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  • Опубліковано 12 чер 2023
  • Bill Simmons is joined by former Sixers head coach Doc Rivers to discuss what Joel Embiid needs to do to take the next step in his career, how it ended with the Sixers against the Celtics, and whether James Harden’s playoff reputation is unfairly earned or not.
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  • @HipHopSince784
    @HipHopSince784 11 місяців тому +1155

    Never thought I'd see the day when these two have a civil conversation

    • @grahamjl766
      @grahamjl766 11 місяців тому +76

      We honestly need more of this. The culture of if you're not with me, you're against me or everyone's an opp really needs to stop. Two people with different outlooks can have a civil conversation.

    • @WycoTL
      @WycoTL 11 місяців тому +25

      Doesn't Bill employ two of his kids? Doc at a disadvantage lol

    • @lukechiarieri3269
      @lukechiarieri3269 11 місяців тому +55

      Just rewatched the secret base beef video of them today 🤣

    • @HipHopSince784
      @HipHopSince784 11 місяців тому +7

      @@grahamjl766 1000% agree

    • @blackcat4859
      @blackcat4859 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@lukechiarieri3269 what was their beef? Or do you have a link to that video?

  • @fudgets1
    @fudgets1 11 місяців тому +175

    Doc Story: A few years ago (18-19 season) I was in college covering a Clippers game for my sports journalism class and after the game we got to go to Doc’s postgame press conference. Doc knew our class was there and called us out and asked that the mic be passed down to our row. Somehow, the mic ended up with me. I was nervous as hell but I asked him a question about the teams performance versus outside expectation and he gave me a very thoughtful and detailed response and thanked me for the question. It was a small gesture but it meant a lot to me. You can say a lot about Doc as a coach but I will always think highly of him as a person.

    • @exitscreaming4637
      @exitscreaming4637 11 місяців тому +9

      That just tells me he knows how to play the game....which is the criticism that follows him today

    • @roboninja3194
      @roboninja3194 11 місяців тому +1

      @@exitscreaming4637 So him being somewhat nice to a person and giving a detailed answer to a question means he knows basketball? What an odd criteria. The man played in the NBA for several seasons and has coached several teams. Clearly he should know the game. But none of that means he isn't a bad coach. Which he is. He only won with a loaded Celtics team. That team should've won more actually. Doc is terrible when it comes to making adjustments. Fans have watched it for years now and players who've played for Doc have said he makes no adjustments during games.

    • @knowsmebyname
      @knowsmebyname 11 місяців тому +1

      Doc Rivers has the gift of empathy. He just knows what life feels like from the other guys shoes. Hes a good man.

    • @kencarthen1642
      @kencarthen1642 10 місяців тому

      ​@@exitscreaming4637how is knowing how to play the game a criticism??

    • @exitscreaming4637
      @exitscreaming4637 10 місяців тому +1

      @@kencarthen1642 I was referring to the PR game , not the game of basketball . He's a good talker. I probably should have worded it differently

  • @mhop9775
    @mhop9775 11 місяців тому +168

    Was not expecting this interview

    • @sdaoud31
      @sdaoud31 11 місяців тому +1

      Me neither, Simmons doesn’t hesitate criticizing Doc.

    • @Mikegaryhouse
      @Mikegaryhouse 11 місяців тому +13

      I’m sure I’ve recently watched a Beef History between these two! Clearly the beef has been cooked and eaten!

    • @hotlineblingisagoodsong
      @hotlineblingisagoodsong 11 місяців тому +6

      They don't call him the pod father for nothing

    • @misterputscalls5902
      @misterputscalls5902 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Mikegaryhouse I think the 'beef history'' as mostly for the clicks. It's overblown conspiracy crap.

    • @exitscreaming4637
      @exitscreaming4637 11 місяців тому

      You weren't expecting Doc to blame the players who just got him fired ? Bwahahaha

  • @connortaylor4538
    @connortaylor4538 11 місяців тому +288

    Docs agent had to call him up and say “Doc you got an interview with a William Simmons” only way this conversation happened

    • @Rickon2506
      @Rickon2506 11 місяців тому +32

      Both his son & daughter have a pod with Ringer, I believe.

    • @nicholaspu
      @nicholaspu 11 місяців тому +9

      Simónnės

    • @brandonwhite4992
      @brandonwhite4992 11 місяців тому +16

      I bet you they have hashed it out behind the scenes. His son and daughter work there.

    • @tajmula671
      @tajmula671 11 місяців тому

      🤣🤣

    • @Ruatsanga13
      @Ruatsanga13 11 місяців тому +3

      What happened? Please tell the backstory if there is any?

  • @WorldwideWyatt
    @WorldwideWyatt 11 місяців тому +432

    Salute to Doc and Bill for doing this podcast despite their history.

    • @tonious35
      @tonious35 11 місяців тому +17

      Ya'll know Bill is just throwing bait out there for Doc to bite on and Doc is eating the boat right now, Doc is biting at everything

    • @ipsun1632
      @ipsun1632 11 місяців тому +3

      What's their beef?

