Adding the aquatic stage Spore never had (evolution sim devlog 2-5)

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  • Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
  • I'm working on evolution simulation game The Sapling, my solo indie game project. It's a game where you can basically do two types of things: on the one hand, there are a number of scenarios tasking you to design an ecosystem that meets specific requirements, on the other there is a sandbox where you can build your own plants and animals, turn on 'random mutations', and see how they evolve.
    In this video I show how I built up the underwater look step by step, and I explain how algae will work.
    Website: thesaplinggame.com/
    Steam: store.steampowered.com/app/99...
    Itch: woseseltops.itch.io/thesapling
    Twitter: / thesaplinggame
    Fan initiatives:
    * Discord / discord
    * Reddit / thesapling
    0:00 Player interest in aquatic content
    1:30 The underwater look and sound
    4:33 Algae
    9:13 First level overhaul
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  • @MrLumagu
    @MrLumagu Рік тому +174

    With this expansion I feel reassured that the project won't be forgotten by the dev(s) as many indie games are. Might buy the game soon, after seeing how much effort you put into it. Great work!

    • @sebastianmurphy3990
      @sebastianmurphy3990 Рік тому +10

      I was so impressed by the work he put5s into the game I bought it before season 1 ended. Props to the developer for putting so much work in

  • @jadedstonedmonkey
    @jadedstonedmonkey Рік тому +186

    Hope this comes with amphibians, fish, and roe type eggs, and per say "fish" as in not need air and usually don't evolve to land, and also have mammals that are aquatic, that can interchange or adapt to the environment that suits them better, and then a update for fight and flight for how everything interacts Flora and fauna wise

    • @transnewt
      @transnewt Рік тому +8

      Amphibian and fish type eggs are more-or less the same, and almost every secondarily aquatic animal (such as marine mammals and reptiles) has the same or very similar adaptations. Ichthyosaurs, mosasaurs, and cetaceans being a collective example mirrored by penguins, plesiosaurs, and seals.

    • @jaysonklein6018
      @jaysonklein6018 Рік тому +7

      I want aquatic arthropods. 🦀🦞🦐

    • @ruudvandenhove6905
      @ruudvandenhove6905 Рік тому +1

      yeah whith aguatic animals it would be better

    • @dontforgetyoursunscreen
      @dontforgetyoursunscreen Рік тому +2

      No more people should like this comment we have reached a perfect 100

    • @The_Darke_Lorde
      @The_Darke_Lorde 3 місяці тому

      I bet something like putting an air breathing mouth on an otherwise fish body with absolutely crap land movement could work.

  • @kopykat9310
    @kopykat9310 Рік тому +18

    “Don’t cry because it’s over. Smile because it happened” -Dr Seuss. We will miss you Island.

  • @GustavSvard
    @GustavSvard Рік тому +86

    So, season 2 has brought us seasons, sounds, and aquatics. I hope this project keeps going and and can't wait to see what a future season 3 might bring
    us!

    • @literallyagalaxy7789
      @literallyagalaxy7789 Рік тому +5

      same

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +31

      Haha, assuming my current plans don't change (which they always do), the update will be slightly less (but still quite) ambitious :)

    • @GustavSvard
      @GustavSvard Рік тому +6

      @@TheSapling Less ambitious? I'm sure we'll all be amazed anyway :)
      oh and random idea: poop! animals poop, animals & plats die, bugs & worms eat that to create nutrients helping to make some areas more fertile.

    • @YLLPal
      @YLLPal Рік тому +7

      @@GustavSvard Less ambitious than this is like saying shorter than Everest, haha.
      Probably there will be more focus on fleshing out and interlinking the systems developed in this season. That's my guess anyway.
      Very excited

    • @gamingcat6034
      @gamingcat6034 Рік тому +2

      @@TheSapling bugs

  • @nicholasoneal1521
    @nicholasoneal1521 Рік тому +35

    This adds a lot of realism, especially if you have the option to let life start in the ocean

    • @renzbongers337
      @renzbongers337 Рік тому +3

      Yeah I really hope that he ads that option to! He always ones accuracy so that would be great.

  • @renzbongers337
    @renzbongers337 Рік тому +82

    Let’s go I can’t wait! Amazing to see this expansion to my favorite game, thanks for this amazing feature!

  • @chickenmoglies5891
    @chickenmoglies5891 Рік тому +20

    I hope this game gets famous some day

  • @junkbrick2491
    @junkbrick2491 Рік тому +70

    I wonder if life will start underwater and then eventually evolve to live up on ground. The possibilities are high for this update.

