I feel like the only issue with sokka being suyins dad is that it is not in character for him to knowingly abandon his daughter. The only way it really works is if Sokka died before finding out.
The part about him dying seems like the most logical one. But at the same time I feel like there are a few characters in the show that gives off that Sokka vibe. I can see him being a rolling stone
Tbh most characters were done dirty... Aang and Toph are also both bad parents and Katara...she is there? She exsists...but def not done right!! We alredy know Sokka is dead so him possibly dying befor even finding out he has a daughter might genuenly be true? But I would still think it would have been sh'ty if Toph distances Katara from her niece.
@@minus606 Why would you expect aang and toph to be good parents? You can be great people and not be good at parenting. Someone with the duties Aang had, absolutely I'd believe wouldn't have time for children and the way its portrayed makes some sense in wanting as much time as he could with the only air-bending child he had. As for Katara... Did we even watch the same show? She had massive parts to play in Korras development and was the one who taught her water bending.
@@justsomeguy747no toph didn’t really have and love interest like sometimes she kinda liked him but we already know sokaiya prob got with suki (sorry if it’s like conformed he’s not with suki or something i havent watched the legend of kora)
It kinda sucks that we see the rest of Team Avatar’s kids and families, but Sokka was single that whole time? That’s a damn shame. Dude should’ve had like 5 kids. He rizzed up the moon spirit!
Easily retconned fact. Aside from Toph could be hiding info, Sokka having children but preferred to hide that fact for safety reasons, that or Sokka just not being a dude to really settle down.
The latest chapter of Metalbending Academy features a new dark skinned earthbender character, a boy who can lavabend named Sun. He also has a mop top style of hair cut (similar to Opal... in fact, the resemblance between Sun and Opal are uncanny). Toph saves Sun from falling debris during a building collapse after a fire is started from Sun's out control lavabending, and Toph tries to recruit him to join her Metalbending Academy. Sun could be Suyin's father instead of Sokka.
@@arcturionblade1077 OR IT COULD BE SATORU??? U MUST HAVE NOT READ ALL THE COMICS THEN!! STOP WITH THIS SOKKA SHIT ITS NOT HIM!!! I WANT IT TO BE BUT ITS NOT
So Su is Sokka’s daughter but Tenzin used to date Lin with no commentary from the families? I’m just saying. Also keep in mind that Tenzin even says that Lin got along with Aang “famously”, So these two just dated and nothing came up. Or the fact that Tenzin doesn’t seem to regard Su as a family member at all from my memory.
@@justanotherweirdo11 so let me get this straight. Sokka and Toph, got together at some point. Nobody ever found out, which is also unlikely given how close they are. But let’s say they did, maybe…just being charitable. They did the deed, Sokka dies, Toph says nothing, 9 months later, she has a baby. Katara, Aang, Zuko, nobody can put two and two together?
@@JakeTylenol No Sokka would still be alive at that point. The Yakone trial happened after Suyin was born. So the only way for this theory to happen is if Sokka was clueless.
I personally doubt it. I found a quote from Mike DiMartino during his and Konietzko’s retrospective commentary about the episode where Bolin asks who Lin’s dad was: “We didn’t want it to be so simple that it was…not everyone from the old series hooked up with people you know like like people’s lives went on, they met other people that weren’t giant…you know, big characters; yeah they met in the world, they met love interests that were beyond their 12 years…yeah.” Therefore it’s more plausible that Sokka is not Suyin’s father. If you want another candidate, I suggest looking to that inventor guy that Toph met during the harmony restoration movement in Yu Dao.
If Toph and Sokka had Suyin together, that would make Suyin & Tenzin cousins. Meaning, Lin was dating her half-sister’s cousin. I don’t think Sokka is the dad. It is just some random guy she dated. If it was Sokka, that would have come up
I think Su’s father is actually Sun the magma bender from the atla comic Toph Beifong’s Metal Bending academy. Namely because they look so effin similar. Like identical but with age differences from when they’re presented.
Also, Sokka took out Combustion Man with a hit to the head with his boomerang and Suyin took out P'Li with a hit to the head with her armor. Sokka might have told her about how he took out Combustion Man and she did the same.
Suyin is not Sokka's daughter, it's satoru from the atla comic *The rift* because suyins hair is the same as satoru's and both him and toph had feelings for each other, there's no way they didn't meet again
@@VenomZNoHopeI think you’re the slow one….they’re talking about the fact that fans are so desperate for Sokka and toph to be a thing. If they were, Suyin would be related to Katara. Duh.
