2015 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel: Ike Gauntlet Extreme Towing Test. Fully Loaded.
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- ( www.TFLtruck.com ) 2015 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel is here and is ready to take on the Ike Gauntlet Extreme towing test. The 3.0L turbocharged diesel V6 engine makes 240 horsepower and 420 lb-ft of torque. It's got the low-end torque, but not a lot of horsepower. Can the EcoDiesel keep the fast pace set by the F-150 2.7L EcoBoost? Which truck will get better MPGs?
The Ike Gauntlet is a timed run up one of America's steepest highways from 9,000 feet above sea level to the top of the mountain at entrance to the Eisenhower Tunnel in Colorado.
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I went and got a 2014 Ecodiesel last year for towing a 6000lb camper. It works fantastic for what I use it for, fantastic fuel economy as well. I recently towed my camper with a 700lb quad in the box (about 8000lb total with tanks) from Red Deer AB to Ottawa ON and burned $510 in fuel plus 1.5 jugs of urea ($12 jug). That same trip in my gas normally aspirated truck cost just under $1100 and I didn't have to listen to a screaming engine the whole way but had no problem keeping up with traffic. Say what you want about the Ecodiesel but in my case, the option will pay for itself fairly quick and I don't drag race my 4x4 anyway. I will take those numbers and possibly pay a bit more for fuel depending on where I'm at.
Well I just got back from doing and 834 mile tow with my 2014 Ram 1500 ecodiesel big horn 4x4 with 3.92 gears. I have to say I am very impressed with the results. I drove from Salem, OR to salt lake city, ut with a mini cooper on the trailer(4985#) and just about 800# in the bed of tires and tools. Overall average mileage was 16.2 mpg. My best tank was 18.1 mpg and my worse was 15.1mpg. I varied from 65 to 75 mph and areas where I had to slow down for curvy downhills and climbs. So being that most of the drive had a lot of hills and not a steady flat sections. I'm very happy with the performance of my new truck. Beasts the geek out of any gas engine and I know it would beat the ecoboost on mpg towing anything. It might not be a rocket but when u can get 400+ a tank loaded and 600+ unloaded. That's my rocket past the ecoboost as it has to stop and fuel up more often.
@Napoli Hools no never did, never had an issue. I pulled the max capacity with toy hauler I had but the wife wanted to get into a fourth wheel so I stepped up to a Cummins. I loved the eco diesel. Average 25 mpg.
@Napoli Hools they are in their 3rd generation for the engine now taking care of past issues. My buddy runs the service at the local dodge dealer and they haven’t had any issues with the new set up. It’s all up to you on what you want to do. Always remember, only the negative gets mentioned anywhere drowning out the good. There isn’t a manufacture that hasn’t had one form of an issue or another. Even the Cummins can fall prey
I had an opportunity for a good comparison between the 2016 2.7L Ecoboost and the a 2015 Ecodiesel. My buddy just purchased a 2016 Ecoboost F-150 2.7L and made a trip I did 2 months earlier from Tampa bay Fl. to Robbinsville N.C. and back towing his Polaris Slingshot (aprrox 3500#'s trailer and vehicle). I was towing my 2014 370Z (5700#'s Trailer and vehicle). Other than the weight difference, he didn't have to travel an extra 80 miles (round trip) through Tampa/St. Petersburg stop-n-go traffic that I did (I live in Pinellas Co. Fl.) since he lives in Land-O-Lakes Fl. He only managed 13.7 mpg with the 2016 F-150 Ecoboost 2.7L for the trip vs. my Ecodiesel returned 19.8 mpg for the entire trip. The Ecodiesel easily merges up to 70-80mph towing, no problems pulling up hills, plenty of extra power to pass and returns 30% better fuel economy than the Ford.
+Caleb Niederhofer you gotta say the diesel will be better in the long run because diesel is a light oil and it keeps low revs. That will make it last much longer than the turbo 4 or 6
Ecodisel has like a 16 second 1/4 mile lol it's a good choice if your like 63 and drive slow anyway
Tmanthekid I agree
Hasty One It’s actually the complete opposite. , in fact In higher elevation places like Colorado that’s where turbos really help significantly vs a N/A engines . Also almost ever diesel you see today has a turbo on it , and even the ships , and commercial engines . Not bashing your comment or anything like that, but you are not correct at all.