    • @lesussie2237
      @lesussie2237 Рік тому +15

      It's the most accurate approach. Lets see if he's made systems for plants & animals to evolve into land and maybe even back into water

    • @dontforgetyoursunscreen
      @dontforgetyoursunscreen Рік тому +4

      We can see how Earth life will evolve

    • @scarecrow9501
      @scarecrow9501 Рік тому +3

      I can’t wait to make a Wednesday my dudes.

    • @bilciper9687
      @bilciper9687 Рік тому

      @@lesussie2237 Like the death oreos?

    • @lesussie2237
      @lesussie2237 Рік тому

      @@bilciper9687 death oreos?

  • @nicholasoneal1521
    @nicholasoneal1521 Рік тому +25

    So, three kingdoms of life are now represented: Plants, Protists (by algae), and animals. What's next, fungi, bacteria? lol

    • @lordshennington2756
      @lordshennington2756 Рік тому +4

      @Dino Yooo 3d Plague Inc LETS GOOOOO

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +15

      Haha well a downside of these is that they're less visible, and invisible things don't playtest well. I still dream about a virus editor sometimes :P

    • @nicholasoneal1521
      @nicholasoneal1521 Рік тому +2

      @@TheSapling Yeah, I was only joking lol. Though having the Sapling mixed with Plague inc. is a very tempting thought

    • @dontforgetyoursunscreen
      @dontforgetyoursunscreen Рік тому +3

      @@TheSapling it would be cool for fungi but that seems hard as fungi are usually decomposers so not stable in game

    • @badideagenerator2315
      @badideagenerator2315 Рік тому +1

      @@TheSapling they could be made visible through cartoonish particle effects which give the implication of the organism being infected or through visible symptoms such as spots.

  • @Stonewren
    @Stonewren Рік тому +19

    So excited to watch, but for now I'll speculate!
    It'll be so interesting to see the implementation of water. Will plants be capable of swapping between terrestrial and aquatic lifestyles, will there be a separate aquatic plant type with its own separate editor, or will sea grass be a food source which just grows in the environment without dying, reproducing, or evolving? I could see arguments for all three possibilities!
    I expect the shallows to be the only places which can support plant life, so that the vast open ocean doesn't have organisms reproducing and using computer resources that could've been spent elsewhere. It'll be interesting to see if animals can swim across the open ocean to reach distant shores, or whether there's an invisible wall preventing them from wandering too far from land. I expect aquatic animals to just be handled by swim-capable leg types, and it'll be funny to see animals who can *technically* swim, but not very well, accidentally wander into the open ocean to starve.
    So much to be excited for!

    • @jorko2752
      @jorko2752 Рік тому +3

      In previous devlogs there have been multiple mentions of an "algae editor" so that's what these underwater plants most likely are.

    • @seal6015
      @seal6015 Рік тому

      I kind of disagree with your statement of "deep oceans don't have organisms reproducing" because they do, oh lord they do. The difference is its bacteria instead of plants but yes, the deep sea is infact as full of life as the shallows. Also with the horrific abominations that can be found down there, I'd love having access to it.

    • @Stonewren
      @Stonewren Рік тому +1

      @@seal6015 I never said that lol, I was just talking about how having huge oceans with things reproducing and mutating would slow down the time jump feature in an unnecessary way. Resources should go towards areas that have things players are likely to see and be interested in (meaning the shallows, unless we get brightly-glowing hydrothermal vents). Though perhaps I'm overestimating how much of these planets will be covered in water.
      If we end up having deep sea fish, I'd hope that the food chain would be supported passively from plankton which just deplete and replenish over time.

  • @Fummy007
    @Fummy007 Рік тому +20

    I'm still mad from 2008 when I heard they cut the aquatic stage, that and flying creatures.

    • @scarecrow9501
      @scarecrow9501 Рік тому +2

      I never played spore and I always just assumed they never planed to add aquatic and flyers where did you hear this from if I may ask

    • @Fummy007
      @Fummy007 Рік тому +1

      @@scarecrow9501 I remember before the game came out the trailer showed swimming and flying animals. Then in the run up they announced there wouldnt be an aquatic stage.

    • @michaelmccarthy8749
      @michaelmccarthy8749 Рік тому

      Spore had wings tho

    • @idioticed4379
      @idioticed4379 Рік тому +1

      @@michaelmccarthy8749 you could only rlly glide with them

    • @scarecrow9501
      @scarecrow9501 Рік тому

      Is this trailer still up?

