Out of all 3 endings i like the Haruspex's the best. It gives off the feeling of life moving on after a great loss; the town suffered a catastrophe, but there is a future waiting for the survivors. The Bachelor's is a bit darker, you sacrifice an entire town for the sake of an idea, the possibility of long term gain. It reeks of the end justifies the means, which makes me wonder if the utopians are somehow meant to be analogous to the bolsheviks, as they seem to dogmatically oppose the established order. The changeling's is probably my least favorite. At first glance it seems idyllic, but it is based on human sacrifice. it seems to advocate a tribal mentality that places the whole before the individual. And fuck the powers that be anyway, why should they get a happy ending?
@not Shane kid The Kin would be the ethnic minorities from the steppes; the tatars, mongolians, caucasians and hundreds of others. They lived in the country's borderlands that might as well have been autonomous worlds of their own, with their own traditions and laws, and refused to be integrated into western russian culture.
The two children (the "powers that be") bury their grandfather in the beggining of the game. Simon Kain, an old ruler who was thought to be inmortal and is called "grandpa simon" by the children, also dies at the beggining of the game, and the whole point of the polyhedron is keeping him alive in some way. So beneath the cultural and philosophycal interpretations, the game is also a story about two children playing while mourning the loss of their grandfather.
On one hand, the "Humble" ending seems to be the one with the most character development for Clara, as she learns that even miracles have their destructive price. And it could teach the children that if they want the best of both worlds, they must be ready to sacrifice something of their own. On the other hand, the "Utopian" one could teach the children that there is nothing wrong in welcoming the painful end, because something new is going to be born out of the carcass of what's old. It can be both wonderful and terrifying. It's going to depend on how you approach it. And, it's the one that demands the less sacrifice from your part. It might look selfish at the first glance. But, in contrast with the "Humble", do you really think it's worth sacrificing yourself, when you know full well the chance of repetition in the future is high ? There's nothing wrong in having faith, but only when the logical safe options present more harm than good in your calculations.
@@captain2515 The reason to kill all people likely was so they won't spread disease further into the country, though in fact they turned town to dust because weren't able to uphold order since many soldiers were infected and many became mutineers.
The Bachelor ending is the coolest and most fitting for the game imo. Just fucking nuking the town is exactly the kind of ending I'd expect for a game as unforgiving as Pathologic.
They are mourning. A child who tries to cope with a concept such as death, if given the power, could do terrifying things without realizing the harm its coping mechanism causes.
I like the Haruspex’s ending because the town is spared after destroying the polyhedron & the kids are free to live in the town with the sand plague gone.
I'm still of the opinion all these years later, that compared to the three outcomes, the developers in the secret ending where they take the form of the Tragician and the Executor mentioning that Clara's ending was a rush job, I feel as if the Haruspex's ending is the only truly conclusive ending to the plague. The Bachelor's approach to the solution, is as going into a hostage rescue situation, and shooting the hostage to resolve the issue. Being an outsider, struck by the beauty of the euclidean object, opting to preserve the source of the sand plague while destroying those who are suffering as a result.
Is that the one ending where you follow up with the developers who appear as the Tragician & the Executor? I tried to include the 4 main ending that you get from each playthrough with every character's conclusion, and if we're thinking of the same thing, then I might've just forgotten to have recorded it thinking it wasn't another ending, but I could be mistaken.
What ending do you think is the best to provide to the "Powers that Be" ? -On one hand, the "Humble" ending seems to be the one with the most character development for Clara, as she learns that even miracles have their destructive price. And it could teach the children that if they want the best of both worlds, they must be ready to sacrifice something of their own. -On the other hand, the "Utopian" one could teach the children that there is nothing wrong in welcoming the painful end, because something new is going to be born out of the carcass of what's old. It can be both wonderful and terrifying. It's going to depend on how you approach it. And, it's the one that demands the less sacrifice from your part. It might look selfish at the first glance. But, in contrast with the "Humble", do you really think it's worth sacrificing yourself, when you know full well the chance of repetition in the future is high ? There's nothing wrong in having faith, but only when the logical safe options present more harm than good in your calculations.
