I had the same experience on the deck last year lol. I got an ally last February though and man... The steamdeck community can suck it. So much easier to play my library w better fps
I bought mine and used it twice in the last 6 months. granted my PC is a 14900k with a 4090, which is why i don't feel the need to use a handheld. handhelds seem to be more attractive to those that don't have a powerful PC.
@@escape808 but you're stuck at home with your powerful pc same with console. ally is for those who have limited playing time and enjoys gaming on the go playing while commuting to work, during break time at work or during long flights. it's basically a windows device so it's like having a mini portable pc too, powerful enough to do some productivity work.
@@juiciness not the overlay was the problem,the problem was other settings that i have to change, now works better,but I'm still thinking that in horizon fw.Is not worthy of using afmf.
AFMF was causing studder for me on my Ally until I set up HYPR-X/Settings for each game individually. After that, frames were up and steady for the most part, especially for Helldivers 2, but I've also done some changes at the windows level.
@@jaysonroxas01 35-40 usually, I use medium as my base, and put things like fog, light and etc on low, keeping settings like detail and Terrance on med. render distance on high
Just to note... when you turn quickly or produce any amount of substantial movement, FPS will drop by 100% back down to baseline (like in the Witcher shown here at which the 85FPS drops immediately down to 41FPS as soon as Whitson turns the camera), which is IMO where these additional frames are most needed, not when nothing is happening on the screen. This gives you a false impression of smooth performance. As soon as the game picks up, performance staggers below what would be achievable without AFMF. Again, IMO, removing the real benefit of AFMF entirely. You are better off keeping AFMF off, lowering the resolution, and gaming normally. FPS will stay far more consistent this way.
@@Guenner8685I think u would be surprised. Tried it on an old bike racing game from 2016 worked but choppy. Tried on helldivers 2 showed only 10 fps better than 45fps originally. But feels 60+pfs. Not choppy. Cyberpunk doesn't work choppy. Surprised me atleast. Helldivers 2 runs so good it's worth it. I'm sure some other games if u try u might get lucky.
It sounds like a lot of people are having a bad experience with AFMF but I used it and it worked fine for me. Most games I tried got an increase, but games that are very fast paced or the art style is too realistic it doesn't work as well. But also if you don't have your setting correct it will also be a bad experience. It won't work well with every game but it does make the experience with a lot of games much better. Also if the game has FSR 3 frame gen just use that it will be a lot better. But if it doesn't that's where AFMF will be beneficial.
Its useless because as soon as there is any action happening on screen or you rotate the camera it goes back down to its base FPS. Meaning the FPS just jumps up and down constantly. Whats even is the point if you have to stay still and do virtually nothing for that extra fps to work? It just makes the game feel less smooth to play as a result
@@XxPetexXx It works well on my PC and it depends on the game. it works well in Jedi survivor on my PC I can run it at 4k Epic with Epic ray tracing at 120 fps with very minor drops. It's on my channel. Couldn't run it like that before on my 6800 so useless I think not. check it out if you want. there's a few on there. And the game feels loads better. have you even tried it on a decent setup?
@@XxPetexXx well my comment got deleted but it works well on jedi survivor on my PC 4k epic at 120 fps with epic RT it's on my channel. You don't even notice the little drops. just feels like 120 fps to me.But you need the right hardware I guess. I have loads of vids showing it working well. there's 3 jedi survivor ones and I think a starfield one somewhere. workks awesome mate and feels like high refresh rate experience. on my 120 hertz 4k TV. You need the right display as well mate.
Can we use the AMD drivers VSYNC ? I tested this with Red Dead 2 and turned on vsync at driver level and seemed to make it smoother in conjunction with fluid frames
@@adambrant94 upgrade what my gpu? I had a 3080 when i built mines back in 2020, and finally got my hands on a 4090. But i would love to build an amd only build
This is why I love this company they just care about there hardware for more then just profit they give gamers what they need I love mine and a big thank you to all the team I appreciate your hard work
Frame generation is nice when the frame is still and predictible, as soon as the scene is unpredictible the the frame timing will drop creating micro stutter at times. If the base FPS is high enough it will make the easy parts smooth and the busy stuff creates micro stutters that isn't as noticeable. Its functional use is limited.
