No Meat Since 1989: Tackling Every Vegan Argument: Eugene
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In reply to the comments of some viewers: I stopped eating all meat, including fish, in 1989. I stopped eating dairy and eggs in 2000. The web site is the first link in the video description.
Thanks Eugene You're incredible! We love you!
@@VeganLinked Thanks. And thanks for all of your hard work.
Engaging and compelling interview Eugene, I tip my hat to you.
He’s so articulate and I admire and agree 💯% with his ethical stance on being a Vegetarian and then a Vegan. Bravo. Superb interview.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting I'm so glad you liked!
I agree, Vegan is a moral obligation !
Thank you for this outstanding interview, so uplifting to hear and feel the energy from a true ethical vegan.
I like this guy! This needs to be seen by millions and billions of people!!!
I distinctly remember -- In 1982 in California, the veg options I ate were 1) Boca Burger and 2) Morningstar Grillers (until I found out they had egg whites), 3) Tofu Scrambler and Tofu Burger mixes. There was rice milk but not any vegan cheese. This is why I laugh when people nowadays say it's too hard to be vegan.
Such a great interview! Two wonderful human beings. Animal agriculture, like war, is so heartbreaking; I can sometimes feel ashamed of my species, ashamed to be human. The heaviness of that feeling is not helpful to me or anyone. This channel is a good antidote Like so many other interviews on this channel, listening to this conversation tonight gives me hope & strength. Thank you both!
Thank you so much! This is so heartwarming and I definitely need that in my life!
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I am the only vegan in my entire family. I just recently shared the information with my nephew. He said that he has friends who are vegan, he understands the immense suffering that animals go through, but he is not willing to stop eating animals.
This is one of the many ways we can gauge the odds animals are up against. That is why I live in a permanent state of trauma.
It's so hard to understand how someone could know what the animals are going through and that it's completely unnecessary but still continue to do it.
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One of these days I would like to contact you. What is the best way?
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Fcbk should ban all animal cruelty from their pages. Fcbk has no problem showing hunter’s smiling with dead animals .😡👿
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Zuckerberg wants to open, or has already opened, an animal concentration camp in Hawaii to produce “high quality chopped up cadavers”, in his vocabulary, “meat”. He is a horrible insensitive, cold human being. His morals and ethics are determined by his tongue.
Awesome interview. What a clear mind! THX JEFF, please keep ‘em coming. They’re addictive :-)
I'll do my best thanks so much for watching and commenting! It's a tremendous amount of work sometimes I don't know if I can keep going but I may as well!
Eugene is wise and smart, he has an 800k+ subscribers channel on UA-cam that teaches physics through animation. His style of explanation is so effective that even a 12-year-old can understand complex concepts like calculus and the theory of relativity.
Now over 1M. Thanks for the compliments.
@@EugeneKhutoryansky Congratulations!!! 🎊🍾
I did when I was 45. So happy I made the switch.
Being vegan is not going to end suffering to animals even if it reduce much of it to millions of animals.
There is no strong reason to be vegan especially whatever we will do, we will cause suffering and pain to animals and life itself based on causing harm to each other by a way to another.
There is only one real solution for ending pains on this planet, but I know that even vegan are not going to accept a such solution.
I like his practice of making statements based on evidence and rational thought.
Eugene is great. We used to leaflet colleges, concerts and events together for years! Then we moved on to PPV Video ads reaching millions worldwide with tons or 1000's of young people targeting saying they were going veg .
PS he can do a Rubric cube barely looking
Wow that's so awesome thanks so much for sharing here! 💚
I wish I would have the privilege of meeting this guy when I lived in Houston.
Well if you ever back sometimes he hangs out at cascabel I think :-)
Ethical vegans deserve utmost respect. Enjoyed this clip. Thanks!
Nice conversation an video guys thanks for sharing.🌱🌠🍀
You're welcome thanks so much for watching and commenting! It really helps :-)
What a real man is!!!
Thanks.
*Going* vegan may be hard, but *being* vegan is easy.
His website is an excellent resource! Wow! This, along with Ed Winters’ new book are must reads for vegans involved in outreach! Thanks for another excellent interview! 👏👏👏
Thanks so much for watching and sharing! Yeah his website is a beast of info
I mean I haven't dug deep but I plan to check it out more for sure!
@@VeganLinkedhis website. Do you have that information?
@@goldmouthfamily1910 there is a link in the description
@@VeganLinked thanks for everything I got it
Excellent interview!
