I overloaded my Africa Twin the same way and it made it an absolute PIG on double track. I had to slow down so much for corners it wasn't any fun to ride anymore.
Interesting video. Almost refreshing to see someone questioning all the ad ons for a change. I've had my t7 for about a year now and the only things I've changed is a barrett slip on muffler, purely for a bit nicer note, and I swap between the original pirellis and motoz tractionators depending on my destination. I do have soft panniers for longer trips but definitely do not take them on every ride. I personally think too many people get caught up in the idea of trying to build the perfect bike, instead of just getting out there and enjoying riding.
Recently sold my factory racks and hard side cases and now starting to find some lighter luggage options. I'm no hardcore rider but looking to shave some weight as well, very good and informational content here. Seen you at the T7 forum. Thanks for sharing. You earned a subsriber here today.
Brilliant video I just got a T7 for my dad an I to share something positive for him after his stage 3 cancer prostate diagnosis, I was out on it on Friday an I'd class myself as a reluctant green laner, I was enjoying the T7 that much that within 30 mins I wandered onto a green lane I'd done on the 300 Rally when I didn't enjoy it an I found it easier on the T7 than I did on the 300 an didn't notice any of the top heaviness, mines just got an Akro can on her at the mo an a Rally seat I'm planning on just Barkbusters an a skid plate. When I posted on Horizons I got a raft of messages from people saying the T7 was to top heavy. I didn't notice that recently I was watching Pavlin on Motorcycle Adventures he had taken his crash bars off as he didn't like the feel interesting stuff :) How are you getting on with your AXP? :)
Good luck with your Dad,, tell him to quit carbs and sugar completely. He can kick on for sure 🙂 ... great stuff you can both hopefully enjoy the bike going forward. Thanks mate ;-)
Great topic! I've ridden 63000 km on mine and I fell 100 times and crashed once at speed. Never had crash bars and no damage to the bike so far. Only the hand guards. Some who fall with crash bars shows the evidence of a saved bike by the scratches on the bars. Still, since the bike is wider with the bars they are of course more prone to reach the ground. Well, that's my experience at least. Cheers mate, great video. 👊🏻✊🏻
Hello mate, thanks for visiting my channel. I’m like you, dropped it a few times at a standstill, and once on the move and yes scratched my crash bars. I did wonder if my barkbusters would take the impact before anything else, depends on the level of the ground I suppose 🤣👍🏼 … might remove them for that extra weight loss and take that risk 😅
Glad you put this info out there. I see so many turning the T7 into a heavy ADV bike that rivals the big bikes. I don't think this bike was intended to be loaded down with gear and mods. It's bare bones for a reason, to go farther down that gnarly trail without the headache of wrestling a bear. The big picture is, we all do what we want and nothing is wrong with it as long as it makes you happy/comfortable. The mods on my T7 is quite a short list because It was to replace my dirt bike.... Suspension Upgrade, Bash plate, ADV Spec tail rack (mostly for lifting purposes) and Slip on exhaust can and Tusk Traverse bags for tools and such. About the only other thing I can see is folding hand levers. Oh I got the nav mount and wiring, not sure if that counts as a mod.....CRAP, I remembered that last weekend I added the 6.1 gallon fuel tank. This bike is IMO, a single track weapon even in stock form, with better tires, I was able to have a blast on tight single track with deep loose sand. I can't wait to hit the trails again to test the new suspension on the road.
BigDave, thanks mate ... it's interesting how we all customise like we do, my reason for my changes were (are) exactly like what you're saying in that I'm wanting that option to ride that gnarly trail with ease. Fully loaded I'd be second guessing it and possibly talking myself out of it, and there's no adventure in that! I came from the roads and never considered off road riding until I heard about where all the real fun was without the worry of speeding fines etc. Now I'm in and amongst it I'm finding that in fact I'm more enduro (in my head) than I thought. Sand frightens the hell out of me at first and then after ten minutes I'm searching for it and deliberately going through soft sand in stead of the easier line, it's addictive! Weird stuff haha.
@@TheRiderGuider Man we are one in the same. I came from a ZX14R and ZH2 to the ADV life in 2020-ish. You are absolutely right. There is more adrenalin in ADV riding than going 200 mph on a street rocket. I hated sand also, at first, but our trail system has tons of it and now I won't even shy away from taking my 1290 SA-R on those trails. It's not too fun, but great skill building activity. Now the T7, shoot I will eat the sand up with that bad boy, especially with the Motoz Desert H/T tires. Again you are spot on, this stuff is super addictive.
I was about to comment, "you should change that original chimney, you'd lose a lot of weight this way!" and then you've mentioned you are about to replace it! And you pronounced Akrapovič perfectly! I can confirm that since I am from Slovenia, a country where Akrapovič exhausts are made! :) Great bike you have man, cheers!
Cheers to you too Motoric 🙂 and THANK YOU for confirming the pronunciation of Akrapovič 👍 ... that full system will be a fantastic replacement for the original.
I went through the same process and more: Removed one disc and caliper of the front brake. For single riding off road that works great. Easier to lift the front wheel. Best to also change your cylinder on the bars too to keep a good feel in the brakes. I found a brembo 14mm one for a 100 Euro. And I took off those crash bars. It’s 5 kg high up. The T7 is so slim, it lands on the barkbusters.
Awesome mate! Not gonna go single disc however I am very close to removing the crash bars. I’ve had a few say exactly what you have regarding the barkbusters keeping it off the ground. It’s feeling great for the weight loss and I just had it flashed and Dyno’d.
@@silverdale3207 A few guys have broken or scratched the plastics, but I have not heard of a situation where crash bars would have saved major damage to radiator or engine in a way that stopped the bike from continuing. If it has happened, it would be extremely rare. The Tenere is way more crash proof than say the cylinder heads on a GS, or radiator on a Tuareg or Africa Twin.
This is something I am really interested in. It is a trade off, exactly how much damage it takes to stop a ride continuing, against a few potential scratches, with the benefit of a lighter bike. It’s down to the individual and their needs I know BUT how many are needlessly spending on crash bars? I think I did. I am now happy without.
@@TheRiderGuider I'm not to worried about scratches but as someone who's badly bent the radiator on a dirt bike in an unintentional dismount, I don't want to be stuck in the middle of nowhere with a leaking radiator so am happy to put up with a little extra weight, can also strap a 5L drybag either side for spares or tools to help keep the weight forward and low. Would love to ride light but it's an ADV bike at the end of the day.
