WHAT IS THE BEST PREMIUM GOLF BALL FOR AVERAGE SWING SPEEDS? The Ultimate Soft Ball Test & Review!
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- In this video, Luke at Weekend Tour Pros compares the four most popular Premium Soft Golf Balls used on the main professional tours (Titleist Pro v1, TaylorMade TP5, Callaway Chrome Soft and Srixon Z-Star) to see which one is the best for golfers with an average swing speed.
To complete the test Luke will hit shots with all four balls including:
1. A 10 yard chip shot with a 60 Degree Wedge
2. Pitching Wedges
3. 7 Irons
4. Driver
After each section Luke will look at the TrackMan data and talk you through the pros and cons of each ball for that part of the test.
At the end of the test Luke will also talk you through the durability and price of the Titleist Pro V1, TaylorMade TP5, Callaway Chrome Soft and Srixon Z-Star so you have a rounded view of all four balls.
Luke will then finish the video by offering some recommendations for average swing speed golfers, including an alternative option too depending on any concerns you might have.
So what is the best premium soft golf ball for average swing speeds?
VIDEO CONTENTS:
0:00 - Intro
1:49 - Test Overview
3:03 - 10 Yard Chip Shots
5:16 - Pitching Wedge Shots
7:50 - 7 Iron Shots
10:35 - Driver Shots
13:18 - Durability and Price
15:29 - Recommendations
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Great review and thank you! Today I became a subscriber and look forward to watching your future reviews.
Hi Patrick! Thank you for watching my video, for your kind comment and for subscribing! Welcome to the Weekend Tour Pros team! All the best 👍🏼
First time seeing your channel... what a delight, and very informative. Thanks
Hi JM B! Thank you for watching my video and for your kind comment! I’m still really new to this and it’s just a hobby on the side as a bit of fun! So I’m learning as I go and making a lot of mistakes but hopefully there’s some useful and relatable stuff in there! All the best 👍🏼
Love your channel. I'm a senior golfer and I use the Titleist Tour Speed golf ball.
Hi Ricky! Thanks for watching and for your really kind words! The Tour Speed was a good ball when I tested it! Enjoy your Sunday! 👍🏼
Finally someone that has a swing speed almost exactly the same as mine puts on a great video. Thank you! I am a 12.4 handicap,63 years old(almost) and I personally have played all but the srixon. Also have played the Bridgestone BRXS. Average drive or 230yds. I went back to the chrome soft in the middle of this golf season and it’s staying in the bag. Probably because I like the soft feel and I can hit this ball further and more consistent but again it’s just me. Thanks again for the video.
Hi Skol! Thanks for watching and for your kind comment! That is exactly why I started the channel!
It’s really interesting to hear your experiences with the balls - you’ll see from other videos on my channel that I’ve given the Bridgestone a go too recently and I am a former Chrome Soft devotee too so lots of similarities between us! It’s only the price of them today that puts me off them (as in I prefer the Pro V1 if I was paying £48 a dozen). Great to hear you’ve had a good experience with it though too!
All the best and thanks for giving my channel a watch! 👍🏼
Excellent job 👍👍. Keep the ball review's coming 😊
Hi Roy! Thanks for watching the video and for your comment! There's definitely lots more ball review videos coming soon! All the best, Luke
Great review well thought out and brilliantly executed at human speeds👍. I completely agree that these are the balls to test for those of us preferring a soft feeling ball (and ignoring those who think we should swing at tour speeds before being allowed to play them 🤨). It is very useful indeed, and great that you have chosen those four relevant brackets of test 👌. I personally have enjoyed the soft feel of the Chrome Soft for years, but the low iron spin numbers has me thinking about testing other options next time I need to buy.
Hi Niels! Thanks for watching the video and your kind comment! I also LOVE the feel of the Chrome Soft and was surprised by the lower iron spin! But the distances were good, so it’s a tough balancing act isn’t it?! I am going to do the X version test soon and I’m keen to see how Chrome Soft X comes out as I still find that ball soft compared to most others! All the best, Luke!
@@weekendtourpros Yes it's a difficult dilemma. Looking forward to seeing the "x"-test when it's done 🤓 It still needs to be playable outside and I need to loose a few Chrome Softs before considering changing...😁
That makes perfect sense Niels! And I hear you about needing to lose a few first! You won’t be surprised to hear that the easy present to get me at Christmas and birthday is golf balls! I have lots, because I lose lots! 😂
Good review Luke! I think if you got a bigger sample size, all the distance numbers on these balls would get closer. But the spin profiles would stay consistent: Chrome Soft spinning least, then Z-Star, then ProV1 and highest-spinning being the TaylorMade. That's the same as how they came out when I tested them. That new TP5 is just a very spinny ball, for some reason. I think the Tour Response is one of the best urethane balls for average swing speeds. The Vice Pro Soft is almost exactly the same ball for less money, also, btw!
Would love to see a similar test with, say, Titleist Tour Speed, TM Tour Response, Vice Pro Soft, and maybe Oncore Elixir. All those are $40 USD or less, low compression, but urethane covers.
Enjoyed the Break Handicap video, also!
Hi Daniel! Thank you for watching my videos(s) and for your great comment.
1. Totally agree that with bigger sample sizes the distances would have got closer - the Pro v1 for example suffered from being first (lesson learned to mix the order up next time!) and we are talking about 8-10 ‘good’ shots with each ball with each club - times that by 5 and I think you’d be spot on!
2. Glad you got similar results! Proves I’m not alone! Haha!
3. I play the Tour Response and LOVE it! First ball I’ve settled on for a couple of years now!
4. Would love to do this sort of ball test and given the popularity of this ball review I plan to do many more throughout this year! So thank you for your suggestion!
All the best and thanks again for watching! 👍🏼
Excellent...and seems like a totally unbiased review. Good job!
Thanks for watching and for your kind words Cliff! All the best! 👍🏼
Thanks for taking the effort to test . I am wondering if testing on course would be more effective as it’s also how the ball interacts with the air, not sure how you would do it. It would require a lot of ball fetching and possibly some lost balls. I have subscribed to your channel because you seem like a good bloke and we need more average golfers testing stuff, good luck with the channel and I look forward to Moore of your content
Cheers
Hi Ken! Thank you for watching my video, for your great comment and for subscribing to the channel! I would love to do testing on the grass! Sadly I don’t have one of these expensive launch monitors of my own to take out on the grass yet and think, like you say it would take even longer to do and my wallet would take a bigger hit buying enough of the balls to afford to lose some! 😂 But I’d definitely be up for trying it if I could! I do agree though, any indoor test like this doesn’t, for example, test how good the TP5 is supposed to be in the wind etc. All the best! 👍🏼
Really worthwhile test
What I would have liked to have seen extra would have been data from a club in the 19-22 degree loft range of club since the low spin nature of the balls can make it difficult to get some of these balls into a good flight window with average swing speeds.
Also it would be good to see a test of these "tour balls" to be put up against a ball that's been designed for more average swing speeds in mind like the Bridgestone B RXS / BRX which is still used on tour but by people like Lexi Thompson and Fred Couples
Hi Chris! Thank you for watching my video and for a really helpful comment!
I’ll definitely try to add in a 5 wood/hybrid/long iron type club if I have enough time in the simulator next time!
I’ve also had a lot of love for Bridgestone balls in general in the comments so I am desperately trying to get my hands on a sleeve of the various balls to test them too (they aren’t as popular or readily available in the UK sadly and my bank balance can’t stretch to buying a dozen of them all! Haha!). But please watch this space! All the best, Luke! 👍🏼
Great video nevermind the negative comments, you cant please everyone. Keep doing what you like its your channel.
Hi Kelly! Thanks for watching the video and the really kind comment! You’re absolutely spot on! Constructive feedback is a gift so definitely taking all the well intentioned stuff on board but you’re right, despite my best intentions to pitch it for the majority, unless I make a 2 hour video that sends you all to sleep it won’t cover every possible view point! 😂And I’m still incredibly new to this, so just trying my best to make some helpful, relatable content as a hobby and know I’ll make mistakes! But I’m trying my best! Thank you! Luke 👍🏼
Great video, liked and subscribed. For the average swing speed, I don't think people need the premium balls but we play them anyway lol. Would love to see the same test but with less than premium balls. i.e. Supersoft, erc soft, nxt, avx, etc
Hi H Purey! Thank you for watching and liking my video and even more so for subscribing - I really appreciate it! As for your comment, I think you are absolutely spot on! Couldn’t agree more!