  • @nauro5222
    @nauro5222 Рік тому +13

    Im replaying spore and having another game with aquatic related stuff is amazing
    Edit: it would be great if you instead of removing the island, just put it as a easter egg

  • @leothedinogamer3480
    @leothedinogamer3480 Рік тому +7

    I literally commented that the next update after fight and flight should be aquatic creatures and now a year later it is finally here

  • @loganshark667
    @loganshark667 Рік тому +6

    Spore has found a worthy successor

  • @zupzugsecend2467
    @zupzugsecend2467 Рік тому +13

    i hope animal limbs start like fins and then become feet or better fins

  • @ajoshdroid
    @ajoshdroid Рік тому +5

    You mad man you've done it! You have done something both amazing and inspirational. You've motivated me to go back to my indie game!

  • @Szyszz
    @Szyszz Рік тому +4

    I'll be real, i was wondering about buying the game for quite a while now, and this part of the update single handedly made me a new owner of one copy!

  • @samuellima6193
    @samuellima6193 Рік тому +7

    Aquatic life! LET'S GO!!!

  • @nshorts7063
    @nshorts7063 Рік тому +10

    I have an idea for the next update it could be the niche update witch adds more niches and make predators hunt down prey and makes it so large herbivores can live whith small herbivores and many more species

  • @crispybacon9917
    @crispybacon9917 Рік тому +2

    This game really is spore but the creatures actually evolve and the environment changes.

  • @forg3214
    @forg3214 Рік тому +3

    Now it would be cool to see the algae evolve into simple mosses and later terrestrial plants.

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +3

      Hey Forg, the transition from alga to plant is not implemented yet, but I definitely plan to add something like it soon.

    • @dontforgetyoursunscreen
      @dontforgetyoursunscreen Рік тому +2

      I think it would be hard to make one kind of thing to transform into the other that to the game would be like a animal becoming a plant which seems hard to do

  • @lahavmorris9919
    @lahavmorris9919 Рік тому +6

    I believe i can swim

    • @de-zo6ex
      @de-zo6ex Рік тому +1

      🎶I believe i can touch the ocean🎶

  • @MaxTheMuffin
    @MaxTheMuffin Рік тому +3

    The fact that the beta is released on my birthday 👌

  • @Tyulenin
    @Tyulenin Рік тому +6

    Oooo

  • @literallyagalaxy7789
    @literallyagalaxy7789 Рік тому +5

    YES!!!!

  • @dontforgetyoursunscreen
    @dontforgetyoursunscreen Рік тому +6

    This will let me symulate the history of all life and will help me with earth experiments to see how fish would evolve

  • @Riley_The_Snailsquid
    @Riley_The_Snailsquid Рік тому +7

    *WOOOOOOOOOOOOO*

  • @ixpo
    @ixpo Рік тому +1

    I last saw this channel about a year ago! While your still underrated i've noticed a lot of new changes compared to last time! I hope this is not discontinued.

  • @dontforgetyoursunscreen
    @dontforgetyoursunscreen Рік тому +3

    We still have one more thing in season 2 I wonder what it will be comment your ideas for what it could be

  • @chemems135
    @chemems135 Рік тому +2

    It would be really cool to see omnivorous mouths in the game, as it could help introduce carnivores more naturally in sandbox, as it could smooth the transition over from herbivore to pure meat eater.

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +1

      Hey Chemems, will indeed be in the next update!

  • @gerrardjones28
    @gerrardjones28 Рік тому +1

    Excited for this, after this I could sorta a do a proper evolutionary timeline for the planet with the life starting in the water

  • @ruudvandenhove6905
    @ruudvandenhove6905 Рік тому +1

    respect for wessel stoop that he can make this game alone

  • @Stonewren
    @Stonewren Рік тому +6

    glub glub glub glub 🐟

  • @thetismon_simp9593
    @thetismon_simp9593 Рік тому +3

    Cant wait

  • @LunarForte
    @LunarForte Рік тому +2

    I'm already impatient!

  • @obiomajronyekwere4469
    @obiomajronyekwere4469 Рік тому +1

    AYYY THE PROGRESS IN THIS ONE IS GREAT , honestly outdid yourself with this one your on track to even surpass species alre infact i think in many regards you have!
    honestly cant wait to see what the future holds!

  • @user-cd4bx6uq1y
    @user-cd4bx6uq1y Рік тому +1

    Underwater terrain should also have gradual but big differences in nutrient content between places. This could be the way to merge algae and plant types, with them trading off high energy to grow long underwater holding things with some resource absorption capability and even more if they're going to be as stable. How rigid a part is could work differently if it's under or above water
    Edit: the idea is that in certain regions it would be viable to rely more on ground nutrition, maybe not as efficient but still possible to go in that direction

  • @dynolab1959
    @dynolab1959 Рік тому +3

    R.I.P island

  • @Pixel_Forge_
    @Pixel_Forge_ Рік тому +2

    You are doing a great job, but I have a suggestion. Carpeting plants, AKA grass, but allow the player to edit and create multiple grasses. They would add a lot more life to the game, making the surface not look like just rock.