This guy is, obviously, very logically based. I enjoyed listening to his arguments. Great job in delivering your lines of questioning. Harder than it looks, I'm sure.
Yeah especially when I have to drive 18 hours and then be gone for 3 weeks and sleeping who knows where and we did this one kind of late on a whim. :-)
@@VeganLinked That's insane commitment! I commend you.
@@VeganLinked Thank you so much for all your efforts to make this interview happen! I want to tell you that all your hard work to make this channel happen makes a difference in my life. And from reading the comments after many of your videos, it is clear that I am not the only one.
@@katechadwick8880 thanks so much! My whole life I've always wanted to do something meaningful to help others. When I was a kid growing up in LA I thought I would be a cop growing up lol. I went to school for psychology and worked in human services for 15 years. But the bureaucracy and indifferent clients just made it hard to continue. I discovered that people liked my video work around 2004. So I use my media skills to help telling a people like the musicians I knew and at the time restaurants just getting started, and even in human services, and wedding videos, and this seemed like a great way to help people and it was very rewarding. But it still felt very empty at the end of the day. And when I realized in 2016, after being vegan for about 5 years, that no one had a reason to be eating animals at all for health I started getting into nutrition and just did everything I could to get the message out there covering doctors at first. Eventually it grew into these interviews with just random longtime vegans, then I wanted to cover every walk of life type vegans. Now I'm hoping to help people understand the healthiest way to raise their children is on a well planned whole Food vegan diet. So everything's going to be progressing toward that throughout this year and moving forward :-) thanks so much for your encouraging words! I'm doing all I can to make my life meaningful so at the end I can have something I feel good about. Otherwise I would be in a very dreadful place living amongst so many people in a town where there are very unhealthy. It gives much purpose.
@@katechadwick8880 I hope my talk to text made sense I'm trying to drive lol
holy crap this guy's a spitfire !
Clearly very smart. Like all kids that go vegan/vegetarian at a young age.
Happy to see..my favorite physics youtuber
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Mucho respeto to Eugene for spreading awareness on the benefits of a plant-based lifestyle since 1989. Keep up the good work, Eugene! Come check me out for more vegan content if you desire.
I subbed to your madness! :-)
My reason for going vegan nearly 13 yrs ago was because i saw on FB all the truth and evidence from secret under cover film footage of slaughterhouses. Previous to that i went vegetarian when i was 50 living in ignorance of what the animal farming industries were/are, doing to the innocent and defenceless sentient animals for profit and i was horrified and disgusted and did not want or need to fund such horrendous industries for greed, pleasure, habits and conditioning. When we know better we can and should do and be better. I am nearly 69yrs old and feel healthier and fitter now than i ever did before. Its never too early or too late to do the right thing in life.
Thanks so much for sharing!
Great video!
Thank you, Eugene! ❤
You are welcome and thanks.
Hes a hundred percent right that when we are children and find out about how the animal flesh gets from the animal to the plate, the reaction being that we don't want to eat animals.
I had a somewhat similar experience myself as a kid.
This guy is amazing smart articulate succinct
Thanks for the compliment.
Becoming vegan in 2024 is too easy imo. Lots of vegan options.
Thank you.
No animal products for 15 years. How lucky I am to stmble onto this magnificent man and his story. I get so annoyed with willfully ignorant people and this man is a prime example of a man who is expanding his depth of knowledge as a way of life and an excellent choice for interview. Thank you!
Thanks for the compliments.
amazing
Fantastic interview. I’m personally struggling with dating someone who isn’t vegan, and it feels hypocritical as an ethical vegan to watch someone eat meat and enjoy it. But we also have insanely good chemistry.
I guess it’s similar to enjoyment that causes cruelty to animals. I have talked of ethical reasons, and there’s definitely guilt, just not enough to overpower their enjoyment of dead animals.😪
Yeah I can't imagine what that struggle would be like! I don't think I could do it.
Difficult, but just be the example and if they can eventually overcome the cognitive dissonance it may be worth the wait. I’m certain lots of couples have started out that way and ended up both ‘all in’ as healthy ethical vegans. …Just be sure it’s real chemistry and not just physical attraction I guess??!