Regarding your recommendations, I’ve added them to my list! I do this as a hobby for a bit of fun and only film 1/2x a month so it might take me a while to get to those balls as I’ve got 3-4 on my list already from previous comments but I want this channel to be relatable for the majority of golfers and as such I want to make the videos you ask for so I’ll definitely get round to doing them for sure. All the best 👍🏼
As an um, average swing speed player, Ballnamic sugggested trying the Chrome Soft X, Pro V1x, or Bridgestone BX. Presumably the higher launch and spin will keep the ball from flying out of the sky on irons.
Hi Alex! Thanks for watching the video and for your comment! Yes most ball checks I do suggest I should be playing the X version of these balls too so don’t worry that review will be coming soon on the channel! I just know a lot of people prefer the feel of the softer version of the ball so I started my 2023 ball reviews there! But more are coming soon and I’ll have you covered! I’m also hearing a lot of love for Bridgestone in the comments so I’ll be sure to include them in future reviews too! All the best, Luke
Really great job. I have 2 comments.
First, I think a longer wedge shot probably would have added a lot of valuable data.
And second, really nit-picking, it would be a great idea to alternate each shot with a different ball to eliminate any biases due to your swings, as you did mention differences between your first and last.
I appreciate the information!
Hi Rich! Thanks for the comment and the constructive thoughts - always welcomed! I absolutely agree about alternating the balls more, it does mean more time in the bay with back and forth to the computer but I think there’s even a way of hitting a few, alternating etc. because you’re right the biggest variable in all of this is me! Did you mean for the 10 yard chip shot to replace with like a 50 yarder (for example)? Thanks for watching! All the best 👍🏼
I like the z star and the q star tour think srixon are great option at great price. My speeds are pretty much same as yours so good to see a more normal test.
Hi Gordon! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! The purpose of my channel is to show, as you call it, more ‘normal’ golfer tests!
I agree, Srixon are fantastic balls at a fantastic price point compared to the other main manufacturers! I’ve actually bought a sleeve of Q Star Tour two days ago to film next time I’m in the studio! Keen to see how they perform! All the best! 👍🏼
Nice video. Keep them coming, including club reviews.
Hi R Adam! Thanks for watching my video and for your really kind comment! Don’t worry lots more club and ball reviews landing every week! All the best! 👍🏼
@@weekendtourpros thanks, i am new to the channel and just found out that you have done quite a few club reviews. Good. Cheers.
Thanks great review
Hi 62catdog! Thanks for watching my video and for giving my channel a chance! 👍🏼
When I worked as a marshal at a golf course I did empirical comparison testing of different ball by hitting straight, fade and draw shots from a fixed location to the greens on various holes, which served the dual purpose of dialing in my yardages for the different shot shapes and determining which shot shape was the best strategy to use for the shape of each green.
The most revealing test was progressively increasing the alteration in stance and face angles for hitting fades and draws in 15° increments from 15° to 45° to evaluate just how much a ball could be curved away and then back to the target. As might be expected there was a big difference in performance between premium and urethane and surlyn covered balls. To paraphrase Trevino, “You can talk to a Titleist (coax it back to target) but Pinnacle just won’t listen”.
How much would the ability to shape shots affect recreation golfers with average swing speeds? They would see a huge advantage playing premium urethane cover balls if shaping shots, but most recreational golfers don’t get a chance to practice enough to perfect that skill and don’t even try. I pity because it adds an entirely new strategic dimension to playing approach shots.
It would be interesting to see a “how much can it be curved” test of balls with actual measurements of swing path / face angles.
Hi Teddy! Wow that sounds like some comprehensive testing and work you did there!!! Amazing!
It’s a great thought process! Personally I don’t see many amateurs (particularly those of my handicap or higher) with the skill to move the ball both ways and whilst I absolutely think their skill level would increase if they could, I think too many try it on the course rather than sticking with one repeatable shape! Regarding how the ball comes into this, I think it’s fair that a more spinny ball like the Pro v1, does have more side spin too and as you say can add more curve to the ball. Like many in the comments have suggested, this might not be a good thing for less skilled golfers as it might exaggerate a slice or hook further… what’s your thoughts?
Great comment though and thank you for watching my video! All the best 👍🏼
@@weekendtourpros Thanks for the reply. I learned to shape shots shortly after I started playing back in the 1980s by reading “Golf My Way” by Nicklaus. This was before the “new flight laws” (i.e., learning 6 ways to miss) and Jack’s explanation of the cause and effect is the best I’ve ever seen. Curve in flight isn’t caused by “side-spin” (new speak) but by the spin axis of the ball getting tilted, which then affects lift and drag in flight like a banked airplane wing in a coordinated turn. That made the swiping action action across the ball required to create the curve easier to understand: a tight inside-out swing path with face aimed inside of center is needed to tilt the spin axis for a draw and outside-in swipe outside of center on the ball /target line is needed to hit a slice.
That helped me understand why I had a chronic slice-I was striking outside of center on the ball. At address I lined up a square face dead center on the ball-target line, but during the downswing the club force pulled me on my toes enough to move the club head outside the line and my subconscious reflexes tried to fix the problem by steering the face back square into the ball resulting in out-in path and face open to path slice. It wasn’t a swing fault but rather one of set-up posture and lack of dynamic “athletic” tension in the legs being able to anticipate and react to the increase in force when the club head mass accelerated down to the ball. It wasn’t until I was able to understand and correct that root cause - by understanding the cause and effect of what creates a slice - that I was able to hit any shot consistently.
The “old school” way of learning to shape shots is to start by changing only one of the variables - stance angle. Pick a target flag on the range and warm up by hitting as consistently straight at it as possible for about ten shots. Then open stance 15°, pick a target on that line and hit another 10 or so shots to groove swinging on that new line and coming up looking at the target in the distance 15° not at the flag. Coming up looking down the swing line, not at the target is one of the keys for shaping shots and coming up and turning to look at the target with eye line level is a difficult habit to break. Once everything is grooved to swing 15° left then start incrementally opening the face a few degrees, hit shots and observe the results. For example if using a 7 iron start by opening it half way between the loft of the 7 and an 8 iron, then equal 8, half way between 8 and 9, etc. From the 15° open stance line the ball will start curving back until it comes to rest near the target flag in the center. You wind up with an easy to remember / repeat combination like open stance 15° open 7 iron like an 8 iron when hitting into a green which runs left to right. Instead of aiming for pin or center of green you aim to land the all to the left knowing it will kick and roll to the right.
Hi Teddy! Thanks again for such an informative reply! This all makes a lot of sense! Something I’ll give a go when I get some spare time on the range! I definitely think there’s a lot of different ways to learn the golf swing and it’s about what works for you and you’ve clearly found something that’s allowed you to enjoy the game and maximise your skill set! All the best! 👍🏼
Very well done. I tend to use found balls, though.
Hi Ben! There’s nothing wrong with that! I’d be lying if I said I haven’t and don’t do that! I do think there is some benefit to playing the same ball (whatever that is!) once you get to a level where the cost/value is deemed worthwhile to you but until then keep doing what you’re doing! Thank you for watching my video and for your kind comment! All the best! 👍🏼
Nice comparison. Good job.
Hi Mike! Thank you for watching my video and your kind comment! All the best! 👍🏼
Nice review!
Hi dogsarefun2! Thanks for your kind comment and for watching my video!
Good stuff thanks
Hi Richard! Thanks for watching the video and your kind comment! All the best, Luke!
Another fantastic video Luke
Thanks nzfarmboy80! Thank you for watching and for another kind comment! I really appreciate your support since the very early days! Hope you are well pal? 👍🏼
@@weekendtourpros thank you, I'm doing good starting to play more golf instead of working 24/7
That’s great to hear! All in favour of that work life balance! Keep enjoying your golf! 👍🏼
finally someone to compare what all average players want to know about balls and swing speed. thanks
Thank you very much for the kind comment! Really appreciate it! That’s exactly why I started the channel and there’s plenty more content like it coming on the channel! All the best! 👍🏼
great review thanks! I would love to see a review of budget balls: Srixon Soft Feel, TM Distance+, Titleist TruFeel. Do these budget soft feeling balls cost us around the green? Do they really not spin on shorter shots? As a high handicapper, I've usually gone with budget balls because I lose so many. But as a high handicapper my short game always costs me a lot of strokes, so I'm starting to wonder what would happen if I play conservatively from tee to green (hit shorter clubs and lay up more often) so I don't lose so many balls, and use a better ball to hold the green on the wedge shots?
