Even more fun fact: the vikings weren't the first to set foot on north America. That honor goes to the various Asians who who crossed the bering strait when it was dry land 10's of thousands of years ago.
justanotherlikeyou actually they’ve found accent European artifacts on the east coast which they continue to hide. Both Asians and Europeans were in America at the same time. The Europeans lost though.
“It’s unfair to judge someone who lived 500 years ago by today’s standards.” Not sure about Mr Knowles but I have heard Dennis Prager talk at length about the existence of an Objective Morality.
“I was filled with a desire to take my pleasure with her and attempted to satisfy my desire. She was unwilling, and so treated me with her nails that I wished I had never begun. I then took a piece of rope and whipped her soundly, and she let forth such incredible screams that you would not have believed your ears. Eventually we came to such terms, I assure you, that you would have thought she had been brought up in a school for whores.” (Referring to a child by the way) You guys are celebrating a 15th century Jeffrey Epstein
At 3:58 That rhetoric is comical. Imagine Nuremburg, 1946. Prosecution: "What did you do to 10,000,000 political opponents, Gypsies, Jews, and POWs?" Defense: "We didn't invent concentration camps."
The point of not judging Columbus by contemporary moral standards is mute given that he was largely admonished by even European print outlets of his time
@@thenonartist4366 Not Really. The Hidalgos weres jealous of him because he wasnt spanish and didnt let them do what they want. He even hanged some of them for mistreating Natives. Thats why they wanted get rid of gim. But Queen Isabella freed him you racist liar.
studying history will sometimes make you feel uncomfortable. studying history will sometimes make you feel deeply upset. studying history will sometimes make you feel extremely angry. if studying history always you fell proud and happy, you probably not studying history.
@@space4166 if you feel happy about all history youre either a psychopath or you dont know history. christopher columbus owning slaves just makes you feel all warm and fuzzy.
Jackson Payne Yes you are correct . But unfortunately the past is not really taught in schools much anymore . And most of the time it is revisionist teachings anyway . So with that said it is easy to repeat the past .
@Cryonic Family PragerU is rated as extremely bias/propaganda and untrustworthy. They are funded by rich American billionaires that try to pull the country right by intentionally manipulative methods.
I wonder if it must inevitably be repeated in some form or another considering human nature. I think the problem needs to be addressed at a genetic level. It might be a mistake to assume that if there are comparably intelligent or cognitively developed beings on other planets that they must share our same capacity for violence, aggression, cruelty and empathic detachment. For all I know, something about our evolutionarily novel intelligence combined with certain pre-rational instincts for savage or thoughtless behavior (I’ve always thought we had more in common psychologically with chimpanzees than bonobos) might be relatively unique among ('human like') intelligent beings and make us especially dangerous to them. I’m sure all beings would be capable of in the moment aggression since they must have a fight or flight response and a capacity for anger but there’s something about human ugliness that still seems ‘off’ to me even though it’s the norm for us, something that might be incredibly bizarre from the alien point of view of someone whose intelligence doesn’t naturally serve their more destructive impulses, short sightedness or the lack of serious, stable ethical consideration for other people which primarily guides us (with that last point and the empathic detachment I mentioned earlier - we can contemplate the morality of our choices and explicitly understand that other people can suffer but still either consciously disregard their pain or deliberately inflict it for it's own sake). It’s possible that those beings would find an animal who was intelligent enough to put himself on the moon or communicate with people around the world but can’t grasp something as simple as the golden rule, universalism or the most basic ethical consistency and ‘self-awareness’ to be completely bewildering.
Unfortunately we keep trying to use slavery as a moral benchmark for people in the 1500s 1400s, when slavery worldwide was accepted as ok. Even the Native Americans had slaves, and would take women and children (those that weren’t massacred) from the tribes they’d conquer.
@JWil42 I would append: Middle Age: Columbus was a great and hearty explorer who made history. Late Adulthood: Columbus was a hero. Wisdom tends to travel full circle throughout a person's life, even when the world is trying to usurp it's importance.
Jordan Cambridge There’s no historical records of Columbus committing genocide. I understand this is often regurgitated as fact. However there’s no evidence that suggests he attempted to ethnically cleanse the natives.
Dear Mr. Michael Knowels, I recognize that you are trying to educate the public about Christopher Columbus, however, there are a few statements I want to point out. For instance, I want to analyze your statement about the Carib people when you said, ”[T]the islands were also inhabited by the Caribs, a tribe of cannibals for whom, according to Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Samuel Eliot Morison, babies were a delicacy-or, in Morison’s words, “a...toothsome morsel.” I researched your statement and found that the evidence of cannibalism conducted by the Caribs as described in the accounts of Columbus to be INSUFFICIENT. For instance, according to Popular Mechanics.com, ”Keegan also clarifies that while the accounts of cannibalism could be true, there is insufficient evidence to definitively confirm Columbus’ claims.” (Hernandez) Additionally, there is very little evidence to the claim that the Caribs migrated to the Bahamas by the time Colombus arrived. For example, according to Live Science.com ”The group of people from northwest Amazon region are known to have colonized several Caribbean islands beginning around the year A.D. 800, but archaeological evidence suggests they never made it as far north as the Bahamas, where Columbus claims to have encountered them.” (Specktor) I also want take a look at your other statement when you said, ”As for the charge of genocide, there was no genocide. There were atrocities-most occurring after Columbus was dead and gone.” (Knowles) If your statement was the case how come Colombus ordered a crackdown to a rebellion by the Arawak people that was so brutal he was arrested by the Spanish Crown where according to the Associated Press, ”As indigenous populations revolted against brutal Spanish treatment, Columbus ordered a ruthless crackdown that included having dismembered bodies being paraded in public. Eventually, Columbus was arrested on mismanagement and brutality charges and died a broken man.” (Contreras) Another statement that I want to examine is your statement about comparing modern standards to the standards in the 15th and 16th centuries. When you said, ”It’s unfair to focus only on Columbus’s sins. It’s also unfair to judge someone who lived 500 years ago by today’s standards.” (Knowles) Your statement would be true if you discount Colombus’s treatment of fellow colonists. For instance, according to Thoughtco.com, ”As governor of Santo Domingo on Hispaniola, he was a despot who kept all profits for himself and his brothers and was loathed by the colonists whose lives he controlled.” (Minster) Thank you for reading my message I hope that you are having a nice day or evening. Sincerely, Connor Compton Sources used for research. Contreras, Russell. “AP Explains: Columbus, once immigrant hero, now heel to some.” apnea’s.com, The Associated Press, 11th of October, 2019, apnews.com/article/20a2a775f59340a29391cb4b446f940a. Hernandez, Daisy. “Was Columbus Right About Cannibals in the New World?” Popular Mechanics.com, Hearst Magazine Media Inc, 15th of January 2020, www.popularmechanics.com/science/archaeology/a30518817/columbus-cannibals/. Specktor, Brandon. “Columbus' Claims of Cannibal Raids May Have Been True After All” Live Science.com, Future US Inc, 13th of January 2020, www.livescience.com/are-columbus-carib-cannibal-claims-true.html. Minster, Christopher. "The Truth About Christopher Columbus." ThoughtCo, Aug. 28, 2020, thoughtco.com/the-truth-about-christopher-columbus-2136697. Bias check of sources used for research. Van Zandt, Dave. “Live Science.” Media Bias Fact Check, Media Bias Fact Check, LLC, 26th of August, 2016, mediabiasfactcheck.com/live-science/. Van Zandt, Dave. “Thoughtco.” Media Bias Fact Check, Media Bias Fact Check, LLC, 21st of February, 2018, mediabiasfactcheck.com/thoughtco/. Van Zandt, Dave. “Popular Mechanics.” Media Bias Fact Check, Media Bias Fact Check, LLC, 24th of August, 2016, mediabiasfactcheck.com/popular-mechanics/. Huitsing, McKenzie. “The Associated Press” Media Bias Fact Check, Media Bias Fact Check, LLC, 6th of July 2017, mediabiasfactcheck.com/associated-press/. The source found with Right-Wing bias and low factual reporting. Van Zandt, Dave. “PragerU.” Media Bias/Fact Check, Media Bias Fact Check, March, 21st 2019, mediabiasfactcheck.com/prageru/. Source found with Right-Wing bias and mixed factual reporting. Van Zandt, Dave. “Daily Wire.” Media Bias Fact Check, Media Bias Fact Check, LLC, 2nd of September, 2016, mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-daily-wire/. For those who wonder who fact checks the fact-checkers. Codes and Principles, IFCN code of principles.poynter.org, IFCN, www.ifcncodeofprinciples.poynter.org.
Columbus and his contemporaries wrote about their experiences-unless one assumes they’re lying-which can’t be proved because they were there, we weren’t, were going to have to take what Columbus said at face value.
@@Concetta20 revisionist history is currently underway where many new things are bring uncovered, even from the colonizers themselves. Plus, you must recall that Columbus' "first hand history" could be a result of ethnocentrism. So, more things are already known, just that they're not popular, so people still do tend to take what they're given at face value.
philomath-matic4437 You said, "A colonizer is a hero to the ppl that he help to empower and a villain to those that were subjected to his conquest" True dat! 💥
@reckloose4222 You said, "except he was admonished and arrested even in his own time." Good point. Yes, throughout history there have been a minority of people who have stood for principles. Sometimes they were listened to, most times not. That Columbus was held accountable in his time doesn't negate that Columbus, then like now, probably had his fans. Despite Lance Armstrong's lying and cheating, check around and see how many still fervently support him. Also, imprisoned gangsters and murderers like Gotti and others, are adored by their beneficiaries (including their children). So, there's that.
@@noicemate9111 actually he had considerable wealth at the time of his death and was surrounded by his family and fellow Franciscans. He’d become a member of the order of st Francis after his voyages
The problem here is that the video insists that it is wrong to judge someone who lived 500 years ago by today's standards, when Columbus was awful even by the standards of the time. His own Spanish patrons put him in jail for his atrocities against the natives. His own contemporary, the priest Bartolome de las Casas condemned Spanish treatment of the enslaved natives, and even gave up his own slaves, something that Columbus didn't do. It's also hilariously stupid to say that Columbus "was emphatic that his crew treat them with kindness and respect" while also admitting that he enslaved them. Was it "kind and respectful slavery?" Also, it doesn't make any sense to condemn the Caribs for their cannibalism while absolving Columbus of his sins by saying that he ought not to be judged by contemporary standards. Condemning the Caribs for cannibalism is also judging them by contemporary standards! One cannot have it both ways, even though this video tries to do so multiple times. You can't celebrate Columbus for bringing "Western civilization to the Western hemisphere" while simultaneously insisting that he was practicing slavery, as every civilization in history has done - what then did Columbus bring that you are celebrating but more of the same? Columbus had no role in bringing any of the positive aspects of Western civilization. It's also hypocritical to credit him for the great Western Civilization that was established after his death, but absolve him of blame for the subsequent abuses carried out by the Spanish government precisely because they happened after his death. Either he was responsible for everything that happened after his death, good and bad, or he was responsible for none of it. Additionally, saying that he did not invent slavery and therefore should not be condemned for practicing it is particularly asinine. Imagine if we tried that with Stalin, Hitler or Mao - "Well, they didn't invent gulags or concentration camps, or re-education camps!" Dismissing criticism against him "as dubious and self-serving" is particularly absurd given that the video then cites Columbus' own defense of his actions - which is by definition self-serving, especially since it offers no actual explanation for what he did, only a petulant insistence that his "bravery" somehow absolves him of all sins. How do we know Columbus himself wasn't "dubious and self-serving?" Condemning him and his holiday isn't indicative of a broken moral compass. It is those who defend him on illogical and dubious grounds who need to explain themselves. Western Civilization was celebrated long before Columbus and will continue to be long after his holiday is discarded. Indeed, the condemnation of Columbus is based on Western values - condemnation of slavery, colonialism, and oppression is a distinctly Western value system.
@@terencemitchell8062 If you agree with the video or not that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. But to state something that is in no way egregious or inappropriate by a reasonable persons standard should be removed is the suppression of free speech. Agree or not any free person can say as they please. Just my thoughts.
The natives raped, enslaved and massacred their own people for thousands of years. Christopher Columbus shows up, gives them a taste of their own medicine, and now he is considered the evil one? Give me a break.
“They willingly traded everything they owned. . . They do not bear arms, and do not know them, for I showed them a sword, they took it by the edge and cut themselves out of ignorance. They would make fine servants…with fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want.” -Christopher Columbus from his diary on meeting the Arawak people
Yawn. Nobody cares. Columbus Day wasn't created for that purpose. Nobody celebrates that crap, nor does anybody but a mindless leftist doing his master's bidding even care.
BS. Columbus did nothing of the sort. Columbus said of the Lucayans: “So tractable, so peaceable are these people that I swear to your Majesties there is not in the world a better nation. They love their neighbors as themselves, and their discourse is ever sweet and gentle and accompanied with a smile; and though it is true that they are naked, yet their manners are decorous and praiseworthy.” You believe and spread a lie.
Thank you Michael, but it sure would of been nice for you to actually counter the various issues people bring up that show/prove Columbus did commit atrocities, did allow his men to rape and kill with impunity. The book I read that opened my eyes to this particular issue with Columbus was "Lies My Teacher Told Me" by James W Loewen. Was his research/citations of others incorrect or are yours?
I always had school off for Columbus Day, course I did graduate HS in Y2K. Now they give the kids the whole week off and call it October Break, the first semester version of Spring Break.
In Texas (in the school district I work for) we have had Columbus day off a really long time, we still do. Some teachers still have to go in. Some staff only get Monday off while the department I work for gets both Monday and Tuesday off.
"He sold natives into slavery, but he didn't invent slavery" Yeah I didn't invent murder but hopefully they'll still praise me in the history books even though I just murdered twelve children.
@@saladossatur2053 because it determines if we should celebrate people from centuries ago today. we should only celebrate good people with historical significance and remember every person with historical significance. ever heard of ponce de león?