A big factor I have found is not just shaving weight, but where that weight is located. Simple enough concept, but the higher up it is, the worse it gets. Adding a heavier bash plate I actually found made the bike a little more bottom heavy in a good way given how tall it is. I suspect my crash bars removed would be a big improvement, but I’m sticking with them (especially after a couple drops on some irregular rocks that would have landed on my engine casing without my full HEED bars). If riding conditions permit, easily the biggest difference you will feel is running the bike with as little fuel as possible. I sometimes do technical trails in a forest trail network we’re you can ride for hours but not actually cover a lot of miles. In that case, I start my day with 1/2 a tank of fuel or less. Massive difference
@@TheRiderGuider You could look into an plastic acerbis tank, significant weight save and it also is almost the highest point on the bike so it is very significant.
I can see your point, I like everything I've put on mine and will keep it that way, but this is why I got me a KLX300 for the tougher off-road action, yeah not as powerful as most bikes but this little guy has taken me down the rabbit hole and back. This is the ultimate diet for me.
Wonderful video and perspective. I have returned many purchased items (i.e., tail rack, etc.) because they were made out of heavy 308 Stainless Steel and over-engineered to the max! Nothing goes on my bike except 6061-T6 aluminum hardware and, to a much lesser extent, some titanium parts. The hoop strength on tubular aluminum is good enough for most of my needed applications. I definitely need to continue working to reduce the weight of my T700.
I am a manufacturing engineer and worked most of my career as a welding engineer. Nothing is off limits when it comes to reducing weight. I have even thought about making a 15-3-3-3 Ti frame for the bike. So, I appreciate other like-minded individuals. Best of luck to you! Alan
Some more suggestions: - light weight Haan wheels with a 3" rim at the rear allows to mount more narrow wheels. You can get them in a tubeless version, too. - 520 chain/sprocket set with a ZF aluminium/steel rear sprocket - Acerbis tank, which on it's own it lighter than the stock one. - single disk front break conversion. Once you have changed to full Akra and maybe a different air filter with better breathing think about an ECU remap. Greetings from Germany, Bernd 💙💛🏁🤛🏼
Love these suggestions Bernd. Thank you! I’m actually approaching four years of ownership, and at this point a lot of bike owners start to consider a new bike. I have been too, but have instead decided to give it a whole bike rebuild and service and freshen it up. I’ve done the exhaust system now and ECU which has given me some great low down gains. The tubeless Hahn wheels have been tempting me for a while, and I’m due chain and sprockets. All these, along with the Acerbis tank will cost me less than changing the bike and I get it to a great specification. I better get saving mate 🤣👍🏼👍🏼
Some goes, and some comes ! I went the SC Projects full titanium exhaust for loss of approx 5+ Kg and then had the bike flashed and dyno'd, but have now added a 25 litre Safari Tank as I plan an across Australia trip followed by a lap of Tassie. Like others I thought about ditching the hard panniers but security is foremost so they stay. Yes the bike has picked up a bit of pork, but it is still 60 Kg lighter than my SuperTenere being ridden in the same terrain (Gibb River Road and Gt Central Highway). Not planning to do more than ride formed dirt roads I don't plan on getting in too deep as I will be travelling solo. Light weight everything is essential.
NICE, that tank won't affect it much especially if you don't always top it right up but a great addition. As for the panniers, can't go wrong, at least you can remove and refit for when you're just doing day trips etc. Good job, cheers.
I was no different to almost every other Yamaha T7 owner when I bought it ... I followed up the bike purchase by adding every possible accessory and in my opinion it completely changed the factory feel. After two years, here is my ownership experience and what I'm now doing to rectify the issues I've created. I'm now removing or changing the parts and accessories I added, with the intention of getting the weight back down to where it was, so I can get the bike back to where it should be in the handling, a lithe athletic 700 cc off road weapon that I can also use for longer rides. Not a heavy lump that feels like it's restricting my off road ability. Check out what I removed, and also what I swapped for lighter alternatives in my quest to reduce my carb laden fat T7! #YAMAHATENERE700 #TENERE700REVIEW #T7 #TENERE700 #theriderguider #RIDERGUIDER HARD PACKED ADV ua-cam.com/users/Mordy68featured SOUTH AUSTRALIAN OUTBACK MOTORCYLE ADVENTURES ua-cam.com/channels/CilQwe10AfsnAvtcxMGogw.html
I've a similar setup and am also considering getting rid of the Yamaha crash bars but I'm not that confident off-road yet. If I do get rid of them I'll definitely add R&G engine case covers. If you do get rid of them I'd be very interested to know what they weigh. The heavy duty Yamaha bash plate and tool box will stay. It might be heavy but it is low and allows me to keep my tools low and on the bike regardless of whether I'm going for a ride through the hills, up to the Flinders Ranges or beyond. The centre stand will also stay because of convenience and when you need it you really need it. At some point I might try to find a lighter centre stand. A Wings muffler has replaced the stock item, saving a few kg, improving performance and adding some character. A tubeless wheel set and a Lithium battery are on my wish list awaiting funding but they're low priority to be honest.
Hi Luke, yeh it's good if you can get some of the weight off if not all, every bit helps but going up the Flinders I'd definitely be loading up, I get that for sure 👍 ... I'm looking at the Haan wheelset just now, about $2800 though 🥴 I'll let you know what the crash bars weigh, I'm gonna take them off to weigh them initially and then see if it's worthwhile.
@@TheRiderGuider Cheers. It's an interesting problem to solve. I've had my fork and shock springs changed and both ends revalved to suit my current setup with soft panniers fitted. If I start taking weight out of the bike the suspension will firm up a bit so will have to keep an eye on that. The Haan wheel set is the one that is on my wishlist. Helps that you can get it fairly easily here in Oz.
Crash bars removed. Bathroom scales suggest my T7 is now about 4.8kg lighter. My eyes tell me it is a whole lot better looking 😃 and the added bonus is that there's a lot more access in and around the engine.
@@luket7rider YEP - was in Coast the other day and Iain looked them up, about 5kgs. Are the mounting bolts the same ones that go back in afterwards? 😃 Also check out the Acerbis engine case protection too mate.
@@TheRiderGuider Two of the bolts (17mm heads) go back in place, one each side into the front of the cylinder head. The remainder, as far as I can tell, stay with the crash bars. Same for a couple of spacers. Thanks for the tip on Acerbis engine case protection.
Pretty much the same story with me. I swapped the slipon to titanium HP-Corse (oem headers still), Removed the center stand, Swapped to lithium battery, I have the heavyduties enduro Crash Bars that only weigh 4kg total and I'm running an aluminium bash plate from HEED. With the weight savings and addons on my bike I think I'm pretty close to stock weight even though I have those light crash bars to protect the engine block. The crash bars are also very low on the bike so that helps with the top heavy nature of the T7. I would still like to do the DECAT with swapping the headers but as the bike is no longer road legal after that I'm a bit worried about traveling to certain countries like Germany etc..
