If The Fight Scene Really Happened In The End Of Twilight
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2024
- Say what you like about twilight, love or hate, it’s difficult to deny the overall entertaining quality of the fight scene in the end of breaking dawn. Ok yes it was just a would be vision of Alice’s but it really did have everything. It had heartbreaking deaths, satisfying deaths, atmospheric energy that just had our eyes glued to the screen or the pages in the book. Then it just cuts back to Alice informing Aro that what he just seen was his future and for the first time in millennia, Aro experienced the emotion of fear. I didn’t know how I felt after realising it was just a vision, I had already begun processing so many characters deaths and then it’s like, oh they’re all still alive. So I sat there and worked out everything that would happen if that fight really did happen, the repercussions, the aftermath and basically in a nutshell, how twilight would never be the same. So let’s take a look.
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I remember watching this scene for the first time in the theaters. Everyone in that room exhaled at the same time when we realized it was a vision
I just thought, what a waste of time, this is the biggest bs ever. Turns out Bella was just dreaming and there are no vampires. Edward is just a boy from her school that she's in love with. And Jacob, well, that's the name of his dog.
@@genki2705 ummm…okay
I remember everyone screaming when Carlisle died. 😂
I read the books and still screamed! A girl next to me yelled “oh BROTHER!” 😂
I would think that the good guys would finish off the rest of the Volturis. If, *IF*, the Cullens did take control, they would enforce new laws that vampire must b more merciful to humans, make eternal peace with shapeshifters/werewolves. And lead them all into a better future.
Werewolves are not shapeshifters. They are two different things.
The wolves stop aging when they change for the first time and only start aging again later in life when they learn to control the impulse and decide to sort of stop being a wolf, and renesmee ages quickly both physically and mentally up until she is about 7 years old and fully grown when she stops aging completely.
When a Quileute turns into a wolf for the first time, he/she stops aging. If you are 17years old like Jacob, you stay 17 years old for 100 years, 200 years... until there is no more vampires around. More vampires near their territory can cause the skinchangers to turn early in their life because their body senses a threat, but after awhile they learn to control their anger & shifting.
The main reason they may choose to stop aging is because the person they imprinted on died.
There are werewolves in the books but these are skinchangers(very well known and a real thing from several native tribes around the world, especially within my Norwegian culture and heritage.) many vampires can’t tell the difference and werewolves are almost a legend at this point that they can’t tell or haven’t seen one in so long (the three Volturi are all 3000 plus years old and Aro was meant to look 17-18, and I think Caius was meant to be the older one and Marcus was to be similar age. (And was going to leave the volturi and to keep him controllable Aro killed his own sister Dydime who was wife of Marcus because they were going to leave the coven; via other’s vampire powers to keep him emotionally bonded despite wanting to leave. The intrigue and ages of history wasn’t included in the movies sadly.)
If circumstances persist that means a skinchanger is also immortal until danger fully wanes.
I remember bringing my daughter and her friend to the special full day screening of all the twilight movies with my cousin. My daughters friend was sobbing and I had to whisper its just a dream sequence it's not what actually happens calm down. Then she realised I was right. Poor child was nearly devastated. But knew they'd have to do something like that for the film just to give the fans something they weren't expecting.
I'm sure jasper could have come back as is body wasn't burnt , the parts can be put back together , states in the books when the wolves story says the parts tried to put themselves back together.
And the vampires killed like James, Victoria, and the newborns etc all have their bodies burnt rather than just buried in the mountains
I was about to say this yeah, Jasper's body wasn't burned like Carlisle was so he could have been put back together.
and my caius to 😘
It was implied that Bella and Edward were about to die right after Aro. I'm thinking Emmett and Felix would be the last two standing.
question is who wouldve won the fight between the two
@@danteferraro9842 It would be Felix, unless he had a massive change of heart after coming out of the brainwashing.
yeah it would probably be felix@@Jenifer_R_
idk Zafarina and Benji had insane abilities. Benji could’ve burned them all. If it wasn’t for the overall cinematics I think the Cullen alliance would’ve swiped but ig Stephanie wanted a more even fight and something that would look good on the screen
Alice had passports made for Renesmee and Jacob because she knew Bella and Edward were going to die in the fight.Stephanie Meyer said Esme wouldn’t have survived. Alice only showed the parts of the battle that led unto Aro’s death but not what happened after. We don’t know how many Cullens survive but not as many as the movie shows.
