I'd take the Cat. I have owned many, never let me down compared to all the guys I have ridden with over 30 years. Cat always puts the power down and handles better.... over the years. My opinion.... based on experience.
@@einar8019 Yes, not the same as iact, which is thought by these guys to be superior. And the Polaris is 1g more than AC. Anything to keep the 1 2 3 placements
Ya well I'm a dealer.... Nothing better then an arctic cat, then the Indy, and lastly skidoo, to me and most people would agree that skidoo are not that impressive like In the early 2000s!! Owell Love our arctic cats way way more!!
Ive rode all three of these chassis, ended up buying the Renegade 600r, they are spot on, polaris front ends are very flat and settled, the Doo definately has the most nuts, cat isnt far behind in any of it but it definately is not the best especially on fit and finish, Cat had some reliablity issues this year too
@@skylermummert24 Arctic makes better sleds in every class except maybe work, like the Skandic. But don't the run a giant 1200cc 4 stroke in it now. Not exactly what I would want in deep back country. Give me the 600 ace or jus 600
So the Cat loses on value, though you test the top iACT model and don't even use it or tell us what settings it's on? "Too stiff" come on now. We know who pays the bills
It certainly does seem odd that they would completely ignore that bit, and then make a point of mentioning "there's nothing to justify the added cost" in the Value segment.
I just purchased a new 2019 Arctic Cat ZR 6000 sno pro and I love it. I'm blown away by the power delivery, smoothness and overall ride quality in the heavy bumps. However, I have to agree it lacks low end grunt and the front suspension is a little stiff for light riders. I've yet to take the time to adjust the fox shocks. All in all, I do agree with all that was in the video. It's a really good sled if you're thinking about one
the springs need some bump time they allways soften up and cat allways gives you top end I had 2 zl-500s 98-2002 both stiff but on smooth let it rip flat as a table too much fun beat Yamaha 500 and 600s 2 strokes back in 1999 Polaris had to ditch the Fuji 500 and build their own 500, skidoo had to relabel their 600 into a 500 class that's when cat caught them off guard but these days its anybodys guess
Not sure if anyone has ever heard of this but back in the day there were 2 lever action 30-30 manufacturer. Marlin and Winchester, both were fine rifles and did the exact same thing. They fired a bullet that was outstanding for taking down deer. But it didn't stop people from taking sides and trying to say one was better than the other.
I just about pinned my throttle on my 2018 polaris 600 to another village that's 70 miles from mine and took me 55 minutes with 2 stops. Polaris 600 is my best choice to ride. Even running at 156°f doing 85mph had no issues.
Indy? Or Rush? I believe it. I used to get passed in my way to work heading towards Roseau b6btye same Indy 400 3 times a week or more. I'm sure he was wide open but he was close to or above 80mph in the 399cc liquid. They're stuff flies. I had an XC 700, best sled I ever had.
I've ridden all 3. That axys front end makes a world of difference on handling. My son has the zr6000, and it was the only sled to go back on the trailer broken with 400 miles on it. I really liked my buddies doo, but not enough to change brands for me. Polaris all the way.
That def sucks for your son. Sorry it happened. I'm not a brand loyal guy but I can tell you that a breakdown on a Zr6000 is quite rare. I ride with multiple groups and probably know of around 20sih between 2018 to current. I don't know of a single breakdown among them. One of them is at 7500 miles on the factory belt still. I don't own a zr6 but would recommend them highly to rides who fit a certain style for sure.
Got rid of my 2013 ski doo sled a couple years ago for the 2016 Indy 600 sp. love it and it beats the 600 etec in a lakerun, so not sure about his more power crap. Polaris rates the Indy clean fire 120-130 and the etec is rated at 125. The clean fire is also noted as the most reliable engine you can buy. Wouldn’t that be something they would rate?
Its funny reading comments, Cat never gets a break, Poo always wins. If you haven't rode them all how is your opinion valid. You just vote for what you buy. Just like chevy, ford, ram. I have had them all including Yamaha which is never in the top 3. I finally bought my 1st Poo back in '12 and the switchback was the best I have ever rode. In '17 I switched and bought a ZR. Well that didn't last long. Engine performed well , suspension ok. My friend just buys Doo so riding his XRs was good it just didn't handle the way a Polaris did. Loved the engine performance of the Doo but overall I just like the Polaris. So now back to Polaris this year. As long as you have fun riding, it shouldn't matter. Ride what you suits you. They are all good in there own way.
fuel efficiency isn't the only reason to go 600, repair bills is another possible savings point. If the 850 class engines out there prove their reliability then I agree with not understanding wanting to save just a few gas dollars. That being said the Doo 850 eats way more oil than the 600, which also costs. There are some high-mile 850s out there, but we need a few more years before we can conclusively say the 850s are reliable. the bigger issue for me is how manufacturers like to take away features and upgrades from 600s, as if us lowly low-hp people don't want or need it.
Boyz Burgau they do make a nice sled. I do accept and agree with that. I do not, however, accept the fact that snowtrax has them as the winner in each category/shootout. Obviously it’s their opinion and is very subjective, but come on.
@@wyattbraun4146 I'm not going to praise one company over another but he didn't even mention the suspension system or what setting he was riding on. Feels biased.