He wasn't distant. He tried teaching them his love for the air nkmad lifestyle but only Tenzin was interested so Aang thought that the others wouldn't care about spending mich time with him
It makes plenty sense of Aang's character to be understanding and not wanting to pish anything on his kids but it backfires because his other 2 children were left out
My headcannon is that Suyin is the product of the life-changing adventure Zuko owed toph. Canonically, Zuko and Mai break up in the Comics and have yet to get back together. However it is assumed that they did get back together and have Izumi. My reason for why I think Zuko is the father is because he is the only boy other than Sokka who toph shows an interest in. She defends him (albeit from a logical not emotional POV), isn’t shy about opening up to him about her hardships, and on quite a few occasions punched him in the shoulder which she said was her way of showing affection. My Theory is that Zuko owed Toph a proper life changing adventure and gave it to her. Him being the fire lord would have been reason enough to keep the thing under wraps. Even if Mai had died at this point, and Zuko decided to get with Toph, the fire lord having not only an earthbending lover, but Toph Beifong would be too controversial. If Suyin was the product of this adventure, Toph would have most likely not told Zuko because news of an illegitimate child would cause major controversy and trouble for the both of them. We see in TLOK that Toph has no problem sweeping things under the rug and making sure certain things never come to light. Hence if this were all true, it would make sense that Toph would not want Suyin to know Zuko is her father. Plus Suyin’s eyes are green which would have begged even more questions if Zuko officially recognised her as his child. Another reason I think Suyin is Zuko’s daughter is because of their character development, although this may be a stretch. Both of them were fairly rebellious teens until they were sent away and met someone who completely changed their lives and set them on the path for greatness. For Zuko, it was Iroh. For Suyin, it was Bataar. Anyways, this is just my theory.
Gotta be Sokka. I know people think this tarnishes his character but life is complicated. There may be circumstances that explain it. For example, maybe Sokka didn’t know and Toph didn’t say. Perhaps Sokka had just started another family and Tooh didn’t want to ruin that or maybe Sokka was fighting someone dangerous like the red lotus who might have targeted his daughter. Or maybe Toph was just being typical independent, stubborn Toph lol. If it’s true though, it’s lucky Tenzin dated the older daughter!
She grew up in republic city, where both Aang and Zuko spent most of their lives. Even if Kitara wasn't around, Sokka and Toph wouldn't have been able to keep her a secret from Ang or Zuko. And there's no reason for them to keep quite while Toph made her daughters believe they didn't have fathers.
There is a big chance that Suki is the mother of Izumi, Zuko's daughter. Because in the comics, Zuko and Mai break up again and Suki has a crush on Zuko and is his personal guard. So we don't know if Sokka married anyone.
@@demo2823Im pretty sure thats not comfirmed and i think zuko ended up with mai because the scene when zuko and mai fell into the fountain the fountain was named Izumi
It could also be Satoru. Toph and him met in the Atla comics, The Rift more specifically I think. He was an engineer and he and Toph shared romantic interests in each other from what I can remember. He also had a similar look to Toph’s dayghting Suyin
Personally the mystery is what makes it better and not having a answer to it is more interesting or it could be that her dad was a nobody and even toph forgot
That actually explains a lot with her personality but honestly her father needed to be in her life to discipline her ass and also give Toph an earful after what she did with tearing up the papers literally tearing up the family and making the older daughter hold the bag
I believe that she is Sokkas daughter, but he never met her. Not because he is asshole, but considering Suki is also not really mentioned in the Korea series. Here is how I see it. Sokka married Suki. Toph gets together with guy 1. Suki dies in childbirth. Toph comforts Sokka after Suki’s death. Sokka finds out he is going to be a dad, but is killed by the red lotus before he could celebrate. Toph then hides it from Aang, Zuko and Katara as she isn’t the best at showing emotion. Zuko probably assumes something but is forced by Toph to shut up.
Im guessing with toph her earth bending is a dominant trait thats why suyin has earth bending. It also explains why tenzin may have broke up with lin.Since he wanted airbending children
I always felt like suyin’s father was the duke. I felt like there were subtle sparks of a budding friendship/ romance in the last few episodes of the series
Dolls bring suyin’s dad only makes sense because of the similar skin tone but that’s all. It makes more sense if he was bataar’s dad who not only has a similar skin tone but looks a lot looks him and has the same hair style and other factors like his and suton’s kids who share some of sokka’s traits
I believe that sokka is suyin's dad and that toph was pregnant with her during the time when he was killed by the red lotus which could be the reason why she says to never ask about him because she either feels guilty for not being strong enough to protect him or she was that devastated when he died.
My guess is that Toph and Soka had an affaire and before they even reciprocate their relationship Soka died. So she probably didn’t wanted to sully the name of Soka so thats why she never revealed that information.
Here's a plot hole with that theory though. Tanroq, Korra's father, specifically said that Sokka was still Chief when the Red Lotus first tried to nab her @;6 y/o
I think . . . we don't know. If we're meant to know, they'll reveal it. What we do know, everything they do in this show is intentional to some extent.
My personal theory/-ies? Sokka is Suyin's father, but in order to make it work, they may have to retcon a few things and to make it that Sokka died immediately after. If not, Sokka may have had a family but, a certain group could have targeted it and killed them. As a popular theory states Zaheer could be the one who actually killed Sokka. I just hope we get some answers in the upcoming movie. At least some hint...
