What Just Happened? A Conversation with David Cayley about Ivan Illich and Much Besides

From the interrogation of the conceptual shifts which were crystallized by the events of recent years through the lens of Ivan Illich and beyond, this conversation with David Cayley turns over a bushel of stones, from the idolization of 'Life', to the unconsciously Christian character of secular society, to the problematics around the relationship between science and politics and more. May you find it illuminating!
David's website can be found here:
www.davidcayley.com/
And the specific article of his to which we allude at the conversation's outset can be found here:
www.davidcayley.com/blog/2020...
An additional, very germane piece, here:
www.davidcayley.com/blog/2021...

[@MrMoonFlame]

What a wonderful and authentic conversation. Much gratitude to spirit for leading me to it ❤️
The institutions of science today no more represent the actions of noble scientists than does the Church represent the noble teachings of Christ. The corruption has always been intrinsic to the institution, not to the truthful one who changes the world.

[@tinfoilhatscholar]

Brother from another mother! You're always welcome in my home Thomas

[@Incornsyucopia]

Thanks for this. I'd enjoy talking to you about many of these issues if you'd be interested.

[@offcenterconcepthaus]

Excellent. Huessy/Berman references FTW. Great explanation/segue that goes well beyond Tom Holland's of the denaturing of Western culture.

[@LeSacrum]

Thank you! i feel like there is a Illichist tribe arising right now :)

[@johnlawlor5305]

They aren't going to address it! Its all military /private-public partnerships fused into all sectors, bi-partisan, already engineerering 5 steps ahead of average jane and john. This is all political theatre, Vladislav Surkov-style.

[@LeSacrum]

Funny, i was thinking about Adam Curtis while listening to this interview.