After plugging in the numbers you will save .05 cents per mile on the diesel vs the Hemi with etorque. With Def fluid, increase on diesel fuel and increased oil changes it will take 60k miles to break even. After the first 60K miles its money in the bank unless it self destructs like the gen 2 engine. If you are planning on rolling miles its a very worth while option.
I towed my 6000lb trailer with the 1st gen ecodiesel and the brand new EcoBoost H.O. So the EcoBoost definitely makes more power, it was rated at 450hp, it's very fast. My impression while towing, is that the engine is always screaming over 5000k rpm, very noisy. Also the F150 has some serious squat, it had to be jacked up with weight distribution bars set super tight before it would stop dragging the hitch. The ecodiesel idled super quiet around 2000-3000rpm the whole time and had plenty of power and towed a lot quieter with more confidence. Also it had 4 corner air suspension and didn't squat at all with the exact same trailer. Still had to put weight distribution bars on the ecodiesel not due to squat but without the bars it felt like you were trying to tow on top of a water bed. So after weight distribution and anti-sway bar it tows way more confidently than the f150. So far our 14 ecodiesel has over 100k with 0 issues. Our 18 f150 H.O. has been traded in on a 19 Denali 6.2 and so far we hate the Denali. I think we will trade the Denali in on the Ram TRX when it comes out next year.
Informative video. Glad to see RAM addressed one of the issues with the gen -2 trucks. Overheating while towing was a fairly common complaint with them. Moving the turbo intercooler to the new location should help by getting it away from in front of the radiator. The shutters on the intercooler should also help in cold weather as well. When air cools in an intercooler it condenses and lets off water in liquid form. Gen-2 Eco's had issues with intercoolers freezing in cold weather unless you ran a winter front cover. The intercooler shutters should help eliminate this as well as improving fuel mileage, performance, & emissions. I'd still like to hear what they did to address the bottom end bearing issues, but I guess Ram will never own-up too they had a problem, I just hope they fixed it.
Looks like a nice engine. It's nice that they offer the diesel in all trim levels including Tradesman and Rebel. GM and Ford do not offer a half ton diesels in work truck or off road trims so that should be a competitive advantage for ram. I'm surprised that limited you towed with was only $56k. I would have thought the sticker price would be substantially higher. Great video Tim, very informative!
Good job as usual. What I like about this review is that, it reminds me of the great options we have with three great choices in the Diesel mid-size range.
Great video! Waiting for them to hit dealerships to trade in my 2012! BUT...aftermarket companies have been doing separate cooling for the turbo and engine for YEARS! RAM brags on this but when you order a bigger or solid aluminum intercooler, it's always been relocated under the radiator. Not a big selling point for me at all.
I love diesels but all the complex components modern diesels have to make it all happen worries me. Went with a tried and tested v8 for that reason. My old mk4 tdi 1.9L 4cyl 8v was rock solid. Very few emissions components, tuned to make 300wftlb/190whp and has over 350k.
Yes Tim, the “off road deleters” will hate me for it but these engines are able to perform better but still comply with emissions standards. No small feat the engine designers have been able to raise the bar with these more powerful and torquey engines that have useful torque down low AND I can drive this truck with a clear conscience and not feel I’m am polluting illegally nor do I have to worry about a 10,000$ fine. This is no small small feat engineering wise. The LP Egr will really help with plugged egrs, one ongoing issue for all old diesels. This is the cost of driving an efficient engine. I do my part to keep my diesel running as designed. This would not be happening had the US government not set higher and higher fuel economy standards. I think it is wonderful diesels beat gas engines by 25% in the thermal efficiency department. It boggles my mind that we’ve been driving around for over a century only usefully using 30% of the energy in our gasoline at a best thermal efficiency of 30%.