In the epilogue when you 100% complete a save game and speak to the characters that represent the developers, they state that clara's ending was rushed in the development process, so I personally don't really consider it between the Haruspex and Bachelor's solution. With that said, I believe the Haruspex has the true answers to the source of the Sand Plague, the Bachelor being an outsider academic, befitting to the stereotype of scholars with their heads so far up their ass that they're blind to results outside of a lab environment, where external factors aren't taken into consideration. The haruspex has the strongest case, being a local to the population and the weird culture surrounding the steppe town being his culture. He understands that the town's main industry is the abattoir, and correctly identifies it as the source of the plague. The bachelor being a detached outsider, high on his own hubris, orders the destruction of the town because he holds no connection to it besides trying to figure the source of the plague out, ultimately choosing to wipe the town out instead of saving it due to lack of personal investment. I apologize if this response is a bit scatterbrained, I have just returned from work and haven't touched Pathologic since 2018. Might be time for another round of suffering with another playthrough.
@@MrSethKS17 I see your point and the Harsupex's. And it does feel wrong to destroy the town when you know what the source is. But it also feels wrong to put an end to the Polyhedron, given the potential it holds. Besides, the Changeling's counterpart had the power to control the Plague. And she was spreading it because of what the culture was doing to the land. You fix the problem for now, but do you really want to subject yourself like this to the supernatural will ? To remain in your place, as the land's prisioner ? Normally it wouldn't be a problem, if it wasn't for the fact it was keeping you from exploring further the possibilities of the Polyhedron.
@@MrSethKS17 I don't think the Bachelor thinks the town should be destroyed out of having no attachment to it, but rather that the plague will just keep coming back if the polyhedron is not destroyed. He has reason to believe that keeping the polyhedron intact could speed up his research into defeating death, which is a noble goal, even if the cost is too high, I think it's understandable to come to that conclusion. All that said if I were in the situation I'd pick the Haruspex's ending.
Bachelor ending is so logical and smart. So we know that time period of game is allusion on September, year 1917. Stamatin told about February calamities, which only can refer to February bourgeois revolution, the background war is WW1, so there are two months prior Bolshevik revolution and people start splitting in their opinions. But no, Kains aren't radical communists and this isn't about politics. Bachelor is a modern man, cynical scientist, practically Nietzsche's ubermensch which challenging moral and biological laws and state government as well, just like it was written. So it make so much sense he teamed up with Kains which have the same views - today human is only on the way to be something great, ascended. Kains were both excited and afraid of Bachelor though, because he is stronger, above them. All this Simon thing seems a big hoax, just to lure Bachelor, Simon was a twin of perfectly normal Judge after all. "Higher man utopia" need people to build a road, to create environment for his appearing, and even Kains are easily turning themselves to sacrifice for a plan. No doubt grey town full of faceless people living on old superstitions and mundane things, in fear of Tower which is a dawn of ideal man, eventually will ruin said genius creation. So there you go plague and crisis, people and town served their role as background and must go. Bachelor was used to get rid of other families and settlement, but he is benefited to be much open-minded, stronger, more cynical and cold-hearted, either he stays with Maria or move to Capital.
I think the main writer said somewhere that it’s supposed to mean that Daniil has no place in the utopia he helped create, whatever that means. I guess he’d get kicked out by Maria for some reason or he’d leave on his own.
He said himself just before his ending he was getting on the first military train out of that hellhole. I don't blame him, that's what I'd do too lmao.
@@skellymin I agree, the poor guy-he can be a dick sure but he really tried to help the town and they just kept fighting him-and trying to kill him. Him going "Fuck all y'all" and deciding to save only the tower was actually a very human choice. The towns doomed, the people may be worse than the actual plague, but at least he something worth trying to preserve.
So did I get the endings right… the Bachelor and the Kaines are like the "we are rich, everbody Else can Go to hell"- people. Solve nothing and help the rich to prevent getting the Plague. Haruspex, Inquisitor and Capella Gang of Good Guys, helping the locals and poor. Solve the mystery and cure the Plaque. Changeling and Saburova dudes (which are Kinda evil and just want power?) are like strange fortune telling- guys. Solve Kind of the Mystery of the town but did nothing against the plague, just kill some people from time to Time and Form kind of an destiny.. paradox… Fortune teller- cult ..? Not sure if I‘m on the right way here…
From my perspective, the way I saw the Bachelor's solution was that he was, from being an outsider, unable to truly grasp the true root of the problem, and thus his solution to the plague would also end up being fruitless & pointless in the end. Not doing their solution out of malice, but moreso out of ignorance, blinded by academic, 'logical' solutions in a town filled with all sorts of myths & superstitions. Being tied to the town's meat industry through his father, I expected the Haruspex would be more accustomed to the local ways of life & their peculiar traditions, and thus his solution would've been tied in more with what is the most logical solution, that is to destroy the Polyhedron, having pierced the earth of the infected bulls blood. I personally side that this is probably the correct outcome to finishing the story. I don't really have many comments on the changelings ending, though I do agree with you that it was more of an esoteric, politically driven storyline, discussing more about the families in power compared to the Bachelor, being an outsider & not acquainted with all the details, and the Haruspex being tied up with the false murder accusation, though I feel as if the Haruspex & Changelings timelines converge much more starkly when compared to timeline converges with the Bachelor. Though if memory serves me correctly, her ending was very rushed. Sorry if this doesn't really answer your question. I haven't had my coffee yet today.