Sokka was over 70 when he died. That means that guy who was super family goes first for at least 30 years never meet his daughter when for long time they both lived in same city. And sokka isn't stupid I think he would add 2+2 and at least confronted Toph about baby 9 months after they" did something ". Sokka being so focused on his father and then completely abandoning his daughter sounds just wrong. I like that members of Gaang have some flaws like aang spending most time with one child or Toph being bad mother but that would ruin Sokka character imo
I would say not, heres my arguement, so when sokka sacrificed his space sword for toph, people say he did that because he liked toph, but heres my arguement, of course sokka would sacrifice a sword for a human soul, its like would you rather sacrifice your PS5 for your friend, Sokka is gonna choose the more important thing rather than an object, everyone would choose the latter.
Im not saying its not possible but I’m also not saying its not possible like I see all this evidence but thing is 1. I feel like Toph wouldn’t keep Katara from her niece.. I also just feel like Sokka wouldn’t just knowingly abandon his daughter. 2. For example Lin’s dad was “just some dude named Kanto” like the chances are high that the same thing is with Suyin. 3. The chance of Suyin maybe being Sokka’s daughter just bc the have similar skintones is quite slim, there are also earthbenders with similar skintones. And yes I understand Toph spent a lot of time with Sokka and did show interest in him for those reasons, I’m just gonna end this by saying it’s not impossible.
I personally like to think Sokka’s the father. It seems unfair that he’d be the only one out of the gang who didn’t have kids. Also, there’s the fact that Suki is never mentioned or even shown in the adult years, which makes me think that maybe she and Sokka only had a teen romance. 🤷🏽♀️ You know, the war brought them together, so it makes sense that they’d go back to their original lives and become distant. Also, I like the idea of Sokka and Toph have a brief romance that was based off of years of friendship and getting through hardship together. Kanto just sounds like he was some random one-night stand that the writers came up with just they could give “something” to the fans. 😒 Also, there’s the fact that Suyin is clearly Toph’s favorite. And while I don’t agree with favoritism, I could totally see Toph treating the daughter of the man she loved with more maternal affection and treating the daughter of man that she didn’t necessarily care for with basic tolerance. 🤔 Just a thought. And as for the whole Tenzin and Lin thing, it would be unusual but not necessarily wrong for Tenzin to date his cousin’s half-sister. After all, he shared a blood tie with Suyin, not Lin. Therefore, no lines would be crossed. It’s not incest.
Besides, it's not like Tenzin would have known anyways. When she found out he was dating her daughter, Toph probably didn't even tell him then. As long as he wasn't going out with the one he was related to she would think "eh, not my business"
The Last Airbender has a very Japanese Anime feel with lots of Chinese but also Tibetan, Siberian, Indian, mix. Legend of Korra appears their world got Americanised.
It’s probably sokka because her son looks like him and I doubt the creators would do that unless they were implying it and Aang was the first of team avatar to die due to health complications from being in the ice for 100years Sure Sokka might be the farther he might not it’s only speculation and that’s all it will ever be until the creators say otherwise
Idc what fans say and what theories they have, just bc toph had a little crush on sokka does not mean he is the father of her kid. A lot of characters had a crush on sokka, but that doesn't mean he's the father of all their kids. Obviously sokka and toph spent a lot of time together and were close, they saved the world together. Yeah suyin's skin color is similar to sokka's but that doesn't prove he is the father. I get it's just a theory but there are so many fans that legitimately believe sokka is the father bc they ship sokka and toph. It was never confirmed that sokka had any kids or even married anyone. If he did it was probably suki bc they ended up together in the end and even in the comics. We don't know anything for sure and it's nice to have theories but do not believe a unconfirmed theory based off what you wanted to happen in the show
Maybe sokka and her boinked she got preggo and hid it from him cuz of his political career perhaps. Or maybe he got with someone else before she found out and she didnt wanna mess with that. Cuz if sokka knew hed definitely try to be there for them.
Its zuko as both had no relationships at the time and zuko is the only person who blushed who toph and toph also showed interest in him. Also suki is a really important character and I doubt that he would ever dump her
I don’t see it. No matter how you look at it, it’d ruin Sokkas character. He was with Suki. I don’t see Sokka cheating on Suki, because if he did, that’d ruin his character. And let’s say he and Suki broke up and he had a ONS with Toph, him abandoning his child (even if Toph tried to hide it) would ruin his character because he thought Su was his child, he wouldn’t just abandon her. I don’t like the Toph x Sokka ship, just doesn’t work.
The latest chapter of Metalbending Academy features a new dark skinned earthbender character, a boy who can lavabend named Sun. He also has a mop top style of hair cut (similar to Opal... in fact, the resemblance between Sun and Opal are uncanny). Toph saves Sun from falling debris during a building collapse after a fire is started from Sun's out control lavabending, and Toph tries to recruit him to join her Metalbending Academy. Sun could be Suyin's father instead of Sokka.
I'm willing to bet Sokka is her father, I'm more than sure it came out of a short romantic encounter after Suki died young and unexpectedly. It was likely a messy "break up" and either Toph never told him when she found out she was pregnant again or he died before he knew she was pregnant.
