Most realistic movie sniper scene is in Jarhead. A bunch of snipers screwing around in the desert only to have their target destroyed by CAS called in by a medal-hungry officer.
The best part is the movie says that troops love anti-war movies cause they love that Apocalypse Now shit. So Jarhead is the only real anti-war movie because nothing cool happens, it's just boring and miserable.
This is kinda why I don't fault much of the stuff IMPACT SHOOTING faults. Lots of what's being complained about it a little bit like going to the movies and complaining that you didn't actually need hearing protection. Shooting at blurry shapes that are supposedly killing other people you can't see 12 hours of waiting? Nobody would go to see that. Your good guy(s) can't plug endless bad guys who are incapable of shooting back at him, otherwise, he really starts to look like a bad guy. The crappy muzzle flashes aren't there to portray reality, they're there to tell a story.
IMPACT SHOOTING your positive attitude made my day 👏🏼👏🏼 Im actually a good (at the range, with no pressure, with good sights or scope etc) shot, but I’d enjoy training like I was a beginner 😋 I feel like “shooting 201” is hard to find!
In fact you would, trust me. I gave my AR15 to my 17 year old daughter at the ranch at 200m. She had no experience with rifles, only pistols. 20 shots in more or less at the area of a palm. I'm sure she would do better with my long range rifle though. With some basic instructions and a reasonable rifle 100m is no challenge at all.
Hey Shooter, as a Marine and one from the Helicopter community I can say that shooting the rotorhead of a helicopter is the safest bet in this case (since it is a movie) 1- the rotors move so fast, that shooting a pilot through the blades is not feasible, and round deflection is 100% guarantee 2- if you shoot a pilot, you have a co-pilot to deal with, tactic of recovering from a shooting scenario such as this.would be to turn 90degrees from the point of impact, raise the nose, climb for distance and atmosphere interference, and then evasion tactical flight 3- this is only a movie, and as such what we are seeing is not usually undertaken in combat, as the best manner to engage a Helo is to try to shoot at it from the side or at least under the rotor arch, as it was wonderfully used in Vietnam and then in Afghanistan against the Russians. Great video, and keep up the LRS
thanks for the reply mate, my Dad flies Helos too. Actually had hydraulic failure once and wrecked on. I remember how thick the honeycomb structure inside the rotor blade was. Your point is 100% valid, thanks for the comment. And thanks for your service of others!
100% round deflection is not true. Actually probability of hitting rotor is pretty low.. Chopper rotors run less than 1000rpm....high idle on a car. Early bi-planes machine guns shot through the propeller arc via a timing mechanism.
@@pro2a261You do realise how precise those timing mechanisms were? Myth busters tried replicating that exact thing with zero success, they destroyed the propeller 100% of their tests...
Hey Luis, as a former US Army soldier from the helicopter community (an enlisted helicopter mechanic then a warrant officer helicopter pilot) I can say the rotorheads are made of thick steel (or titanium on Apaches) because they have to support the weight of the helicopter and G forces while maneuvering and by far the NOT even close to a good bet for being destroyed by small arms fire. Do not believe what you see in the movies. Bullets do not just spark and deflect off helicopters. Helicopter rotorblades are not made of steel (nor titanium) and are not bulletproof and certainly do NOT deflect bullets. Older helicopter rotor blades are thin aluminum alloy skin on aluminum honeycomb. Newer helicopter are composite fiber skins over composite honeycomb. Bullets will pass through rotor blades not be deflected. Also, the rotors move fast but bullets move much faster than rotor blades and there is a lot of space between blades of even a four blade system for bullets to pass. Most helicopter windshields are thin plexiglass that will not stop bullets except Apache windshields which have thick laminated plexiglass. The most effective evasive maneuver for a helicopter when taking fire is to immediately turn (which you typed) then fly behind cover (we called it "masking") NOT climb and expose yourself to more fire.
It’s the same thing with movies using cameras to take photos of stuff. They use a 50-100mm and get the details as if they took the photo with a 600mm lens
Hell in movies you have characters that can identify someone’s face from hundreds of metres away with their bare eyes. Shit I can’t see someone’s face over 60 metres away.
Yes the u.s army does teach to aim at the chest because it's a bigger easier target that takes the combatants out of the fight , doesnt necessarily mean a army sniper wont hit a head shot.
Benjamin Cyrus it’s just faster too, when you have multiple targets as long as you land it in the triangle you’re hitting liver, lung or heart anyway so it’s a mortal wound (if it’s not immediately fatal then the person is dropped for a while and you can reengage if needed) take the time to land 3 headshots and you could have hit 6 body shots instead it’s just pointless going for the head
@@Pugrug. Navy Seal or not doesn't matter. In the Corps we trained similar, Head shots only when necessary. They are too easy to miss. At the range he was shooting in the movie and the angle of the shot he was aiming down slope and had a perfect lung shot with that 300.
The reason we in the military don’t aim for headshots is because, as any experienced shooter knows, you should always aim for center mass to maximize chances of hitting your target. If you aim for the head, it’s a much smaller target and more likely to miss, especially when the target is moving. And if you miss, then you’ve now given away your position and your target can get away.
Piet's point was that because it was such an easy close-range shot (~75m) and hardly moving, a head shot is much better as it's instant-kill, versus the body shot (Centre of Mass) as the victim could still fire their weapon immediately afterwards. I will leave it to you with your military expertise at sniping, and Piet an expert marksman, to argue the toss of where that line is, but Piet's point is valid.
lol, just knowing you are talking to a pro shooter that won multiple NRL series. FYI we've always seen in the match, military guys tend to not finished very well in competition shooting =)
@@VainFriggus lmao, what does this "kill and save your buddy’s life next to you and defend your country’s freedom" have to do with being an expert in shooting?
RE American Sniper: This too was "based on a book" and in the Soldier of Fortune article published around the time the movie debuted, there were admissions that the "sniper conflict" was added into the movie story line. Chris Kyle did not complete the long-shot as it was depicted, and he never actually "faced off" against this enemy sniper. It was all put in for story content. He did complete a long range shot of this range or similar, but not under these circumstances...so, yeah, blame Hollywood for that too.
Why didn't they just shoot the targets for real in the training scene... like what lol. Then you would get realistic recoil and bullet hits. Not to mention probably way cheaper than rigging up timed explosives/cgi bullet hits. Certainly some military guys would be down to be in a movie, it's not like you need real actors for that particular scene. In fact in the most recent veterans react video by black rifle coffee the one Navy seal said he got ORDERED to go down and participate in Act of Valor.
Director probably knows jackshit about firearms. They probably shot it with 9mm from someone whom had it in there car. Also bravo. Not a bad idea to hire some ex military (or active duty) to take some simple shots. These movies are probably filmed in California though. We all know you cant do shit over there😂😂😂
@@Bikini_ST The director was Clint Eastwood, and Eastwood probably used gas guns so he could run a camera rig in front of the firing line. The idea of using a remote camera on a rig likely didn't occur to him since the guy learned film making in the 70s and 80s, remote camera rigs weren't a thing then so he's not super familiar with them. Also a real range is more expensive to rent than a fake one, and you'd have to pay a firearms safety guy to be on scene for real rifles since even smart actors are half retarded. They can't all be George Miller and shoot the whole thing chronologically with mostly practical effects and clever compositing. Plus Eastwood is much more an actors director, he's all about that tight direction for his performers with the rest kinda taking a back seat. That's why his movies have really good performances but kinda boring set design and cinematography.
@@russetwolf13 very true, I do like Eastwood as a director though regardless. Although his experience would be 2 fold cus they were shooting for real a whole lot more at the height of his career.
@Southtown Hick honestly could be a factor, I recently watched a video about how movies have gotten suuuuuuper risk adverse now. Like back in the day if you needed a plane crash you'd stick a stunt pilot in that bitch and crash it now a days they would never allow such a thing. Look at the cessna crash in Iron Eagle that was a real dude flying a plane low AF out of control.
The most jarring thing for me when I started long range shooting was how very little magnification most optics have. Even 9x seems small for 450 yards (though since I've gotten really good at shooting 450 yards with iron sights on my AR-15). My brother and I tried a crack at the 1KYD high power range using his .30-06 Winchester XPR, and we learned real fast that beyond 600 yards, a spotter scope is absolutely critical, as at 1KYDs, we had no idea where the bullets were going (couldn't even see the dirt kick up at such a long range through his 9x Leupold). This was jarring, because all my life, I imagined sniping to be like it's shown in movies and video games; it is not... at all. It's actually quite difficult, and requires a lot of math and knowledge of your rifle, ammo, and environment. Gave me a real appreciation for the guys who figured out how to launch a probe to Mars. I'd call that a moon shot, but that's even more impressive! You know your shot is long when it requires calculating the rotation of more than one planet, lol!
@@juanvaldez6321 Lol! Yeah, that's a bit absurd for a .22LR! I would recommend you practice with your irons first, and practice fundamentals like trigger control, breathing, and most importantly (that I've found) is getting a consistent cheek weld. I've put off long range shooting for now, and have been practicing fundamentals using the CMMG .22LR conversion kit for my AR-15, and shooting at short range (25-50 yards) at dynamic targets. ua-cam.com/video/fnaI2qKABl8/v-deo.html I've since sold the RDS, as I've found I actually prefer the A2/A3 style rear sight with a Magpul MBUS Pro up front. Some of the targets are just slightly wider than the bullet itself, and they've been a good measure for improvement. As for training with .22LR, I'm doing that because of the economic benefits. $50 will get me 1,100 rounds of .22LR, while $60 gets me 150 rounds of 5.56mm. I have already seen vast improvement in my skills, and as long as I'm zeroed properly, I've been getting tighter and tighter groups when switching over to 5.56 to the point I can now shoot the 8" steel gong at 300 yards about 80% of the time with irons, and the 18" gong at 300 nearly 100% (occasionally there will be a flyer, or I just have a bad shot). Both my brother and I have been practicing, because we want to be able to consistently hit the 8" gong at 450 yards with his .30-06 and 9x scope before elk hunting season. Where we live, it's not uncommon to take elk beyond 350 yards, and we want to ensure a clean kill at those ranges. I'm still a pretty new shooter, and have a lot of improvement to make. I only started shooting (and bought my first gun) at age 34, and now I'm 35. Those of you who've been shooting since you were kids are incredibly lucky, and I have a lot of catching up to do.