I’m not sure how these guys can rate the Ski Doo as the most fuel efficient of the three? It’s the first brand to run out of fuel on the USXC racing circuit, not being able to make a 70 mile stretch. Sorry, I don’t agree.
I can see why people think they are bias. When you say the Arctic Cat would be more powerful if you were on the ice... what you are saying is the Arctic Cat is more powerful. Like the man said power is what consumers are most interested in and when consumers test power they line them up on ice and race. If you line all 3 up and race (the way everyone is going to do) the 2nd cheapest will win and the Polaris rider will be struggling to explain to his 2 buddies how even though he came in last place "he felt better doing it"
Many 600s pull better than the larger displacement sleds and only come up short after hitting 85-90 MPH, so this is no surprise the question is does it matter if you are doing 90+ on a trail or not
So the problem is, since this video was made, Polaris has jacked up the prices of ALL their sleds. And depression hits Polaris a lot harder than Doo. So now, the value section of this comparison goes to Skidoo. Making them finish one point ahead of Polaris. I was very disappointed when I saw that Polaris had raised the prices of their sleds
This channel is a joke. Was just riding with my buddy last week. I have the same cat and he’s got the same ski doo. He was pissed at how much easier I was taking corners than he was. I agree with everyone else. This channel seems biased. Could be wrong but every video feels that way
So if you get a 600 ACE instead of a 500 or 600 2 stroke. You know you’re saving a bit more than a couple bucks. Lose a lot of performance but good rental. When you say ski doo front suspension gets overworked I have to think that it’s for me. Rear suspension is so much more important given how close they really area. Good review. Arctic Cat loses big, yet Arctic is the race winner crisis country always stacked up top 10. Rarely a single Doo. I watch those guy on the Cats and the rear and front work so well together and loses nothing to either sled power wise. Better breaks too. Arctic Cat is just not going to make the Canadians happy. They make a heck of an airplane but it’s been a slow decline in innovation since the REav came out
This show is so bias towards polaris and Doo its literally hard to watch. the Cat has more power overall, but lets put it in 2nd because the Doo only makes good power down low.... lets also leave out the IACT suspension the cat has because thats not a great feature...
Suspension adjustability? Wind deflection, appearance? Engine reliability???? Cat would be the Best hands down if these were added to the list of criteria. I guess if you make the criteria fit the formula.... you will get the winner of your choice.... decent video though guys.... thanks. Cats are damn great machines.... too bad these dudes don't get it right.... well most of the time.
Not with the skidoo 600R E-TEC direct bottom end bearing lubrication. If anything It is more reliable than arctic cat because it burns so clean that you never have to stop and change plugs.
@@sled_neckx9972 spark plugs?spark plugs? I didn't know they ever need changing anymore. We're not talking about a 1972 Rupp. I have a 99' zr 700, it hasn't fouled a plug since Clinton was president.
Iv driven them all artic cat is way better then almost every category... more like 14 points for the cat and 6 for both polaris and skidoo. I'm laughing because most people agree with me. Artic cat def #1 and indy 650 is second!! The indy 600 sucks compared to the ctec! Way better gas and it's way quicker off the line then an indy or a skidoo.... they don't even know what they are talking about. They definitely dont like artic cat... its more expensive.... hmmmm I wonder why!!! Hahahahahahahaha 🤯🤯🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤡🤡🤡💀☠️💀☠️
Why does he say the ski-doo has an engine, but he says the polaris has a motor. Im not a genius, but dont they both run on fuel with combustion engines? The only motor on that sled is the one in the dildo attached to the seat.
He knocked do on its best EPA motor and they only pay more money for the Doo because of that and now it’s based on value and 🤦🏻♂️ stop changing how you grade shootouts to fit your outcome
nothing matters more than power. handling comfort ect can all be adjusted and tuned with aftermarket. The driver and his skills matter more than any handling. fact. reliability matters too. and Yamaha is the Best at this period. But yes you guys are biased, if even for your own reasons and way too many catagories. POWER. Reliability. Price. all thats needed
Ski Doo's are good sleds but have one major flaw. Extremely front heavy. As in they bulldoze through the trail. Arctic Cat's are effortless yet still turn easily. Skidozer's turn great but feel like they may make a tunnel while you are riding them Is it an adjustment to balance? Possibly. But Arctic Cat's show up riding much better without adjustment.
And I have an F800 Sno Pro but had some friends with 800 Ski Doo's who wanted to do comparisons. After 20 miles of riding they honestly were pissed that they had ski-doo's. I told them how effortless my 800 was to drive and how perfect it came out of turns. They didn't buy it until they drove it. Maybe the Ski Doo's can be tweaked but direct from the factory it feels 100 pounds too heavy up front. And my stock (except studs) against their stock (except studs) head to head in a race across an open field wasn't even close. I blew their doors off.
