Will the Bradley Beal Trade Work Out for the Suns? | The Bill Simmons Podcast
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2023
- The Ringer’s Bill Simmons and Ryen Russillo break down the Bradley Beal trade to the Phoenix Suns.
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Joe House is missing for this, as he's busy driving Beal to the airport.
I need a live 24hr camera on House right now! 😂
@@MrAaronBrown1 You'll be House Watching (not Sitting).
😂😂😂😂😂
I love when these guys get together and talk hoops so much more nuanced then your regular media ESPN and FS1
No it’s not lol.
you mean to tell me you don't like listening to racists that sound like tracy morgan after a lobotomy?
@@bacardibum Bill and Ryen do the same things but pretend they don’t. Ryen talks in circles for 5 minutes before throwing out hot takes like “LeBron is a horrible leader”. They are no different, they just have more time to do the same thing
@@chasingfelix3609 they are the best in the business.
Until you get Ben talking Boston.
“Hulk Hogan still looks like he’s Hulk Hogan even tho he’s not Hulk Hogan”. Phenomenal
Is Joe House punching walls right now?
Why did they do this without him?
Anger is the second stage of grieving. He's probably still in stage one which is denial.
House is an idiot anyways
John Wall(s)?
I think this is all he wanted; get worse shed the contract.
Phoenix had to do this. They’d have to fill out their roster the exact same way, regardless of doing this deal. This is basically Shamet and 6 seconds for Beal. CP3 wasn’t going to come back, regardless. The KD deal sealed their fate. Instead of having KD, Booker, and Shamet with a bunch of minimums, they get KD, Booker, and Beal with a bunch of minimums and whatever they get for or from Ayton.
Not exactly because they could have waived cp3 and had their full mle and bi annual but that mat get 3-4 non min guys at best. So this is still probably the better option.
they could have got porzingis or even kuzma lmao they picked the worst guy from the wizards
@@SSGourmet702 No they couldn't have
porzingus is getting trade and so is kuzma new wizards owners want to rebuild
@@ghostrider2698 Kuzma is a free agent. KP might be as well.
"Who's gonna guard tatum in the finals?" lol, Tatum guards himself in the finals/conference finals Bill
Impressive how Beal is only 1 year older than Zach Lavine. I thought he was way older than he actually is
He's basically 2 years older but still it seems like he's played a lot longer than Lavine
I am shocked, shocked I tell you, that Simmons brought up a Celtics team.
Like Big 3s started in Boston in 08...😏
😂😂😂😂
@@doriandenard5846 big threes didn't start with Boston, but Boston set the standard for how big three's were constructed for the next decade plus
So unexpected
@@peterfalkson6730 true...pay your way to a title instead of building team chemistry, then wreck the franchise for a decade or so....
As a Suns fan I know this isn't going to happen but to me the best use of Beal is how the Spurs used Manu Ginobili. Having him come off of the bench, still playing 32-34 minutes, to me would be the best use of Beal. It allows you to stagger Durant and Booker minutes so they always have at least some combination of Durant/Booker/Beal, it gives you a strong bench player who can get you points, maybe protects his body more. They also need to have an offense more similar to the Warriors, a motion based offense, so it's less iso focused. Booker and Durant are great iso players but they could make their lives easier running more motion. As a Suns fan, I can dream, it's about all we can do.
If that is what you want, then just make Beal to be starter in name. 5 minutes into the game, Beal comes out, then stagger Durant and Booker minutes so they always have at least some combination of Durant/Booker/Beal.
Beal off the bench???? You have lost your mind
@@came7494 Manu did it, and Manu was a better player than Beal.
@@shorewall Manu's ball handling was almost as good as prime Harden where he could pilot an offense (either from the 2nd unit or with the Duncan lineups). Beal is not on that level as a ball handler and playmaker. So to get the most out of him as an off ball guy he needs a point guard to get him to his spots.