Hi Marcel! Thank you for watching my video and for your comment! That exact video is third on my list to film… at present I’m proposing to film a soft ball version and a distance ball version.
The 5 balls I’ve got for the first of those videos to film are the Srixon Soft Feel, Callaway SuperSoft, Titleist TruFeel, TM Soft Response and Wilson Duo.
I’m then thinking Srixon Distance, Titleist Velocity, TM Distance Plus and Callaway Warbird for the firmer more distance focused balls! I hope to have both on my channel in the next month or so! So keep an eye out!
Thanks for watching! All the best! 👍🏼
Nice little test. Regular swing speeds cover a lot more golfers. Definitely worth putting in a budget ball or two to see if there's any real difference at lower speeds. The other issue is indoor ball tests can't show the actual ball flight properly since a "model" ball has to be used to guess ball flight based on launch conditions. So if the dimple design or core effects flight of two different balls with the same launch condition there's no way an indoor test can tell them apart. Also, I wonder about spin off mats vs. turf. You could take the 2 balls that diverged the most out to the course and set up some shots to see how much different they actually behave.
Hi Thunder! Thank you so much for watching my video and for your great comment! You're absolutely right, with all these tests, particularly indoors, there's always only so much you can test, like the limited ball flight - I'm led to believe that the TP5 performs great in the wind where it's marginally smaller so you're spot on - we can't test that here! I'm also told that mats 'generally' reduce spin by about 1000rpm but as you say there's no exact science without testing it is there?! If I can get hold of a TM or GC launch monitor on the grass I'd love to test them like you suggest - so thank you for the great idea! Thanks again for watching! All the best, Luke
@@weekendtourpros The fantasy test I'd love to do is with both TM and GC on a fairway into a green from a few distances. Camera on the green. I always wonder how much spin and landing angle translate into stopping power in the real world. Like worst ball ever vs. Pro V1. You could also compare ball flight profiles between the devices.
I tell you what Thunder, that does sound epic! If I ever get the equipment in my hands I promise I’ll do it but you might need to give me a few years for the youtube channel to (hopefully) take off first! Haha! All the best, Luke!
Well done!
Hi Spud! Thank you for watching my video and for your kind comment! All the best! 👍🏼
Good research. Just a note: I bought a box of the Z-Star golf balls, four balls from the first six developed a crack around their equator. Srixon said this would make no change the playing of them. I put them all in my practice bucket. Very disappointed, ProV or Vice balls for me now.
Hi James! Thank you for watching my video and for sharing your own experiences! I’ve never heard of that before from any major manufacturer - maybe a faulty batch perhaps? I totally understand why that’s put you off them for life! If money isn’t the key factor in your buying decision, it’s always hard to beat the Pro v1! Thanks for watching! 👍🏼
I like that you have a similar swing speed. I am 85-95mph. I do notice I can't reliably hit the pro v1's and the chrome softs feel much softer but also shorter to me. I would like to have seen you also discuss accuracy, even if you concluded that it was your inconsistentency rather than the balls. Thank you!
Hi Frank! Thanks for the comment and for watching the video! Interesting observations from your own testing and exactly why we should all do our own! I’ve always found the Chrome Soft to be quite long but that’s just a feeling rather than any science! Tbh I think more spin does mean more curve as a general rule due to increased side spin so do think that is a plus for the Chrome Soft and Z Star. But I’ll note that for next time as I do think - like you suggest - ultimately my skill as a handicap golfer overrides the ball in that area! All the best! 👍🏼
Thx for your reply. Tbh I find if hard to watch some of the really good golfer reviews because I don't play that world lol! Thx again for being a mote regular type golfer.
I do notice some balls make a big difference in my accuracy. As in I slice or hook them all into the woods. I tried those "straighter" balls and they were slighly but also short so noy a good choice for me.
Thanks Frank! That’s exactly why I started filming these videos as a hobby! I love all the great golf stuff on UA-cam and still watch lots of other channels but just couldn’t find any truly relatable content so thought I’d make some and hope a few people found it worth watching too! 👍🏼
One thing - the carry distances for the TP5 in the 7 iron section of the test were probably held down by the amount those shots curved. With 20 feet of average slice vs less than 1 for the Callaway and Srixon, the TP5 probably went as far in the air, but lost a lot to sideways movement. In addition, striking the ball with an open face would have created a higher launch and greater peak height in addition to shorter distance - faded/sliced shots do that.
Hi Jim! Great spot and something I’d missed when looking at the data myself! I don’t overly recall hitting those batch of shots worse but I must have! I do rate the TP5 and it’s spin numbers throughout were strong and I hear it performs amazing in the wind (something an indoor simulator test won’t demonstrate!). Thanks for watching the video and your comment! Really helpful for others watching I’ve no doubt!
Good idea for a test thanks. Doubting the 7i and driver swing data abit but good you showed all the swings and their flight.
Would like to see test for tour response, AVX erc soft, tour speed and even velocity.
Hi 77bovi! I include about 95% of the shots I hit and only exclude the odd terrible strike which would skew the data (eg a chunked 7 iron that goes 120 yards or a pull hooked drive that goes 180 through the air - everything else stays in!)What I would say is that as a 12 handicap golfer I’m probably the biggest variable in the test so, especially with the top of the bag, I probably have a little more variability in strike etc. which will have some effect on the numbers! But that’s exactly why I do these tests so they are relatable for many! :)
The test you mentioned in your comment, would you like to see them tested against each other or just reviews of those balls? If it’s just a simple review I’ve got Tour Speed and Tour Response live on the channel already and the others are nearing the top of my list! If you want a comparison let me know specific match ups you want to see and I’ll add it to my list! Thanks for the great comment! All the best! 👍🏼
@@weekendtourpros will check those videos out!
Curious too about avg speed golfers and the "x" balls. Prov1x tpx5 chrome soft x or x ls. Since club golfers do benefit from more greenside spin.
Head 2 head is always good too 😀
I think impact "heat map" is important to show, there is a famous fitting channel that imo uses highly dissimilar impact locations in their reviews to compare new to prior gen drivers. E.g. tsr vs tsi.
Hi 77bovi! Thanks for the reply and for your requests! Super helpful! I want this channel to be all about making relatable content for likeminded golfers so I always do add your requests to my list and make my way through them. The good news is the “x” ball video is near the top now so should land in the next month or so!
When I do club reviews I always show the impact location on both clubs I compare for exactly that reason and explain where I think my strike has impacted the numbers! I’ve never thought to add it in for ball reviews but I will definitely have a think about that so thank you! Thanks for watching my channel! All the best pal! 👍🏼
Hi Luke Great Video 👍, 1st time viewer and really enjoyed your presentation👍, I liked your swing speed being just under 90mph was more representative of the average golfers👍, much more helpful than 300yrd testers, felt I could identify with my speed just under 80mph🤔, liked it’s unbiased test highlighting the benefits for average swing speed players👍, looking to chose the best ball for us, plus looking at durability so important (got 13 rounds out of a (2019) ProV1X, Thanks Dickey 9hcp 76year senior golfer
Hi Dickey! Thank you so much for giving my channel a watch and for your kind feedback and for sharing your own experiences! I started the channel for the exact reasons you called out - I love golf UA-cam but just felt there wasn’t enough content out there from people I could relate to, so I decided to have a go myself! I’m glad to hear you’re still playing, enjoying and searching for ways to get the most out of your golf game! 13 rounds out of a Pro V1x is impressive and suggests you certainly know how to keep it on the fairway! All the best and thanks again! 👍🏼
This helps me feel like I play the correct ball (Chrome Soft). I have never been able to create back spin when I need it. So I have no delusions that spin is what is effecting my ball.
Hi BuffaloSoldier! Glad the video helped! Thank you for watching! 👍🏼
Great content. Thank you. Subscribed.
Hi Noel! Thanks you for watching my video, for your kind comment and for subscribing! Really appreciate it! All the best! 👍🏼
@@weekendtourpros I swing 100mph driver swing, around 260 yards..I have low ball flight for my irons. Based on this, which ball would you pick and ball that's good value based on my info?
@giomusah2155 Hi Gio! Thanks for watching and for your question. It’s hard to give a definitive answer to that based on the limited information because price point, feel and spin profile are all important factors… what I can say is that I’m a low ball flight player and little slower than you and I’ve been really impressed with the Callaway ERC Soft and Srixon AD333 (or Q Star if you’re outside the UK) in terms of all round performance at a good price point… and I have gamed the Bridgestone Tour B RX for a while now and enjoyed that!