Richard Hufferson ya I’m a skidoo rider ( but I like all brands) and I agree. The skidoo doesn’t look that good in all black BUT. Get a good colour with coloured tunnel, lower windshield and then they look way better than any ol Polaris. The new axys chassis is so overrated and it’s kinda the opposite. It looks better in black
Nils Johansson They stick random bs into the battle to give points to the Polaris. In the value catergory, they just gave Polaris a Point without even really saying why or what it has to offer. Just “ oh skidoo is $100 more obviously it’s more expensive which clearly means it doesn’t have as good value” is basically what they are saying
600 cc ....Thats basically what i want. A new 600 or a vintage 500 to 600 . As long as it has independant suspension. Although i'd love a leaf spring Kawasaki or a leaf spring MERC 440 Sno-Twister.
I know this is an old video, and hope to get some feedback here. 1) IS there a video you guys have done with this same comparison but with the New Polaris 650 in the mix? Ive seen a few on just the 650 by itself, but no side by comparison. 2) I hear a lot of people saying dont by Cat now, would you agree with that sentiment, and if so why? 3) Is the Yamaha and Cat THAT similar to leave it out? Or is it just that far behind these three?
The skidoo has a nervous front end because of those Junk adjustable skis Put some pilot 5.7 on that sled and it will be completely different I switched mine out
Love the vid‘s guys. I Just picked up a 2017 ZR 6000 RR. It only has 80 miles on it!!!! Just wondering if you guys were running that iPone oil in it when you reached 10,000 miles or were you running the Arctic Cat eTech oil. I know the new oil pump requires the E tech oil but wasn’t sure if you guys changed it or if that would harm it. I know you guys said it was pretty much bulletproof so just curious.
These guys are jokes always the same brands winning year after year. It's quite pathetic. I had them all and honestly the cat is a really nice trail sled and so is the Polaris but skidoo feels very touchy on the trail
Victor Coutu I own a 16 MXZ tnt 600. While it is a great riding sled with good power, not to mention it sips fuel and oil. I never feel like it has enough downward pressure on the skis and feels loose at times
@@GameFishermen I felt the exact opposite. Ski pressure was overwhelming to the point it was slowing down my turns and god forbid you crossed a road and watched your carbides disappear.
If you work with your limiter strap and shock settings you can make them feel light or heavy. All it takes is a little knowledge and a couple hours of testing to make them exactly how you like them. I currently ride a Gen 4 Renegade. After a couple rides and some tweeks it rides, turns, crosses roads all that stuff without issue.
@@slick_rickmcquick387 Yeah, I do know how to adjust them but they weren't my sleds. We rode them to the Arctic Cat dealer to test drive a Zr600. They immediately bought it just because it was perfect to start.
@@Sparty1966grad That is not possible. No sled is setup from the factory for every rider size and weight. Unless you and all your buddies are close to the same size and weight and close to what the cat is set for from the factory. Then maybe. I know all my the sleds I have bought have come with shocks and blocks set to minimum. And I setup from there. I am 6' 275 and my son is 6'2" 210. We obviously require different suspension setups on our sleds.
i have that zr 600 iact in 129 except black and grey and im very happy lets put it this way i allways feel that arctic cat has alot to hang their hat on considering how they were down back in 1982 and came back i have old magazines showing dave thompson in the air with the new eltegre and the caption read THE CAT IS BACK they are the Harley Davidson of snowmobiles and the fact they win more races fit and finish has allways been a issue in united states canada goes by loydes of london kind of quality europian way
just buy the brand you love I like snowtrax but every sled they ever test is always the greatest when tested by itself they never tell the real issues with sleds like motors which blow up because of cheap Chinese parts and saying polaris has a 4 year engine warranty it cost 2 too three thousand extra to get a 4 year warranty even a 2 year warranty cost extra that's why buying a sled with a proven history for reliability is worth a lot in savings that's why a indy 600 is a great sled bullet proof motor and clutches extremely long belt life and the stongest fastest 600 in it's class don't let snowtrax bullshit you on this it is far the best 600motor out there!
im not so sure about putting polaris 3rd in power im sure i could beat a cat or ski doo 600 with my 17rush xcr 600 just cus it older tech dont make it slow it was only like 3 years ago i seen revews on polaris 600 being the fastest.
In Finland they tested the performance of these three sleds in realworld situation and Artic-cat lost with big difference Poo and Doo were kinda side by side
I wouldn’t ever buy a new Polaris, it’s irritating that every video I watch from snow trax that it’s totally bias for Polaris. Actually it’s only Luke’s videos that are bias.
Was a great battle until you said “fun per dollar”. I know you guys are a big fan of Polaris but i wanna see everything the sleds has to offer. Not fun per dollar that’s just an excuse to give points to the Polaris. What sled actually has more to offer? Looks like I’m finishing this battle myself. Pathetic
Eric Thompson mate they do alot more with ski doo then polaris. In finland the doo costs 16k€ brand new while the polaris xc costs 13k€. So the fun per dollar does matter.
I've been hearing reports of Polaris have running issues? They should of had a catagory for maintenance. Almost everyone I know that rides polaris and skidoo sleds admits the polaris is a better ride.?
Have the indy but really i think its all personal choice . I may ride one way but the artic cat riders ride another way same for ski-doo. I have ridden the cat and to be quite honest i love my indy but i did enjoy the cat very much as well. the ski-doo not yet but would like to see. I find the two i have ridden to be equal in just about every way with only a few minor differences. Let you know how the indy does in a two hour 40 min race later this year. Win nope but keep up with the pack o hell ya.