Mate I might go back to lower engine bars, something about rocky creek beds that scares my engine cases. As for the header and can we're lucky here in that the cops generally don't show much interest in people unless they're riding like idiots, and getting overseas from this island is a rare occurrence 😁
I'm always looking to increase the skills yes. As for fitness, I'm good to go at the moment, as a runner and mountainbiker I keep on top of that side but have to sacrifice T7 time to train ... fine balance haha.
I installed side bars which are about 7kg and I feel that front part became heavier. I don’t think extra weight it is about fitness, it is about mass. Mass is about physics which cannot be avoided
Std wheels do not have bead lock so tire will come off wheel in curves at speed at low pressure. I replaced mine with Hahn TL wheels. OFF_THE -Road was great source.
Sam, THANKS mate - I currently have a pair of Hahn wheels in a 'basket' ... can't quite hit the spend button yet hahhaha. What size did you go for and did you go tubeless? Thanks for the info too ;-)
G'day Neil, thanks for the video. In 2018, I had the Tubliss Tire System professionally fitted to a Honda CRF250RLA. Three months later, I had an off that was directly related to a failure of that system; and led to a full shoulder reconstruction. IMHO, it's the worst accessory I've ever added to a bike. Like you, I've a T7, and consider it the best all-round bike available. I've been playing with the idea of converting to tubeless but, if doing so, will bite the bullet and go down the expensive path of a dedicated wheel set.
Hello Alf, thanks for your input mate (I'm pretty sure I've seen you on here before so thanks AGAIN for watching my stuff) ... the wheel set - YES, it seems you're not the only one to now be suggesting this, Tubliss isn't the way, a dedicated tubeless wheel set will really liven it up. The overall feel of the bike will be awesome when I've done it all I reckon ... cheers 🙂
Mate a fantastic video with a different spin , I just went down in bike size , from my XT 660 and Husky 630 to a Honda CRF 300 Rally “ what a fantastic light weight bike to throw around the bush , my mates were amazing how fast I rode it ( as I waited for them 😂😂😂 ) A wise ADV rider once said NO ONE COMPLAINS ABOUT SMALLER AND LIGHTER JUST BIGGER AND HEAVIER. 👍☝️
hello. Many accessories and customizations. They seem to perform their function effectively. Thank you for your wonderful presentation. safety and health. and peace. Thank you my friend.
When I add myself to any bike, that's the most carbs they will ever have, and it's way too many. 160kg (353lb) 😂 Damn, I feel my weight crushes every bike like crazy, and it's not a good feeling, even when I have my regular weight (140kg/308lb) it's still way too much. On that note, which shocks/springs (spring rate) front and back would you recommend for me?
@@Gwiedert It's quite controversial doing this on the T7 for some people, a big heavy bike for just one (even larger) disk. I reckon if I was just off-road I'd consider it as I'm more a user of the rear brake anyway. Unfortunately the authorities would question it here in the event of a vehicle check.
KLR guy here that will buy a second hand T700 at some point. I think what I got from the video is to not ride a T700 before I add all the accessories that I want to it. I'll never know how good stock is supposed to feel!
Chris, thanks for watching, either way you will never be disappointed mate, the KLR is a great bike but even a fully laden T7 will massively impress you. This is my first proper foray in to loose surfaces and it's surprised me that I'm finding I want to now edge towards a more enduro style of riding, thankfully the T7 (once I lighten it up some more) should be able to tick that box for me 🙂
That’s basically what I did. I rode a buddys bike that was basically stock before I bought mine that came with crash guards, tail rack, skid plate. My bike actually feels nimbler. But my bike also has a seat concepts low seat on it and that may cause me to sit in a more aggressive position. Not sure. But I can tell you, I’m not too worried about the weight at the moment, it feels great.
I’ve got a T12 that I’m going through the exact same thing with, really looking forward to seeing how you deal with the weight on weight off thing , my bike is fantastic with everything off it .
Hi mate , biggest difference you will ever feel on any bike....the Wheels! ..the gyro aspect of the mass say half the weight of them both ..boom !!not going to be cheap, but easy compensates the extras you will need to put on , cheers mike
Mike, another comment suggesting dedicated tubeless wheel set, haha you will break my bank 😂... but YES - I'm going to go that way if I want the bike to perform like it should. THANKS for the input mate 👍
If you want to go tubeless, please replace your rims, so you get the real deal. The crash bars, kill them with fire, not needed... I think you done all the easy and safe stuff. Removing a disc break, or removing ABS fully is not worth it, but that's at least about 3 Kg's.. Good luck :), will be interesting to see the final weight with a full tank.
Hi Marcus, YES there's been a couple of comments re new wheels, it certainly appeals to me if not my wallet 🤣 ... as for the crash bars, I reckon you're absolutely correct on them too, I've only dropped it from a standstill (slippy under foot) apart from once, I'm less concerned for the plastics now, and the AXP bashplate protects the water pump. Next up, engine bars are for sale haha. MIGHT even look at the Acerbis tank, it's lighter and up high and that could make the bike feel more alert if I still (under normal conditions) stick around 15 litres in it. Cheers mate 😉
@@TheRiderGuider I'm thinking of getting just a narrower set of rims and stronger spokes. But keep the hem hubs and just change the rim. But I would love a complete set, as that would be the easiest way to really use the tires for what you will be doing at the moment. Just rims and spokes weren't that bad, but complete sets..... FFFFF I'f im lucky I might be able to source a set of complete OEM hubs with discs, abs ring and all. Then I just need to cough up the dough for the rims and spokes. I fell over and crashed so many times, no bars or nothing. Just cracked the Yamaha emblem on the right, and off course a lot of scratches. But 500mic decal kit helps a lot to lessen the scars from falls and stuff. And in my case, the GPMucci skid plate probably saved me some plastics too 🤪
@@allthingsenduro I'd love a second set of rims. Keep my originals for the commute/road trips with maybe a nice long lasting 50/50 tyre and then when I'm going to go off road - straight swap over to gnarly knobbly rubber. I'm researching some tubeless rims now mate.
I went with the Akrapovic header, Camel enduro bend connection through to the Scorpion can. 6kgs saved over standard. It’s amazing … ua-cam.com/video/AE8h_l2PIo8/v-deo.html
Yours sounds like a weapon mate, Ohlins too 🤩 ... nice. So, similar thing happening, I just ordered the enduro bend Camel ADV and Scorpion can. The can will be up high, perfect. Can't wait.
I just to add anything that is not going to add the the handing of the bike I was gifted with a 38in inseam and have never been on a bike that felt big to me. Less is more on a bike like this. I've don't the same to my YZ250X WR250F CRF1000 and now this bike....
