The Art of capturing MASSIVE Drum Recordings (Full course)- Warren Huart: Produce Like A Pro

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  • @Producelikeapro
    @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +5

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    • @kahlilsmith5243
      @kahlilsmith5243 5 місяців тому +1

      Awesome vid! but where are the downloadable samples?

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +2

      Coming soon@@kahlilsmith5243

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +1

      Yes!@@kahlilsmith5243 Here are the drum samples:- producelikeapro.lpages.co/mike-arango-drum-samples/

    • @zorroinhell5549
      @zorroinhell5549 2 місяці тому

      Well Warren, what can I say but thanks for this video. Im going to watch it several times and take notes. This is a brilliant step by step for anyone wanting to understand all the nuances of recording drums for any genre.

  • @fredtimothy940
    @fredtimothy940 5 місяців тому +4

    I continue to be impressed that you include the secrets others leave out- such as the ‘other room’ mic. I saw the mic in the wooden box there and thought ‘they’ve done it again!’ Good stuff

  • @NeckBraceRecordings
    @NeckBraceRecordings 5 місяців тому +3

    This is such a good video, so in depth and informative without ever stepping in to 'information overload'. Really interesting seeing the discussion and examples of different snare muffling techniques.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +1

      We love Mike! He's an amazing engineer and a great guy!

  • @billyhughes9776
    @billyhughes9776 5 місяців тому +3

    This one's cued up for tomorrow morning. Looking forward to it!

  • @adrianwagner336
    @adrianwagner336 5 місяців тому +1

    VIVA for the win
    thanks to all!! it was fun to sit in for all the 'sperimenting with the drum tricks

  • @eddieruxspin
    @eddieruxspin 5 місяців тому +2

    Yessss more Mike Arango videos 🔊🔊

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks ever so much Eddie! We love Mike!

  • @Joey-rp5vg
    @Joey-rp5vg 5 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic. Well done guys that really informative. Down to the brass tacks. Thanks very much and a big thanks to the PLAP team

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +2

      Thanks ever so much Joey! I really appreciate it!

  • @eweesplace
    @eweesplace 3 місяці тому

    So many great snare "sounds" with the various dampening!

  • @MikeMastropierro
    @MikeMastropierro 5 місяців тому +1

    Mike! He’s my sales rep! He’s the coolest!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +2

      Yes!! He’s pretty darn awesome isn’t he?

  • @doug.heartstringssound
    @doug.heartstringssound 5 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for this great video Warren and for making it Mike! You guys Rock!

  • @Producelikeapro
    @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +1

    Please download the drum samples here:- producelikeapro.lpages.co/mike-arango-drum-samples/

  • @LetsTalkAboutReaper
    @LetsTalkAboutReaper 5 місяців тому +2

    I LOVE the new "Drops" muffling system from Tandem Drums. Different weight options , no adhesive, and they just slip on a lug of whatever kit piece you want.
    It bounces with the head so it acts as a gated muffler and is fantastic!

  • @PurpleMusicProductions
    @PurpleMusicProductions 5 місяців тому +1

    Very interesting video. It confirms the concept that drums are the hardest instrument to mic properly and it is best to capture the sound at the source versus the fix it in the mix mindset. With my experience in the academy which I have witnessed in this video the room mics and overheads are CRITICAL in capturing the drums as they appear to be the foundation of the entire sound so attention to detail is paramount.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for watching! I really appreciate your commentary!

  • @antcall6779
    @antcall6779 5 місяців тому +1

    Great as always warren 🤘

  • @TomCawoski
    @TomCawoski 5 місяців тому +2

    It never ceases to amaze me with all the various ideas of what people consider "A good drum sound." I appreciate seeing someone else's approach to recording drums but this hardly would be considered "massive" drums as stated in the title of this video!!! No wonder people (engineers) complain about drummers smashing the schnizzle crap out of their cymbals when you have drummers putting all that weighted dampening on the drums. I'd really like you Warren to do a video of Simon Phillips who you say you know do a video on how he records and mixes his drums. He's an excellent drummer as well as an excellent engineer!!! Incidentally, Simon doesn't use any dampening on his drums and has one of the best drum sounds in the industry along with people like Dave Weckl and Todd Sucherman of Styx.

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 Місяць тому

      Yeah, I though "massive" was gonna be Bonham in a stair well

  • @hipmetalworx
    @hipmetalworx 5 місяців тому +3

    Question.....why don't folks use PZM for room/ambient/overheads...?? They capture the room/space as if you were in the room, amazing soundstage / imaging....a sonic foundation to build upon....cheers from Vancouver Island..!