Depends on your experience around snowmobiles and how much money you want to dump into this sport....I would buy an older used Polaris 440, 500, or 600.
They never pick the cat, also, you never ever see any arctic cat advertisements in their shows, or hardly ever anyway. Too bad, and very unfair! Every year it's the same thing, if they just change a little this or that they could possibly be at the top. Wow, really!
Didn’t even watch the video but I’m sure I’m rite when I guess Polaris wins and cat is last . This guy must be paid by Polaris . For all that watch these videos for honest info don’t ... cat is an awesome sled I own one and my friends own skidoo and Polaris . All the new sleds are great pick the one you like best as they are all machines and at some point will break . Snow trax do your selfs a favor and quit favoring Polaris we all can see it and it’s getting old .
J K EVERYTHING RC actually they are sponsored by ski doo and Yamaha not even artic cat and Polaris, Polaris just has the better chassis then artic cat by far
Would like to see the 600 mountain sleds, including the 600 alpha.
I'd take the Cat. I have owned many, never let me down compared to all the guys I have ridden with over 30 years. Cat always puts the power down and handles better.... over the years. My opinion.... based on experience.
Agreed
Yeah, this video seemed biased
YESSSSS
I’ve always had engine problems with the Polaris motors
I used to be die hard cat fan, but we always had issues, got a Polaris xc 600 and has been flawless! Still haven't own a ski Doo though
Forgot a huge feature about the arctic cat. The iact system. Adjust your suspension with a click of a button... seems fishy why you’d leave that out
Fishy or intentional? Skidozer's plow the road. Cat's ride across it with ease.
ski doo has that too its called r motion
@@einar8019 Yes, not the same as iact, which is thought by these guys to be superior. And the Polaris is 1g more than AC. Anything to keep the 1 2 3 placements
Ya well I'm a dealer.... Nothing better then an arctic cat, then the Indy, and lastly skidoo, to me and most people would agree that skidoo are not that impressive like In the early 2000s!! Owell Love our arctic cats way way more!!
Love how skidoo friendly these guys are and how big of cat haters they are. LOMG LIVE CAT!!
100% Agree...all there videos sound the same now..
@@herbjankowsky3463 totally agree!!
Yeah arctic crap 💩
Ive rode all three of these chassis, ended up buying the Renegade 600r, they are spot on, polaris front ends are very flat and settled, the Doo definately has the most nuts, cat isnt far behind in any of it but it definately is not the best especially on fit and finish, Cat had some reliablity issues this year too
@@skylermummert24 Arctic makes better sleds in every class except maybe work, like the Skandic. But don't the run a giant 1200cc 4 stroke in it now. Not exactly what I would want in deep back country. Give me the 600 ace or jus 600
So the Cat loses on value, though you test the top iACT model and don't even use it or tell us what settings it's on? "Too stiff" come on now. We know who pays the bills
It certainly does seem odd that they would completely ignore that bit, and then make a point of mentioning "there's nothing to justify the added cost" in the Value segment.
And where I live I got my cat for thousands off. Best value, never hear of engine failures, solid sleds
Facts
@Syver Bertilrud or it just better
A 600 class mountain sled shootout would be interesting! curious about the new 600 PRO RMK!
I just purchased a new 2019 Arctic Cat ZR 6000 sno pro and I love it. I'm blown away by the power delivery, smoothness and overall ride quality in the heavy bumps. However, I have to agree it lacks low end grunt and the front suspension is a little stiff for light riders. I've yet to take the time to adjust the fox shocks. All in all, I do agree with all that was in the video. It's a really good sled if you're thinking about one
the springs need some bump time they allways soften up and cat allways gives you top end I had 2 zl-500s 98-2002 both stiff but on smooth let it rip flat as a table too much fun beat Yamaha 500 and 600s 2 strokes back in 1999 Polaris had to ditch the Fuji 500 and build their own 500, skidoo had to relabel their 600 into a 500 class that's when cat caught them off guard but these days its anybodys guess
Indy XC 600 won this years iron dog race in Alaska. Toughest and longest race ever for a snowmachine.
MFiskeaux I watch all of them this year I live in koyuk alaska
That answers my question about a 600 xc being adequate for the Great northern expedition endurance ride. Thank's
Nothing to do with drivers or race prep right? Is that the bar we are aiming for? How long we can beat a new snowmobile for?
Guyman from Nunam iqua,AK yup bb like that.
@@edwardabrahamiii3742 guyman from here. Yup
Not sure if anyone has ever heard of this but back in the day there were 2 lever action 30-30 manufacturer. Marlin and Winchester, both were fine rifles and did the exact same thing. They fired a bullet that was outstanding for taking down deer. But it didn't stop people from taking sides and trying to say one was better than the other.
I just about pinned my throttle on my 2018 polaris 600 to another village that's 70 miles from mine and took me 55 minutes with 2 stops. Polaris 600 is my best choice to ride. Even running at 156°f doing 85mph had no issues.
Indy? Or Rush? I believe it. I used to get passed in my way to work heading towards Roseau b6btye same Indy 400 3 times a week or more. I'm sure he was wide open but he was close to or above 80mph in the 399cc liquid. They're stuff flies. I had an XC 700, best sled I ever had.