I have a 2014 ecodiesel. I loved my truck. Kept up with maintenance and never had an issue. Till...... it hit 135,000 miles. Engine went out. This isnt something new either. So many forums out there of ecodiesel owners having catastrophic failures from 30,000 to 150,000 miles. Then they do a recall to address it and all they do is flash the computer because of emissions. This isnt solving the problem of failures. Most i have read about are timing going bad, injectors going bad, and rods going bad. So now i have a truck sitting in my driveway. Dealership wants 12,000 dollars because they say the engine needs replaced!!!! This is complete BS!!!! Why cant the rods just be replaced?!?! I was deployed to Afghanistan when mopar announced they were putting a diesel engine in a 1500 series truck!!! As soon as i returned i bought mine with 17 miles on it!!! The recall doesn't even cover anything but emissions!!! This has been a known issue and should be addressed!!!
I really hope that with gm putting the middle child Duramax in the Tahoe/Suburban in 2021 that Jeep will put the Gen 3 ecodiesel in the new grand Wagoneer and Wagoneer , that would be awesome for off-roading/towing. They almost have to now to compete with GM.
5:35 closing the shutters, for 0.00001% fuel efficiency is wrong. I drive a eighteen wheeler (12+ years). Years ago we covered the radiator with a custom vinyl covers. Without air passing around the turbocharger. It would overheat and would need to be replaced. Summer or winter the exhaust manifold and turbocharger need air to stay within operating limits. Like pulling 80,000+ pounds up Donner pass.
Adding shutters for heat mitigation is great and all but what happens when I’m out in the middle of nowhere loaded heavy and the radiator shutter servo malfunctions in the full shut position. That’s gonna suck surely it’s got a failsafe similar to a automatic climate control door module.
All 2020 Ram ecodiesels shown on UA-cam have the same licence plate number. Could it be they all stand in line to test drive a red,white , etc color with the same plate number . The test area is the same place shown in all videos so far. Great truck though , have one a year earlier and almost time for a trade.
Im sorry but are you guys saying the charged air cooler is before the cold side of the turbo?.... thats doesnt really make sense to me. Can you fact check that? Im fairly certain that it should be after the turbo cold side before the intake plenum. I cold be wrong im basing everything on my knowledge on 4 cylinder turbo gas engines. Isn't a charged air cooler the same thing as a intercooler?
Not the cold side. Once the air is cool, it is ready to go into the turbo. The CAC cools the hot air through the help of the cold air from outside better by not being stacked with the radiator.
@@Pickuptrucktalk just to clarify the air goes thur the airbox- filter- cac (intercooler)- turbo comperssor(coldside)- intake runner -combustion - exhaust- turbo intake (hotside) - dpf -mufflers. And not the more traditional route ofairbox- filter - turbo comperssor(coldside)- cac(intercooler) -intake runner -combustion - exhaust- turbo intake (hotside) - dpf -mufflers.???
I like the Rebel and think it is a great choice for off-road driving. I tend to forget about some of the features though and wish it had a front facing camera for the dreaded "sky view" when climbing a hill. The diesel just adds a new flavor with the low-end torque and the better MPG. Here is a more full review I did on just the Rebel: ua-cam.com/video/vgvRLIRRaEA/v-deo.html
I’d go for it he rebel but does it consume more fuel because of tires, lifting and wider stance? Fuel economy is important to me as a daily driver and is why I would drive a diesel so it kind of defeats the purpose of driving a diesel. I can see though for those that do a bit of offroading it’d be a must have. I’m sure there is more tire noise with more aggressive tires.
I wouldn't worry about the cam sprocket issues as much as I would worry about the bearings failing like they did so often in the Gen 2 engines. www.ram1500diesel.com/forum/ram-1500-diesel-mechanical/8564-eco-diesel-engine-failures.html
Bummer Tim thanks for the unbiased update. And great channel and reporting! That is important for me to know. I’m thinking the Duramax would not have such a problem but it’s unproven, better to wait a year or two for real world refinements.
Great video! Any word on DEF usage? I had a '14 Grand Cherokee that could only use MOPAR DEF...Thing had so many issues. That DEF was crazy $$. Hope the 3rd gens got the kinks out.
lol I expected a Ram fan to chime in that there's a "fix" for this but it involves you cutting up hoses under the hood and splicing valves in places. Shoddy engineering on Ram's part if that's really the issue or if it's just a case of a weak AC system.
@@karlschauff7989 The last gen Ram (pre-2019) doesn't have this issue. For 2019, they changed the inner workings of the AC causing warm air to mix with cold air thus raising the vent temps if I recall correctly.