    • @adrianfreeman2041
      @adrianfreeman2041 11 місяців тому +27

      ​@@ipsun1632Bill was a harsh critic in the Media when Doc coached the Celtics.

    • @lilpenny1982
      @lilpenny1982 11 місяців тому

      True

    • @jdriscoll2000
      @jdriscoll2000 11 місяців тому +3

      @tonious35 lol you can see in bill's face 'I just got him to insult the Orlando team again'

  • @Dspeaker1
    @Dspeaker1 11 місяців тому +376

    I haven't listened to a ton of Doc interviews, but I didn't expect him to be this honest. I'm gonna go listen to the whole podcast now

    • @digontozahid
      @digontozahid 11 місяців тому +30

      He got fired he got nothing to lose

    • @turner4243
      @turner4243 11 місяців тому +18

      Kinda feel like he's not really looking for a new job. Feels more like he is in the media stage of his career again but idk he may try to coach again.

    • @seanknapp1
      @seanknapp1 11 місяців тому +7

      He always says everything. he's been talking about that orlando team for years

    • @scandelez
      @scandelez 11 місяців тому +2

      No reason to lie now lol. Nobody’s feelings to protect.

    • @ChuckwaldMartin
      @ChuckwaldMartin 11 місяців тому

      @@turner4243 Depends on the money and how much he misses it, if he does come back I'd expect him to be better garnishing new perspective. He's had the luxury of bouncing around the top jobs he needs a little bit of a reality check i suppose.

  • @zo7761
    @zo7761 11 місяців тому +138

    Most unexpected collab of all time

    • @apng8879
      @apng8879 11 місяців тому +4

      Nope.... kg and Joakim Noah just had one recently..lol its close

    • @blackcat4859
      @blackcat4859 11 місяців тому +1

      I listen to Simmons and he's been critical of Doc but that can't be the reason for this being unexpected. What is the reason?

    • @exitscreaming4637
      @exitscreaming4637 11 місяців тому

      lol not really Doc needed to blame his players for their loss and Bill was willing to listen

  • @cosmoakapiur1
    @cosmoakapiur1 11 місяців тому +42

    Great to see they have squashed the old beef, great pod!

    • @markirving2238
      @markirving2238 11 місяців тому +1

      What old beef I’m lost

    • @anthonycelestin3559
      @anthonycelestin3559 11 місяців тому +7

      Markirving22 Bill Simmons would often criticize Doc as a coach but Doc felt a way about it. But they seem to resolve their issue

    • @markirving2238
      @markirving2238 11 місяців тому

      @@anthonycelestin3559 oh ok

    • @nicholaschristodoulou3821
      @nicholaschristodoulou3821 11 місяців тому +2

      Search Secret Base Bill Simmons Doc. They have a great and entertaining on their historic beef

  • @Crazyjedi2
    @Crazyjedi2 11 місяців тому +33

    Listening to this I can see how Doc keeps getting jobs coaching in the NBA. He's really easy to talk to.

    • @jonjaime
      @jonjaime 11 місяців тому +3

      He should be a tv analyst then.

    • @exitscreaming4637
      @exitscreaming4637 11 місяців тому +3

      Yepp he can BS with the best

    • @carltonrudolph
      @carltonrudolph 11 місяців тому

      And i can sew how he keeps getting fired

  • @jorgeorozco5417
    @jorgeorozco5417 11 місяців тому +51

    Doc Rivers needs to get back on TV. He's brilliant on tv.

  • @kevinc8955
    @kevinc8955 11 місяців тому +244

    Embiid has the same problem Tatum has. A) takes too long to make his move when he gets the ball allowing the defense to set against him and B) not recognizing before his move where the helps coming from.
    Inversely it’s why Jokic is so dominant. He does both well.

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 11 місяців тому +15

      Interesting that they both have the same exact trainer. I agree tho.

    • @onomatopoeia5540
      @onomatopoeia5540 11 місяців тому +15

      Both are horrible decision makers. Something hard to learn if someone just focuses on shooting and dribbling on off season😂😂😂

    • @MosheXX
      @MosheXX 11 місяців тому

      Spot on

    • @Phat-rj3jo
      @Phat-rj3jo 11 місяців тому +21

      Joel is a bad passer, and while I think it can be improved with good coaching, what Jokic does is innate, he just have a natural feel for it.

    • @Phat-rj3jo
      @Phat-rj3jo 11 місяців тому +9

      @@Byronic19134 cuz that trainer specializes in teaching players on how to score.

  • @jacksonmathews9178
    @jacksonmathews9178 11 місяців тому +117

    Doc Rivers is such a great interview. It's kind of baffling how open and transparent he is.

    • @lv20213
      @lv20213 11 місяців тому +17

      Perhaps that’s his secret to securing coaching jobs and being a coach players rave about and want to play for. He knows how to talk to them. He’s real.

    • @jacksonmathews9178
      @jacksonmathews9178 11 місяців тому +12

      @@lv20213 good point. he speaks openly about players without it coming off as disrespectful.

