Landing Gear OFF POSITION - Why is it there - And how to use it with your joystick | Real 737 Pilot

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  • @user-po7xi9uw3j
    @user-po7xi9uw3j 7 місяців тому +10

    Man I absolutely LOVE these little tutorials you're making. Keep them coming bro!

  • @strikingscorp4659
    @strikingscorp4659 7 місяців тому +3

    I was wondering why the 737 needed an off position, this video was very well time for sure. Many thanks Emi 🙌

  • @IMG343
    @IMG343 7 місяців тому +4

    Getting ready to go do an initial on the NG and the PMDG sim and your videos have been absolutely invaluable. Thank you!!!

    • @A330Driver
      @A330Driver  7 місяців тому

      Enjoy, you'll love it!

  • @hanskrohn
    @hanskrohn 7 місяців тому +3

    Thanks! Very useful tip on the HC throttle button programing!

  • @organicinsanity2534
    @organicinsanity2534 3 місяці тому

    Super trick with the key binding for landing gear. I use a Logitech extreme 3d pro as yoke and have a separate throttle but use my logitechs little baby throttle as my landing gear up and down with just a large dead zone . Causing me to have to set the gear in the middle to get it to stop sending commands. I forget it sometimes and I think I’ll change my settings now and see how it works

  • @saitekhero
    @saitekhero 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for all your videos, I always learn something new, usually lots of things!
    I use a mixture of controller profiles within MSFS and aircraft profiles in the payware version of FSUIPC7. Although FSUIPC isn't required, the paid for version offers much flexibility in button and switch assignments, including the gear lever position. Anyone choosing this method (or mixture of methods) should ensure they delete conflicting assignments in either MSFS controller settings or the aircraft specific FSUIPC menu.
    I am aware that some people don't like FSUIPC, and that that there are competing products, so please don't hate on me!

    • @A330Driver
      @A330Driver  7 місяців тому +1

      I just never understood why you'd need to use FSUIPC when the sim can do it all for you. Provided you don't use complex third party hardwares like physical MCPs, overheads, etc. but just "normal" joysticks like the Honeycombs, Thrustmasters, etc. I just really don't see the advantage.
      Back in the days of FSX and P3D I was a huge fan of FSUIPC, but with MSFS I quickly dropped it.

  • @737simviator
    @737simviator 7 місяців тому +2

    Another great and informative video to add to our 737 knowledge. Thank you Captain

  • @nicozika
    @nicozika 7 місяців тому

    thanks a lot... the button assignment tip was really helpful

  • @jrod_pilot_miami
    @jrod_pilot_miami 7 місяців тому

    Wow, what a useful video! I have been struggling with this on my honeycomb bravo and had to just unbound the buttons and manually move the lever up and off with my mouse. I'm going to try this one today! Thank you!

  • @Maveriqxs
    @Maveriqxs 7 місяців тому +2

    I don't believe this works with the thrustmaster TCA yoke as the gear lever is only one button (18), and not two like the honeycomb is, so putting on release doesn't really work and ends up screwing the yoke's button logic.

  • @baomao7243
    @baomao7243 7 місяців тому

    I have a Virpil VPC Control panel (#2) and it has a landing gear up/down/off lever.
    So i always wondered about “off.” Thank you. 👍

  • @gregoryl.4872
    @gregoryl.4872 7 місяців тому

    And yet another curiosity solved. Thanks.

  • @bwlucas
    @bwlucas 7 місяців тому

    In order to make my Boeing yoke work correctly with the landing gear, I had to use vjoy and joystick gremlin to reverse the signal as on the yoke the up/down is the same button. Took me awhile to find this solution someone posted on the PMDG forums.

  • @Huntingbigfish38
    @Huntingbigfish38 7 місяців тому

    Awesome thanks I've tried a few fixes never got it to work until now.

  • @johns8364
    @johns8364 7 місяців тому

    I fly for a virtual airline, and they use SmartCARS to track our flights. This works fine in the simulator, but every workaround I've tried with the Thrustmaster Boeing yoke will cause your company PIREPs to state that you raised the landing gear over and over again throughout the flight, or lowered them repeatedly on approach because it's a continuous signal that confuses smartCARS. I settled on removing the gear switch from the key map and using the G key or mouse.

    • @A330Driver
      @A330Driver  7 місяців тому

      Have you sent TFDI a report about that? It sure enough sounds like something they should be able to solve.

  • @ysteineker7001
    @ysteineker7001 7 місяців тому

    When you select gear down, a split second of gear up pressure is initiated - this will lift the gear weight off the mechanical up locks, and the locks will move free of weight.
    I am not sure if it is manual, but if a main gear is stuck, a real pilot may try this trick. Select gear up (to get weight off locks) push negative G, then gear down with positive G.

  • @tomstravels520
    @tomstravels520 7 місяців тому +2

    This is why I wish MSFS would let you create separate joystick profiles for each aircraft and then assign them to those aircraft like in XPlane so you don't have to manually switch around all the time. It's preloaded when you select the aircraft. I have just one joystick profile for airliners which I manage to make work for both Boeing and Airbus (mostly).
    Your technique to get the lever to work I believe would also work with the Airbus quadrant gear switch and it works the same, but if I save it then when flying there Fenix it will be inverted. I got fed up of loading a 737 then forgetting to switch to the 737 setup ages ago. For now I lift the switch to gear retract then when gear is retracted, pause the sim, move the switch down then unpause and click the gear lever to go to off position.