Hasty One if you are pulling up mountains towing 8k in a half ton between the 5.0 , and the 3.5 eco boost I’m taking the eco boost all day . Maybe if you are towing up mountains pulling max load I could see that , but the ecoboost is far superior towing just in my opinion. Anyone towing that heavy with half ton probably should move up to 3/4 ton , or go half ton diesel.
This is the same Truck I have. My 2015 Eco Diesel is the best truck I have ever owned. I get 30 MPG not towing around town. LOVE IT!
Hey John I just purchased a 2016 eco diesel with 25000 man les on it. Just wanted to get a trick review from you since you’ve had your truck for a while.
I towed my 2014 370Z (3500#)on my equipment trailer (2200#) from Tampa FL to Robbinsville NC, round trip 19.8 mpg. I run 73-75mph on the interstate and usually 5 over on back roads. 1755 miles round trip divided by moving time, 52mph average over the whole trip. Not towing I get 29mpg highway and 20mpg around town (densely populated Pinellas Co.) Only paid $33,600 for and go 450 miles on just under 23 gallons of fuel. Here in Tampabay FL. diesel is only 10-12¢ more than regular. 2001 2500HD with 6.0L and 60# less tq only got 10.5mpg cty and 14mpg hyw (8-9mpg towing). Love my EcoDiesel.
How long have you had the truck?
Almost a year. Purchased it Sept 2015 and I have 9500 miles on her.
I did a similar distance recently from Tennessee to Oklahoma 1600 miles round trip. Had 5500# towing. So not as much but similar. I averaged 60 mph. At 17.5 mpg in my 2014 f150 3.5L ecoboost. Not too far off :)
Ok, so it towed and worked fine while getting better mileage. I don't see the 1 minute difference being a big deal is real life usage. I mean honestly, if you were towing a camper on vacation out there and it took one minute longer to get over a pass, would you even notice or care? I wouldn't. As long as it's pulling straight and smooth, I'd be getting exactly what one should expect. I'm a Ford guy, but nothing wrong with this Ram at all, nice job Ram! If I didn't work for Ford, and needed a truck, this would be fine.
I can agree with your comment to a point. The issue arises when you are trying to pass a big rig going up that steep grade and the truck just does not have a lot of power in reserve to do it. Sure one can argue about the times run being sort of a mute point if one gets there faster than the other...but the key factor is how easily the truck made the run. Did they have to keep it floored the whole way...did they have power in reserve, etc. I myself have a 3.5L ecoboost and so far it has been great towing. Several times during the run in this video the truck would flat out not shift and at the end of the run they got as low as 45 mph. Why? Because they are so focused in making it beat the ecoboost that they are willing to sacrifice horsepower to do it. (Not to mention it has an eight speed transmission) By the way I bought my F150 because it was the best option for my needs...not because it was a Ford product.
Now...when Nissan unleashes their 2016 Titan XD with the V-8 5.0L Cummins diesel (310HP and 555 lb.-ft. of torque) that will be one Ike gauntlet test I will be waiting to see!! I am sure that truck will handily whoop the pants off of a lot of trucks out there.
***** Good points Yoda! Perhaps not the truck for that weight load in that location. I guess all I was trying to say is I still like that option on the Ram, that's all. (I don't tow). Yes, that XD seems very cool also. I just like trucks. Well, and cars... ummm and , well... I guess anything with a motor.
I do find it odd however, which I failed to mention, that RAM only gave them a 2 wheel drive for the test and it also had higher gearing. I will take power in reserve losing a little milage any day over milage with no power.
If you towed you would hate that truck. Save the money and costs and get the ford. Ford will outdo that Ram. The fords make that ram pointless to exist.
Tolliver Smith In reliability it won't. Turbo's and cheap gas are a terrible mixture and should be outlawed by manufacturers.
I have a 2016 Ram EcoDiesel BigHorn 4x4 CrewCab. I tow about once a month my 16.5' Maxie trailer, 5' box blade. 32hp Yanmar EX3200 tractor and 5' brush hog. Not only does it tow it like a tanka toy, I average between 19.4 and 20.9mpg on the hwy doing 75mph. The total trailer and load weight is just over 7400lbs, even more when i add my posthole digger and it still gets the same mileage and i have almost 21k miles on my truck.