You know nothing beats a good old fashion side-by-side drag race to prove or disapprove of what you’re biased seat of the pants feel is
I've ridden all 3. That axys front end makes a world of difference on handling. My son has the zr6000, and it was the only sled to go back on the trailer broken with 400 miles on it. I really liked my buddies doo, but not enough to change brands for me. Polaris all the way.
That def sucks for your son. Sorry it happened. I'm not a brand loyal guy but I can tell you that a breakdown on a Zr6000 is quite rare. I ride with multiple groups and probably know of around 20sih between 2018 to current. I don't know of a single breakdown among them. One of them is at 7500 miles on the factory belt still. I don't own a zr6 but would recommend them highly to rides who fit a certain style for sure.
Must have got a lemon of a cat… that sucks. I’ve ran 2 to over 10,000 and one to 7000 miles
Got rid of my 2013 ski doo sled a couple years ago for the 2016 Indy 600 sp. love it and it beats the 600 etec in a lakerun, so not sure about his more power crap. Polaris rates the Indy clean fire 120-130 and the etec is rated at 125. The clean fire is also noted as the most reliable engine you can buy. Wouldn’t that be something they would rate?
Its funny reading comments, Cat never gets a break, Poo always wins. If you haven't rode them all how is your opinion valid. You just vote for what you buy. Just like chevy, ford, ram. I have had them all including Yamaha which is never in the top 3. I finally bought my 1st Poo back in '12 and the switchback was the best I have ever rode. In '17 I switched and bought a ZR. Well that didn't last long. Engine performed well , suspension ok. My friend just buys Doo so riding his XRs was good it just didn't handle the way a Polaris did. Loved the engine performance of the Doo but overall I just like the Polaris. So now back to Polaris this year. As long as you have fun riding, it shouldn't matter. Ride what you suits you. They are all good in there own way.
I call BS on this. Arctic Cat should take the top mark on almost all of these categories. We know who is sponsoring these guys.
7 and a half minutes of my life I'll never get back.... Surprise... Another tie.
fuel efficiency isn't the only reason to go 600, repair bills is another possible savings point. If the 850 class engines out there prove their reliability then I agree with not understanding wanting to save just a few gas dollars. That being said the Doo 850 eats way more oil than the 600, which also costs. There are some high-mile 850s out there, but we need a few more years before we can conclusively say the 850s are reliable.
the bigger issue for me is how manufacturers like to take away features and upgrades from 600s, as if us lowly low-hp people don't want or need it.
Why is it a MXZed and a ZR6000? I'll never understand Canada.
This guy is sooo horned up over Polaris. He knows it, we know it, and he knows we know it lol 4:56
his brother thinks arctic cat snowmobiles are the best looking snowmobiles on snow ?
They should also add another category...”reliability”
These new Indys send me back to my old 500cc liquid. They are some good Lookers. Not sure what AC is up to with colors? LSD much?
Or just make a really nice sled and you can’t accept that
Boyz Burgau they do make a nice sled. I do accept and agree with that. I do not, however, accept the fact that snowtrax has them as the winner in each category/shootout. Obviously it’s their opinion and is very subjective, but come on.
I always wanted to drive a Polaris ski doo one day but I'm fine with a 600 Arctic cat
So with the iact suspension on the cat the front end is still too stiff?
fireredcannon twofour ya that’s what I was confused on
@@wyattbraun4146 I'm not going to praise one company over another but he didn't even mention the suspension system or what setting he was riding on. Feels biased.
fireredcannon twofour ya I felt the Same way
I’m not sure how these guys can rate the Ski Doo as the most fuel efficient of the three? It’s the first brand to run out of fuel on the USXC racing circuit, not being able to make a 70 mile stretch. Sorry, I don’t agree.
I can see why people think they are bias. When you say the Arctic Cat would be more powerful if you were on the ice... what you are saying is the Arctic Cat is more powerful. Like the man said power is what consumers are most interested in and when consumers test power they line them up on ice and race. If you line all 3 up and race (the way everyone is going to do) the 2nd cheapest will win and the Polaris rider will be struggling to explain to his 2 buddies how even though he came in last place "he felt better doing it"
Great video I love all of the sleds
Have you brand loyal guys ridden them all.- just wondered
Many 600s pull better than the larger displacement sleds and only come up short after hitting 85-90 MPH, so this is no surprise the question is does it matter if you are doing 90+ on a trail or not
So the problem is, since this video was made, Polaris has jacked up the prices of ALL their sleds. And depression hits Polaris a lot harder than Doo. So now, the value section of this comparison goes to Skidoo. Making them finish one point ahead of Polaris. I was very disappointed when I saw that Polaris had raised the prices of their sleds
Great video, if i were to buy a new sled it would be a 600 so this was a great video to see
This channel is a joke. Was just riding with my buddy last week. I have the same cat and he’s got the same ski doo. He was pissed at how much easier I was taking corners than he was. I agree with everyone else. This channel seems biased. Could be wrong but every video feels that way
His sled likely wasnt set up right in the skid, Gen4 handles very well in 137 version with proper setup
Did you even watch the video dude? They literally put the arctic cat ahead of the ski doo in handling, i don't know what you're complaining about.