    • @A330Driver
      @A330Driver  7 місяців тому

      I’m also using a single profile that I use for all airliners on my bravo throttle. Works fine with Fenix, PMDG and all others so far.

    • @tomstravels520
      @tomstravels520 7 місяців тому

      @@A330Driver So if you have switched the up and down for the 737 and using the same profile for it how does it not affect the Fenix?

  • @MikeGolf993
    @MikeGolf993 7 місяців тому

    I think this is similar to the A2A Comanche. It has that OFF position in the landing gear switch. I think when it's selected, the actual engine that raises and lowers the landing gear gets turned off, saving some energy for other systems in the plane. If you keep it in the UP position it stills energized. When it is off you can actually lower the landing gear manually with the emergency landing gear leveller.

    • @akarhu
      @akarhu 7 місяців тому +1

      In Comanche, when the landing gear reaches its up or down position, the gear motor is turned off by respective limit switches. You save no energy whatsoever or turn the motor off by selecting the off position. However, if you wanted to lower the gear manually while the electrical gear system was still operative, you'd need to use the off position, as moving the gear out of its fully retracted position would result in the up limit switch to re-energize the gear motor for retraction.
      In 737, even with the gear lever left in up position, the landing gear is still mechanically up-locked (that is, it would not fall out should the hydraulic system fail). Selecting the gear lever off simply de-pressurizes the system.

    • @MikeGolf993
      @MikeGolf993 7 місяців тому

      @@akarhu Interesting. Then I missunderstood the manual, thanks for your explanation :)

  • @SmokiesDen
    @SmokiesDen 7 місяців тому

    Now that's a nice nugget.

  • @terex451
    @terex451 7 місяців тому +1

    Hi Emanuel any news for the efb on marketplace?

  • @sushiat
    @sushiat 7 місяців тому

    I don't know why they can't just code the logic similar to the inibuilds a310, no inverting of commands needed, just works on default. I mean the pmdg ignores the constant up if you never touch it at all, they simply would need to implement a shortish delay after which they ignore the constant up again.

  • @Jacobes16
    @Jacobes16 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for the video, how do we get this working properly using the TCA Boeing gear switch since it’s technically only one button? Would be nice if we had an in sim resolution to binding the fuel switches, any ideas on that? Can’t use Spad or anything like that on Xbox.

    • @A330Driver
      @A330Driver  7 місяців тому

      Should be doable by assigning one command for "on press" and one for "on release" of the button.

  • @Groveish
    @Groveish 8 місяців тому

    Why don't general aviation aircraft like the Baron have an off position? I doubt they're automated like the 787. Do they work with electrical power instead of hydraulic pressure?

    • @holobolo1661
      @holobolo1661 7 місяців тому

      Yes, electric. GA planes generally don't have a hydraulics system.

  • @patpilot1675
    @patpilot1675 7 місяців тому +9

    Will you test the A320 Neo from inibuilds

    • @A330Driver
      @A330Driver  7 місяців тому +4

      Yes, when I’m back from my layover, probably Monday or Tuesday.

    • @terex451
      @terex451 7 місяців тому

      How I get the new version?

    • @se-kmg355
      @se-kmg355 7 місяців тому

      @@terex451 You either have to sign up for the beta or wait for the FS update.

    • @zk9058
      @zk9058 7 місяців тому

      @@terex451 if you are signed up for the MSFS beta channel, you should automatically receive it as part of the latest beta release of SU14. If you are not signed up for the beta channel, the release candidate of SU14 is scheduled to release on Dec 5.

    • @terex451
      @terex451 7 місяців тому

      ​@@zk9058ah thx

  • @30DegreesBank
    @30DegreesBank 7 місяців тому

    I was curious to see if your Flaps will extend after you went into the menu of the simulator. I have this issue with every aircraft - stationary or in flight - whenever I hit ESC to access the menu, after I return to the flight deck, the flaps begin extending to the maximum and I need to immediately recycle the switch in my joystick to counter that. Any ideas? Thanks!

    • @se-kmg355
      @se-kmg355 7 місяців тому

      I have noticed the same bug but with my throttles, they would always go into idle when leaving the menu. Not sure what causes it.

    • @A330Driver
      @A330Driver  7 місяців тому +1

      It's related to your hardware, when you exit a menu the sim seems to reapply any current axis input. So if you've got a flap or a throttle axis in a position that doesn't match what you should have you end up getting this.

    • @30DegreesBank
      @30DegreesBank 7 місяців тому

      @@A330Driver good idea! I will recheck all assigned axises and maybe fox this. Thanks a lot!

  • @PrimaryFlightDisruptor
    @PrimaryFlightDisruptor 7 місяців тому

    Mouse profile blyad 😂 Great stuff as always

    • @A330Driver
      @A330Driver  7 місяців тому +1

      haha, ran out of good names so I went creative 😂😂😂

  • @Edui_07
    @Edui_07 7 місяців тому

    When are you testing the new ini A320neo?

    • @A330Driver
      @A330Driver  7 місяців тому +1

      When I’m back from my layover, probably Monday or Tuesday.