@@saladossatur2053 Even back then enslaving the natives was still pretty Bad. Columbus even threatened to cut off the tongues of anyone who told Spain of what he did in the America’s. It was wrong and he knew it
PragerU: Don't judge historical figures by today's moral standards. They were doing what was was right in their time Also PragerU: Morality is objective because it was given to us by a being who transcends time Which is it guys? Pick one
@@imperators_8700 he didn’t even discover it, people already lived there and the Vikings came to the americas first. Columbus is just an idiot who couldn’t read a map
It’s funny to me that they say u can’t judge Columbus by today’s standards. Then also say the island also had cannibals who ate babies. You judging them in today’s standards. Maybe cannibalism was socially acceptable you can’t know it was 500 years ago. Holes in your logic. Also most US citizens are questioning why we celebrate him when he never landed in the United States. Like let the Bahamas choose to celebrate him.
@J M He was in command. Thats very directly. Anad even if the tribe raided each other...they didn't had a system of harsh punishments and slavery...like the one Columbus brought them. So...even judged by his times standard (literally) he was found guilty of crimes...and ended up in jail. So...if THEY judged him...why shouldn't we? The whole judgement thing can get dangerous. If people remember the early 2000thands as a time of islamic terrorism...than was Osama bin Laden only a "child of his time" and should not be judged by future generations? That doesn't mean that we should not also acknowledge Columbus accomplishments...his confidence made the journey possible...so he does deserve the credit.... and whoever wants to should celebrate him. But the question is,...if it has to be a state mandated holiday. Or if the holiday must be about him. Why not chose Vespucci the guy that America is named after or de la Casa who was advocating some forerunner of human rights...or why not celeberate Isabella who was financed the whole thing...or the heritage of the people who lost their life-style.
@@danilomedalla7122 I never said to not celebrate indigenous day. I don’t think in this country, the United States, we should be celebrating a man who never came here and is attributed to horrible actions on indigenous people. Let’s get rid of Columbus Day and make it indigenous day and start teaching what actually happened to the indigenous people in our history books. We all learned about science experiments done to the Jewish people, and the camps in nazi Germany why can’t we learn about the atrocities our own ancestors did to make the country the way it is??
"They were very well built, with very handsome bodies and very good faces....They do not carry arms or know them....They should be good servants.” - Columbus
Did you read the full quote? “They must be good servants, and intelligent, for I can see that they quickly repeat everything said to them. I believe they would readily become Christians.”
@@perrellcooper4347 And this changes things, how? If he'd said Muslims, how would you feel about his statement? May I remind you that enormous numbers of black slaves were made into your precious Christians as well. Doesn't make the slavery part any better.
@@nathanokeefe7063 You do know there's a diffrence between muslims and christians? Also the fact that Christoffer was a chrsitian is not relevent to you? Back then christianty was perseved as good thing you know... Might as well find new tribes of people and say "they may be good liberals" or whatever....
“While I was in the boat, I captured a very beautiful Carib woman, whom the said Lord Admiral gave to me. When I had taken her to my cabin she was naked-as was their custom. I was filled with a desire to take my pleasure with her and attempted to satisfy my desire. She was unwilling, and so treated me with her nails that I wished I had never begun. But-to cut a long story short-I then took a piece of rope and whipped her soundly, and she let forth such incredible screams that you would not have believed your ears. Eventually we came to such terms, I assure you, that you would have thought that she had been brought up in a school for whores.”
@@fernandososa6507 You're right. I initially thought this was written by Columbus. Columbus is the "Lord Admiral" who gave his friend an indigenous person. This quote IS from Columbus: "A hundred castellanos are as easily obtained for a woman as for a farm, and there are plenty of dealers who go about looking for girls; those from nine to ten are now in demand, and for all ages a good price must be paid." Almost as equally horrifying.
@@edawgrules actually that’s not a quote either. Christopher Columbus‘s diary is not in his own words. It is well know amongst historians Bartolomé de las Casas who translated Columbus‘s diaries paraphrased and exaggerated translations of the journals to fit his own agenda.
This video brings the good, and the not so good, of Columbus to light. It does not glorify any misdeeds. Some will only focus on the negative aspects and ignore the good side of Columbus and vice versa. I just don't agree when people give the revised account of history and paint it in either black or white. I think PragerU, with Michael Knowles did a good job of not revising history.
@@mycroftholmes3725 I wasn't claiming that to be true. I was simply asking. Like I said in the OP about PragerU ("It does not glorify any misdeeds") I myself am not trying to paint the man a Saint.
His surname is derived from my much older Irish one. Thankfully ParagerU isn’t even trying to hide the fact he was a slaver. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_abolition_of_slavery_and_serfdom
This video straight up glorifies him. As if he was some noble explorer who just wanted to explore and totally wasn’t travelling for his own monetary gain.
Everyone talks about capitalism as though it were a fairly recent invention, along with the cotton mill, the steam engine and the internal combustion engine, but the truth is capitalism--and the ills that have been associated with it-- has existed in one form or another since practically the dawn of time.
Fun fact- people could calculate the circumference of the earth with ships, and knew the distance between Spain and Asia. Using the speed of ships, people at the time knew and told Columbus he could literally not take enough food on his ship to make it to Asia. Big-headed Columbus brushed it off and set out on his voyage. If not for landing in the America’s, him and his crew would have starved to death in the middle of the ocean.
And the part about not having maps back in the 1400s was extremely wrong,example of maps dating back to the A.D. 500s still exist today,and the reason the experts claimed it couldn't be done was that, Columbus completely botched his math claiming the earth is tens of thousands of miles smaller than it actually was,if Columbus didn't stumble upon the Americas,He and his crew would have starved to death.
@Lucas Lombardo you didn't get anything that doesnt side with your pathetic emotional bias do you? I guess you are one of the wokes who wish to bring the name "happy indigenous day" well, it ain't gonna happen, they have done anything spectacular. Everyone remembers the native americans as only peaceful loving tribes when in truth they were no different from other peoples, the "civilized" native americans were even worst, living with perpetual sacrifices each days. but no, im sure that might be another made up thing wrote centuries later, isn't right?
@@jackmitchelles2646 K, person who was blind to see that the Fire Nation was a metaphor to constantly throw shade on American imperialism, genocidal acts, and state-demanded nationalism.
Christopher Columbus discovered the New World, where today many entities are named in his honor such as the federal District of Columbia, the nation of Colombia, the province of British Columbia, Columbia University, Columbia Records, Columbia Pictures, and the cities of Columbia, South Carolina, Columbus, Ohio, Columbus, Mississippi, Columbus, Indiana, Columbus, Georgia, and Columbus, Nebraska to name a few, but Amerigo Vespucci was first to set foot upon the soil that would quickly come to bear his name, the Americas consisting of the continents of North America and South America, including the region of Central America and the nation of America.
@Olu That's true. They came from somewhere. Land masses were different long ago. "We’ve known for a long time that the indigenous peoples of the Americas are descended from a group of people who crossed a land connection between Asia and North America sometime during the Last Glacial Maximum (26,500 to 19,000 years before present, or YBP)," www.theguardian.com/science/2018/jan/03/what-the-ancient-dna-discovery-tells-us-about-native-american-ancestry
LOUIS XVII, how is it irrelevant that he in fact never discovered the new world, that whole premise implies that either native Americans are not people, or they don’t matter
@Olu I hope my response isn't taken as a snipe. It's an honest reaction. Context is important. No one of reason claims Columbus discovered the "New World" on behalf of the entire human race. Clearly he discovered it on behalf of the "Old World" and conversely caused the "New World" to "discover" the "Old World." Also, please see the origins of the "indigenous" peoples graciously posted by "@Doris White" shortly after you.
I think the lesson of Columbus is that most historical figures are bad and blindly celebrating them ignores the evil parts of our history and paints over it with a reassuring lie. Also I love how quickly this dude just brushed over the atrocities part.
There's something that you're missing. Had you been alive, 500 years ago, you'd have been no different. You'd like to think that you'd be different but you wouldn't have been. It's the same thing had you been a teenager in Munich in 1936. Do you seriously believe that you'd have been the 15 year old that would speak out against the Fuehrer? That you'd be that special kid that refused to join the Hitler Youth? I doubt it very much. You'd be proudly goosestepping along in Hitler Youth parades along with all your buddies and classmates. I say that because you're human and as such you'd be exactly what your culture of the moment had made you. Right now, the culture demands that you vilify Columbus. 100 years ago, you wouldn't have done that. Don't think that you're better than Columbus because deep down you're not. None of us are.
@@JackHaveman52 Well if you didn't contribute to a genocide you're automatically better than him by eons. Even in his time Christopher was considered a grotesque and horrendous individual. Give it up and stop trying to justify his glorification.
@@davidmays8974 I'm not BETTER than anyone. Neither are you. That's the biggest problem that the human race has had all through our history. "We're BETTER than you" and that belief has given licence to the killing of hundreds of millions of people. The SAME people that considered Columbus a horrendous individual, committed that same atrocities that he did, some of them even worse. This was about politics and envy and most of today's criticism is about expounding on their moral superiority. If this was a "Columbus" problem, it would have ended with his death, only 14 years after he landed in the Americas. In fact, it became WORSE, after he died. Columbus is a figurehead, something solid to latch onto when people want to prove how virtuos they are.
@@JackHaveman52 It's not wrong to say that anyone who hasn't committed genocide is automatically better than Christopher Columbus. And it isn't wrong to say that I am, either, I'm just an ordinary citizen living life.
@@davidmays8974 And if you'd sailed with Columbus, you'd have been complicit with Columbus. People LOVE to think that they're SO good but it's damned easy when you don't live in a time or situation where these things were happening. My parents grew up in Nazi occupied Netherlands. Do you know who the Nazi soldiers were? They were ordinary people, just like you and me. One time farmers, shop keepers, factory workers, living ordinary lives and they found themselves doing some of the most atrocious acts in our recent history. These same ordinary Germans went into my mother's home when she was 11 years old and took ALL their food. They almost starved to death. Had you or I been one of those soldiers, we'd have done the same. We're just not in that situation. The Spanish had no problem with slavery. No one did at the time. It was a part of life all over the planet. The Aztecs were taking slaves and them brutally murdering them in religious ceremonies and doing it by the hundreds. Funny how NO one calls that brutal. Columbus wrote that the native Tainos had told him about the fierce and warlike Caribs, who used to raid the Tainos for cannibalistic rituals and capture and enslave their women. Once again, I don't hear you complaining about THEIR brutality. No one is perfect and that includes you. If you think that you wouldn't have been goose stepping in the Nazi ranks had you been born in Germany in 1925, you're only kidding yourself. Any honest person has to admit that they'd have done the same. It's the dishonest ones who puff out their chest and point fingers at everyone else thinking that they're better than others. Once you believe that, and it appears that you do, you'll find that you'd be quite ready and willing to do horrific things to those who you believe are worse than what you are. It's the way of humanity all through history. You haven't learned a thing except to believe that you're superior to "those people" over there.
We can judge his character by looking at how Columbus treated his fellow Europeans. His crewmates considered him to be a cruel tyrant as the punishments inflicted upon them by Columbus were very extreme even for the time. He was also instructed by Ferdinand and Isabella (the two leaders of Spain at the time) to treat the natives well and with care, something he blatantly ignored. He didn't intend to cause a genocide, but he didn't care at all and was interested only in exploiting the natives.
Everything we see and do in modern times throughout the America's was started by Christopher Columbus's journey to the new world. He was a great man! Thanks Chris!
@jshowa o Yeah I know that. But the vikings didn't want anyone to find out about their new source of bog ores plus other minerals, also some natural resources. All secret treasures to the vikings. Columbus brought Europe to the America's. In turn modernizing the new world. That's what Columbus did.....
@Dog Lover Well 500 years ago he did what everybody else did. So nobody was very nice. You can't put their way of living on our modern standards of living. 500 years ago pretty much every country had some sort of slavery. Killing was common in many places. Non-stop wars, horrible health conditions. Disease and death all over. In Europe bathing was considered unhealthy by most people. In my opinion life in Europe was miserable. Here's one. Columbus landed in the Caribbean in 1492. We didn't start trying to create a country until 1776. That's 284 year's. That's longer than we've been a country. People did improve during those years. Many things changed.
@@DavidSwemost of the deaths attributed to him were from disease, at a time when germ theory wasn’t even formalized yet. The rest were the result of helping protect the Taino tribe against the Carib tribe, the latter of which enslaved and ATE the former. I’m not saying he was a saint, but he wasn’t the demon depicted in recent years either.
So it is wrong to judge Columbus's enslavement and exploitation from our modern standards but not the Caribs and their canabalism? Do your parameters of judgment actually extend to modern vs. historical standards, or simply what race a culture happens to be?
@@eo9337 This acknowledges that Columbus was imperfect (as were all the other players at the time). Columbus paved the way for Native Americans to make their contributions and help propel Western world forward. What else can one expect?
@jshowa o What do you think got Columbus to overlook his own fears and push onward? Get a little perspective. 'Sheer force of will' turned out okay in this instance. A round earth was still theory in those days.
@jshowa o You are obnoxious. Yes, I know the Queen of Spain backed him. He managed to get his crew to keep going is the point you missed (that and that they made it. Lol)
@Ted Clutter how were they squatting on our land lmao? U realize there were post Stone Age civilisations in the americas after Colombus right? The Aztecs, Mayas, and Incas even had empires not to mention the extensive use of agriculture. For the record, humans, wherever they went wiped out megafauna. From Europe to Australia and the americas humans overhunted. The americas were first colonisés by native Americans and their land was stolen and their peoples forced through genocide by europeans.
@Ted Clutter They didn’t have the wheel because they didn’t bloody need it or could use it. What were they going to have pull the wagons? Cows? Horses?They didn’t have cows or horses. They didn’t have much in the way of any useful animals besides alpacas. And that was in South America. The dies of fate was not on their side when rolled.