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +2

      Hey Indominus, thanks! It's a frequent suggestion indeed, not 100% sure how I will solve it.

    • @andorsolaris2539
      @andorsolaris2539 Рік тому +2

      @@TheSapling Maybe just a ground texture that spreads (or recedes) slowly over time? The editor for it could be like paint, with some brushes and stamps which allow the players to design the texture.

  • @cyberfutur5000
    @cyberfutur5000 Рік тому +1

    An Idea, leave the island level in the game, but make it so, that it only unlocks, after finishing all the others. (Maybe there will be more to scrap in the future and this would be a way to document the progress) Or I guess, people could just load an old version via steam.
    By the way, I am really impressed. Like a third of what you have shown so far, would be impressive, even just bug fixes, would have made me happy, but this could lead to a brilliant game. And I am amazed by the rabbit holes, you have to deal with. It's always like you have to learn a whole new skill, to make the most minor changes. You have my utter most respect.

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +2

      Thanks Cyberfutur5000, there's indeed a lot of skill learning involved in this project :). Also, (without making promises) I like the idea of having old material available as an easter egg somewhere.

  • @samuellima6193
    @samuellima6193 Рік тому +3

    I think you could add a level where you need to design an aquatic ecosystem and make the animals and plants go to land

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +4

      Will be discussed in the next episode :)

  • @pipp972
    @pipp972 Рік тому

    Love it! This is a project worth supporting even if for how fascinating it is alone. The fact that it's also fun is just icing on the cake.

  • @livixxxhimym
    @livixxxhimym Рік тому +3

    unfair amounts of hype

  • @KamranWali
    @KamranWali Рік тому

    The progress is looking really good! The algae is spot on and I really like how it moves around. Really like the optimized feature of the algae movement for far distance, that is really clever. With the added water effect it does look like under water. Also the sound effect under water adds so much to it. The new music matches so well with the under water. Keep it up! :)

  • @dontforgetyoursunscreen
    @dontforgetyoursunscreen Рік тому +4

    1:05 maybe we shouldn't have asked so much

  • @erlinacobrado7947
    @erlinacobrado7947 Рік тому +1

    Wonderful! I love it! I wonder though if you might want to add plankton as food source in the game? I heard from previous dev logs that you don't want to add invisible systems as much as possible, but it might be cool to replicate the largest source of food on earth as well as the major determinant of aquatic ecosystems. Probably they can be seen the same way groundwater and temperature can be seen on land, in gradients, although slowly moving and expanding in the water column. Then you might be able to add nektonic filter feeders, from small fish like organism to whales. Good luck with the good work!

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому

      Hey Erlina, thanks for your suggestion! Plankton won't be part of this update because I couldn't figure out how to do it in a way I like, but I would really like to have filter feeders one day, so I'm not giving up B)

    • @dontforgetyoursunscreen
      @dontforgetyoursunscreen Рік тому +2

      @@TheSapling you could make it the colder somewhere is the more algae there will be like in real life because nutrients from the deep can mix with same temperature waters causing more algae

  • @transnewt
    @transnewt Рік тому +2

    I see blowholes, but not gills. I suppose the latter would be simpler, but if bother are too be implemented then don’t forget the wide variety of gills. Cephalopods and fish have very different breathing systems, which let them bypass certain defenses and use different movement options (fish gills can be used filter-feed or turned into jaws, while cephalopods use theirs to move and don’t have to worry about clogging)
    Both gill types should fall out in efficiency to lungs, since oxygen doesn’t dissolve as readily in water, allowing for a wide diversity of breathing apparatus’s.

  • @draftybag3466
    @draftybag3466 Рік тому +3

    YES

  • @bencake28
    @bencake28 Рік тому +1

    OMG that's awesome. 🤯 Great solution and it looks so good and the sound matches perfectly. 🤗
    And did I see aquatic tetrapods at the end? 😱 Oh yeah, fill that habitat with mobile and sessile lifeforms! 🦐🦈🍣🐟🐳🐬🐙🐌🐚 Like the terrestrial ones you have. 😍 That would be gigantic.
    Your game will definitely be the best evolution game. I'm so looking forward to it! 🦖

  • @quinnburgess7748
    @quinnburgess7748 Рік тому

    I recently got this game after seeing the "making a game" vid you did. I looked into it more and got it. Hasn't let me down. I've been goping for an underwater aspect for the game, though. I'm excited to see how this will turn out. Keep going!