You shouldn't use fmf on games that drop below a smooth fps. If your game runs at 45-60fps natively, you'll not notice any stutters when fmf drops from 90fps to 60fps, or 75 to 45fps.
Turn off real time monitor in armory crate and it comes on. A simple AMD FPS one will show up. Its red "because" you are using the real time monitor from armory crate. Also I think its limited to Directx 11 and above.
So I use the ROG overlay mostly for the battery life. Will the overlay cause AFMF to not work? Or will it just not show the frame rate correctly? - I ask because the AMD overlay doesn’t have battery life percentage.
I actually used the f s r 3.1 And it works fantastic and you guys are wrong on that. Yes, you can still turn it on and it works awesome. I'm using it on my Ace, ally rogue, and it's fire. Tell you it works awesome when you put it in the software and you do a custom profile. It works awesome.
Sony is working on it. It will come along with PSSR at a later date, most likely it will be like FSR3, where it will be baked into the game but you'll have to wait for games to be updated to support it
4:30 only with DirectX 11 or above. Old games won't work. From my testing games like Fortnite works (but looks bad personally) while games like Payday2 don't even allow it
AFMF didn't help boost FPS; instead, it made everything worse. 😥 I tried it with Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection, Alan Wake 2, and Mafia 3. The FPS didn't increase; instead, the gameplay looked very stuttery.
Works like ass for me in Cyberpunk. The FPS jumps allover the place. Seems kinda pointless. Why would I want FPS that jumps between 38-97 over 38-50? It just feels more choppy
I tried it with ark survival ascended on my rog ally and it basically crashed the game gets stuck at 3 fps when fluid motion is on also the game is installed through pc game pass it doesn’t work with this particular game at all 😔
If you want an fps boost don't solder the ram on. If the z1 is based off zen 4 where DDR5-6000 is the supposed sweet spot. Why lock in at 16gb? Just curious.
My question is, when are they gonna finally deploy it into armory? Creek, and the second thing is, you guys need to work closer with windows. Update a lot of us have been doing some crazy stuff just to get the games running correctly. Please address first. Most important is windows update, so will not mess up our systems. We are grateful that you guys finally fixed it. But make sure that you guys can make.A restore point.So just in case you guys make an update.And it does not work correctly that we don't have to agree until it's perfected
AFMF is a damn big joke , did ASUS people ever tested it before publishing the driver update ? I have tried on 10 games , Cyberpunk , DD2 , Horizon 5 , witcher 3 , SF6 , dead island 2 , 7days to die , RDR2 , BeamNG , Hunt showdown , AFMF is not working and useless DD2 still FPS 20 can't play , Cyberpunk 2077 even drop like 10FPS
Work great for me too. You have to turn off all the overlays first. I would also set your resolution to 720p so you can get a better test. Go to Armory Crate and turn off real time monitoring that is the key.
no , I only use ally overlay , and it doesn't matter about overlay , it's about this shit doesn't have any real benefit for playing and bug you everywhere. TBH I don't you guys do really have ally or just BOTing message , because from reddit I found lots of same people like me , AFMF is shit on Z1 extreme
Doesn't work correctly it turns on and off when you move the camera any more than a slow pan and you get stuttering it's atrocious. No clear indication it's working outside of and adrenaline overlay which is bugged out. Very underwhelming I've tried it on a dozen games sucked Everytime 🤷
That “you’ve got streaming compression” was horseshit 😂😂 interesting how it didn’t happen before afmf was turned on…. It stutters guys a lot sometimes even right and that’s the bottom line. Some people works great others not so much rn. I’m sure it will improve in time
"Don't look at the video you're seeing, look at the numbers" Perfect example of why everyone falls for this frame generation nonsense. Higher number in the corner but everything else feels worse than running games in the usual fashion, pure snake oil.
Don't look at the picture, look at the numbers and it's clearly better, because our overlay says so. 🤦🏻♂️ In the gameplay i see no difference, only the number that says i see more frames and I honestly don't. 🤷🏻♂️ It's just a mind trick i guess and an advertising to sell more devices. I got my device as a gift so, you're not getting my money
Oh, you're happy to JUST NOW GET AFMF? When it's been available on desktop for how long? This is how AMD treats APU support. You're a second class citizen. Late updates then early EOL. This is why steam deck is superior, because you're not dependent on AMD or Asus China spyware backdoor for software updates. Plus the whole button layout is outdated xbox controller with no trackpad or hall effect joysticks, and terrible battery life. The superior handhelds are steam deck and AYN Odin2. But getting a software update for this thing is better than nothing, and the speakers are better than the Lenovo. The Manjaro handheld makes more sense as a deck alternative, but if you absolutely must use Windows 11 for a handheld it's not the worst? Yay? Good job?