@@Gottaculat I have a feeling Peter might be one of those guys that shoots ultra precision .22lrs, we are talking shooting match heads off at 25 and 50yrds and splitting toothpicks in half. Some of those guys have special scopes that go up to 50x so they can see those microscopic targets at 50+ yards. I do agree that iron sight and trigger fundamentals are something that needs practice and is very beneficial. My favorite gun to shoot is my old bolt .22lr it is indecent how precise it is even with bulk ammo (eg. it can hit a 300yrd 1/2 size sillouet gong repeatedly from a kneeling position, albeit with no wind and I usually have to walk the rounds in initially), trigger on it is decent, nothing like the 10oz on the long gun but crisp enough to practice good trigger pulls on. Sounds like you are on the right track to shooting well though, so keep it up!!
@@jacobhayes8324 He said he beat up Jesse Ventura (also a former SEAL) in a bar in his book. Kyle swore it was true but 0 people backed up his story, whereas multiple other SEAL's that were there when Kyle and Ventura met backed up Jesse's account that they just met briefly and that was that. He also claimed to have killed a bunch looters during Katrina and that is unconfirmed as well. It's like the guys that were cooks on a ship, then later in life claim to have been SEALs. He already was a SEAL so decided to fabricate stories to make himself larger than life.
“Why not go for the head shot?” Center mass is the way we’re taught usually. Understandable why it would be confusing, but from a logical standpoint, a .308 is going to drop just about anyone without armor with a center mass shot. Even if it doesn’t kill them, they’re definitely incapacitated.
US Military training is go for center mass (the larger target) first, headshots are stopping shots. Also in the movie they predominantly showed Chris using his Tac-338 in .338 LM
I think the recoil thing is a lot like how actors drive in film. They move the wheel all over the place, when if you’re really driving, the goal is to keep it straight and not jerk around.... it’s probably for the audience. I’d imagine if the audience saw real long range shooting, they’d not believe it was realistic....
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when you were talkign about why he didn't shoot the pilot, the co-pilot would of been able to table over so he would of had to shoot them booth and hope they still coudlnt flt when they are woudned
Mark's also left handed. And in the scene where the soldiers or surrounding them in the woods. Bob Lee Swagger spotter did not have a boat in his gun. and a bottle will not make a silencer even on the 22.
223 DMR according to the films technical advisor the .50 appears being pulled back because it kept jamming during filming meaning Mark had to pull it back manually. He also changes to left handed (because marks Left handed naturally, making it easier). He starts the film righty, and is shot early on in the right shoulder so means marks using his dominant side for most of the film. Edit: haven’t watched impacts follow-up video (yet!), so he’s maybe covered it.
Another thing I always noticed was the guy was assassinated with an m82a1(50 bmg) right?....but lees m200 was a 408. So how did he even get framed in the first place? The rifles aren't even the same caliber lol. Did they not pull the bullet from the corpse and see it was a 50?? Like what the fuck haha.
@@IMPACTSHOOTING Thanks, I always thought that was a plot hole. I actually owned both calibers in my old M96 Windrunner, if you're not familiar with the rifle its pretty much the grandfather of the m200. EDM ARMS made most of the receivers for cheytac. I use an M18 Windrunner in 50 bmg now. And I'm so glad you pointed out how the movies always get the field of view wrong in the long shots.
In the movie they recover the expended .408 round from the can of food you show him shoot. They then wrap the round in a kind of wax paper wadding that makes it just large to be fired from the .50 Cal. The idea was that the original .408 round would match Lee's barrel and not the M82A1 it was fired from as the paper would protect the round as from the .50 barrel rifling. The wax paper would then incinerate or fall away upon leaving the barrel and while in flight. If you re-watch the movie it's mentioned. They talk about it when they go to the old guy's house who supposedly buried Kennedy's shooters and "still has the shovel". disclaimer: this is how it is explained in the movie. I did not write or participate in the making of this movie...LOL!
@@davidneuzil9490 There are sooo many things wrong about that, but that's Hollywood lmao. But I get what youre saying. Can't imagine throwing a 408 bullet down a 50 barrel and having it shoot straight. 😂
@@davidneuzil9490 That's basically hollywood bullshit. Even if they really get to do that, it would really destroy accuracy so much I doubt it'll even be effective at 500 yards. Seriously, what the fuck.
Yeah in fairness, this was the kind of *expert* level and quantity of detailed feedback I would expect FROM an expert. Far far better expert analysis than I've seen from other reviewers who have had long military service. So well done. I've subscribed 👍👍
Piet, the main thing American Sniper got wrong is that in the way they showed it, Chris Kyle didn’t make the longest shot, the enemy sniper did. Remember that when the enemy sniper shoots the guys off the ladder, he shot from behind Chris Kyle, so his shot was equal to the distance Chris shot sniper from plus the distance the guy in ladder was from Chris Kyle. I know it’s a movie, but enemy sniper should not have been behind Chris or his shot would have been way further than Chris’ shot, in which case enemy sniper should get the record, and not Chris. Enemy sniper did it with a much smaller rifle too. 😁 Good stuff. 👍
US: We have the best snipers in the world! UK: Sorry mate, but pretty sure we got betta snipa's than yous Canada: *visible confusion at the US and UK after casually crushing their records by a 40-60% and holding 3 of the top 5 places*
@@coppertopv365 none of those are the best neither by most kills or by distance. Distance solidly belongs to canada for decades, kills simi hayha or possibly petrovska
When you said you didn’t know why he didn’t go for the headshot. I’m Chris kyles autobiography he says that you don’t actually go for headshots you go for the chest because its a bigger target
infact the marine sniper training manuals emphasised body shots though if your engaging a target lying prone youd go for the head cause itsa larger target
Riley Starlin the reason you go for chest is it’s a bigger target, second your chest is more predictable with movement, third military uses high end armor piercing rounds so it will go through anyways. Lastly I don’t think I guy with a gunshot wound to the stomach or anywhere upper body could shoot a rpg before a second shot goes off from the sniper.
You were spot on about the movie except for the finger on the trigger, some SMU'S give you a choice finger tip or the middle of your finger you get a better hand hold using the middle plus quicker trigger engagement and reset and the finger moves less distance to accomplish it, shoot what works for you, there is no right way or wrong way, thanks for the great video.
Except that in the hollywood scene the rifles DONT have muzzle brakes while your pro rig DOES have a muzzle break. Whats the difference? About half or less recoil for a given caliber. Might have been not the most direct comparison. but yes they have over done it. Quick search on the internet, some military helicopters DO have bullet resistant cockpit/cabins, going for the pilot may or may not actually kill, but good chance that 50 BMG would penetrate. On the plus side, hitting the windshield would have at least obscured the pilots vision and shaken his confidence.
Also shooting through windshields has been shown to dramatically change the trajectory of a bullet. Even more if the cockpit is built to withstand bullets
And, yes, shooting through a vast number of things will cause the bullet trajectory to alter. But I think with 5x the energy of a 7.62x51mm rifle bullet, the wad of hurtling steel/DU or lead will not deflect enough in 4 feet to miss the pilot after passing through his lexan windshield. Watch some Demolition Ranch videos. He shoots down a tree with a .50BMG. As well as other things. That Heli isnt designed to fly fast enough to where a broken cockpit windshield will cause the chopper to fly uncontrollably. An exploded pilot, or rotor hub, will, however.
@@tinkerjeeppublications9823 The AH64 Apache can withstand at least 12.7mm (50bmg) to the glass, and the Mi-24 Hind can stop up to the Russians 14.5mm antiaircraft round. So basically all of the relevant modern attack helicopters. Attack helicopter cockpit glass is typically multiple layers of different types of bulletproof glass, and it's multiple inches thick. I can personally attest that the thick-ass bulletproof glass used in the windows of an MRAP can stop the 12.7x108mm that the DShK fires. Demolition Ranch even has a video of him shooting some bulletproof glass that stops (one) .50 bmg hit. Second one wins, though.
the scene where bob lee swayger shoots at the helicopter in shooter. He is using the M107 which is a semi auto .50cal, I noticed in movie that he pulls the bolt after every shots like it a bolt action lol.
@@gabe7787 I can't speak for him but I have shot 5.56, 7.62 and .50 cal blanks, and they have much less blowback. You need a gas-stop screwed into the end of the barrel to cause enough force to fully cycle the round, and even those aren't always effective. And the sand also comes into play, it can prevent a normal round from cycling correctly.
Correct. Without a Blank Fire device on the muzzle end, very few firearm's actions will cycle at all, and the few that do generate enough impetus to start it to recoil rearward, usually just fail to extract & eject, and thus likely cause a 'stovepipe' stoppage, or possibly a double-feed. If you look into the barrel of most movie guns, especially rifles, you can see that just before the end of the barrel, its blocked up with a small forcing cone, and only a much smaller hole than the rifle's actual barrel caliber is letting out hot gasses, under more pressure. This is part of why movie guns always have such large muzzle flashes, (even when its not CGI). An easy find example is the original Arnie Predator movie, after the scene where they work to lay 'boy scout bullshit' traps for the predator using the jungle, and their crouched waiting & talking, there is a shot where you can clearly see the gas forcing cone inserted in the barrel of his rifle..so it will function reliably with the blanks, and it is usually positioned at just the right place to allow the gas to vent firmly under tighter pressure, right into the flash hider on the end of the barrel, forcefully giving it that created, starshaped flash everyone knows & loves! There are many other movies too, where you can see this device, just down the muzzles of blankfire movie guns.. Because they can't work without it Once you start looking, you'll see them everywhere! Have fun. Dont let it ruin the movies for you watching for it though.. Put simply.. Without this pressure build up in the barrel, as there would be building up behind a bullet, it would just all vent out the end, like a hot gas fart, and there would be virtually ZERO gas impingement or blowback to work a bolt..just like the bolt in the Barrett M107 rifle in Shooter.. Now you know.