@@dj.h7424 yeah I just couldn't do it though, I can't imagine being intimate with someone exhaling death and having to watch them consume it and then having to have them not bring it in the house... some might argue well you could convert them, but I don't know that it's necessary to actually have to date them, you could just explain why you're not dating him and maybe that will be sufficient lol Fortunately I'm not in that situation and hopefully never will be. :)
It's so perplexing how people can't realize that they can enjoy eating whole plant foods, and once you're enjoying that it's not like you're going to be missing out on anything after you're full. And then in a couple of weeks it's completely out of your mind unless you're surrounded by people harassing you. But it's even more perplexing when someone has someone else doing all of The cooking and they eat all this vegan food, are they going to be like but I didn't eat an animal so I better go eat one even though I'm completely content and full? I just don't get it... I mean if you're happy and full from eating plants, then you're done! There are probably millions of things I can enjoy eating, but I only need to enjoy eating a few things so it's and easy choice. It would be different if the animal eater was the only one doing the shopping, food prep, and cooking. If I was in that scenario I would just do all the shopping, food prep, and cooking and immerse them in it and insist that's all that comes in the house. If someone loves eating animals more than they love you then they don't love you
I couldn't do it. Kissing someone that just consumed a dead animal would make me want to puke!
... this is the guy who makes some of my favourite physic videos < 3
I came to appreciating Eugene's work from his physics videos. Learning about his vegan philosophy was a fun and nice surprise. It is an even better surprise to hear him talk about it some. Also it was hilarious hearing a deep student (and very successful teacher) of physics be asked about regrets. Regrets are for people who don't buy into causality of reality or people who recognize how reality works, but are bummed out about where they find themselves right now.
Also, I really appreciate that he doesn't advocate for any kind of violence or destruction. Big changes- especially very difficult ones like changing a diet, way of life, and relationship to nature- REQUIRE conscious choice to stick. use of force is a weakness in the psychological realm. If you need to use someone's body and viscera to change their minds- it is because you do not possess an intellectually compelling reason. The "changed" mind by that method will quickly retreat once the outside compulsion goes away.
Eugene can do a Rubric cube in a minute basically with his eyes closed, taking a couple peaks. He should of showed his skills. He is a private pilot too from long ago
Maybe I'll get him to do Rubik's cube on video next time I'm in Texas here soon 💚
Eugene is AMAZING. His physics channel, with his wonderful visualisations, has taught so many people difficult physics concepts.❤
Thanks.
Such an amazing interview, a well spoken guy, I'm surprised I never heard of him before.
I also enjoyed a few articles on his website, about children and about objective morality.
I just the site was more modern to attract more visitors
I am glad you enjoyed the articles. By the way, some people prefer a simple web site design. Thanks!
@@EugeneKhutoryansky simple, but not outdated!
@@baganbobik9312 Things like the layout, lack of pictures, and the color scheme are just preferences that not everyone agrees on.
Eugene rules.
Totally!
That guy is really intelligent, how fast he talks and everything logical. I am sure he has turned many vegan!
Thanks for the compliment.
*Create a Better World and a Better You by........................................Living Vegan*
Thank you, using number instead of spelling worked.
You are mentally stronger than me, but I'm trying one step at a time. I'm down to no dairy, 10% of previous meat consumption. I can't give up seafood. 😊
Aquatic animals are laden with pathogens and bioaccumulate environment toxins in their fat such as dioxins, PCBs, mercury, BMAA, etc. and we decimating aquatic life around the world. I hope you do give up eating all my animals including sea life. And once you do you are likely to be repulsed by the smell of it and even the idea of it. Watch the documentaries Mission Blue and Seaspiracy. Learn how to eat legumes, greens, grains, fruits, veggies, mushrooms, nuts, seeds, herbs and spices and a well-planned variety of each and you won't have room for body parts, organs and secretions as you develop a more sophisticated, healthy, sustainable, nonviolent palate.
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smart man 🙏
I like this guy.
Thanks.
Please, what is his website?
Thanks
It's in the description. Thanks!
His site is awesome! But I wish he upgraded the site's design a little bit to look more modern, so that it would appeal to more people.
Yeah no doubt and that would be easy to do I think. But generally speaking this stuff is time-consuming. I need to drastically change my website. Maybe there's a way he and I can work together on making something somehow...
Thanks for the compliment. By the way, many people prefer a simple web design to a slick "modern" one.