Thanks for continuing the support for the ally keep them coming this is incredible
Ally is awesome. I finished more games on the ally than my pc.
I had the same experience on the deck last year lol. I got an ally last February though and man... The steamdeck community can suck it. So much easier to play my library w better fps
I bought mine and used it twice in the last 6 months. granted my PC is a 14900k with a 4090, which is why i don't feel the need to use a handheld. handhelds seem to be more attractive to those that don't have a powerful PC.
@@escape808My Pc is decent 3080, ryzen 9 5900x. Ally is nice to have when I don't have access to my pc.
@@escape808 but you're stuck at home with your powerful pc same with console. ally is for those who have limited playing time and enjoys gaming on the go playing while commuting to work, during break time at work or during long flights. it's basically a windows device so it's like having a mini portable pc too, powerful enough to do some productivity work.
I tried yesterday with horizon fw. and almost double it the frames in the overlay counter, but the game was looking worse and choppy
Yeah it’s not worth the trade off. I guess it’s cool for some but I’ll keep it off for now.
turn off the overlay!
@@juiciness not the overlay was the problem,the problem was other settings that i have to change, now works better,but I'm still thinking that in horizon fw.Is not worthy of using afmf.
You can try 120hz
I tested it on some games...some work...some didn't. Horizon FW was a stuttering mess with fluid frames on.
AFMF was causing studder for me on my Ally until I set up HYPR-X/Settings for each game individually. After that, frames were up and steady for the most part, especially for Helldivers 2, but I've also done some changes at the windows level.
What resolution do you play in?
@@Anomalyy666 I have a Z1, so 720@15w, 35-45fps, 900 (35-40)or 1080 (35)when on 30w. Medium mix and balance or quality rendering
Hi! I only getting straight 20fps on helldivers.. how about you?
@@jaysonroxas01 35-40 usually, I use medium as my base, and put things like fog, light and etc on low, keeping settings like detail and Terrance on med. render distance on high
Hd2 I was getting 45 fps, now getting 55 but feels 60 to even 70 fps. What about u without then with?
Just fantastic. It's amazing how much Ally's performance has improved.
Just to note... when you turn quickly or produce any amount of substantial movement, FPS will drop by 100% back down to baseline (like in the Witcher shown here at which the 85FPS drops immediately down to 41FPS as soon as Whitson turns the camera), which is IMO where these additional frames are most needed, not when nothing is happening on the screen. This gives you a false impression of smooth performance. As soon as the game picks up, performance staggers below what would be achievable without AFMF. Again, IMO, removing the real benefit of AFMF entirely. You are better off keeping AFMF off, lowering the resolution, and gaming normally. FPS will stay far more consistent this way.
Yeah and it also increases lag. That's why it's not for fast paced games.
@@Guenner8685I think u would be surprised. Tried it on an old bike racing game from 2016 worked but choppy. Tried on helldivers 2 showed only 10 fps better than 45fps originally. But feels 60+pfs. Not choppy. Cyberpunk doesn't work choppy. Surprised me atleast. Helldivers 2 runs so good it's worth it. I'm sure some other games if u try u might get lucky.
@@misterpacha1 I tried frame generation in Warzone, the lag was noticable, turned it off after 2 minutes.
@@Guenner8685you play warzone.... Thats your problem right there lol. Just kidding bro 😂
@@eon4831 😂inknow, inwould like to play something else. But it's the only game my friends want to play, that is also cross Plattform🤷🏻
Stuttered with frame pacing issues with afmf on ?…
When I click on the guide linked in the description it asks me to sign in and if I cancel then it gives me a 404 error.
Is AMFM now working with the Ally's real time monitor?
