in darkness it would just be a red reticle on a black screen. -Walsh
Hello Could you please explain how I can change the distance from 800 to longer like you have done. I could work out hoe you got to the page to change the distance to 1000 m Thank you
Can this rangefinder work out the drop of the bullet etc for any calibre...I have a 223 with a bushnell scope..would or can I input my bullet weight load etc...thnx
Yes. You can actually input multiple calibers and it then you can select which caliber in the app and the MIL/MOA will depend on the round you selected. I only used my 6.5 as an example but you can input whichever bullet you like. Hope this helps! -Walsh
Thanks for watching! One more small thing....it keeps draining my battery. I go pull it out of the bag....dead. So I keep the batteries out now. I should probably call Sig.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Yeah, that can't be working as designed. Sportsman's warehouse has the 1800s on sale for $179. Still tempting at that price since I've got a $150 credit there.🤔
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Thanks. The 1000 yard limit isn't a deal breaker in my neck of the Southeast Alaskan woods and I'm here for a few more years at least so it'd serve me well for a while I think.😉
@@SEAKPhotog I keep forgetting that no everyone is just going got long range haha as a hunting rangefinder....this thing is awesome. Just click....get your holdover...done.
Of all the things I wish I had when hunting, a more stable range finder was never one of them. This just seems like Nikon is solving a problem that doesn't exist. I will add that I have not used one. I just know of two good elbows that do the same type of magic -Walsh
I have purchased a Sig bdx1800 thinking that it can read up to a 1000 Y. I would like to find out how to enter in the LOS mode my line of sight distance, the unit is rather difficult. Can you help and advise.
To enter LOS mode just use the app and select the options icon on the top right. It'll look like a gear. Then select LOS. And it'll read 1000y.....but just barely. It's definitely frustrating that it hits a limit near 1000
@@ThinLineDefenseCo I could get 1,000 yards... occasionally. I would say it can get 1,000 under PERFECT conditions. I've been able to range 1,000 yards only once. It can comfortably get 950 yards against trees.
It's only a limit of the bdx. I agree though. It can definitely range further in the other modes. It's just frustrating because the math is the same after 800.
Here is what I am searching for (been looking for at least an hour). How do you range something w the 1800 and have it send the hold over to the scope without the app? Ie: Shooting a target at 154 yrds and then move to a 339 target. I just want it to auto send the hold over. I cant find a place where this is explained :(
hmmm this is a great question.. I've not messed with the scope side. From a pure processing power side it would be possible as the calculation is done inside the range finder. How you connect them without the phone acting as that bridge, I'm not sure. I'd hit up Sig support let me know though and I'll share with others! -Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo I think my question is too vague. :) What I am asking for is how the simple operation of ranging a target and then having that distance show up in the scope. Do I have to press some kind of "send" button to tell the range finder to send the distance to the scope?
Okay im confused...I was about to go for the kilo 1600bdx. Is there more than 1 model of that? Also considering the new leupold rx1400. Does it have holdovers like bdx?
My information card doesn't say anything about the 1600 unfortunately. Just pay attention the the laser type when you're purchasing. And I did the rx2800 TBR/w. It's fine if you don't want to use any of the extra features. I found the ranging on the leupold to be based off some odd zero's. Which made them completely useless. ua-cam.com/video/CLUcxWGppag/v-deo.html -Walsh
@@TheMadShredder I think it'll say like 3A or 3R? Toss me the link to what you're looking at and I'll see if I spot it. There may be only one version. The fact that multiple versions exist is super weird.
oooof... doc that's a bit steep. I was looking at the vortex ranger 500. All the bdx and magic Doo Doo doesn't seem as useful as being able to plug your scope onto strelok pro. ever use that?
I'm not a person who wants to own multiple rangefinders. Would you recommend this for someone who wants a rangefinder to hunt archery and spot and stalk rifle? Currently looking at the 2800
Holy moly how did you find this video lol the ranger hd 4000 is loads better as it'll do reflective targets at 4000 and deer sized at 2200. It's a way better unit than the scams most of the range finders are Looking at you Leupold
@ThinLineDefenseCo just hunting around for information lol. What other shortcomings would there be with the sig 2800 vs the ranger 4000? I'm likely not shooting an animal more than 600 yards away.
wow, i was about to buy this. Their approach to the marketing and the BDX has turned that into a hard no. Didnt even realize there were 2 different laser versions of this, thanks for the heads up. Doesnt display which version in 99% of the listings for the item. Looks like the SOK18601 SKU is the 3R, maybe? SOK18602 is the 1M? Still not even positive. 601 was embedded on a OP listing for the 1M, but multiple ebay listings show 601 as being 3R. Vortex warranty worth it if only to give SIG the finger on this one. Even if it would fit the bill nicely for my precision AR and bow. Anyone know which SKU is which for sure?