The engines that go in F1 cars are broken in at well over 10k RPM. In reality the best way to seat the rings is to get the engine to temp and start getting on it, varying engine RPM.
Joseph Borntreger you pay a lot when a deer hits any vehicle, your main concern should be your life not the damn vehicle! Sad more people care about possessions than lives
Jon it was moved due to their new 60/40 tailgate. This allows someone to open up just the 60 portion and have a step to get in. If you Google search images of that tailgate, you will see it.
I'm doing that weight with my 2020 Ram 1500 Ecodiesel...that is just about my max load. "Effortless" is the word for it. Even up and down the mountain grades, in wind. Smooth as butter. I can tow up to 12,650.
@@mattdeller2525 and you have enough payload for it too? The trailer dealer says I need 1450 tongue weight and 9900 towing capacity😒 the trailer is about 5000lbs empty. Its a horse trailer😒
Anibal Perez how much exhaust break will a 3.0L generate? lol the hemi pulls more without an exhaust brake. Ram does have the biggest half ton brakes though
Check the TFL video. The said the same thing on their test drive but then the tranny did some magic when towing to where the felt like it doesn't need it.
WOW! We had to wait until 2020 for auto manufacturers to put auto open/close shutters behind the grill. Too bad VW is no longer selling TDI's here in the USA. This pickup seems like the diesel truck I would buy.
@@daryoushborja5115 It's extremely rare for people to tow more than 9,000 lbs with a half-ton truck. I wouldn't trust the inflated ratings Ram managed to put out this time. The Ecodiesel had a hard time holding together long enough to hit 100k miles without a bearing failure. I'm worried about the major failures they'll have now that the tow rating is even higher.
I had two 2nd generation diesel rams and I have a grand Cherokee with it and my Cherokee averages 37 highway going up and down mts of Pennsylvania and the rams with 3.92 averages 32 highway. Can't believe the new 3rd gen can't get better then those number mind you I don't know how many Miles are on that truck but I've seen the best milage around 40000 on both vehicles
What is happening to our world where we brag about how QUIET 🤫 our diesels are!! I paid a premium for that motor I want to hear my turbo scream and my compression ignition clack!! 😂😎🤪 I want quiet I’ll buy a car!🤦🏻♂️
That world is going away. I’ve said in other videos, people won’t like how quiet these new Diesel engines are, however, it does open the door to more buyers imo.
I am an old guy! Retired diesel mechanic with over 40 years around diesels. I'm in awe of how quite they are today & the performance they are getting out of them. I like quite, I'll leave the screaming turbo's to you young guy's.
sorry but did you say the CAC cools the air that spins the turbo????????? When you mic an exhaust you need to go to the side so the air flow coming out doesn't cause wind noise!!! This is a terrible attempt at a truck review!
@@Pickuptrucktalk fleetairtech.com/charge-air-cooler.html. You sure? Why cool it before is is heated up? Makes more sense to cool it after it is boosted? Also it is the exhaust that spins the turbo.
Cannot quit talking long enough for us to hear the engine. Why does everyone do that? Lots of needles time filler chatter that didn’t need to cover up the engine noise ...Then, you put the mic in front of the exhaust so all we heard is wind noise. I guess I’ll have to wait to see one in person to hear it.
@E C Yeah but then you're stuck with a paper thin tinfoil bed. You only get a decent payload rating in a 2.7 EB F-150 if you settle for a cheap featureless XLT. Ford won't sell you a 2.7 Ecoboost Lariat with a decent payload or axle ratio. The max GVWR of a F-150 Lariat with the 2.7EB is limited to a worthless 6,500 lbs. Being forced into an XLT means you don't get half of the features that are standard on a new Ram Big Horn or GM truck in a LT or SLE trim.
@@Josh47147 Isuzu is a highly respected diesel engine designer and has a history of building diesel engines that goes back almost as far back as Cummins. The 3.0L Duramax is based on the Mercedes-Benz OM656.
@@XarMT2 VM is owned by FIAT and has produce some very bad diesel engines. Most Europeans stay far away! FIAT doesn't make anything right or dependable.