He's making 50 mil a year, they don't have the money for any other starter quality players
House is thrilled for the rebuild
Suns screwed up not trading Ayton and Crowder to Atlanta for Collins and Capela. Both teams wanted to get off these assets, and Phx never used Ayton offensively for anything more than what Capela would have given them.
Ayton is solid top 10 rebounder 11th in fg% avg 18 pts and only 24 yrs old
That’s what I’m saying. Murray, Collins, & Capela for CP3, Ayton, Shamet, & some picks
Ayton has a jump shot, Capela does not
@@roycedot I don’t think the suns really need another jump shooter bruh
@@roycedot and the Suns never utilize it. That's what I mean, they turned him into Capela even tho he can do so much more.
Ryen just looks like he’s confused and stressed the whole video😂
Bill’s Mad Dog impression was impressive
Wizards did a good move by trading Beal. Now they have cap space to absorb bad contracts attached with 1st round picks. They’ll also be top 5 in the draft lottery for the next 2-3 years
yeah 'good move' not getting a single 1st round pick for Beal...
i mean they always in the lottery lol they bottom feeders
That NTC makes it impossible to get anything more. Plus the fact that Beals agent is the father of the Suns CEO, it seems like he would Beal would just decline trades to any other team.
We'll see which of those teams with picks actually bites especially with the CBA changes not taking full effect till next year. But as a lower team with no real headroom for their future, its a great time to bottom out by the time the new CBA rules start. Better to follow how the OKC Thunder have built their team full of mostly first round picks.
@@roycedot Phoenix couldn’t even offer a 1st anyways 😀 how do you think they got Durant?
Bradley Beal is going to have no excuse. He’s going to get some seriously good looks at the basket, most teams don’t have the defensive capabilities to defend kd or Booker as individuals never mind them both being on the court together. If your a 50million guy you better succeed in this situation.
The problem is he's a star getting paid super star money. And because of his contract the Suns have no room to add depth. The most they can do is trade Ayton for pieces, but even then kd and Beal, two older guys who have been injured the past couple of years, are going to have to play a lot.
Beal is also on a team that is expected to win for the first time. Its going to be a culture shock for him.
Excuse for what? Nobody expected him to win anything anyway.
@@Byronic19134 they are now
Nope
The Wizards front office was hamstrung so hard by their predecessors signing Beal to that ridiculous contract. So ridiculous that they just wanted him gone to start the rebuild in earnest.
i think beal wanted out and the wizards said ok we respect you sure
@@SSGourmet702 I mean it helps Beal has a no-trade clause in his contract (even as he is going to the Suns). So Beal isn't changing zip codes unless he is 100% sure of it. Especially when he's still getting paid about 57k by 26-27 season.
It was the owner, he paid all of his main guys, first Arenas, then Wall, then Beal.
Gil spoke on it, he said the owner told him - you stayed during the hard times, so I'm rewarding you.
All three were terrible calls btw, but he did pay them big time.
@@t4d0W57k for beal would be bargain of the century lol might have missed a couple of zero's there
What you guys are forgetting is Beal came into the league as more of an off ball scorer who was compared to ray allen I think his 3p% goes up with more open looks and less usage he obviously could always shoot he has beautiful form
Possibly. He's less been a catch and shoot 3-pointer (where he enjoyed his best shooting seasons) in recent years and more of a pull up 3-point shooter because the talent around him sucked and they needed a playmaker.
@@j0hnw4d3this narrative is tired af kd had what 4 scoring titles playing with Westbrook? He’s led the league in assists 3 times.
the nba is in a great place where teams can't just build/pay for/trade their way to a title. Despite how great this trio looks on paper, i'm not sold they'll win the finals next year, let alone even make it.
A Heat deal with Lowry and Duncan plus 2 picks would've been a lot better fit wise.
I was wondering the same thing about the no-trade clause. Glad that got answered.
Im hyped for next season already!!!
I don't understand why everyone is high on this trade tbh. Beal is injury prone and can't play defense.
Everyone is down on this trade. You watched the video right??