    • @MacNif
      @MacNif 11 місяців тому +12

      He's so open because he blew FOUR 3-1 Leads
      He has no choice

    • @irvbarkley
      @irvbarkley 11 місяців тому +2

      Dock is definitely baffling

    • @misinfluence
      @misinfluence 11 місяців тому +21

      Is also baffling how he doesn’t take any blame for losing because of lack of strategic adjustments

  • @sixtentore8655
    @sixtentore8655 11 місяців тому +9

    In that Houston game with Joe Smith and Corey Brewer making good shots, the game changer was actually 38 year old Pablo Prigioni. He came in, got a couple of steals off inbound passes, brought in his experience and calm demeanour and had the best +/- of the game. He was so good that Doc brought him to the Clips the following year, following his tradition of "I'll hire the guy that beat me"

  • @f58534
    @f58534 11 місяців тому +11

    Glad to see you guys talking again

  • @rupertpupkin2660
    @rupertpupkin2660 11 місяців тому +17

    It's refreshing to see Doc's honest take on this year's 76ers team without totally going PR on us like he did in those Press Conferences. From what I gathered it looks like Joel needs to have a better relationship with his teammates. Not saying he's a selfish player however he's too lowkey and not outgoing enough in the locker room. This has always been a problem with Embiid it seems which is why guys like Tobias had to take on that role when in reality the BEST player needs to be that leader.

  • @kylek1742
    @kylek1742 11 місяців тому +326

    No one is better at passing off blame than Doc Rivers

    • @joshtutor5606
      @joshtutor5606 11 місяців тому +26

      His ego has always been bigger than his talent...You want a real opinion on Doc, listen to Michael Lombardi's podcast, GM shuffle...Lombardi sees through Doc's BS.

    • @jlui21
      @jlui21 11 місяців тому +14

      @@joshtutor5606 --- Doc is a good regular season coach. In the playoffs? Different story.
      he hasn't made it past the 2nd rd since his Bos days in 2012. That's a 11 year drought (and he had CP3-Blake-then MVP Joel-Harden).

    • @blackcloak67
      @blackcloak67 11 місяців тому +10

      “It’s not Blake’s fault. It’s not Blake’s fault”

    • @elzrobinson3307
      @elzrobinson3307 11 місяців тому

      @@jlui21 ya'll just say stupid shit lol.

    • @Steventsang113
      @Steventsang113 11 місяців тому +6

      @@jlui21don’t forget he also had kawhi who just had got fmvp last year and pg13 who had been top 3 mvp last year with okc and 2 sixeth men but choke in the second round 😂

  • @johng45746
    @johng45746 11 місяців тому +20

    I like this honest side of Doc. Great interview

    • @exitscreaming4637
      @exitscreaming4637 11 місяців тому

      " Honest side " means blaming his players for losing......ok......lol

  • @24towedbiscuit
    @24towedbiscuit 11 місяців тому +7

    I really enjoyed this interview. The coaching insights and stories were great.

    • @crazyluigi6664
      @crazyluigi6664 9 місяців тому

      Could certainly see why Mat Ishbia thought he was a finalist for the head coaching gig for the Suns before ultimately giving it to Frank Vogel.

  • @solephonic
    @solephonic 11 місяців тому +2

    this pod and discussion was excellent. it's great hearing doc rivers talk shop.

  • @bobbytropo2314
    @bobbytropo2314 9 місяців тому +2

    Say what you will about doc rivers and his coaching ability but you gotta respect how he doesn’t stray away from tough questions.

  • @Lootroq
    @Lootroq 11 місяців тому +4

    I swear to god, despite his failures, it's impossible to not like this guy. And I could see how someone would feel like maybe he could get it done because of his confidence and composure without arrogance.

  • @joeylewis8615
    @joeylewis8615 11 місяців тому +4

    I was shocked to hear Doc on the podcast, I thought these guys were not on good terms. Glad to see some people can act like adults and have a good, in-depth conversation despite their history.

  • @thertisan3440
    @thertisan3440 11 місяців тому +2

    Damn....... This is what podcasts are supposed to be about!!!! Great job Bill 🔥🔥🔥

  • @oliverg8085
    @oliverg8085 11 місяців тому +1

    Great great interview bill. Really good insights. Thank you!

  • @noordeenaltammimi6416
    @noordeenaltammimi6416 11 місяців тому +50

    This is like if skip hosted lebron after a final loss and was supportive lol

    • @ky6632
      @ky6632 11 місяців тому

      NAH..... that would be historic in the media. This is good to see. That would be a seismic shift!

    • @zjz19900621
      @zjz19900621 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ky6632 Bill was that guy in NBA media during the Doc beef.

    • @noordeenaltammimi6416
      @noordeenaltammimi6416 11 місяців тому

      @zjz19900621 fr and unlike Bron and skip they went back and forth A lot

  • @robs257
    @robs257 11 місяців тому +8

    Srsly is this a glitch in the matrix? 🤣 Props to both for making that interview

  • @amatya.rakshasa
    @amatya.rakshasa 11 місяців тому +11

    Wow these two are friends again? Props to both of them!! This was such a great pod!!

  • @sebastianpedone7209
    @sebastianpedone7209 11 місяців тому +2

    Espectacular charla! Muy honesto Doc y muy claro

  • @lottoguy6457
    @lottoguy6457 11 місяців тому +4

    Doc knows a lot about what went wrong with teams. He’s done it over and over.