Not all the Cullens would have died. Esme was still alive in the vision. So was Edward and Bella
@@crystalkennedy7435did you even read what they said? Lool
"but not what happened after" @@crystalkennedy7435
i don’t think bella & edward would have died, since this saga is based off a love story not rlly an action story it would’ve been kind of dumb to kill off the main characters but even if that did happen bella was the most protected vampire since she was a shield so without her the volturi would’ve easily won and bella was the strongest one out of all the cullens since she was a new born, I think the reason why they didn’t want bella and edward to go with renesmee & jacob was because the volturi would have found them easily putting them all in danger.
@@scullyeditsyeah but based on the books they would’ve dies and on the movies you can see 3 4 vampries surrounding Bella before Aro burned so she would’ve died. They made themselves targets by killing Aro
Edward and Bella were clearly about to be killed right after she torched Aro’s head. That would make sense since Alice made that guy forge fake IDs for Renesmée and Jacob, implying that they would be the only survivors.
The Volturi would be no more (besides from Felix and a few from the guard), and so would the shapeshifters (besides from Jacob).
That would make the story completely switch its dynamic: a war between different clans would ensue to claim dominion over the vampire world, and I totally see Jacob and Renesmée joining forces to secretly take back the reigns.
That would be exciting as they would avenge their fallen clans, and enforce laws that would reflect Carlisle’s values.
It would completely switch the tone from teenage SF love story to SF Cold War.
I'm gunna say it - I feel like the movies get a little more hate than they deserve
Agreed. Though the initial stigma was a product of the times. I read the books, they were better than the movies but then again they always are.
@@Kevinleehiltonjr yeah I think it’s not totally the fault of book to film adaptations though. I think there’s just an added level of detail and room for personal imagination that books provide that film as a medium can’t easily match
@@SimsinWonderland that's exactly it. Films will never be able to match it, there's too much nuance and perspective from characters that are capable of conveying their thoughts in a book whereas in a movie it would take away rather than add anything significant. Books are just able to be more in depth and detailed due to having no limits on the page amount whereas movies are limited by time.
Honestly, I truly love Twilight, and I'm not ashamed to say that. Stephanie did create an interesting vampire world. The only thing I truly dislike is the whole Jacob imprinting on Renesmee.
It always made me wonder that once Aro saw the vision, and was no longer touching Alice, that he just didn't use that insight to change his plans and still attack using what he saw to his advantage.
Because he wasn't aware that Alice's visions constantly change according to the decisions you make, he was convinced that if he attacked at that moment he would die lol
@@monica15326Sounds weak but if that's the case then it is what it is.
That wouldn't really work because as soon as he changes his plans Alice would know and so would Edward. This would allow them to use it to their advantage and still win. As long as Bella was on the battlefield the Volturi's biggest advantage Jane and Alec would be nullified but they would have no way to counter any of the Cullen's powers. I'm sure Aro knew there was no way to win that battle, thier only way forward would have been a sneak attack on Bella, but that was never gonna happen. She was the most protected and Alice and Edward would have seen it coming. Without Bella the Cullens would have been destroyed even with Alice's visions
This fight scene!! Got so emotional and hyped to find out it’s a vision it’s like the ‘can you imagine if in Harry Potter after deathly hallows it ended “and Harry woke up in his cupboard, it was only a dream”
I assumed that Bella and Edward died because dozens of vampires were jumping on them as Bella was lighting Aero on fire. I also assumed the whole Cullen coven was killed since Alice had Bella get the fake IDs for Jake and her creepy daughter. I assumed (as Bella did) that Alice saw they were all going to die. Lots of assumptions.
Her daughter wasn’t creepy. The films did their best to adapt an ethereal kid who rapidly ages toward a certain point and everyone falls in love with them. Not an immortal child. Those don’t grow up sadly. So yeah. Love your comment though. ❤
@Makkaru112 I love Twilight so much, but I think Renesmee is super creepy. From the start of her existence, she was sentient and naturally only caring about her protection. From the shell she was growing inside Bellas's stomach to (imo) using her skills to make Jacob Black imprint on her. It was all about her survival. She even bit Bella when she was dying on the table after giving birth to her. I just wish she wasn't part of the story. It makes me super uncomfortable. I absolutely love this story and these books aside from Renesmee.