Yea AFMF 2
It sounds like a lot of people are having a bad experience with AFMF but I used it and it worked fine for me. Most games I tried got an increase, but games that are very fast paced or the art style is too realistic it doesn't work as well. But also if you don't have your setting correct it will also be a bad experience. It won't work well with every game but it does make the experience with a lot of games much better. Also if the game has FSR 3 frame gen just use that it will be a lot better. But if it doesn't that's where AFMF will be beneficial.
Its useless because as soon as there is any action happening on screen or you rotate the camera it goes back down to its base FPS. Meaning the FPS just jumps up and down constantly. Whats even is the point if you have to stay still and do virtually nothing for that extra fps to work?
It just makes the game feel less smooth to play as a result
On paper it sounds awesome, but in practice most gamers probably would prefer not to use it.
@@XxPetexXx It works well on my PC and it depends on the game. it works well in Jedi survivor on my PC I can run it at 4k Epic with Epic ray tracing at 120 fps with very minor drops. It's on my channel. Couldn't run it like that before on my 6800 so useless I think not. check it out if you want. there's a few on there. And the game feels loads better. have you even tried it on a decent setup?
@@XxPetexXx well my comment got deleted but it works well on jedi survivor on my PC 4k epic at 120 fps with epic RT it's on my channel. You don't even notice the little drops. just feels like 120 fps to me.But you need the right hardware I guess. I have loads of vids showing it working well. there's 3 jedi survivor ones and I think a starfield one somewhere. workks awesome mate and feels like high refresh rate experience. on my 120 hertz 4k TV. You need the right display as well mate.
did you really play ?? or just another BOT replyer , the truth is this update doesn't work at allll!!!
10:30 Is this Now Fixed? And can we Now Activate over the Asus Rog Ally Overlay?
Can we use the AMD drivers VSYNC ?
I tested this with Red Dead 2 and turned on vsync at driver level and seemed to make it smoother in conjunction with fluid frames
Can you send me your setting it’s stuttring for me on rd2 1080p
Will Asus Rog flow X 13 get cover bag and pen for 2024 model
Considering how recent afmf is, This is actually quite impressive, and it makes me feel good about snatching a 7900xtx
What did you upgrade from?
@@adambrant94 upgrade what my gpu? I had a 3080 when i built mines back in 2020, and finally got my hands on a 4090. But i would love to build an amd only build
This is why I love this company they just care about there hardware for more then just profit they give gamers what they need I love mine and a big thank you to all the team I appreciate your hard work
it is like a magic. really love Ally
Frame generation is nice when the frame is still and predictible, as soon as the scene is unpredictible the the frame timing will drop creating micro stutter at times. If the base FPS is high enough it will make the easy parts smooth and the busy stuff creates micro stutters that isn't as noticeable. Its functional use is limited.
You shouldn't use fmf on games that drop below a smooth fps.
If your game runs at 45-60fps natively, you'll not notice any stutters when fmf drops from 90fps to 60fps, or 75 to 45fps.
@@kewlztertc5386 Makes sense, I want the effect to be opposite. I want higher Min FPS and lower peak FPS.
@jasondelarosa5457 but your Prius only has a 3 cylinder engine.
FmF is a downhill run, but eventually you've got to climb a hill.
@@kewlztertc5386 I like your analogy.
I got the updates but I cant seem to get it to work. In the real time monitor it says AFMF in red with an exclamation point?
U cannot
use overlays except for AMD Overlay with framegen
Turn off real time monitor in armory crate and it comes on. A simple AMD FPS one will show up. Its red "because" you are using the real time monitor from armory crate. Also I think its limited to Directx 11 and above.
What does it do for the battery life?
Where do we put in the stream code from watching?
When will it appear Rog ally 2.
Should be day 1 on the Ally 2
I did everything on the Video but it still says Inactive when I start TW3 :( help?
So I use the ROG overlay mostly for the battery life. Will the overlay cause AFMF to not work? Or will it just not show the frame rate correctly? - I ask because the AMD overlay doesn’t have battery life percentage.
When will Warzone be Fixed? I can’t play Warzone on my Rog Ally, cause the files can’t be validated or something.
Mine is not working. it's actually worse now..
Make sure your system is not running at 10watts.. this happened to me when I tried this..
@@aoronqui1 I was at 25 watts.