    • @kanajingly8957
      @kanajingly8957 11 місяців тому

      Always saying our team needs to get better. No Doc, you need to get better.

  • @2eezySportsTalk
    @2eezySportsTalk 11 місяців тому +26

    This is a prime example of coaches knowing exactly what fans are seeing what's wrong with their team and the coaches are even saying it but the PLAYERS don't listen. Great interview Doc was very candid.

    • @Sotanath86q
      @Sotanath86q 11 місяців тому +5

      Prime example of coaches diverting blame

    • @insertlastname
      @insertlastname 11 місяців тому +2

      He’s been givin how many future hall of famers and only has 1 ring?

    • @kanajingly8957
      @kanajingly8957 11 місяців тому +1

      Right, like the fact that Doc loses series leads because he doesn't know how to make strategic adjustments to counter the adjustments made by other teams in the middle of a series?
      This is why doc keeps getting a job he shouldn't have at all.

  • @jacksimms2053
    @jacksimms2053 11 місяців тому +1

    This was a great interview bravo

  • @Bigguccirambo
    @Bigguccirambo 11 місяців тому

    Woooooooow the interview I’d never thought I’d see

  • @Molson-xg9hs
    @Molson-xg9hs 11 місяців тому +5

    Doc doing such an open interview about the job he just lost with a guy who he has had his differences with over the years? Very unexpected, but very refreshing. Good on both of them.

  • @btcs_41
    @btcs_41 11 місяців тому +18

    This was an incredible interview. Doc was really honest and forthcoming, highly recommend listening to the whole Pod.

    • @rohandunbar2072
      @rohandunbar2072 11 місяців тому

      I would've liked Bill to ask him to grade himself as the 76ers head coach, why did you withdraw your name from the Phoenix job, why don't you believe in the development of young players ? Do you think it's a coaching problem losing 10 straight game 7s? Do you think you have a lack of adjustments issues? Why haven't you been able to get out of the 2nd round in over a decade? Questions of that magnitude since he was being so honest

  • @davidbardot1
    @davidbardot1 11 місяців тому +1

    Great pod did not expect doc to be so transparent

  • @calebpanopio9070
    @calebpanopio9070 11 місяців тому +55

    Man I could listen to Doc allday. I can see why a lot of people love him

    • @WorldwideWyatt
      @WorldwideWyatt 11 місяців тому +14

      He knows hoops and he knows how to explain the game in simple ways. I don’t think he’s a good coach but I still have a lot of respect for him.

    • @jlui21
      @jlui21 11 місяців тому +2

      @@WorldwideWyatt -- he's a good regular season coach, build culture, etc. But in the playoffs where you need Xs and Os?
      He hasn't made it past the 2nd round since 2012 w/ Boston.

    • @elzrobinson3307
      @elzrobinson3307 11 місяців тому +2

      @@WorldwideWyatt his peers think hes a great coach....

    • @rohandunbar2072
      @rohandunbar2072 11 місяців тому

      @@jlui21 regular season winning culture?

    • @rohandunbar2072
      @rohandunbar2072 11 місяців тому +3

      @@elzrobinson3307 how you know his pairs ain't laughing behind his back? Coaches gonna stick up for coaches especially in the media but doc is known as a choker

  • @KDRusha
    @KDRusha 11 місяців тому +10

    I’ve spent a little time around the Sixers and I can tell you with certainty that the “spend time with your teammates off the court and show them that you love them” was an issue. The team seems so separated from James and Embiid when it comes to events and that’s if Embiid and Harden show up at all.

  • @MrLathor
    @MrLathor 11 місяців тому +29

    Unfortunately for Joel, it seems like his body just isn’t built for a full regular season and playoffs. He is such a massive dude who plays pretty physically demanding basketball and it takes a toll. Jokic’s style allows him to be effective in the regular season and then go completely nuclear in the playoffs.

    • @torpedospurs
      @torpedospurs 11 місяців тому +4

      I almost think he should just play more bully ball. Doing all these step backs, crossovers, etc can't be great for his legs. Back guys up in the post and shoot the jump hook!

    • @jackzeldon2883
      @jackzeldon2883 11 місяців тому +1

      Phila has surrounded Embiid w/ slop he's got to kill himself at both ends every game..... man has the #5 career scoring Avg in NBA history & Dominates on Defense & contrary to these narratives Embiid's playoff & Reg seasons stats are identical 27 pts 11 reb 3 ast vs 25 pts 11 reb 3 ast (look it up) & his Free Throw attempts are the same too 10.4 vs 9.9 in the playoffs.....
      Phila's problem is they are one of the worst run organizations in the NBA under their current ownership..... but you Never hear that b/c NBA media & protects Ownership & Management at All costs...... I have a lot of respect for Doc but I expected him to Savage Morey & Phila's owner Wall St Crook Josh Harris - but he aint gonna bite the hand that feeds him b/c he'll never get another job if he does

    • @dzigizord6567
      @dzigizord6567 11 місяців тому +1

      @@jackzeldon2883 man, Embiid just played very bad in clutch moments in playoffs, like very bad, both def and offense. And as for the offence in some games he was shying away from taking responsibility and making actions himself and he should be a no1 star, just bad.