Definitely happening mate. I initially thought of not doing it, but what’s the point of spending all that cash on the hardware and then not getting the best out of it!? I agree. Can’t wait to get it sorted 😎👍🏼
Yeh mate, I'm mostly doing the local trips at the moment and I think when I bought it I didn't know where it would lead, it's opened up a whole new yearning for something even more weapon-like such as a WR450 or a Husqy 701 maybe? A 701 would tick some boxes for sure - only weighs about 150Kgs (I think) but it's also capable of going long.
I'm only a smidge over 70 kgs, the standard suspension has been fine so far for my weight, a few rides experimenting with the settings were all that I needed. Not discounting something far more exotic at some point but it's something I'll do once I've started to feel some wear. The Akra fits mine, it's a 2020 👍
YEH mate, thanks for watching, as I've increased my off roading I've definitely had more urge to go the single trails ... might end up with an enduro bike at some point too! 😃
You haven't mentioned a chain guide which I think is is essential if you are using the Tenere for what it was designed and built to do. Amazed that Yamaha doesn't put in a chain guide and radiator guard as standard in the factory.
Hi Luke, yeh I was of the opinion the snatchy throttle was a myth as I generally smooth out with clutch use, always have but this definitely improved things with just off the throttle riding. SkyTrek up at Willow Springs? I REALLY need to try that! Was it a challenge on the T7?
Never once mention the importanceofweight location. Obviously the higher the weight reduction the better. Reducing the weight of the engine bash plate i doubt would make any significant benefit. Its getting the weight of the top thats the issue, many owner complain about this
We're not gonna be able to change that tank location mate, that's pretty much what causes that top heavy feel along with what is a tall-ish engine in a dual purpose frame. Agree that the bashplate won't make a difference to lifting it, but overall it's a nimble thing again now.
It also shows literally how much weight can be saved, the fact I got it back to what it was when I bought it new but also still have a few accessories. Very little compromise, even though I have some additions it weighs close to a standard bike now. Actually now it also has a titanium header and Scorpion exhaust can it's lighter still. Cheers.
The Tenere 700 has tubeless tyres as standard already, so what you’re saying isn’t accurate. They’re just tubeless tyres fitted with tubes, so the weight saving is in the removal of the tubes as the tyres aren't changed. The tubes are quite heavy, even more so on mine as they’re HD tubes. I reckon my rear tube weighs at least a couple of pounds. I’m not sure there would be a significant difference in the weight of a tubeless rim compared to a tubed type.
Do you know that a ridercan be easily 40-140lbs lighter than another rider? Drink a liter of Seltzer and you are already 2lbs heavier so going nuts about accessories' weight is not very useful
I can’t stand the whole adv bike bolt-ons “thing” - loads of short fat blokes on huge GSs that must be almost the size and weight of a car - with knobblies. Who are they trying to kid? I got a T700 and everyone says “what have you put on it?” and “what crash protection are you putting on?” I’m not. I’ve put Anlas Capra X tyres, heated grips, GPS on the micro rail, luggage rack (minimalist job), tail tidy and LED indicators (the latter two just for styling). For me that’s all you need. Keep it simple. Keep it light. Scrape the side panels? Just get some more and fit the scraped ones for off road. Put it this way - look at the T700s on the Yamaha off road experience. What’ve they got? Knobblies. That’s it.
Ha Chewie, it's where all you true blue Aussie blokes grew up, in the paddocks and scrub, blasting around. If Mrs Chewie were to allow a second steed for the loose surfaces, what would you go for?
Haha you mean like this one? … 👍🏼 YAMAHA TENERE 700 FULL EXHAUST SYSTEM UPGRADE, SHOW, AND TEST. ua-cam.com/video/AE8h_l2PIo8/v-deo.html ECU and Dyno 14th Feb. can’t wait!
@@TheRiderGuider Looking forward to seeing the results of the flash. I'm considering it but I'm not sure about flashing back to stock when bringing it into the dealer since I think it voids the warranty. I still need to do some homework
@@Josh-ew1le Have a chat with your dealer, I reckon they wouldn't knock you back if you needed any warranty work. To be fair there's not much can go wrong with these bikes anyway. How young is your T7? Mine is over two years now, however I wouldn't have actually considered the warranty side when thinking about tuning it.
I’ve managed to take 55 lbs off of my tenere…by literally cutting carbs down to 10-15g/day for the last two months.
My tenere appreciates it.
Hahahhaha - more protein works mate ;-)
EXACTLY. FINALLY SOMEBODY SEES THE DEAL.
I overloaded my Africa Twin the same way and it made it an absolute PIG on double track. I had to slow down so much for corners it wasn't any fun to ride anymore.
I'm hoping a lot more learn from our lessons mate :-) CHEERS
Interesting video. Almost refreshing to see someone questioning all the ad ons for a change. I've had my t7 for about a year now and the only things I've changed is a barrett slip on muffler, purely for a bit nicer note, and I swap between the original pirellis and motoz tractionators depending on my destination. I do have soft panniers for longer trips but definitely do not take them on every ride.
I personally think too many people get caught up in the idea of trying to build the perfect bike, instead of just getting out there and enjoying riding.
A lot to be said for keeping it as is mate yes. Heavy standard exhaust aside, I think a lot of what we change needs some decent consideration 🙂👍🏼
Recently sold my factory racks and hard side cases and now starting to find some lighter luggage options. I'm no hardcore rider but looking to shave some weight as well, very good and informational content here. Seen you at the T7 forum. Thanks for sharing. You earned a subsriber here today.
THANK YOU Philip, nice to have you on board :-)
Brilliant video I just got a T7 for my dad an I to share something positive for him after his stage 3 cancer prostate diagnosis, I was out on it on Friday an I'd class myself as a reluctant green laner, I was enjoying the T7 that much that within 30 mins I wandered onto a green lane I'd done on the 300 Rally when I didn't enjoy it an I found it easier on the T7 than I did on the 300 an didn't notice any of the top heaviness, mines just got an Akro can on her at the mo an a Rally seat I'm planning on just Barkbusters an a skid plate.
When I posted on Horizons I got a raft of messages from people saying the T7 was to top heavy. I didn't notice that recently I was watching Pavlin on Motorcycle Adventures he had taken his crash bars off as he didn't like the feel interesting stuff :)
How are you getting on with your AXP? :)
Good luck with your Dad,, tell him to quit carbs and sugar completely. He can kick on for sure 🙂 ... great stuff you can both hopefully enjoy the bike going forward. Thanks mate ;-)
@@TheRiderGuider thanks mate 👍appreciate the reply :)
Great topic! I've ridden 63000 km on mine and I fell 100 times and crashed once at speed. Never had crash bars and no damage to the bike so far. Only the hand guards. Some who fall with crash bars shows the evidence of a saved bike by the scratches on the bars. Still, since the bike is wider with the bars they are of course more prone to reach the ground. Well, that's my experience at least. Cheers mate, great video. 👊🏻✊🏻
Hello mate, thanks for visiting my channel. I’m like you, dropped it a few times at a standstill, and once on the move and yes scratched my crash bars. I did wonder if my barkbusters would take the impact before anything else, depends on the level of the ground I suppose 🤣👍🏼 … might remove them for that extra weight loss and take that risk 😅
@@TheRiderGuider It is a risk for sure. But so far I have been right or just lucky :)
@@NomadSweden a bit of both, I'm gonna do it! 🙂
You are the main reason crash bars were not on my list of things to get. Thanks for that vid.