  • @bjarnes.4423
    @bjarnes.4423 Рік тому

    There are creatures on land and flying through air.
    So the engine should make it _rather easy_ to implement creatures on the ocean floor and flying- I mean swimming through water.
    What will be difficult is the transition zone for the evolution.
    I think a great selective pressure would be seasonal sea level changes (and maybe disasters in a future release).
    This looks pretty great already. If plants produce light, fish learn to move to light, fish gets eaten by angler fish using light as bait :D

  • @faytleingod1851
    @faytleingod1851 Рік тому +3

    103 likes and it hasn't aired yet.
    I'm one of those because I already know it'll be amazing ,😂

  • @flechedesneiges5114
    @flechedesneiges5114 Рік тому

    This is beautiful and amazing, thank you for the great job !

  • @KaroqiTimelapse
    @KaroqiTimelapse Рік тому

    Loving all these new devlogs

  • @aureumengi_pl9239
    @aureumengi_pl9239 Рік тому +2

    We have Algae? Now create water animals :D I have some ideas, but i want to write them in Polish, so translate them to your Language
    - Dodać wodne stworzenia
    - Stworzenia żyjące w wodzie mogą wyjść na ląd, i odwrotnie (tylko raz aby cykl się nie powtarzał)
    - Najmniejsze stworzenia mogą tworzyć ławice (jak ryby)
    - Dodanie unikatowych części ciała dla wodnych stworzeń (płetwy, płetwy ogonowe, a może nawet forma przejściowa między płetwami a nogami, coś aka Tiktaalik)
    Other Ideas:
    Inteligence
    Herding
    Other Reproducion ideas (like Life Birth, Amphibian eggs etc)
    Btw Spore is my Childhood, you doing good work man :)
    Edit: OMG LE FISH

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +1

      Hey AureumEngi, if Google Translate works well (and I think so), you will like the next episode :)

    • @aureumengi_pl9239
      @aureumengi_pl9239 Рік тому

      @@TheSapling Yey and thx :D And yes, Translator is 100% right

  • @YLLPal
    @YLLPal Рік тому +1

    I'm so excited for this update, it's shaping up to really flesh out the whole game.
    I'm sure you've thought about life forms transitioning between land and water environments, if you implement that, I think it would really bring the water areas into the game play.

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +2

      Indeed thought of it, see next week ;)

  • @dontforgetyoursunscreen
    @dontforgetyoursunscreen Рік тому +1

    It is nice having a new life type even if plants can't evolve from the water

  • @pinetorch7876
    @pinetorch7876 Рік тому +1

    The fish at the end, I hope the creature editor for the aquatic animals is same as land animals.

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +1

      Hey Pine Torch, it will be!

    • @pinetorch7876
      @pinetorch7876 Рік тому

      @@TheSapling ok thanks, I had my concerns cuz, although not bad, the alge editor feels the most restrictive in what you can do with it.
      Will you consider making the player have more control over their creations in the algae editor?

    • @pinetorch7876
      @pinetorch7876 Рік тому

      @@TheSapling btw, I’ve already asked this but are u thinking about giving Mac support for the game

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому

      Hey Pine Torch, the most important design goal for algae is to keep them simple, but I'm very interested in the ideas people might have to add more variety/player control while keeping it simple. As for Mac support: still no plans to expand to other platforms, but if I ever do, Mac will likely be the first because it would be the simplest to realize and it is the most common request.

  • @itsjustalf7747
    @itsjustalf7747 Рік тому +2

    Yesss this is what I’ve been hoping for!

  • @piglin469
    @piglin469 Рік тому +1

    ahh yes the ending fish

  • @Versuffe
    @Versuffe Рік тому +2

    cant wait for the update!

  • @CharChar2121
    @CharChar2121 Рік тому +2

    This changes things. 0.o
    Whoa!

  • @scarecrow9501
    @scarecrow9501 Рік тому +3

    Man this going to be awesome I wonder if fresh water and saltwater will be part of system and I wonder if update will also add swimming for land animals maybe I don’t know I wish I could play but I don’t have pc (maybe mobile version probably not hah sad times)

    • @dontforgetyoursunscreen
      @dontforgetyoursunscreen Рік тому +1

      I don't think there will be different kinds of water that seems hard to add

    • @scarecrow9501
      @scarecrow9501 Рік тому

      If he doesn’t that would be shame but would it be that hard actually though? Because to my knowledge the water cant rise or fall (as of right now) and there probably a algorithm out there that would be able to make where salt water and fresh water will be also brackish water would be cool but since the maps are small I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t add it. But I not programmer/game designer so what do I know. (And another thing to consider is in future he probably will add floods or droughts in future so maybe that would be factor but I think pros out way the cons)

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +1

      Hey Spino Dude, in this update there will be no difference between fresh water and salt water, mainly because I couldn't come up with how it would affect the animals... is there a clear visible difference between fresh water and salt water fish that you know of?