@@EugeneKhutoryansky yeah, I've been thinking about that since these comments, and in web design they say design for mobile first and mobile requires the most simple design. I mean think about one of the most successful examples of this, Google, it's basically just a search field and it's barely even labeled. This reminds me of a friend who used to work for Microsoft pretty high up, Tim O'Brien. He said he used to give classes on database development. One of the assignments was to make an address database. Everyone would always fail he said. They would always add all kinds of fields but he only wanted one lol
@@EugeneKhutoryansky so I just looked on my phone I think for the first time really and I love how simple it is actually and fast loading and precisely designed for what it's intended to be used for. There are ways however to potentially step it up which might help optimize it more and reach more people especially if you can make it engaging where people can comment but that would then require moderation If it worked.
I'm assuming you have meta tags in there and responsive code so Google knows that it is responsive to different viewports. I think if the text was formatted maybe a little more, like broken up into paragraphs more frequently, maybe a different font, more spacing, you could potentially also get away with adding images which would give you more tags and media content for the algorithms to entice search engines. You could even have accompanying video content easily embedded in referenced. Maybe more outgoing links that are reciprocal so you can also increase your ranking, like with my website lol or someone else who has supporting or relevant additional content. And you could just do this in baby steps of course. And you probably could do all of this keeping your site exactly the way you have it. And you probably already know all this so I'm probably just wasting my time lol. But I think these kinds of things may be what the person was hinting around to. Many can be obtained while still maintaining simplicity. Stepping it up a little in design may make it feel more magnetic or pull the viewer in more and like the content was worth investing in enough to present it more impactfully. But I don't really feel like it's necessary :-)
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vegan should be a religion for the purposes of getting vegan food in jail/prison. instead you are getting vegetarian meals if you are lucky and trying to figure out which religion is vegan so you can tell them that. so not an organized religion just a belief that's good enough they have to figure it out and not give animal products in your food.
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on his way to being a tzadik, certainly a mentsh
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I wish more vegans recognized that "exploitation and slavery of animals' includes governmental taxation and regulation of humans. Using force (or threats thereof) against innocent creatures in order to get something from them, or make them do what you want them to do, is immoral. Voting for others to exploit humans is no different than paying for others to exploit animals.
Yea it would be hypocritical if they don't realise this even if it's barely mentioned.
11:47 The Genesis account is actually different in Islam compared to Christianity and Judaism. It is the same in Christianity and Judaism: they literally use the same text, the Hebrew Bible.
The story in Islam still involves Adam and Eve eating fruit from the forbidden tree, which in Islam is called the tree of immortality, instead of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Therefore, the essence of the story is the same, despite some details being different.
@@EugeneKhutoryansky The forbidden food was flesh, not fruit. The Bible was written by 38 men, then "corrected" and edited by the Roman Emperor Constantine's Council of Nicaea Bishops. All reverence for the lives of animals was removed from the Bible to protect the Church's lucrative business of animal sacrifice. See this in the upcoming documentary Christspiracy.
If humans are omnivores
then ALL animals are, bc
all animals have The ability
to eat any and everything -
in reality humans like The
apes and monkeys, we are
frugivores. Frugivores eat
a predominantly fruit diet -
and a few nuts and seeds,
and very minimal animals
and insects. Cats who are
carnivores, they eat fruit too.
mY cats all ate predominately
flesh but were able to eat fruit
and did so once in a blue moon.
Omnivores are bears, dogs and
hogs. Humans are closer to The
apes and monkeys than we are to
the bears, dogs, and hogs who are
The true omnivores. sO Gary Your
of Sky deserves our ears & respect
Both humans and chimpanzees are categorized as omnivores in all biology text books. Chimpanzees on occasion eat meat, and they on occasion engage in cannibalism, in spite of the fact that there is a plentiful supply of food from other sources.
yes@@EugeneKhutoryansky
I took honors classes and
graduated Cum Saude or
whatever. it's a miracle I
still have mY own mind -
those text books are wrong.
text books aren't The Bible
and even that's corrupted.
They're not God's word
The Quran untranslated
@@religion-free The definition of omnivore is an animal that has the ability to eat both meat and plants. Yes, certain animals traditionally classified as herbivores have recently been found to have the ability to eat meat in small quantities. But, this is just a potential argument to reclassify them as omnivores. This is not an argument to reclassify humans and chimps, who clearly have the ability to eat meat in much larger quantities.
by that definition
@@EugeneKhutoryansky
ALL animals are omni.
in reality and as it is
self-evident, humans
and chimps are not
omni, we're Frugivores.
this is why we get heart
disease by eating animal
flesh, and carnivores do
not. neither do The true
omnivores, dogs, hogs,
and bears. there is nO
need to reiterate your
textbooks to me, since
I know what is in them
& can regurgitate them
too. mY point is they're
wrong, just like you, if
you believe them. Gary
is right and you're wrong
@@religion-free The diseases are associated with eating meat in such large quantities. Humans, like chimps, are able to eat meat in small quantities without serious health problems, but not in large quantities. If someone wants to reclassify all animals as omnivores, that would make more sense than denying that humans are omnivores.