  • @ronnymilianowicz5228
    @ronnymilianowicz5228 5 місяців тому +4

    @Warren
    I saw you had a black Engl Artist Edition.
    What do you use it for? I LOVE that amp but split the fx loop out to a Mesa Rectifier and JCM 2000 poweramp.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +3

      That’s very cool! I haven’t tried that! I love ENGL Amps!

  • @Erix77
    @Erix77 5 місяців тому +1

    Great stuff! Thanx!

  • @lapiezaestudio
    @lapiezaestudio 5 місяців тому +1

    it is nice to have a lot of room options. For me, a sm57 in the back of a wall is all i need.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +2

      I do love a sm57 against the wall! I used a pair against the wall very often indeed!

  • @billyhughes9776
    @billyhughes9776 5 місяців тому +1

    Excellent stuff -- that API board,....wow, love it. Anyway -- the discussions on options to dampening the snare very cool -- I have the brass snare weight and leathers that work really well for certain things. Moon gels always gotta have -- I'll have to get some of the donut stuff. Mic'ing the shell I've found is useful if you want more snap/cut in a dense rock/punk or metal mix. Anyway, thanks for this one Warren - cheers!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +2

      Thanks ever so much for sharing Billy! I do love micing the shell, works great for single hits, terrible for bleed of course! Haha

  • @johnosborne3187
    @johnosborne3187 5 місяців тому +2

    I remember when "How to change a life" came out I thought, "Great song, but those drums! Great message, but those drums! Great recording, but those drums!" The drums really stood out for me and was instrumental (pun intended) in my playing the song again and again.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +1

      Aw shucks! Thanks ever so much John!

    • @xeridian
      @xeridian 5 місяців тому

      Hay, it's SWEETWATER MIKE! My Sales Engineer!
      Great dude who really knows his Shiatzu! 🤟🤖🤟

  • @autoclavebeatsinstrumentals
    @autoclavebeatsinstrumentals 5 місяців тому +1

    Hi Warren, Thank you for the video and making this free. Please where do I find the link to the download the drum stems? I can't see the Link to it in the description

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks ever so much!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +1

      Here are the drum samples:- producelikeapro.lpages.co/mike-arango-drum-samples/

  • @audiomez
    @audiomez Місяць тому

    What is used for audio input in production of the this video?

  • @JornLavoll
    @JornLavoll 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks ❤❤❤

  • @robertopistolesi2735
    @robertopistolesi2735 2 місяці тому

    I hear a bit too air coming to the united. I have gotten good results putting my warm audio jr 47 ( nothing close to your league of course) more towards the edge and closer to the head. It's proximity effect is really great and could prevent you from using all that eq on the way in.

  • @demotherboyz
    @demotherboyz 3 місяці тому

    What is the name of the over heads boom stand ?

  • @cookiebytz
    @cookiebytz 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video... Which is the link to download the drums from the video?

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks ever so much!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +1

      Here are the drum samples:- producelikeapro.lpages.co/mike-arango-drum-samples/

  • @splashesin8
    @splashesin8 5 місяців тому

    Thanks, 😊

  • @gutekzpoligonu
    @gutekzpoligonu 3 місяці тому

    WARREN MY GOOD MAN!
    So heavy drums overall between -15 and -10 finally in pro tools for single tracks?

  • @thundersnow819
    @thundersnow819 5 місяців тому +2

    how are the snare in the rack not making noise?

    • @chinmeysway
      @chinmeysway 5 місяців тому +1

      Turn snare wires off or and put fabric between them / drum maybe? Just a guess but yeah weird to mic w those so close

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +1

      Hi Thunder! It's pretty darn normal to have snares in a drum room and to turn them off or dampen them! I can think of 100's of studios where there's snares in there.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +1

      Yes, that's very common!@@chinmeyswaySo many studios that record drums have snares in there! Dampening them is not difficult at all and VERY common!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +1

      Not to mention every session Drummer I've ever used will bring a number of snares which sit behind the kit, with the snares off!

  • @AndrewBeveridge461
    @AndrewBeveridge461 Місяць тому

    Acrolite.....yep. I have an Oriollo 5.5x14" aluminum, so more or less the same as an Acrolite. I like it a LOT more for recording than my $$$$ cast bronze DW 6.5x14". Big beefy snare does not necessarily equal big bold recorded sound.

  • @TonyMacaroni69_
    @TonyMacaroni69_ 4 місяці тому

    love that drummer :) what's his name?