In terms of Premium balls, if you’re happy to pay those prices or pick up a 3 for 2 / 4 for 3 offer then I’ve been super impressed with the new Wilson Staff Model and Model X (but not filmed my review yet so haven’t seen the Trackman data to back up my feelings!) and it’s hard not to be tempted by the Srixon Z Star at the slightly more friendly price point. I do love Pro V1 too but only play it when I get bought them as a gift!
Not sure if that helps at all?
@@weekendtourpros Thanks. what shafts do you use
@@giomusah2155 in terms of flex I’m Stiff in driver and fairway woods and then regular in irons and wedges. I have a full what’s in the bag video on my channel where I talk through each club! That might be worth a watch! I’ve got a new one coming soon as I’ve changed one two clubs slightly but it’s still very accurate in terms of shafts etc!
Of these four, I would pick the Callaway Chrome Soft, because of the feel: TP5 88 compression; Pro V1 87 compression; Z-Star 84 compression and the Chrome Soft 72 compression. I prefer hitting a softer ball. My favorite ball to play is the Srixon Q-Star Tour though, at 67 compression, and a bit easier on the wallet than these balls!
Hi Jim! I hear you! I’ve always preferred a softer feeling golf ball and it’s taken me a long time to even play a golf ball in the high 70’s/low 80’s. I’m keen to test the new Chrome Soft and Chrome Tour when they land shortly! As for the Q Star Tour, it’s a brilliant ball! I reviewed it on my channel and was really impressed. I say this a lot but I think Srixon are so underrated in the golf ball market! Thanks for watching my video and all the best! 👍🏼
Thanks for a great vid very interesting, do you think we handicap golfers should be even using these balls, I’m thinking side spin on poor shots sending the ball further of line on poor hits than a harder ball?
Hi Richard! Thank you for watching my video and for your comment! I think that’s a fantastic question! I personally don’t play any premium ball at the moment because I think it would upset me and my wallet too much with how many I lose 😂 and think your comment on side spin is really valid! It’s a really tough balancing act isn’t it between wanting to play the best ball that gives me more consistency and control vs. not having too much of a good thing! I think the premium firmer balls (the X versions) might be that sensible middle ground and I’m going to repeat the test with those balls soon! Would you play a premium ball or not for the reasons you suggest? All the best, Luke
@@weekendtourpros I play the Callaway Warbird to be honest I find it suits my game and don’t mind a harder ball, my ball speed with the driver is 150 mph and any wayward shots can go a long way off line so I need to keep it in the short stuff as much as possible lol
Sounds like you’ve got the perfect ball for you Richard! I’ve heard good things about the Warbird for the price point it’s at! Thanks again for watching and great to speak with you! All the best!
Great video and we should all do a ball fitting as we have different launch angles and spin independent of our swing speeds so different balls could be best for different individuals. Choose the best for you and then play it, as seen playing what ever ball we find will give us significant different flights distance and stopping power.
Hi Colin! Thank you for watching the video and for your great comment! I totally agree! We all swing it very different with different ways to achieve similar distances! Sadly ball fittings seem to not be offered much here in the UK (if at all) and comparisons across brands are hard to find so what was the purpose of the video - to hopefully narrow it down for some golfers! As like you say the best ball will be different for every golfer! All the best, Luke 👍🏼
Would have loved to see the Pro V1 to the TP5x or the Pro V1x to the TP5. Seems closer as far as noted spin rates are concerned.
Hi Mike! I’ve added it to the list! I’m planning on repeating this video soon where I take the X version of all the balls and put them side by side. After that I’ll have some spares of the Pro V1x and TP5x so try to make this video for you and others! All the best! 👍🏼
Mate.. off the charts awesome!!!
Hi Lou! That’s really really kind; thank you! Made my day! Thanks for watching and have a great week! 👍🏼
@@weekendtourpros - If you have time, a few other premium golf balls to try. Titleist AVX, Bridgestone Tour XS, and Callaway Chrome XLS. I found depending on the golf course conditions, these golf balls perform remarkably. I recently switched from PRO V1 to AVX and found it to go as far as the PRO V1 off the driver but longer on mid to high-iron shots. AVX spins a bit less around the greens than Pro v1 but I adjusted my short game for this. The best golf ball I have ever put with is the Bridgestone. I don't know what they do, but in my opinion, it's the best-balanced golf ball and it rolls true. Callaway XLS has a great feel of a soft golf ball, Long to mid irons this ball goes a looongggg way and around the greens, it has good performance but due to the low spin, some golfers may find it may not have enough spin. Also, the Bridgestone and Callaway are priced cheaper than other premium golf balls for those who are cost conscience. All the best!
Hi Louis! I’ve got the Titleist AVX ready to test the next time I’m in the studio as it’s been requested a lot! I’ve also got the Bridgestone Tour XS to test - I’m probably not the perfect test subject for them though as my swing speed isn’t over 105mph as Bridgestone recommend but will definitely give it a hit! As for the Chrome Soft XLS I’ll add them to my list! It’s great to hear your positive experiences with all three - I’m sure that means they’ll be others out there who love them too! All the best to you too! 👍🏼
@@weekendtourpros well if the Bridgestone is not a option how about the Wilson premium staff triad golf ball. I never played it but one of my group members recently switched from callaway to it and raves about it..
Hi Lou! I’ve got a review of the Wilson Triad golf ball already live on the channel! And I’ve got the Staff Model on my list to test soon! 👍🏼
I find the TP5 performs much better from 100 yards and in which definitely shows up in lower scores for me. Pro V1 is my second choice.
Hi Coo Bay! Thanks for sharing your experiences and for watching the video! Really appreciate it! 👍🏼
I use a Vice Pro. For $32/dozen, that is hard to beat. Plus it has great colors.
Hi Boone! I really need to test the Vice golf balls! Like you say they are great value for money and I’ve heard a lot of people really enjoy using them! Sounds like you’ve found a great ball for you! Thanks for watching 👍🏼
I've gone from 4 handicap to 6 over 25 years and always used Wilson ultra distance and Wilson dx2.
Hi D33ZNUTS (great username btw! Haha!). Thanks for watching my video! A lot of people, across many of my videos, have spoken highly about Wilson golf balls so your experience doesn’t surprise me at all! 👍🏼
@weekendtourpros Thanks 😊
I was watching to upgrade possibly,
The new wilson balls are highly rated, but only available in the USA..
The prob with Urethane balls and a 10 hcp player is that hitting the fairway is much harder with a high spin ball.
Hi Elmer! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! Absolutely - more backspin also means more side spin! It’s such a tough balancing act isn’t it! Distance vs control Vs feel? All the best! 👍🏼
Much attention is paid to forgiveness in golf clubs for the average golfer but nobody looks into forgiveness in golf balls. I do believe softer compression balls are more forgiving on mishits where there is inconsistant energy transfer from the club. I play the Z-Star and find it's great on good days when I'm swinging well but on days when I swing poorly I find soft compression Wilson Duo Soft+ balls work much better for me. Less curve, goes further on mishits and works out quite a bit cheaper too.
Or maybe it's all in my head, lol.
Hi Zahimi! What a great comment! Really sensible and logical thought process! I definitely think more spin doesn’t just mean more backspin but it also equals more side spin and therefore more curve! So I think it’s a logical conclusion!
I’m planning on testing more soft/low compression balls in the future and will see if I can validate this thought! Btw I loved the Z-Star so get why you are playing it and also I’ve used a dozen of the Duo Soft+ before and liked that too! So great choices IMO!
Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! All the best! 👍🏼
The Bridgestone RX is a tour quality ball for swing speeds lower than 105mph with driver.
Hi Ed! Thanks for that info! There seems to be a lot of love for the Bridgestone balls in the comments so I’ll be sure to add them to testing in the future! They are not as popular in the UK so didn’t think to include them this time! Thanks for watching the video and your informative comment! All the best, Luke!