    • @scarecrow9501
      @scarecrow9501 Рік тому

      Hey The Sapling no not really I was think more around the lines like some fish could survive salt water and freshwater maybe they would need to evolve a special type a gill maybe or something. Also when you said there will be no difference between fresh water and salt does that mean it is ingame and it just doesn’t have any effect?

  • @Leyva0scarVRL
    @Leyva0scarVRL Рік тому +4

    I can only describe my exciment in a single phrase
    Im le fish glub glub glub

  • @tuckertechnolord6126
    @tuckertechnolord6126 Рік тому +1

    I am so exited!! I’m so glad I already have this game, and the sandbox updates are going to be super appreciated. Is there ever going to be some sort of scenario creator, so you can make a scenario and post it on the steam workshop?

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +1

      Hey Tucker, thanks! Without making promises, I indeed like the idea of workshop integration one day

  • @PaladinOfNerds
    @PaladinOfNerds Рік тому +1

    This is a dream come true. Thank you.

  • @scarecrow9501
    @scarecrow9501 Рік тому +2

    On thing I wonder is will there be Amphibians would be awesome another thing is what would a ocean ecosystem look like and if there ponds rivers waterfalls maybe I don’t know i was exited to see the other updates but this one to me seems to me is really exiting like will there be algae is the water effected by the light will land animals interact with water infinite possibilities I can’t wait to see what happens

  • @reiteration6273
    @reiteration6273 Рік тому +2

    All these dev blog videos are great. I've not actually bought the game yet, but I definitely will once this update goes live.
    The only reason I've not done so already is that I feel like I might be disappointed if I start playing now without all the great stuff that'll be added in the next update.

    • @dontforgetyoursunscreen
      @dontforgetyoursunscreen Рік тому

      You wont be disappointed I already have it

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +2

      Hey Reiteration, thanks for considering :). Heads up: I'm thinking of a small price increase in September (once the new update goes live on the main branch), so if want to buy you might want to do it before that time.

  • @tylerhawley2106
    @tylerhawley2106 Рік тому +2

    I'll add to the idea spam. What if the organisms could affect the environment? Say there's local/biome scale parameters, like moisture, which can be affected by the abundance or lack of plants. If an animal eats up the plants, it could become too arid for more of those plants to grow, driving that plant and animal to extinction, which could then lead to the aridity declining, plants recovering, and so on.

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +3

      Hey Tyler, thanks for your idea! Without making promises, some interaction between the soil and the lifeforms would indeed be interesting.

    • @erlinacobrado7947
      @erlinacobrado7947 Рік тому +1

      @@TheSapling Just adding here some simple suggestions you can probably implement easily much any addition to animation: a plant, whether small or large trees shadow (since I see you already have shadows) decreases the temperature for the animals under it by a small fraction, thus animals will intentionally seek shade in moderately hot temperature. Second one, bioturbation: burrowing animals that had digging claws make the soil more soft and loose, in turn, making plants there have an easier time accessing soil nutrients. Just to add: I think plant roots should be added as a food source to your digging animals. You don't have to implement any of these of course, they're just suggestions :)

    • @erlinacobrado7947
      @erlinacobrado7947 Рік тому +1

      @@TheSapling Another suggestion also, to replicate the Amazon's trees to manipulate weather: perhaps if trees beyond a certain mass or height congregate around a certain contiguous area in large numbers (say, 25) they might alter the local moisture levels to be much wetter. This may work only on the very large trees especially since they live long too. And if the trees in that are drop in a certain threshold, the moisture levels go to the normal levels.

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +1

      Hey Erlina, without making promises, indeed cool ideas, thanks for writing it all down!

  • @beniventotem
    @beniventotem Рік тому +1

    You have to add a workshop for mods in the future and saving, exporting, and importing creations so you can put it on the workshop and let other people use it. Also naming creations and more instincts? Just ideas but the best of them would be mods and instincts, most likely instincts.

  • @goldfinchproductions3526
    @goldfinchproductions3526 Рік тому +2

    THIS IS GONNA BE LIT

  • @hardworkingslacker7233
    @hardworkingslacker7233 Рік тому

    Wow, the underwater levels came somewhat unexpected for me but now I am very excited to play it myself.
    All in all, glad to see that the game continues to be developed!
    By the way, you could keep the island level for a retro level section, maybe refitted for future purposes ;D

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому

      Hey HardworkingSlacker, without making promises, having some way to add old levels and other things is an idea I like indeed!

    • @hardworkingslacker7233
      @hardworkingslacker7233 Рік тому

      @@TheSapling Nice!