@@BigDaveTALKS good man Dave 🙂
Glad you put this info out there. I see so many turning the T7 into a heavy ADV bike that rivals the big bikes. I don't think this bike was intended to be loaded down with gear and mods. It's bare bones for a reason, to go farther down that gnarly trail without the headache of wrestling a bear. The big picture is, we all do what we want and nothing is wrong with it as long as it makes you happy/comfortable.
The mods on my T7 is quite a short list because It was to replace my dirt bike.... Suspension Upgrade, Bash plate, ADV Spec tail rack (mostly for lifting purposes) and Slip on exhaust can and Tusk Traverse bags for tools and such. About the only other thing I can see is folding hand levers. Oh I got the nav mount and wiring, not sure if that counts as a mod.....CRAP, I remembered that last weekend I added the 6.1 gallon fuel tank.
This bike is IMO, a single track weapon even in stock form, with better tires, I was able to have a blast on tight single track with deep loose sand. I can't wait to hit the trails again to test the new suspension on the road.
BigDave, thanks mate ... it's interesting how we all customise like we do, my reason for my changes were (are) exactly like what you're saying in that I'm wanting that option to ride that gnarly trail with ease. Fully loaded I'd be second guessing it and possibly talking myself out of it, and there's no adventure in that! I came from the roads and never considered off road riding until I heard about where all the real fun was without the worry of speeding fines etc. Now I'm in and amongst it I'm finding that in fact I'm more enduro (in my head) than I thought. Sand frightens the hell out of me at first and then after ten minutes I'm searching for it and deliberately going through soft sand in stead of the easier line, it's addictive! Weird stuff haha.
@@TheRiderGuider Man we are one in the same. I came from a ZX14R and ZH2 to the ADV life in 2020-ish. You are absolutely right. There is more adrenalin in ADV riding than going 200 mph on a street rocket. I hated sand also, at first, but our trail system has tons of it and now I won't even shy away from taking my 1290 SA-R on those trails. It's not too fun, but great skill building activity. Now the T7, shoot I will eat the sand up with that bad boy, especially with the Motoz Desert H/T tires. Again you are spot on, this stuff is super addictive.
@@BigDaveTALKS awesome. I’ll keep an eye on your adventures 😀👍🏼
@@TheRiderGuider hey thanks bud and I will do the same.
I was about to comment, "you should change that original chimney, you'd lose a lot of weight this way!" and then you've mentioned you are about to replace it!
And you pronounced Akrapovič perfectly! I can confirm that since I am from Slovenia, a country where Akrapovič exhausts are made! :) Great bike you have man, cheers!
Cheers to you too Motoric 🙂 and THANK YOU for confirming the pronunciation of Akrapovič 👍 ... that full system will be a fantastic replacement for the original.
I went through the same process and more: Removed one disc and caliper of the front brake. For single riding off road that works great. Easier to lift the front wheel. Best to also change your cylinder on the bars too to keep a good feel in the brakes. I found a brembo 14mm one for a 100 Euro. And I took off those crash bars. It’s 5 kg high up. The T7 is so slim, it lands on the barkbusters.
Awesome mate! Not gonna go single disc however I am very close to removing the crash bars. I’ve had a few say exactly what you have regarding the barkbusters keeping it off the ground. It’s feeling great for the weight loss and I just had it flashed and Dyno’d.
The gravel rash on a mates T7 would tend to disagree with that statement.
@@silverdale3207 A few guys have broken or scratched the plastics, but I have not heard of a situation where crash bars would have saved major damage to radiator or engine in a way that stopped the bike from continuing. If it has happened, it would be extremely rare. The Tenere is way more crash proof than say the cylinder heads on a GS, or radiator on a Tuareg or Africa Twin.
This is something I am really interested in. It is a trade off, exactly how much damage it takes to stop a ride continuing, against a few potential scratches, with the benefit of a lighter bike. It’s down to the individual and their needs I know BUT how many are needlessly spending on crash bars? I think I did. I am now happy without.
@@TheRiderGuider I'm not to worried about scratches but as someone who's badly bent the radiator on a dirt bike in an unintentional dismount, I don't want to be stuck in the middle of nowhere with a leaking radiator so am happy to put up with a little extra weight, can also strap a 5L drybag either side for spares or tools to help keep the weight forward and low. Would love to ride light but it's an ADV bike at the end of the day.
A big factor I have found is not just shaving weight, but where that weight is located. Simple enough concept, but the higher up it is, the worse it gets. Adding a heavier bash plate I actually found made the bike a little more bottom heavy in a good way given how tall it is. I suspect my crash bars removed would be a big improvement, but I’m sticking with them (especially after a couple drops on some irregular rocks that would have landed on my engine casing without my full HEED bars).
If riding conditions permit, easily the biggest difference you will feel is running the bike with as little fuel as possible. I sometimes do technical trails in a forest trail network we’re you can ride for hours but not actually cover a lot of miles. In that case, I start my day with 1/2 a tank of fuel or less. Massive difference
YEH that's a great point, I do tend to top up my fuel even though I'm heading out for less than 100kms.
@@TheRiderGuider You could look into an plastic acerbis tank, significant weight save and it also is almost the highest point on the bike so it is very significant.
Just been discussing this elsewhere (on a Facebook page). The Acerbis tank is a string possibility for my next upgrade 😎
I can see your point, I like everything I've put on mine and will keep it that way, but this is why I got me a KLX300 for the tougher off-road action, yeah not as powerful as most bikes but this little guy has taken me down the rabbit hole and back. This is the ultimate diet for me.
Absolutely feel I should maybe have done the same, a CRF300 or similar will give me some fun I'm sure. Thanks for commenting mate.
Wonderful video and perspective. I have returned many purchased items (i.e., tail rack, etc.) because they were made out of heavy 308 Stainless Steel and over-engineered to the max! Nothing goes on my bike except 6061-T6 aluminum hardware and, to a much lesser extent, some titanium parts. The hoop strength on tubular aluminum is good enough for most of my needed applications. I definitely need to continue working to reduce the weight of my T700.
Alan, thanks mate, I've also started looking at even more options, such as titanium parts/nuts/bolts etc, interesting to see just how far we could go.