@@oppositetwins_shorts Then how did she die? I find it hard to believe she and Sokka didn’t try to have a family together, but there’s no mention of him having kids and no sign of Suki as an adult with him.
@@oppositetwins_shorts she wasn’t with Sokka when he died, as far as I know she’s almost never mentioned after the war ended. Sokka didn’t have any kids as far as we know officially. What happened to her? It must be something hard to talk about because it’s never brought up or questioned.
Being Sokka’s kid would mean that Suyin and Tenzin would be cousins. I feel like that would’ve been brought up if that was the case and making his and Lin relationship more awkward and weird. Also I don’t see sokka breaking up or cheating on Suki.
I had a theory it was Aang, I was thinking when people started gaining air bending, it might be decided if they had air bending ancestors, and maybe Aang and Kartara had a rough patch and maybe Aang and Toph had an affair
I feel like the only issue with sokka being suyins dad is that it is not in character for him to knowingly abandon his daughter. The only way it really works is if Sokka died before finding out.
Well she could''ve also just never told him he was the dad
The part about him dying seems like the most logical one. But at the same time I feel like there are a few characters in the show that gives off that Sokka vibe. I can see him being a rolling stone
Tbh most characters were done dirty...
Aang and Toph are also both bad parents and Katara...she is there? She exsists...but def not done right!!
We alredy know Sokka is dead so him possibly dying befor even finding out he has a daughter might genuenly be true?
But I would still think it would have been sh'ty if Toph distances Katara from her niece.
@@minus606 That's why Legend of Korra is full of crap, in general way worse then ATLA and shouldn't be respected, but treated like a fanfiction.
@@minus606 Why would you expect aang and toph to be good parents? You can be great people and not be good at parenting. Someone with the duties Aang had, absolutely I'd believe wouldn't have time for children and the way its portrayed makes some sense in wanting as much time as he could with the only air-bending child he had. As for Katara... Did we even watch the same show? She had massive parts to play in Korras development and was the one who taught her water bending.
Imagine showing slight affection to someone when you're 12 and then every thinks they're the parent of your child 70 years later
I think it’s mainly because Sokka was Toph’s love interest.
@@justsomeguy747no toph didn’t really have and love interest like sometimes she kinda liked him but we already know sokaiya prob got with suki (sorry if it’s like conformed he’s not with suki or something i havent watched the legend of kora)
Man that’s a toph question 😮
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I'm just stuck in a rock and a hard place with this one
U hit rock bottom with that pun
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@@chuenjinyang4513 What u meant to say is you're stuck between the boulder and a hard place
It kinda sucks that we see the rest of Team Avatar’s kids and families, but Sokka was single that whole time? That’s a damn shame. Dude should’ve had like 5 kids. He rizzed up the moon spirit!
what abt suki? I didn't watch korra so
@@MisheelChinzorig no indication they even stayed together
@@cobaltprime9467also no indication they ever broke apart
Easily retconned fact. Aside from Toph could be hiding info, Sokka having children but preferred to hide that fact for safety reasons, that or Sokka just not being a dude to really settle down.
@@MisheelChinzorig suki died... sorry, it was during a fight
Yk who suyin also shares a skin tone with? Most earthbenders
If Toph's first husband was named Kanto and gave birth to Lin, for sure his second husband that gave birth to Suyin was named Johto.
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Brilliant
Toph never said she married them 😂
LMAO
Smart😂
A dude who could bag toph even temporarily is bad ass
Suyin also has the same skin tone as the boulder so i wouldn’t be so quick to assume it’s sokka
How would it be the boulder bro??? 😭
The age gap- 😭
If Suyin is Sokka's daughter that would make Suyin a watertribe princess
Fukit, Zuko’s her father. Toph finally got her field trip.
As if Zuko dared to cheat on Mai.
They broke up
@@bookworm506 im pretty sure they got back together later on bc izumi looks like mai and izumi means fountain
Satoru (In the Comics) was Toph's Love interest and he has Similar looks to Suyin
Gojo?
@TheRealAkechiGoro I was literally thinking the same thing. IMAGINE- 😭
@@koreanjayfeather2013 We share the same braincell
@@TheRealAkechiGoro Ryoiki Tenkai Muryokusho
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Sokka she is so nice and care free also responsible like him
I think it is the guy from the comics.
The lava bender? yup, *Sun* really resemble Suyin more than Sokka
@@yamid452no it's satoru bruh
The latest chapter of Metalbending Academy features a new dark skinned earthbender character, a boy who can lavabend named Sun. He also has a mop top style of hair cut (similar to Opal... in fact, the resemblance between Sun and Opal are uncanny). Toph saves Sun from falling debris during a building collapse after a fire is started from Sun's out control lavabending, and Toph tries to recruit him to join her Metalbending Academy. Sun could be Suyin's father instead of Sokka.