Roman said 30% down on power....guys come on! Please do your research. General rule of thumb for turbo motors is 3% loss per 6000ft. So at 12000ft you wil be losing about 6%, not 30. Naturally aspirated engines lose about 27% at 9000ft. The general rules of thumb. Per 6000ft.....N/A loses about 18%, supercharged motor lose about 8% and turbocharged motors lose around 3%. Eco diesel is turbocharged.
Turbocharging doesn't work that way. Turbocharged engines have a critical altitude and can maintain full power up to that altitude (it's often around 15,000 feet for gasoline engines). For diesels, the critical altitude is usually quite low, then power will start dropping off at a rate that depends on a whole range of things (the efficiency of the turbocharging system, for one thing). These guys were clearly in touch with the engineers at Dodge, and I'm sure they knew exactly how much power the engine was making for this test.
I purchased a 2016 Ram 1500 Ecodiesel back in March. I'd never owned a diesel of any kind. This summer I took and extended trip from Texas to Yosemite and back pulling a small 2,750 lb travel trailer. I picked the scenic routes through mountains. Spent 19 days on the road. I also had loaded the bed to about 750 lbs of gear. Of course, the tiny trailer and bed load isn't near the truck's capacity. But my other 1500 trucks, Fords and Rams, all with the big gasoline engines, would not have done so well especially at 25.5 mpg. Yes, the average for the trip was 25.5 mpg.
I can't compare the Ecodiesel with the Ecoboost but in my mind...diesel longevity over gasoline engine life expectancy is a no-brainer. Especially when thinking about the Ecoboost. Smaller gasoline engine with turbos sounds like higher temperatures and shorter life. I have no data to support that.
I wanted a 1/2 ton that could do the job of a average gasoline powered 1/2 ton but gets great fuel economy with the longevity of diesel engines.
I guess the verdict is still out on the longevity AND the reliability. Certainly the maintenance costs (oil changes cost about $130, DIY) are more than the Ecoboost.
I absolutely love my Ecodiesel.
And based on the Ike Gauntlet test, I plan to purchase a larger travel trailer in the 7000lb loaded range.
Exactly. Very well said and everything you said is true
I like my 2015 Ram 2500 w/ 6.7 Cummins. This ecodiesel concept sounds good.
Grand Junction to Black Hawk and back, pulling a 7,200 pound 29 foot travel trailer and getting 13.5 to the gallon. That is over Vail pass and Eisenhower tunnel (Ike gantlet) twice. Not sure any other truck can beat that. Plus the Ecodiesel pulls with confidence and ease and comfortable to drive. My truck is a 2015 Ram Ecodiesel Larime crew cab long bed with 3.92 rear. Then there's the air suspension, I drove every brand and the Ram has the best ride, by far. Yet still works like a truck should. I even like the shift knob, (hockey puck) to Nathan. Gives you a lot more room in the center console. For me it has everything that a truck should, and with comfort and style, with the best interior of all trucks. If you want to go 70 up hill buy a sports car.
This is the review I was looking for! Thank you.
I bought a 2014 ED for my 150mile round trip daily for work (the cost of living in the country). I average 26mpg and get over 600miles per tank. It can pull whatever I want to put on my trailer (whenever I need it, not too often). It's the quietest, smoothest ride I've ever experienced in a truck. I couldn't care less about HP or 0-60 times. I don't buy a truck to go fast.
This EcoDiesel sounds like a great engine but the 2.7 Ecoboost is the base engine in most configurations and the EcoDiesel is a $4,000 option.
The 2.7 is an $800 option over the base N/A 3.5 but is available in all trims.
Kamaka ChangPower by Ford.
Daniel Bell Yes it is a $795 option on regular and extended cabs XL and XLT and standard on crew cabs and Lariat and higher trims.