Je P VM was owned very recently by FIAT. If you do serious research, you will get interesting findings about VM. Their engines were used by several car manufacturers (GM, Land Rover, hyundai, military trucks, marine applications...), their 2.8 CRD powered the wrangler for long years and it is a great and reliable engine! Fiat engines are produced by Fiat Powertrain Technologies (not VM) and their diesel tech is named multijet, and it is very good and reliable. Finally, do not forget that FIAT is the owner of ferrari, maserati, iveco, new holland... so, saying « FIAT engine! no thank you » is just showing how car illiterate you might be. There is no intention to offend
After plugging in the numbers you will save .05 cents per mile on the diesel vs the Hemi with etorque. With Def fluid, increase on diesel fuel and increased oil changes it will take 60k miles to break even. After the first 60K miles its money in the bank unless it self destructs like the gen 2 engine. If you are planning on rolling miles its a very worth while option.
To be honest those aren’t bad numbers, it’s probably best to buy a lower trim
I towed my 6000lb trailer with the 1st gen ecodiesel and the brand new EcoBoost H.O.
So the EcoBoost definitely makes more power, it was rated at 450hp, it's very fast. My impression while towing, is that the engine is always screaming over 5000k rpm, very noisy. Also the F150 has some serious squat, it had to be jacked up with weight distribution bars set super tight before it would stop dragging the hitch.
The ecodiesel idled super quiet around 2000-3000rpm the whole time and had plenty of power and towed a lot quieter with more confidence. Also it had 4 corner air suspension and didn't squat at all with the exact same trailer. Still had to put weight distribution bars on the ecodiesel not due to squat but without the bars it felt like you were trying to tow on top of a water bed. So after weight distribution and anti-sway bar it tows way more confidently than the f150. So far our 14 ecodiesel has over 100k with 0 issues. Our 18 f150 H.O. has been traded in on a 19 Denali 6.2 and so far we hate the Denali. I think we will trade the Denali in on the Ram TRX when it comes out next year.
Got my 2020 ecodiesel 6 months ago. I've got 18k miles already and haven't had any issues yet. So far I am very pleased with it
I just got one too! They will last for a long time!
@@veniaminmarar710 I hope so lmao
Informative video. Glad to see RAM addressed one of the issues with the gen -2 trucks. Overheating while towing was a fairly common complaint with them. Moving the turbo intercooler to the new location should help by getting it away from in front of the radiator. The shutters on the intercooler should also help in cold weather as well. When air cools in an intercooler it condenses and lets off water in liquid form. Gen-2 Eco's had issues with intercoolers freezing in cold weather unless you ran a winter front cover. The intercooler shutters should help eliminate this as well as improving fuel mileage, performance, & emissions. I'd still like to hear what they did to address the bottom end bearing issues, but I guess Ram will never own-up too they had a problem, I just hope they fixed it.
Paul Ehlers that camshaft issue was enough to spook me away from previous gens of ecodiesel.
I punched my Ecodiesel 15 days ago and it has been in the shop for 15 days. Baby that engine!
Damn! How hard did you punch it???
No matter how hard you punch it, shouldnt break.
I like the way you put the different segments together. Good job.
Thanks! I've been trying to get better at my video editing.
Looks like a nice engine. It's nice that they offer the diesel in all trim levels including Tradesman and Rebel. GM and Ford do not offer a half ton diesels in work truck or off road trims so that should be a competitive advantage for ram. I'm surprised that limited you towed with was only $56k. I would have thought the sticker price would be substantially higher. Great video Tim, very informative!
Thanks!
Charge air cooler... been around for 90 years. Check out the Boeing FB5.
Good job as usual. What I like about this review is that, it reminds me of the great options we have with three great choices in the Diesel mid-size range.
Thanks. Yeah, a TON of great half-ton diesel choices these days. Pretty crazy since just a few years ago, people said the segment was dead.
Great video! Waiting for them to hit dealerships to trade in my 2012! BUT...aftermarket companies have been doing separate cooling for the turbo and engine for YEARS! RAM brags on this but when you order a bigger or solid aluminum intercooler, it's always been relocated under the radiator. Not a big selling point for me at all.