Hallo I just did install new AMD software and ter is one problem there is no overlay in menu only Tracking ???? Someone knows the problem
Why it doesnt work for me
Everyone talking about AFMF. My AMD Adrenaline cant even see theres an upcoming update. Is this update not avaliable in Germany yet??
I actually used the f s r 3.1 And it works fantastic and you guys are wrong on that. Yes, you can still turn it on and it works awesome. I'm using it on my Ace, ally rogue, and it's fire. Tell you it works awesome when you put it in the software and you do a custom profile. It works awesome.
Runs on RDNA 2 . will it come to the PS5 and Xbox Series?
Sony is working on it. It will come along with PSSR at a later date, most likely it will be like FSR3, where it will be baked into the game but you'll have to wait for games to be updated to support it
the obvious problem with frame gen which is super noticeable is input lag. press a button and have a noticeable delay
Idk when I turn it on the amd fmf for Witcher 3 it just crashes constantly does anyone know how to fix this?
does this work with all games?
4:30 only with DirectX 11 or above. Old games won't work. From my testing games like Fortnite works (but looks bad personally) while games like Payday2 don't even allow it
@@Altaxula what are games that uses anything other than DX11?
Just set this up with FF7 Remake high settings, 1080, 120 fps, it sits between 80-100 fps. This is great! Thanks!
U have to use thier frame rate overlay.. placebo affect it sounds like
Does this work on 6800u CPUs?
I've tested it in gta v and really don't see any difference having it on or off... Is there a compatibility problem or something?
Do afmf work with horizon west ? Bc the frame rate is so bad in that game
AFMF didn't help boost FPS; instead, it made everything worse. 😥
I tried it with Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection, Alan Wake 2, and Mafia 3. The FPS didn't increase; instead, the gameplay looked very stuttery.
Explore and learn. Fmf works great on Uncharted.
Now it's up to you to figure out the how's and why's.
Works like ass for me in Cyberpunk. The FPS jumps allover the place. Seems kinda pointless. Why would I want FPS that jumps between 38-97 over 38-50?
It just feels more choppy
Mine don't work
I tried it with ark survival ascended on my rog ally and it basically crashed the game gets stuck at 3 fps when fluid motion is on also the game is installed through pc game pass it doesn’t work with this particular game at all 😔
Does anyone know which I can’t get zombies mw3 to work without packet burse I’ve tried a lot of different things but nothing fixes it
When ROG tablet?
I tried to get it to work on multiple games and didnt get anywhere. Couple hours wasted
What is the Problem ? Vsync off in Game full screen in, overlays off and it should work
@@kewa_design yeah, did everything it asked me to. Even in tomb raider where you get a seperate option for exclusive mode.
If you want an fps boost don't solder the ram on. If the z1 is based off zen 4 where DDR5-6000 is the supposed sweet spot. Why lock in at 16gb? Just curious.
It won't even let me download it it's giving me a error 182
Delete the amd folder on C first
Asus has to improve AFMF a lot! It’s strange to see normal persons (not professionals) doing a better work just like Lossless scaling
When is it gonna be deployed into army?Great.All those functions I said are going it on that way
wil this fix or make dragons dogma 2 more playable tho lol
this is cool i tried on grid getting way better performance
When will Rog Ally 2 release
Please release afmf2 quickly guys
bro, just buy Lossless Scaling, it doesn't turn off when moving camera
24.3.1 or 24.4.1 works better IMO
How do I get 24.4.1?
My question is, when are they gonna finally deploy it into armory? Creek, and the second thing is, you guys need to work closer with windows. Update a lot of us have been doing some crazy stuff just to get the games running correctly. Please address first. Most important is windows update, so will not mess up our systems. We are grateful that you guys finally fixed it. But make sure that you guys can make.A restore point.So just in case you guys make an update.And it does not work correctly that we don't have to agree until it's perfected
Windows should creator a restore Point automatically except you turned backups off
Oh my god I had to make a second comment for them doing the, “maaaan of course when we get to the good stuff the internet lags…. OoooOh brother”
AFMF is a damn big joke , did ASUS people ever tested it before publishing the driver update ?
I have tried on 10 games , Cyberpunk , DD2 , Horizon 5 , witcher 3 , SF6 , dead island 2 , 7days to die , RDR2 , BeamNG , Hunt showdown , AFMF is not working and useless
DD2 still FPS 20 can't play , Cyberpunk 2077 even drop like 10FPS
It’s working in every game I’ve tried so far are you playing in full screen mode with no other 3rd party overlays?