So true story but not how it happened. I think he would be more upset with the story being retold inaccurately. The guy he shot at that distance was not the Olympic shooter. I know Hollywood lol
Chris Kyle was a lying sociopath who loved killing people . I'm sorry he was killed . Its tragic but NO ONE should work with PTSD patients without proper medical training and they certainly should not hand them loaded weapons. Ask any seal team member what 90- 95% of his job is and the answer will be training.
brian milligan Chris Kyle is not a sociopathic liar. He suffered from severe PTSD and overcame it. If you knew anything about snipers then you would realize they build stories about their targets. It keeps from getting distracted and it makes it easier. In a lot of cases the sniper ends up convincing himself of the story as a coping mechanism. The man was an incredible soldier and accomplished incredible things. He even overcame PTSD and worked with others to overcome it. It just so happened that one guy got the drop on him and his friend that day and killed them both. I believe Chris even texted his friend to “watch his 6” because he could tell this guy was a little off. The guy got the drop on them.
If you read Chris Kyles book, he says he never aimed for the head. He always aimed center mass because you have more room to work with. The rounds always had enough stopping power anyways.
@Glider FS From what I've read most us soldiers have level 3a armor Which does not stop anything over .44 magnum So basically most rifle rounds will go through Plus most terrorists don't have sophisticated body armor
@@prestondoring2640 you know I didn't even see the part where you we're talking about terrorist. I suppose that's why you should always get all the info.
Agree with everything. There is even more Piet isn't mentioning. From the rooftop in a prone position, how are you seeing down onto the streets so close? Hollywood should really hire and listen to the experts. Rock on Piet 🤘😎
Tire squeal on gravel roads got me good. Something I never thought about even having driven on them so much. Now I have a feeling I'll never miss it in movies.
Looks like most of them are just repeating the same "The Army trains you to shoot center mass." comment. Saying this is also a good way to start a dick measuring contest in the comments.
Please go through some of the shooter episodes from the tv series. There are some interesting facts and errors throughout that series as well. Much more to dissect and create a few more easy videos for you as well. Thank you for your hard work.
You missed something,In the movie "Shooter" mark is trying to shoot the helicopter with the .50 cal Barrett although it's an semiauto rifle but he is cocking the rifle for every shot.
i've heard the explanation for that is that in movies they shoot blank rounds, which don't have enough blowback to cycle the bolt, so it has to be done manually.
13:20 honestly, cars on gravel or dirt, if it’s packed enough, does still squeal like that. I have done this myself and yes it surprised me a great deal when it happened.
One thing I had a problem with in shooter towards the end is... Whalberg is running around that house planting IED's with his rifle slung muzzle down. At least once he drops to his knees and the weapon sling goes limp meaning he planted the barrel of his weapon in the dirt! There's a reason the military slings their weapons with the muzzle up!
In the book his longest shot wasn't on the Olympic Sniper. It was on a random group of guys. And you're right, Chris did say it was a luck shot. The Olympic sniper was briefly mentioned in the book.
With the whole “why didn’t he shoot the pilot”, the cyclic is combined with the copilot as well and the copilot would easily be able to continue so he would have to take an extra shot.
Given the fact that the scope he is using for the “one mile “ shot is a night force nxs 5.5x22x50, the soup can is a max of 200 yards away. Also,the time of flight is around 3.25 seconds until impact at 2000 meters.
The Canadian that did the 3,450 meter shot was on top of a tall apartment building shooting down into a valley. He fired 4 or five shots before he made the kill but the targets did not take cover or hide after he missed. They figure he had to have his cross hairs 3 to 4 scope optics above the target to make the kill. The Canadian did not want to have his name released.
I don’t know if anyone else has remarked about it, but I appreciated your demonstrating that even with an exceptionally precise rifle, ammunition, and shooter, beyond certain distances chance (luck) will invariably play a role because of the natural bullet dispersion cone. This is something that is almost never discussed in accounts of long range sniper kills. Louis Pasteur is credited with saying, “Chance favors the prepared mind,” and chance certainly favors the best shot with the best equipment, but when natural bullet dispersion can put the bullet outside the target zone, then chance has the final say. Thank you. I notice some things in these movies, but you obviously have the better, more discerning eye.
I don't know if this was mentioned in the comments or not, but the screen in Shooter where Mark's character was shooting at the help was theoretically correct. The 50 Cal was designed for Special Operations because they wanted a portable weapon system that could "take out" aircraft. If you wanted to "seize" the craft you would shoot through the fuselage stopping a plane from pressuring and able to take off. Later fixing the holes in the fuselage. If you wanted to disable the aircraft you would shoot at the engine/motor the most vital part of any aircraft severally damaging the motor/engine. The scene in Shooter made perfect sense. The helicopter wasn't pressurized so a shot at the helo's engine was bring it down. Even if the pilot was able do a controlled crash, the bird wouldn't be airborne any time soon.
Great video, the Chris Kyle shot in the movie is a dramatization, he did a 1900m shot, but it was different in the book, no Olympic Shooter guy, just Hollywood making their interpretation of a +-2km shot.
This was very witty and funny. I especially liked the tidbit about how real suppressors aren’t that quiet because my buddy in CoD Warzone recently said “dude, there’s no way you have a monolithic suppressor on that HDR! You’re giving away our position!” He was obviously very wrong.
When the instructor told him to get his off eye closed that’s also wrong in another way, because even as a marine scout sniper we were trained to keep both eyes open as that is one of the main rules of being a sniper. You’ll have to be aware of your surroundings to protect yourself and the infantrymen.
One of my big complaints with "Shooter" was, "I changed the firing pin before I left the house. I always do. It looks right but you need a micrometer to tell." The truth is that you would have to take off several thousandths of an inch to sufficiently reduce the amount of protrusion the firing pin would have in order to render the firearm harmless. You would measure that large of a difference with Calipers not a micrometer. I should know. I did it with a lathe on an AR15 firing pin several years ago.
@@chrisgautier7942 fair, but what is their measurement increments? Hundredths, thousandths, ten thousandths? In order to prevent firing with my AR I had to reduce the length by almost 20 thousandths (.020 in) can't recall the exact measurements as it was years ago.
Das_Edelweiss it’s kinda dumb that the EOD movie did sniping more accurately than most sniper movies. But hey they actually miss and dial in the scope etc it’s good to see it
Good breakdown.. Another thing I often notice in movies, and is seen several times in this video, The cross hairs are tracking a moving target and yet the rifle remains motionless when it cuts back to the shooter..
I love your videos mate and one thing I picked up in Shooter is the fact that Mark is single racking the Barrett M107 in that opening sequence, seeing that rifle with a half open bolt is very funny to me as they always slam forward after an ejected round and don’t have a hold open feature once they have an empty magazine. On the range a spent case on its side is often used to hold the bolt open so the action can be determined that it has been cleared
Hi, awesome video. One minor correction, I live in Florida and we have to shoot snakes fairly often on our property. I'd say more often than not, snakes (especially Rattlesnakes, and Cottonmouths) actually do jump up off the ground like that when they're shot. Not due to the force of the bullet hitting them, but due to the snakes fast twitch muscle/nerves going crazy after decapitation. Now, I've never seen one clear the ground like that, but ive seen snakes shot with everything from a .300 to a .25, all the way to 00 buckshot and I've never seen one disintegrate or explode beyond recognition either.
@@whateveryea9745 and the fact that all sorts of shit went flying everywhere added to constant malfunctions, the editors just decided to make it seem that he was cycling the weapon every shot.
Everyone knows Sub-Sonic .60 BMG rounds won't cycle the bolt. Oh wait, was he shooting suppressed then? It might with a suppressor fitted! it is sometimes painful what Hollyweird does with their entertainment license to change up reality for the sake of creativeness.
When you were talking about Olympic shooting I can vouch because I shoot Olympic air pistol and small bore pistol and trigger control and finger placement is incredibly crucial
I have fired a 1973 vintage Soviet Dragunov 15 years ago with a PSO-1. The rifle is a very capable system but the scope is very out of date because of the 4X fixed power scope. The magnification was average and the glass was old so it had a slight brown tinting around the sides but good enough to eliminate parallax. The cut of the lines in the glass was fine of the vertical and top horizontal lines with the stadia leads along with the range finder on the left. The aiming points were clear also provided that there were no shade if the target was in the shadows. If there were shadows to conceal the aiming points and windage hash marks then I would have to turn on the illuminator to get the contrast on where the aiming points and hash marks are along. Like shooting in low light conditions. Lucky that day I had the wind coming from my back to front so no cross winds. The targets were fresh E-Type OD Green pop up targets with plywood backing so when hit they would register the shot and go down. We were on the multipurpose machinegun and sniper range so we had targets all the way up to 1200 meters. The ammo we used were Hungarian silver and yellow band 147 grain bullets. I think theses were machinegun ammo because after a few rounds I had to reset the gas regulator because it had a violent recoil. At 100 meters I adjusted the scope to shoot center on an NRA B-27 paper target to 2 inches/51mm best after moving from 6 inches/151mm left and 7 inches/179mm up with 12 rounds. One round hits from 300 to 500 meters, 2 rounds from 600 to 800, 3-5 rounds from 900 to 1200 meters. The trigger feels better than an average AK, way better than a stock M16A2, and equal to that of a match grade M1A/M21. I was impressed for one day of shooting. I would be great with this rifle after 4-5 days with proper Soviet or Eastern Bloc match grade ammo. I respected this rifle and been very careful when I was in Iraq. Only the best marksmen were given these rifles. The choke sight range finder was very helpful. It is the same type of sights on Soviet tanks for range finding and estimation and the M1A1 Abrams auxiliary sight. The Soviet and current Russian Federation Army employs one or two of these in their infantry platoons. Very good rifle for a designated marksman. It would be really deadly if it had better variable quality optics.