@@cevechforthound3348 My main language is English, and even with the translation with the HD remake, there's still a lot of flourish in the language even I find difficult to understand. It's still easily my favourite video game as far as story telling goes, because the game practically rests on the story alone. Only God knows how many times I shot an enemy in the head, only for the shot to not properly register. The Iditarod that was the Haruspex playthrough was well worth suffering through, however, though I can only recommend the game to those with unlimited patience.
It is rather more metaphoric than that. Spoilers.. duh. Bachelor is not about "richness". The guy's life work is conquering death itself - an impossible foe and the absolute law of nature - even the reason he is there was to meet with a seemingly immortal man who could reinforce his beliefs. And here, with Kains, he was enthralled the Polyhedron (and earlier drafts scattered around the city as "Stairways to Heaven") - something that is a work of human hands, but utterly defying the laws of nature by just existing. Thus, he can't afford destroying the Polyhedron (which also kept its inhabitants safe from the Plague) as it is a symbol of what he stands for. So he sides with Kains to preserve this astonishing achievement of the men, even at the cost of the city and great many lives - embracing the "human triumph over nature" theme. Haruspex is a more straightforward one, the obvious wheel motiff in it gives it away. Cycle and inheritence are the Haruspex' theme. The cycle of nature, which released the Plague in response to Polyhedron's creation. Now that the Polyhedron is gone and the cure is administered to those affected, the life will go on and the children who were backing Haruspex up will eventually inherit the city from the current ruling families, taking up their places, with Haruspex himself leading the Kin like his father did. Preservation and tradition. The Impostress (sorry, that's what she is called in the Russian original, more used to that one) is a personification of the Plague, that is the role Powers that Be made her into. But... she doesn't want to be. Empowered by you, the player, she can defy the Powers, which leads to her twin being willed into existence. So, it goes either ending number 1, in which she reembraces what she is, i.e. becomes the Plague again and her twin, taking her place as the Impostress, the Miracle-worker, fails to stop her... or ending number 4, in which her defiance is successfull (...ish), and her twin takes up the mantle of the Sand Plague. What you see is people surrender themselves to her power, which turns their blood into, basically, the raw material for the panacea. The Polyhedron is still there, and so is the Plague, but they sustain the city with the blood of willing sacrficies, the vile, corrupt souls who believe they can atone with that and believe in her Miracle. Even Powers are making offerings and bowing down because they are powerless against the guiding hand that made Clara able to preserve things as they are. Yours. Expression of free will in the confines of the world Powers created - that is what her theme is.
Yeah it's important to see the endings symbolically. Clara's ending is a bit dark and had some bad implications on the outside, but if you interpret it metaphorically, I think it means sometimes we have to sacrifice our own comfort for the good of a whole even if it's not immediately gratifying (like y'know, Maybe wearing a damn mask) . But I hope p2 does a better job of portraying that rather than the creepy blood cult of war crimes...or maybe that it's only possible in a child's play that compromise can happen...
Just finished my second playthrough, using the Haruspex (haven't done the Changeling's playthrough yet, so I stopped watching this video when you got to her ending). What do you make of that little bonus scene that comes up sometimes after one of these four endings? You know, the bit where you appear in the theater, and the three playable characters are slumped against the wall? Do you know what triggers that? I've seen it twice now, but I don't know exactly what I did that makes it come up.
I remember the sequence you're talking about, but personally can't recall what that was. I think it might've been related to a 'bad ending' sort of trigger. Take my word with a grain of salt, though. It's been so long and I've been hankering for another play-through. :)
@@MrSethKS17 Developers congratulate you for choosing a "standart" option for the character of your own volition ("That was a free choice"), provided you are doing so aware of the true nature of the events. That said, for the Impostress the "bad ending" becomes a "correct" one should you only unlock Powers, but not the Developers, Clara basically reembracing her true nature as the Powers intended her to.
I just finished another playthrough, this is my take: You get the theatre post-ending scene when you chose an ending NOT fitting your character/mainquest. For example: Being Burakh and choosing Daniel's ending. Or choosing the bad ending on purpose even if you succeeded.
