i only saw this person for the first time ina movie called "DIG" when he was a man and i thought he was amazing . the things he said made so much sense - and i didnt know he was changing
A dream with Throbbing Gristle. We're driving along in a creame coloured van and there's this loud noise, pop!, a front tyre blows out and so we pull the van to the side of the road, it's a lovely country roadside, lush grass, and we all get out of the van, (sound of van doors opening) Gen hops out and he says something like "Oh, now what? Well we certainly aren't going anywhere till we get a change for this tyre" and then we all get back into the van and continue on our way, no hard feelings.
That's the second time I've heard that Genesis was the last person to speak to Ian. The first time was when I read an interview with Genesis a few years ago.
Being a big fan of Throbbing Gristle. I’m glad I saw all the members at Coachella 2009. It felt like seeing God, it sounds exaggerated for being a fan. RIP Genesis and Sleazy, Thanks to take me to the deep of music.
Godfather of Industrial, still kicking it and attracting predictably ignorant comments from youtube jaybirds. Which is just the way he always liked it. A ferocious artist and the real deal.
Kudos for your kudos. And was it not a TG album entitled 'The Majik Sacrifice'? I recall a live record with a b&w photo on the front (then again, how many live TG albums DIDN'T have a b&w pic? LOL) Forgive my misspelling, I just recall it being 'different' is all - yet I was tuned into it the moment I saw it. I for one am definately with the 'aspect' always. :) Now for a little Gysin. Cheers!
Woe to see the soft inside of post response with text aside the focus here as cuts appear the point of blah blah -isms, Cheers! (Create your own magic the fabric of Reality is becoming frayed and threadbare as hyper-media coverage is creating ripples in which we are all enveloped.) Thanks G.P.O.
I love Genesis because s/he is honest; I mean, saying what s/he actually experiences, personally; including all private sensory errors and not apologizing. S/he says exactly what s/he thinks and means. S/he is, strangely to a lot of people I'm sure, a real person.' And for that I say thank you to GPO. I am sincerely glad that Mr. Curtis talked you into not killing yourself, Hell Is Invisible... is enough of a contribution, and he was completely right. I wish he was still with us.
some folks are destined (doomed?) to live near the hurricanes eye-tis the nature of MAGICK-nice to see how its done. A role model, up there with MOORE MORRISON SPARE....
I was heavily into PTV in the 80's and Gen came over like a really knowledgeable, musical and cultural terrorist, for want of a better word kind of 'macho'. This whole gender transformation, 'pandrogeny' is difficult to equate with that character I saw on stage many times. He's still a very interesting character and the PTV stuff of the last few years is excellent.
@meinLiebsterFeind I totally agree. S/he is prone to name dropping and the odd exagerrated claim (we all are) but s/he has done more than enough in her/his own right anyway without VU/Ian Curtis/Burroughs,connections, etc. GPO was also part of the birth of Acid House, no 'one' created it, it was and is a group dynamic. Just be proud of yourself GPO! We are!
Um, question: I first saw Genesis in the documentary Dig, I loved him. Is this... somewhat alternate gender presentation before or after that? Before? Thanks.
if i was gonna be nasty i'd say gen's song 'weeping' sent curtis over the edge:but i won't ,maybe gen should've played him 'happy talk' or something :-)
He hasn't had a sex change per se - it's more a body modification project to do with pandrogeny. Last I heard he still had all his male bits but has obviously had quite a bit of cosmetic surgery as well as the implants. You can read about it on his website if you're interested
actually shes lying about talking to ian over the phone because peter hook(bass player for joy division) recently said in an interview that ian didn't have a phone
Gen brought 'experimental' out of the closet, and made it mainstream with TG. He bridged Punk Rock and New Wave and took it down the low road as opposed to the high whilst at the fork in the road in the late 70's. If anyone told me I'd be interested in John Cage while listeing to 10 Pole Tudor, I'd call them crazy! But thanks to TG, I also got educated. What's old is new again with Gen. Jayne County eat your heart out!
Dude. Have we been listening to the same band?!!! Look at the number of big current groups who state J D as a major influence. Check out the film that was released a year or so ago. Mediocre- I think not.
Re;pressgangers.Hmm! P-orridge and TG were clearly influenced from art movements such as Dada,fluxus and Burroughs cut up method, indeed, so were coum transmissions, but give them some credit as applying such aesthietics to music had never been done in such a way before, if at all. There really is no such thing as originality anyway, everything has its influences. But i must admit that G p-o is somewhat deluded about his own importance.