    • @goldmo2427
      @goldmo2427 11 місяців тому +2

      @@jackzeldon2883he’s had great teams since 2017 give me a break

    • @kanajingly8957
      @kanajingly8957 11 місяців тому

      Right, it's Joel's fault for the team not making any adjustments to account for the strategic adjustments made by the other team which put the 76ers to bet.
      Give me a break Doc. Always shifting the blame on players instead of himself.

  • @jjmmat133
    @jjmmat133 11 місяців тому +1

    hey bill love the show and great content as always but hopefully for your future vids it will be on HD

  • @TheKnicksRealist
    @TheKnicksRealist 11 місяців тому

    great conversation

  • @spoogtastic
    @spoogtastic 11 місяців тому +243

    Joel was more concerned with making sure he campaigned for his mvp than he was with winning the title. It was very clear the mvp was the single most important thing to him this year.

    • @mxhughes
      @mxhughes 11 місяців тому +24

      Facts he not upset that all his contemporaries in his age group (giannis,tatum,jaylen,booker,siakim,adebayo,now jokic) have made the finals n some even won a championship meanwhile he's still struggling reaching the conference finals.Dude needs to get his priorities straight

    • @andywalken6838
      @andywalken6838 11 місяців тому +10

      You want this guy to cry every time he loses

    • @kaysheye7784
      @kaysheye7784 11 місяців тому +9

      @@andywalken6838 LMAOO that's how he became a meme in the first place

    • @chasingfelix3609
      @chasingfelix3609 11 місяців тому

      So what?

    • @WalterModel45
      @WalterModel45 11 місяців тому +14

      But he always has been like that.
      Is an egocentric and childlesh superstar

  • @sethcurry18009
    @sethcurry18009 11 місяців тому +9

    16:36 I think he's talking about Ben Simmons 😂😂😂. Doc really needs the break

    • @jamesirvingnba
      @jamesirvingnba 11 місяців тому +1

      Nobody cares what he thinks the best fit for the sixers, when he's been the biggest problem of the sixers

    • @sethcurry18009
      @sethcurry18009 11 місяців тому

      Fr 😂

    • @frz_-
      @frz_- 11 місяців тому

      Cant be since Ben Isnt a Scorer anymore😂😂

    • @robdoms45123
      @robdoms45123 11 місяців тому

      Should have persisted with Ben but supplemented his scoring gap with Maxey. I think Simmons, Maxey and Embiid could have worked. Damage was done first by Daryl trying to trade him 2-4 weeks into his job. Harden went to the nets but created doubt with Ben. It was downhill after that.

  • @fanpolposition8375
    @fanpolposition8375 11 місяців тому +1

    I love when guys in the league are honest

  • @kasuel07
    @kasuel07 10 місяців тому +2

    Excellent interview!! Love Doc. Brilliant mind in bball. I'd love to see him pop up on a few sports shows hear and there, maybe announce a few games. Likeable guy!

  • @mikewatts662
    @mikewatts662 11 місяців тому +27

    Sheesh. Great interview from Doc. Guy is super intelligent. Easy to see how he has stayed employed as a coach for so long.

    • @noahcrouse9789
      @noahcrouse9789 11 місяців тому +8

      Living off that 2008 titles for YEARS, good riddance doc

    • @rohandunbar2072
      @rohandunbar2072 11 місяців тому +2

      Clearly Bill was trying not to ruffle doc's feathers

    • @elzrobinson3307
      @elzrobinson3307 11 місяців тому

      @@noahcrouse9789 🤡

    • @blikketty77
      @blikketty77 11 місяців тому +2

      That's his problem, you listen to the dude on a podcast, and he sounds like a genius both at strategy, analysis, and handling people. But then he coaches a team, and makes mind blowing bad decisions, no adjustments, and then when his team fails, it's clear the stars ain't standing up saying "that's our guy".
      It's easy to say and do the right thing when the pressure is not on.

    • @firingallcylinders2949
      @firingallcylinders2949 11 місяців тому +1

      His teams throw out clunkers in big playoff games consistently. As soon as I saw the Sixers were going to game 7 with Doc I knew it was over.

  • @juju-vl7oj
    @juju-vl7oj 11 місяців тому +43

    How often does Doc take any responsibility for anything?
    Always blaming circumstances, litterally every team every year has tough circumstances to some degree except maybe the 2017 Warriors who only faced adversity for like the first month or 2 of the season getting adjusted playing together. Sometimes Docs team has a legitimate excuse to not win , but often they lose and are relatively healthy compared to everyone else and have the talent to beat whoever they lost to.

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 11 місяців тому +9

      Who did he blame? Doc is simply describe his experience from his perspective. He says "we" because that's how leaders talk. He is a top 5 winning coach in NBA history. And here you are blowing a load because he's not beating himself up over Harden and Embiid disappearing in game 7.