The townspeople don't die? From what I remember at the end developer talk they pretty much said "lol yeah clara's ending is a shoehorned happy go lucky ending because we ran out of time", & from my understanding the Haruspex is the true ending. Could be mistaken as well, though. I'm just some dude who likes niche viddy games.
@@MrSethKS17 I just thought the townspeople died because they are first kneeling in front of the sandbox and then they're just sprawled on the ground. I mean... what's up with that ?
Clara's "miracle", if you choose her ending, requires using her healing abilities on her followers. The process alters their blood, making it similar to Simon's, from which the panacea can be created by the Haruspex. Essentially, the plague never goes away since the Polyhedron is intact, but her followers sacrifice themselves to keep the 'sacred' blood, and thus, the panacea flowing. So, you might be looking at the most sinister ending out of four, despite the happy peaceful music and smiles and rainbows.
It's one hell of a time. The gameplay itself is grueling, but underneath of that is the best story I've seen in any video game, period. It's definitely not for everybody, but if you enjoy a good story, pathologic is as good as it gets, and is the only game I've played out of hundreds where they actually deliver on the promise of "Every decision matters." It's an incredibly niche title but I urge you to at the very least attempt a bachelor run. (Haruspex goes further into the towns lore, as the Bachelor is an outsider & some of the townsfolk will outright lie to your face.)
@@martintakeheart9903 Exactly, they're children and they couldn't agree how to end their game, so in anger they destroyed them all. Their fighting and inability to work together killed everyone.
@@NightLordfan You speak with the devs only after getting a 100% complete playthrough with all of your bound surviving, as well as the bound of your counterparts (everybody must survive, meaning you'll need somewhere from 6 to 9 panaceas or shmowder). I ended up obtaining it on Clara's run.
@@pedroromano9 O proposito do jogo é isso meu filho. Ou você acha que pathologic é jogo de você dar as maos e sair matando monstro? Já tem milhares de jogos assim. Ele é um jogo de relações politicas, lore e tragédia. E não é pra todo mundo, se vc não gostou você é só mais do mesmo, mais da maioria. Parabens
O 2 sendo literamente uma adaptação desse kkkkkk, sem esse não existiria o 2. É a mesma coisa de falar "hurr durrr odeio meus pais", você não estaria nem comentando isso se não fosse por eles. Cada uma, os caras querem q um jogo dos anos 2000 tivesse os gráficos do 2. Você deve ser um adolescente modinha q viu o video do felipe ramos e acha que é fã de verdade.
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Out of all 3 endings i like the Haruspex's the best. It gives off the feeling of life moving on after a great loss; the town suffered a catastrophe, but there is a future waiting for the survivors. The Bachelor's is a bit darker, you sacrifice an entire town for the sake of an idea, the possibility of long term gain. It reeks of the end justifies the means, which makes me wonder if the utopians are somehow meant to be analogous to the bolsheviks, as they seem to dogmatically oppose the established order. The changeling's is probably my least favorite. At first glance it seems idyllic, but it is based on human sacrifice. it seems to advocate a tribal mentality that places the whole before the individual. And fuck the powers that be anyway, why should they get a happy ending?
@not Shane kid The Kin would be the ethnic minorities from the steppes; the tatars, mongolians, caucasians and hundreds of others. They lived in the country's borderlands that might as well have been autonomous worlds of their own, with their own traditions and laws, and refused to be integrated into western russian culture.
Seeming awesome at first glance but ending up being horrible is a perfect way to describe the changeling as a whole. Hyprotical creepy kid
The two children (the "powers that be") bury their grandfather in the beggining of the game. Simon Kain, an old ruler who was thought to be inmortal and is called "grandpa simon" by the children, also dies at the beggining of the game, and the whole point of the polyhedron is keeping him alive in some way. So beneath the cultural and philosophycal interpretations, the game is also a story about two children playing while mourning the loss of their grandfather.
@@aarondafunchio5610 this is an important detail that no one talks about in reviews
On one hand, the "Humble" ending seems to be the one with the most character development for Clara, as she learns that even miracles have their destructive price. And it could teach the children that if they want the best of both worlds, they must be ready to sacrifice something of their own.
On the other hand, the "Utopian" one could teach the children that there is nothing wrong in welcoming the painful end, because something new is going to be born out of the carcass of what's old. It can be both wonderful and terrifying. It's going to depend on how you approach it. And, it's the one that demands the less sacrifice from your part. It might look selfish at the first glance. But, in contrast with the "Humble", do you really think it's worth sacrificing yourself, when you know full well the chance of repetition in the future is high ? There's nothing wrong in having faith, but only when the logical safe options present more harm than good in your calculations.