I am a manufacturing engineer and worked most of my career as a welding engineer. Nothing is off limits when it comes to reducing weight. I have even thought about making a 15-3-3-3 Ti frame for the bike. So, I appreciate other like-minded individuals. Best of luck to you! Alan
Some more suggestions:
- light weight Haan wheels with a 3" rim at the rear allows to mount more narrow wheels. You can get them in a tubeless version, too.
- 520 chain/sprocket set with a ZF aluminium/steel rear sprocket
- Acerbis tank, which on it's own it lighter than the stock one.
- single disk front break conversion.
Once you have changed to full Akra and maybe a different air filter with better breathing think about an ECU remap.
Greetings from Germany,
Bernd 💙💛🏁🤛🏼
Love these suggestions Bernd. Thank you! I’m actually approaching four years of ownership, and at this point a lot of bike owners start to consider a new bike. I have been too, but have instead decided to give it a whole bike rebuild and service and freshen it up. I’ve done the exhaust system now and ECU which has given me some great low down gains. The tubeless Hahn wheels have been tempting me for a while, and I’m due chain and sprockets. All these, along with the Acerbis tank will cost me less than changing the bike and I get it to a great specification. I better get saving mate 🤣👍🏼👍🏼
Some goes, and some comes ! I went the SC Projects full titanium exhaust for loss of approx 5+ Kg and then had the bike flashed and dyno'd, but have now added a 25 litre Safari Tank as I plan an across Australia trip followed by a lap of Tassie. Like others I thought about ditching the hard panniers but security is foremost so they stay. Yes the bike has picked up a bit of pork, but it is still 60 Kg lighter than my SuperTenere being ridden in the same terrain (Gibb River Road and Gt Central Highway). Not planning to do more than ride formed dirt roads I don't plan on getting in too deep as I will be travelling solo. Light weight everything is essential.
NICE, that tank won't affect it much especially if you don't always top it right up but a great addition. As for the panniers, can't go wrong, at least you can remove and refit for when you're just doing day trips etc. Good job, cheers.
I was no different to almost every other Yamaha T7 owner when I bought it ... I followed up the bike purchase by adding every possible accessory and in my opinion it completely changed the factory feel. After two years, here is my ownership experience and what I'm now doing to rectify the issues I've created. I'm now removing or changing the parts and accessories I added, with the intention of getting the weight back down to where it was, so I can get the bike back to where it should be in the handling, a lithe athletic 700 cc off road weapon that I can also use for longer rides. Not a heavy lump that feels like it's restricting my off road ability. Check out what I removed, and also what I swapped for lighter alternatives in my quest to reduce my carb laden fat T7!
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The only thing i put on my t7 was engine and radiator/ ferring crash bars. They have already paid themselves off 4x over.
I've a similar setup and am also considering getting rid of the Yamaha crash bars but I'm not that confident off-road yet. If I do get rid of them I'll definitely add R&G engine case covers. If you do get rid of them I'd be very interested to know what they weigh.
The heavy duty Yamaha bash plate and tool box will stay. It might be heavy but it is low and allows me to keep my tools low and on the bike regardless of whether I'm going for a ride through the hills, up to the Flinders Ranges or beyond. The centre stand will also stay because of convenience and when you need it you really need it. At some point I might try to find a lighter centre stand.
A Wings muffler has replaced the stock item, saving a few kg, improving performance and adding some character. A tubeless wheel set and a Lithium battery are on my wish list awaiting funding but they're low priority to be honest.
Hi Luke, yeh it's good if you can get some of the weight off if not all, every bit helps but going up the Flinders I'd definitely be loading up, I get that for sure 👍 ... I'm looking at the Haan wheelset just now, about $2800 though 🥴 I'll let you know what the crash bars weigh, I'm gonna take them off to weigh them initially and then see if it's worthwhile.
@@TheRiderGuider Cheers.
It's an interesting problem to solve. I've had my fork and shock springs changed and both ends revalved to suit my current setup with soft panniers fitted. If I start taking weight out of the bike the suspension will firm up a bit so will have to keep an eye on that.
The Haan wheel set is the one that is on my wishlist. Helps that you can get it fairly easily here in Oz.
Crash bars removed. Bathroom scales suggest my T7 is now about 4.8kg lighter. My eyes tell me it is a whole lot better looking 😃 and the added bonus is that there's a lot more access in and around the engine.
@@luket7rider YEP - was in Coast the other day and Iain looked them up, about 5kgs. Are the mounting bolts the same ones that go back in afterwards? 😃 Also check out the Acerbis engine case protection too mate.
@@TheRiderGuider Two of the bolts (17mm heads) go back in place, one each side into the front of the cylinder head. The remainder, as far as I can tell, stay with the crash bars. Same for a couple of spacers.
Thanks for the tip on Acerbis engine case protection.
Pretty much the same story with me. I swapped the slipon to titanium HP-Corse (oem headers still), Removed the center stand, Swapped to lithium battery, I have the heavyduties enduro Crash Bars that only weigh 4kg total and I'm running an aluminium bash plate from HEED.
With the weight savings and addons on my bike I think I'm pretty close to stock weight even though I have those light crash bars to protect the engine block. The crash bars are also very low on the bike so that helps with the top heavy nature of the T7.
I would still like to do the DECAT with swapping the headers but as the bike is no longer road legal after that I'm a bit worried about traveling to certain countries like Germany etc..
Mate I might go back to lower engine bars, something about rocky creek beds that scares my engine cases. As for the header and can we're lucky here in that the cops generally don't show much interest in people unless they're riding like idiots, and getting overseas from this island is a rare occurrence 😁
15kg weight savings doesn't really mean much in the real world. Rider training and fitness is much more important
I'm always looking to increase the skills yes. As for fitness, I'm good to go at the moment, as a runner and mountainbiker I keep on top of that side but have to sacrifice T7 time to train ... fine balance haha.
I installed side bars which are about 7kg and I feel that front part became heavier. I don’t think extra weight it is about fitness, it is about mass. Mass is about physics which cannot be avoided
Std wheels do not have bead lock so tire will come off wheel in curves at speed at low pressure. I replaced mine with Hahn TL wheels. OFF_THE -Road was great source.
Sam, THANKS mate - I currently have a pair of Hahn wheels in a 'basket' ... can't quite hit the spend button yet hahhaha. What size did you go for and did you go tubeless? Thanks for the info too ;-)
G'day Neil, thanks for the video. In 2018, I had the Tubliss Tire System professionally fitted to a Honda CRF250RLA. Three months later, I had an off that was directly related to a failure of that system; and led to a full shoulder reconstruction. IMHO, it's the worst accessory I've ever added to a bike. Like you, I've a T7, and consider it the best all-round bike available. I've been playing with the idea of converting to tubeless but, if doing so, will bite the bullet and go down the expensive path of a dedicated wheel set.