Why is everybody arguing about who did what first!? We are still talking about these subjects because of a video of Genesis on you tube... You tube wasn't the first vehicle for short film.. Blah Blah Blah. Anyone here actually being in thee majickal aspect or are we creating an anti-rock star? Fuck who was 1st! I learned about sigils from him, cut-up from burroughs, thoth from crowley, alien 'shrooms from Mc Kenna- G.O.I and be. What is this neo-pre-post-ism-ism-ism Stick it- Sheesh! Read a book
@MakkaPakka666 Yeah..the whole body language of that joker is cliché city galore. he belongs in the Kukelheim museum though,as an endangered species. Porridge was on the defence for quite another thing though, he was still unsure to take the same amount of botox in the lower lip,,,,;{}
that's not correct either. He's been doing his ongoing gender thing for a number of years as money permits and his wife only died about a year ago. My understanding is that they were _both_ having surgery done to create a pandrogenous individual - they were both trying to look like each other
i met her in person and saw a group photo with cosey and i asked her who that was, she said it was a random person they included in the photo shoot to make it look like there were more memberships the band, years later i read coseys book and put 2 and 2 together.
Hmmmm,,,,. Sorry. TG is an innovative piece. I love the exploration of the outer reaches of what we think is music. But, I gotta say that when I see "Genesis" I see a lost poser. There is not much difference between him/her then a a circus clown.
i only saw this person for the first time ina movie called "DIG" when he was a man and i thought he was amazing . the things he said made so much sense - and i didnt know he was changing
i really respect people like genesis because they don't mind doing interviews. They are not stuck up or scared what people think of them.
"You never really know people - until you meet them ".
He's really perfected that chav, medicated auntie look.
RIP Genesis
REST IN POWER.
wow
GPO is so amazing
!
respect
^_^
5:08 onwards....powerful stuff, i love how gripped the interviewer is
A dream with Throbbing Gristle. We're driving along in a creame coloured van and there's this loud noise, pop!, a front tyre blows out and so we pull the van to the side of the road, it's a lovely country roadside, lush grass, and we all get out of the van, (sound of van doors opening) Gen hops out and he says something like "Oh, now what? Well we certainly aren't going anywhere till we get a change for this tyre" and then we all get back into the van and continue on our way, no hard feelings.
Thanks for this upload, krittg. Excellent quality/content.
beautiful
That's the second time I've heard that Genesis was the last person to speak to Ian. The first time was when I read an interview with Genesis a few years ago.
so uplifting
Being a big fan of Throbbing Gristle. I’m glad I saw all the members at Coachella 2009. It felt like seeing God, it sounds exaggerated for being a fan. RIP Genesis and Sleazy, Thanks to take me to the deep of music.
Wtf i was at Coachella 2009 and missed them I’m so sad rn
Godfather of Industrial, still kicking it and attracting predictably ignorant comments from youtube jaybirds. Which is just the way he always liked it. A ferocious artist and the real deal.
Great theme music.
I didnt know he was a pal of Ian Curtis'. That gives me a new perspective on Genesis' ideas.
Kudos for your kudos. And was it not a TG album entitled 'The Majik Sacrifice'? I recall a live record with a b&w photo on the front (then again, how many live TG albums DIDN'T have a b&w pic? LOL)
Forgive my misspelling, I just recall it being 'different' is all - yet I was tuned into it the moment I saw it. I for one am definately with the 'aspect' always. :)
Now for a little Gysin. Cheers!
wrong click,sorry DS. One of the most informed comments i have read. kudos
S/He gives Man-chest-her a totally new meaning.
Woe to see the soft inside of post response with text aside the focus here as cuts appear the point of blah blah -isms, Cheers! (Create your own magic the fabric of Reality is becoming frayed and threadbare as hyper-media coverage is creating ripples in which we are all enveloped.) Thanks G.P.O.
Genesis is a very very smart musician and dare I say, sexy?!
❤Gen ❤Jaye
about Ian that was crazy
I love Genesis because s/he is honest; I mean, saying what s/he actually experiences, personally; including all private sensory errors and not apologizing. S/he says exactly what s/he thinks and means. S/he is, strangely to a lot of people I'm sure, a real person.'
And for that I say thank you to GPO.
I am sincerely glad that Mr. Curtis talked you into not killing yourself, Hell Is Invisible... is enough of a contribution, and he was completely right.
I wish he was still with us.
"s/he." *LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
Just say They...you'll be fine.
Joanna Lumley is really deep these days
😂
some folks are destined (doomed?) to live near the hurricanes eye-tis the nature of MAGICK-nice to see how its done. A role model, up there with MOORE MORRISON SPARE....
I think that the interviewer is Ian Svenonius of the band make up from D.C.
I was heavily into PTV in the 80's and Gen came over like a really knowledgeable, musical and cultural terrorist, for want of a better word kind of 'macho'. This whole gender transformation, 'pandrogeny' is difficult to equate with that character I saw on stage many times. He's still a very interesting character and the PTV stuff of the last few years is excellent.
@meinLiebsterFeind I totally agree. S/he is prone to name dropping and the odd exagerrated claim (we all are) but s/he has done more than enough in her/his own right anyway without VU/Ian Curtis/Burroughs,connections, etc. GPO was also part of the birth of Acid House, no 'one' created it, it was and is a group dynamic. Just be proud of yourself GPO! We are!