Imagine doing something like Bachelors ending in a real disease outbreak.
Just fucking nuke the country lmao
I mean.
If all of the infected people are dead
Then it should work
@@captain2515 The reason to kill all people likely was so they won't spread disease further into the country, though in fact they turned town to dust because weren't able to uphold order since many soldiers were infected and many became mutineers.
Lol@PseudoWounds
The Bachelor ending is the coolest and most fitting for the game imo. Just fucking nuking the town is exactly the kind of ending I'd expect for a game as unforgiving as Pathologic.
TRUE!
for pathologic, yeah
but not for pathologic 2
honestly isnt that what everybody would want to do after suffering so much?
I was so pissed after visiting Polyhedron as Bachelor so I gladly blew the whole city 😈
dude the discord ping at the beginning got me
The beginning of the bad ending sounds like the beginning to a death grips song.
lot of boss baby vibes
Bad Ending basically turns the town into The Imperial Capital from Drakengard
1:47 It's interesting that the kids dont want you to destroy the town but do it if you want. This also miss end 5.
What's ending 5 ?
Maria looks so stunning at the end.
The children are so creepy in this game
They are mourning. A child who tries to cope with a concept such as death, if given the power, could do terrifying things without realizing the harm its coping mechanism causes.
That bloop sound at the start sounded like discord
It is
I like the Haruspex’s ending because the town is spared after destroying the polyhedron & the kids are free to live in the town with the sand plague gone.
I'm still of the opinion all these years later, that compared to the three outcomes, the developers in the secret ending where they take the form of the Tragician and the Executor mentioning that Clara's ending was a rush job, I feel as if the Haruspex's ending is the only truly conclusive ending to the plague. The Bachelor's approach to the solution, is as going into a hostage rescue situation, and shooting the hostage to resolve the issue. Being an outsider, struck by the beauty of the euclidean object, opting to preserve the source of the sand plague while destroying those who are suffering as a result.
I'm just now realizing the symbolism behind the sand plagues name.
Also you missed the theatre ending.
Is that the one ending where you follow up with the developers who appear as the Tragician & the Executor? I tried to include the 4 main ending that you get from each playthrough with every character's conclusion, and if we're thinking of the same thing, then I might've just forgotten to have recorded it thinking it wasn't another ending, but I could be mistaken.
whats the symbolism?
@@Jesse-fd5bv I forgot, maybe something to do with the secret ending and the truth of what the town is
@@RoosterCogburnPhD oh. right. Hahaha
please tell us about it
What ending do you think is the best to provide to the "Powers that Be" ?
-On one hand, the "Humble" ending seems to be the one with the most character development for Clara, as she learns that even miracles have their destructive price. And it could teach the children that if they want the best of both worlds, they must be ready to sacrifice something of their own.
-On the other hand, the "Utopian" one could teach the children that there is nothing wrong in welcoming the painful end, because something new is going to be born out of the carcass of what's old. It can be both wonderful and terrifying. It's going to depend on how you approach it. And, it's the one that demands the less sacrifice from your part. It might look selfish at the first glance. But, in contrast with the "Humble", do you really think it's worth sacrificing yourself, when you know full well the chance of repetition in the future is high ? There's nothing wrong in having faith, but only when the logical safe options present more harm than good in your calculations.
In the epilogue when you 100% complete a save game and speak to the characters that represent the developers, they state that clara's ending was rushed in the development process, so I personally don't really consider it between the Haruspex and Bachelor's solution.
With that said, I believe the Haruspex has the true answers to the source of the Sand Plague, the Bachelor being an outsider academic, befitting to the stereotype of scholars with their heads so far up their ass that they're blind to results outside of a lab environment, where external factors aren't taken into consideration. The haruspex has the strongest case, being a local to the population and the weird culture surrounding the steppe town being his culture. He understands that the town's main industry is the abattoir, and correctly identifies it as the source of the plague. The bachelor being a detached outsider, high on his own hubris, orders the destruction of the town because he holds no connection to it besides trying to figure the source of the plague out, ultimately choosing to wipe the town out instead of saving it due to lack of personal investment.
I apologize if this response is a bit scatterbrained, I have just returned from work and haven't touched Pathologic since 2018. Might be time for another round of suffering with another playthrough.
@@MrSethKS17 I see your point and the Harsupex's. And it does feel wrong to destroy the town when you know what the source is. But it also feels wrong to put an end to the Polyhedron, given the potential it holds.