"To arrive at a just estimate of a renowned man’s character one must judge it by the standards of his time, not ours. Judged by the standards of one century, the noblest characters of an earlier one lose much of their luster; judged by the standards of to-day, there is probably no illustrious man of four or five centuries ago whose character could meet the test at all points. "-Mark Twain, Personal Recollections of Joan of Arc
Columbus was judged insane even by his own peers. The crown stripped his governorship of Hispaniola because of it. This is a pretty unhappy way to sound smart in this context.
@Christopher Stanley Except he never did that. That is "not his writings" you have been lied to. That is based on a journal of a guy who never knew Columbus 60+ years after Columbus' death, and useful idiots parrot it as it fits their narrative.
@jshowa o You completely avoided my point to act like a moron. He was stripped of his power *because* he was arresting Spainards for abuses against the natives. Spain didn't give a shit about the natives, the fact that people think they would punish him for that is idiocy. He was released from prison and reinstated in terms of his enterprises. That does not mean he went back to being governor.
Congrats Stop caring so much about politics, have your values and keep them, get a life, get drunk with your friends and get hobbies you enjoy, scouring the internet for political information is detrimental to your health.
Although I mostly enjoy this channel, I greatly disagree with the video. Columbus did not discover the Americas, millions of Natives already lived here, and he wasn’t the first European in the Americas. You can’t discover a place where people already live. Secondly, this man did not prove the world was round (I know that wasn’t talked in the video, but many people believe he did). Greeks and Egyptians knew that for thousands of years. Third, he didn’t do much good. His policies were horrible and his actions led to massive pandemics, slavery, rape, and extermination of millions of Natives. Fourth, I wouldn’t say he was the greatest explorer of all time. It’s my personal opinion, but what about Marco Polo, Ferdinand Magellan, or Walter Raleigh? Or even the ancestors of Natives who were the real discoverers of the Americas? Fifth, he never even set foot in the United States. He did set foot in Haiti, the Dominican Republic, and the Bahamas, so why do we celebrate him? Again, this is my opinion.
Columbus did rediscover North America, the Vikings only stayed there for a year, and had no official record of it so by the time Columbus did rediscovered it, it had been forgotten. I've also never heard anything about people claiming that Columbus was the only one who believed the Earth was flat, however I do believe there were people who believed that since there are people that believes it even today. Third, those causes weren't direcyly made by Columbus himself but was just unexpected effects, other unexpected effects were the western political system moving towards democracy. And even if he didn't discover the US or Canada specifically doesn't mean that his discovery wasn't big.
I find the story of his perseverance against the odds irrelevant to the atrocities he committed. Actions that cause (undeserved) harm are crime, actions that cause no harm are ones own business.
Nobody cares. Columbus isn't an important history figure for the horrid crap he did; he's an important history figure because he sparked the colonization of the Americas by Europe. And you know this. You just lick leftist boots and smear who they tell you to smear and think how they tell you to think.
4:02 this video is so bad it almost hurts so im gonna try and break this down starting here. "Columbus sold people into slavery but he didnt invent slavery" that defense doesnt hold up at all. Just because you arent the first one to do something doesn't remove your part in it. Imagine if when on trial for war crimes all the germans said was "we werent the first ones to commit war crimes". Secondly at 4:28 this video states that you cant judge columbus by modern moral standards. This is actually true. But luckily for us we dont have to. Columbus disgusted people back then as well. Columbus was arrested for being so brutal and cruel even to the Spainish back then. He chopped off limbs for stealing corn. He told his men to "bring the natives under the spanish yoke" which meant rape,enslave and kill people untill they submit and give you gold. And finally columbus didnt even discover America. In fact he never technically stepped foot in "america" the closest he got central america in Honduras. So he isnt the first person to step food in America. He isnt the first European to step foot in America. And he only technically even stepped foot in america. 5:02 why? This arrival killed 90% of the people living there,made their lives significantly worse and enslaved them.
Fun fact: After 11 Italians were lynched in New Orleans in 1891 the US government created Columbus Day as a way to celebrate Italian American pride. It holds considerable meaning to the Italian American community. Removing or replacing that day is only pandering to extremists. Also please note Columbus wasn’t any more brutal than the natives. Additionally the majority of the deaths from his voyage were due to disease.
@@njshift Yeah, I know. I was actually surfing Hulu, only last night, and noticed they were holding, 'Vendetta' (1999), a TV movie for HBO, about the all-too unknown lynching.
4:24 "It's unfair to judge someone who lived 500 years ago by today's standards" Even by standards of 500 years ago, Columbus did horrible things to those native people.
Man, exploring the world back then, when everything was so unknown and mysterious, would have been amazing indeed. Getting on a ship and sailing to a new country would have been incredible.
I'm happy PragerU addressed Columbus' life, voyage and his actions perfectly and it was spot on. He wasn't a blameless man (nor is anyone) and he did some bad things to the tribe. The fact about the tribe eating babies was new information to me. And yes we celebrate Columbus for the arrival of western civilisation. God bless you all.
the tribe eating babies is a history made by columbus and his companions theres no factual evidence this actually happened lets not forget the europeans liked to portray others as cannibals while the europeans themsleves were cannibals eating dead ppl up into the 18th century eating organs etc of dead ppl in the beliefit would have health benefits....or the swiss mercenaries who cut out the hearts of the enemies and ate them just to put into perspective how euros portrayed others even if they themselves did similar things
@@ojberrettaberretta5314 You're repeating tired talking points. Anthropology studies have confirmed they were cannibals and the European portrayal was accurate.
@@mack7235 If you go to the description box, you can click on the script transcript. It takes you to the website where all of the sources are listed...
The Caribs were not cannibals. That was a lie invented to justify conquest. You had to make people seem lesser to justify atrocities. I am always amazed as to how foreigners are easy to point fingers instead of finding the truth.
The Spanish (at least those under his authority) resented Columbus almost from the start because he was Genoese rather than Spanish. This resentment of a foreigner being in charge of the Indies hampered his efforts to administer Hispaniola. The Portuguese Magellan would encounter the same difficulty.
The video presents the argument that there was no instance of direct violence against the indigenous peoples during Columbus's expeditions, suggesting instead that only "atrocities" occurred. However, a closer examination of Columbus's policies reveals a much harsher reality. His administration implemented systems of forced labor and outright enslavement, contributing to widespread violence. These actions had catastrophic effects on the Indigenous populations, particularly the Taíno, who faced a dramatic decline to the brink of extinction as a result of these brutal policies. Furthermore, the assertion that "Columbus did Not invent Slavery" holds an element of truth; indeed, systems of slavery had existed for centuries in various cultures worldwide before Columbus's voyages. Nevertheless, Columbus's actions marked a significant turning point in the institutionalization of the enslavement of Indigenous peoples in the Americas. His practices established a framework and set a dangerous precedent that not only legitimized such exploitation but also paved the way for the horrific transatlantic slave trade that would follow, deepening the atrocities committed against countless individuals and cultures.
I kidnapped my neighbor at gunpoint and chained him to my stove, and now he cooks and does my dishes for me. But it’s ok, since I didn’t invent slavery.
@@banzaihenozu1468 No, we’re human people with humanly feelings just like how you claim your idiotic Christopher Columbus was. If you think being too sensitive over a fiend who committed mass genocide, something is seriously wrong with you.
Isabel of castilla made a law that made it illegal to enslave any castillian citizen, Columbus not only claimed the new land in the name of castilla, but also enslaved the inhabitants and brutally mistreated them, so when he went back home almost everyone judged him and was considered a villan andan atrocious person until... in 1870's or so, like 300 years ago the spanish empire finally began crumbling withmany crisis in Cuba, it was then when he was first considered a hero and most of his monument where made (at least in Spain) it was done to emphasize the idea of the spanish ownership of south America. So we are not judging him by today's standards, but judging the 1800's colonialist standards that were attached to his persona
“I was filled with a desire to take my pleasure with her and attempted to satisfy my desire. She was unwilling, and so treated me with her nails that I wished I had never begun. I then took a piece of rope and whipped her soundly, and she let forth such incredible screams that you would not have believed your ears. Eventually we came to such terms, I assure you, that you would have thought she had been brought up in a school for whores.” (Referring to a child by the way) You guys are celebrating a 15th century Jeffrey Epstein
@J M “While I was in the boat, I captured a very beautiful Carib woman, whom the said Lord Admiral gave to me. “ very clearly referring to Christopher Columbus as it references his title directly and refers to the period he was in charge so there’s no ambiguity there
“I was filled with a desire to take my pleasure with her and attempted to satisfy my desire. She was unwilling, and so treated me with her nails that I wished I had never begun. I then took a piece of rope and whipped her soundly, and she let forth such incredible screams that you would not have believed your ears. Eventually we came to such terms, I assure you, that you would have thought she had been brought up in a school for whores.” (Referring to a child by the way) You guys are celebrating a 15th century Jeffrey Epstein
@Gustavo Octavio deCampos I think only weak men need heroes who they deify and worship with rose tinted glasses. Be your own man and stop looking for a "history daddy" to look up to. Look at history objectively and take it all in, the good and the bad. Be your own man.
@Gustavo Octavio deCampos The Roman Empire is fascinating and their technological and cultural achievements are many and great. No problem celebrating a proud history, especially if you can recognize the atrocities and not try to create a Walt Disney version of them. History is messy, history is full of genocide, rape, ect. but that's part of history! Let's not ignore the bad for the sake of the good and consider everything. History is doomed to repeat itself if we don't learn from our past mistakes.
4:29 even by the standards of the day some of his followers called him a psychopath, he would do inhumane experiments like throwing an axe at a line of native americans and counting how many he could decapitate to "see how tough they are". He even had his own settlers beaten to death for exchanging gold for food during times of starvation, yeah his atrocities were not limited to the native people, he would chop off tongues for disrespect
You are not "nuts". You are not totally wrong. It's just that in order to "discover" something you have to spread the word to enough people that it makes a difference. Erickson failed to do that. His journey amounted to NOTHING. The first man to fall off a cliff did NOT "discover gravity".
@Lucas Lombardo But not well known enough to put anything on world maps. Face it. The world was different AFTER his voyage. The same can't be said about the Vikings (or the Greeks who, some are saying, discovered America more than 2000 years ago).
Erickson was a great man, but his empire of his people did not colonize the Americas. Though there were some settlements. Colombus had a civilization that conquered the Americas due to having modern weaponry which the Vikings lacked. Both men should be celebrated but Colombus is even more deserving of a day, despite me being a Pagan myself.
I wanted to like the video but I think you can judge someone's choices by modern standards if those standards are legitimate. If they are they apply to everyone from all cultures and times. I can agree that it's unfair to focus on his sins, not that it's a problem for him now.
My guy he was literally on trial in Spain for he crimes against the natives. He didn’t set foot on American soil his entire life. He genocides Hispaniola that’s it. Don’t revere this monster.
He was brought to trial for his crimes against the colonists, not the natives. Spain didn't care all that much about the natives. They did order Columbus to stop enslaving them multiple times to no avail, but they never punished him for these actions
I hope you get a chance to read this: I am an American history teacher at a middle school. I showed this video to my students today, since we were in session. I was able to debunk many myths that my students had learned from social media and changed many minds about Columbus. Just wanted to let you know that there are some conservative teachers still left in the US that teach facts and not feelings. Thanks for the video.
What "myths"? He enslaved and tortured the native population for their gold, to the point that his own Spanish patrons put him in jail. The only "myths" here are being spread by conservatives who want to whitewash Columbus.
Maybe someone should sow your mouth shut so you don’t damage any more youths with your lies. Don’t say you’re a historian when you believe anything without checking credibility. I hope you disappear because you put dirt on the name of historian.
Another perspective don't judge the Incas by today's standards even though the sacrificed and enslaved people you can't talk about that because it isn't going to be politically correct but definitely judge people like Columbus only. There are many people, civilizations, leaders, and etc you can certainly judge. But as far as "whitewashing" unless you are willing to actually look at all of these parts of history honestly and be truthful the shouting from soapboxes falls on deaf ears. You can find plenty done wrong in multiple white and nonwhite civilizations throughout history, yet it's quite interesting that now it's focused on one and if you mention the others shame.
well we should look down on anyone who challenges columbus, he is a hero of our civilization and to dislike what he did is to forget such things are necessary to build a civilization
@007kingifrit what inhuman things to say , it's like saying to indigenous people and slave have to die fo you to prosper , he was evil like h itl er was even by back then standart , it like celebrating hitler because if the advancing of medecine using human expermient
He cut off the hands of natives who couldn’t get him gold. Half of the arawak of Haiti commited suicide and killed their kids… all because Columbus wanted gold and wow his king. All greed - no exploration
@@alexalexalex797 it’s documented and factual but that’s not to say that the Arawak were not violent imperial colonizers themselves. Just stating facts my dumb little hillbilly
@@Entropy106 dumb hillbilly?😂 Ok neomilennial gender genie. The fact is, in that era, everything that happened was very standard. And done by everyone. The natives themselves would’ve done it if they could. Such was the world. (Shocking for you, i know.) Colombus was rather very lenient COMPARATIVELY. So mirroring colombus to genghis khan or some blood thirsty maniac might be a stretch🤷♂️
Just think, hundreds of millions of Europeans were slaves, or serfs, for hundreds if not a thousand years. Some were.treated well, others slaughtered, raped or pillaged. Some masters/lords.were.good some were bad, but as always slavery is bad for both society and the individual.
Were they separated from their families, their beliefs, their religions, seen as non humans, treated as cattle, lost all human rights, etc? Not quite. Slavery is bad in general when it is forced labor, but there are many different levels
*In fourteen hundred ninety-two* *Columbus sailed the ocean blue.* *He had three ships and left from Spain;* *He sailed through sunshine, wind and rain...* *That poem is anathema nowadays in public schools.*
The real argument concerning the plan was about how big the world is and whether they would all die before they got to the east. It turned out his opponents were right that the world was about the size that had been accepted for over 1,500 years. Accidentally running into the Bahamas saved Columbus and his crew, and made known to Europe an entirely unknown land.