Beal,KD, and even Booker are injury prone.. I don't think they win a ring..
Simmons with the on the fly God like metaphor. “Kevin Durant is Hulk Hogan.” The more I think about the more true it sounds
Alot of people are treating this trade with immense hate on both sides. Liked that you guys pointed out some points of good that could come from this for both sides :)
Isiah Thomas didn't "zag," he "zeked." 😂 The Suns will be a Jekyll & Hyde team next season, brilliant at times when the scorers get cooking, but won't last long or into the playoffs as injuries and exhaustion catch up with them, compounded by not having enough depth and defense.
Yup, incredible regular season team that'll get exposed and destroyed I'm the playoffs unless there management can work some serious magic to fill out the roster with some defense.
@@Dnero518so what about that depth now hahha😂
Keep posting NBA content in this channel, please. For me it's more fun. Thanks
I love Ryen n Bill together. They have great insight along with some comedic moments. Bradley Beal will thrive in this situation defenses cant focus on him. The conversation regarding Isaiah Thomas was hilarious. Suns will have a hard time winning the championship, but will be really good next year.
Even tho that contract is bad and Brad is basically exiting his prime it’s mind boggling they didn’t end up with at least Ayton or 1 first rounder ? Maybe even 2? I feel bad for wizards fan smh and I ain’t even one .. smh .. now to Phx these guys better win one cuz if not they gonna be another Brooklyn situation ..
Beal is getting paid 52M, but playing at a 26M level.
The Wizards easily won the trade. CP3 is better than Beal and healthier
if only phoenix took Haliburton instead of Jalen Smith 3 years ago....
I feel
Same way about Wiseman (who was a project that needs a ton of work
If only phx took luka instead of deandre ayton. That’s the perfect example of ALWAYS draft for talent over fit. And charlotte might make the same mistake and take miller over scoot.
@@him4882 Back then alot of people felt Ayton would be the next Patrick Ewing or David Robinson. Some thought Luka would be a superstar but at least half questioned his lack of athleticism.
@@him4882 yeah what juju said. ayton was at the time more of a consensus number one pick over luka. but in 2020 phx's biggest need was a steady young point guard to backup CP and eventualy take over so Haliburton seemed like the perfect chose there at 10 considering he fell to them and they as bill use to say ziged...
Bill Simmons is crushing the content. Best journalist in the game hands down.
They should have traded Ayton first. Timing was key here, bad trade for Phoenix
Couldn’t.
@@DomMars58- what was the restriction?
They were never going to trade ayton first. Especially with Chris’ contract becoming guaranteed on the 28th.
@@cyroneto1515 Nobody wants Ayton.
@@Byronic19134 and thats the point. now he has even less value. and you have team with 30 mil over salary cap with 4 guys and only 10 mil before hard cap.
Beal I think is the unique type of star who can thrive as the #1 or #2 scoring option
He just cant be the #1 or #2 player on a championship team
I know that sounds contradictory but imagine Beal on the heat this year with bam and Jimmy where he might be the 3rd best player but he’s the #1 offensive option and that’s the unique aspect of beal’s game right now
Well with the Heat Beal has 2/3 other better ball handlers than him in Jimmy, Bam and Herro. Which is why he could give some good offensive nights because he could play his preferred off-ball role. The problem is Pat probably wasn't feeling the 50k Beal would be earning by 24-25 season and until 26-27.
I love this take and can totally see how he'd be a better fit alongside Bam
I really want bill to be on every episode I love his takes on sports I want to hear im talk about everything that happens and I love is biase thing he does with his celtics bcuz im that way with my bulls
He's just legit a worse+smaller DBook. So when push comes to shove you'd rather have Book doing isos. Then you'd rather have KD doing isos. He doesn't shoot 3s like you'd want. Just feels super redundant. With that being said hes definitely better and a better fit than CP and Shamet so it's interesting.