Hinduism recommends vegetarianism due to the principle called "Ahimsha" which means:
Live and let live. Practice non-violence. Do not take life of other beings for your own selfish desire.
Hinduism's vegetarianism includes Dairy, but no eggs, fish and meat. Traditional Hindu way of taking care of cows is very humane. Cows get the status of mothers (since they provide milk).
Vast majority of Hindus used to be pure vegetarian. But due to Islamic and Western influences, now about 40-50% Hindus are vegetarian.
FOOD reversed = DOOF
Doo = Doo Doo
Letter F = to Fall, Fail
its Food going in & Doo Doo coming out
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Are you referring to the auto translation?
@@VeganLinked I am referring to reading from script
@@CRITICALHITRU i have no idea wtf you are talking about. I literally met Eugene at a restaurant called Cascabel immediately prior to interviewing him. He had no idea he was going to be interviewed. This was entirely spontaneous. Do you think there is a teleprompter in the room? If so, that is a first for sure and completely out of left field.
He is amazing, but dead wrong about plants having feelings and consciousness. He is too closed off to understanding that plant consciousness is much higher than human or animal consciousness and he has this arrogance of thinking he knows what is conscious and what is not. Those of us who have worked with plant medicine know that plants just like all life on this earth has an underlying consciousness and his overly left brained analytical thinking is limiting him. He seems like someone who would explain love using a quadratic formula. He and many fellow vegans need to get in touch with their right brain and emotions if they want to go deeper as a spiritual being
It's great to have different types of vegans with different types of voices reaching different types of people. Plants lack the physiological and behavioral characteristics of sentience. But at the end of the day even if someone thinks plants have feelings it still makes sense to only eat plants since eating animals would require astronomically more plants to be killed. :-)
@@VeganLinked I am vegan, so I agree to eating only plants but I approach it from a spiritual perspective. I’m not one of those that say “Plants feel pain.” I say most vegans are ignorant about plants and just say stuff about insentience to try to win arguments with no real experiential knowledge about plants. Plants are a much higher consciousness than human and animal consciousness because they are purely selfless beings and still and always in a state of meditation and peace which is why it is beneficial for us to consume them. Plants are teachers like sages and saints. In fact plants guide humans and animals to eat them. The tree is a symbol of enlightenment as from examples of many who have sat under a tree in meditation. It is an enlightening experience. Try drinking celery juice or eating more pure or raw plant food and you will see what I am talking about. Plants are freely giving of their fruit and leaves etc. so this is a selfless “agape” love that humans know nothing about. Even the vegans today are stuck on fighting about issues about “It requires more plants to feed animals than eating it ourselves.” Yes we vegans already know that and some of us need to move on. We can only learn higher consciousness through plants and through consuming them and understanding what they have to teach us. Notice vegan reactions to what I am saying from a spiritual angle- they tend to ridicule it in the same immature way that meat eaters ridicule vegans, without exploring it on their own to find out the truth. The vegans who debate and argue with meat eaters are energetically not different from each other- they are on opposite ends of the same vibrational spectrum- fighting with each other. Because the vegan ego thinks it’s making a difference or doing something. There is a higher plan and all is being orchestrated by the higher power. We have to transcend the battlefield entirely and see a completely new world.
@@chubbatheBOSS I don't really get into spirituality or metaphysics or things so far beyond the grasp of perception. I mean a rock doesn't move but it's not conscious. Plants do not evidence the ability of consciousness, there is no right and wrong or internal thinking.
@@chubbatheBOSS you seem to be over generalizing about vegans a lot too. There's a lot of vegans who think the way you do. Great that we have different approaches. Vegans come from all walks of life! Anyone can be vegan :-)
Plants have no central nervous system and therefore cannot feel pain. We have to eat to live but we do not need to consume the dead bodies or their secretions to survive and be healthy. Plants respond to stimuli such as sunlight and air and need water and humans need plants to live and survive where as we can live healthy lives without consuming the dead flesh of sentient beings. The farming of animals for consumption is abusive cruel and immoral and there is no need for it in this civilised modern world.