I have an Eco diesel and I live in the Mid South, so not much need for towing up mountains. I will say that I towed my wrangler the other day for about a 150 miles and averaged 20.5 mpg. It was flat riding for the most part, but it towed just fine. Put it in tow mode and hit the cruise at 65 mph. No struggles and it was about 100 degrees out side. Did fine. I will also say that the nice thing is that the mpg I see with out towing in the city stays around 22.5 mpg in real driving scenarios. If I take it over the road for trips though, I can get upward of 32 mpg and better. Way better than EPA rating. Sweet spot is at 65 mph. I drove from Memphis to Tampa late last year and had to fill up about 30 miles outside Tampa, at least that's when the fuel light came on. Probably could have made it, but who needs to take the chance. Overall, very pleased with the pick-up. If you check what other Eco-diesel owners are saying, you would probably see that they are getting better mileage than the EPA rating claims. But, I'm not drag racing or towing daily either. Just needed a reliable pickup for the long term.
After watching my only comment is, That Bronco Is Bad Ass!!!
One thing to remember is that most people won't be towing up a grade this steep in the mountains of Colorado. I have a 4,700 lb camper and this truck would tow it just fine. I have a 2013 Ram 1500 with the Hemi but have seriously been considering the Ecodiesel because of the fuel mileage. My wife and I like to road trip and this truck would suit our needs perfectly. I personally think the Hemi is a better engine but it's a gas hog, especially while towing. Half the time when we go places the truck just sits and we take the car because it doesn't use as much gas. With the mileage the Ecodiesel gets I wouldn't mind driving it all the time.
Can you do a real test with a 4X4? No one in Colorado will buy a two wheel drive truck
Thank you, leary of the 3.0 Ecodiesel. Have seen a handful "crap the bed" with major mechanical before 100k.
The Fast Lane Truck. 2:04 --Nathan "we are down almost 30% on power". Not with a VG turbo you are not down on power as they are well capable of compensating for the altitude difference of atmospheric pressure. You guys always bring that up when testing modern turbo engines and need to acknowledge it is not apples to apples against a naturally aspirated setup.
diesel mutt88 yeah when he said that I said "nope" out loud hahaha!!
I have watched every single one of your Ike Gauntlet towing tests. In all honesty, this test that you all do is in my opinion THE BEST real world towing test out there. It is the test that separate's the "man from the boys" figuratively speaking. This test just showed me, as far as towing goes, the ecodiesel is a boy. hahaha! BUT, a VERY fuel efficient boy he is. ( unloaded) :-D THANK YOU TFL !!!!!
I would like to point out also the F-150 pulled the trailer without the big metal sheet in front of the trailer, everyone knows a big sail like that at highway speed makes a HUGE difference. No wonder the F-150 got a faster time
wow just noticed that.....they realy need to do a better job equalizing things like that
I'm not sure the rock guard makes that big of a difference. There is, after all, a "wind sail" sitting on the trailer, a lot higher than the metal sheet, which means even air moving over the top of the vehicle is hitting it. That being said, I'd like to see them do a test with the f-150 with the exact same configuration.
+McGregorMX I'd see it as being much less aerodynamic than the truck on the trailer, it's totally flat and upright against the wind rather than at least partially diverting the air
Yeah not an even test at all! They should have had it closer to the max tow rating instead of 7200 lb. Bet that would have slowed them down more then the rock guard.
Appreciate the real world advice amigos.
This whole thread is just a dick measuring/pissing contest. I've owned 2 F-150's in my lifetime. I don't tow, use my truck for hauling cordwood, helping people move things. I've waited 30 years for a new truck. Always, the wife got the new vehicle. She hauled the kids, ect, and that's that. I got the beater or whatever. But this time, I chose the new vehicle. I looked for months, and months, and have always liked Mopar products. I chose the Ram, for it's fuel economy, and style. An SLT Quadcab, with a little chrome, and the ecodiesel, and I am a happy guy. It's a beautiful truck. will haul what I need, and rides like a limo. Guess I'm not into the usual haters of certain brands. Just bought what made me smile. Good luck to those in this thread, jamming and slamming each other for their choices of trucks. I love this truck. Nuff' said.
Harold Lennerton
i sure in the last 2 years you have not had any major issues with your Ram ecodiesel if you had bought ANY Ford you would have been here telling us all the money you spent in repairs , all Ford are junk as we all know now
funny how the attitude of this test changes from the ecoboost to the eco diesel. I've never heard the focus shift from speed to how it handles the tow in the other Ike challenges.