@@FrankieFishess Pretty much every single conservative take on history? Like 'american exceptionalism' became a thing because conservative would only focus on the good part of america and never admits the bad part of america.
Howard Zinn literally rewrote Columbus', and America's, history, and is a large reason both are vilified in pop media today. Zinn was not a historian, he was self a proclaimed anti american communist protagonist and spin doctor.
Columbus embarked on a voyage without GPS, without radar, without gas-fueled engines, without knowing whether he’d survive. He accomplished so much on this journey. And he lived the times ... 1492 was a long time ago. Slavery was common - even the tribes native to North/South America took slaves. His accomplishment was the first time in thousands of years that the continents became interconnected. His success setup the free world for poor people to come from all over the globe. Auto - Plane - Electricity - Phone - Computer - Stock Market - and more were all invented in the Americas. Without his discovery we wouldn’t be globally connected or nearly as advanced as we are today.
Danny Agunbia - Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Edison are American. Edison made a glass bulb light up and it’s the same design we use today. Tesla invented better current (AC/DC) but derived his work from Edison. The Dutch East India Company operated as a stock would today - they invested in ships going to the Americas to gain goods. Americans took the idea to the next level with investments into companies, not just commodities.
nuclear socialist - explain how Columbus committed genocide? You guys and the K-12 public education. Move to Africa and you’ll see genocide up close and personal and it’s happening right now. Your arrogance is so putrid it stinks the air like the days of 1492 when people crapped in the streets of Spain. You’d rather worry about something 500 years ago versus grow hair on your balls and do something about the present. But don’t worry cuz you’re so smart you have a cool name like nuclear socialist. Move out of your mom’s basement into a country like Venezuela and the tell me about how cool your socialist idea is ... oh wait it’s not because people try to escape all the time from that country to get to the USA. Barbarians discovered America? The Vikings may have found upper Canada / Nova Scotia but it’s a contested theory. Oh by the way ... since Vikings rape, pillaged and plundered England for almost a thousand years we should banish any mention of their origin right? There go your Scandinavian socialist countries too. Have a great time looking up the society in the history books without any fault or wrongdoing.
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@Mummichog lol the left is full of these uninformed and self-harming "social justice" upholders and "socialists" the right is just a bunch of batshit crazy and stubborn conspiracy-theory-believing racist nutjobs
I'm only 15 seconds into the video and have to correct these people. Colombus wasn't the first european to set foot on the American continent, the vikings were. He also didn't discover it because first the continent had always been there and second cause the indigenous people were there before anyone else.
@@Aaron-dq3xz if native Americans aren't Americans aren't Americans because they came from Asia thousands years ago. How the F can today Americans be considered Americans
@@Aaron-dq3xz i don't know if you use the word native and indigenous differently (do you mean by natives the people who were there before Colombus or the first people who landed in America?) If some people lived continuously in a land for thousands of years especially of they were the first people who lived there it becomes their land and people call the natives or indigenous people. If you want to say that there aren't native Americans then there's no natives at all anywhere in the world.
Fun fact, the currency of El Salvador and Costa Rica is "The Colón or Colónes" to honor Cristóbal Colón (Columbus), and the capital of El Salvador is "San Salvador". My point is, do not believe anybody who tells you that Latinos "hate" Christopher Columbus, when in fact it is quite the opposite! Latinos not only treasure but also celebrate our rich history. Happy Columbus day in advance everybody! :) Just in case, El Salvador uses both the Colón and the U.S Dollar as the national currency.
latinos are not a monolith many do hate him in argentina we also changed the name because of the horrific things he has done so we do not celebrate him but all cultures in the continent,i look at columbus the same way i look at muhammad, a lunatic who liked little girls so i do not see any reason to celebrate someone like this
Columbus has not been celebrated for centuries. He was incorporated into the US’s culture to help xenophobs accept Italian immigrants. He thought the Earth was shaped like a pear. He never realized the Americas and Asia were separate places. The accusations of genocide come mostly from written accounts of how he treated the natives. Including his own accounts, where he says they kind nature made them easy to be enslaved. He was not a hero. He was a hack of a navigator who lucked when some royals gave him the bare minimum to try and find a way to India, around the Ottomans. Why is this guys a hill worth dying on?
its a historic fact that after receiving hospitality from the taino people Columbus returned to the Bahamas himself with 17 ships and 1200 men and enslaved the taino and tried steal their hidden gold(which they had none of)also till 1828 Columbus was known as a murderous failure at 1828 he was made a hero by a book Washington Erwin wrote on him by that time most people had no idea who Columbus was (fun fact Columbus thought that the earth was pear shaped and had a nipple on top he wrote this himself)
You left quite a bit out. It is documented that the Taino‘s and Columbus developed quite an amicable relationship during his first stay. Some Taino’s willingly ventured back to Spain with Columbus. Columbus converted those Tainos and even tried adopting them. Upon leaving Columbus instructed his settlers to make sure that the Tainos on Hispaniola be protected during his frequent absences. After Columbus returned he learned many of the colonizers were massacred and the remaining settlers rampaged the villages, robbing, raping, and enslaving. Disciplinary actions towards the settlers by Columbus and his brother were met with open revolt. It got so bad that the Spanish crown sent an investigator, who took over as governor, arrested Columbus, and sent him back to Spain in chains. The new governor Nicolás de Ovando was far worse. De Ovando was the man who is actually credited with formally establishing the encomienda system along with most of its atrocities.
@@njshiftOh Columbus was not better than the Spanish Governor who replaced him. Columbus never even as much as raised a finger when the Indigenous Taino were being slaughtered.
Why should we celebrate a terrible explorer that mistook the earth to be far smaller than it actually was, stumbled on America on accident never set foot on the modern day USA ,was not even the first eurooean let alone first human to set foot on America, and stumbled on America on accident?
@@Good100 so does every explorer,should we celebrate every one of them? Columbus was a dumb man that thought the earth was a lot smaller than it actually was, and did not set a foot on The modern day USA was not even the first European let alone human to set foot on America,he was not special.in anyway at all
*Can one be Latino today without Columbus?* Latin is from Europe. Catholicism is from Europe. and the Spanish language - from Europe. shouldn't Latinos be celebrating Columbus day as well? you simply can't be Latino without him.
It also does not help Columbus that none of his original journals survived to be translated. Instead, transcripts that are more than often taken out of context serve to spite the man. Columbus wasn't a saint, but he does not bear the weight of all history's wrongs. Also, if you favor Indigenous People's Day, actually celebrate indigenous people; don't just change the name and effectively make it Anti-Columbus Day.
That doesn't count in the same way because it was abandoned and forgotten about before anyone really knew about it. Columbus was the first to truly introduce the two worlds to each other.
The Portuguese experts were correct; barring the existence of the Americas, traveling around the world was impossible at the time. Columbus' math was off, meaning he thought the circumference of the earth was smaller than it is. He and his crew would have starved to death if they hadn't found land when they did.
My wife, born a Mexican Citizen now a US Citizen, loves Columbus and what he did for the world. In Mexico, Columbus is still celebrated and taught as the world's greatest explorer and a great man.
Fun fact: the vikings were actually the first to set foot on north america but columbus was the first to effectivly put it on the map
Even more fun fact: the vikings weren't the first to set foot on north America. That honor goes to the various Asians who who crossed the bering strait when it was dry land 10's of thousands of years ago.
Have you heard of the great channel Oversimplified?
@@thatonememe1835 yes
Fun fact: aliens were actually the first to visit North America
justanotherlikeyou actually they’ve found accent European artifacts on the east coast which they continue to hide. Both Asians and Europeans were in America at the same time. The Europeans lost though.
“It’s unfair to judge someone who lived 500 years ago by today’s standards.” Not sure about Mr Knowles but I have heard Dennis Prager talk at length about the existence of an Objective Morality.
objective morality tells us what IS right and wrong, not how we should judge others who don't live up to that right and wrong
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Okay but if he’s wrong why should he be praised and glorified
“I was filled with a desire to take my pleasure with her and attempted to satisfy my desire. She was unwilling, and so treated me with her nails that I wished I had never begun. I then took a piece of rope and whipped her soundly, and she let forth such incredible screams that you would not have believed your ears. Eventually we came to such terms, I assure you, that you would have thought she had been brought up in a school for whores.” (Referring to a child by the way) You guys are celebrating a 15th century Jeffrey Epstein
@@kmccarthy26 I agree
@@kmccarthy26 this was one of his men wasn’t it? Not him
At 3:58
That rhetoric is comical.
Imagine Nuremburg, 1946.
Prosecution: "What did you do to 10,000,000 political opponents, Gypsies, Jews, and POWs?"
Defense: "We didn't invent concentration camps."
Oppenheimer: We didn’t invent bombs!
I mean, you cannot judge nazis using today's anti-nazi civilization standards... amirite? /s
That was their actual defense though lol
@@NessJr the team of the manhattan project did invent thye bombs, the nazis did not invent concentration camps nor racial systematic extermination.
@@NessJr the team of the manhattan project did invent thye bombs, the nazis did not invent concentration camps nor racial systematic extermination.
The point of not judging Columbus by contemporary moral standards is mute given that he was largely admonished by even European print outlets of his time
Not really.
@@berserk9085 Yes really. He was arrested and deported back to Spain
@@thenonartist4366 Not Really. The Hidalgos weres jealous of him because he wasnt spanish and didnt let them do what they want. He even hanged some of them for mistreating Natives. Thats why they wanted get rid of gim. But Queen Isabella freed him you racist liar.
Even a former associate turned priest was ashamed of what happened
@@earthnormal7024 Dont lie Racist.
studying history will sometimes make you feel uncomfortable. studying history will sometimes make you feel deeply upset. studying history will sometimes make you feel extremely angry. if studying history always you fell proud and happy, you probably not studying history.
Ah so now I am a dictator cuz I feel happy of history? Wtf is this logic
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if you feel happy about all history youre either a psychopath or you dont know history.
christopher columbus owning slaves just makes you feel all warm and fuzzy.
@Space the guy you are replying to is unironically retarded idk why u wasted your time replying
Amen, Albert.
@@JiaPia3 lmfao
People forget human history is ugly. But we can't forget the past so we don't repeat it in the future.
I agree, too bad PragerU doesn't
Anti-Revisionist DDLC facts
Jackson Payne Yes you are correct . But unfortunately the past is not really taught in schools much anymore . And most of the time it is revisionist teachings anyway . So with that said it is easy to repeat the past .
@Cryonic Family PragerU is rated as extremely bias/propaganda and untrustworthy. They are funded by rich American billionaires that try to pull the country right by intentionally manipulative methods.
I wonder if it must inevitably be repeated in some form or another considering human nature. I think the problem needs to be addressed at a genetic level. It might be a mistake to assume that if there are comparably intelligent or cognitively developed beings on other planets that they must share our same capacity for violence, aggression, cruelty and empathic detachment. For all I know, something about our evolutionarily novel intelligence combined with certain pre-rational instincts for savage or thoughtless behavior (I’ve always thought we had more in common psychologically with chimpanzees than bonobos) might be relatively unique among ('human like') intelligent beings and make us especially dangerous to them. I’m sure all beings would be capable of in the moment aggression since they must have a fight or flight response and a capacity for anger but there’s something about human ugliness that still seems ‘off’ to me even though it’s the norm for us, something that might be incredibly bizarre from the alien point of view of someone whose intelligence doesn’t naturally serve their more destructive impulses, short sightedness or the lack of serious, stable ethical consideration for other people which primarily guides us (with that last point and the empathic detachment I mentioned earlier - we can contemplate the morality of our choices and explicitly understand that other people can suffer but still either consciously disregard their pain or deliberately inflict it for it's own sake).
It’s possible that those beings would find an animal who was intelligent enough to put himself on the moon or communicate with people around the world but can’t grasp something as simple as the golden rule, universalism or the most basic ethical consistency and ‘self-awareness’ to be completely bewildering.
Childhood: Columbus was a hero
Adolescence: Columbus was a villain
Adulthood: Columbus was human
JWil42 no he wasn’t
Unfortunately we keep trying to use slavery as a moral benchmark for people in the 1500s 1400s, when slavery worldwide was accepted as ok. Even the Native Americans had slaves, and would take women and children (those that weren’t massacred) from the tribes they’d conquer.
@JWil42 I would append: Middle Age: Columbus was a great and hearty explorer who made history.
Late Adulthood: Columbus was a hero.
Wisdom tends to travel full circle throughout a person's life, even when the world is trying to usurp it's importance.
Genghis Khan was also a human
Jordan Cambridge There’s no historical records of Columbus committing genocide. I understand this is often regurgitated as fact. However there’s no evidence that suggests he attempted to ethnically cleanse the natives.
Dear Mr. Michael Knowels,
I recognize that you are trying to educate the public about Christopher Columbus, however, there are a few statements I want to point out.
For instance, I want to analyze your statement about the Carib people when you said, ”[T]the islands were also inhabited by the Caribs, a tribe of cannibals for whom, according to Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Samuel Eliot Morison, babies were a delicacy-or, in Morison’s words, “a...toothsome morsel.”