I went from a 800r ptek to a 600r, for reliability reasons. Also helps it barely uses gas and oil compared to the old dirty ptek
What was the power difference?
@@Fury5.010r the ptek was rated at 150hp I think, and the 600r is 125hp.
So if you get a 600 ACE instead of a 500 or 600 2 stroke. You know you’re saving a bit more than a couple bucks. Lose a lot of performance but good rental. When you say ski doo front suspension gets overworked I have to think that it’s for me. Rear suspension is so much more important given how close they really area. Good review. Arctic Cat loses big, yet Arctic is the race winner crisis country always stacked up top 10. Rarely a single Doo. I watch those guy on the Cats and the rear and front work so well together and loses nothing to either sled power wise. Better breaks too. Arctic Cat is just not going to make the Canadians happy. They make a heck of an airplane but it’s been a slow decline in innovation since the REav came out
Snowtrax should be renamed polaristrax.
I would still go with cat and ski doo over Polaris. They blow up
600 is all you need
Do a 550 shootout
What about reliability? I don’t know how to rebuild an engine.
SkiDoo wins.
If you want engine reliability go for yamaha
The Polaris 600 clean fire was rated the most reliable sled engine EVER.
@@vulcanman64 yamaha 1049 cc triple?
Is it the power of the engine or the clutching?
This show is so bias towards polaris and Doo its literally hard to watch. the Cat has more power overall, but lets put it in 2nd because the Doo only makes good power down low.... lets also leave out the IACT suspension the cat has because thats not a great feature...
Suspension adjustability? Wind deflection, appearance? Engine reliability???? Cat would be the Best hands down if these were added to the list of criteria. I guess if you make the criteria fit the formula.... you will get the winner of your choice.... decent video though guys.... thanks. Cats are damn great machines.... too bad these dudes don't get it right.... well most of the time.
Not with the skidoo 600R E-TEC direct bottom end bearing lubrication. If anything It is more reliable than arctic cat because it burns so clean that you never have to stop and change plugs.
@@sled_neckx9972 spark plugs?spark plugs? I didn't know they ever need changing anymore. We're not talking about a 1972 Rupp. I have a 99' zr 700, it hasn't fouled a plug since Clinton was president.
@@toddcatlin4749 well my friend has fouled 2 plugs on his new polaris 850 in less than 500 miles.
Time for your medication. The diamond drives blow up so where is the reliability?
@@vulcanman64 diamond drives blow up.. LOL the onlythign that blows up more than doo's 850, is poos 840. BTW the dd hasn't been used in 8 years
I'm séeing the Arctic Cat a full $1000 cheaper than the Polaris, but it does seem mandatory to make the best argument to out Arctic Cat in last.
Love the video! Watched it about 28 times now. Buuut which one pulls trail wheelies????
Thanks
Knew the results before the video even started! Biased much!
So you knew it was going to be a tie?🙄
@@jimh.412 yup always is. They can't get enough of Ski-doo and Polaris. Has to be a tie,they're too in love with both companies.
Ik this is an old video but are artic cats good sleds? Everyone makes them seem bad.
Iv driven them all artic cat is way better then almost every category... more like 14 points for the cat and 6 for both polaris and skidoo. I'm laughing because most people agree with me. Artic cat def #1 and indy 650 is second!! The indy 600 sucks compared to the ctec! Way better gas and it's way quicker off the line then an indy or a skidoo.... they don't even know what they are talking about. They definitely dont like artic cat... its more expensive.... hmmmm I wonder why!!! Hahahahahahahaha 🤯🤯🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤡🤡🤡💀☠️💀☠️
They are good sleds. Basic maintenance and it should be an easy 10,000 mile sled. I’ve seen them personally as high as 14,000
My RMK800 gets 8mpg. A oilmen dream.
Why does he say the ski-doo has an engine, but he says the polaris has a motor. Im not a genius, but dont they both run on fuel with combustion engines? The only motor on that sled is the one in the dildo attached to the seat.
Has arctic cat ever won one of these? Jesus man, give it a break.
Well... they won the real world sled of the year award in 2014 if i remember correctly
Can you guys review a new ski doo 600 carb? Those are the value sleds
He knocked do on its best EPA motor and they only pay more money for the Doo because of that and now it’s based on value and 🤦🏻♂️ stop changing how you grade shootouts to fit your outcome
I wish you would mention the weights of the sleds reviewed.
nothing matters more than power. handling comfort ect can all be adjusted and tuned with aftermarket. The driver and his skills matter more than any handling. fact. reliability matters too. and Yamaha is the Best at this period. But yes you guys are biased, if even for your own reasons and way too many catagories. POWER. Reliability. Price. all thats needed
I heard from some guys here in Alaska village, that their polaris 340 went 90 mph. Made me laugh only.
Yamaha Transporter 600?
stop it now that was a 4 stroke I believe and they were doing 2 strokes
Ski Doo's are good sleds but have one major flaw. Extremely front heavy. As in they bulldoze through the trail. Arctic Cat's are effortless yet still turn easily. Skidozer's turn great but feel like they may make a tunnel while you are riding them Is it an adjustment to balance? Possibly. But Arctic Cat's show up riding much better without adjustment.