@SarahHogan100 using her skills to make Jacob to imprint on her? It doesn't work like that.
@@Ariaa814 We dont know how she works. She is a complete enigma.
@@SarahHogan100 I'm talking about imprinting. Werewolves mates are chosen she definitely didn't make him imprint her.
the vision battle scene in breaking dawn part 2 was outstanding to me
We think it's what the vision in breaking dawn book is what Alice had
Why did you mention having “eyes glued to the pages of the book” when talking about Alice’s fight vision? It wasn’t in the book.
That is exactly what Alice vision is in the book. It just didn't tell it. Stephanie Meyer was all one of the directors on the last movie and she told them that what she vision Alice vision
Reliving Seth and Leah’s death made me break down. 😢
Realistically, there's no way bella and edward would have survived being attacked by all the guards jumping them just as aro is burning, the likely result is the volturri winning but with a lot of loss and damage to both sides.
Bella shouldn't have survived as long as she did even with her newborn strength. She had like 3 or 4 vamps on her at one point with their hands on her head and all they did was stand there for 5 minutes doing nothing.
@@dani-jm6wkthen you don’t know how the newborn thing works
Really loved this video! The editing has gotten so good!!! I'd love to see a video about what would have happened if Edward and Alice had accepted Aro's offer back in New Moon
Thank you, I really appreciate that, I put a lot of practice into editing techniques which is why I hadn’t uploaded for a while.
I need to read the full set of books again, right now I’m reading “Midnight Sun”
Is midnight sun worth it?
Not the “pages in the book” as the fight wasn’t in the book…
I will never forget watching this in theaters with my gf at the time and best friend.. I was CRYING. Man can’t even lie when it when back to the present I was in awe. They did that 👏🏾
i gasped in the theatre when i saw carlisle dead
Was the shield also on that skinchanger and Alice? Couldn’t she have pained the two infront of her or perhaps everyone around her until she was felled like going down fighting in a way? The author did a great job with the mini studio she worked with that brought to life Alice’s backstory as well as the stories of other characters including Jane and her brother. It was rather touching stuff to see even how much Jane was changed by the Volturi.
Why are the Cullens called the Olympic coven?
Because Forks is in the Peninsula of Olympia
Because they are from the Olympic Peninsula in Washington.
Nice video what if⚡️
I can't wait thank u....
Even after all these years I still tear up when the good guys are getting killed
Irina did what she did out of spitefulness and nothing more. But this vision battle was my favorite, especially Jane death. and we talked about it for about three days at work
as perhaps a congregation between all the covens, like in A Discovery of Witches. a timeline where all the covens have meetings to help maintain the balance of the supernatural world. I also doubt the night creatures would want to be known to the human world...possible difference could set aside for the greater cause. its fun to wonder..
I guess that just leaves Felix to take over the Volterry Coven. Since he the only left alive. He most likely would retreat with the rest of the vampires and rule over the coven. I can see Felix either, leave Bella alone and just forces on keeping the coven strong.
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“Battle scahrs”
If this was true then Charlie and Sue would have been devastated, and any other families of the wolves lost. I mean they would have lost their children. Yes Jacob and Renesmee would still be alive, so Charlie would have his granddaughter, but he couldn't let Renee know about her.
I don’t Bella and Edward would die,the guards would be wipe out easily by the duo
I think the romanian coven would team up with the egyption coven to rule the vampire world because that is their dream and they're probably sick of war and running away so they have to work together to accomplish their goal, besides the romanian coven are fine recruiting people. The cullens would have no interest in joining them but probably would work together once in a while time and just be friends..... Benjamin would be the most powerful vampire and be the head guard. Amun, vladimir and stefan would be the 3 leaders.... The remaining volturi workers would run away or be killed.... Words would get around and many would try to kill the 'new volturi' but Benjamin would be so powerful that eventually the 'new volturi' would be invisible and untouchable
The battle was not hard to read. It wasn't in the book.