  • @CharChar2121
    @CharChar2121 Рік тому

    Looks good

  • @trollster7133
    @trollster7133 Рік тому +1

    Ok idea:
    Idk if you’re planning on doing this but what if in the sandbox mode, algae can evolve into regular plants or just randomly spawn a simple fish. I’m pretty sure it came from bacteria or something else stupidly small but I mean it would be cool to just place an algae and 1 million years later have both plants and animals completely added naturally

    • @dontforgetyoursunscreen
      @dontforgetyoursunscreen Рік тому +1

      To the game that is like animals evolving into plants kind of difficult to add

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +2

      Hey Trollster, the transition from algae to plants I want to add for sure in some way!

  • @Tsuchimursu
    @Tsuchimursu Рік тому +2

    I assume you just simplified your explanation, and use fog to smoothly hide the fact that you stop things from rendering far from the camera?
    Because some beginners don't realise that your engine might be rendering things far away from the camera, even though they're behind a fog, causing extra strain instead of added performance. I just feel its worthwhile to mention.

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +2

      Hey Tsuchimursu, good point, but explanation was not complete! Indeed, the algae have a really short render distance, and THAT is what the optimization really is... the fog just hides it.

  • @SlipNperiodSlide
    @SlipNperiodSlide Рік тому

    cant wait!!!

  • @0content21
    @0content21 Рік тому +1

    Sponges and Coral would be really cool and, would make the sea more colorful!

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +1

      Fully agreed, 0Content, but it won't be in this update because they're so different from the animals you can currently make in the animal editor.

    • @0content21
      @0content21 Рік тому +1

      @@TheSapling That makes sense. They are a very complex thing to add to an evolution game as they could be a habitat for animals as well as its own living changing thing.

  • @livixxxhimym
    @livixxxhimym Рік тому

    Woah looks amazing! One question: will algae be able to evolve into plants? I'm assuming no because of the different editors

    • @dontforgetyoursunscreen
      @dontforgetyoursunscreen Рік тому

      Ya probably not that seems really hard to code

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +3

      Hey Livixxxhimym, it's not implement yet, but having algae mutate into plants at random, in some way, is high on my todo list :)

  • @user-cd4bx6uq1y
    @user-cd4bx6uq1y Рік тому +1

    Interesting how long would it take to incorporate algae into plants

  • @tobenamed610
    @tobenamed610 Рік тому +2

    I get that normal grass isn’t doable and would probably lag the game out of existence, but could you make it a texture for the ground? Like how animals have textured fur and things like that, there could be a pattern that covers the ground and looks like grass!

    • @dontforgetyoursunscreen
      @dontforgetyoursunscreen Рік тому +2

      That would be perfect like when there are a ton of plants somewhere the ground would become the color of the plants near to it

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +1

      Hey ToBeNamed, my first approach to grass would be to find some super optimized / simplified way to make grass visible and something that can evolve, just like the rest of all life in the game. Coloring the ground is the backup option ;)

    • @tobenamed610
      @tobenamed610 Рік тому

      @@TheSapling In that case, I have another idea: look at the way Minecraft does their grass/flowers. They’re two sprites put together to make an illusion of a 3D plant, but you can see that it’s sides are 2D if you look from directly above. This won’t be a problem in the Sapling, it won’t look bad and looking outward you’d see all the sprites, but the illusion of 3D is a lot easier than trying to render thousands of real 3D objects.
      Just an idea in case you decide to try!

  • @jansalomin
    @jansalomin Рік тому

    What is especially deep water uses an altered version of the new space theme

  • @ZewdPlays
    @ZewdPlays Рік тому

    This is a huge update

  • @kamale.abdelkader8561
    @kamale.abdelkader8561 Рік тому

    A wonderful game I must say. If I can suggest to you an idea for future updates, it would be the creation of Parasites and Parasitoids life forms, which need to be attached inside or outside of the animal, producing a colour change showing that the plant or animal is Sick. This could be a great implementation for future updates, of course, you don't have to hurry up to do it, just take all the time you need

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +2

      Hey Kamal, thanks! Without making promises, parasites indeed would be cool

  • @jaxxives243
    @jaxxives243 Рік тому +1

    Woo Woo swimmy Bois!!!

  • @TiernanOleary
    @TiernanOleary 4 місяці тому +1

    Intelligence and civilisations

  • @ivomartinez9245
    @ivomartinez9245 Рік тому +1

    Will algae and aquatic animals be able to evolve into land organisms? Looking great btw.

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +2

      Aquatic animals definitely, for algae to mutate into plants is not implemented yet, but I definitely want to do something like that.

    • @ivomartinez9245
      @ivomartinez9245 Рік тому +1

      @@TheSapling Alright, that makes sense, thank you!