I love diesels but all the complex components modern diesels have to make it all happen worries me. Went with a tried and tested v8 for that reason. My old mk4 tdi 1.9L 4cyl 8v was rock solid. Very few emissions components, tuned to make 300wftlb/190whp and has over 350k.
Pro and con. New diesels are more powerful, reliable and fuel efficient, yet more complex and costlier to work on.
Yes Tim, the “off road deleters” will hate me for it but these engines are able to perform better but still comply with emissions standards. No small feat the engine designers have been able to raise the bar with these more powerful and torquey engines that have useful torque down low AND I can drive this truck with a clear conscience and not feel I’m am polluting illegally nor do I have to worry about a 10,000$ fine. This is no small small feat engineering wise. The LP Egr will really help with plugged egrs, one ongoing issue for all old diesels. This is the cost of driving an efficient engine. I do my part to keep my diesel running as designed. This would not be happening had the US government not set higher and higher fuel economy standards. I think it is wonderful diesels beat gas engines by 25% in the thermal efficiency department. It boggles my mind that we’ve been driving around for over a century only usefully using 30% of the energy in our gasoline at a best thermal efficiency of 30%.
I have a 2014 ecodiesel. I loved my truck. Kept up with maintenance and never had an issue. Till...... it hit 135,000 miles. Engine went out. This isnt something new either. So many forums out there of ecodiesel owners having catastrophic failures from 30,000 to 150,000 miles. Then they do a recall to address it and all they do is flash the computer because of emissions. This isnt solving the problem of failures. Most i have read about are timing going bad, injectors going bad, and rods going bad. So now i have a truck sitting in my driveway. Dealership wants 12,000 dollars because they say the engine needs replaced!!!! This is complete BS!!!! Why cant the rods just be replaced?!?! I was deployed to Afghanistan when mopar announced they were putting a diesel engine in a 1500 series truck!!! As soon as i returned i bought mine with 17 miles on it!!! The recall doesn't even cover anything but emissions!!! This has been a known issue and should be addressed!!!
That’s BS.
Duane Taylor did you have it deleted and tune or was it stock?
@@devn3813 it was all stock.
Awesome news on mpg👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸 This is really good intel👍👍
I really hope that with gm putting the middle child Duramax in the Tahoe/Suburban in 2021 that Jeep will put the Gen 3 ecodiesel in the new grand Wagoneer and Wagoneer , that would be awesome for off-roading/towing. They almost have to now to compete with GM.
I think it is fairly certain the new Jeep SUVs will have an EcoDiesel option. They are putting that in everything it seems.
That would be so awesome! I’d buy one for sure.
5:35 closing the shutters, for 0.00001% fuel efficiency is wrong. I drive a eighteen wheeler (12+ years). Years ago we covered the radiator with a custom vinyl covers. Without air passing around the turbocharger. It would overheat and would need to be replaced. Summer or winter the exhaust manifold and turbocharger need air to stay within operating limits. Like pulling 80,000+ pounds up Donner pass.
Lung Dong stop shitting out numbers. It’s 0.5% boost in fuel economy. Which isn’t much but it sure as shit isn’t your number.
Adding shutters for heat mitigation is great and all but what happens when I’m out in the middle of nowhere loaded heavy and the radiator shutter servo malfunctions in the full shut position. That’s gonna suck surely it’s got a failsafe similar to a automatic climate control door module.
The first couple years were “badass” til they all started to break the bottom end lol
All 2020 Ram ecodiesels shown on UA-cam have the same licence plate number.
Could it be they all stand in line to test drive a red,white , etc color with the same plate number . The test area is the same place shown in all videos so far. Great truck though ,
have one a year earlier and almost time for a trade.
Im sorry but are you guys saying the charged air cooler is before the cold side of the turbo?.... thats doesnt really make sense to me. Can you fact check that? Im fairly certain that it should be after the turbo cold side before the intake plenum. I cold be wrong im basing everything on my knowledge on 4 cylinder turbo gas engines. Isn't a charged air cooler the same thing as a intercooler?