And I have an F800 Sno Pro but had some friends with 800 Ski Doo's who wanted to do comparisons. After 20 miles of riding they honestly were pissed that they had ski-doo's. I told them how effortless my 800 was to drive and how perfect it came out of turns. They didn't buy it until they drove it. Maybe the Ski Doo's can be tweaked but direct from the factory it feels 100 pounds too heavy up front. And my stock (except studs) against their stock (except studs) head to head in a race across an open field wasn't even close. I blew their doors off.
I know this isn't something everyone cares about, but that skidoo is just butt ugly. Love the look of the cat. The Polaris is okay
I agree, the Ski-Doo is butt ugly. A step backwards from the Rev XS in terms of styling.
they all look good in my eye im a polaris guy
Richard Hufferson ya I’m a skidoo rider ( but I like all brands) and I agree. The skidoo doesn’t look that good in all black BUT. Get a good colour with coloured tunnel, lower windshield and then they look way better than any ol Polaris. The new axys chassis is so overrated and it’s kinda the opposite. It looks better in black
his brother has said many time arcticat snowmobiles are the best looking sledds on snow @@brianwilliams7118
Richard Hufferson I hate all the new sleds but the Polaris lol. New 03-07 rev owner and it’s beautiful
Love sledding
franco prezioso me too
No way! Skidon't was a winner! These guys love giving tongue to skidon't.
Nils Johansson They stick random bs into the battle to give points to the Polaris. In the value catergory, they just gave Polaris a Point without even really saying why or what it has to offer. Just “ oh skidoo is $100 more obviously it’s more expensive which clearly means it doesn’t have as good value” is basically what they are saying
Eric Thompson what category do you think helps the polaris i think most of them are pretty important
600 cc ....Thats basically what i want. A new 600 or a vintage 500 to 600 . As long as it has independant suspension. Although i'd love a leaf spring Kawasaki or a leaf spring MERC 440 Sno-Twister.
I know this is an old video, and hope to get some feedback here. 1) IS there a video you guys have done with this same comparison but with the New Polaris 650 in the mix? Ive seen a few on just the 650 by itself, but no side by comparison. 2) I hear a lot of people saying dont by Cat now, would you agree with that sentiment, and if so why? 3) Is the Yamaha and Cat THAT similar to leave it out? Or is it just that far behind these three?
I'm here commenting before the end of the video. I assume the skidoo wins...
The skidoo has a nervous front end because of those Junk adjustable skis Put some pilot 5.7 on that sled and it will be completely different I switched mine out
Love the vid‘s guys. I Just picked up a 2017 ZR 6000 RR. It only has 80 miles on it!!!! Just wondering if you guys were running that iPone oil in it when you reached 10,000 miles or were you running the Arctic Cat eTech oil. I know the new oil pump requires the E tech oil but wasn’t sure if you guys changed it or if that would harm it. I know you guys said it was pretty much bulletproof so just curious.
Run ctec
Cool. Is the 440 2 stroke dead? I would pick the Polaris 600 be a good cross country trail sled.
These guys are jokes always the same brands winning year after year. It's quite pathetic. I had them all and honestly the cat is a really nice trail sled and so is the Polaris but skidoo feels very touchy on the trail
Victor Coutu I own a 16 MXZ tnt 600. While it is a great riding sled with good power, not to mention it sips fuel and oil. I never feel like it has enough downward pressure on the skis and feels loose at times
@@GameFishermen I felt the exact opposite. Ski pressure was overwhelming to the point it was slowing down my turns and god forbid you crossed a road and watched your carbides disappear.
If you work with your limiter strap and shock settings you can make them feel light or heavy. All it takes is a little knowledge and a couple hours of testing to make them exactly how you like them. I currently ride a Gen 4 Renegade. After a couple rides and some tweeks it rides, turns, crosses roads all that stuff without issue.
@@slick_rickmcquick387 Yeah, I do know how to adjust them but they weren't my sleds. We rode them to the Arctic Cat dealer to test drive a Zr600. They immediately bought it just because it was perfect to start.
@@Sparty1966grad That is not possible. No sled is setup from the factory for every rider size and weight. Unless you and all your buddies are close to the same size and weight and close to what the cat is set for from the factory. Then maybe. I know all my the sleds I have bought have come with shocks and blocks set to minimum. And I setup from there. I am 6' 275 and my son is 6'2" 210. We obviously require different suspension setups on our sleds.
do you have a review or shootout of the Polaris Indy XC 137 planned?
Skidoo’s new 600 is insane almost comparable to the 800 etec
First ride on my new 600r last weekend, its spunky even in break in
i have that zr 600 iact in 129 except black and grey and im very happy lets put it this way i allways feel that arctic cat has alot to hang their hat on considering how they were down back in 1982 and came back i have old magazines showing dave thompson in the air with the new eltegre and the caption read THE CAT IS BACK they are the Harley Davidson of snowmobiles and the fact they win more races fit and finish has allways been a issue in united states canada goes by loydes of london kind of quality europian way
just buy the brand you love I like snowtrax but every sled they ever test is always the greatest when tested by itself they never tell the real issues with sleds like motors which blow up because of cheap Chinese parts and saying polaris has a 4 year engine warranty it cost 2 too three thousand extra to get a 4 year warranty even a 2 year warranty cost extra that's why buying a sled with a proven history for reliability is worth a lot in savings that's why a indy 600 is a great sled bullet proof motor and clutches extremely long belt life and the stongest fastest 600 in it's class don't let snowtrax bullshit you on this it is far the best 600motor out there!