  • @gastonjabaly
    @gastonjabaly 5 місяців тому +1

    Hmmmm side mic +top mic besides bottom mic is enticing

  • @scottstedeford7575
    @scottstedeford7575 Місяць тому +1

    Mic off-axis on the snare air hole adds a natural punch not obtainable by any other technique.

  • @giorgibaino9059
    @giorgibaino9059 5 місяців тому

    He is committing the EQ. lol I am more into mic choice… eq later. But, in the old days more likely we EQ’d.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +1

      He's doing both! Choosing the right mic and applying EQ where needed! Committing the sound to 'tape' (DAW)!

  • @gilbertspader7974
    @gilbertspader7974 5 місяців тому +4

    I’m old , I’m medicated and reasonably priced
    Got the magic power but you know it ain’t free
    I’m old , I’m mediocre as can be
    Got the magic music but you must pay a fee
    That’s all so far.😊

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +3

      Bob Dylan! I'm a poet and I know it, hope I don't blow it!

  • @tonycannatamusic
    @tonycannatamusic 5 місяців тому +1

    Warren I believe the OH’s should be measured from the kick not the snare. The kick should be centered in the stereo field, not the snare. In countless records the snare is a little off to the left or right and the kick is centered, this is how it should be, this is what makes sense. Also, when we look at a drum set from the audience, the snare is never in the middle, the kick is. 😊

    • @giorgibaino9059
      @giorgibaino9059 5 місяців тому +1

      This is a small kit.

    • @MFKitten
      @MFKitten 5 місяців тому +3

      You're right, and I also disagree. The kick isn't as loud in the OH's, especially when high passed.
      I also kind of think it doesn't matter that much. I'd be just as happy with centering them between the kick and snare instead.

    • @royglennie
      @royglennie 5 місяців тому +4

      I think the point is the snare has more high frequencies so it is more critical to get it in phase in the OH (higher frequencies = shorter wavelengths) for it to appear centred and mix to mono well

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +2

      Hi Tony, thanks for your comment! Always measured phase to the snare, then the whole top end of the kit is in phase, toms aligned etc. I've personally never mixed a snare off centre, if you want to do that because you feel that the way it looks is more important that's perfect;y fine!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +3

      Yes, plus the rest of the kit will appear properly in your overhead mics@@royglennie

  • @AnodyneHipsterInfluencer
    @AnodyneHipsterInfluencer 5 місяців тому

    Gee, I feel bad for any drummer having to get sounds with this guy. You're in for a long day. 😜

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +1

      The video took 2 hours to film with Mike talking about everything in detail and edited it's one hour and 7 mins! He's typically up and running within 30 mins! If that's a long day...haha

  • @thedocholiday
    @thedocholiday 5 місяців тому +1

    And 2 hours later the client was burnt out and had no creativity left

    • @drinksprite
      @drinksprite Місяць тому

      I get burnt out as the engineer haha. I like to do all the sound setup the night before doing the recording

  • @frederickbaugher8361
    @frederickbaugher8361 5 місяців тому +4

    “ massive drums” Are a product of smart song arrangement, not microphone placement. If you want to learn something, I suggest you listen to Mutt Lange’s work with Def Leppard.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  5 місяців тому +13

      Yes, Mutt Lange's use of Drum Samples (often fully programmed drums, not even live!) some Room ambience, and Digital Reverbs (Lexicon etc) created large drum sounds. All of these techniques are available if you don't want to record natural drums like we did here!

    • @frederickbaugher8361
      @frederickbaugher8361 5 місяців тому

      @@Producelikeapro How Mutt Lange created the drum tones isn’t nearly as important as how he showcased them in the arrangements. For example, the snare drum on “Pour Some Sugar On Me” sounds so big because it’s the only instrument being played on over 50% of the snare hits throughout the song.

    • @noisewar4612
      @noisewar4612 4 місяці тому +1

      ahh yes, the most important part of making a record - not worrying about how the drums sound

    • @AnodyneHipsterInfluencer
      @AnodyneHipsterInfluencer Місяць тому +5

      ​@@frederickbaugher8361 Every time I see you make a comment, you're always so humble and polite. Never trying to shoehorn in your own trite opinions in a totally bitter, condescending manner as if they are maxims sent down from on high. You seem like you must be a really popular person who's great at parties. 👍🏻

  • @josephrhodes2896
    @josephrhodes2896 2 місяці тому

    Gotta say quite disappointed in the sound of this kit. Not sure if it’s the engineering or the kit itself, but it sounds so weak, annoying snare, too much sizzle on the symbols/ HH. Just sounds very raw, not in a good way. And yes I’m listening through good headphones that I know well… this is just eh. The room size is also not helping.