@@arcturionblade1077 OR IT COULD BE SATORU??? U MUST HAVE NOT READ ALL THE COMICS THEN!! STOP WITH THIS SOKKA SHIT ITS NOT HIM!!! I WANT IT TO BE BUT ITS NOT
She looks just like him, i definitely believe it
It’s definitely Sokka the fact she didn’t wanted Suyin to ask is proof
nuh uh
No idiot they are very different how tf is suyin's hair curly???
@Nicole-kt5qf sun being suyins father sounds interesting ngl
I think Toph just didn't want to tell her kids about their dad.
No definitely not, sokka didn't even like Toph in that way, they were just good friends
also, in the legacy book, soccer is no longer with Suki and he is hanging out with Toph
Soccer is crazy
soccer 😭😭😭
Soccer?
So Su is Sokka’s daughter but Tenzin used to date Lin with no commentary from the families?
I’m just saying.
Also keep in mind that Tenzin even says that Lin got along with Aang “famously”,
So these two just dated and nothing came up.
Or the fact that Tenzin doesn’t seem to regard Su as a family member at all from my memory.
I mean to be fair that would just mean he’s dating his cousin’s sister who he shares no blood with
Have you tried dating someone who got a complicated family issue? The best to do is just turn the other way.
Not a thing if nobody besides Toph knows Suyin is their cousin.
@@justanotherweirdo11 so let me get this straight.
Sokka and Toph, got together at some point.
Nobody ever found out, which is also unlikely given how close they are.
But let’s say they did, maybe…just being charitable.
They did the deed,
Sokka dies,
Toph says nothing,
9 months later, she has a baby.
Katara, Aang, Zuko, nobody can put two and two together?
@@JakeTylenol No Sokka would still be alive at that point. The Yakone trial happened after Suyin was born. So the only way for this theory to happen is if Sokka was clueless.
It seems out of character for Sokka to abandon his daughter. It could be Satoru from the avatar comics who Toph is stated to have a crush on
Fr cause both Toph and Satoru looked like they kinda liked each other.
The honored one?
I feel like the comics introduced a new character just to put an end to this theory, but still, nothing was confirmed, as far as I know.
Hypnosis that the first Lava Bender Sun from the comics is Suyin’s father, seeing on how they look extremely identical.
Don’t you mean hypothesis? Hypnosis is when you try to manipulate somebody my hypnotizing them lol😂
@@Pardisc13895.... Yea 😅
I think autocorrect got you, I think you mean hypothesis?
@@WinterRabbit1 Yea, this is why using mobile kinda sucks 😅
No, he is actually trying to hypnotize people into believing his theory
We are left with more questions than answers when it comes to ATLA and LOK
That one guy who played her role in the stage show
Nah 💀
@@koreanjayfeather2013 shes definitely interested.
I personally doubt it. I found a quote from Mike DiMartino during his and Konietzko’s retrospective commentary about the episode where Bolin asks who Lin’s dad was: “We didn’t want it to be so simple that it was…not everyone from the old series hooked up with people you know like like people’s lives went on, they met other people that weren’t giant…you know, big characters; yeah they met in the world, they met love interests that were beyond their 12 years…yeah.” Therefore it’s more plausible that Sokka is not Suyin’s father. If you want another candidate, I suggest looking to that inventor guy that Toph met during the harmony restoration movement in Yu Dao.
If Toph and Sokka had Suyin together, that would make Suyin & Tenzin cousins. Meaning, Lin was dating her half-sister’s cousin.
I don’t think Sokka is the dad. It is just some random guy she dated. If it was Sokka, that would have come up
I dont think it was with sokka cuz everyone here is forgetting about suki.
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I think Su’s father is actually Sun the magma bender from the atla comic Toph Beifong’s Metal Bending academy. Namely because they look so effin similar. Like identical but with age differences from when they’re presented.
Satoru in the comics makes sense to me, Suyin has the same hair texture as his and he also has the slightly darker skin!
But the hair tho
Satoru gojo😂
@@ilhaylulic8207 lmao nooo i didn't even realize
Looks like toph didn't pray that day.
Toph father also had dark skin
Also, Sokka took out Combustion Man with a hit to the head with his boomerang and Suyin took out P'Li with a hit to the head with her armor. Sokka might have told her about how he took out Combustion Man and she did the same.
Suyin is not Sokka's daughter, it's satoru from the atla comic *The rift* because suyins hair is the same as satoru's and both him and toph had feelings for each other, there's no way they didn't meet again
You are correct, Sokka indeed cannot be Suyin's daughter.
Don't you mean Suyin is not Sokka's daughter?
@@thearchangel9 oh yeah lemme correct that
Pretty sure Suyins father is lava bender from comics named Sun he looks like Opal so it’s a possibility
That's rough buddy😂😂
They also have similar eyes
Also the avatar official channel pointed out themselves that suyin has the same dragon pipe that sokka used in avatar the last airbender
Y’all I get that it’s a mystery or whatever but I think they did it to be relatable and show kids in the audience that all families look different
Its Sun the first lavabender in that time period also he got the same skin tone as suying and looks exatly like suyin
Sokka deserved a family and happiness!