@weekendtourpros the RXS is a bit softer than the RX and the best option IMO
@@mikemoodie thanks Mike! There’s a lot of love for both models in the comments so I’m going to try and get hold of both (not as readily available in the UK!) and do some testing with them! Really helpful from you, Ed and the others who have mentioned them! Thank you 👍🏼
hi
have you done the video for comparison between tour response and bridgestone tour r bx yet?
cheers
Hey! I haven’t filmed it yet but it’s on my list to do in the next 2-4 weeks! Sorry I’ve not got round to it yet! Thanks for the comment! :)
@@weekendtourpros no problem. i’ve only recently found your channel and it’s fantastic. something us mid handicappers can really relate to 👍
That’s really kind of you, thank you so much! It’s also exactly why I started the channel! Have a great day! 👍🏼
I've used all sorts of different balls from Prov-1, AVX, Chromesoft, Srixon, Bridgestone, etc. and I see pretty much zero difference in distance and playability and I shoot the exact same scores regardless of the ball. In tournaments I like the AVX, Prov1 and Chromesoft because they feel pretty good putting but it probably wouldn't matter too much what I use. My swing speed is right around 100 MPH though. I think when you get up to around 110 MPH tand more hat's when you need to start really looking at the ball you're using.
Hi Joel! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! I think you’ve hit the nail on the head for me when you say you see zero difference on the course. I personally am not skilled enough as a mid handicap golfer to tell if the ball is the cause of the flight or my strike (and as a result I assume it’s the latter). I do think that’s where sometimes ignorance is a bliss as when I test these balls I can see that they do perform differently so sometimes I think it’s better not to know! 😂 like you though, I pick my ball based on feel and value (best quality for the price I feel comfortable paying knowing I lose them!).
I do genuinely think that there are a few misconceptions with balls though… it’s the only piece of equipment we use on every shot and it’s also one of the cheapest things to buy in golf and I definitely think some people are willing to spend £500/$600 on a new driver to gain 5 yards when often playing the right ball (not necessarily a premium one!) or even the same ball consistently can achieve this for a fraction of the price. What are your thoughts???
Great comment and thanks again! 👍🏼
Got some tour softs on sale, will see how they get on.
Ah nice pwrcritter! Best of luck with them, let me know how it goes! 🤙🏼
Great review. Very refreshing to see someone that has the same swing speed I do!
Hi Dmkfactor! Thank you for watching my video and your kind comment! That’s exactly why I make these videos! Like you I struggled to find videos from golfers like me so really pleased that so many of you can relate! All the best, Luke!
The average golfer swing speed is around 85-95. Except for the Chrome Soft these tour balls and many others not compared here are for 100+ and up. The average tour player is around 115-120. Tour balls also spin more so tour players can stop the ball on the green and fade or draw as they see fit. The 5 and up hcp golfer, can't effectively control a fade or draw they struggle with just staying in the fairway or hitting a green. The reality is high spin balls will slice and hook more than low spin balls, and are just plain harder to control for 98% of golfers.
This video was very well done and he did mention it was for someone who want's to play a premium ball no matter what. Just remember, tour balls are premium balls designed for professionals not the public. Chances are you would be bettor off with compression suited for your swing speed and spin rates that help you hit the ball straighter. Wink, wink they are also a lot less expensive.
Hi EJD! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! I especially appreciate your kind comment about the video being well done and recognising it was for people who want to play a premium ball no matter what! Thank you!
On your points, I absolutely agree with you! I don’t play one of these balls… I game a TM Tour Response which I love for all the reasons you called out. As an FYI I plan to test more of the golf balls targeted at average swing speeds in the coming weeks. I actually have a video of the Bridgestone Tour B RX and RXS (the two balls designed for Driver swing speeds below 105mph) going live tomorrow which I hope will appeal to lots of people to! All the best! 👍🏼
@@weekendtourpros Take a look at the Maxfli Strightfli. They actually do help you control that annoying fade or draw that can get you in trouble. To me the most important thing is hitting the ball straight and these help do that. 80 compression is perfect for a 90-100 swing speed.
Thanks for the recommendation EJD! I’ve added them to my list to buy and test! Might be a couple of weeks as I’ve got a bit of a backlog but I’ll give them a go! Thanks! 👍🏼
im not sure of my swing speed so im not helping much.. but i can say, the lesser spin balls like the prov1 and the AVX are great for my driver (i hit a big slice with spinnier balls, but these seem to go straight or be a true baby cut), however irons seem to struggle with that harder less spinning ball. any suggestions?
Hi Blake! Hard to say for certain without all the data on your swing but in my experience of recent testing I’ve found that most balls all spin quite low with the driver these days and there’s not a lot in it whatever ball I test (there’s loads of ball reviews on my channel that will prove this at my swing speed).
In terms of irons, ultimately the premium constructed balls do spin more but there’s a balance as you say as the swing speed becomes slower that you may not be able to compress them as much where they are harder and not get the benefits of the potential spin. I would also say spin on its own isn’t everything with irons… if you can get a lot of height with a ball and get it to come in with a steeper/higher land angle and relatively good spin you’ll find it stops just as quickly, sometimes quicker and that’s where a slightly softer ball may help if your swing speed is lower.
The highest spinning iron balls I’ve tested outside of Pro V1 are TP5 and the Kirkland ball but both came at a slight distance loss for me where they were too spinny and they are both similar firmness to a Pro V1. Maybe a sensible option for you to try is something in the ‘mid-firmness’ category - not as firm as the balls in this test but more so than something really soft. I’m thinking Bridgestone Tour B RX, Titleist Tour Speed and Wilson Triad. I have reviews of all of them on my channel!
If you find they are still too firm I really like the TaylorMade Tour Response. If anyone asked me which ball they should try if they swing it like me then I’d pick that ball all day. It’s brilliant (and I don’t game anything else TaylorMade so I say that objectively!). Hope that helps Blake and thanks for watching my video and for the comment! 👍🏼
@@weekendtourpros thanks for the reply! Like i said, im not sure my speeds, but im mid twenties and feel its at least average if not a little higher for an athletic male. I've noticed a ball such as the prov1 or the avx is longer and straighter with driver, but a ball such as the bridgestone e6 (feels softer) is much better for the irons. they seem to go the true distance, more pure shots, higher, etc.. ill have to give the tour response a try!
Hi Blake! No problem at all. Yes I’d be surprised if your swing speed is lower than mine if you’re younger and sound far more sporty than I am! I definitely think it’s worth trying the ones I recommended. The Bridgestone E6 is VERY soft so you might even find that something like the Bridgestone Tour B RXS (green package) is a good one to try too. It’s also quite soft, not as soft as the E6 mind, but has a premium construction very similar to the Pro V1. 👍🏼
@@weekendtourpros awesome! ill have to give them a try starting with the cheaper options first lol. thank you so much for the help, subscribing now because of your generosity!
No worries! Let me know how you get on! And thank you for subscribing, that’s really kind! 👍🏼
I'd love to know the lofts of your clubs. Thanks
Hi Randy! At the time of filming this video, the clubs used and their lofts are:
1. Driver - Ping G410 Plus in 10.5 degrees set up standard
2. 7 iron & Pitching Wedge - Titleist T200 (2019 model) at 30 degrees and 43 degrees (both are standard lofts as the set came)
3. 60 degree wedge - Vokey SM7
Hope that helps! Thanks for watching and for your question. 👍🏼
Fortunately I source all of my PV1’s from the golf course!
Haha love that! Brilliant comment! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! Made me laugh! All the best 👍🏼
Did u hit the pro V first every time?
Hi Marcus! Thanks for watching the video and for your comment. Yes, I did try to cover this in the video in the test overview, durability review and some of the data walkthroughs (but maybe not well enough!) as I naturally sped up a little with each club as I hit more balls the Pro v1 being first had a slight disadvantage in hindsight. I did always hit a few with it not included in the data sets to warm up with that club but it’s still a valid point and always the risk with any human test! I think the Pro v1 showed it’s quality despite that disadvantage though! Thanks for the question and I hope that helps! 👍🏼
Thank you 🙏 lefty. 😌
Hi Emirofshmoe! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! All the best! 👍🏼
How are you getting 20+ ft of run out with a pw and 60+ with 7i?
Hi SuperDuper Awesome! Tbh I rarely look at the roll out with any launch monitor other than to compare two batches against each other to see which had more/less roll. I’d therefore always suggest taking the actual rollout numbers with a pinch of salt as the simulated fairways greens never match reality IMO.
For example I do a lot of club testing and spot that I get about 60ft/12 yards of roll normally on TM when I test 7 irons and I never see that much roll on the course even in firm summer conditions.
Thanks for watching my video though and for your comment! All the best, Luke
@@weekendtourpros I was surprised because your other numbers were good.