Hello Alf, thanks for your input mate (I'm pretty sure I've seen you on here before so thanks AGAIN for watching my stuff) ... the wheel set - YES, it seems you're not the only one to now be suggesting this, Tubliss isn't the way, a dedicated tubeless wheel set will really liven it up. The overall feel of the bike will be awesome when I've done it all I reckon ... cheers 🙂
Mate a fantastic video with a different spin , I just went down in bike size , from my XT 660 and Husky 630 to a Honda CRF 300 Rally “ what a fantastic light weight bike to throw around the bush , my mates were amazing how fast I rode it ( as I waited for them 😂😂😂 ) A wise ADV rider once said NO ONE COMPLAINS ABOUT SMALLER AND LIGHTER JUST BIGGER AND HEAVIER. 👍☝️
THANKS mate! Oh I would LOVE a CRF!!! Have considered a lightweight option. Maybe in the not too distant future 😎👍🏼
Good points. These big bikes definitely don’t need more weight if you can help it.
Thanks Team ;-)
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Many accessories and customizations.
They seem to perform their function effectively.
Thank you for your wonderful presentation.
safety and health. and peace.
Thank you my friend.
When I add myself to any bike, that's the most carbs they will ever have, and it's way too many. 160kg (353lb) 😂
Damn, I feel my weight crushes every bike like crazy, and it's not a good feeling, even when I have my regular weight (140kg/308lb) it's still way too much.
On that note, which shocks/springs (spring rate) front and back would you recommend for me?
Single disk in the front. ABS removal. Canister removal. Lighter mirrors.
Lighter mirrors are on my radar for sure, not sure I can justify going single disk upfront but heard it's 3kgs. Thanks Guido.
@@TheRiderGuider 3kg of mostly sprung weight. Which is much more effective. You just need a bigger disk and a conversion bracket for the caliper.
@@Gwiedert It's quite controversial doing this on the T7 for some people, a big heavy bike for just one (even larger) disk. I reckon if I was just off-road I'd consider it as I'm more a user of the rear brake anyway. Unfortunately the authorities would question it here in the event of a vehicle check.
@@TheRiderGuider I see.. we don't have such a thing around here.
KLR guy here that will buy a second hand T700 at some point. I think what I got from the video is to not ride a T700 before I add all the accessories that I want to it. I'll never know how good stock is supposed to feel!
Chris, thanks for watching, either way you will never be disappointed mate, the KLR is a great bike but even a fully laden T7 will massively impress you. This is my first proper foray in to loose surfaces and it's surprised me that I'm finding I want to now edge towards a more enduro style of riding, thankfully the T7 (once I lighten it up some more) should be able to tick that box for me 🙂
That’s basically what I did. I rode a buddys bike that was basically stock before I bought mine that came with crash guards, tail rack, skid plate. My bike actually feels nimbler. But my bike also has a seat concepts low seat on it and that may cause me to sit in a more aggressive position. Not sure. But I can tell you, I’m not too worried about the weight at the moment, it feels great.
Brilliant video 👍🏼
Thanks for watching. Appreciate your comment 👍🏼🙂
I’ve got a T12 that I’m going through the exact same thing with, really looking forward to seeing how you deal with the weight on weight off thing , my bike is fantastic with everything off it .
Hi mate , biggest difference you will ever feel on any bike....the Wheels! ..the gyro aspect of the mass say half the weight of them both ..boom !!not going to be cheap, but easy compensates the extras you will need to put on , cheers mike
Mike, another comment suggesting dedicated tubeless wheel set, haha you will break my bank 😂... but YES - I'm going to go that way if I want the bike to perform like it should. THANKS for the input mate 👍
If you want to go tubeless, please replace your rims, so you get the real deal.
The crash bars, kill them with fire, not needed...
I think you done all the easy and safe stuff.
Removing a disc break, or removing ABS fully is not worth it, but that's at least about 3 Kg's..
Good luck :), will be interesting to see the final weight with a full tank.
Hi Marcus, YES there's been a couple of comments re new wheels, it certainly appeals to me if not my wallet 🤣 ... as for the crash bars, I reckon you're absolutely correct on them too, I've only dropped it from a standstill (slippy under foot) apart from once, I'm less concerned for the plastics now, and the AXP bashplate protects the water pump. Next up, engine bars are for sale haha. MIGHT even look at the Acerbis tank, it's lighter and up high and that could make the bike feel more alert if I still (under normal conditions) stick around 15 litres in it. Cheers mate 😉
@@TheRiderGuider I'm thinking of getting just a narrower set of rims and stronger spokes. But keep the hem hubs and just change the rim. But I would love a complete set, as that would be the easiest way to really use the tires for what you will be doing at the moment.
Just rims and spokes weren't that bad, but complete sets..... FFFFF
I'f im lucky I might be able to source a set of complete OEM hubs with discs, abs ring and all. Then I just need to cough up the dough for the rims and spokes.
I fell over and crashed so many times, no bars or nothing. Just cracked the Yamaha emblem on the right, and off course a lot of scratches.
But 500mic decal kit helps a lot to lessen the scars from falls and stuff.
And in my case, the GPMucci skid plate probably saved me some plastics too 🤪
@@allthingsenduro I'd love a second set of rims. Keep my originals for the commute/road trips with maybe a nice long lasting 50/50 tyre and then when I'm going to go off road - straight swap over to gnarly knobbly rubber. I'm researching some tubeless rims now mate.
What Headers are you going buy ?
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I used CORSA full exhaust much lighter than others MOTOIN. Tucks under rear footpeg munt OHLINS suspension Frt/Rear
Yours sounds like a weapon mate, Ohlins too 🤩 ... nice. So, similar thing happening, I just ordered the enduro bend Camel ADV and Scorpion can. The can will be up high, perfect. Can't wait.
I just to add anything that is not going to add the the handing of the bike I was gifted with a 38in inseam and have never been on a bike that felt big to me. Less is more on a bike like this. I've don't the same to my YZ250X WR250F CRF1000 and now this bike....
Plastic tank might save weight: MADtv
I'd stitch the tools into the unused portion of rear seat or put the tube in it.
Nerb1 has/ hasn't tubeless.
Hi Chris, YES the Acerbis is on the cards, apparantly it's a kilo or two lighter even when you add the extra fuel it can hold.
You will need a remap with the headers
Definitely happening mate. I initially thought of not doing it, but what’s the point of spending all that cash on the hardware and then not getting the best out of it!? I agree. Can’t wait to get it sorted 😎👍🏼
@@TheRiderGuider the t7 runs lean as standard. Will be even more lean with headers.
ALT Rider adj side stand, foot brake lever engine guards
ALT RIDER cheers mate - I'll check that out
Bigger foot pegs (I use IMS) and Steg Pegz, and she is done.