Also in Suyin’s room you can see Sokka’s flute
Fans can't accept that characters in Korra aren't all.immediately related to TLA characters.
What are you even talking about 😂 these characters are already related. They are tophs daughters. You slow or something 💀💀💀
@@VenomZNoHopeI think you’re the slow one….they’re talking about the fact that fans are so desperate for Sokka and toph to be a thing. If they were, Suyin would be related to Katara. Duh.
probably... i mean they made Aang a distant father
He wasn't distant. He tried teaching them his love for the air nkmad lifestyle but only Tenzin was interested so Aang thought that the others wouldn't care about spending mich time with him
It makes plenty sense of Aang's character to be understanding and not wanting to pish anything on his kids but it backfires because his other 2 children were left out
Suyin has sokka's dragon flute looking thing so I think it makes sense a little
My headcannon is that Suyin is the product of the life-changing adventure Zuko owed toph. Canonically, Zuko and Mai break up in the Comics and have yet to get back together. However it is assumed that they did get back together and have Izumi.
My reason for why I think Zuko is the father is because he is the only boy other than Sokka who toph shows an interest in. She defends him (albeit from a logical not emotional POV), isn’t shy about opening up to him about her hardships, and on quite a few occasions punched him in the shoulder which she said was her way of showing affection.
My Theory is that Zuko owed Toph a proper life changing adventure and gave it to her. Him being the fire lord would have been reason enough to keep the thing under wraps. Even if Mai had died at this point, and Zuko decided to get with Toph, the fire lord having not only an earthbending lover, but Toph Beifong would be too controversial. If Suyin was the product of this adventure, Toph would have most likely not told Zuko because news of an illegitimate child would cause major controversy and trouble for the both of them. We see in TLOK that Toph has no problem sweeping things under the rug and making sure certain things never come to light. Hence if this were all true, it would make sense that Toph would not want Suyin to know Zuko is her father.
Plus Suyin’s eyes are green which would have begged even more questions if Zuko officially recognised her as his child.
Another reason I think Suyin is Zuko’s daughter is because of their character development, although this may be a stretch.
Both of them were fairly rebellious teens until they were sent away and met someone who completely changed their lives and set them on the path for greatness. For Zuko, it was Iroh. For Suyin, it was Bataar.
Anyways, this is just my theory.
Gotta be Sokka. I know people think this tarnishes his character but life is complicated. There may be circumstances that explain it. For example, maybe Sokka didn’t know and Toph didn’t say. Perhaps Sokka had just started another family and Tooh didn’t want to ruin that or maybe Sokka was fighting someone dangerous like the red lotus who might have targeted his daughter. Or maybe Toph was just being typical independent, stubborn Toph lol. If it’s true though, it’s lucky Tenzin dated the older daughter!
Sokka being Suyin's father would be great
She grew up in republic city, where both Aang and Zuko spent most of their lives. Even if Kitara wasn't around, Sokka and Toph wouldn't have been able to keep her a secret from Ang or Zuko. And there's no reason for them to keep quite while Toph made her daughters believe they didn't have fathers.
Now im curious if Sokka was with Toph or Suki🤔
There is a big chance that Suki is the mother of Izumi, Zuko's daughter. Because in the comics, Zuko and Mai break up again and Suki has a crush on Zuko and is his personal guard. So we don't know if Sokka married anyone.
@@demo2823 Yk that could be true
@@demo2823Im pretty sure thats not comfirmed and i think zuko ended up with mai because the scene when zuko and mai fell into the fountain the fountain was named Izumi
It could also be Satoru. Toph and him met in the Atla comics, The Rift more specifically I think. He was an engineer and he and Toph shared romantic interests in each other from what I can remember. He also had a similar look to Toph’s dayghting Suyin
Personally the mystery is what makes it better and not having a answer to it is more interesting or it could be that her dad was a nobody and even toph forgot
I at this point its easier to count the girls that WERE NOT interested in Sokka
Now that’s I’ve seen so many theory’s about this it does make sense because suyins attitude it similar to sokka and her skin tone is almost identical
That actually explains a lot with her personality but honestly her father needed to be in her life to discipline her ass and also give Toph an earful after what she did with tearing up the papers literally tearing up the family and making the older daughter hold the bag
I feel like a 9 year old’s crush wouldn’t lead to having a kid together 99% of the time
We don't know for sure if it's sokka, but her tanned skin does make sense for her dad to be from the water tribe
I believe that she is Sokkas daughter, but he never met her. Not because he is asshole, but considering Suki is also not really mentioned in the Korea series. Here is how I see it.
Sokka married Suki.
Toph gets together with guy 1.
Suki dies in childbirth.
Toph comforts Sokka after Suki’s death.
Sokka finds out he is going to be a dad, but is killed by the red lotus before he could celebrate.
Toph then hides it from Aang, Zuko and Katara as she isn’t the best at showing emotion.
Zuko probably assumes something but is forced by Toph to shut up.