Yeah it’s a really weird one, I can only assume that the fairways are setup by default to run like US Open greens!!! Otherwise it makes no sense!
I’ve used a Trackman, GC Quad and Mevo+ and found them all to be really excessive with roll/total distance. Helps when you’re on the simulator and hitting driver but not in these tests so I tend to not focus on it! Otherwise they are all fantastic… thanks again for watching! Have a great day!
Because he’s generating absolutely no speed and spin mate
Hi Andrew! Thanks for replying to the comment! Whilst you’re absolutely right, the average swing speed player like myself doesn’t generate enough speed or spin, the point about TM roll out is different though and why most trusted experts all talk about carry only on launch monitors and then use peak height, spin and land angle to measure control rather than the roll out on the launch monitors. Obviously comparing two data sets together it gives some indication relative to each other but that’s about all I use it for! It is great when you play simulator golf though and the driver rolls 20 yards further than it ever does in real life for me! 😂😂😂
Maxfli straightfli is my pick for slower swingers...
Hi Vintageswiss9096! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! I’ve never tried a Maxfli ball as we don’t tend to have them in the UK (to my knowledge!). Are they good then? Should I try and get my hands on some? All the best! 👍🏼
No Bridgestone Tour B XS ? 🤔
Hi Daddy Harry! Thanks for watching the video and your comment! Definitely looks like I’ve missed out the Bridgestone as there’s been a lot of love for it in the comments. Sadly they aren’t as popular or readily available in the UK! When I researched for this test I picked the top 4 most used premium brands on the PGA Tour and the Bridgestone was 5th so just missed out! Lesson learned and I’m already trying to get hold of some! Thank you though for suggesting it! All the best, Luke 👍🏼
Z-Stars can frequently be found on sale for less than half the price of Pro V1 - no brainer!
Hi Kyle! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! I think all the balls are great and will suit different golfers but I must admit the Z-Star impressed me the most in this video because it was the ball I probably knew least about! All the best, Luke!
Early in the season Dicks usually has a 2 for one deal on Sirixons in my area, can’ beat that with a stick.
Sounds great Daniel! Can’t beat value like that!
I have better results with ProV1X & TP5X 95mph swing speed.🤔
@@petemajor5693 Hi Pete! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! That doesn’t surprise me! I’ve had great success when I’ve been gifted a sleeve of each of those and plan to repeat this test with the X version of all balls soon!
Of these 4 - the BEST for the average swing speed, average weekend golfer - whichever one is CHEAPEST when you're stepping up to buy. Every week when my buddies and I play, we find several "premium" balls that look like they were hit one time.
Hi Mitch! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! I definitely agree that price is a consideration for most! I don’t play a premium ball for the reason that you say! I lose too many! Haha! All the best 👍🏼
Aww screech I loved you in saved by the bell
😂😂😂 Andy that’s a new one I’ve not had before! I can assure you with my hat off the hair is very different but I do think the noses are comparable! Thanks for watching the video and for your comment - it made me laugh!
@@weekendtourpros thanks for the content, I am glad I stumbled on it
@@boxfullofneutral8514 Hi Andy! That’s really kind, thank you! I’m really new to this (so learning a lot and making a lot of mistakes on the way!) and just trying to make some content that is relatable as despite loads of brilliant content on UA-cam I couldn’t find enough by golfer like me! All the best and thanks again for watching! 👍🏼
@@weekendtourpros stick to what you love and be true to yourself, I prefer it. Build it and they will come as the saying goes, good luck
You can hear the different sound of each ball when you hit it.
Hi Kohl! Yeah I absolutely agree! I sometimes wonder if you’d notice it outside on the course, with long game shots but it’s really interesting how different they sound! It can make a difference to what you prefer! Thanks for watching the video and for your comment! 👍🏼
What about the balls with the thick black circle around them that say…RANGE? At 72 yrs of age, I seem to hit those the best!
3 Putt you win comment of the month! It really made me laugh! Haha! You're right though, why is it that we always hit those ones best?!? You've given me a good idea for a video though! Range ball vs. Premium ball, just how different do they perform - so thank you! Keep enjoying your golf and thank you for watching my video!
Why play a premium ball at a premium price for the weekend warrior golfer when there are way cheaper options out there that will perform as well as the premium balls for 1/2 the price? I am talking balls from Vice, Cut and Kirkland. I played the cut Blue last year and they performed very well. I finished out the season using Vice balls as Golftown had run out of the Cut blue that I was playing. Was also very pleased with that ball. To note, shot the lowest round of the year with the Cut. Here in the Great White North these balls can be had for $24.99 on sale to regular price of $30 bucks a doz compared to the Srixon @ $49.99/doz and the Pro-V1 @$64.99/doz. No brainer in my mind as, let`s face it, the average golfer is going to loose a few or more over the course of the season 😁🏌♂ Whack......F~@K FOOOOOOORE...😂
Hi Devolution! Thanks for watching my video and for the great and informative comment! It’s a really fair and valid question! I think the answer all depends on how and where you like to spend your money and the value you feel you’re getting. I personally don’t play a premium ball because it hurts my wallet too much when I lose them! 😂 But there are loads of average golfers out there who do want to (or already do) because they see playing a premium ball as giving them one more thing likely to make golf more enjoyable for them! I think we therefore all see it differently! I do think the direct to consumer offerings and the less well established brands like some you mentioned are the value options here and totally agree with you but in my opinion there isn’t enough brand reputation yet for people not looking to do their own testing or research to give some of them a go, what do you think? Great comment! All the best, Luke 👍🏼
You need to compare a tour ball with a 2nd tier ball (like the Tour Response by TM) and a 2-piece soft ball (like the Callaway Supersoft). Most players should NOT be playing a Tour ball. They can't compress it enough, it spins too much, and it launches too low. Also, they can't even take advantage of the spinny covers.
Hi Rich! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! I do already have a video on my channel reviewing the TM Tour Response and comparing it to Pro v1) and given the success of this video plan to do a lot more ball reviews as there seems to be a lot of appetite for them! I also plan to review some of the mid and lower priced balls (as they are cheaper on my wallet to buy! Haha!) All the best 👍🏼
Should have added Bridestone to the mix.
Hi Jeff! You’re definitely not the first to suggest this! I picked the four most played brands on the PGA Tour and the Bridgestone was 5th but don’t worry I’ve got them on order and that test will be coming soon! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! All the best 👍🏼
@@weekendtourpros Would have never guessed that Srixon was ahead of Bridgestone.
@@cedwards889 to be honest it’s really marginal. Titleist, TM and Callaway I think were about 98% of the balls when I researched. I think you’ve got about 3-4 using the Srixon (Hideki, Shane Lowry etc.) and 1-2 using the Bridgestone so not a lot in it! But don’t worry the review on the Bridgestone is coming soon! Thanks again for engaging! 👍🏼
What about Bridgestone
Hi Juan! Thanks for your comment and for watching the video! The Bridgestone just missed out in this test as I picked the four most played balls on tour and the Srixon just crept in. However I’m hearing a lot of love for the Bridgestone in the comments so I’ll be sure to get my hands on a sleeve and add them to future tests! Any particular Bridgestone model you’re keen to see tested?
@@weekendtourpros I usually play the x, less spin.
Thanks Juan! Really helpful! Lots of love for the BXS in the comments too so I’ll try and get my hands on both and test them in future! Thanks for replying and your helpful feedback! All the best 👍🏼
What’s the verdict?
Hi Kidze! Thanks for watching the video and your comment! I give my recommendations at 15:29 onwards! I think the best ball depends on what you need from a ball but in short, if you need your ball to offer more spin = TP5, less spin = Chrome Soft, best value = Z Star and best all rounder = Pro V1. For me personally I’d probably play the Srixon or Pro v1 in this test but prefer the feel of Chrome Soft. Hope that helps? All the best, Luke!
Like others have said mate, you are not compressing the balls enough and the spin is way to low for you. Maybe look at an AD333 or the like
Hi Andrew! Thanks for watching the video and your comment! The purpose of this video wasn’t to find the ‘perfect’ golf ball for me (I know none of these are!). It was to try and help other golfers with similar swing speeds who want to play a premium ball AND know they prefer the feel of a softer golf ball and don’t have the means to test lots of different balls, so hopefully this narrowed it down for them… and I think I’ve achieved that given how many positive comments there has been! All the best, Luke 👍🏼
Gosh I find so many ball's where I play. It is hard figuring out what to do with them...must have 500 of them...Pro V1 players must not ever look for them. You have to beg people not to buy you any for holiday gifts....In any case the only ball I do not like is a Nitro...can't tell the difference in the others...(+11 HCP)
Hi Dave! Thanks for watching my video! I reckon you should clean them, bag them up and stick them on eBay! Break them down in smaller numbers! Someone will have them off you for practice for sure! Make yourself some money! All the best 👍🏼
I’ve used all 4 of these balls and from my experience I’d have to say that I’m very bad at golf
Haha love that comment! If it helps I feel the same! 😂👍🏼
Titleist Pro-V1 ,,, a premium soft ball ??