I just bought this same truck, well, almost. Identical except for the rear-end which is a 3.55:1. I will be towing 4200-4400 lbs with it and I think it will do pretty good. Certainly better than my 1500 V-8 Magnum, as far as gas goes.
You still liking it? I’m looking into getting one used now for long halls with a small (under 30ft) camper
@@isaiahschubert804 It's been a good truck for us, tows well, gets incredible mileage and has been dependable. When we bought it diesel prices were below gasoline prices. Yesterday, I paid $6.10 per gal as compared to around $2.25 per 5 years ago.
Don't tow a lot of weight with my Ecodiesel but taken 2 long trips (1000 mile one way) in it...29mpg one trip...28mpg the other, averaging 65 mph
EcoDiesel didn't do do as good as I thought it would, but I'm sure it's world's better on streets and regular towing.
Looks like I found my next truck!
I won't have near that weight to tow maybe 6k lbs and this truck should easily handle that.
Rxonmymind I'm thinking getting one too, you will buy one used or new , what the prices in your area
I have seen 3 listed in Ohio with 58k to 96k miles and asking around 25k I may seriously get one to pull my 5500 lb camper.....
@@vs-1993
Man I am so sorry for the late reply!
I actually bought out a state in Nevada as I live in California a 2012 Ford F-250 gasser with 70,000 mi on it for $21,000. Here in California they were asking 8 to 10 grand more.
I'm super impressed with the extra cab the towing ability and payload capacity. Having said that and coming from a Lexus RX 350 this ride is really harsh but it's a truck you should know that going into it. And I kind of did but I didn't expect it to be this harsh. Now I've taken this truck with 3,000 lb of gravel in the truck bed and it was a smooth ride.
I took my 23FB Airstream camping in the truck pulled the camper very smoothly on our maiden voyage. Even the wife took a turn at the wheel and was pleasantly surprised.
Why did I decide on the Ford? I've heard and read a lot of electrical problems about Ram and I'm not in a financial situation where I can fix all the Gremlins. That's also why I didn't get a diesel.
Cheers!
This truck did very well on this test
Thank you for this video, I just bought this truck and I love it so far, haven't done any heavy lifting but if I do now I know what to expect. Once again thank you for making this video, very helpful information about my new truck.
every time I see a brand argument in the coments, it's the same shit every time. so I'm proposing that we make a rule not to argue over which brand is best. all it does is cause people stress and it achieves nothing. everyone has there own preferences and believes. and not everyone's needs are the Same, and people are going to buy what suits there needs and what they like. and to set the record strait, the only reason ford has the best selling trucks is because of there fleet sales, they sell fleets of vehicles to a company for dirt cheap just to achieve sales numbers and the other reason so many companies buy fleets of ford's is because ford mechanics are common and easy to find, and the ford's customer service is pretty good as well. when you realize these things, you see that "best selling" doesn't always mean better product.
No drama, that's what makes it a nice diesel. I used to own a 1982 VW Jetta diesel with a *52* *horsepower* engine. There would have been a whole lot of drama taking that pass with that car. It's better for so many to have a Ram 1500 rather than a larger, more expensive 2500 with a Cummins.
Just as i suspected..Slow. I knew that it would be pulling that hill at over 3k rpm.. Hows all that torque working for you now? According to my calculations it cost the ecodiesel $3.18 (40cents/Mile) in diesel and the 2.7 cost $3.91(50 cents/Mile) in gas. That is going to take a while to offset the $4000 diesel addon. Or Mini Moto
With proven reliability over the Ford well because of physics I'd pay extra for a longer lasting truck as I already said before I don't tow why buy either when the 5.7 and 5.0 are availiable. Say what you want $4000 for a longer lasting vehicle is worth it. Regular fuel and forced induction lead to premature engine wear and pinging, neither are good for any engine.
Its brand new and its not a cummins
Marc Monson 5.7 as in 350 Hemi and 5.0 as in 302 Ford? Didn't mention cummins this isn't a titan.
Dont forget DEF and 100 dollar oils changes!! You see the TEMP gauge at the 10 min mark?
what was that orange light that was on in the center of the tach?
Edit nvm seems to be tow haul mode light
Hey guys I'm new to this channel and so far really great vids
I appreciate the none biased opinions
Great job !