I researched your statement and found that the evidence of cannibalism conducted by the Caribs as described in the accounts of Columbus to be INSUFFICIENT. For instance, according to Popular Mechanics.com, ”Keegan also clarifies that while the accounts of cannibalism could be true, there is insufficient evidence to definitively confirm Columbus’ claims.” (Hernandez)
Additionally, there is very little evidence to the claim that the Caribs migrated to the Bahamas by the time Colombus arrived. For example, according to Live Science.com ”The group of people from northwest Amazon region are known to have colonized several Caribbean islands beginning around the year A.D. 800, but archaeological evidence suggests they never made it as far north as the Bahamas, where Columbus claims to have encountered them.” (Specktor)
I also want take a look at your other statement when you said, ”As for the charge of genocide, there was no genocide. There were atrocities-most occurring after Columbus was dead and gone.” (Knowles)
If your statement was the case how come Colombus ordered a crackdown to a rebellion by the Arawak people that was so brutal he was arrested by the Spanish Crown where according to the Associated Press, ”As indigenous populations revolted against brutal Spanish treatment, Columbus ordered a ruthless crackdown that included having dismembered bodies being paraded in public. Eventually, Columbus was arrested on mismanagement and brutality charges and died a broken man.” (Contreras)
Another statement that I want to examine is your statement about comparing modern standards to the standards in the 15th and 16th centuries. When you said, ”It’s unfair to focus only on Columbus’s sins. It’s also unfair to judge someone who lived 500 years ago by today’s standards.” (Knowles)
Your statement would be true if you discount Colombus’s treatment of fellow colonists. For instance, according to Thoughtco.com, ”As governor of Santo Domingo on Hispaniola, he was a despot who kept all profits for himself and his brothers and was loathed by the colonists whose lives he controlled.” (Minster)
Thank you for reading my message I hope that you are having a nice day or evening.
Sincerely,
Connor Compton
Sources used for research.
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Bias check of sources used for research.
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The source found with Right-Wing bias and low factual reporting.
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For those who wonder who fact checks the fact-checkers.
Codes and Principles, IFCN code of principles.poynter.org, IFCN,
www.ifcncodeofprinciples.poynter.org.
Points to you for a thoughtful, civil, comment.
Columbus and his contemporaries wrote about their experiences-unless one assumes they’re lying-which can’t be proved because they were there, we weren’t, were going to have to take what Columbus said at face value.
@@Concetta20 revisionist history is currently underway where many new things are bring uncovered, even from the colonizers themselves. Plus, you must recall that Columbus' "first hand history" could be a result of ethnocentrism.
So, more things are already known, just that they're not popular, so people still do tend to take what they're given at face value.
A colonizer is a hero to the ppl that he help to empower and a villain to those that were subjected to his conquest
philomath-matic4437
You said, "A colonizer is a hero to the ppl that he help to empower and a villain to those that were subjected to his conquest"
True dat! 💥
@reckloose4222
You said, "except he was admonished and arrested even in his own time."
Good point. Yes, throughout history there have been a minority of people who have stood for principles. Sometimes they were listened to, most times not. That Columbus was held accountable in his time doesn't negate that Columbus, then like now, probably had his fans. Despite Lance Armstrong's lying and cheating, check around and see how many still fervently support him. Also, imprisoned gangsters and murderers like Gotti and others, are adored by their beneficiaries (including their children). So, there's that.
@@JhutaNabiColumbus was stripped of everything and died miserable, he wasn’t really a hero
@@noicemate9111 actually he had considerable wealth at the time of his death and was surrounded by his family and fellow Franciscans. He’d become a member of the order of st Francis after his voyages
And he was released becuase it was false accusations. @reckloose4222
The problem here is that the video insists that it is wrong to judge someone who lived 500 years ago by today's standards, when Columbus was awful even by the standards of the time. His own Spanish patrons put him in jail for his atrocities against the natives. His own contemporary, the priest Bartolome de las Casas condemned Spanish treatment of the enslaved natives, and even gave up his own slaves, something that Columbus didn't do. It's also hilariously stupid to say that Columbus "was emphatic that his crew treat them with kindness and respect" while also admitting that he enslaved them. Was it "kind and respectful slavery?" Also, it doesn't make any sense to condemn the Caribs for their cannibalism while absolving Columbus of his sins by saying that he ought not to be judged by contemporary standards. Condemning the Caribs for cannibalism is also judging them by contemporary standards!
One cannot have it both ways, even though this video tries to do so multiple times. You can't celebrate Columbus for bringing "Western civilization to the Western hemisphere" while simultaneously insisting that he was practicing slavery, as every civilization in history has done - what then did Columbus bring that you are celebrating but more of the same? Columbus had no role in bringing any of the positive aspects of Western civilization. It's also hypocritical to credit him for the great Western Civilization that was established after his death, but absolve him of blame for the subsequent abuses carried out by the Spanish government precisely because they happened after his death. Either he was responsible for everything that happened after his death, good and bad, or he was responsible for none of it. Additionally, saying that he did not invent slavery and therefore should not be condemned for practicing it is particularly asinine. Imagine if we tried that with Stalin, Hitler or Mao - "Well, they didn't invent gulags or concentration camps, or re-education camps!"
Dismissing criticism against him "as dubious and self-serving" is particularly absurd given that the video then cites Columbus' own defense of his actions - which is by definition self-serving, especially since it offers no actual explanation for what he did, only a petulant insistence that his "bravery" somehow absolves him of all sins. How do we know Columbus himself wasn't "dubious and self-serving?"
Condemning him and his holiday isn't indicative of a broken moral compass. It is those who defend him on illogical and dubious grounds who need to explain themselves. Western Civilization was celebrated long before Columbus and will continue to be long after his holiday is discarded. Indeed, the condemnation of Columbus is based on Western values - condemnation of slavery, colonialism, and oppression is a distinctly Western value system.
I wish I could give you more than just one thumb up.
Thank you. Your comment needs to be at the very top. Or better yet, this video needs to be removed. It verges on hate speech.
@@terencemitchell8062 If you agree with the video or not that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. But to state something that is in no way egregious or inappropriate by a reasonable persons standard should be removed is the suppression of free speech. Agree or not any free person can say as they please. Just my thoughts.
He’s was a murder and a rapist. You can’t use the excuse of “it was a different time period!” to justify that.
The natives raped, enslaved and massacred their own people for thousands of years. Christopher Columbus shows up, gives them a taste of their own medicine, and now he is considered the evil one? Give me a break.
“They willingly traded everything they owned. . . They do not bear arms, and do not know them, for I showed them a sword, they took it by the edge and cut themselves out of ignorance. They would make fine servants…with fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want.”
-Christopher Columbus from his diary on meeting the Arawak people
Fake Translation you Racist.
B-but, murica. He hero?! He no is are evil. He created slavery did not, that makes what he did completely okay
(The copes people have are wild)
he was a man of his time
"I want a hamburder!" - Columbus, 1492
Conveniently left out Columbus's extermination of the Lucayan people in the Bahamas. Among several other atrocities.
Yawn. Nobody cares. Columbus Day wasn't created for that purpose. Nobody celebrates that crap, nor does anybody but a mindless leftist doing his master's bidding even care.
he was a man of his time
@@ellenman That's moral relativism.
The word for that is genocide, which Mike here says never happened. The atrocities only happened after Chris died, apparently.
BS. Columbus did nothing of the sort. Columbus said of the Lucayans: “So tractable, so peaceable are these people that I swear to your Majesties there is not in the world a better nation. They love their neighbors as themselves, and their discourse is ever sweet and gentle and accompanied with a smile; and though it is true that they are naked, yet their manners are decorous and praiseworthy.”
You believe and spread a lie.
Thank you Michael, but it sure would of been nice for you to actually counter the various issues people bring up that show/prove Columbus did commit atrocities, did allow his men to rape and kill with impunity. The book I read that opened my eyes to this particular issue with Columbus was "Lies My Teacher Told Me" by James W Loewen. Was his research/citations of others incorrect or are yours?
Conservatives doing bad history? Imagine my shock!
Knowles obviously. Prageru is a cesspool of propaganda and misinformation.
The Empanadas are Bad.
better learn spanish to read actual history
"there was no genocide" =
"There is no war in Ba Sing Se"
😂
here we are safe
This is the one holiday for federal workers get off and the kids are still going to school rock on
I always had school off for Columbus Day, course I did graduate HS in Y2K. Now they give the kids the whole week off and call it October Break, the first semester version of Spring Break.
In Texas (in the school district I work for) we have had Columbus day off a really long time, we still do. Some teachers still have to go in. Some staff only get Monday off while the department I work for gets both Monday and Tuesday off.
@@50calBeowulf where is that at? I thought Thanksgiving was the first semester version of spring break.
@@bmoturtleco State 48, Arizona, 1 whole week off in October, in-between school quarters.
you forgot veterans day
"He sold natives into slavery, but he didn't invent slavery"
Yeah I didn't invent murder but hopefully they'll still praise me in the history books even though I just murdered twelve children.
Why do you judge people who lived five centuries ago with today's moral values & standards?
@@saladossatur2053 because it determines if we should celebrate people from centuries ago today.
we should only celebrate good people with historical significance and remember every person with historical significance.
ever heard of ponce de león?
@@AnunGuy then we shouldn't celebrate 99% of the people of the past and we should condemn practically everyone from the Old Testament? Including God?
@@saladossatur2053 yeah
@@saladossatur2053 Even back then enslaving the natives was still pretty Bad. Columbus even threatened to cut off the tongues of anyone who told Spain of what he did in the America’s. It was wrong and he knew it
PragerU: Don't judge historical figures by today's moral standards. They were doing what was was right in their time
Also PragerU: Morality is objective because it was given to us by a being who transcends time
Which is it guys? Pick one
Notice those who claim we live on stolen land never want to leave themselves...
It's possible to make a statement of fact without saying that we are required to take a specific action to fix it.
@@kidpen Can you give the name of the country that was established before the English got here?
No, you can't because there wasn't one.
@@welderlogic1806 are you saying there has to be a country for the land to be owned by the people living there?
@@kidpen Yes. If they didn't have an established country, they didn't own anything.
Find proof of ownership and I'll believe you.
We want the whites to leave, not everyone else.
Fun fact: Columbus arrived in America, but he has never realized that. He will die convinced he landed in Asia (India)
Yea it’s kinda crazy he died without realizing he discovered the other half of the world
@@imperators_8700 he didn’t even discover it, people already lived there and the Vikings came to the americas first. Columbus is just an idiot who couldn’t read a map
and to this day pasty people still call them indians lol
@@imperators_8700 no it’s insane that he didn’t realize considering the amount of evidence
False
It’s funny to me that they say u can’t judge Columbus by today’s standards. Then also say the island also had cannibals who ate babies. You judging them in today’s standards. Maybe cannibalism was socially acceptable you can’t know it was 500 years ago. Holes in your logic. Also most US citizens are questioning why we celebrate him when he never landed in the United States. Like let the Bahamas choose to celebrate him.
Just for the record...Columbus and his actions where heavily criticized by his peers...including his Superiors. Many of them thought he was too cruel.
@@DerGuteHut exacly and this includes the monarchs of Spain themselves who thought he was too cruel
@J M He was in command. Thats very directly.
Anad even if the tribe raided each other...they didn't had a system of harsh punishments and slavery...like the one Columbus brought them.
So...even judged by his times standard (literally) he was found guilty of crimes...and ended up in jail. So...if THEY judged him...why shouldn't we?
The whole judgement thing can get dangerous. If people remember the early 2000thands as a time of islamic terrorism...than was Osama bin Laden only a "child of his time" and should not be judged by future generations?
That doesn't mean that we should not also acknowledge Columbus accomplishments...his confidence made the journey possible...so he does deserve the credit....
and whoever wants to should celebrate him.
But the question is,...if it has to be a state mandated holiday. Or if the holiday must be about him. Why not chose Vespucci the guy that America is named after or de la Casa who was advocating some forerunner of human rights...or why not celeberate Isabella who was financed the whole thing...or the heritage of the people who lost their life-style.
So indenegous day not deserve celebrate
@@danilomedalla7122 I never said to not celebrate indigenous day. I don’t think in this country, the United States, we should be celebrating a man who never came here and is attributed to horrible actions on indigenous people. Let’s get rid of Columbus Day and make it indigenous day and start teaching what actually happened to the indigenous people in our history books. We all learned about science experiments done to the Jewish people, and the camps in nazi Germany why can’t we learn about the atrocities our own ancestors did to make the country the way it is??
When the person at the store says your total is $14.92 and you automatically respond with Columbus sailed the ocean blue
"They were very well built, with very handsome bodies and very good faces....They do not carry arms or know them....They should be good servants.” - Columbus
Did you read the full quote? “They must be good servants, and intelligent, for I can see that they quickly repeat everything said to them. I believe they would readily become Christians.”
@@perrellcooper4347 And this changes things, how? If he'd said Muslims, how would you feel about his statement? May I remind you that enormous numbers of black slaves were made into your precious Christians as well. Doesn't make the slavery part any better.
@@nathanokeefe7063 You do know there's a diffrence between muslims and christians?
Also the fact that Christoffer was a chrsitian is not relevent to you?
Back then christianty was perseved as good thing you know...
Might as well find new tribes of people and say "they may be good liberals" or whatever....
@@partydave1067 What is the difference between Muslims and Christians?
@@nathanokeefe7063 Fun fact: Columbus didnt brought Africans to the New Word. It was the Priest who told the Lies about Columbus.
“While I was in the boat, I captured a very beautiful Carib woman, whom the said Lord Admiral gave to me. When I had taken her to my cabin she was naked-as was their custom. I was filled with a desire to take my pleasure with her and attempted to satisfy my desire. She was unwilling, and so treated me with her nails that I wished I had never begun. But-to cut a long story short-I then took a piece of rope and whipped her soundly, and she let forth such incredible screams that you would not have believed your ears. Eventually we came to such terms, I assure you, that you would have thought that she had been brought up in a school for whores.”
PragerU: "...but, but, but....he was a good Christian, and he was simply planting his Judeo-Christian values into heathens..."
@@ralphbernhard1757 that's not a quote from Columbus. But it was one of the other Colonizers indeed.
You should point out that this isn't Columbus, it is Michele da Cuneo
@@fernandososa6507 You're right. I initially thought this was written by Columbus. Columbus is the "Lord Admiral" who gave his friend an indigenous person.
This quote IS from Columbus: "A hundred castellanos are as easily obtained for a woman as for a farm, and there are plenty of dealers who go about looking for girls; those from nine to ten are now in demand, and for all ages a good price must be paid." Almost as equally horrifying.