Basically, it's the Sun's owner's way of saying he is coming for the Joker! Seeing the team that beats your team after being picked as the favorites, just won the championship and the very man that put you to the ground was named Finals MVP, Joker might have left him a really bad taste. 😂
Suns we’re gonna be snapshot in amber whether they had Beal or didn’t have Beal so might as well Beal
Dumping beal and letting both kuz and porzingis walk in 3 years will be a GENIUS move. Washington is guaranteed to have top 5 picks and by bottoing out the books can absorb contracts for extra picks. All they have to do is nail their drafts
Yeah, sucking for 5 years is pure genius. Wiz fans are rockin for takin a mockin.
I wouldn’t mind the Dubs trading Poole for Kristoff, Poole is the worst defender in a long time, let him take 40 shots a game, your Wizards will be in lottery city
@@user-ti2me2br8g They had no other path to ever get better this is the only way
@@andu1854 I thought about this exact deal myself earlier. Golden state would be IMPOSSIBLE with a healthy zinger
"All they have to do is nail their drafts" - piece of cake, lmao
Bills mad dog impersonation, first time I’ve heard it and wow…spot on.
As a way of cutting back on Durant's minutes, i think it can work. They will need to get lucky with minimum salary guys though.
There's no defensive wing, they all need the ball to be effective and there's no depth. Also, no one wants Ayton, even Phoenix. Gonna be interesting.
Also... salary cap issues??? Anyone??
They all play off the ball and pass well tho...
Bradley Beal is a better spot up 3pt shooter than he is off the dribble...
KD is a sniper wherever he's shooting from...
Booker is a sniper wherever he's shooting from...
Lmao you didn't learn anything from watching KD with the Warriors? That dude can play in any offense he wants and dominate.
@@enterpassword3313kd is not that good of a passer
@@enterpassword3313 none of them are known as good passers or off the ball players. They're scorers.
Why do you guys not broadcast your videos on Spotify?
Word outa Washington is that Beal is an excellent facilitator and can help fill that role with the Suns.
Here comes the Bill Simmons "I told you so 4 months ago" pod
Haha this episode was perfect from top to bottom. When bill asks if the no trade clause is dead now and ryens like NO! No! Hahaha every point makes the trade even funnier 😂😂Gonna age better than Halle Barry
Booker will have to really play point.
Is it possible now for them, at the deadline, to trade Beal? Did that no - trade clause get waived for the whole of his contract, or just for this deal?
You cannot transfer a no-trade clause, I wouldn't think. I mean, he's been traded now, so that's all null and void.
When a star doesn’t leave in free agency, it usually means the front office has given him assurances that he can leave if he is not happy ‘just stay pleeeeease’
Ryen, ATCQ FOREVER!!! 😉 Midnight was absolutely their best work. Top 5 HIP-HOP album of all-time.
What's ridiculous about this is the previous FO not unloading Beal before needing to give a no-trade clause just to grasp onto any eventual trade compensation.
Not getting in on this current draft in exchange for being a middle team and getting some 2nds should be considered criminal.
For real, if I were a Wizards fan, I would sue for collusion, or more realistically just give up on the team until they show me something different.
Yeah, the Beal trade would’ve been amazing had they not done the KD trade. This is what it must’ve been like for the rest of the league when Isiah ran the Knicks.
Hilarious that bill doesn’t bring up KD playing with all these all stars. If it were Bron he would try and say that’s why he isn’t the GOAT
i just think the upgrade is worth the price in the first couple of years of this massive contract just because i prefer Beal taking those open shots Okogie and Craig were taking. I know that the defense will force whoever the 4th/5th guy will be in the lineup to take those shots next season anyway but there were so many times the Suns missed having the third option when CP3 was hurt. And sure Beal is more of a scorer than a shooter but I'm sure there will be plenty of times he will be setting the offense and producing catch and shoot opportunities for Booker and Durant. Health is my biggest fear with the squad, not fit
ok, i'm pretty low on beal, but saying beal wouldn't make much of a difference over landry shamet is lower than i've been on beal since his rookie year LOL
This years playoffs showed the importance of defense. The Heat, Lakers and Celtics came in with great defensive teams and Denver turned it on in the playoffs. Who is this Phoenix team plan on stopping? How does this help them stop the Jokic Murray 2 man game in the last 5 minutes of a game?