It would be standard training amongst all forces for center mass shots, larger target harder to miss. A body wound will typical take a target out of the fight as much as a kill shot would, pending severity.
@@roxasparks I'm guessing your asking why a body wound is almost as effective as a kill shot? If you take a round into the chest cavity there's a high chance of a lung puncture or diaphragm puncture either one may not be an initial kill however you wouldn't be able to breath properly, as such your body won't be able to function properly as such holding a gun even a pistol is a difficult task to say the least. A gut shot of untested in sufficient time will be a slow painful death, typical unless is on an appendage most wounds would stop a person in there tracks. Most stories of people functioning after being wounded are injuries that are lucky to miss nearly all vital organs and pathways, however blood loss can be a problem over time.
Thank you my guy people always called me wierd for shooting with both eyes open it's so much easier to lock on to your other targets and I have won like 6 competitions and I have been shooting for 3 years
In all of the clips shown for 'American Sniper', the rifle shown is a .338 Lapua, which has a fairly flat trajectory. Barometric pressure (basically, how humidity effects air thickness) has played a significant factor in the world records that were made. A Canadian sniper actually beat the record held by the US for longest shot with a .50 caliber in 2002. Oddly enough, the rifle was American made, match grade ammo (provided by the Americans he was supporting) was used to make the shot, and he was awarded a Bronze Star for supporting the American operation. Amusingly enough, that record was beaten by another Canadian sniper using the same kind of rifle.
Hes correct in this movie.. you dont need combat experience to know basic ballistics, most target shooters have a better knowledge of a variety of cartridge ballistics then any average rifleman. They only spend that training time on marksmen... its a cost thing it always is with the military they dont always make the best decisions... but the budget decisions.
Don't be a fan boy. He's correct and you would know it if you shot long. Rounds are floating around out there and all you can contribute as a shooter is consistency.
@@BonesTheCat damn straight. At that range, with all different shape and height buildings,ovens throwing heat up, allyways , streets , mirrage and whatever else , theres dozens of different wind patterns and eddies that cant be seen. Even at half that distance in those hot conditions no one could be 100% sure of a hit on an under 8 inch wide target . ( mabee if shot in a wind tunnel or vacume yeah)
BonesTheCat , every thing about shooting that he has said is correct. He never commented on concealment and tactics. That obviously snipers would know about. Most stuff is common sense though.
Very well done assessments. If you didn't notice, go to the final scene in the fancy log mansion where Bob Swagger shoots everyone and then walks out as the house explodes into flames. When he leaves the house, he has an AR15 strapped over his shoulder. When he's walking away the AR15 is gone. Hmmm, someone forgot! :)
@14:37 i showed this video to a friend of mine and he stated that even though these movies are made for entertainment, the reason mark wahlberg goes for the main rotor is because sometimes those helicopters are armoured.
Arkein15 That was a Great Flick!!!! Haven’t seen it in Ages,But is that the “Sniper”Movie(I think he did at least 2 more)where Billy Zane Shoots the guy from inside the Flying Helicopter??
Let’s just say he intentionally shut off the gas system to make it more accurate. Either that or the blanks he was using didn’t have enough pressure to operate the system. But let’s just say he shut off the gas on purpose.👍
I remember watching a breakdown on Shooter where they pointed out a discrepancy in the opening scene with the .50 cal. In the movie he has to cycle the weapon after every shot, despite the rifle being a semi. The reason was because the production didn't make a modified blank gun or a blank firing adapter before loading the weapon with blanks. There wasn't enough rearward pressure on the bolt to cycle the action with just the blanks. You can even see the blanks being ejected if you watch it slow enough.
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@ 19:08 What is the reason for the Duct tape being wrapped aroungd the handguard and barrel?? haha
I would like to
What of Jack Reacher?... do that one when chance arises
Correct me if I’m wrong but if you’re zeroed at 100 yards/meters won’t your round hit low at 75 yards, 50 yards, etc ?
Most realistic movie sniper scene is in Jarhead. A bunch of snipers screwing around in the desert only to have their target destroyed by CAS called in by a medal-hungry officer.
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Those medal hungry officers, lol! Too true!
The best part is the movie says that troops love anti-war movies cause they love that Apocalypse Now shit. So Jarhead is the only real anti-war movie because nothing cool happens, it's just boring and miserable.
@@Nick-jn2fq further masterbastion
This is kinda why I don't fault much of the stuff IMPACT SHOOTING faults. Lots of what's being complained about it a little bit like going to the movies and complaining that you didn't actually need hearing protection. Shooting at blurry shapes that are supposedly killing other people you can't see 12 hours of waiting? Nobody would go to see that. Your good guy(s) can't plug endless bad guys who are incapable of shooting back at him, otherwise, he really starts to look like a bad guy. The crappy muzzle flashes aren't there to portray reality, they're there to tell a story.
I believe the chest shots were more just related to Chris's book where he said most of the time he would aim center mass for easy shots
Yeah, pretty sure most snipers aim center of mass anyways
Blake Frey yeah they teach you to even aim center mass as its easier and quicker
Higher chance of hit probability
Almost always get taught to shoot center mass, much less likely to make a headshot
A good few of us train to shoot long range MOVING headshots. It's called "movement predictability" and makes the stationary torso shots MUCH easier.
"99% of us watching this channel could make that shot."
haha.... _I am the 1%_
Well my friend, with a little basic instruction it would be easy for you too 😋
IMPACT SHOOTING
With a lot of training !!! I know me.
IMPACT SHOOTING your positive attitude made my day 👏🏼👏🏼 Im actually a good (at the range, with no pressure, with good sights or scope etc) shot, but I’d enjoy training like I was a beginner 😋
I feel like “shooting 201” is hard to find!
Even I can pull off that shot. Atleast 4 years ago I could. 😅
LOL! Hmmm, O.k. Well then here, hand me that. I'll take your shot and you stay there and look cool... (We got this.)
"Most of us watching this channel would have made that shot"
Me who has never held a gun before: I know, right?
lol
In fact you would, trust me.
I gave my AR15 to my 17 year old daughter at the ranch at 200m. She had no experience with rifles, only pistols. 20 shots in more or less at the area of a palm.
I'm sure she would do better with my long range rifle though.
With some basic instructions and a reasonable rifle 100m is no challenge at all.
Harald Hofer her boyfriends will be scared of her and you lol.
@@crossonyx8463 good, right...? 😁
Harald Hofer hell yeah.
Hey Shooter, as a Marine and one from the Helicopter community I can say that shooting the rotorhead of a helicopter is the safest bet in this case (since it is a movie)
1- the rotors move so fast, that shooting a pilot through the blades is not feasible, and round deflection is 100% guarantee
2- if you shoot a pilot, you have a co-pilot to deal with, tactic of recovering from a shooting scenario such as this.would be to turn 90degrees from the point of impact, raise the nose, climb for distance and atmosphere interference, and then evasion tactical flight
3- this is only a movie, and as such what we are seeing is not usually undertaken in combat, as the best manner to engage a Helo is to try to shoot at it from the side or at least under the rotor arch, as it was wonderfully used in Vietnam and then in Afghanistan against the Russians.
Great video, and keep up the LRS
thanks for the reply mate, my Dad flies Helos too. Actually had hydraulic failure once and wrecked on. I remember how thick the honeycomb structure inside the rotor blade was. Your point is 100% valid, thanks for the comment. And thanks for your service of others!
100% round deflection is not true. Actually probability of hitting rotor is pretty low.. Chopper rotors run less than 1000rpm....high idle on a car. Early bi-planes machine guns shot through the propeller arc via a timing mechanism.
@@pro2a261You do realise how precise those timing mechanisms were? Myth busters tried replicating that exact thing with zero success, they destroyed the propeller 100% of their tests...
And yet everyone misses that he MISSED THE SHOT... He hit the tail rotor hub by some fluke, look at what is smoking and burning.
Hey Luis, as a former US Army soldier from the helicopter community (an enlisted helicopter mechanic then a warrant officer helicopter pilot) I can say the rotorheads are made of thick steel (or titanium on Apaches) because they have to support the weight of the helicopter and G forces while maneuvering and by far the NOT even close to a good bet for being destroyed by small arms fire.
Do not believe what you see in the movies. Bullets do not just spark and deflect off helicopters. Helicopter rotorblades are not made of steel (nor titanium) and are not bulletproof and certainly do NOT deflect bullets. Older helicopter rotor blades are thin aluminum alloy skin on aluminum honeycomb. Newer helicopter are composite fiber skins over composite honeycomb. Bullets will pass through rotor blades not be deflected. Also, the rotors move fast but bullets move much faster than rotor blades and there is a lot of space between blades of even a four blade system for bullets to pass.
Most helicopter windshields are thin plexiglass that will not stop bullets except Apache windshields which have thick laminated plexiglass.
The most effective evasive maneuver for a helicopter when taking fire is to immediately turn (which you typed) then fly behind cover (we called it "masking") NOT climb and expose yourself to more fire.
It’s seems like all these shooting movies use the Hubble telescope as there optic on their riffle.
ruslan kozodoy snipers use high powered scopes for the long range shots, so I think it’s depicted at least somewhat accurately
They need to make it that close for viewing purposes, if the shot is to zoomed out (realistic) people cant see it as well, because people are blind af
It’s the same thing with movies using cameras to take photos of stuff. They use a 50-100mm and get the details as if they took the photo with a 600mm lens
Hell in movies you have characters that can identify someone’s face from hundreds of metres away with their bare eyes. Shit I can’t see someone’s face over 60 metres away.
@@blakefrey1050 Not as high powered as depicted in these movies, a 60x spotting scope wouldn't give that type of zoom...
Dont worry guys I played Battlefield 4 before so I can safely say this is good creditable source
Ah yes good old Battlefield 4, where you have to lead your target by 2 metres at 100 hahaha
@@beardedbjorn5520 also aim with the 300 stadia line a 250m
Well I've played cod BO2 so I'm sort of an expert on anything military.