Not the cold side. Once the air is cool, it is ready to go into the turbo. The CAC cools the hot air through the help of the cold air from outside better by not being stacked with the radiator.
@@Pickuptrucktalk just to clarify the air goes thur the airbox- filter- cac (intercooler)- turbo comperssor(coldside)- intake runner -combustion - exhaust- turbo intake (hotside) - dpf -mufflers. And not the more traditional route ofairbox- filter - turbo comperssor(coldside)- cac(intercooler) -intake runner -combustion - exhaust- turbo intake (hotside) - dpf -mufflers.???
It isn’t so simple with the dual stage EGR taking some of the airflow. Check out this video: ua-cam.com/video/vo9E2IXg_ic/v-deo.html
Charge air cooler is after the turbo before the engine.. just like any turbo diesel since the 80's
@@GYPSY400 that makes way more sense to me thanks
I'd like a 4x4, 3:92 gears in a Big Horn level trim, in white, Pearl White if possible. Along with the Factory Tow Package and Air Suspension.
Mac Haik in Houston has one with the gloss black grill. Everything but the air. Test drove it last weekend, very nice.
What's your view on the off-road Rebel 4X4 with the Ecodiesel?
I like the Rebel and think it is a great choice for off-road driving. I tend to forget about some of the features though and wish it had a front facing camera for the dreaded "sky view" when climbing a hill.
The diesel just adds a new flavor with the low-end torque and the better MPG.
Here is a more full review I did on just the Rebel: ua-cam.com/video/vgvRLIRRaEA/v-deo.html
@@Pickuptrucktalk A front camera and a disconnecting front axle would be amazing on a Rebel.
@@sheepdog819 Absolutely!
I’d go for it he rebel but does it consume more fuel because of tires, lifting and wider stance? Fuel economy is important to me as a daily driver and is why I would drive a diesel so it kind of defeats the purpose of driving a diesel. I can see though for those that do a bit of offroading it’d be a must have. I’m sure there is more tire noise with more aggressive tires.
Man I love your videos! Informative
Thanks! I thought this one was really good.
Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk They all are ,keep it up man!
Great video!
How much did the boat and it's trailer end up weighing?
I forgot to double check, but I’m pretty sure it was about 5k after talking with others.
SO... did they address the cam key issue that was wiping out all the Gen 2 engines? Can you confirm that?
Update: I just got word from the chief engineer. The cam gear is pressed on like prior gen engines. Nothing has been changed in that regard.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Wow! That's crazy! Thanks for the update...
I wouldn't worry about the cam sprocket issues as much as I would worry about the bearings failing like they did so often in the Gen 2 engines. www.ram1500diesel.com/forum/ram-1500-diesel-mechanical/8564-eco-diesel-engine-failures.html
Bummer Tim thanks for the unbiased update. And great channel and reporting! That is important for me to know. I’m thinking the Duramax would not have such a problem but it’s unproven, better to wait a year or two for real world refinements.
Great video!
Any word on DEF usage? I had a '14 Grand Cherokee that could only use MOPAR DEF...Thing had so many issues. That DEF was crazy $$.
Hope the 3rd gens got the kinks out.
Nothing to speak of. I’d need a longer drive and more miles on it to see DEF usage.
I had a 14 ecodiesel Ram and I used multiple def brands. I never used the Mopar brand, and I never had any issues.
Did they fix the mediocre Air conditioning vent temps?
No idea. It was cool enough for us though albeit it was pretty cool outside already.
lol I expected a Ram fan to chime in that there's a "fix" for this but it involves you cutting up hoses under the hood and splicing valves in places. Shoddy engineering on Ram's part if that's really the issue or if it's just a case of a weak AC system.
@@karlschauff7989 The last gen Ram (pre-2019) doesn't have this issue. For 2019, they changed the inner workings of the AC causing warm air to mix with cold air thus raising the vent temps if I recall correctly.
@@karlschauff7989 I haven't tested it in my 2021 ram but AC in my 2017 GMC Sierra 1500 was terrible. Will see how Ram will do in 90 degree days.
So I wonder how long it will take FCA to write owners of this truck a check because they messed up on the MPG or some other catastrophic failure?