@@edawgrules actually that’s not a quote either. Christopher Columbus‘s diary is not in his own words. It is well know amongst historians Bartolomé de las Casas who translated Columbus‘s diaries paraphrased and exaggerated translations of the journals to fit his own agenda.
This video brings the good, and the not so good, of Columbus to light. It does not glorify any misdeeds. Some will only focus on the negative aspects and ignore the good side of Columbus and vice versa. I just don't agree when people give the revised account of history and paint it in either black or white. I think PragerU, with Michael Knowles did a good job of not revising history.
I'll have to wait until it comes out
Lmao what about the part where they just forget to add in the part where he mutilated the people already living in the place he “discovered”.
@@mycroftholmes3725 Those people you claim to have been mutilated, maybe they were the cannibals?
Joseph Guida lol no they’re weren’t. Good try, though. (Oh also that’s not an excuse).
@@mycroftholmes3725 I wasn't claiming that to be true. I was simply asking. Like I said in the OP about PragerU ("It does not glorify any misdeeds") I myself am not trying to paint the man a Saint.
Prager u logic: They could have killed innocent people, but instead they just inslaved them and used them for harsh unpaid labor. So generous .
Fun Fact: cristopher columbs never come to United States of America.
He did however land in South- and Central-America on his third and fourth trip. But he never landed in North-America.
@@redblaze8700 yep but why is north american that are mostly interested in him
@@g1y3 I have no idea. That day is just an excuse to have a day-off from school.
@@g1y3 Because The US and Canada don’t have a sizable native population due to Genocide
Fun fact: America is a continent.
I am prepared for this to be my favorite PragerU video of all time.
Edit: I was not dissapointed. Long live my heroic namesake!
Excellent! Knowles for sure.
This has to be a Michael Knowles vid, the great defender of Columbus. Can't wait to see it.
First
His surname is derived from my much older Irish one.
Thankfully ParagerU isn’t even trying to hide the fact he was a slaver.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_abolition_of_slavery_and_serfdom
Dude, he raped native children and would write about their supple skin in his journals
This video straight up glorifies him. As if he was some noble explorer who just wanted to explore and totally wasn’t travelling for his own monetary gain.
Everyone talks about capitalism as though it were a fairly recent invention, along with the cotton mill, the steam engine and the internal combustion engine, but the truth is capitalism--and the ills that have been associated with it-- has existed in one form or another since practically the dawn of time.
Welcome to prageru. Where facts don’t matter and virtue signalling to idiots around the world.
Every explorer has done so for a gain whether you define find that it’s money or something more personal.
He didnthis to finale a Crusade aganst the Invading Ottoman Empire.
Remember the the 3 Gs of the age of exploration, God, Glory, and Gold
Fun fact- people could calculate the circumference of the earth with ships, and knew the distance between Spain and Asia. Using the speed of ships, people at the time knew and told Columbus he could literally not take enough food on his ship to make it to Asia. Big-headed Columbus brushed it off and set out on his voyage. If not for landing in the America’s, him and his crew would have starved to death in the middle of the ocean.
wait wait wait how s this man saying that columbus was respectful to the natives AND sold them into slavery? make it make sense please
The thing is; he didn't invent slavery.
xd
At the beginning there were good relationship, but in the second expedition of 1493 Columbus sold about 500 natives
And the part about not having maps back in the 1400s was extremely wrong,example of maps dating back to the A.D. 500s still exist today,and the reason the experts claimed it couldn't be done was that, Columbus completely botched his math claiming the earth is tens of thousands of miles smaller than it actually was,if Columbus didn't stumble upon the Americas,He and his crew would have starved to death.
he enslaved the cannibal caribs, in fact i think the word "cannibal" comes from a carib tribe
@Lucas Lombardo you didn't get anything that doesnt side with your pathetic emotional bias do you? I guess you are one of the wokes who wish to bring the name "happy indigenous day" well, it ain't gonna happen, they have done anything spectacular. Everyone remembers the native americans as only peaceful loving tribes when in truth they were no different from other peoples, the "civilized" native americans were even worst, living with perpetual sacrifices each days. but no, im sure that might be another made up thing wrote centuries later, isn't right?
"There is no War in Basing-Se" but it's needlessly stretched out for five and a half minutes.
Funny but wrong, good luck at a lucid critique
@@fromjp2theatre459 K, genocide apologist.
It’s Actually Ba Sing Se and not even close
@@jackmitchelles2646 K, person who was blind to see that the Fire Nation was a metaphor to constantly throw shade on American imperialism, genocidal acts, and state-demanded nationalism.
Christopher Columbus discovered the New World, where today many entities are named in his honor such as the federal District of Columbia, the nation of Colombia, the province of British Columbia, Columbia University, Columbia Records, Columbia Pictures, and the cities of Columbia, South Carolina, Columbus, Ohio, Columbus, Mississippi, Columbus, Indiana, Columbus, Georgia, and Columbus, Nebraska to name a few, but Amerigo Vespucci was first to set foot upon the soil that would quickly come to bear his name, the Americas consisting of the continents of North America and South America, including the region of Central America and the nation of America.
Columbus never set foot on American soil. www.theodysseyonline.com/christopher-columbus-was-evil
@Olu That's true. They came from somewhere. Land masses were different long ago. "We’ve known for a long time that the indigenous peoples of the Americas are descended from a group of people who crossed a land connection between Asia and North America sometime during the Last Glacial Maximum (26,500 to 19,000 years before present, or YBP)," www.theguardian.com/science/2018/jan/03/what-the-ancient-dna-discovery-tells-us-about-native-american-ancestry
Olu
Inferior... unworthy... irrelevant...
Next.
LOUIS XVII, how is it irrelevant that he in fact never discovered the new world, that whole premise implies that either native Americans are not people, or they don’t matter
@Olu I hope my response isn't taken as a snipe. It's an honest reaction. Context is important. No one of reason claims Columbus discovered the "New World" on behalf of the entire human race. Clearly he discovered it on behalf of the "Old World" and conversely caused the "New World" to "discover" the "Old World." Also, please see the origins of the "indigenous" peoples graciously posted by "@Doris White" shortly after you.
It is integral to know information about this event, but we should in no way celebrate Columbus who was evil even to past standards.
Reading Columbus' diary at the time is positively revealing.
I think the lesson of Columbus is that most historical figures are bad and blindly celebrating them ignores the evil parts of our history and paints over it with a reassuring lie. Also I love how quickly this dude just brushed over the atrocities part.
There's something that you're missing. Had you been alive, 500 years ago, you'd have been no different. You'd like to think that you'd be different but you wouldn't have been. It's the same thing had you been a teenager in Munich in 1936. Do you seriously believe that you'd have been the 15 year old that would speak out against the Fuehrer? That you'd be that special kid that refused to join the Hitler Youth? I doubt it very much. You'd be proudly goosestepping along in Hitler Youth parades along with all your buddies and classmates. I say that because you're human and as such you'd be exactly what your culture of the moment had made you. Right now, the culture demands that you vilify Columbus. 100 years ago, you wouldn't have done that.
Don't think that you're better than Columbus because deep down you're not. None of us are.
@@JackHaveman52
Well if you didn't contribute to a genocide you're automatically better than him by eons.
Even in his time Christopher was considered a grotesque and horrendous individual. Give it up and stop trying to justify his glorification.
@@davidmays8974
I'm not BETTER than anyone. Neither are you. That's the biggest problem that the human race has had all through our history. "We're BETTER than you" and that belief has given licence to the killing of hundreds of millions of people.
The SAME people that considered Columbus a horrendous individual, committed that same atrocities that he did, some of them even worse. This was about politics and envy and most of today's criticism is about expounding on their moral superiority. If this was a "Columbus" problem, it would have ended with his death, only 14 years after he landed in the Americas. In fact, it became WORSE, after he died.
Columbus is a figurehead, something solid to latch onto when people want to prove how virtuos they are.
@@JackHaveman52
It's not wrong to say that anyone who hasn't committed genocide is automatically better than Christopher Columbus. And it isn't wrong to say that I am, either, I'm just an ordinary citizen living life.
@@davidmays8974
And if you'd sailed with Columbus, you'd have been complicit with Columbus. People LOVE to think that they're SO good but it's damned easy when you don't live in a time or situation where these things were happening.
My parents grew up in Nazi occupied Netherlands. Do you know who the Nazi soldiers were? They were ordinary people, just like you and me. One time farmers, shop keepers, factory workers, living ordinary lives and they found themselves doing some of the most atrocious acts in our recent history. These same ordinary Germans went into my mother's home when she was 11 years old and took ALL their food. They almost starved to death. Had you or I been one of those soldiers, we'd have done the same. We're just not in that situation.
The Spanish had no problem with slavery. No one did at the time. It was a part of life all over the planet. The Aztecs were taking slaves and them brutally murdering them in religious ceremonies and doing it by the hundreds. Funny how NO one calls that brutal. Columbus wrote that the native Tainos had told him about the fierce and warlike Caribs, who used to raid the Tainos for cannibalistic rituals and capture and enslave their women. Once again, I don't hear you complaining about THEIR brutality.
No one is perfect and that includes you. If you think that you wouldn't have been goose stepping in the Nazi ranks had you been born in Germany in 1925, you're only kidding yourself. Any honest person has to admit that they'd have done the same. It's the dishonest ones who puff out their chest and point fingers at everyone else thinking that they're better than others. Once you believe that, and it appears that you do, you'll find that you'd be quite ready and willing to do horrific things to those who you believe are worse than what you are. It's the way of humanity all through history. You haven't learned a thing except to believe that you're superior to "those people" over there.
We can judge his character by looking at how Columbus treated his fellow Europeans. His crewmates considered him to be a cruel tyrant as the punishments inflicted upon them by Columbus were very extreme even for the time. He was also instructed by Ferdinand and Isabella (the two leaders of Spain at the time) to treat the natives well and with care, something he blatantly ignored. He didn't intend to cause a genocide, but he didn't care at all and was interested only in exploiting the natives.
To protest the colonization of America, Antifa pulled down a statue of Abraham Lincoln in Oregon.🤪
Everything we see and do in modern times throughout the America's was started by Christopher Columbus's journey to the new world.
He was a great man! Thanks Chris!
@jshowa o Yeah I know that. But the vikings didn't want anyone to find out about their new source of bog ores plus other minerals, also some natural resources. All secret treasures to the vikings.
Columbus brought Europe to the America's. In turn modernizing the new world. That's what Columbus did.....
@Dog Lover Well 500 years ago he did what everybody else did. So nobody was very nice.
You can't put their way of living on our modern standards of living. 500 years ago pretty much every country had some sort of slavery. Killing was common in many places. Non-stop wars, horrible health conditions. Disease and death all over.
In Europe bathing was considered unhealthy by most people. In my opinion life in Europe was miserable.
Here's one. Columbus landed in the Caribbean in 1492. We didn't start trying to create a country until 1776. That's 284 year's. That's longer than we've been a country. People did improve during those years. Many things changed.
This guy was psychotic even for his own time, he got sent to jail for a while for needless cruelty.
and when he was released he was still stripped of his title of governer of the indies
He was send to Prison because husbSpanish rivals werenJealous and and falsley accused him to steal Profits from the spanish Crown.
Based was considered psychotic and went to jail based on false accusations.
@@johns3927bro he was a ruthless murderer he wasn’t “based” 😂
@@DavidSwemost of the deaths attributed to him were from disease, at a time when germ theory wasn’t even formalized yet. The rest were the result of helping protect the Taino tribe against the Carib tribe, the latter of which enslaved and ATE the former. I’m not saying he was a saint, but he wasn’t the demon depicted in recent years either.
So it is wrong to judge Columbus's enslavement and exploitation from our modern standards but not the Caribs and their canabalism? Do your parameters of judgment actually extend to modern vs. historical standards, or simply what race a culture happens to be?
This is a pretty balanced presentation. No, I'm not Italian.
B uppy That’s funny. Thank you.
@@eo9337
This acknowledges that Columbus was imperfect (as were all the other players at the time). Columbus paved the way for Native Americans to make their contributions and help propel Western world forward.
What else can one expect?
@Cryonic Family
That is a desperately sad video that is meaningless, like your comment.
@jshowa o
What do you think got Columbus to overlook his own fears and push onward? Get a little perspective. 'Sheer force of will' turned out okay in this instance. A round earth was still theory in those days.
@jshowa o
You are obnoxious. Yes, I know the Queen of Spain backed him. He managed to get his crew to keep going is the point you missed (that and that they made it. Lol)
No, the native Americans discovered America. And that was thousands of years ago.
@Ted Clutter how were they squatting on our land lmao? U realize there were post Stone Age civilisations in the americas after Colombus right? The Aztecs, Mayas, and Incas even had empires not to mention the extensive use of agriculture. For the record, humans, wherever they went wiped out megafauna. From Europe to Australia and the americas humans overhunted. The americas were first colonisés by native Americans and their land was stolen and their peoples forced through genocide by europeans.
@@nerdimusprime8753
sry bro, we don't want these idiots back, we have enough already :(
@Ted Clutter They didn’t have the wheel because they didn’t bloody need it or could use it. What were they going to have pull the wagons? Cows? Horses?They didn’t have cows or horses. They didn’t have much in the way of any useful animals besides alpacas. And that was in South America. The dies of fate was not on their side when rolled.
@@tophatmetagross1497 And also they did have wheels
@Ted ClutterYour "children of the forest" did in fact have wheels
"To arrive at a just estimate of a renowned man’s character one must judge it by the standards of his time, not ours. Judged by the standards of one century, the noblest characters of an earlier one lose much of their luster; judged by the standards of to-day, there is probably no illustrious man of four or five centuries ago whose character could meet the test at all points. "-Mark Twain, Personal Recollections of Joan of Arc
Columbus was judged insane even by his own peers. The crown stripped his governorship of Hispaniola because of it. This is a pretty unhappy way to sound smart in this context.