@@beardedbjorn5520 I play fortnite and call of duty. Does that count ????
@@ホフマン日向 u
Yes the u.s army does teach to aim at the chest because it's a bigger easier target that takes the combatants out of the fight , doesnt necessarily mean a army sniper wont hit a head shot.
Yeah if I’m not wrong the teach them that there is a triangle where nothing but vital organs there
Agreed, only a novice goes for the head when they can shoot at a larger target easier to hit. Aim small miss small.
Benjamin Cyrus it’s just faster too, when you have multiple targets as long as you land it in the triangle you’re hitting liver, lung or heart anyway so it’s a mortal wound (if it’s not immediately fatal then the person is dropped for a while and you can reengage if needed) take the time to land 3 headshots and you could have hit 6 body shots instead it’s just pointless going for the head
Benjamin Cyrus chris kyle was a navy seal
@@Pugrug. Navy Seal or not doesn't matter. In the Corps we trained similar, Head shots only when necessary. They are too easy to miss. At the range he was shooting in the movie and the angle of the shot he was aiming down slope and had a perfect lung shot with that 300.
The reason we in the military don’t aim for headshots is because, as any experienced shooter knows, you should always aim for center mass to maximize chances of hitting your target. If you aim for the head, it’s a much smaller target and more likely to miss, especially when the target is moving. And if you miss, then you’ve now given away your position and your target can get away.
Piet's point was that because it was such an easy close-range shot (~75m) and hardly moving, a head shot is much better as it's instant-kill, versus the body shot (Centre of Mass) as the victim could still fire their weapon immediately afterwards. I will leave it to you with your military expertise at sniping, and Piet an expert marksman, to argue the toss of where that line is, but Piet's point is valid.
Center mass, center mass, center mass
lol, just knowing you are talking to a pro shooter that won multiple NRL series. FYI we've always seen in the match, military guys tend to not finished very well in competition shooting =)
@@jingyinglu7129 competition shooting < shooting to kill and save your buddy’s life next to you and defend your country’s freedom
@@VainFriggus lmao, what does this "kill and save your buddy’s life next to you and defend your country’s freedom" have to do with being an expert in shooting?
RE American Sniper: This too was "based on a book" and in the Soldier of Fortune article published around the time the movie debuted, there were admissions that the "sniper conflict" was added into the movie story line. Chris Kyle did not complete the long-shot as it was depicted, and he never actually "faced off" against this enemy sniper. It was all put in for story content. He did complete a long range shot of this range or similar, but not under these circumstances...so, yeah, blame Hollywood for that too.
Why didn't they just shoot the targets for real in the training scene... like what lol. Then you would get realistic recoil and bullet hits. Not to mention probably way cheaper than rigging up timed explosives/cgi bullet hits. Certainly some military guys would be down to be in a movie, it's not like you need real actors for that particular scene. In fact in the most recent veterans react video by black rifle coffee the one Navy seal said he got ORDERED to go down and participate in Act of Valor.
Director probably knows jackshit about firearms. They probably shot it with 9mm from someone whom had it in there car. Also bravo. Not a bad idea to hire some ex military (or active duty) to take some simple shots. These movies are probably filmed in California though. We all know you cant do shit over there😂😂😂
@@Bikini_ST The director was Clint Eastwood, and Eastwood probably used gas guns so he could run a camera rig in front of the firing line. The idea of using a remote camera on a rig likely didn't occur to him since the guy learned film making in the 70s and 80s, remote camera rigs weren't a thing then so he's not super familiar with them.
Also a real range is more expensive to rent than a fake one, and you'd have to pay a firearms safety guy to be on scene for real rifles since even smart actors are half retarded.
They can't all be George Miller and shoot the whole thing chronologically with mostly practical effects and clever compositing. Plus Eastwood is much more an actors director, he's all about that tight direction for his performers with the rest kinda taking a back seat. That's why his movies have really good performances but kinda boring set design and cinematography.
Yea was his first official mission is i remember correctly 😂love BRCC😍
@@russetwolf13 very true, I do like Eastwood as a director though regardless. Although his experience would be 2 fold cus they were shooting for real a whole lot more at the height of his career.
@Southtown Hick honestly could be a factor, I recently watched a video about how movies have gotten suuuuuuper risk adverse now. Like back in the day if you needed a plane crash you'd stick a stunt pilot in that bitch and crash it now a days they would never allow such a thing. Look at the cessna crash in Iron Eagle that was a real dude flying a plane low AF out of control.
The most jarring thing for me when I started long range shooting was how very little magnification most optics have. Even 9x seems small for 450 yards (though since I've gotten really good at shooting 450 yards with iron sights on my AR-15). My brother and I tried a crack at the 1KYD high power range using his .30-06 Winchester XPR, and we learned real fast that beyond 600 yards, a spotter scope is absolutely critical, as at 1KYDs, we had no idea where the bullets were going (couldn't even see the dirt kick up at such a long range through his 9x Leupold).
This was jarring, because all my life, I imagined sniping to be like it's shown in movies and video games; it is not... at all. It's actually quite difficult, and requires a lot of math and knowledge of your rifle, ammo, and environment. Gave me a real appreciation for the guys who figured out how to launch a probe to Mars. I'd call that a moon shot, but that's even more impressive! You know your shot is long when it requires calculating the rotation of more than one planet, lol!
1x per 100 yards is a good baseline for a 1 moa gun. Nice and comfy but more is nice.
To be fair, spacecraft aren't like a rifle shot. The spacecraft course gets corrected many times during the trip.
And here I am thinking about ordering a new 5-25 for my 22 at 25 yards 🤣
@@juanvaldez6321 Lol! Yeah, that's a bit absurd for a .22LR! I would recommend you practice with your irons first, and practice fundamentals like trigger control, breathing, and most importantly (that I've found) is getting a consistent cheek weld.
I've put off long range shooting for now, and have been practicing fundamentals using the CMMG .22LR conversion kit for my AR-15, and shooting at short range (25-50 yards) at dynamic targets.
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I've since sold the RDS, as I've found I actually prefer the A2/A3 style rear sight with a Magpul MBUS Pro up front. Some of the targets are just slightly wider than the bullet itself, and they've been a good measure for improvement.
As for training with .22LR, I'm doing that because of the economic benefits. $50 will get me 1,100 rounds of .22LR, while $60 gets me 150 rounds of 5.56mm. I have already seen vast improvement in my skills, and as long as I'm zeroed properly, I've been getting tighter and tighter groups when switching over to 5.56 to the point I can now shoot the 8" steel gong at 300 yards about 80% of the time with irons, and the 18" gong at 300 nearly 100% (occasionally there will be a flyer, or I just have a bad shot).
Both my brother and I have been practicing, because we want to be able to consistently hit the 8" gong at 450 yards with his .30-06 and 9x scope before elk hunting season. Where we live, it's not uncommon to take elk beyond 350 yards, and we want to ensure a clean kill at those ranges.
I'm still a pretty new shooter, and have a lot of improvement to make. I only started shooting (and bought my first gun) at age 34, and now I'm 35. Those of you who've been shooting since you were kids are incredibly lucky, and I have a lot of catching up to do.
@@Gottaculat I have a feeling Peter might be one of those guys that shoots ultra precision .22lrs, we are talking shooting match heads off at 25 and 50yrds and splitting toothpicks in half. Some of those guys have special scopes that go up to 50x so they can see those microscopic targets at 50+ yards.
I do agree that iron sight and trigger fundamentals are something that needs practice and is very beneficial. My favorite gun to shoot is my old bolt .22lr it is indecent how precise it is even with bulk ammo (eg. it can hit a 300yrd 1/2 size sillouet gong repeatedly from a kneeling position, albeit with no wind and I usually have to walk the rounds in initially), trigger on it is decent, nothing like the 10oz on the long gun but crisp enough to practice good trigger pulls on.
Sounds like you are on the right track to shooting well though, so keep it up!!
Chris Kyle wasn’t an army sniper. He was a Navy SEAL sniper
and a fucking liar. lol
@@kamerabawahtanahTrue however you can't deny that he was a good sniper
OMGitsKimmy FTW why is that?
@@kamerabawahtanah what did he lie about?
@@jacobhayes8324 He said he beat up Jesse Ventura (also a former SEAL) in a bar in his book. Kyle swore it was true but 0 people backed up his story, whereas multiple other SEAL's that were there when Kyle and Ventura met backed up Jesse's account that they just met briefly and that was that. He also claimed to have killed a bunch looters during Katrina and that is unconfirmed as well. It's like the guys that were cooks on a ship, then later in life claim to have been SEALs. He already was a SEAL so decided to fabricate stories to make himself larger than life.
“Why not go for the head shot?” Center mass is the way we’re taught usually. Understandable why it would be confusing, but from a logical standpoint, a .308 is going to drop just about anyone without armor with a center mass shot. Even if it doesn’t kill them, they’re definitely incapacitated.
this guy happens to be a pro shooter and ranks number 5 in the south Africa NRL division. he knows his stuff, lmao
@@jingyinglu7129 but was he a military sniper?
US Military training is go for center mass (the larger target) first, headshots are stopping shots. Also in the movie they predominantly showed Chris using his Tac-338 in .338 LM
I think the recoil thing is a lot like how actors drive in film. They move the wheel all over the place, when if you’re really driving, the goal is to keep it straight and not jerk around.... it’s probably for the audience. I’d imagine if the audience saw real long range shooting, they’d not believe it was realistic....
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when you were talkign about why he didn't shoot the pilot, the co-pilot would of been able to table over so he would of had to shoot them booth and hope they still coudlnt flt when they are woudned
If you notice Bob Lee swagger has a semi auto Barrett 50 cal. Why is he pulling back the charging handle ?
Mark's also left handed. And in the scene where the soldiers or surrounding them in the woods. Bob Lee Swagger spotter did not have a boat in his gun. and a bottle will not make a silencer even on the 22.
@@suicidalbunny99 I agree I think they made the right choice by shooting the prop axle of the chopper.