Besides, the Changeling's counterpart had the power to control the Plague. And she was spreading it because of what the culture was doing to the land. You fix the problem for now, but do you really want to subject yourself like this to the supernatural will ? To remain in your place, as the land's prisioner ? Normally it wouldn't be a problem, if it wasn't for the fact it was keeping you from exploring further the possibilities of the Polyhedron.
@@MrSethKS17 I don't think the Bachelor thinks the town should be destroyed out of having no attachment to it, but rather that the plague will just keep coming back if the polyhedron is not destroyed. He has reason to believe that keeping the polyhedron intact could speed up his research into defeating death, which is a noble goal, even if the cost is too high, I think it's understandable to come to that conclusion. All that said if I were in the situation I'd pick the Haruspex's ending.
Bachelor ending is so logical and smart.
So we know that time period of game is allusion on September, year 1917. Stamatin told about February calamities, which only can refer to February bourgeois revolution, the background war is WW1, so there are two months prior Bolshevik revolution and people start splitting in their opinions.
But no, Kains aren't radical communists and this isn't about politics. Bachelor is a modern man, cynical scientist, practically Nietzsche's ubermensch which challenging moral and biological laws and state government as well, just like it was written. So it make so much sense he teamed up with Kains which have the same views - today human is only on the way to be something great, ascended. Kains were both excited and afraid of Bachelor though, because he is stronger, above them. All this Simon thing seems a big hoax, just to lure Bachelor, Simon was a twin of perfectly normal Judge after all. "Higher man utopia" need people to build a road, to create environment for his appearing, and even Kains are easily turning themselves to sacrifice for a plan. No doubt grey town full of faceless people living on old superstitions and mundane things, in fear of Tower which is a dawn of ideal man, eventually will ruin said genius creation. So there you go plague and crisis, people and town served their role as background and must go. Bachelor was used to get rid of other families and settlement, but he is benefited to be much open-minded, stronger, more cynical and cold-hearted, either he stays with Maria or move to Capital.
Everyone in this game is a Nietzsche's slave.
@@user-fz9uf5jf5v I think writers most certainly were.
Плохая концовка напугала не хуже первого Сайлета Хилла, просто жуть...
I still don't understand why bachelor isn't in his own ending but the other two mains are. Does he die? He's my favourite character
I think the main writer said somewhere that it’s supposed to mean that Daniil has no place in the utopia he helped create, whatever that means. I guess he’d get kicked out by Maria for some reason or he’d leave on his own.
He said himself just before his ending he was getting on the first military train out of that hellhole. I don't blame him, that's what I'd do too lmao.
@@skellymin I agree, the poor guy-he can be a dick sure but he really tried to help the town and they just kept fighting him-and trying to kill him. Him going "Fuck all y'all" and deciding to save only the tower was actually a very human choice. The towns doomed, the people may be worse than the actual plague, but at least he something worth trying to preserve.
"Does he die" giving me big Marble Nest vibes...God I can't wait for his and Clara's routes in P2
@@Ranixo286 I just went for the "Infinite Time Loop" ending, so, no, I guess he doesn't.
Eyo? Changeling route looking kinda sus
I still find Block hugging Clara weird regarding she is underage.
So did I get the endings right…
the Bachelor and the Kaines are like the "we are rich, everbody Else can Go to hell"- people. Solve nothing and help the rich to prevent getting the Plague.
Haruspex, Inquisitor and Capella Gang of Good Guys, helping the locals and poor. Solve the mystery and cure the Plaque.
Changeling and Saburova dudes (which are Kinda evil and just want power?) are like strange fortune telling- guys. Solve Kind of the Mystery of the town but did nothing against the plague, just kill some people from time to Time and Form kind of an destiny.. paradox… Fortune teller- cult ..?
Not sure if I‘m on the right way here…
From my perspective, the way I saw the Bachelor's solution was that he was, from being an outsider, unable to truly grasp the true root of the problem, and thus his solution to the plague would also end up being fruitless & pointless in the end. Not doing their solution out of malice, but moreso out of ignorance, blinded by academic, 'logical' solutions in a town filled with all sorts of myths & superstitions.
Being tied to the town's meat industry through his father, I expected the Haruspex would be more accustomed to the local ways of life & their peculiar traditions, and thus his solution would've been tied in more with what is the most logical solution, that is to destroy the Polyhedron, having pierced the earth of the infected bulls blood. I personally side that this is probably the correct outcome to finishing the story.