I had never seen the scene where leah had sacrificed herself so that was extremely sad i was even in tears when i saw that and still are😭😭😭
It hit a lot bigger for people who read the books, myself included. Mostly because it was the only book I literally threw across the room because the whole book built up to the fight and then it was like, the author didn't know how to write a battle so I felt robbed of wasting all that time reading the books. The movie ending healed that book trauma for me. Lol. It was exactly what we wanted in the book and they REALLY took our emotions for a run. It was fabulous. I would have been a crying mess if I had read it, but in the movie it all happened so fast it was just...shock😂 Best screenplay rewrite of a book ever.
With the Volturi crippled or even extinct I can imagine the vampire community exposing itself through reckless behaviour fairly quickly.
Yeah, others have mentioned it, but I'll emphasize: as long as vampires aren't burned, they can be put back together. So I believe Carlisle and Jasper aren't gone, gone. Same goes for some of the Volturi. And the Cullens will realize that someone had to rule. The Romanians aren't suited either, they were just as bad as the Volturi. I think all the covens together will set up a more modern government.
As for Seth and Leah, that is a major loss. To be honest, I doubted that the latter would sacrifice herself for a vampire. Even it being Esme. But, as it is, I think the wolves would've withdrawn close to home and only protect their own.
My opinion after reading every book in the twilight saga like over a 100 times they just need to kill the volturi off
There are only 3 members. The guard are not part of the coven. They’re just strategically effected to guard the three. Marcus and Dydyme didn’t want anything to do with the coven anymore. Aro bloody killed his sister(Dydyme) & used that other lady to effect his emotions so he wouldn’t leave etc.
@@Makkaru112 yea I knew Marcus and Dydme didn't want to be there anymore. Aro knew Marcus was depressed bc his mate was dead but didn't really know how depressed until Alice vision in breaking dawn part 2.
Part of me thinks it would have been better if the vision actually happened. However, I also don't want Carlisle, Jasper, Seth, and Leah to die.
Where r u reading this? Because this scene is only from the movie and does not appear in the books at all... Alice just let's Aro hold her hand and she showed him what would happen if he continues with the decision he has made... is this something stephanie said in one of her interviews... or is there a new book out...
I actually don't remember the laws in Twilight very well... but they can come back to life after the head is ripped off if it's not thrown into the fire, right? In that case Carlisle and Jasper might come back... RIGHT? No one was setting fire to the bodies, and after the defeat of the three Volturi, the remaining ones would retreat or be defeated. All body parts would be organized and eliminated (Jane, Dimitri, etc.). This way the Cullen family would still be complete with all the members. So, after that, I think there would be a long discussion about who would be responsible for taking the Volturi's place. And I don't see there being a solution. A new book with the theme of clans fighting each other would be incredible. "Blood Moon". A war of a thousand dark days... 🤔
Caius torched Carlisle but I didn't see anyone set Jasper on fire
I'm surprised you don't mention of how seth and leah death would impact The pack
I think u should do a what if for Renesmay the Cullens did take control, not wanting whomever did to come after her or to stop the rumors that she is a immortal child, if the Culles can have an immortal child than every lonely vampire would make them.
Actually make BOTH what ifs, they rule/they don't
See Aro and Carlile were friends at one point so to have no mercy and just decapitate him seems harsh
See Edward is strong and fast and Bella is kind of a newborn but with how old and skilled Aro is I doubt they would be able to beat him
The movies made Edward look like a chump in battle. Edward was “UNDEFEATED” in the books.
@@Makkaru112 yeah see I just started the books I'm on the first one. But in the movie Edward couldn't even kill James his two brothers had to.
Everything went well.
Wouldn't Carlile and Jasper be able to come back since their bodies were not burnt?
Didn't the volturi burn Carlise body?
I think that the battle should have happened because everything has to come to an end at some point.
Wonder if the tv series will be more like the book or if they'll do this scene different again.
TV series? I hadn't heard about this. Tell me everything!
@Whisper_292 it was announced last April. As of right now they're just in the early stages of production. When reading the books the backstories of all the other vampires and werewolves/shifters were way more interesting and enjoyable to me. Yes we get it the love triangle between Edward, Bella & Jacob HAS to be there but showing all the individual backstories from the Cullen family, the volturi , the wolf pack and other vampires could be what makes the show instantly better than the movies imo.