If sokka was the dad I feel like it would be a donor situation or something close to that
Im guessing with toph her earth bending is a dominant trait thats why suyin has earth bending. It also explains why tenzin may have broke up with lin.Since he wanted airbending children
I always felt like suyin’s father was the duke. I felt like there were subtle sparks of a budding friendship/ romance in the last few episodes of the series
Wow, Suyin's hair does look like Katara a lot. 😊
Dolls bring suyin’s dad only makes sense because of the similar skin tone but that’s all. It makes more sense if he was bataar’s dad who not only has a similar skin tone but looks a lot looks him and has the same hair style and other factors like his and suton’s kids who share some of sokka’s traits
Suyin's second oldest looks exactly like Sokka, just with a very different haircut
Considering that would make her and Tenzin cousins, I think such a thing would’ve been brought up especially if Toph’s other kid was dating him.
Maybe uncle iroh when he was younger when he had a black hair
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I believe that sokka is suyin's dad and that toph was pregnant with her during the time when he was killed by the red lotus which could be the reason why she says to never ask about him because she either feels guilty for not being strong enough to protect him or she was that devastated when he died.
I think Sokka's a good candidate.
It was definitely someone from the water tribe due to the skin tone.
There was this kid from the comics named Sun. He looks just like Suyin
It probably was sokka but he didn’t know and she didn’t want him knowing for whatever reason
I always knew toph went on a blind date.
My guess is that Toph and Soka had an affaire and before they even reciprocate their relationship Soka died. So she probably didn’t wanted to sully the name of Soka so thats why she never revealed that information.
Here's a plot hole with that theory though. Tanroq, Korra's father, specifically said that Sokka was still Chief when the Red Lotus first tried to nab her @;6 y/o
I think . . . we don't know. If we're meant to know, they'll reveal it. What we do know, everything they do in this show is intentional to some extent.
My personal theory/-ies? Sokka is Suyin's father, but in order to make it work, they may have to retcon a few things and to make it that Sokka died immediately after. If not, Sokka may have had a family but, a certain group could have targeted it and killed them. As a popular theory states Zaheer could be the one who actually killed Sokka. I just hope we get some answers in the upcoming movie. At least some hint...
Sokka was over 70 when he died. That means that guy who was super family goes first for at least 30 years never meet his daughter when for long time they both lived in same city. And sokka isn't stupid I think he would add 2+2 and at least confronted Toph about baby 9 months after they" did something ". Sokka being so focused on his father and then completely abandoning his daughter sounds just wrong. I like that members of Gaang have some flaws like aang spending most time with one child or Toph being bad mother but that would ruin Sokka character imo
Considering how Sokka died, I can see why Toph didn’t want to talk about it to Suyin.
I would say not, heres my arguement, so when sokka sacrificed his space sword for toph, people say he did that because he liked toph, but heres my arguement, of course sokka would sacrifice a sword for a human soul, its like would you rather sacrifice your PS5 for your friend, Sokka is gonna choose the more important thing rather than an object, everyone would choose the latter.
maybe Sokka just never got over Yue
Im not saying its not possible but I’m also not saying its not possible like I see all this evidence but thing is
1. I feel like Toph wouldn’t keep Katara from her niece.. I also just feel like Sokka wouldn’t just knowingly abandon his daughter.
2. For example Lin’s dad was “just some dude named Kanto” like the chances are high that the same thing is with Suyin.
3. The chance of Suyin maybe being Sokka’s daughter just bc the have similar skintones is quite slim, there are also earthbenders with similar skintones.
And yes I understand Toph spent a lot of time with Sokka and did show interest in him for those reasons, I’m just gonna end this by saying it’s not impossible.
I personally like to think Sokka’s the father. It seems unfair that he’d be the only one out of the gang who didn’t have kids. Also, there’s the fact that Suki is never mentioned or even shown in the adult years, which makes me think that maybe she and Sokka only had a teen romance. 🤷🏽♀️ You know, the war brought them together, so it makes sense that they’d go back to their original lives and become distant.
Also, I like the idea of Sokka and Toph have a brief romance that was based off of years of friendship and getting through hardship together. Kanto just sounds like he was some random one-night stand that the writers came up with just they could give “something” to the fans. 😒 Also, there’s the fact that Suyin is clearly Toph’s favorite. And while I don’t agree with favoritism, I could totally see Toph treating the daughter of the man she loved with more maternal affection and treating the daughter of man that she didn’t necessarily care for with basic tolerance. 🤔 Just a thought.
And as for the whole Tenzin and Lin thing, it would be unusual but not necessarily wrong for Tenzin to date his cousin’s half-sister. After all, he shared a blood tie with Suyin, not Lin. Therefore, no lines would be crossed. It’s not incest.
Besides, it's not like Tenzin would have known anyways. When she found out he was dating her daughter, Toph probably didn't even tell him then. As long as he wasn't going out with the one he was related to she would think "eh, not my business"
The Last Airbender has a very Japanese Anime feel with lots of Chinese but also Tibetan, Siberian, Indian, mix.
Legend of Korra appears their world got Americanised.