I don't really have many comments on the changelings ending, though I do agree with you that it was more of an esoteric, politically driven storyline, discussing more about the families in power compared to the Bachelor, being an outsider & not acquainted with all the details, and the Haruspex being tied up with the false murder accusation, though I feel as if the Haruspex & Changelings timelines converge much more starkly when compared to timeline converges with the Bachelor. Though if memory serves me correctly, her ending was very rushed.
Sorry if this doesn't really answer your question. I haven't had my coffee yet today.
@@MrSethKS17 thanks for answering so fast! Since the game isn‘t playable in my language it‘s very hard to understand the plot properly :D
@@cevechforthound3348 My main language is English, and even with the translation with the HD remake, there's still a lot of flourish in the language even I find difficult to understand. It's still easily my favourite video game as far as story telling goes, because the game practically rests on the story alone. Only God knows how many times I shot an enemy in the head, only for the shot to not properly register. The Iditarod that was the Haruspex playthrough was well worth suffering through, however, though I can only recommend the game to those with unlimited patience.
It is rather more metaphoric than that. Spoilers.. duh.
Bachelor is not about "richness". The guy's life work is conquering death itself - an impossible foe and the absolute law of nature - even the reason he is there was to meet with a seemingly immortal man who could reinforce his beliefs. And here, with Kains, he was enthralled the Polyhedron (and earlier drafts scattered around the city as "Stairways to Heaven") - something that is a work of human hands, but utterly defying the laws of nature by just existing. Thus, he can't afford destroying the Polyhedron (which also kept its inhabitants safe from the Plague) as it is a symbol of what he stands for. So he sides with Kains to preserve this astonishing achievement of the men, even at the cost of the city and great many lives - embracing the "human triumph over nature" theme.
Haruspex is a more straightforward one, the obvious wheel motiff in it gives it away. Cycle and inheritence are the Haruspex' theme. The cycle of nature, which released the Plague in response to Polyhedron's creation. Now that the Polyhedron is gone and the cure is administered to those affected, the life will go on and the children who were backing Haruspex up will eventually inherit the city from the current ruling families, taking up their places, with Haruspex himself leading the Kin like his father did. Preservation and tradition.
The Impostress (sorry, that's what she is called in the Russian original, more used to that one) is a personification of the Plague, that is the role Powers that Be made her into. But... she doesn't want to be. Empowered by you, the player, she can defy the Powers, which leads to her twin being willed into existence. So, it goes either ending number 1, in which she reembraces what she is, i.e. becomes the Plague again and her twin, taking her place as the Impostress, the Miracle-worker, fails to stop her... or ending number 4, in which her defiance is successfull (...ish), and her twin takes up the mantle of the Sand Plague.
What you see is people surrender themselves to her power, which turns their blood into, basically, the raw material for the panacea. The Polyhedron is still there, and so is the Plague, but they sustain the city with the blood of willing sacrficies, the vile, corrupt souls who believe they can atone with that and believe in her Miracle. Even Powers are making offerings and bowing down because they are powerless against the guiding hand that made Clara able to preserve things as they are. Yours. Expression of free will in the confines of the world Powers created - that is what her theme is.
Yeah it's important to see the endings symbolically. Clara's ending is a bit dark and had some bad implications on the outside, but if you interpret it metaphorically, I think it means sometimes we have to sacrifice our own comfort for the good of a whole even if it's not immediately gratifying (like y'know, Maybe wearing a damn mask) . But I hope p2 does a better job of portraying that rather than the creepy blood cult of war crimes...or maybe that it's only possible in a child's play that compromise can happen...
Just finished my second playthrough, using the Haruspex (haven't done the Changeling's playthrough yet, so I stopped watching this video when you got to her ending).
What do you make of that little bonus scene that comes up sometimes after one of these four endings? You know, the bit where you appear in the theater, and the three playable characters are slumped against the wall? Do you know what triggers that? I've seen it twice now, but I don't know exactly what I did that makes it come up.
I remember the sequence you're talking about, but personally can't recall what that was. I think it might've been related to a 'bad ending' sort of trigger. Take my word with a grain of salt, though. It's been so long and I've been hankering for another play-through. :)
It occurs if you choose the ending fit for your character. It has nothing to do with a "bad ending", quite the other way around.
@@MrSethKS17 Developers congratulate you for choosing a "standart" option for the character of your own volition ("That was a free choice"), provided you are doing so aware of the true nature of the events.
That said, for the Impostress the "bad ending" becomes a "correct" one should you only unlock Powers, but not the Developers, Clara basically reembracing her true nature as the Powers intended her to.