How this was a 10 minute video is beyond me. Listened at 4x speed and this could literally be condensed into 2 minutes😊
Says the bloke with two uploads and probably no idea how to edit or present a video.
Pretty much the same as you all the gear, ideal for longer trips but not so much for local trips.
Yeh mate, I'm mostly doing the local trips at the moment and I think when I bought it I didn't know where it would lead, it's opened up a whole new yearning for something even more weapon-like such as a WR450 or a Husqy 701 maybe? A 701 would tick some boxes for sure - only weighs about 150Kgs (I think) but it's also capable of going long.
change the suspension before investing in an akra! a fyi the header is for the old shape! its a real pain in the ass to install it with the new shape
I'm only a smidge over 70 kgs, the standard suspension has been fine so far for my weight, a few rides experimenting with the settings were all that I needed. Not discounting something far more exotic at some point but it's something I'll do once I've started to feel some wear. The Akra fits mine, it's a 2020 👍
Nice pronunciation of that non crap thingy 😎👍
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Try ditching the heavy duty tubes
Hi Chris, absolutely yes. In fact I’m ditching tubes and getting new rim’s hopefully. Lightening the wallet too 😆
I see heavy slugs all the time but I just figure they don’t go down single trails
YEH mate, thanks for watching, as I've increased my off roading I've definitely had more urge to go the single trails ... might end up with an enduro bike at some point too! 😃
You haven't mentioned a chain guide which I think is is essential if you are using the Tenere for what it was designed and built to do.
Amazed that Yamaha doesn't put in a chain guide and radiator guard as standard in the factory.
Kuri, you’re 100% right, as small and almost out of sight that it is, the chain guide is essential! I have one too. Thanks mate.
If t7 is heavy, first drive a big honda cruiser for a year or so. :)
Hi Luke, yeh I was of the opinion the snatchy throttle was a myth as I generally smooth out with clutch use, always have but this definitely improved things with just off the throttle riding. SkyTrek up at Willow Springs? I REALLY need to try that! Was it a challenge on the T7?
Funny how you calculate…..you remove some weight like center stand but……it was added before so it’s not weight reduction.
Yeh, that's why the video is about how I ruined my T7
Often I choose not to camp. Easily 10kg saving in all gears.
Never once mention the importanceofweight location. Obviously the higher the weight reduction the better. Reducing the weight of the engine bash plate i doubt would make any significant benefit.
Its getting the weight of the top thats the issue, many owner complain about this
We're not gonna be able to change that tank location mate, that's pretty much what causes that top heavy feel along with what is a tall-ish engine in a dual purpose frame. Agree that the bashplate won't make a difference to lifting it, but overall it's a nimble thing again now.
this is a super long way to say i put to much stuff on my bike so i took some off lmao
It also shows literally how much weight can be saved, the fact I got it back to what it was when I bought it new but also still have a few accessories. Very little compromise, even though I have some additions it weighs close to a standard bike now. Actually now it also has a titanium header and Scorpion exhaust can it's lighter still. Cheers.
to think tubeless would save weight is wrong.. the tire it self weighs more and the rim is not the same weight. as it has to have stronger side's.
The Tenere 700 has tubeless tyres as standard already, so what you’re saying isn’t accurate. They’re just tubeless tyres fitted with tubes, so the weight saving is in the removal of the tubes as the tyres aren't changed. The tubes are quite heavy, even more so on mine as they’re HD tubes. I reckon my rear tube weighs at least a couple of pounds. I’m not sure there would be a significant difference in the weight of a tubeless rim compared to a tubed type.
Do you know that a ridercan be easily 40-140lbs lighter than another rider? Drink a liter of Seltzer and you are already 2lbs heavier so going nuts about accessories' weight is not very useful
Ah but it's also about lifting it if it falls over ...
I can’t stand the whole adv bike bolt-ons “thing” - loads of short fat blokes on huge GSs that must be almost the size and weight of a car - with knobblies. Who are they trying to kid?
I got a T700 and everyone says “what have you put on it?” and “what crash protection are you putting on?”
I’m not. I’ve put Anlas Capra X tyres, heated grips, GPS on the micro rail, luggage rack (minimalist job), tail tidy and LED indicators (the latter two just for styling).
For me that’s all you need. Keep it simple. Keep it light. Scrape the side panels? Just get some more and fit the scraped ones for off road.
Put it this way - look at the T700s on the Yamaha off road experience. What’ve they got? Knobblies. That’s it.
I wish I had an adventure or off road bike. I really miss it. My wife won't let me.
Ha Chewie, it's where all you true blue Aussie blokes grew up, in the paddocks and scrub, blasting around. If Mrs Chewie were to allow a second steed for the loose surfaces, what would you go for?
@@TheRiderGuider A dedicated off road bike. Maybe a 450. Not sure.
@@hachewie WR450 is a tempting proposition ... I wonder now if I should have got one instead haha.
Maybe swap the wife for an ADV bike then ?😁
@@silverdale3207 I like it. 🤣🤣🤣
Hard to believe the centre stand was 4kg the battery is around 4kg and that feels like a block of lead.
Not far off actually yeh. OE battery is 3.2 kgs. Proper lump. Couldn’t believe the difference when holding the Antigravity in my other hand.
Mooseballs (lowers / centers top heaviness of t7)
Less is always more...
INDEED mate yes. More to come on this hopefully. Cheers.
You should buy a super light weight titanium muffler to save a few pound😂
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Battery
ABSOLUTELY - check out how much weight it saved me ... ua-cam.com/video/b2yBRFY2O24/v-deo.html
Dump 1k to loose 30 lbs maybe. Go to a gym once a week and you will get a better return on your investment
Some wise words...but I must stop watching T7 vids 😂😂
can't understand anything you say
Well at least you tried 😂 … there’s school medals for not doing well these days
Brill video,,just go faster it still feels light 😂😂😂
😂 … shrunken testicles have slowed me down ☺️
@@TheRiderGuider 😂😂👍👌
Although I must admit that I’ve been described as,,,not having the self preservation gene!!! 😂😂😂
Get a full exhaust system and an ECU flash if you want more pep
Haha you mean like this one? … 👍🏼 YAMAHA TENERE 700 FULL EXHAUST SYSTEM UPGRADE, SHOW, AND TEST.
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ECU and Dyno 14th Feb. can’t wait!
@@TheRiderGuider Looking forward to seeing the results of the flash. I'm considering it but I'm not sure about flashing back to stock when bringing it into the dealer since I think it voids the warranty. I still need to do some homework
@@Josh-ew1le Have a chat with your dealer, I reckon they wouldn't knock you back if you needed any warranty work. To be fair there's not much can go wrong with these bikes anyway. How young is your T7? Mine is over two years now, however I wouldn't have actually considered the warranty side when thinking about tuning it.