  • @FireTurkey
    @FireTurkey Рік тому

    That ending really caught me off guard

  • @mirrormonkey2
    @mirrormonkey2 Рік тому

    Great video! May I ask how you achieved the beautiful underwater gradient in the background the the algae editor?

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому

      Hey MirrorMonkey, it's a simple gradient shader where I only specify 2-3 colors; I can look up the source if you want!

    • @mirrormonkey2
      @mirrormonkey2 Рік тому

      @The Sapling that would be awesome! I assume the fog doesn‘t take into account the gradient, right?

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому

      github.com/aadebdeb/GradientSkybox Here you go

  • @milkman1818
    @milkman1818 Рік тому

    Hyped

  • @ruudvandenhove6905
    @ruudvandenhove6905 Рік тому

    so i have the game but i have a question: so there are two types of plant part after the first spiky part so the first one a bulb whith spikes and another that is a leaf-like hagning part so what are the different purpouses of the parts?

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому

      Hey Ruud, I think these are the only two body parts that are identical in terms of stats. I hope to fix that one day though ;)

    • @ruudvandenhove6905
      @ruudvandenhove6905 Рік тому

      or you can have that the spiked bulb part can be eating by the new special mouth and that the other part cant be eaten but does not so much damage as the other

  • @uhh.....911
    @uhh.....911 Рік тому +2

    Can you please add parasitic life, it will be quite interesting to make! But it might be complicated.

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +2

      Hey Venosblox, without making promises, it's an interesting idea indeed!

  • @RP-og6rv
    @RP-og6rv Рік тому +1

    Why not use the low-pass filter for both the underwater and pause music?

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому

      Hey RP, good point! I tried that first, but somehow my brain thought the game was on pause each time I want underwater, so I felt like I had to remove that association somehow.

  • @talonortiz6004
    @talonortiz6004 Рік тому +2

    You should add wind the higher you go

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +2

      You mean that the wind strength should be high on the top of mountains? Because right it's mostly the flat areas that are really windy.

    • @talonortiz6004
      @talonortiz6004 Рік тому

      @@TheSapling yeah i just did not word that right my bad

  • @UntoppableTopHat
    @UntoppableTopHat Рік тому +1

    Here are some things I personally think you should add one the ability to manually change terrain now I'm not sure if this already it's not clear but I think it would be cool to say raise and lower terrain with say a brush.

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +1

      Hey Elowehi, thanks for your suggestion! At the moment, I've opted for random generation instead, so the update would be ready faster, but never say never :)

  • @vaultdude4871
    @vaultdude4871 Рік тому +1

    Oh! So algae will wevolve into land plants and these could go to th4 sea too?

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому +2

      Hey Vault Dude, it's not implemented yet, but something like that is what I imagine indeed.

    • @vaultdude4871
      @vaultdude4871 Рік тому

      @@TheSapling heck yea dude

  • @mrcrunchies8688
    @mrcrunchies8688 Рік тому +1

    YESSSIIIRRRRR

  • @bluesoman
    @bluesoman Рік тому

    I would use a vertex displacement shader for the algae to save on performance.

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому

      Thanks for the suggestion, much appreciated!

  • @modernmajorgeneral4669
    @modernmajorgeneral4669 Рік тому +1

    I hope there will also be the ability to make aquatic plants.

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому

      Hey RHF, without making promises, it's an idea I like, but not in this update!

  • @LPkletten
    @LPkletten Рік тому

    I have a few Questions. Even if we are not able to get fish will, there be Semi-Aquatic creatures? Also do you considering a Patreon or similar things i would love to support this project even further.

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому

      I think you didn't watch until the end ;P

  • @lincolnc8658
    @lincolnc8658 Рік тому

    Hey, since there’s no bug report section in your discord, there’s 2 glitches where one, the plants, erm, well develop oddly phallic appendages down low, and the second bug is that during sandbox mode there’s a chance your game will just stop, all animations either freeze or loop and the only way you can continue is by saving then reloading the save. Hopefully you see this and they are fixed.

    • @Leyva0scarVRL
      @Leyva0scarVRL Рік тому

      I dont think the first one is a bug lol, but the other one absolutely neds to be fixed

    • @TheSapling
      @TheSapling  Рік тому

      Hey Lincoln, I mostly use Steam forums for bug reports! What you describe sounds like a problem with the visualization... any idea of what I can do to reproduce the problem (or to increase the chance of the problem appearing)? Let me know.

    • @lincolnc8658
      @lincolnc8658 Рік тому

      @@TheSapling The first one you can recreate by creating a small plant and then just let it evolve with random mutations on for a while. The second one you can recreate by just leaving the sandbox running for a while.