@@arthursimsa9005 It appeared in my Bachelor route for both the Bachelor and the Haruspex ending so what you're saying can't be true.
I just finished another playthrough, this is my take: You get the theatre post-ending scene when you chose an ending NOT fitting your character/mainquest. For example: Being Burakh and choosing Daniel's ending. Or choosing the bad ending on purpose even if you succeeded.
Don't understand the changeling's ending. Why did the townspeople die ?
The townspeople don't die? From what I remember at the end developer talk they pretty much said "lol yeah clara's ending is a shoehorned happy go lucky ending because we ran out of time", & from my understanding the Haruspex is the true ending. Could be mistaken as well, though. I'm just some dude who likes niche viddy games.
@@MrSethKS17 I just thought the townspeople died because they are first kneeling in front of the sandbox and then they're just sprawled on the ground. I mean... what's up with that ?
@@felicianofrontado3134 my guess is that these were the people who agreed to sacrifice themselfes to save the city
Clara's "miracle", if you choose her ending, requires using her healing abilities on her followers. The process alters their blood, making it similar to Simon's, from which the panacea can be created by the Haruspex.
Essentially, the plague never goes away since the Polyhedron is intact, but her followers sacrifice themselves to keep the 'sacred' blood, and thus, the panacea flowing. So, you might be looking at the most sinister ending out of four, despite the happy peaceful music and smiles and rainbows.
@@ВладиславШаклеин-ч7м Thank you for your comment. I forgot about blood being used in the panacea, and it really does make it the darkest ending.
i really cant understand the game lol
Have you played it fully? ^^
It's one hell of a time. The gameplay itself is grueling, but underneath of that is the best story I've seen in any video game, period. It's definitely not for everybody, but if you enjoy a good story, pathologic is as good as it gets, and is the only game I've played out of hundreds where they actually deliver on the promise of "Every decision matters." It's an incredibly niche title but I urge you to at the very least attempt a bachelor run. (Haruspex goes further into the towns lore, as the Bachelor is an outsider & some of the townsfolk will outright lie to your face.)
Do the powers that be die in the bad ending?
the powers that be are children
@@MrSethKS17 yeah but they're laying down and like in pain or something
@Conor MCFADDEN but they destroyed them
@@martintakeheart9903 Exactly, they're children and they couldn't agree how to end their game, so in anger they destroyed them all. Their fighting and inability to work together killed everyone.
@@Skedz33 😔
i wish i could understand wth happend on the Changeling ending
People are regularly sacrificed, so there is no need to blow anything up and so on. In real life, children depict these sacrifices using real food.
que viage é essa
capotei
Os finais do classico rsrs, achou q tudo era bonitinho como no 2 do video "pathologic um diamante no mundo dos jogos"? rsrs
@@winypacifist5034mais o final do artemy do 2 nao seria o mesmo que deste?
@@winypacifist5034e voce pode me explicar o final da clara?
Bachelor's ending is the best one. No I will not elaborate further.
What the hell happened?
The game ended? :O
@@ВладиславШаклеин-ч7м But where is the true ending scene where you talk to the devs?
@@NightLordfan You *talk* with them prior to actually having a finishing cutscene. Or you mean leaving that small theatre one?
@@ВладиславШаклеин-ч7м maybe do not remember
@@NightLordfan You speak with the devs only after getting a 100% complete playthrough with all of your bound surviving, as well as the bound of your counterparts (everybody must survive, meaning you'll need somewhere from 6 to 9 panaceas or shmowder). I ended up obtaining it on Clara's run.
QUE JOGO LIXO... prefiro o pathologic 2
O 2 é um remake desse amigo
Respeite o tempo tapado
Tem razão, muito chato, muito antigo, muito estressante, o 2 é melhor de jogar
é 1 cerebro de sopa msm
@@pedroromano9 O proposito do jogo é isso meu filho. Ou você acha que pathologic é jogo de você dar as maos e sair matando monstro? Já tem milhares de jogos assim. Ele é um jogo de relações politicas, lore e tragédia. E não é pra todo mundo, se vc não gostou você é só mais do mesmo, mais da maioria. Parabens
O 2 sendo literamente uma adaptação desse kkkkkk, sem esse não existiria o 2. É a mesma coisa de falar "hurr durrr odeio meus pais", você não estaria nem comentando isso se não fosse por eles. Cada uma, os caras querem q um jogo dos anos 2000 tivesse os gráficos do 2. Você deve ser um adolescente modinha q viu o video do felipe ramos e acha que é fã de verdade.