223 DMR according to the films technical advisor the .50 appears being pulled back because it kept jamming during filming meaning Mark had to pull it back manually. He also changes to left handed (because marks Left handed naturally, making it easier). He starts the film righty, and is shot early on in the right shoulder so means marks using his dominant side for most of the film. Edit: haven’t watched impacts follow-up video (yet!), so he’s maybe covered it.
mark wahlberg is left handed so he’s using his correct side, except for when he shoots with his right side
In the book, Bob Lee Swagger starts shooting on his left side because of his gunshot injury to his right shoulder.
I’m left handed and shoot right handed..
Another thing I always noticed was the guy was assassinated with an m82a1(50 bmg) right?....but lees m200 was a 408. So how did he even get framed in the first place? The rifles aren't even the same caliber lol. Did they not pull the bullet from the corpse and see it was a 50?? Like what the fuck haha.
Wow! Everyone missed that! Well spotted! Thanks for adding it, I pinned it.
@@IMPACTSHOOTING Thanks, I always thought that was a plot hole. I actually owned both calibers in my old M96 Windrunner, if you're not familiar with the rifle its pretty much the grandfather of the m200. EDM ARMS made most of the receivers for cheytac. I use an M18 Windrunner in 50 bmg now.
And I'm so glad you pointed out how the movies always get the field of view wrong in the long shots.
In the movie they recover the expended .408 round from the can of food you show him shoot. They then wrap the round in a kind of wax paper wadding that makes it just large to be fired from the .50 Cal. The idea was that the original .408 round would match Lee's barrel and not the M82A1 it was fired from as the paper would protect the round as from the .50 barrel rifling. The wax paper would then incinerate or fall away upon leaving the barrel and while in flight. If you re-watch the movie it's mentioned. They talk about it when they go to the old guy's house who supposedly buried Kennedy's shooters and "still has the shovel". disclaimer: this is how it is explained in the movie. I did not write or participate in the making of this movie...LOL!
@@davidneuzil9490 There are sooo many things wrong about that, but that's Hollywood lmao. But I get what youre saying. Can't imagine throwing a 408 bullet down a 50 barrel and having it shoot straight. 😂
@@davidneuzil9490 That's basically hollywood bullshit. Even if they really get to do that, it would really destroy accuracy so much I doubt it'll even be effective at 500 yards. Seriously, what the fuck.
Yeah in fairness, this was the kind of *expert* level and quantity of detailed feedback I would expect FROM an expert. Far far better expert analysis than I've seen from other reviewers who have had long military service.
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Thank you sir! About time I do another one of these
Piet, the main thing American Sniper got wrong is that in the way they showed it, Chris Kyle didn’t make the longest shot, the enemy sniper did. Remember that when the enemy sniper shoots the guys off the ladder, he shot from behind Chris Kyle, so his shot was equal to the distance Chris shot sniper from plus the distance the guy in ladder was from Chris Kyle. I know it’s a movie, but enemy sniper should not have been behind Chris or his shot would have been way further than Chris’ shot, in which case enemy sniper should get the record, and not Chris. Enemy sniper did it with a much smaller rifle too. 😁
Good stuff. 👍
Canadian snipers don't seem to have a problem hitting targets over 2000m.
Yeah I don’t think he was sorry either
With American ammunition haha
Well sorry eh
ChadCarney2001 but with Canadian skill haha
EthanS2005 makes the streets run caramel brown with maple syrup
US: We have the best snipers in the world!
UK: Sorry mate, but pretty sure we got betta snipa's than yous
Canada: *visible confusion at the US and UK after casually crushing their records by a 40-60% and holding 3 of the top 5 places*
vi fair *Australian laughs in anti-materiel high-explosive incendiary armour-piercing ammunition*
US had 2 of the best snipers, Kyle, and Hathcock. Name your two.....
I'll even add Timothy Murphy.
And
US Started snipers with Berdan Sharpshooters
Yes a Canadian has longest confirmed kill, but it was done with American Marine Ammo, because they are a hotter round.
@@coppertopv365 none of those are the best neither by most kills or by distance. Distance solidly belongs to canada for decades, kills simi hayha or possibly petrovska
@@mondaysinsanity8193 it is Simo Häyhä
When you said you didn’t know why he didn’t go for the headshot. I’m Chris kyles autobiography he says that you don’t actually go for headshots you go for the chest because its a bigger target
infact the marine sniper training manuals emphasised body shots though if your engaging a target lying prone youd go for the head cause itsa larger target
Riley Starlin the reason you go for chest is it’s a bigger target, second your chest is more predictable with movement, third military uses high end armor piercing rounds so it will go through anyways. Lastly I don’t think I guy with a gunshot wound to the stomach or anywhere upper body could shoot a rpg before a second shot goes off from the sniper.
You were spot on about the movie except for the finger on the trigger, some SMU'S give you a choice finger tip or the middle of your finger you get a better hand hold using the middle plus quicker trigger engagement and reset and the finger moves less distance to accomplish it, shoot what works for you, there is no right way or wrong way, thanks for the great video.
Except that in the hollywood scene the rifles DONT have muzzle brakes while your pro rig DOES have a muzzle break. Whats the difference? About half or less recoil for a given caliber. Might have been not the most direct comparison. but yes they have over done it. Quick search on the internet, some military helicopters DO have bullet resistant cockpit/cabins, going for the pilot may or may not actually kill, but good chance that 50 BMG would penetrate. On the plus side, hitting the windshield would have at least obscured the pilots vision and shaken his confidence.
Also shooting through windshields has been shown to dramatically change the trajectory of a bullet. Even more if the cockpit is built to withstand bullets
That would take some seriously heavy glass to stop a .50 BMG, not too sure what it would do for the heli's flight characteristics
I'd sure like to see the helicopter window specs that will stop a 700 grain .50 bullet at any range. Go ahead, bring them on. I'll wait.
And, yes, shooting through a vast number of things will cause the bullet trajectory to alter. But I think with 5x the energy of a 7.62x51mm rifle bullet, the wad of hurtling steel/DU or lead will not deflect enough in 4 feet to miss the pilot after passing through his lexan windshield. Watch some Demolition Ranch videos. He shoots down a tree with a .50BMG. As well as other things.
That Heli isnt designed to fly fast enough to where a broken cockpit windshield will cause the chopper to fly uncontrollably. An exploded pilot, or rotor hub, will, however.
@@tinkerjeeppublications9823 The AH64 Apache can withstand at least 12.7mm (50bmg) to the glass, and the Mi-24 Hind can stop up to the Russians 14.5mm antiaircraft round. So basically all of the relevant modern attack helicopters.
Attack helicopter cockpit glass is typically multiple layers of different types of bulletproof glass, and it's multiple inches thick. I can personally attest that the thick-ass bulletproof glass used in the windows of an MRAP can stop the 12.7x108mm that the DShK fires.
Demolition Ranch even has a video of him shooting some bulletproof glass that stops (one) .50 bmg hit. Second one wins, though.
the scene where bob lee swayger shoots at the helicopter in shooter. He is using the M107 which is a semi auto .50cal, I noticed in movie that he pulls the bolt after every shots like it a bolt action lol.
Actually, because of sand and the fact that he was shooting blanks, he had to rack the bolt for each shot. It wouldn't cycle on its own.
@@CR3W1SH03S What kind of blanks have you shot?
@@gabe7787 I can't speak for him but I have shot 5.56, 7.62 and .50 cal blanks, and they have much less blowback. You need a gas-stop screwed into the end of the barrel to cause enough force to fully cycle the round, and even those aren't always effective. And the sand also comes into play, it can prevent a normal round from cycling correctly.
Correct.
Without a Blank Fire device on the muzzle end, very few firearm's actions will cycle at all, and the few that do generate enough impetus to start it to recoil rearward, usually just fail to extract & eject, and thus likely cause a 'stovepipe' stoppage, or possibly a double-feed.
If you look into the barrel of most movie guns, especially rifles, you can see that just before the end of the barrel, its blocked up with a small forcing cone, and only a much smaller hole than the rifle's actual barrel caliber is letting out hot gasses, under more pressure.
This is part of why movie guns always have such large muzzle flashes, (even when its not CGI).
An easy find example is the original Arnie Predator movie, after the scene where they work to lay 'boy scout bullshit' traps for the predator using the jungle, and their crouched waiting & talking, there is a shot where you can clearly see the gas forcing cone inserted in the barrel of his rifle..so it will function reliably with the blanks, and it is usually positioned at just the right place to allow the gas to vent firmly under tighter pressure, right into the flash hider on the end of the barrel, forcefully giving it that created, starshaped flash everyone knows & loves!
There are many other movies too, where you can see this device, just down the muzzles of blankfire movie guns..
Because they can't work without it
Once you start looking, you'll see them everywhere!
Have fun. Dont let it ruin the movies for you watching for it though..
Put simply.. Without this pressure build up in the barrel, as there would be building up behind a bullet, it would just all vent out the end, like a hot gas fart, and there would be virtually ZERO gas impingement or blowback to work a bolt..just like the bolt in the Barrett M107 rifle in Shooter..
Now you know.
I wonder how Chris Kyle would feel about the production quality of this movie.
Overall, probably pretty good, I know there are some definite errors here and there but most of it is pretty solid.
So true story but not how it happened. I think he would be more upset with the story being retold inaccurately. The guy he shot at that distance was not the Olympic shooter. I know Hollywood lol
Chris Kyle was a lying sociopath who loved killing people . I'm sorry he was killed . Its tragic but NO ONE should work with PTSD patients without proper medical training and they certainly should not hand them loaded weapons. Ask any seal team member what 90- 95% of his job is and the answer will be training.
brian milligan Chris Kyle is not a sociopathic liar. He suffered from severe PTSD and overcame it. If you knew anything about snipers then you would realize they build stories about their targets. It keeps from getting distracted and it makes it easier. In a lot of cases the sniper ends up convincing himself of the story as a coping mechanism. The man was an incredible soldier and accomplished incredible things. He even overcame PTSD and worked with others to overcome it. It just so happened that one guy got the drop on him and his friend that day and killed them both. I believe Chris even texted his friend to “watch his 6” because he could tell this guy was a little off. The guy got the drop on them.
brian milligan You don’t know what you’re talking about dude. Go troll somewhere else bitchass.