Hi Munnjean! Thanks for watching the video and for your comment! Apologies maybe I should have been clearer in the video. My understanding is these are the “softer” versions of the four most popular premium balls used on the PGA Tour (eg. Pro v1 is softer than Pro V1x or left dash or Chrome Soft is softer then Chrome Soft X or X LS). Rather than the 4 softest premium balls on the market.
I’m still new to making UA-cam videos so please excuse the mistake if that wasn’t clear! Lesson learned for next time! All the best, Luke 👍🏼
Srixon is the best by Far across the Board.
Hi Ric! Thanks for watching and your comment! I must admit it was the one that surprised me the most. Didn’t expect it to be that good. A real strong all round performance like you say! All the best 👍🏼
@Weekend Tour Pros I've been playing Srixon for years. Mini Tours here in Florida and local Tournaments. Have yet to find a Ball that suits me better than Srixon. Thank you for the response. I like your Channel a lot.
Amazing Ric! I wish I was that good! I must admit I am tempted to give the Srixon a go this summer. Might have to put it side by side with my current ball (TM Tour Response).
Thank you also for your kind comment about my channel! I’m still really new to this and it’s just a hobby to channel my passion for golf and I’m still making a lot of mistakes and learning as I go! All the best and lovely to chat to you! 👍🏼
""The difference between a one dollar ball and a three dollar ball... Is two dollars"
- Leslie Nielson
Haha! Love it! Thanks for watching! 👍🏼
One of the best is Kirkland. It’s been tested and tested and the results are the same. It has the same results as the PRO V 1. What makes it the top of the list is it’s price. Kirkland isn’t paying for hundreds of endorsements thus a $1.00 a ball is affordable for everyone.
Hi Mitch! Thanks for watching my video and for your informative comment! I’ve heard of the Kirkland ball but we don’t have them in the UK so sadly I wasn’t able to test them! But I have heard good things in other reviews! Sounds great value!!! All the best 👍🏼
Exactly, average players do not need premium balls. He knows that.
Hi Al! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! You’re absolutely spot on I do know that average golfers don’t NEED to play a premium ball which is why I was very careful not to suggest that - I don’t play a premium ball! 👍🏼 I just know lots of golfers WANT to play a premium ball so thought I might save them the money of buying sleeves of all of them to try them and hopefully help them narrow it down a bit based on their swing characteristics! All the best!
@@weekendtourpros greetings yes we do..I went to watch mufc stopped off at Costco in Manchester and bought 24 Kirkland for £28…cracking balls BUT I do think you have missed what I consider to be the best ball I’ve tried..I’m off mid single figures was using pro v’s and tp5…well I reckon the Wilson Triad is an amazing ball and have switched to those..this isn’t about money it’s about distance and feel..try them..amazing
Hi Phil! I actually didn’t know this about CostCo and the Kirkland until someone else put it in the comments! I’ll try get hold of a CostCo card and pick some up to test! Regarding the Wilson, I’ve had someone else say nice things about it in the comments and have played a Wilson before which I found incredibly soft and long so I’ll try to test that too in the future for sure! For this test I just picked the 4 most played brands on the PGA Tour and picked their “softer” ball. I really appreciate the comment though, thank you! All the best 👍🏼
You shoud test Seed golf balls. They manufacture their version of each of these premium balls and with their direct to consumer model and not paying millions to tour pros to endorse sell their balls at half the price. Even pros, when testing ,couldn't differentiate the Seed balls from the their premium ball counterparts !
Hi Aidan! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! I’ve already got the Seed balls on my list to test however it will be a few weeks yet until I get round to them! The only issue for me is that I can’t buy a sleeve of them so just adds a lot more cost to it! But I’ll do them in the near future for sure as keen to see what they are like! All the best! 👍🏼
Durability not really an issue when you lose as many balls as I do !!
Haha that made me laugh J C! So true! And that’s the reason I still don’t play a premium golf ball! It hurts my wallet too much when I lose them! Thanks for watching my video and for your great comment! All the best 👍🏼
IMO those balls are all too hard for the average swing speed. The chrome soft was much softer when it first came out, then progressively got harder. The Bridgestone RXS is perfect for me.
Hi Mike! Thank you for watching the video and for your insightful comment! I agree that the Chrome Soft doesn’t feel as soft as it did years ago! Also there’s been a lot of love from people in the comments for the Bridgestone, yourself included! They aren’t as popular or readily available in the UK so harder to get my hands on! I also picked the top 4 most played ball brands on the PGA Tour for this test and the Bridgestone was 5th so just missed out! It seems I’ve learnt a lesson here by doing that given all the love for it so I’m going to get my hands on some and test them soon! All the best, Luke 👍🏼
Why do you testers forget about Wilson tour ball
Hi Mark! Thanks for your comment and for watching my video! Tbh I just picked the four most used brands on the PGA Tour! I’ve had a lot of comments and love for the Bridgestone balls so will test that shortly and will make sure I add the Wilson to my list for future videos too! So thank you for your suggestion! And an FYI I played the Wilson Duo Soft a few years back and liked it and it was SO soft which I loved! All the best! 👍🏼
Durability never an issue for me. Don't care if someone finds my expensive ball in like new condition.
Hi Venerated Mortal! Haha you’re not wrong! I never keep my ball long enough for it to be an issue but know that it’s a factor for some people! Thank you for watching and for the comment! All the best! 👍🏼
20 feet of roll out of a wedge? sounds a little strange to me...
Hi Brent! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! I try to avoid talking about total distance/roll out with TM unless it’s to show a relative comparison between two data sets (e.g. club one stopped x% quicker than club two) because I think it’s all dependent on how the TM conditions are setup. I assume it must have been set up incredibly firm… I never get 20ft of roll with a PW on the course so I’d take that one data metric with a pinch of salt and worry about carry and flight trajectory/characteristics! All the best! 👍🏼
You swing speed isn’t high enough to take advantage of what these balls offer. Doesn’t mean you can’t use them but you should consider an AVX or one of the slower swing speed balls from Bridgestone. For all of these balls you need a club head speed over 105 (with driver) I am just a guy on the internet though! They all shank into the woods the same lol.
Hi Gydez! Thanks for watching the video and for your comment! I don’t disagree at all! I’ve always been told the X version of these balls is better for me and have previously tried all four of these in the X version. Sadly, like a lot of golfers, I just don’t enjoy the feel of them so that ends up turning me off! However I definitely plan to review more balls this year and have the X version review on my list next and will also ensure I do a Titleist Vs Titleist one and include the AVX etc. too! Thanks for your comment and for watching the video! 👍🏼
Somewhat true. I would say quality of strike is more important than just speed. If you swing 108 but never hit the center you wont compress the ball. If you swing 102 and hit it in the middle of the club every time you will compress it enough to get all the benefits. Slower swings benefit from more spin so the ball stays in the air.
Swing speed is not a factor when selecting a ball. That is a myth. Every golfer has many different swing speeds, not just one. AVX is not a slower swing ball. It’s spin and flight characteristics have nothing to do with a players swing speed.
@@mikepga1 Sort of. If you dont compress the ball you wont get the most out of it. Lower compression balls could help a lot of people. But to say only people that swing 105+ can use pro v1 sounds dumb.
@@greatwhite3676 and this is just what I’ve been told by people that taught me. I didn’t start using these balls till I was under control. But they wernt holding greens for me because of my swing characteristics. Speed fixed that for me though. This is my experience
90 mph clubhead speed is MUCH higher than average.
Hi Gregg! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! All of the data I’ve seen shows that 90mph is just below average for a male with a Driver!