    • @ky6632
      @ky6632 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@Vincent Salamatino FACTS..... both those guys have MVPs and they somehow need a coach to get them going in a game 7. You watch the Joker close out the Heat, and there wasn't shit Malone did. He ranchis starters out there... Joker just put everyone on his back down the stretch to close the game.

    • @DuhShazey
      @DuhShazey 11 місяців тому +2

      @@ky6632 murray hits shots usually because he is in his prime and gets 25ppg usually. Harden doesnt hit anything sometimes and thats a problem.

    • @rohandunbar2072
      @rohandunbar2072 11 місяців тому +3

      @@Byronic19134 top 5 in your book, ESPN rank him 15th

    • @jackzeldon2883
      @jackzeldon2883 11 місяців тому

      where did he deflect blame? James HArden is a disaster & Philly gave up 2 - #1 picks for his fat azz - do you realize Jimmy Butler & Harden were born 14 days apart??? Harden plays 10 yrs older..... Philly is a Mess - 6 GM's in 12 yrs under current ownership & each GM been a disaster.... Hiring Nurse was Laughable - 100% Morey CYA move... Embiid need to Demand a trade

  • @nickhaser221
    @nickhaser221 11 місяців тому

    Props to Doc for doing this interview

  • @chrisvillanueva5307
    @chrisvillanueva5307 11 місяців тому

    Loved thisss

  • @iTuber012
    @iTuber012 11 місяців тому +67

    Haven't watched yet but I fully expect Doc to blame everyone and take zero percent of the blame

    • @petergianakopoulos4926
      @petergianakopoulos4926 11 місяців тому +13

      Spot on

    • @WalterModel45
      @WalterModel45 11 місяців тому +15

      He does to Embiid what Embiid does to their teamtes 😂
      Thats why they fit in Philly

    • @reBornMiles
      @reBornMiles 11 місяців тому +8

      Definitely his fault the MVP and James Harden played like dogshit in game 7.

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 11 місяців тому

      ​@@petergianakopoulos4926Who does he blame?

    • @voiceofreason2771
      @voiceofreason2771 11 місяців тому +1

      Thats exactly what he did

  • @HomieeeBuzzz
    @HomieeeBuzzz 11 місяців тому +5

    Biggest choker in the history of sports. God bless his heart.

  • @Uhavelowiq
    @Uhavelowiq 11 місяців тому +2

    Doc seems like a great coach.

  • @ainnocent
    @ainnocent 11 місяців тому +1

    The fact there is an actual youtube video highlighting the beef these two had...to this..
    Is actually pretty wild, and I love it! Bury the hatchet.

  • @jasonbrown0910
    @jasonbrown0910 11 місяців тому +5

    Rivers low key throwing Harden under the bus. This dude's ego is something else

    • @JayBrad_TLM
      @JayBrad_TLM 11 місяців тому

      But he didn’t tell a lie …. James Harden’s style of basketball does not equal post season success.

  • @3411Chad
    @3411Chad 11 місяців тому +3

    Remarkable how many commenters on here are looking right past the person who is right near (if not at) the top in being responsible for the failures: Doc Rivers. His finger-pointing in all directions without ONCE taking any responsibility himself is very telling. He's coached three teams with near, future, and current hall of famers all over the place and has one title to show for it; three top 50 all time players were on that team and Rondo might sneak in the hall of fame too. I think the average NBA coach does better with what he's been handed than Doc did.

  • @andrewhunt2429
    @andrewhunt2429 10 місяців тому

    This is one of the best sports podcast episodes I think I’ve seen. Everyone should watch the full episode

  • @Clutchkila1
    @Clutchkila1 11 місяців тому +2

    Doc talks in circles, takes credit for anything he can and blames his players for not stepping up in losses. What a coach!

  • @WhelmedButReady
    @WhelmedButReady 11 місяців тому +3

    This is like the basketball equivalent to 2 rappers who had beef joining on a podcast together years after the fact.

  • @Modeek6
    @Modeek6 11 місяців тому +10

    Joel has been coddled and places blame on everyone else when the sixers lose. He only cared for the mvp. He proved that last year and this year. Unpopular opinion, joel painted a target on himself when he and doc threw ben simmons under the bus and blamed him. Now ben is gone and they still haven’t gotten past 2nd round and doc got fired.

  • @CreditLiving
    @CreditLiving 11 місяців тому

    Absolutely Phenomenal

  • @bruceg8612
    @bruceg8612 11 місяців тому

    Good interview.

  • @veljkocetnik3050
    @veljkocetnik3050 11 місяців тому +5

    we forget how young he is?! hes 29, Lebron won at 27, MJ at 28 and they took some time to mature.. Jokic is 28 and hed probably won before if all the guys werent hurt
    Embild got only to second round

  • @YvngGoat_
    @YvngGoat_ 11 місяців тому +3

    Doc said imma let the clip spray ever since he got fired 😂😂😂😂

  • @DAY1K_
    @DAY1K_ 11 місяців тому

    Great podcast

  • @claydouglas2526
    @claydouglas2526 11 місяців тому

    Doc is a great interview

  • @andyh4518
    @andyh4518 11 місяців тому +22

    So who's the next improbable guest? LeBron? Isiah Thomas?