I hope they don't make the TV series until she finishes the other 2 books. I hope Fred is in it and would be perfect for Tanya
@@mutantx2372 I agree. With so many characters, there are TONS of storied.
At the end of the fight likely the ones left alive are Emmett Benjamin (maybe) and Felix. As Edward and Bella were getting jumped on and implied to not make it out the fight. Could Emmett and Benjamin beat Felix? Yes. if Benjamin is dead could Emmett beat Felix? Nope.
Lmaooo marcus said come my friends😂😂😂😂 they bulldoze his ahh
Will we ever see the Twlight wolves again they need thier own movie or tv show
If this would have happened it would’ve made the movies more bearable to watch when I was forced to sit through each of them to please my gf at the time
Man the struggle for power make me wish the battle really really happen. The story will be far more interesting than the Twilight saga itself😂
Aro creeps me out
It's Esme that torched Aro
No it was Bella that torched Aro
@@crystalkennedy7435but thankfully it never happened
Alice shouldnt have even been able to see that battle since it had a whole pack of wereshifters involved in it.
Those two guys that attached the master are fools how can you attack someone that is more powerful than you.
It did seem like pandering to the fans the way that fight went. The Volturi went down way too easy for a group who have survived and thrived for so long, successfully eradicated one species and made a whole career out of putting down covens and killing other vamps.
There was way too much a sense of them floundering and being out of their element and waiting around to die for it to really sell as believable and the wolves could have been a factor in that if every wolf besides Sam wasnt getting their asses whooped.
The fight screen didn't happen in the book.
I thought the movie did bell's power dirty cause she was sssssoooo much stronger in the book. She protected everyone with her sheild... not even the black snoke could enter.....and she only had to cover the wolf leaders for all the wolves to be covered through their link.
Also they didn't have the talk with the guy nor did he mention his half sisters.
Who wrote your script - this scene was NOT in the book. That's the whole point of the outrage and hilarity amongst "fans".
Factss nomatter who won the war they lost so much on each side
Would Have Been, A Lot Of Dead Vampires And Skinwalkers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Didn’t happen in the book at all and I believe that is why they added it in the movie to scare us all lol
Vladimir is cute tho
teenage girls would’ve caused a riot
esme. alice, would want to die i think. or become shells like marcus. wouldn’t help. the remaining cullens wouldn’t be good rulers (bella, edward, rosalie, emmett (not even gonna include renegade).
the Romanians or Egyptians would try and take over, but it would not go well for humans, and maybe even vampires (with the humans weapons, nukes, flame throwers, etc).
the volturi ARE necessary. edward and alice’s gift are nothing on Aros, they wouldn’t be able to be judges, (if the cullens took over, and also decided to hold trials like volturi does) because they just can’t see as much of what happened (crimes committed to start trials) like aro could.
i imagine ALL the volturi died (the ONLY person i think that could MAYBE get away is reneta and possibly corin? not sure if their powers would even affect bella) but they probably would just run and hide, maybe join new coven in future or just become nomads idk
i guess it depends if jasper and carlisle were burned as well, or simply decapitated and could be put back together later on.
The Fight scene in the Movie did not even happen in the Book, yes there was a fight but not what was in the movie
There's no battle in the book at all
Um, that didn't actually happen in the book.
Чудовище, монстер. Его взгляд внушает мне страх.
Too bad the scene wasn’t in the book
honestly the biggest disappointment was that it didnt happen. ruined the series for me, all that build up for that ONE epic moment and it didnt happen.....so lame
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Still wouldn't save the Movie.
The whole series needed to be saved 💀
Yet you are here commenting.
The movie was fine.
I like Vampire Folklore videos@@eddieram435
It was the best of the series.
8:00 it's "affect" you dingus. Get an education will you.
How transparently miserable you are lmao.
Educate yourself "dingus". He's actually correct. Here is another way to remember when to use affect and effect: A is for action (affect); E is for end result (effect).
@@wht-rabt-objIdiot, affect is a verb, effect is a noun. I suggest you go back to school.
@@wht-rabt-obj Affect = verb. Effect = noun. Go back to school.