@@Blaze6108 He was stripped and then reinstated for arresting Spaniards who were abusing the natives.
Las Casas thought Columbus was bad back then too, bad argument
@Christopher Stanley Except he never did that. That is "not his writings" you have been lied to. That is based on a journal of a guy who never knew Columbus 60+ years after Columbus' death, and useful idiots parrot it as it fits their narrative.
@jshowa o You completely avoided my point to act like a moron. He was stripped of his power *because* he was arresting Spainards for abuses against the natives. Spain didn't give a shit about the natives, the fact that people think they would punish him for that is idiocy.
He was released from prison and reinstated in terms of his enterprises. That does not mean he went back to being governor.
It’s my Birthday y’all! I turned 16 today! I’m already attending community college but I still wanted to share my joy with you!
Congrats
Stop caring so much about politics, have your values and keep them, get a life, get drunk with your friends and get hobbies you enjoy, scouring the internet for political information is detrimental to your health.
@@user-vv1do1wg1j I mean that sounds like a pretty rocking life
Happy Birthday! And don't listen to that other comment. There's far more proof that excessive drinking is bad for you than listening to politics is.
@@RachelDee that’s a fair point
Nice comrade
I came here from the response video by BadEmpanada. I wanted to watch this video first.
"He saw things no other man of his time saw" EXCEPT FOR ALL THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE
You missed the point lol
He was comparing how he was seen then vs now
@@spookson5679 im talking about native americans
"There was no genocide"
Yikes... yall actually got people convinced of this sht?
Although I mostly enjoy this channel, I greatly disagree with the video. Columbus did not discover the Americas, millions of Natives already lived here, and he wasn’t the first European in the Americas. You can’t discover a place where people already live. Secondly, this man did not prove the world was round (I know that wasn’t talked in the video, but many people believe he did). Greeks and Egyptians knew that for thousands of years. Third, he didn’t do much good. His policies were horrible and his actions led to massive pandemics, slavery, rape, and extermination of millions of Natives. Fourth, I wouldn’t say he was the greatest explorer of all time. It’s my personal opinion, but what about Marco Polo, Ferdinand Magellan, or Walter Raleigh? Or even the ancestors of Natives who were the real discoverers of the Americas? Fifth, he never even set foot in the United States. He did set foot in Haiti, the Dominican Republic, and the Bahamas, so why do we celebrate him? Again, this is my opinion.
this is an averige pragerU video, now you just notice the lies
Columbus did rediscover North America, the Vikings only stayed there for a year, and had no official record of it so by the time Columbus did rediscovered it, it had been forgotten.
I've also never heard anything about people claiming that Columbus was the only one who believed the Earth was flat, however I do believe there were people who believed that since there are people that believes it even today.
Third, those causes weren't direcyly made by Columbus himself but was just unexpected effects, other unexpected effects were the western political system moving towards democracy. And even if he didn't discover the US or Canada specifically doesn't mean that his discovery wasn't big.
I find the story of his perseverance against the odds irrelevant to the atrocities he committed. Actions that cause (undeserved) harm are crime, actions that cause no harm are ones own business.
If you're going to make accusations you're going to need to prove them.
@@jamesmchernry7759 Google, Columbus Atrocities against the Taino and a bunch will show up.
Nobody cares. Columbus isn't an important history figure for the horrid crap he did; he's an important history figure because he sparked the colonization of the Americas by Europe. And you know this. You just lick leftist boots and smear who they tell you to smear and think how they tell you to think.
4:02 this video is so bad it almost hurts so im gonna try and break this down starting here. "Columbus sold people into slavery but he didnt invent slavery" that defense doesnt hold up at all. Just because you arent the first one to do something doesn't remove your part in it. Imagine if when on trial for war crimes all the germans said was "we werent the first ones to commit war crimes". Secondly at 4:28 this video states that you cant judge columbus by modern moral standards. This is actually true. But luckily for us we dont have to. Columbus disgusted people back then as well. Columbus was arrested for being so brutal and cruel even to the Spainish back then. He chopped off limbs for stealing corn. He told his men to "bring the natives under the spanish yoke" which meant rape,enslave and kill people untill they submit and give you gold. And finally columbus didnt even discover America. In fact he never technically stepped foot in "america" the closest he got central america in Honduras. So he isnt the first person to step food in America. He isnt the first European to step foot in America. And he only technically even stepped foot in america.
5:02 why? This arrival killed 90% of the people living there,made their lives significantly worse and enslaved them.
😖 I HATE that Columbus Day is being renamed as Indigenous Peoples Day by some entities!
You have to do more than just hate it. You have to explain why it's wrong, and evil.
I call them entitled asshole
Fun fact: After 11 Italians were lynched in New Orleans in 1891 the US government created Columbus Day as a way to celebrate Italian American pride. It holds considerable meaning to the Italian American community. Removing or replacing that day is only pandering to extremists. Also please note Columbus wasn’t any more brutal than the natives. Additionally the majority of the deaths from his voyage were due to disease.
@@njshift Yeah, I know.
I was actually surfing Hulu, only last night, and noticed they were holding, 'Vendetta' (1999), a TV movie for HBO, about the all-too unknown lynching.
What? I have not heard about that!
4:24 "It's unfair to judge someone who lived 500 years ago by today's standards" Even by standards of 500 years ago, Columbus did horrible things to those native people.
Man, exploring the world back then, when everything was so unknown and mysterious, would have been amazing indeed. Getting on a ship and sailing to a new country would have been incredible.
AHAHAHAHAHA ua-cam.com/video/QS299VkXZxI/v-deo.html
@Ace Diamonds Not sure why that would matter. If you were going somewhere other than Europe, the locals typically wouldn't have been white anyway.
He never got to know, that he found America - he thought it was India
haha scurvy, starvation, and low pay go BRRRRRRRRRRR
@@Admiral45-10 he didn't even find america, he found the bahamas
Free our homie Columbus he ain’t do nothin’
Come on man
Didn't do nuttin, just jogging through the Bahamas
lol
yes he did
He was a good boy, doing good in school, had his whole future ahead of him
I'm happy PragerU addressed Columbus' life, voyage and his actions perfectly and it was spot on. He wasn't a blameless man (nor is anyone) and he did some bad things to the tribe. The fact about the tribe eating babies was new information to me. And yes we celebrate Columbus for the arrival of western civilisation. God bless you all.
the tribe eating babies is a history made by columbus and his companions theres no factual evidence this actually happened lets not forget the europeans liked to portray others as cannibals while the europeans themsleves were cannibals eating dead ppl up into the 18th century eating organs etc of dead ppl in the beliefit would have health benefits....or the swiss mercenaries who cut out the hearts of the enemies and ate them just to put into perspective how euros portrayed others even if they themselves did similar things
@@ojberrettaberretta5314 You're repeating tired talking points. Anthropology studies have confirmed they were cannibals and the European portrayal was accurate.
Notice how PragerU used no sources at any point in the video
@@mack7235 If you go to the description box, you can click on the script transcript. It takes you to the website where all of the sources are listed...
The Caribs were not cannibals. That was a lie invented to justify conquest. You had to make people seem lesser to justify atrocities. I am always amazed as to how foreigners are easy to point fingers instead of finding the truth.
In 1492, Columbus sailed the PragerU
*1942
Even in Spain there are haters.
Sad but true. Although there aren't as many as you would expect
Only some Podemita idiots
Hater's gonna hate hate but is in our hand to share the good message. Just 1 week until October 12th!
The Spanish (at least those under his authority) resented Columbus almost from the start because he was Genoese rather than Spanish. This resentment of a foreigner being in charge of the Indies hampered his efforts to administer Hispaniola. The Portuguese Magellan would encounter the same difficulty.
@@williamknox9087 I don't think the same
It's Columbus day! Not Indigenous peoples day. I refuse to rename the Holiday.
I understand, you love genocide after all your political candidate is a fascist
@@dedreik9982 Have you heard Trump's speeches? Oh my god, you translate him to german and you get the weird moustache guy
Tony915 Long live Columbus’ Day!
When can we have indigenous European People’s day?
How about a whole new holiday, and forget about Columbus Day?
i was gonna go to the circus today but it looks like they brought the clown to me
The video presents the argument that there was no instance of direct violence against the indigenous peoples during Columbus's expeditions, suggesting instead that only "atrocities" occurred. However, a closer examination of Columbus's policies reveals a much harsher reality. His administration implemented systems of forced labor and outright enslavement, contributing to widespread violence. These actions had catastrophic effects on the Indigenous populations, particularly the Taíno, who faced a dramatic decline to the brink of extinction as a result of these brutal policies.
Furthermore, the assertion that "Columbus did Not invent Slavery" holds an element of truth; indeed, systems of slavery had existed for centuries in various cultures worldwide before Columbus's voyages. Nevertheless, Columbus's actions marked a significant turning point in the institutionalization of the enslavement of Indigenous peoples in the Americas. His practices established a framework and set a dangerous precedent that not only legitimized such exploitation but also paved the way for the horrific transatlantic slave trade that would follow, deepening the atrocities committed against countless individuals and cultures.
Columbus once had someone's ears and nose cut off, and then sold them into slavery because they stole corn. Do I need to say any more?
I kidnapped my neighbor at gunpoint and chained him to my stove, and now he cooks and does my dishes for me. But it’s ok, since I didn’t invent slavery.
@@banzaihenozu1468 I think the sensitive one here is Michael Knowles, who got triggered when he heard the truth about his beloved Columbus
@@banzaihenozu1468 ah yes im sensitive beacuse i think enslaving people is wrong,
@@banzaihenozu1468 No, we’re human people with humanly feelings just like how you claim your idiotic Christopher Columbus was. If you think being too sensitive over a fiend who committed mass genocide, something is seriously wrong with you.
Lol
@@banzaihenozu1468 oh yes because hating slavery is “sensitive”
I would love to see Michael Knowles discuss this with a professor.
@@larsfrisk6658Are there any serious professors left?
They would just pull the fire alarm to get out of the debate as they always do.
@@junglemoose2164 Is that a serious question?
Leif Erikson: Am I a joke to you?
Leifr Eiríksson*, also, Bjarni Herjólfsson discovered it first.
Well yes because all he did was settle northeastern North America. He didn't connect the old world and new world for eternity like Columbus did
Stfu
@@dandei545 NO
Isabel of castilla made a law that made it illegal to enslave any castillian citizen, Columbus not only claimed the new land in the name of castilla, but also enslaved the inhabitants and brutally mistreated them, so when he went back home almost everyone judged him and was considered a villan andan atrocious person until... in 1870's or so, like 300 years ago the spanish empire finally began crumbling withmany crisis in Cuba, it was then when he was first considered a hero and most of his monument where made (at least in Spain) it was done to emphasize the idea of the spanish ownership of south America. So we are not judging him by today's standards, but judging the 1800's colonialist standards that were attached to his persona
People who tear down great men subscribe to “the small man’s view of history.”.
If you consider Columbus a "great man", I'd hate to know who you think isn't.
Great man theory do be kinda cringe tho
“I was filled with a desire to take my pleasure with her and attempted to satisfy my desire. She was unwilling, and so treated me with her nails that I wished I had never begun. I then took a piece of rope and whipped her soundly, and she let forth such incredible screams that you would not have believed your ears. Eventually we came to such terms, I assure you, that you would have thought she had been brought up in a school for whores.” (Referring to a child by the way) You guys are celebrating a 15th century Jeffrey Epstein
@J M it’s from the guy Columbus trafficked the child to, hence the Epstein comparison
@J M “While I was in the boat, I captured a very beautiful Carib woman, whom the said Lord Admiral gave to me. “ very clearly referring to Christopher Columbus as it references his title directly and refers to the period he was in charge so there’s no ambiguity there
I wonder how PragerU will put a spin on this
As an Italian, i must say that is pretty confortable to see that not everybody as lost their minds in America.
“I was filled with a desire to take my pleasure with her and attempted to satisfy my desire. She was unwilling, and so treated me with her nails that I wished I had never begun. I then took a piece of rope and whipped her soundly, and she let forth such incredible screams that you would not have believed your ears. Eventually we came to such terms, I assure you, that you would have thought she had been brought up in a school for whores.” (Referring to a child by the way) You guys are celebrating a 15th century Jeffrey Epstein
@Gustavo Octavio deCampos I think only weak men need heroes who they deify and worship with rose tinted glasses. Be your own man and stop looking for a "history daddy" to look up to. Look at history objectively and take it all in, the good and the bad. Be your own man.
@Gustavo Octavio deCampos The Roman Empire is fascinating and their technological and cultural achievements are many and great. No problem celebrating a proud history, especially if you can recognize the atrocities and not try to create a Walt Disney version of them. History is messy, history is full of genocide, rape, ect. but that's part of history! Let's not ignore the bad for the sake of the good and consider everything. History is doomed to repeat itself if we don't learn from our past mistakes.
4:29 even by the standards of the day some of his followers called him a psychopath, he would do inhumane experiments like throwing an axe at a line of native americans and counting how many he could decapitate to "see how tough they are". He even had his own settlers beaten to death for exchanging gold for food during times of starvation, yeah his atrocities were not limited to the native people, he would chop off tongues for disrespect
Fun fact: Many Italian American leaders who wanted Columbus Day to be a national holiday also loved Benito Mussolini’s conquest of Libya and Ethiopia.
Leif Erickson was first. I told that to my kindergarten teacher way back when-- she thought I was nuts.
You are not "nuts". You are not totally wrong. It's just that in order to "discover" something you have to spread the word to enough people that it makes a difference. Erickson failed to do that. His journey amounted to NOTHING. The first man to fall off a cliff did NOT "discover gravity".
@Lucas Lombardo But not well known enough to put anything on world maps. Face it. The world was different AFTER his voyage. The same can't be said about the Vikings (or the Greeks who, some are saying, discovered America more than 2000 years ago).