The statistics I read said that 10% of self-identified liberals are vegetarian and 5% of self-identified liberals are vegan (in the US).
For conservatives, only 2% are, combined, vegetarian or vegan.
I think the 10% and 5% figures are way too high. The issue with surveys is that often people don’t understand what they are being asked. In any case, the important point is that conservative vegans exist. Though, they are often afraid to mention that they are conservative, for fear of the backlash from other vegans.
I believe the statstics are correct. Right wingers have made a big issue out of promoting pseudo-science during Covid, and we watched them die in large numbers even after the vaccines were invented, especially right wing radio hosts. Their attitudes toward nutritional research is the same; they promote low carb and carnivore diets despite the research showing the harm from low carb diets based on high animal protein intake. Interestingly enough, low carb diets that use plant-based sources of nutrition do not show the high increase of death from all-cause mortality. Conservatives are also climate change denialists. ==GOP candidates during the first Republican debate argued over climate change, with Vivek Ramaswamy calling the agenda over the issue a hoax.“I’m the only candidate on stage who isn’t bought and paid for, so I can say this - the climate change agenda is a hoax,” he said.==
You see a consistent patter hear of destroying the earth, destroying the health of humans, and destroying animals in conservative philosophical trends. @@EugeneKhutoryansky
I firmly believe unethical people cannot be healthy, at least not for long. And so, ethical and health reasons are somewhat intertwined or inevitably become so, sooner or later.
However, emotional activism has always put me off, whatever the cause defended may be. If you know you're right, you should try and keep your cool no matter what. Kicking trees to prove they have no feelings? Come on, it's so ugly and unethical...
Have been vegetarian for 30+ years now and can see how my body is leading me slowly but surely towards becoming a vegan, that is, not only because I keep being conscious about what I eat and how it came to 'land' on my plate but also naturally so- you just stop liking some things- e.g. egg whites, then egg yolks, then stringy cheese, etc. etc.
The funny thing is, at first I had to fight off negative attitude from meat-eaters only to come to a point where my fellow vegans are attacking me for being part of hurting the animals, ha-hah. No problem. This time I am going as slow as needed and the main reason not to rush it is not to find myself in an "I- am- no- longer- vegan- and- here- is -why" situation. It seems really embarrasing, honestly. And so, I'd rather not go cold turkey. "Slow and steady wins the race."
It's also fascinating how strict vegetarianism (for this is what veganism is, after all) has grown and now offers such a variety of choices- raw/ cooked, keto/Atkins/ herbivorian/ fruitarian/ WFPB... you name it. And lots of scientific evidence, too. AND lots of ready- available plant food! Just wonderful.🍎
I don't know why you would go slow, it can't be harder for you than it is for the animal.
Hopefully you won't take my comment as me kicking trees, after all you can't even see me and 80% of communication is nonverbal. When someone is vegetarian I always show them this 5-minute video. Maybe you've seen it and if you have I would be blown away if you're still consuming dairy.
ua-cam.com/video/UcN7SGGoCNI/v-deo.htmlsi=pdM1ytBSBa8vBU3t
Also vegan is not strict vegetarian, strict vegetarian is pre-vegan. Vegan is the beginning and end of vegetarianism. Vegetarian is not based on ethics because it's still exploits animals and results in the very harm that veganism is seeking to avoid. Veganism is a philosophy, vegetarianism is a diet. People might think they are doing it for ethical reasons, but they're wrong. And I'm not being emotional I'm just being straight. And if you think I'm being emotional that might be you more than it is me. Thanks so much for watching and commenting! It sounds like you're moving in the right direction! And that is awesome! I hope you will watch Dairy is Scary it's only 5 minutes, And it has 6 and 1/2 million views for a reason :-) 💚 Best wishes in your endeavors and health!
@@VeganLinked Hi. Thanks for the answer. I'd like to clarify some points here:
1) I'm not implying that you personally are kicking trees, but I saw it years ago on youtube done by one of the most famous vegan activists and it was sooo rude and showed such utter misunderstanding and lack of respect for nature... It also had the opposite effect and just made me think that vegans are aggressive cuckoos and so I did not want to be part of them at all. And I'm not alone in it, if you want me to be straight in turn:). So pls let those over-eager plant-cruel veganists find some better way to shock people into animal suffering realization.