My assumption with this deal is that they're assuming KD will get hurt and Beal gives them a 2nd option when that happens. Either that, or they want to limit his minutes
I love the earnest expressions on Bill and Ryen’s faces when the other is speaking. Great chemsitry between you 2 👏🏻
I love this move for suns they fleeced the wizards and aren’t done yet still can make moves
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What moves😂😂
The Heati and the Lakers could not stop Denver either. The two best defensive teams.
Yea cuz they were hurt
@@tj-23 That’s a weak excuse to downplay their championship.
@@aricrudd6579 it’s not weak, it’s facts. Congrats to Denver tho
I guess I'm the only one who likes this move for Phoenix. They can now trade Ayton and get depth. We'll see how this plays out but to me Phoenix is a strong contender next season, and they gave up nothing (except a constantly hurt Chris Paul).
I’m a suns fan and I absolutely hate what’s going on here right now. Like bill said, if we still had those picks along with bridges and Johnson, I think that would be the way to go.
I’m a diehard suns fan as well. But look at this way, what was the reason we lost to the nuggets. First was the fact no one else could score if booker or KD wasn’t scoring especially when cp3 went down. Second we couldn’t defend a parked car in a driveway and we had no bench. Insert Beal and depending on what else we do this makes sense. Let’s say we use him like the spurs used Manu coming off the bench putting up his 22-25points while one of the stars rest. I miss bridges and what he gave the team but as good as cam Johnson was he was starting to have injury problems. So before it starts to get bad get rid of him four Kevin ******* Durant. Don’t care bout his injury history or anything it’s KD. And have draft picks mean nothing when we are trying to win now.. so from one suns fan to another just wait and see what else or who else we can get to get us a chip now.. I’ve heard crowder wants to comeback, Dillion brooks can be someone who may be willing to take a pay cut for a chip, we can still flip ayton for someone like capela or turner and a role player. Dwight Howard and boogie cousin still out there working hard on their craft.. so it’s see what ishbia, James Jones and Vogel can put in place to make us next year champions barring no major injuries throughout the season
Would u guys do Ayton for capela and dejounte?
I always thought the best setup is to have your 3rd scorer as someone great at playing without the ball like Klay, Ray Allen and so on
Long term, probably one of the worst trades ever done by the Suns. In one year, they have decimated their championship run team, only keeping Booker, Payne and Ayton. Beal is incredible but his role is a scorer. All the things the Suns need to compete he doesn’t bring to the table that hasn’t already been brought by Book and KD. New ownership is lost in the proverbial sauce
Booker and KD are both + playmakers. Book was 6.8 assists a game prior to CP3's arrival. And he's much better know. He was on ball a lot more in the playoffs.
Lol the Beal disrespect is at all time levels, you can always tell who actually has watched him play
It would be amazing if these talking heads ever came back 12 months later and said “boy did I ever get that wrong!” 😂
Bill makes a great point about usage rate ... we thought Ayton was unhappy last year?! Dude has some game but will be relegated to just being a screen setter and rebounder, unless the Big 3 are willing to sacrifice major stats. I don't see it.
Shitting on Phx when they make a good move
Shocker
Simply put, the Suns are going to be in contention for the next several years assuming they can stay healthy. That really SHOULD be the goal. KD knows he 'got dem boys' now, so he's going to be extremely motivated to cash out another chip before he's done. I like the move. The team remains competitive.
Isn’t Durant himself getting older too?
As a long time Wizards fan there’s a dichotomy to everything in this discussion. When it comes to the wizards side the amalgamation of the Beal deal is an all time bad move; however, being able to get out of his contract in the situation we’re in is a positive. When it comes to the Phoenix side saying Beal can’t be an elite third option is asinine; however, it can be close to guaranteed that his injury history will lead to him costing them a series. If Phoenix’s big three is healthy they’re the best team in the west, but stamp it, they won’t be healthy.