    • @Two-ToneMoonStone
      @Two-ToneMoonStone 11 місяців тому +2

      No way Isiah ever happens. I could see LeBron but only after he retires.

    • @allenmobley8444
      @allenmobley8444 11 місяців тому +3

      Lebron only does interviews with people on his payroll and “yes men”

    • @superdopehiphop
      @superdopehiphop 11 місяців тому

      @@allenmobley8444 LeBron hate truly a disease.

    • @superdopehiphop
      @superdopehiphop 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Two-ToneMoonStone no way LeBron ever happens

    • @Two-ToneMoonStone
      @Two-ToneMoonStone 11 місяців тому +1

      @@superdopehiphop I think it's more likely than Isiah. Doc and BS didn't like each other for pretty petty reasons, LeBron's reason to dislike Bill is way less petty and Isiah's is even less petty than that. Plus Isiah has no reason to do this interview.

  • @JulianBennett73
    @JulianBennett73 11 місяців тому +18

    I guess Doc no longer considers Bill an idiot?

    • @mdquaglia
      @mdquaglia 11 місяців тому +6

      Doc may not be the best coach, but he isn't dumb. He's staying in the public eye enough to stay relevant for his next gig, whether it be TV or coaching.

    • @heigherheights21
      @heigherheights21 11 місяців тому +2

      How about the team making open shots thats basketball if you don't make shots how can you win 😂😂😂

    • @Peanutdenver
      @Peanutdenver 11 місяців тому

      @@mdquaglia Doc's a great reg season coach...he just cant or doesn't feel the need to motivate his players when it gets extra spicy in the playoffs. He also struggles to take responsibility during losses. He needs to take that next step or keep adding L's when up 3-1 in a series.

    • @rohandunbar2072
      @rohandunbar2072 11 місяців тому

      @@Peanutdenver he's incapable of making adjustments, can't stagger starters and bench players minutes, too stubborn, high ego, never takes accountability

  • @oliebraz
    @oliebraz 11 місяців тому

    Wow! never thought I’d see this.

  • @jdkay1390
    @jdkay1390 11 місяців тому +1

    Great coach

  • @edwinfolk8090
    @edwinfolk8090 11 місяців тому +4

    Job of the coach is to raise the level of the players around Embiid. It is not JoJos job. It’s Doc Rivers’

  • @sammahmood843
    @sammahmood843 11 місяців тому +4

    I always get the sense that Doc never really learns from his disastrous failures in the playoffs. He seems to think it was a few bad plays and poor health.

    • @coryjohnson7755
      @coryjohnson7755 11 місяців тому

      His famous line after the Houston loss about losing due to 'bad luck'.

  • @orlandowilliams6
    @orlandowilliams6 11 місяців тому

    Wasn't as bad as I thought based on the sound bites.Nice work. I love how honest doc is.

  • @andrewrosas7425
    @andrewrosas7425 11 місяців тому

    After watching the beef history between you two and now to see this. I’m happy to see it.

  • @lmach00
    @lmach00 11 місяців тому +3

    This has to be one of the most unexpected talks about basketball ever.

  • @CommanderNoah99
    @CommanderNoah99 11 місяців тому +3

    I cannot believe this happened

  • @jihadijohn9408
    @jihadijohn9408 11 місяців тому +2

    “The truth keeps changing”

  • @MooreTainted
    @MooreTainted 11 місяців тому

    💯 mill.. good stuff

  • @SSJRome
    @SSJRome 11 місяців тому +32

    The same thing that went wrong with every other team he’s coached lol

  • @michaelahurt
    @michaelahurt 11 місяців тому +1

    I forgot how great Doc is at media stuff. He hasn’t lost a beat

  • @grayclaw1391
    @grayclaw1391 11 місяців тому

    Way to go Doc: Do your thing.

  • @fateriddle14
    @fateriddle14 11 місяців тому +35

    In the middle of this amazing podcast, Bill was trying to set Doc up with a set of questions: "What's wrong with Harden in playoffs", "How hard is it to coach Harden", "who's the ideal 3rd guy for 76ers if it's not Harden", he phrase it a bit differently but that's eccentially the guided trap he laid out, and Doc answered those question with sincerety and class, not throwing Harden undered bus. Props to him.

    • @CosmicGrind
      @CosmicGrind 11 місяців тому

      Bullshit he didn't!

    • @back2back379
      @back2back379 11 місяців тому +12

      He must've learned his lesson from throwing Ben Simmons under the bus. Also from throwing his Clippers teams under the bus when he said that that cast had no chance to win a Championship.