This is the first video of yours that I have ever seen, I really like how detailed you get with it
Thanks dude!
Me: *sees shooter in the thumbnail of a breakdown video*
Also Me: This is where the fun begins.
If you read Chris Kyles book, he says he never aimed for the head. He always aimed center mass because you have more room to work with. The rounds always had enough stopping power anyways.
What if your target have an armor ?
@Glider FS
From what I've read most us soldiers have level 3a armor
Which does not stop anything over .44 magnum
So basically most rifle rounds will go through
Plus most terrorists don't have sophisticated body armor
@@prestondoring2640 I can only speak for the army but ours we're rated to stop up to 30.06 armor piercing
joe shmo huh maybe I misread then
Still terrorist don’t have that sort of armor unless they are being backed by someone
Or stole them off of body’s
@@prestondoring2640 you know I didn't even see the part where you we're talking about terrorist. I suppose that's why you should always get all the info.
Awesome vid dude.
That window not popping is hilarious
Great breakdown even for me as a non shooter viewer
Am I the only one who couldn't ignore, Jesse Pinkman Looking through his face at me all the time ?
Come on. Thats Heisenberg's guy.
I don't know man... I'm seeing Stephen Amell from Arrow. Also... Awesome that Piet is from Cape Town, South Africa. Represent boet!
Agree with everything. There is even more Piet isn't mentioning. From the rooftop in a prone position, how are you seeing down onto the streets so close? Hollywood should really hire and listen to the experts. Rock on Piet 🤘😎
Tire squeal on gravel roads got me good. Something I never thought about even having driven on them so much. Now I have a feeling I'll never miss it in movies.
apparently everybody in this comment section is a sniper
Looks like most of them are just repeating the same "The Army trains you to shoot center mass." comment. Saying this is also a good way to start a dick measuring contest in the comments.
Can't relate : (
Lololol
Im a sniper
In call of duty
Aah finally redemption lol
Please go through some of the shooter episodes from the tv series. There are some interesting facts and errors throughout that series as well. Much more to dissect and create a few more easy videos for you as well.
Thank you for your hard work.
In American Sniper the shot was actually 2100 yards
USA Freedom Forever he said that??
It used to be the longest confirmed sniper kill
Yes he said 1900m or just a shade under 2100 yards.
@@ProdigyReflexz it wasnt. several confirmed kills years before it were significantly longer.
had no clue about this channel until this vid popped up in my recommendations and very glad I caught it.
Boom!!! Welcome to the channel!!!
You missed something,In the movie "Shooter" mark is trying to shoot the helicopter with the .50 cal Barrett although it's an semiauto rifle but he is cocking the rifle for every shot.
i've heard the explanation for that is that in movies they shoot blank rounds, which don't have enough blowback to cycle the bolt, so it has to be done manually.
All of this clips are possible to get headshot easily with my Call of Duty 5+ years experience as a sniper.
Hahaha, my Battlefield 4 hours translate well down range :-)
And no pansy bullet drop either
As an expert CS:GO marksman I can confidently claim that RL snipers seriously neglect the highly effective tactic of AWP wall banging. 😉
I've read Chris's book the 2100 yd shot was an Iraqi on the roof of a one story house with an rpg.
and as he stated "a complete luck shot"
@@pcvanrooyen6947 he literally said that he was just shooting to try and scare the guy down if I remember right.
13:20 honestly, cars on gravel or dirt, if it’s packed enough, does still squeal like that. I have done this myself and yes it surprised me a great deal when it happened.
Typically happens on a smooth rock in the road.
One thing I had a problem with in shooter towards the end is... Whalberg is running around that house planting IED's with his rifle slung muzzle down. At least once he drops to his knees and the weapon sling goes limp meaning he planted the barrel of his weapon in the dirt! There's a reason the military slings their weapons with the muzzle up!
In the book his longest shot wasn't on the Olympic Sniper. It was on a random group of guys. And you're right, Chris did say it was a luck shot. The Olympic sniper was briefly mentioned in the book.
With the whole “why didn’t he shoot the pilot”, the cyclic is combined with the copilot as well and the copilot would easily be able to continue so he would have to take an extra shot.
Given the fact that the scope he is using for the “one mile “ shot is a night force nxs 5.5x22x50, the soup can is a max of 200 yards away. Also,the time of flight is around 3.25 seconds until impact at 2000 meters.
The Canadian that did the 3,450 meter shot was on top of a tall apartment building shooting down into a valley. He fired 4 or five shots before he made the kill but the targets did not take cover or hide after he missed. They figure he had to have his cross hairs 3 to 4 scope optics above the target to make the kill. The Canadian did not want to have his name released.
I don’t know if anyone else has remarked about it, but I appreciated your demonstrating that even with an exceptionally precise rifle, ammunition, and shooter, beyond certain distances chance (luck) will invariably play a role because of the natural bullet dispersion cone. This is something that is almost never discussed in accounts of long range sniper kills. Louis Pasteur is credited with saying, “Chance favors the prepared mind,” and chance certainly favors the best shot with the best equipment, but when natural bullet dispersion can put the bullet outside the target zone, then chance has the final say. Thank you. I notice some things in these movies, but you obviously have the better, more discerning eye.
I don't know if this was mentioned in the comments or not, but the screen in Shooter where Mark's character was shooting at the help was theoretically correct. The 50 Cal was designed for Special Operations because they wanted a portable weapon system that could "take out" aircraft. If you wanted to "seize" the craft you would shoot through the fuselage stopping a plane from pressuring and able to take off. Later fixing the holes in the fuselage. If you wanted to disable the aircraft you would shoot at the engine/motor the most vital part of any aircraft severally damaging the motor/engine. The scene in Shooter made perfect sense. The helicopter wasn't pressurized so a shot at the helo's engine was bring it down. Even if the pilot was able do a controlled crash, the bird wouldn't be airborne any time soon.
Head shots are last resort shots. Your taught to shoot center mass when your training to be a "sniper."
Makes sense
Yeah bigger target easier to hit
Sounds like a whole lot of bullshit to me guy.
@@incomingwarlord1701 its not bullshit. Marine snipers are taught to always go for center mass.
Not only snipers, but all kind of guns. You are taught to shoot 3 bullets to center mass in order to kill
Great video, the Chris Kyle shot in the movie is a dramatization, he did a 1900m shot, but it was different in the book, no Olympic Shooter guy, just Hollywood making their interpretation of a +-2km shot.
I love how you called out Mark Wahlberg on his gun views vs how he makes money.
This was very witty and funny. I especially liked the tidbit about how real suppressors aren’t that quiet because my buddy in CoD Warzone recently said “dude, there’s no way you have a monolithic suppressor on that HDR! You’re giving away our position!” He was obviously very wrong.
When the instructor told him to get his off eye closed that’s also wrong in another way, because even as a marine scout sniper we were trained to keep both eyes open as that is one of the main rules of being a sniper. You’ll have to be aware of your surroundings to protect yourself and the infantrymen.
My grandfather taught me to shoot and always said to keep both eyes open, its something you have to work at though because it doesn't feel right.
What schoolhouse you go to?
thought this was Peter mckinnons channel when the intro started
1192 Visuals fully stole the intro from Peter 😂
One of my big complaints with "Shooter" was, "I changed the firing pin before I left the house. I always do. It looks right but you need a micrometer to tell."
The truth is that you would have to take off several thousandths of an inch to sufficiently reduce the amount of protrusion the firing pin would have in order to render the firearm harmless. You would measure that large of a difference with Calipers not a micrometer. I should know. I did it with a lathe on an AR15 firing pin several years ago.
Not true. As a retired machinist I have a set of micrometers from 0 to 12 inches
@@chrisgautier7942 fair, but what is their measurement increments? Hundredths, thousandths, ten thousandths? In order to prevent firing with my AR I had to reduce the length by almost 20 thousandths (.020 in) can't recall the exact measurements as it was years ago.
@@singingwolf3929 The least of them is 0.001 and the best is 50 millions
Should do the sniper scene from “Hurt Locker”. I think it’s prob one of the best sniper scenes in military cinema
Das_Edelweiss it’s kinda dumb that the EOD movie did sniping more accurately than most sniper movies. But hey they actually miss and dial in the scope etc it’s good to see it
@@user-ns3vs3bp3e it was a great scene, but that movie is chock full of inaccuracies you'd make Angry Cops cry.
@@julian23561 Angry Cops!! Haha love his stuff.
Das_Edelweiss no the hurt locker is a bomb defusal movie American sniper is a true story rip kris
That movie sucks
Good breakdown.. Another thing I often notice in movies, and is seen several times in this video, The cross hairs are tracking a moving target and yet the rifle remains motionless when it cuts back to the shooter..
I love your videos mate and one thing I picked up in Shooter is the fact that Mark is single racking the Barrett M107 in that opening sequence, seeing that rifle with a half open bolt is very funny to me as they always slam forward after an ejected round and don’t have a hold open feature once they have an empty magazine. On the range a spent case on its side is often used to hold the bolt open so the action can be determined that it has been cleared
You kind of picked the wrong guy for this. He’s still mostly correct but there’s a few things a competition shooter wouldn’t know.
Exactly.... we’re talking anxiety, time, and fear of missing the shot and risk getting your troops killed
Yeah; I feel they would have had a better bet with someone like Nicholas Irving.
At around 18:34 he’s purposely changing / removing the firing pin as a plot point for later in the movie when they try to frame him with that rifle.
"Luck"
Makes me think of legendary South African Golfer Gary Player: "Well, the harder I practice, the luckier I get"
That's a terrific quote, I'm going to use that.
Well that's just another way of saying the better you are at something the less "luck" you need. That doesn't discount luck altogether.