2 words: Where's House?
i agree 100 with both them beal is just a scorer not a defender or playmaker which is what the suns need
Beal has averaged 23 ppg the last two seasons and has missed 72 games. Even the two years he averaged 30 ppg he missed 45 games. Between him and Durant being injury plagued I'd be a little worried they even make it somewhat healthy to the playoffs, let alone win a series or two.
Recap: wizards were idiots for giving away Beal. Suns were idiots for taking him
If I’m the Suns management this is what I’m doing.
Talk to KD,Beal,Book & Ayton:
“All 4 of you will play together for 8 mins a night
4th quarters is Book & KD (primarily KD unless Beal or Book is hot)”
“3 of you will play together for 18 mins a night with Ayton being the primary 3 man”
“2 of you will play together for 40 mins a night”
“All of you will play at least 36 mins a night the only exception will be KD”
Talk to Beal & Book:
“I need at least 50 pts & 12 assist with commitment to passing lanes & help defense”
Talk to KD:
“I need you to play 3 dribble basketball from every spot on the floor outside the paint. Post play included and I need you to learn how to give DHOs to Book & Beal”
“Defensively, your cardio is off ball defense & defensive rebounding, I need you averaging 25, 8 & 4 with 8 boards all being defensive”
Talk to Ayton:
“I need one championship out of you, after that I’ll trade you wherever you want to go”
“This is your audition to teams,
4 on the floor (P&R, DHOs, Defense & Rebounding)
3 on the floor (intro to mid & low post) 3rd option regulation
2 on the floor (DOMINATE)
Sign NO ONE that is
Older or smaller than Bradley Beal & guarantee a commitment to 3 point shooting, defense & rebounding prior to signing.
Sign 2 rebounders & weight at least 260-270. 3 point shooting is a bonus.
Talk to Vogel:
“Defense & Rebounding is your priority, keep it simple. 2 man actions both on & off the ball, use everyone but Beal & Book as screeners”
“Keep KD well rested in the regular season and as well rested as possible in the playoffs let Book & Beal lead the offense never let KD bring the ball up & give Ayton the free throw extended & paint use & challenge Ayton’s versatility
Pre All Star break OT periods keep KD out! I don’t care what he say, count on Book, Beal & Ayton to bring us home”
They are severely underrating Beal’s playmaking
I don’t love the move from phoenix standpoint cause your locked into this squad and have to fill out the rest of the team with mid level guys. Plus their issues were more so on the defensive end not offensively. You have D Book and KD, what phoenix needed was more grit players that don’t need the ball but are hustle players just who play hard all the time. But will be interesting to see of course if it can workout. I truly believe every player in the NBA has the necessary skills to play good defense cause if you are in the NBA you have basketball intelligence, athleticism and quickness speaking relative of course to be good enough and not just be lazy on that end of the court. If Frank Vogel can get KD and D Book to buy in defensively and Beal then they have a chance at winning the chip with Beal kinda having that Ray Allen Celtics game running off screens aka playing/moving without the ball more could possibly work.
So a role player that is exactly was that Suns needs
Guest they going the outscore teams route.
The salary cap is going up by another 75 million after next year. The Suns will be fine. The contracts for Booker, Beal, Durant will be underpaid contracts compared to guys making $60 million a year
I get the salary concerns but this trade was a no brainer
Thank you Ryen for stating what should've been obvious to the Suns' FO: They have long needed depth at the 1 to spell Chris Paul, so he could be fresh in the Playoffs.
And Vogel is not a good enough offensive coach to figure this out. Unless he has these guys play defense like they’ve never have in the past I don’t think it’ll work either. But if I’m a suns fan I’d be excited to see how it plays out.