TrackMan compiled all the data in their database a couple of years ago and the average was 93.4mph (I’m about 93mph when I’m not 2 hours into a test and very tired!). Also the distance I hit it is almost identical to the Arccos data report for 2022 which included over 2 million shots of driver only on par 4 and par 5 tee shots (225.9 yards). So I think I’m bang on the average from those two data sources! I hope that helps! All the best 👍🏼
you need to improve your audio , i need to turn it up to 11
Hi Laurie! Thanks for watching my video and for letting me know! No one has told me that before so thank you for the feedback. The videos all sound loud when I edit them so I’ll consider that in future! Thank you! 👍🏼
The spin rayes are illusion, can handicap players really tell difference between 5900 rpm and 6600 rpm on wedge. NO.
More than likely its the strike. We have all been led to believe that hit a wedge at target it will stop dead. Often want ball to release, what if play bump and run shots spin means the chip can grab too much and not roll out.
Golfers playing a premium high spin ball will not make you a premium golfer
Hi Geoff! Thanks for watching my video and for sharing your thoughts! I really appreciate them! 👍🏼 I totally agree that minor discrepancies in spin aren’t noticeable on the course (I say this often in my videos!) and are likely caused by my strike - I can’t remember if I say it in this video but I do say in most of my videos that I’m the biggest variable in these tests as a 12 handicap golfer. That is why I hit A LOT of shots when doing these tests so I can take out the 10% of anomalies good and bad and leave you with the best possible data but even then it’s not perfect as it brings in the fatigue factor! But hopefully it’s relatable for more golfers than watching a pro with a top 0.1% swing speed!
I also agree that playing a premium ball doesn’t guarantee you’ll become a premium golfer but I do think playing the same ball all the time is fundamental and a better quality ball would also help lots of golfers! I also don’t understand how most golfers will pay £500+ for a new driver but won’t pay £5-10 a dozen more for a golf ball that will help them on every shot they hit! 🤷♂️
What I would say though is that for me personally, as a low spin player I have been told by two of the most respected club fitters in the UK that I need more spin - a premium construction ball (regardless of price) is the easiest and cheapest way to do this. The spin adds height and control - two things most amateurs I play with, including myself, could all do with more of! Even with these premium balls I can’t stop it dead with any clubs unless greens are soft but I can stop it quicker and my front to back dispersion is tighter through the bag and my scores have come down as a result! Regardless you won’t see me paying £48 a dozen for Pro V1s but I’ll happily put them on my Christmas list each year and use them throughout the summer! Haha!
All the best and thanks for giving my channel a go! 👍🏼
Its none of those.
Tour B RX
Hi 73henny! You’re not the first person to give a lot of love to the Bridgestone! They are not as readily available in the UK and I picked the top 4 most popular (soft) balls used on the PGA tour when I planned the video and the Bridgestone was number 5 so just missed out! But I’m hearing a lot of love in the comments for it so I’ll 100% add this to my next ball reviews! Thanks for watching the video and for your comment! All the best!
TP5 being a 5 piece ball will always spin more
Absolutely! It still surprised me just how much it span though and how it was actually costing me a bit of distance from too much spin relative to my speed! Thanks for watching and commenting on another one of my videos! 👍🏼
@@weekendtourpros Just gutted it’s took me so long to find your channel if I’m honest….. Another cracking video. Very informative. Just shows how personal golf is. In 5 years you’ll be the new Rick Shields 💸💸💸
@Burnout9388 Haha! That’s too kind, thank you! I’m still really new so you’ve not missed too much! I’m also learning as I go and I’m sure I’m making a lot of mistakes as I go so I’m sure now is a good time to have found the channel! Enjoy your Sunday! 👍🏼
Best golf ball for average swing speed golfer is the found golf ball. Brand is irrelevant.
Haha Ben! Love that! You win comment of the day! 😂😂😂 thanks for watching my video! All the best 👍🏼
Bridgestone is the best
Hi Per! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! I must admit I was really impressed with the Bridgestone! All the best 👍🏼
220 total with a driver, I don't think it matters what ball you use with that number😂
Hi M! Thanks for watching the video and your comment! Sadly we can’t all be long hitters like you! I wish I was though! 😂 You might be interested to know though that the research and data shows that the average male driving distance in 2022 was 226 yards meaning my 230 total is bang average! It also aligns closely to LPGA clubhead speeds! So hopefully this video helps the majority of average golfers, even if it doesn’t help the long hitters like yourself! I also think there’s more to gain from a short hitter playing the right ball for them too rather than less like you imply! But we are all different and should respect each others opinions! All the best pal! 👍🏼
@weekendtourpros never said I was a long hitter, but with the 220 total and clubbed speed like that those are the wrong balls to test. I personally only drive it 280 with the occasional 300. So I'm not lighting up the course. Plus the numbers you speak of, don't take age into account so all the senior golfers are in there too. I'm sure the guys from 20 to 50 average more
Hi M! Yeah the Arccos data does break it down by age too and you are spot on. The older you are the shorter you are. The longest golfers in the 2022 data set are 15-19 year olds who average 243 yards total and the shortest are 70+ who average 191 total. But that also does make you a really long hitter! Definitely in the top few percent of all golfers! And I’m very jealous! Can I have a few yards please? 😂😂😂
I also totally agree with your point that as a general rule that the “perfect” ball in terms of performance for most golfers of my swing speed would not necessarily be one of the ones in this test. But some golfers can’t stand the feel of those balls (myself included) and it’s therefore a tough balancing act between enjoying the feel and being confident with it vs. the best performance isn’t it? So the purpose of the video was to try and help those golfers out and if the video and data has done that for at least one golfer then I’m really happy! Because that’s all I’m trying to do. This is just a hobby and something I’m spending my money doing because I enjoy the process and learning! (And where I’m still new to this I’m making a lot of mistakes too!) Thanks again for watching and commenting! Keep enjoying your golf! All the best 👍🏼
AVERAGE SWING SPEED
What is AVERAGE
ok, your average was approx 90
interesting
Hi Falcon Eye! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! Apologies, I should have been clearer, my determination that I am an average swing speed golfer is based on a TrackMan study from a couple of years ago where their database showed the average driver swing speed is 93mph (which I usually am but I was a bit slower in this test as tiredness had kicked in by the time I reached driver as I’d been hitting balls for 1.5 hours at that point! Haha!). It’s also supported up by the Arccos Driver Distance report which in 2022 includes 20 million driver shots on par 4 and par 5 holes and concludes the average golfer drives it 225.9 yards. Sorry for not being clearer but thank you for watching my video and for your comment! All the best! 👍🏼
Standing on the wrong side of the ball, mate.
Haha! Thanks for watching Dave! I do get that A LOT! 🤣👍🏼
Blah blah blah. The best premium (three piece Urethane) golf ball is the Kirkland at just shy of $1.10 apiece.
I defy anyone to tell me there's a fraction of a difference in a three piece ball. Played them all, and it's just too close to even matter.
Hi FlybyNight! Thanks for watching the video and for your comment! I’m not sure if you watched all the video but I think I proved in the video that, particularly at the two extremes (Chrome Soft and TP5) they did perform really different for me (spin, launch, distance).
Regarding the Kirkland, you’re the second or third person whose commented to say it’s a great ball so I’m trying to get my hands on some to review shortly as I’ve never hit one before! All the best! 👍🏼
@@weekendtourpros Hey, thanks for the reply. I have to confess, I didn't watch much of the video, but it provides good information for golfers, so thanks for that. Balls are subjective, and I'm 65, and have played everything in my time, and even though I can afford to play anything, my preference is that ball because it's as identical to a Pro V as any IMO.
Hopefully I’ll be able to see the same great results and similarities to the Pro V1 when I test the Kirkland too! Sounds exciting! All the best! 👍🏼
Sorry, being lefty automatically disqualifies the results! 😅😂
Haha that’s fair Dave! 😂 Thanks for watching my video! All the best! 👍🏼
Review the Snell golf ball. I love that brand. It's s knockoff of Titleist made by a former Titleist golf ball enigneer who was disgruntled and is trying to undercut Titleist. At age 48, I used to have a pretty good drive average of 280-310, and I did so with the Snell.
Hi Larry! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! Given how popular the ball review video has been I definitely plan on doing plenty more! I’ve added the Snell to my list! Thanks for the recommendation! All the best 👍🏼
@@weekendtourpros Awesome. I think it's a great ball. Looking forward to it and thanks again!
I’ve got a 100$ for every person over a 5 handicap that can tell the difference between a Prov1 and a cut blue when you hit it. And I won’t lose any money.
Hi Charlie! Thanks for watching and for your comment? Excuse my lack of knowledge here but what is a cut blue please? I’ve never heard of that!