Erickson was a great man, but his empire of his people did not colonize the Americas. Though there were some settlements. Colombus had a civilization that conquered the Americas due to having modern weaponry which the Vikings lacked. Both men should be celebrated but Colombus is even more deserving of a day, despite me being a Pagan myself.
I wanted to like the video but I think you can judge someone's choices by modern standards if those standards are legitimate. If they are they apply to everyone from all cultures and times. I can agree that it's unfair to focus on his sins, not that it's a problem for him now.
He wasn’t even good by the standards back then
False. Zinn propaganda.@@megaladon5203
My guy he was literally on trial in Spain for he crimes against the natives. He didn’t set foot on American soil his entire life. He genocides Hispaniola that’s it. Don’t revere this monster.
He was brought to trial for his crimes against the colonists, not the natives. Spain didn't care all that much about the natives. They did order Columbus to stop enslaving them multiple times to no avail, but they never punished him for these actions
I hope you get a chance to read this: I am an American history teacher at a middle school. I showed this video to my students today, since we were in session. I was able to debunk many myths that my students had learned from social media and changed many minds about Columbus. Just wanted to let you know that there are some conservative teachers still left in the US that teach facts and not feelings. Thanks for the video.
What "myths"? He enslaved and tortured the native population for their gold, to the point that his own Spanish patrons put him in jail. The only "myths" here are being spread by conservatives who want to whitewash Columbus.
I hope you get fired for misinformation. Actually can I get your workplace so I can slap you with a history book? From, a real historian.
Maybe someone should sow your mouth shut so you don’t damage any more youths with your lies. Don’t say you’re a historian when you believe anything without checking credibility. I hope you disappear because you put dirt on the name of historian.
Dude Columbus was slandered by other Europeans at the time. There’s a lot of stupid stuff on social media, but Columbus shouldn’t be admired by anyone
Summary: Don't judge Columbus by today's standards, but I'll judge you if you don't agree with my whitewashed story of him.
Well said
Another perspective don't judge the Incas by today's standards even though the sacrificed and enslaved people you can't talk about that because it isn't going to be politically correct but definitely judge people like Columbus only. There are many people, civilizations, leaders, and etc you can certainly judge. But as far as "whitewashing" unless you are willing to actually look at all of these parts of history honestly and be truthful the shouting from soapboxes falls on deaf ears. You can find plenty done wrong in multiple white and nonwhite civilizations throughout history, yet it's quite interesting that now it's focused on one and if you mention the others shame.
well we should look down on anyone who challenges columbus, he is a hero of our civilization and to dislike what he did is to forget such things are necessary to build a civilization
please do look down upon me from your parent's basement @@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit what inhuman things to say , it's like saying to indigenous people and slave have to die fo you to prosper , he was evil like h itl er was even by back then standart , it like celebrating hitler because if the advancing of medecine using human expermient
He cut off the hands of natives who couldn’t get him gold. Half of the arawak of Haiti commited suicide and killed their kids… all because Columbus wanted gold and wow his king. All greed - no exploration
Baloney
......who told you that? Aoc?😂
@@alexalexalex797 it’s documented and factual but that’s not to say that the Arawak were not violent imperial colonizers themselves. Just stating facts my dumb little hillbilly
@@Entropy106 dumb hillbilly?😂
Ok neomilennial gender genie.
The fact is, in that era, everything that happened was very standard. And done by everyone.
The natives themselves would’ve done it if they could. Such was the world. (Shocking for you, i know.)
Colombus was rather very lenient COMPARATIVELY.
So mirroring colombus to genghis khan or some blood thirsty maniac might be a stretch🤷♂️
Just think, hundreds of millions of Europeans were slaves, or serfs, for hundreds if not a thousand years. Some were.treated well, others slaughtered, raped or pillaged. Some masters/lords.were.good some were bad, but as always slavery is bad for both society and the individual.
Were they separated from their families, their beliefs, their religions, seen as non humans, treated as cattle, lost all human rights, etc? Not quite.
Slavery is bad in general when it is forced labor, but there are many different levels
Free the homie, he didn't do nothing
#columbus
I'm Irish & Cherokee & Cris Columbus was a great explorer despite the bad things that he did but there's good that he did as well. 🍂🍁🎃🇺🇸🦅
What good?
Lmao, still waiting.
The good he did came as a result of his discovery.
@@regularguy2807 like genocide and the plantation system?
@@botodin6979yeah, like wtf do they count MURICA existing as a good thing?
*In fourteen hundred ninety-two*
*Columbus sailed the ocean blue.*
*He had three ships and left from Spain;*
*He sailed through sunshine, wind and rain...*
*That poem is anathema nowadays in public schools.*
@Terminator 7250 Because "Columbus man bad"
The real argument concerning the plan was about how big the world is and whether they would all die before they got to the east. It turned out his opponents were right that the world was about the size that had been accepted for over 1,500 years. Accidentally running into the Bahamas saved Columbus and his crew, and made known to Europe an entirely unknown land.
Columbus 1492!!!!!!!!
If you want to teach your children patriotism, you teach them American history not American mythology.
PoDH I don’t get the reference. Are you saying this video was so fake it might as well be mythology?
Yeah definitely don’t let them watch PragerU
@@FrankieFishess
Pretty much every single conservative take on history? Like 'american exceptionalism' became a thing because conservative would only focus on the good part of america and never admits the bad part of america.
Howard Zinn literally rewrote Columbus', and America's, history, and is a large reason both are vilified in pop media today. Zinn was not a historian, he was self a proclaimed anti american communist protagonist and spin doctor.
@@50calBeowulf you aren't a historian either, so by that logic, since I don't agree with your statements, you're a lying spindoctor.
Columbus embarked on a voyage without GPS, without radar, without gas-fueled engines, without knowing whether he’d survive. He accomplished so much on this journey. And he lived the times ... 1492 was a long time ago. Slavery was common - even the tribes native to North/South America took slaves. His accomplishment was the first time in thousands of years that the continents became interconnected. His success setup the free world for poor people to come from all over the globe. Auto - Plane - Electricity - Phone - Computer - Stock Market - and more were all invented in the Americas. Without his discovery we wouldn’t be globally connected or nearly as advanced as we are today.
Bruh the stock market and electricity were not invented in the americas
Danny Agunbia - Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Edison are American. Edison made a glass bulb light up and it’s the same design we use today. Tesla invented better current (AC/DC) but derived his work from Edison.
The Dutch East India Company operated as a stock would today - they invested in ships going to the Americas to gain goods. Americans took the idea to the next level with investments into companies, not just commodities.
The "barbarians" found America first bud
Also this dude committed genocide so uh no I ain't celebrating shit, tell history as it happened and dont "forget" the important parts.
nuclear socialist - explain how Columbus committed genocide? You guys and the K-12 public education. Move to Africa and you’ll see genocide up close and personal and it’s happening right now. Your arrogance is so putrid it stinks the air like the days of 1492 when people crapped in the streets of Spain. You’d rather worry about something 500 years ago versus grow hair on your balls and do something about the present. But don’t worry cuz you’re so smart you have a cool name like nuclear socialist. Move out of your mom’s basement into a country like Venezuela and the tell me about how cool your socialist idea is ... oh wait it’s not because people try to escape all the time from that country to get to the USA. Barbarians discovered America? The Vikings may have found upper Canada / Nova Scotia but it’s a contested theory. Oh by the way ... since Vikings rape, pillaged and plundered England for almost a thousand years we should banish any mention of their origin right? There go your Scandinavian socialist countries too. Have a great time looking up the society in the history books without any fault or wrongdoing.
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This is one of the most misleading historically inaccurate video I have watched on this channel. Sad to see. Unsubbed. Shame on you.
You've finally awaken. Good
You were subscribed in the first place and didn't realize Prager u is straight propaganda???
The way he said the natives and Europeans married... And raped...
@Mummichog lol
the left is full of these uninformed and self-harming "social justice" upholders and "socialists"
the right is just a bunch of batshit crazy and stubborn conspiracy-theory-believing racist nutjobs
@@nerd2544 i would argue the left is growing to be racist as well
Christopher Columbus brought much needed diversity to a homogeneous society
I'm only 15 seconds into the video and have to correct these people.
Colombus wasn't the first european to set foot on the American continent, the vikings were.
He also didn't discover it because first the continent had always been there and second cause the indigenous people were there before anyone else.
Native Americans aren't NATIVE Americans. They came from Asia thousands of years ago
@@Aaron-dq3xz if native Americans aren't Americans aren't Americans because they came from Asia thousands years ago. How the F can today Americans be considered Americans
@@louaymasbah4720 the key word is "native". Use your eyes
@@Aaron-dq3xz i don't know if you use the word native and indigenous differently (do you mean by natives the people who were there before Colombus or the first people who landed in America?)
If some people lived continuously in a land for thousands of years especially of they were the first people who lived there it becomes their land and people call the natives or indigenous people.
If you want to say that there aren't native Americans then there's no natives at all anywhere in the world.
@@Aaron-dq3xz sorry for the bad grammar btw i hope you understood my idea
Fun fact, the currency of El Salvador and Costa Rica is "The Colón or Colónes" to honor Cristóbal Colón (Columbus), and the capital of El Salvador is "San Salvador". My point is, do not believe anybody who tells you that Latinos "hate" Christopher Columbus, when in fact it is quite the opposite! Latinos not only treasure but also celebrate our rich history. Happy Columbus day in advance everybody! :)
Just in case, El Salvador uses both the Colón and the U.S Dollar as the national currency.
latinos are not a monolith many do hate him in argentina we also changed the name because of the horrific things he has done so we do not celebrate him but all cultures in the continent,i look at columbus the same way i look at muhammad, a lunatic who liked little girls so i do not see any reason to celebrate someone like this
As a Latino, we Dominicans hate Christopher Columbus and denounce his heinous actions to the Taino people.
Columbus has not been celebrated for centuries. He was incorporated into the US’s culture to help xenophobs accept Italian immigrants.
He thought the Earth was shaped like a pear. He never realized the Americas and Asia were separate places.
The accusations of genocide come mostly from written accounts of how he treated the natives. Including his own accounts, where he says they kind nature made them easy to be enslaved.
He was not a hero. He was a hack of a navigator who lucked when some royals gave him the bare minimum to try and find a way to India, around the Ottomans.
Why is this guys a hill worth dying on?
its a historic fact that after receiving hospitality from the taino people Columbus returned to the Bahamas himself with 17 ships and 1200 men and enslaved the taino and tried steal their hidden gold(which they had none of)also till 1828 Columbus was known as a murderous failure at 1828 he was made a hero by a book Washington Erwin wrote on him by that time most people had no idea who Columbus was (fun fact Columbus thought that the earth was pear shaped and had a nipple on top he wrote this himself)
You left quite a bit out. It is documented that the Taino‘s and Columbus developed quite an amicable relationship during his first stay. Some Taino’s willingly ventured back to Spain with Columbus. Columbus converted those Tainos and even tried adopting them.
Upon leaving Columbus instructed his settlers to make sure that the Tainos on Hispaniola be protected during his frequent absences. After Columbus returned he learned many of the colonizers were massacred and the remaining settlers rampaged the villages, robbing, raping, and enslaving. Disciplinary actions towards the settlers by Columbus and his brother were met with open revolt.
It got so bad that the Spanish crown sent an investigator, who took over as governor, arrested Columbus, and sent him back to Spain in chains. The new governor Nicolás de Ovando was far worse.
De Ovando was the man who is actually credited with formally establishing the encomienda system along with most of its atrocities.
@@njshiftOh Columbus was not better than the Spanish Governor who replaced him. Columbus never even as much as raised a finger when the Indigenous Taino were being slaughtered.
Why should we celebrate a terrible explorer that mistook the earth to be far smaller than it actually was, stumbled on America on accident never set foot on the modern day USA ,was not even the first eurooean let alone first human to set foot on America, and stumbled on America on accident?
@@Good100 so does every explorer,should we celebrate every one of them? Columbus was a dumb man that thought the earth was a lot smaller than it actually was, and did not set a foot on The modern day USA was not even the first European let alone human to set foot on America,he was not special.in anyway at all
5 and a half minutes of rewriting history thats insane.
*Can one be Latino today without Columbus?*
Latin is from Europe. Catholicism is from Europe. and the Spanish language - from Europe.
shouldn't Latinos be celebrating Columbus day as well? you simply can't be Latino without him.
It also does not help Columbus that none of his original journals survived to be translated. Instead, transcripts that are more than often taken out of context serve to spite the man. Columbus wasn't a saint, but he does not bear the weight of all history's wrongs.
Also, if you favor Indigenous People's Day, actually celebrate indigenous people; don't just change the name and effectively make it Anti-Columbus Day.
By Michael's logic, he shouldn't care if there are drag shows and Satanism 500 years from now because we will have different standards
He didn’t discover a new world. The Viking Leif Eriksson and his men were the first Europeans to discover it 500 years before him.
I think the context of the video is that history is Eurocentric.
The Siberians discovered it after their trek across the Bering Strait hundreds of years before The Vikings
Big Mac Discovered it for the Europeans who had not known of its existence.
That doesn't count in the same way because it was abandoned and forgotten about before anyone really knew about it. Columbus was the first to truly introduce the two worlds to each other.
@safe space I didn't say anything about the morality of Columbus' actions, I was simply arguing that Columbus' claim is superior to Lief Erikson's.
"he saw things no man of his age had ever seen" you know except for the millions of native peoples who already lived ever where he went 🤷♂️
he probably meant in his area, but idk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@R.U.E.Entertainment That's exactly the problem. An Eurocentric vision of history.
The Portuguese experts were correct; barring the existence of the Americas, traveling around the world was impossible at the time. Columbus' math was off, meaning he thought the circumference of the earth was smaller than it is. He and his crew would have starved to death if they hadn't found land when they did.
My wife, born a Mexican Citizen now a US Citizen, loves Columbus and what he did for the world. In Mexico, Columbus is still celebrated and taught as the world's greatest explorer and a great man.