I'd go off my SKU if you want the 3R. For hunting inside 600, this would be great. If you're doing PRS.....I've even considered the 2200 just to get over 1000. But the BDX still won't work...I've given up on that
@@ThinLineDefenseCo oh durrrr i didnt even see the SKU on there. Thanks Still a little hesitant on this one, even at the $270 i found it for. Seems like a solid unit, the things they did just annoy me, and prefer not to reward it. But im a prick like that. Thanks for the upload
@@crich1218 Glad we could help you know about all the features of this rangefinder. I'm still disappointed in how they limited key functions. It can be used for longer measurements with a ballistic calculator though. That's what I had to do.
So from bdx 100 to bdx 2200 will range the same distance? For price point 1000 series will suffice but 1400-2200 give you the red lite reticles? Thanks for the info good vid.
No, the 1800 will range about 100-150 yards more than the 1600. About 100 yards between models. But the bdx feature... seperate from ranging distance...maxes out at 800, regardless of model. Let me know if that helped or it was confusing lol -Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo understood, so what would be the difference between the 1800 and the 1800 3R? Which would you suggest, I won't be shooting that sweet 1k a yti.e soon but within 400-500yds for sure. Thank you for your time.
@@mrwolf1859 it's about 200 max yardage difference. It's pretty significant between the two laser models. The one I show in the video is the 3R and you can see the model number on the box. For 5-600 yards you could probably save some and go down a tier or so but the red reticle is just awesome for dawn/dusk.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo okay thank you, i only need to know the distance so i can dial my scope to the exact distance i want to shoot. I have an Fx Impact and a vortex scope so thats why i asked.
@@roypijnenburg9854 yea, just make sure to know if you want line of sight or the adjusted angular distance. I'd only use LOS if you were putting the distance and angle into a ballistic calculator
@@roypijnenburg9854there are different models based on the lasers, yes. But for the modes I mentioned, no. They're just different modes you can select between.
yea but I did Review the leupold 2800 and the Sig was TONs better. The leupold only went out to 600 for its ballastic calculator and it has some weirdo preset zeros. I really want to see the vortex ranger 4000! thanks for the comment and for watching -Walsh
I have the 2200bdx and it will not range anything past 1300. I've tried in all light conditions. Buildings, car , trees. Most of the time it won't range anything past about 650. I can only do deer out to 450. I would 100 percent not buy again. Save you're money people
Dang that's disappointing. I was considering upgrading to the 2200. Whelp...guess not. I was looking at the vortex ranger 4000 too. That seems crazy if it can actually perform at the level the specs say. After seeing a few range finders...I'm skeptic Thanks for watching! -Walsh
Do some more thinking about Why Sig Sauer does not want to sell a rangefinder with a BDX capability for greater than 800 yards. I think your comments are way off base and naive.
800 yards is way out of range for shooting any animal ! Try hunter ethics ! Anyone using this range finder for hunting will have good results as long as they use Hunter safety and Hunter ethics. ! Facts !
I'm about to buy this combo, your info on the rangefinders was very helpful...
Awsome review thanks.
Mighty fine review. Took into consideration different types of shooters or hunters or distance. Good stuff!
Appreciate it! I do like this little thing.
I have noticed it drains the piss out of the battery if I leave it in there though. Maybe I should send it to Sig. It's eaten like 3 already.
Great video and review
Thanks for the love. Walsh tried hard on this one!
damn lucky to find your video before buying it.
I want the ABU feature to help me finally get rid of my scope stickers (or tape).
but not compensating the angle when ranging and to finally give me the clicks i need is a NO NO.
i hunt in mountains and birds off the tree, i need the angle calculated to my clicks.
what do you recommend since im not gonna buy the Sig?
I mean something that can show the MOA clicks on device?
Nice video! Thanks for sharing!
How about using it during the night? Is the reticle lit? Say I want to find a distance in the night. If I aim towards an objective, will I be able to see the measurement in the reticle? Does it show lit in red? Or is it impossible to use it without ambience light?
Thanks!
The reticle is lit but it doesn't illuminate the target. If you can't see it with the naked eye, you can't see it through the viewfinder. Without night vision you wouldn't be able to range appropriately in the dark. Let me know and I'll do whatever test you'd like. I can take some images for you in low light but in darkness it would just be a red reticle on a black screen.
-Walsh
Good review
appreciate it! Hopefully I can get a few new 2021 models to try out soon!