    • @kashparty3034
      @kashparty3034 11 місяців тому +7

      I agree Doc love deflecting but I feel like this interview was more revealing about Harden and his inability to evolve his basketball tendencies

    • @rohandunbar2072
      @rohandunbar2072 11 місяців тому +2

      @@back2back379 doc did not throw Ben under the bus doc was the 1 who said "I don't need Ben to shoot"..."you want me to bench 1 of my best players"? doc babied Ben way too much keeping him in the 4th quarters watching Ben running from the ball

    • @back2back379
      @back2back379 11 місяців тому +7

      @@rohandunbar2072 right, and then once they were eliminated, he said he doesn’t know the answer to the question as to if they can win with Ben as the starting guard. What do you think that is? I also like how you just ignored the part about the clippers, but that’s cool 👍

  • @uncleshit
    @uncleshit 11 місяців тому +4

    “I want to call him an idiot but I am too classy for that”

  • @siniister710
    @siniister710 11 місяців тому

    when I saw Doc was on I was pleased they must have squashed the beef. Doc would be a great addition to the podfamily

  • @scarlettjung4531
    @scarlettjung4531 11 місяців тому +1

    I literally just watched the beef video yesterday lol

  • @jacobanderson2970
    @jacobanderson2970 11 місяців тому +3

    This is Doc's interview for coming back to the Celtics haha

  • @billyfresh23
    @billyfresh23 11 місяців тому +12

    almost every playoff series over the past 5 years would’ve went differently for the sixers if embiid didn’t play so loose/careless with the ball, didn’t try to foul bait all the time and didn’t settle for jumpers so much. hopefully he figures that out for himself before it’s too late (age and health)

    • @kanajingly8957
      @kanajingly8957 11 місяців тому

      What are you talking about? The 76ers blew the series to the celtics because Doc didn't make an adjustment for when the Celtics inserted Rob Williams into the lineup and opened up the rim for the celtics.
      Is that not a coaching issue? Screw Glen Rivers.

  • @SupaNatural28
    @SupaNatural28 10 місяців тому

    WOW THESE 2 HAVING A CIVIL CONVERSATION. Never thought I'd see the day.

  • @matthewspangler2708
    @matthewspangler2708 11 місяців тому

    Two great basketball minds.

  • @Goodmorningmg
    @Goodmorningmg 11 місяців тому +7

    I know it’s a serious step down from where he’s been as a legend in the league, but he would be such an incredible assistant coach in Toronto. You can tell he connects to players on a different level

    • @rohandunbar2072
      @rohandunbar2072 11 місяців тому +10

      Legend???...what legend are you referring to? There's not a coach alive who couldn't bring that 2010 Boston Celtics team to 3 championships, doc had a super team, won 1 chip, made 2 finals, and hasn't been past the 2nd round since 2012, lost 10 straight game 7s, blew three 3-1 leads, guess you mean legendary choker

  • @aaronbrown1758
    @aaronbrown1758 11 місяців тому +21

    Is Doc ever self-critical?

    • @Bonezone84
      @Bonezone84 11 місяців тому +1

      Nope

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 11 місяців тому +1

      No he's just wildy successful in life.

    • @rohandunbar2072
      @rohandunbar2072 11 місяців тому

      Remember "would you ask Pop that question" 🤣😂😅 this guy is something else

  • @friedbergje
    @friedbergje 11 місяців тому

    Props to doc

  • @Chonsta
    @Chonsta 11 місяців тому +2

    i just watched their beef episode yesterday 😂

  • @BurtHandsome
    @BurtHandsome 11 місяців тому +6

    Maybe Joel would stay healthy if he didn't fall down every play

  • @TheShachattack13
    @TheShachattack13 11 місяців тому +6

    This feels like the time Kobe and shaq did that staredown 1 on 1 interview to signify the truce to their feud

  • @scandelez
    @scandelez 11 місяців тому +1

    Couldn’t be more surprised to see doc rivers on this pod lol.

  • @frico2838
    @frico2838 11 місяців тому

    Bill, can I send you a link for a nice webcam like JJ Reddick? Great pod, but we need a higher resolution to see your reactions. Its an overlooked detail, but so important for the youtube medium*.

  • @Cyberclone8790
    @Cyberclone8790 11 місяців тому +3

    doc rivers is a solid coach but part of those failures were adjustments he needed to make. He's kinda being used as a scapegoat tho cause harden and Embiid both dropped duds in back to back games

  • @user-ze6ob3cs7m
    @user-ze6ob3cs7m 11 місяців тому +11

    I really dont understand why contenders keep giving Doc Rivers a chance.

    • @smtiewul
      @smtiewul 11 місяців тому +4

      Cause he’s more successful than 90 percent of nba coaches..

    • @DuhShazey
      @DuhShazey 11 місяців тому +2

      @@smtiewul so successful he hasnt been past round 2 since 2008 lmaooo

    • @SomeChink
      @SomeChink 11 місяців тому

      @@smtiewulhow?
      every current head coach with a title is better than him, and there’s young guys coming up like Udoka and Monty and probably more I’m missing who are better

    • @Aggrandize.__
      @Aggrandize.__ 11 місяців тому +1

      @@DuhShazeytbh 2010 but same 💩 different 🚽

  • @Noeyhefner
    @Noeyhefner 11 місяців тому

    I just got recommended a video on rivers vs simmons beef last night and now today they are doing a podcast lmaoo life is interesting

  • @KevinDurantEasy
    @KevinDurantEasy 11 місяців тому

    Damn. Doc spittin

  • @scandelez
    @scandelez 11 місяців тому +5

    Doc wanted out of Boston because he didn’t want to rebuild and they’ve experienced more success than him during these 10 years LOL. Gift that keeps on giving.