I like this theory as it means Toph got to be with the boy she liked eventually but makes me sad too as it means Sokka and Suki didn't work out.
It’s probably sokka because her son looks like him and I doubt the creators would do that unless they were implying it and Aang was the first of team avatar to die due to health complications from being in the ice for 100years
Sure Sokka might be the farther he might not it’s only speculation and that’s all it will ever be until the creators say otherwise
In the comics. Toph met a Lavabender named Sun, who looks like a male version of Opal, Toph’s granddaughter. I think Sun is the father of Su
Toph is type 'Not to tell'
"Nice Man" = "Nice Guy"
Damn... I already know why it didn't work out. Sorry Kanto.
It's either sokka or that one dude she met during the old iron story
Idc what fans say and what theories they have, just bc toph had a little crush on sokka does not mean he is the father of her kid. A lot of characters had a crush on sokka, but that doesn't mean he's the father of all their kids. Obviously sokka and toph spent a lot of time together and were close, they saved the world together. Yeah suyin's skin color is similar to sokka's but that doesn't prove he is the father. I get it's just a theory but there are so many fans that legitimately believe sokka is the father bc they ship sokka and toph. It was never confirmed that sokka had any kids or even married anyone. If he did it was probably suki bc they ended up together in the end and even in the comics. We don't know anything for sure and it's nice to have theories but do not believe a unconfirmed theory based off what you wanted to happen in the show
Sokka×Toph forever!!!!❤❤❤❤
Maybe sokka and her boinked she got preggo and hid it from him cuz of his political career perhaps. Or maybe he got with someone else before she found out and she didnt wanna mess with that. Cuz if sokka knew hed definitely try to be there for them.
Its zuko as both had no relationships at the time and zuko is the only person who blushed who toph and toph also showed interest in him. Also suki is a really important character and I doubt that he would ever dump her
That would mean Toph either hid the pregnancy from Zuko or he knew and never told Su Yin
I think the blush was embrassment
Toph gave birth with a entire other verse and an entire region fr
Yes , that's a great theory , sokka definitely looks guilty
I don’t see it. No matter how you look at it, it’d ruin Sokkas character. He was with Suki. I don’t see Sokka cheating on Suki, because if he did, that’d ruin his character. And let’s say he and Suki broke up and he had a ONS with Toph, him abandoning his child (even if Toph tried to hide it) would ruin his character because he thought Su was his child, he wouldn’t just abandon her.
I don’t like the Toph x Sokka ship, just doesn’t work.
suki- 👁️👄👁️
The latest chapter of Metalbending Academy features a new dark skinned earthbender character, a boy who can lavabend named Sun. He also has a mop top style of hair cut (similar to Opal... in fact, the resemblance between Sun and Opal are uncanny). Toph saves Sun from falling debris during a building collapse after a fire is started from Sun's out control lavabending, and Toph tries to recruit him to join her Metalbending Academy. Sun could be Suyin's father instead of Sokka.
Never let this man cook
"Toph showed interest in Sokka" as a TEN YEAR OLD GIRL.
I'm willing to bet Sokka is her father, I'm more than sure it came out of a short romantic encounter after Suki died young and unexpectedly. It was likely a messy "break up" and either Toph never told him when she found out she was pregnant again or he died before he knew she was pregnant.
Again suki did not die young
@@oppositetwins_shorts Then how did she die? I find it hard to believe she and Sokka didn’t try to have a family together, but there’s no mention of him having kids and no sign of Suki as an adult with him.
@@inkyfreak well its a rumor of her dying young
@@inkyfreak also, how do you know she is dead?
@@oppositetwins_shorts she wasn’t with Sokka when he died, as far as I know she’s almost never mentioned after the war ended. Sokka didn’t have any kids as far as we know officially. What happened to her?
It must be something hard to talk about because it’s never brought up or questioned.
Plus Baatar Junior her kid literally looks like adult Sokka with glasses so clearly the chances of Sokka being Suyin's dad maybe high
Being Sokka’s kid would mean that Suyin and Tenzin would be cousins. I feel like that would’ve been brought up if that was the case and making his and Lin relationship more awkward and weird. Also I don’t see sokka breaking up or cheating on Suki.
If Suyin's father is Sokka...how would Suki found out about this!?
I was going to ask about Suki.
@@DavidProv that's what i was thinking!
Or what would Tenzin feel about dating his cousin's half sister???
This theory makes no sense
@@mertensiam3384 ah nuts. This is getting to confusing
I had a theory it was Aang, I was thinking when people started gaining air bending, it might be decided if they had air bending ancestors, and maybe Aang and Kartara had a rough patch and maybe Aang and Toph had an affair
Earthbender’s are likely to be light colored and waterbender’s are likely to have dark colors (i think)
I think Suyin's father is Satoru from the comics, assuming he isn't already the ancestor of the Sato family...
It’s most likely Sokka. Toph probably never told him because…well, she’s Toph.
I'm pretty sure there's more about Kanto ob the comics! I forget tho.