Cynical much? Yeah, I hear what you are saying.
Isn't there an engine break in period where you shouldn't rev the engine more than 4k rpms?
500 miles. These were all broken in trucks.
The engines that go in F1 cars are broken in at well over 10k RPM. In reality the best way to seat the rings is to get the engine to temp and start getting on it, varying engine RPM.
@@Pickuptrucktalk thats not what my manual said. It actually says there is no break in period.
With the cooling system behind the bumper that'll make it easier when the deer hits the bumper they will have a lot more to pay to repair it
Joseph Borntreger you pay a lot when a deer hits any vehicle, your main concern should be your life not the damn vehicle! Sad more people care about possessions than lives
@@FordF-Super I agree with you 100% people are getting so disgusting now days that they are killing their own babies but keep animals in their house
What is that at 13:28 next to the exhaust tip? Is that a bed step?
Yes.
Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk In the middle.?! I want that!
Jon it was moved due to their new 60/40 tailgate. This allows someone to open up just the 60 portion and have a step to get in. If you Google search images of that tailgate, you will see it.
Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk Ah I got ya. Ok thanks. I still want those. I have on order the mopar bed steps that’s on the side.
Would love to get the ecodiesel but I have to tow about 9000lbs😩
I'm doing that weight with my 2020 Ram 1500 Ecodiesel...that is just about my max load. "Effortless" is the word for it. Even up and down the mountain grades, in wind. Smooth as butter. I can tow up to 12,650.
@@mattdeller2525 and you have enough payload for it too? The trailer dealer says I need 1450 tongue weight and 9900 towing capacity😒 the trailer is about 5000lbs empty. Its a horse trailer😒
That ran forgot to put an exhaust brake on that truck you got all that pulling power and no exhaust brake
Anibal Perez how much exhaust break will a 3.0L generate? lol the hemi pulls more without an exhaust brake. Ram does have the biggest half ton brakes though
Check the TFL video. The said the same thing on their test drive but then the tranny did some magic when towing to where the felt like it doesn't need it.
Ok. But first - what’s a ecodiesel??
Small displacement diesel engine from Ram.
Made by Fiat.
When can we order one?
Not sure. Probably now or within a few weeks.
Burnouts aren't "baddass" gunna fuck up your tires.
Yeah, but they are fun as hell to watch!
Fastest truck on the planet
WOW! We had to wait until 2020 for auto manufacturers to put auto open/close shutters behind the grill. Too bad VW is no longer selling TDI's here in the USA. This pickup seems like the diesel truck I would buy.
My 2014 Ram has active grill shutters
Ram has had active grill shutters since 2013. First pick up truck to have it.
duramax inline 6 is the one to get for half ton diesel. cannot match the low end torque output of an inline 6 diesel.
phaT habitaT couldn’t agree more. That’s why ram has the best HD trucks, with the Cummins.
The Duramax is bad ass, just wished GM put a higher tow rating on it. The exhaust break is sick too they all should have that feature .
@@daryoushborja5115 It's extremely rare for people to tow more than 9,000 lbs with a half-ton truck. I wouldn't trust the inflated ratings Ram managed to put out this time. The Ecodiesel had a hard time holding together long enough to hit 100k miles without a bearing failure. I'm worried about the major failures they'll have now that the tow rating is even higher.
They peak torque at almost the same rpm but the RAM has more. 480lbft @1600 for the RAM and 460@1500 for the Isuzu (duramax)
Mr Sunshines low end torque? Lower than 1500 rpm? So more torque at idle when it’s not doing anything?
Pretty cool buuuut frying rear brakes and killing the trans ..... i dont know about all that.
Where is your sense of adventure?!?
Need a bigger fuel tank
Arne Jahr I am looking at one. You can option the Diesel with a 33 gallon. That’s 600 city or 900 hwy
is it a 100k motor or a 300k ++ motor
Depends on maintenance.
If it ain’t got a stick then this is a soccer mom SUV.
LOL. Nobody really offers a stick anymore. :(
I think Ram is going for the soccer mom style. That's why they use a minivan shifter.