PHX fans better hope these guys start the season fully conditioned and ready to go because they are going to have to log a lot of minutes throughout the season, not to mention how injury prone Durant and Beal have become. They are going to have no role players that will be able to "spell" them for long periods of time off the bench. If they trade Ayton and get some good role players and size it might work out. What's comical is how a lot the media (not including these guys) are now crowing them as next season's NBA champions. As a Nuggets fan, I love it because I know it motivates the hell out of the Nuggets when the press has already began pushing them down the totem pole of the NBA's elite teams only a few weeks after dismantling every team they faced in the playoffs. I hope the media continues to overlook the Nuggets next season as well. Kendrick Perkins and Skip Bayless would pick a 16 year old AAU team to beat Denver if they had the opportunity. The media as a whole are a joke.
Beal is gonna be singing an REM song in Phoenix while he's standing in the corner
5:32 how is Bradley Beal not gonna have the ball in his hand when he’s clearly going to be the point guard now
Book probably runs point, but either way I think Brad is gonna have the ball plenty. These guys are overreacting.
Don't forget jerome james and eventually channing frye ...thomas loved the bigs
Have Beale adjust his game to facilitate and play the point guard, like Bosh and Kevin Love adjusted to the stretch 5.
As a KD super fan and Wizards fan. I don’t like this trade for either side. None of them are natural playmakers and I think all 3 will have to sacrifice too much of their game. Would’ve preferred the suns traded cp3 and Ayton in a package did for quality role players.
Having said that, that’s a lot of offensive talent.
From the wizards side - i don’t see how you just don’t keep Beal and run it back until he okays a better deal. I don’t see any point of resigned Kuz and Porzingis now
Wizards are tanking now. Best place to be, other than winning in the playoffs.
The best trade ever with the old CBA and worst during the new CBA
I think the Wiz front office jumped the gun when they could have found a better return had they just waited. Sure they're getting CP3's 30M that could come off the books but they could have found similar salary to come of their books.
Miami would probably jump at a Lowry & Oladipo (a combined expiring 39M) plus Caleb Martin & Nikola Jovic plus 2 1sts for Beal & Taj Gibson.
How about the Knicks with Rose & Fournier's salary,some 1sts plus a player like Quickley and/or Toppin?
Everyone wants to keep pointing to Beal's no trade clause but had Washington gone to him saying "hey we found a couple playoff teams that would give you a much better chance of winning than here and we'd get a decent return for you" he'd probably have helped the team out there.
Bill saying Beal takingvthat contract is a red flag is crazy, who wouldnt take 50mil
His point was he doesn't care about winning because he knew it would cripple Washington moving forward.
@@Byronic19134 ya I guess but who's turning that dowm
@@davidstenner3136 It was in the context of "Does Beal have that dog in him?" And taking that contract, with a NTC, for a shitty team, proves that he does not, in fact, have that dog in him.
The Wizards didn't get a lot back, but think of it like an "undo" button. They never should have given Beal that much to begin with, now the contract is off their hands and they can start over.
Throwing something crazy out there but what if Phoenix trades Booker for a good but different need type player like Siakam so Beal/Booker isn't a redundancy issue?
Finally somebody else thinking it I was wondering that I can't be the only one to think this is possible.
No way in Hell do the Suns trade Booker
I’ll say this, offense is going to be super hard to stop especially if they find a facilitator, and Beal wasn’t competing these last few years, now he gets to compete he’s going to play better, like mark m to Detroit type move, even tho their roster was little
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Filled out if they go this route trade DA for Myles turner and tj m
The real mistake was the KD trade. They had no latitude to build any depth after that trade for a non tier-1 player. Getting Beal for Paul is a win considering the corner they had painted themselves into. But it might be too late anyway.
Only if you knew what the upcoming CBA rules were going to be, but they did not.
This sounds like a comment that would usually be written by a Lebron fan.
I thought we were done with big3s.
We want House on the Washington segment!!! 🫵
You guys are kind of forgetting the Beal gets to choose where he wants to go. Not much the Wizards could really do
highly doubt it