Hi, awesome video. One minor correction, I live in Florida and we have to shoot snakes fairly often on our property. I'd say more often than not, snakes (especially Rattlesnakes, and Cottonmouths) actually do jump up off the ground like that when they're shot. Not due to the force of the bullet hitting them, but due to the snakes fast twitch muscle/nerves going crazy after decapitation. Now, I've never seen one clear the ground like that, but ive seen snakes shot with everything from a .300 to a .25, all the way to 00 buckshot and I've never seen one disintegrate or explode beyond recognition either.
Your content is gold. Expert opinions. Much appreciated. You need to create more content. Hello from Papua New Guinea!
Anyone gonna talk about how mark hand cycled a semi auto 50 cal 😂
tinny blacksmith I was going to comment on that but then I saw you already did
I think they were using blanks, not enough gas to cycle the bolt.
The gun kept malfunctioning because the blanks didn’t have enough pressure to actually cycle the bolt
@@whateveryea9745 and the fact that all sorts of shit went flying everywhere added to constant malfunctions, the editors just decided to make it seem that he was cycling the weapon every shot.
Everyone knows Sub-Sonic .60 BMG rounds won't cycle the bolt.
Oh wait, was he shooting suppressed then? It might with a suppressor fitted!
it is sometimes painful what Hollyweird does with their entertainment license to change up reality for the sake of creativeness.
I feel this guy has said "You have failed this city" at least once before shooting someone
Hahaha, love that series
I liked what you had to say until you said “maybe it’s army protocol or something” Chris was a navy seal...
When you were talking about Olympic shooting I can vouch because I shoot Olympic air pistol and small bore pistol and trigger control and finger placement is incredibly crucial
I have fired a 1973 vintage Soviet Dragunov 15 years ago with a PSO-1. The rifle is a very capable system but the scope is very out of date because of the 4X fixed power scope. The magnification was average and the glass was old so it had a slight brown tinting around the sides but good enough to eliminate parallax. The cut of the lines in the glass was fine of the vertical and top horizontal lines with the stadia leads along with the range finder on the left. The aiming points were clear also provided that there were no shade if the target was in the shadows. If there were shadows to conceal the aiming points and windage hash marks then I would have to turn on the illuminator to get the contrast on where the aiming points and hash marks are along. Like shooting in low light conditions. Lucky that day I had the wind coming from my back to front so no cross winds. The targets were fresh E-Type OD Green pop up targets with plywood backing so when hit they would register the shot and go down. We were on the multipurpose machinegun and sniper range so we had targets all the way up to 1200 meters. The ammo we used were Hungarian silver and yellow band 147 grain bullets. I think theses were machinegun ammo because after a few rounds I had to reset the gas regulator because it had a violent recoil. At 100 meters I adjusted the scope to shoot center on an NRA B-27 paper target to 2 inches/51mm best after moving from 6 inches/151mm left and 7 inches/179mm up with 12 rounds. One round hits from 300 to 500 meters, 2 rounds from 600 to 800, 3-5 rounds from 900 to 1200 meters. The trigger feels better than an average AK, way better than a stock M16A2, and equal to that of a match grade M1A/M21. I was impressed for one day of shooting. I would be great with this rifle after 4-5 days with proper Soviet or Eastern Bloc match grade ammo. I respected this rifle and been very careful when I was in Iraq. Only the best marksmen were given these rifles. The choke sight range finder was very helpful. It is the same type of sights on Soviet tanks for range finding and estimation and the M1A1 Abrams auxiliary sight. The Soviet and current Russian Federation Army employs one or two of these in their infantry platoons. Very good rifle for a designated marksman. It would be really deadly if it had better variable quality optics.
Fun fact: Chris used 3.5-10x optic at 1920 m shot. And certain optics can spot target at such range. Vortex Golden Eagle has 15-60x magnification.
Vortex sales rep spotted.
If you’re using a Barrett, why would you go for the pilot when you can just shred through the helicopter with the 50BMG
Cause Why not both
In the scene in question, Bob Lee isn't using a Barrett. So, shooting the pilot would be the way to go.
In the Army we are trained to shoot for Center Mass not headshots.
Same with the Navy, as far as i know we all use the same ROE.
It would be standard training amongst all forces for center mass shots, larger target harder to miss. A body wound will typical take a target out of the fight as much as a kill shot would, pending severity.
Why?
@@roxasparks I'm guessing your asking why a body wound is almost as effective as a kill shot?
If you take a round into the chest cavity there's a high chance of a lung puncture or diaphragm puncture either one may not be an initial kill however you wouldn't be able to breath properly, as such your body won't be able to function properly as such holding a gun even a pistol is a difficult task to say the least. A gut shot of untested in sufficient time will be a slow painful death, typical unless is on an appendage most wounds would stop a person in there tracks. Most stories of people functioning after being wounded are injuries that are lucky to miss nearly all vital organs and pathways, however blood loss can be a problem over time.
General marksmen in all branches are trained to shoot center mass. I'm no sniper, but I imagine snipers are trained a bit differently though.
Thank you my guy people always called me wierd for shooting with both eyes open it's so much easier to lock on to your other targets and I have won like 6 competitions and I have been shooting for 3 years
In all of the clips shown for 'American Sniper', the rifle shown is a .338 Lapua, which has a fairly flat trajectory. Barometric pressure (basically, how humidity effects air thickness) has played a significant factor in the world records that were made.
A Canadian sniper actually beat the record held by the US for longest shot with a .50 caliber in 2002. Oddly enough, the rifle was American made, match grade ammo (provided by the Americans he was supporting) was used to make the shot, and he was awarded a Bronze Star for supporting the American operation. Amusingly enough, that record was beaten by another Canadian sniper using the same kind of rifle.
I love how it’s always “there’s no way that would *ever* happen.” then says he has absolutely no combat experience at all.
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the shooting not the combat
Hes correct in this movie.. you dont need combat experience to know basic ballistics, most target shooters have a better knowledge of a variety of cartridge ballistics then any average rifleman. They only spend that training time on marksmen... its a cost thing it always is with the military they dont always make the best decisions... but the budget decisions.
Don't be a fan boy. He's correct and you would know it if you shot long. Rounds are floating around out there and all you can contribute as a shooter is consistency.
@@BonesTheCat damn straight. At that range, with all different shape and height buildings,ovens throwing heat up, allyways , streets , mirrage and whatever else , theres dozens of different wind patterns and eddies that cant be seen. Even at half that distance in those hot conditions no one could be 100% sure of a hit on an under 8 inch wide target . ( mabee if shot in a wind tunnel or vacume yeah)
BonesTheCat , every thing about shooting that he has said is correct. He never commented on concealment and tactics. That obviously snipers would know about. Most stuff is common sense though.
Thought I was watching a Peter McKinnon video from that intro
I saw that too... crazy copy
19:03 - he gets shot in the right shoulder earlier in the film, after that, he does all his shooting left handed.
Very well done assessments. If you didn't notice, go to the final scene in the fancy log mansion where Bob Swagger shoots everyone and then walks out as the house explodes into flames. When he leaves the house, he has an AR15 strapped over his shoulder. When he's walking away the AR15 is gone. Hmmm, someone forgot! :)
Lead can be all over a 360 degrees… I agree with almost everything you state.. great breakdown.
My dad was in the army, he said that your trained to “aim large miss small” always aim for the body no matter what
Which army was that ? Mexico
Raven Tactical Prepper Channel, he was in the US army
@@sharpeigamer4841 aim large ?
Eh, no. Aim SMALL, miss SMALL.
SFC, USA (Ret)
18E, SOTIC Cert.
Intro and logo looks exactly like Peter Mckinnon
This is GREAT STUFF Piet!
Are we not gonna talk about how smooth that watch reattach was
This was great!!!! Nothing better than hearing how it REALLY is!!! thanks slot!!!!
Anyone here every played command and conquer? Mark Wahlberg was just trying to be like the commandos 'That was left handed!'
And... 408 cheytac and 50 BMG aren't interchangeable, so the whole the whole "theres no firing pin in the bolt" is redundant in the end 😂
In shooter, I always figured he shot left handed in the snow scenes because he had been shot in the right shoulder earlier in the movie.
It's actually because Mark is left handed and it worked out better to see is face and let him shoot dominate hand.
@14:37 i showed this video to a friend of mine and he stated that even though these movies are made for entertainment, the reason mark wahlberg goes for the main rotor is because sometimes those helicopters are armoured.
Try watching the Shooter scene again and listen for the spotter calling “push 2 left”. There’s the indicated lead call.
This guy is definitely South African
Great video, what about Sniper 1993 with Tom Berenger?
Arkein15 That was a Great Flick!!!! Haven’t seen it in Ages,But is that the “Sniper”Movie(I think he did at least 2 more)where Billy Zane Shoots the guy from inside the Flying Helicopter??
@@echochambers8418 yes, it is!
You forgot Bob Lee manually operating the Barrett while shooting at the chopper. Lol Good vid tho
Let’s just say he intentionally shut off the gas system to make it more accurate. Either that or the blanks he was using didn’t have enough pressure to operate the system. But let’s just say he shut off the gas on purpose.👍
I remember watching a breakdown on Shooter where they pointed out a discrepancy in the opening scene with the .50 cal. In the movie he has to cycle the weapon after every shot, despite the rifle being a semi. The reason was because the production didn't make a modified blank gun or a blank firing adapter before loading the weapon with blanks. There wasn't enough rearward pressure on the bolt to cycle the action with just the blanks. You can even see the blanks being ejected if you watch it slow enough.
I was so happy to hear someone else complain about squealing tires on gravel. My favourite is when they squeal on grass.
Come on Guys! Let's be realistic.it's just a movie !!!
With movie producers trying to make the film realistic
So...you just straight up stole Peter McKinnon's intro huh?
The first couple of seconds into this video I paused...
Hmm... This guy... Is South African...
I was right ^_^
Lekker man. :)
Goeie video.
Vic Ribeiro I thought so! 🇿🇦🇿🇦 recognize that Saffa accent anywhere.
This has to be one of my favorite videos. I hope you do more!
First time watching. Thank you. You come off as very professional.