Um, question: I first saw Genesis in the documentary Dig, I loved him. Is this... somewhat alternate gender presentation before or after that? Before? Thanks.
it was called Thee Psychick Sacrifice.
Ian Curtis RIP. it's nice that Genesis actually cared about Ian. Joy Div were the greatest band of all time
)y
@Jake Lister especially considering Ian Curtis didn't live or die in Manchester
@crackropovic Ian got Geneis' number?!? Lucky Ian!
when is this?
@crackropovic Ian called Genesis
Doh! I pressed 'like' by mistake!
But see the comments below about Hooky saying Curtis didn't have a phone!
This interview is my 17-year-old self's wet dream.
if i was gonna be nasty i'd say gen's song 'weeping' sent curtis over the edge:but i won't ,maybe gen should've played him 'happy talk' or something :-)
He hasn't had a sex change per se - it's more a body modification project to do with pandrogeny. Last I heard he still had all his male bits but has obviously had quite a bit of cosmetic surgery as well as the implants. You can read about it on his website if you're interested
Genesis P-Orridge's pandrogyne is evidence of the New Aeon. Alister Crowley's "tendency to become...epicence".
Okay, if he didn't then who did? It wasn't Genesis P-Orridge who founded "Industrial Records" in the mid seventies?
@thirdshift47 ....nearly choked reading this.... well worth the obscurity of reading 2yearold youtube comments... : )
actually shes lying about talking to ian over the phone because peter hook(bass player for joy division) recently said in an interview that ian didn't have a phone
I've spent some time with gen. You do have to take what he says with a grain of salt.
@samuelsixvids .....because....;{}
Gen brought 'experimental' out of the closet, and made it mainstream with TG. He bridged Punk Rock and New Wave and took it down the low road as opposed to the high whilst at the fork in the road in the late 70's. If anyone told me I'd be interested in John Cage while listeing to 10 Pole Tudor, I'd call them crazy! But thanks to TG, I also got educated. What's old is new again with Gen. Jayne County eat your heart out!
why couldnt he have called the police when ian curtis phoned him. hmmm
Okay, can anyone corroborate what he's saying at 5:20 ? It doesn't sound like bullshit, but...
Naughty but nice.
I don't know,I adore Genesis,but being a black male,I want to remain a 'Tandrogyne.'lol
Dude. Have we been listening to the same band?!!! Look at the number of big current groups who state J D as a major influence. Check out the film that was released a year or so ago. Mediocre- I think not.
Re;pressgangers.Hmm! P-orridge and TG were clearly influenced from art movements such as Dada,fluxus and Burroughs cut up method, indeed, so were coum transmissions, but give them some credit as applying such aesthietics to music had never been done in such a way before, if at all. There really is no such thing as originality anyway, everything has its influences. But i must admit that G p-o is somewhat deluded about his own importance.
Why is everybody arguing about who did what first!? We are still talking about these subjects because of a video of Genesis on you tube... You tube wasn't the first vehicle for short film.. Blah Blah Blah. Anyone here actually being in thee majickal aspect or are we creating an anti-rock star? Fuck who was 1st! I learned about sigils from him, cut-up from burroughs, thoth from crowley, alien 'shrooms from Mc Kenna- G.O.I and be. What is this neo-pre-post-ism-ism-ism Stick it- Sheesh! Read a book
@MakkaPakka666 Yeah..the whole body language of that joker is cliché city galore.
he belongs in the Kukelheim museum though,as an endangered species.
Porridge was on the defence for quite another thing though, he was still unsure to take the same amount of botox in the lower lip,,,,;{}
pangender
We should all strive towards androgyne.
No?
that's not correct either. He's been doing his ongoing gender thing for a number of years as money permits and his wife only died about a year ago. My understanding is that they were _both_ having surgery done to create a pandrogenous individual - they were both trying to look like each other
Genesis scares me.
at your moms house
wow, if that interviewer isn`t the creepiest sycophant ever. No wonder genesis is slightly on the defense
he's a transgender
I think he's taken it a bit past that - I gather he is trying to evolve into a third gender or something like that.
You should pick a language and stick to it.
dont think she cares for being human, honestly
it's bullshit. but that's okay...
WTF wheres the bearded lady and the sheep with two heads
Gen perpetuated so much lies and abberations of the truth its laughable. Read Cosey fanni tuttis autobiography for a bit of perspective.
tea
i met her in person and saw a group photo with cosey and i asked her who that was, she said it was a random person they included in the photo shoot to make it look like there were more memberships the band, years later i read coseys book and put 2 and 2 together.
this host is horrible. nervous and all the wrong direction...wierd vibe...gawd bless him for this interview,tho
Hmmmm,,,,. Sorry. TG is an innovative piece. I love the exploration of the outer reaches of what we think is music. But, I gotta say that when I see "Genesis" I see a lost poser. There is not much difference between him/her then a a circus clown.