2) I believe vegans should learn not to make enemies of their friends 'cause that only prevents them from reaching their ultimate goal. And, frankly speaking, veganism is not the 'be all and end all' of ethical behavior. There are much higher levels even in terms of diet.
3) Vegetarianism IS a philosophy and that is how it actually got started and that is where veganism sprang into existence at some point in history. E.g. L.Tolstoy and R. Steiner were vegetarians for purely ethical reasons some 100 years before the first vegans were even born, not to mention the different ancient Indian religious cults whose followers adhere to vegetarianism or the famous ancient Greek philosophers Plato and Socrates... In the 20th century, someone simply came up with the idea to combine the first and last parts of the word and -voila!-invented the term 'vegan/ism'. That is all. Yet Pythagoras was a strict vegetarian ( I do insists on that old term still untainted by modern activist aggression:)), i.e.100% plant-based, for purely ethical and philosophical reasons and so was Lao-Tze (the founder of Daosism) way back in time.
And, while it is true that the world has generally moved beyond the vegetarian point of thinking, I still believe that a slow and steady approach like mine would help many more animals not to suffer for years on end unlike quite a few veganists who relapse (due to enthusiastically overestimating their abilities in the first place) abruptly straight into flesh-eating. I do not think my meagre 100g of some dairy a week or an egg once in a while will be the root cause of animal slaughter &suffering.
Also, a famous vegan doctor whom I really like and whom you once interviewed still ate oysters and claimed that they are not really that sensitive [?!?]. Well, I can't agree and would rather stick to my ethical vegetarianism for as long as it takes to cross the line of no- return of 100% plant eating. Thank God, I am almost there.
Now, even if you block me (like it happened in the past:)), I'd still watch your channel and like it, and support veganism among friends and strangers alike because that is for me simply the right step to go further. Yet, I will not let any veganists lecture me on ethics. Frankly speaking, the longest-standing and most influential ethical vegans rarely do so. They lead by example, not by preaching the obvious to people who know it but do not want to or cannot change for some other reasons they might have. If you press them hard, the 3rd law of Newton slaps back in full force. And there you have carnivores or ketovores.
Hope all that makes sense to you.🙂
@@VeganLinkedhi, I’ve been extremely sick for a very long with multiple chronic illnesses & I have massive amts. of inflammation & pain, etc. etc. Many people in the same boat as me keep say things like.. you need to eat animal protein to heal & the brain needs fat etc. I really want to stop eating dead flesh but it’s so hard for me. Between having a major food addiction & then the whole rest of the family not wanting to, ugh. Plus I feel like my food options are limited. 😓 Then there’s topic that Eugene didn’t bring up & I would love to ask him about & that’s things like oxalates, lectins, nightshades etc. which from what I’ve learned cause inflammation & kidney stones. I need to avoid gluten because it affects me horribly. Maybe if I ever heal some of the things I’m dealing with I’ll be able to handle the things I’ve mentioned. I’m Italian & need to eat bread & pasta without paying for it. 😅😕 Sorry for the rambling. Maybe you could shed some light on some of this for me.
@@karenc.7728 The people who say that oxalates and lectins are a problem aren't people who have ever been on a whole Food plant-based diet. They are just standard American diet or carnivore or keto trying to avoid this option. They spin the circle of excuses and that's one of them. I have interviews with nephrologists that are vegan so obviously if they believe in it oxalates are not a problem. I have an interview with a gastroenterologist so obviously lectins are not a problem. Things like this might be an issue if you didn't know how to prepare your food properly, like if you just ate dry beans all the time which would be really weird. Your body actually produces oxalates so being scared of them is being like being scared of yourself. I don't know if Eugene is into nutrition science as much as he is philosophy. But maybe if you come through his website you can find a Q&a on that topic if he is. Clearly vegans aren't having a problem with oxalates or lectins. There are many on my channel who have been vegan for many many many many decades even their entire life. They have no nutritional deficiencies, no medications, no diseases, no evidence that oxalates are a problem. Even the scientific literature makes it clear that a well-planned whole food plant-based vegan diet is healthy and appropriate for every stage of life and protective against many chronic diseases and all cause mortality. Now having said all that, it may be hard to transition into this way of eating because there is a learning and acclimation curve. It was easy for me because I didn't have any type of illness that would get in the way of me eating more plant foods. There are some pre-existing conditions that can make it more challenging like Crohn's for example. But that's not the fault of a plant-based diet that's because the person got sick before they started this way of eating. The best thing may be to consult with a nutritionist, dietitian, or physician that practice is lifestyle medicine.