Sounds like you have a heavy foot, I heard other reviews getting over 35
Two of us driving and neither of us could get close to 35. Maybe others can, but we aren’t seeing it.
I had two 2nd generation diesel rams and I have a grand Cherokee with it and my Cherokee averages 37 highway going up and down mts of Pennsylvania and the rams with 3.92 averages 32 highway. Can't believe the new 3rd gen can't get better then those number mind you I don't know how many Miles are on that truck but I've seen the best milage around 40000 on both vehicles
What is happening to our world where we brag about how QUIET 🤫 our diesels are!! I paid a premium for that motor I want to hear my turbo scream and my compression ignition clack!! 😂😎🤪
I want quiet I’ll buy a car!🤦🏻♂️
That world is going away. I’ve said in other videos, people won’t like how quiet these new Diesel engines are, however, it does open the door to more buyers imo.
Lots of diesel owners are old guys. They will appreciate the quiet.
I am an old guy! Retired diesel mechanic with over 40 years around diesels. I'm in awe of how quite they are today & the performance they are getting out of them. I like quite, I'll leave the screaming turbo's to you young guy's.
sorry but did you say the CAC cools the air that spins the turbo????????? When you mic an exhaust you need to go to the side so the air flow coming out doesn't cause wind noise!!! This is a terrible attempt at a truck review!
Yes, the CAC cools the air that’s feed into the turbo. Good note on exhaust sound. Still working on getting that right.
@@Pickuptrucktalk fleetairtech.com/charge-air-cooler.html. You sure? Why cool it before is is heated up? Makes more sense to cool it after it is boosted? Also it is the exhaust that spins the turbo.
Cannot quit talking long enough for us to hear the engine. Why does everyone do that? Lots of needles time filler chatter that didn’t need to cover up the engine noise ...Then, you put the mic in front of the exhaust so all we heard is wind noise. I guess I’ll have to wait to see one in person to hear it.
Because there isn’t anything to hear. The engine is that quiet.
Tundra who?
Diesel gives you low-end torque that you can't get with a gasser? Tell that to Ford and their Ecoboost engines.
4mpg vs 14mpg pulling. Thats why diesel is better.
E C diesel gets much better mpg and will last at least double that little 6 bangers lifetime lol. Shitty ford😂😂.
@E C or how about an old land rover turbo diesel with a timing belt, like the one in the f150?!
@E C Yeah but then you're stuck with a paper thin tinfoil bed.
You only get a decent payload rating in a 2.7 EB F-150 if you settle for a cheap featureless XLT. Ford won't sell you a 2.7 Ecoboost Lariat with a decent payload or axle ratio. The max GVWR of a F-150 Lariat with the 2.7EB is limited to a worthless 6,500 lbs. Being forced into an XLT means you don't get half of the features that are standard on a new Ram Big Horn or GM truck in a LT or SLE trim.
E C diesel’s don’t need spark plugs. Not a 6 banger.
whole lotta Fiat in that company....
Just like duramax is isuzu huh?
Just like isuzu in a duramax huh?
Joshua Lee much worse lol
Ryan Robinson ".....and that's a good thing
@@Josh47147 Isuzu is a highly respected diesel engine designer and has a history of building diesel engines that goes back almost as far back as Cummins.
The 3.0L Duramax is based on the Mercedes-Benz OM656.
Italian FIAT Engine! NO THANK YOU!
Fiat diesel engine is very good, but thi is VM engine.
@@XarMT2 VM is owned by FIAT and has produce some very bad diesel engines. Most Europeans stay far away! FIAT doesn't make anything right or dependable.
Je P VM was owned very recently by FIAT. If you do serious research, you will get interesting findings about VM. Their engines were used by several car manufacturers (GM, Land Rover, hyundai, military trucks, marine applications...), their 2.8 CRD powered the wrangler for long years and it is a great and reliable engine!
Fiat engines are produced by Fiat Powertrain Technologies (not VM) and their diesel tech is named multijet, and it is very good and reliable. Finally, do not forget that FIAT is the owner of ferrari, maserati, iveco, new holland... so, saying « FIAT engine! no thank you » is just showing how car illiterate you might be. There is no intention to offend
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