Rode them both, the 600 r has more oomph
That's quite weird because polaris loses points for its engine being old? Category was power and he said it's good but polaris still gets only 1 point
Don't wait for these guys to make sense. They have a Canadian agenda
Cannot go wrong with any of these sleds. It’s about rider. 80% rider/20% sled. Now find snowmobile friendly dealer.
why not say comparison?
im not so sure about putting polaris 3rd in power im sure i could beat a cat or ski doo 600 with my 17rush xcr 600 just cus it older tech dont make it slow it was only like 3 years ago i seen revews on polaris 600 being the fastest.
In Finland they tested the performance of these three sleds in realworld situation and Artic-cat lost with big difference Poo and Doo were kinda side by side
Witch sled has the best ergos for a 6’ 240lb man?
I'm 6'1 and 230 and the axys is great. Sits a little taller but I still want to raise my bars and inch or 2 for standing
Greenbacks da funk were in Canada bro
I wouldn’t ever buy a new Polaris, it’s irritating that every video I watch from snow trax that it’s totally bias for Polaris. Actually it’s only Luke’s videos that are bias.
Ride the axys, the front is perfec rear is butt ugly, but performance is ok, not like the skidoo
I’m a skidoo fan. I was disappointed to see the artic cat not have I act. Sorry to the cat guys and well Polaris go away 😂
I know Yamaha makes the 4stroke motors for arctic cat but what about the 2smoke?
Cat makes there own 2 strokes c-tec engines
Was a great battle until you said “fun per dollar”. I know you guys are a big fan of Polaris but i wanna see everything the sleds has to offer. Not fun per dollar that’s just an excuse to give points to the Polaris. What sled actually has more to offer? Looks like I’m finishing this battle myself. Pathetic
Eric Thompson mate they do alot more with ski doo then polaris. In finland the doo costs 16k€ brand new while the polaris xc costs 13k€. So the fun per dollar does matter.
why are you guys all about speed?? why not due reviews on economy class sleds that people can afford. do a review on skidoos new 600efi
I've been hearing reports of Polaris have running issues? They should of had a catagory for maintenance. Almost everyone I know that rides polaris and skidoo sleds admits the polaris is a better ride.?
Nice 👍🏻
What about Lynx? Here in Finland we drive those a lot.
I have seen them. They keep up well with Americans, seems like they aren't as ridiculous like 1100cc turbo mania
He is horned over Polaris because most sled shows are biased, like this one AND Polaris throws the most money at these review shows.
Have the indy but really i think its all personal choice . I may ride one way but the artic cat riders ride another way same for ski-doo. I have ridden the cat and to be quite honest i love my indy but i did enjoy the cat very much as well. the ski-doo not yet but would like to see. I find the two i have ridden to be equal in just about every way with only a few minor differences. Let you know how the indy does in a two hour 40 min race later this year. Win nope but keep up with the pack o hell ya.
Try a higher model
Baloney!
Maybe you can do shoot outs by horsepower so Yamaha can compete.
Would the Polaris 600 be a good first sled?
Depends on your experience around snowmobiles and how much money you want to dump into this sport....I would buy an older used Polaris 440, 500, or 600.
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They never pick the cat, also, you never ever see any arctic cat advertisements in their shows, or hardly ever anyway. Too bad, and very unfair! Every year it's the same thing, if they just change a little this or that they could possibly be at the top. Wow, really!
Ski. Poo fan boy
Didn’t even watch the video but I’m sure I’m rite when I guess Polaris wins and cat is last . This guy must be paid by Polaris . For all that watch these videos for honest info don’t ... cat is an awesome sled I own one and my friends own skidoo and Polaris . All the new sleds are great pick the one you like best as they are all machines and at some point will break . Snow trax do your selfs a favor and quit favoring Polaris we all can see it and it’s getting old .
J K EVERYTHING RC actually they are sponsored by ski doo and Yamaha not even artic cat and Polaris, Polaris just has the better chassis then artic cat by far
So you're critizising a video you didn't even watch... even tho polaris didn't even win...
I saw this thumbnail, and said to myself... self, just hit up the comment section, to find out if ST is bias for anybody but Cat.
I rode a 600 all weekend and if they had wings they would fly....make a long story short I have nothing bad to say about 600's
Squeeze the flipper!
Polaris is complete trash
Lol. So is every person named "Skyler". Sorry. It's just true.
That's just crazy. No new snowmobiles are trash. Polaris new Indys are awesome, except the 850 is only for prepay
I only buy 600s anything over a 600 is a waste 800s are for people who hang out at a bar and tell stories
did this guy just say "ska-doo" like a hundred times? It's a ski doo. Skee-doo. Like skiing. Get it?
Why the fuck do they hate on arctic cat
All I have to say is you can tell skidoo foots the bill
Yeah still means Arctic Cat is still almost as good as Ski-Doo.
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