Thanks for watching
-Walsh
Hello
Could you please explain how I can change the distance from 800 to longer like you have done. I could work out hoe you got to the page to change the distance to 1000 m
Thank you
Just change to the LOS mode or angle adjusted mode. The BDX mode only give you bullet calc to 800
Can this rangefinder work out the drop of the bullet etc for any calibre...I have a 223 with a bushnell scope..would or can I input my bullet weight load etc...thnx
Yes. You can actually input multiple calibers and it then you can select which caliber in the app and the MIL/MOA will depend on the round you selected.
I only used my 6.5 as an example but you can input whichever bullet you like. Hope this helps!
-Walsh
Terrific, fair review. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! One more small thing....it keeps draining my battery.
I go pull it out of the bag....dead. So I keep the batteries out now.
I should probably call Sig.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Yeah, that can't be working as designed. Sportsman's warehouse has the 1800s on sale for $179. Still tempting at that price since I've got a $150 credit there.🤔
@@SEAKPhotog ooooOoooOoo the red reticle is stupid nice. Just know it really reaches it's limit at 1000...which is disappointing.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Thanks. The 1000 yard limit isn't a deal breaker in my neck of the Southeast Alaskan woods and I'm here for a few more years at least so it'd serve me well for a while I think.😉
@@SEAKPhotog I keep forgetting that no everyone is just going got long range haha as a hunting rangefinder....this thing is awesome. Just click....get your holdover...done.
Is it only in moa or also in mrad? And is it in meters or also in yards?
Good job man. What else should I look at? Is Nikon image stabilized in a rangefinder worth it? or just a gimmick?
Of all the things I wish I had when hunting, a more stable range finder was never one of them. This just seems like Nikon is solving a problem that doesn't exist.
I will add that I have not used one. I just know of two good elbows that do the same type of magic
-Walsh
I have purchased a Sig bdx1800 thinking that it can read up to a 1000 Y. I would like to find out how to enter in the LOS mode my line of sight distance, the unit is rather difficult. Can you help and advise.
To enter LOS mode just use the app and select the options icon on the top right. It'll look like a gear. Then select LOS.
And it'll read 1000y.....but just barely. It's definitely frustrating that it hits a limit near 1000
@@ThinLineDefenseCo I could get 1,000 yards... occasionally. I would say it can get 1,000 under PERFECT conditions. I've been able to range 1,000 yards only once. It can comfortably get 950 yards against trees.
Thanks, the 800 yard limit is a hard no for me. Fix it Sig!
It's only a limit of the bdx. I agree though. It can definitely range further in the other modes. It's just frustrating because the math is the same after 800.
Here is what I am searching for (been looking for at least an hour). How do you range something w the 1800 and have it send the hold over to the scope without the app? Ie: Shooting a target at 154 yrds and then move to a 339 target. I just want it to auto send the hold over. I cant find a place where this is explained :(
hmmm this is a great question.. I've not messed with the scope side. From a pure processing power side it would be possible as the calculation is done inside the range finder.
How you connect them without the phone acting as that bridge, I'm not sure. I'd hit up Sig support
let me know though and I'll share with others!
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo I think my question is too vague. :) What I am asking for is how the simple operation of ranging a target and then having that distance show up in the scope. Do I have to press some kind of "send" button to tell the range finder to send the distance to the scope?
Okay im confused...I was about to go for the kilo 1600bdx. Is there more than 1 model of that? Also considering the new leupold rx1400. Does it have holdovers like bdx?
My information card doesn't say anything about the 1600 unfortunately. Just pay attention the the laser type when you're purchasing.
And I did the rx2800 TBR/w. It's fine if you don't want to use any of the extra features. I found the ranging on the leupold to be based off some odd zero's. Which made them completely useless.
ua-cam.com/video/CLUcxWGppag/v-deo.html
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo thanks! What am I looking for in the laser type?
@@TheMadShredder I think it'll say like 3A or 3R? Toss me the link to what you're looking at and I'll see if I spot it.
There may be only one version. The fact that multiple versions exist is super weird.
New Sig KILO 5K BDX just came out. It is $750.
oooof... doc that's a bit steep. I was looking at the vortex ranger 500. All the bdx and magic Doo Doo doesn't seem as useful as being able to plug your scope onto strelok pro.
ever use that?
I'm not a person who wants to own multiple rangefinders. Would you recommend this for someone who wants a rangefinder to hunt archery and spot and stalk rifle? Currently looking at the 2800
Holy moly how did you find this video lol the ranger hd 4000 is loads better as it'll do reflective targets at 4000 and deer sized at 2200.