Works flawless for me in all the Games you mentioned and more😅 clearly a user fault here
@@kewa_designyeah it’s a game changer for the Ally
Work great for me too. You have to turn off all the overlays first. I would also set your resolution to 720p so you can get a better test. Go to Armory Crate and turn off real time monitoring that is the key.
no , I only use ally overlay , and it doesn't matter about overlay , it's about this shit doesn't have any real benefit for playing and bug you everywhere.
TBH I don't you guys do really have ally or just BOTing message , because from reddit I found lots of same people like me , AFMF is shit on Z1 extreme
Boasting fallout 4 with a slight bit of tearing but not very consistent, can't wait for more updates to it.
I’m sure it was this update that made fallout 3 and NV crash on startup on me.
im glad i went for the ally instead of the legion go
That’s strange considering the Legion Go will also have it
How are you getting 62C on your gpu at 99% and not 80 like me 🥴
Everyone talks about this but it looks stuttery to me. It's never looked smooth on any of the videos that demo it
This is so amazing it's why I think the Ally is better than the steam duck!
I helps especially when combined xg mobile Ican Game at 4k mid settings at 50-60 fps high end Games
Nice ❤
Doesn't work correctly it turns on and off when you move the camera any more than a slow pan and you get stuttering it's atrocious. No clear indication it's working outside of and adrenaline overlay which is bugged out. Very underwhelming I've tried it on a dozen games sucked Everytime 🤷
No framegen will ever Work with overlays
Steam deck oled FTW
Sold my deck for my ally no regrets lol.
@@eon4831 how dare youuuu
after this update my rog hasn't been able to run a game since. fucking pissed.
Fix the sd card being fried first damn assess! Jesus Christ!
That “you’ve got streaming compression” was horseshit 😂😂 interesting how it didn’t happen before afmf was turned on…. It stutters guys a lot sometimes even right and that’s the bottom line. Some people works great others not so much rn. I’m sure it will improve in time
Ryzen 5 8640 U APU 16 GB RAM 1280x800 pixel Amoled 6.5 inch screen 512 GB SSD make rog ally make it cheap and leave it at that
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So much negative comments I'm not doing a thing to mine 😂
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Input lag all over the place 😂
"Don't look at the video you're seeing, look at the numbers" Perfect example of why everyone falls for this frame generation nonsense.
Higher number in the corner but everything else feels worse than running games in the usual fashion, pure snake oil.
afmf is fake fps? how about 30 afmf to 60?
A gdyby tak Asus Rog zaprojektowal konsole ktora zdmuchnie ps5 i xboxX swoimi osiagami jestem pierwszy do kupna🎉😅
Don't look at the picture, look at the numbers and it's clearly better, because our overlay says so. 🤦🏻♂️
In the gameplay i see no difference, only the number that says i see more frames and I honestly don't. 🤷🏻♂️
It's just a mind trick i guess and an advertising to sell more devices.
I got my device as a gift so, you're not getting my money
Lol
This seems like a gimmick
This feature is complete Rubish. Doesn't work with Armoured Crate Overlay stop lying.
,afmf did nothing
Oh, you're happy to JUST NOW GET AFMF? When it's been available on desktop for how long? This is how AMD treats APU support. You're a second class citizen. Late updates then early EOL. This is why steam deck is superior, because you're not dependent on AMD or Asus China spyware backdoor for software updates. Plus the whole button layout is outdated xbox controller with no trackpad or hall effect joysticks, and terrible battery life. The superior handhelds are steam deck and AYN Odin2. But getting a software update for this thing is better than nothing, and the speakers are better than the Lenovo. The Manjaro handheld makes more sense as a deck alternative, but if you absolutely must use Windows 11 for a handheld it's not the worst? Yay? Good job?
Ryzen 5 8640 U APU 16 GB RAM 1280x800 pixel Amoled 6.5 inch screen 512 GB SSD make rog ally make it cheap and leave it at that
Ryzen 5 8640 U APU 16 GB RAM 1280x800 pixel Amoled 6.5 inch screen 512 GB SSD make rog ally make it cheap and leave it at that