3:27 - Him arguing that there's never been an excuse for eating meat betrays a lack of rationality, lack of care for fellow humans, and also reveals an apathy toward understanding human psychology and the reasons we do the things we do. It's very cynical and based on emotion. That said, his parents forcing him to eat meat was wrong. I think we're all products of our environments, and I can understand how his past experiences would shape how he is now.
I understand where he's coming from and don't think he's a bad guy, but frankly he's pretty insufferable. If you want to really persuade someone to veganism, don't be like this guy. It's a moral preference, not a moral obligation. If someone really thinks eating a Happy Meal is just as morally bad as eating the carcass of a human child, I don't think there's any rational argument I can make that would convince them how wrong and psychopathic their view is. I have empathy for them though, because living life viewing the world in such a way must be horrible. I'm a really sensitive guy, if I thought eating a cheeseburger was as bad as the Holocaust my ancestors fleed to America to escape from I don't think I could continue living in this world. Still, even if I thought meat-eating were that bad, I would not think meat-eaters were. Take it from a meat-eater who has a friend who is a passionate vegan: a lot of vegans miss out on making an impact on someone's point of view because they cling to notions of moral blame and judgment of others they know nothing about.
Once you realize that animals are sentient beings who can think and feel and suffer just like humans, and you are aware of what happens to them in the food industry, you are FROM THAT POINT ON culpable for your actions if you continue to participate in their suffering. You are complicit and accountable from that point on. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for your own actions. Be a decent human being and own up to it and then CHANGE.
Many of us don't believe that humans are superior to other animals, or that their suffering is important than ours.
I think you meant less important right?
I think it's a moral obligation. Eating animals creates the most violent jobs, the most atrocious living circumstances for sentient beings, results in concentrated animal feeding operations that are toxic to surrounding communities, supports an industry that causes deforestation, desertification, aquatic dead zones, zoonotic diseases, antibiotic resistant bacteria, excessively uses resources while tainting resources, ultimately perpetuates a violent culture, is gravely unsustainable as it uses 80% of agricultural land while resulting in only 20% of global feed intake, is the biggest contributor to anthropogenic global warming and species extinction, causes food insecurities, increases risk for chronic disease and all cause mortality, like everything about eating animals is wrong and invasive to all life on this planet. So yeah once you realize how bad eating animals is on every level to others and the environment and so on it definitely becomes a moral obligation. And that's what veganism is all about I think
Oh he eats fish & dairy. Why is he so thick?
He said he stopped eating fish and dairy in 2000. Im thick and vegan. Depends on what we eat. Theirs lots of high fat vegan food.
Vegan is a philosophy not a weight loss program. But if you eat whole plant foods like I do it's the easiest way to effortlessly obtain and maintain your perfect weight like I do. It just happens to be that the healthiest foods are whole plant foods such as legumes, greens, grains, fruits, veggies, mushrooms, nuts, seeds, herbs and spices and a variety of each And these are the most vegan things to eat because they require the least amount of resources and therefore our least invasive to the wildlife. But if somebody wants to eat more processed as long as they're not consuming body parts, organs and secretions then that way of eating would be probably fine as a vegan. It may not be as healthy though. Many things contribute to our weight such as our activity, our genetics, our diet, stress, lack of sleep, drinking alcohol, drinking sodas, etc. None of this has anything to do with not wanting to needlessly hurt animals. Try to stay focused on what's up instead of conjuring up nonsense to feel good about eating animals which contributes to the most violent jobs, the most abusive situations for animals, and industry that causes deforestation, desertification, concentrated animal feeding operations that result in toxic communities, aquatic dead zones, zoonotic diseases, antibiotic resistant bacteria, and eating animals increases your risk for chronic disease and all cause mortality, everything about eating animals is just dumb, deadly and destructive. It doesn't matter what a person looks like, anybody can be vegan no matter what they look like.
By the way I have hundreds of vegans on my channel, most are trim and fit, Even bodybuilders, power lifters, strongman, CrossFit, etc vegan just makes it easier to be better at what you're doing.
Lastly there's different kinds of fat, there's subcutaneous and visceral for example. When I quit eating animals my visceral fat, which is the most dangerous, vanished. A vegan that is overweight with the same BMI as a non-vegan that's overweight will likely be healthier than a non-vegan. It's more likely the non-vegan will have cardiometabolic disease developing from their visceral fat.
And he hasn't consumed to meat since 1989.