It's a way better unit than the scams most of the range finders are Looking at you Leupold
@ThinLineDefenseCo just hunting around for information lol. What other shortcomings would there be with the sig 2800 vs the ranger 4000? I'm likely not shooting an animal more than 600 yards away.
wow, i was about to buy this. Their approach to the marketing and the BDX has turned that into a hard no. Didnt even realize there were 2 different laser versions of this, thanks for the heads up. Doesnt display which version in 99% of the listings for the item. Looks like the SOK18601 SKU is the 3R, maybe? SOK18602 is the 1M? Still not even positive. 601 was embedded on a OP listing for the 1M, but multiple ebay listings show 601 as being 3R.
Vortex warranty worth it if only to give SIG the finger on this one. Even if it would fit the bill nicely for my precision AR and bow.
Anyone know which SKU is which for sure?
I'd go off my SKU if you want the 3R. For hunting inside 600, this would be great. If you're doing PRS.....I've even considered the 2200 just to get over 1000. But the BDX still won't work...I've given up on that
@@ThinLineDefenseCo oh durrrr i didnt even see the SKU on there. Thanks
Still a little hesitant on this one, even at the $270 i found it for. Seems like a solid unit, the things they did just annoy me, and prefer not to reward it. But im a prick like that.
Thanks for the upload
@@SCQT haha same. I was gritting my teeth on some parts of the review. To be that expensive and purposely gutted is super frustrating.
Yeah this all seems pretty shady on sigs part. I was considering buying one of these until this video.
@@crich1218 Glad we could help you know about all the features of this rangefinder. I'm still disappointed in how they limited key functions. It can be used for longer measurements with a ballistic calculator though.
That's what I had to do.
So from bdx 100 to bdx 2200 will range the same distance? For price point 1000 series will suffice but 1400-2200 give you the red lite reticles? Thanks for the info good vid.
No, the 1800 will range about 100-150 yards more than the 1600. About 100 yards between models.
But the bdx feature... seperate from ranging distance...maxes out at 800, regardless of model.
Let me know if that helped or it was confusing lol
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo understood, so what would be the difference between the 1800 and the 1800 3R? Which would you suggest, I won't be shooting that sweet 1k a yti.e soon but within 400-500yds for sure. Thank you for your time.
@@mrwolf1859 it's about 200 max yardage difference. It's pretty significant between the two laser models. The one I show in the video is the 3R and you can see the model number on the box.
For 5-600 yards you could probably save some and go down a tier or so but the red reticle is just awesome for dawn/dusk.
Did it come with a printed user manual or just the card?
I'm trying to remember if it was printed or if I had to download it. I don't remember tbh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo I don't think mine came with a printed manual. Kind of wish it did. Thanks for the good review!
Is it only in moa or also mrad?
You can swap between them. I use the app to do it but I know you can use the device also
Can you use the range finder without the app or the sierra scope?
Yes you can. It's a little harder to initial setup but once I have mine dialed in I don't reconnect to the app each time.
Hope that helps!
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo okay thank you, i only need to know the distance so i can dial my scope to the exact distance i want to shoot. I have an Fx Impact and a vortex scope so thats why i asked.
@@roypijnenburg9854 yea, just make sure to know if you want line of sight or the adjusted angular distance. I'd only use LOS if you were putting the distance and angle into a ballistic calculator
@@ThinLineDefenseCo are that two different models of the 1800bdx ?
@@roypijnenburg9854there are different models based on the lasers, yes. But for the modes I mentioned, no. They're just different modes you can select between.
Good review... makes me annoyed with Sig though
yea but I did Review the leupold 2800 and the Sig was TONs better. The leupold only went out to 600 for its ballastic calculator and it has some weirdo preset zeros.
I really want to see the vortex ranger 4000!
thanks for the comment and for watching
-Walsh
I have the 2200bdx and it will not range anything past 1300. I've tried in all light conditions. Buildings, car , trees. Most of the time it won't range anything past about 650. I can only do deer out to 450. I would 100 percent not buy again. Save you're money people
Dang that's disappointing. I was considering upgrading to the 2200. Whelp...guess not. I was looking at the vortex ranger 4000 too. That seems crazy if it can actually perform at the level the specs say.
After seeing a few range finders...I'm skeptic
Thanks for watching!
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo that's the route I'm going after hunting season 👍
same here same storey
Do some more thinking about Why Sig Sauer does not want to sell a rangefinder with a BDX capability for greater than 800 yards. I think your comments are way off base and naive.
Thanks for the comment. We got a Leupold 2800 TBRW up on deck next!
-Walsh
800 yards is way out of range for shooting any animal ! Try hunter ethics ! Anyone using this range finder for hunting will have good results as long as they use Hunter safety and Hunter ethics. ! Facts !
Concur. That's exactly what I said.....
!facts