Welcome aboard!
Why is there a rock guard on the front of the trailer on this tow and not one on the Ford 2.7 EB tow? Major difference in drag and this is not apples to apples. Can't compare the two.
777x777x777x777 if you watch there videos there never apple to apple someone jumps in back they get different model trucks use weird trailers cargo ect avoid certain things like Ford squats like a girl peeing no comments ram squats cause coils make nicer ride they loose there mind also rams big horn eco diesel cheap price tag 2018 Ford diesel breaks down during testing and cost 69k they giggle and keep going like it's hot shit .....same about a puck shifter and they waited 18 months ......well I waited 3 years to see what Chevy and Ford brought to table and well rams 8speed tranny and mastered 5.7 hemi is killing the rest off not to mention truck month for dodge is legit truck month I bought a2016 4 door 4x4 ram 1500 hemi for 30k out the door with bedliner and fog lights back up camera trailer controls my 2012 EcoBoost 3.5 42k didn't have back up camera and no bed liner and Ford lighting sucked backing up at night ect also didn't have a cargo light button so loading firewood truck doors had to be open ram has a button. Chevy has a button .....
Love my 2016 ecodiesel!!
Cuantas libras remarca una RAM ecodiesel
How’s the truck holding up?
I think its a diesel, if it was meant to set speed records it wouldn't be a diesel, it is Still plenty of Power to tow anything u want up to the max towing capacity just don't expect it to set speed records when ur towing that max capacity but it has the umph to get er done
Thank you sir I agreed
Hey Chris I saw a Dodge 4 wheel drive Cummings turbo diesel pull mid 9 at Bendemeer speedway last week 130 mph lol its on UA-cam check it out
Lol yah I had to resist adding how u can always add a couple things and have plenty of get up and go u just sacrifice fuel mileage and pocket change to add it
And the Cummins starts out with a lot more power and it has a lot more research and development behind it than that ecodiesel does
Chris Rowlison I agree with most of your comments but the last one is a bit ignorant. The cummins has 385hp but 6.7L the ecodiesel is 3L with 240hp. So its actually more power per liter...
2nd who are you to say the cummins has more research behind it? The eco diesel platform has been in use around the world for years. It also gets 28mph empty. Plenty of research has gone into the powertrain design.
I just purchased a 2018 ecodiesel. Pull a bout 6-8 times a month that weighs 3k pounds. My MPG readings is saying I’m averaging 10mpg at 68mph ... not getting anywhere near what some of the comments say. On highway at 72mph my MPG reads 23mpg .... I have to go 65mph to get 25mpg ... maybe this is because truck is new and needs a little break in period?? Thoughts .....
If you are going to compare two trucks towing capability use the same damn setup!! With the Ram you had a giant wall on the front of the trailer and removed it from the F150 2.7l Ecoboost tow test. Anyone that’s ever towed anything with a big flat surface behind them knows that it will cause the motor to work even more….This video does not reflect both trucks appropriately, redo one or the other with the same setup and then compare your data!!!
More horsepower than a stock 97 p-pumped Cummins and only 20 pound feet of torque less. I’m sold. I want one
Dear Roman your Bias is clearly Evident:Roman: "Oh I'm thinking Ram didn't think this truck would have enough power to do the ike gauntlet"Roman: " Oh Nathan I need to interrupt you to tell you the time we just passed that the Ecoboost did it in"I say we race the Ecoboost and Ecodiesel endurance and see which runs out of fuel first, and we should check in at the dealers to see two long term owners of each. Thank god Nathan and Andre are not biased like their coworker and just give you the facts.
So far the ecodiesel has a worse track record than the 2.7 ecoboost as far as reliability goes. The 2.7 also is much, much faster and is less expensive. The ecodiesel's maintenance is also going to be more expensive and the price of fuel (while it does fluctuate) is generally more expensive for the ecodiesel. As for the fuel test you mentioned, there is a difference between miles per gallon and cost per mile. The 2.7 wins cost per mile, making the fuel test irrelevant.
yOUR RIGHTi have an ecodiesel, HATE IT! OVERHEATING when towing and jerkoff dodge has no idea why it keeps overheating. Note: when it overheats the engine goes into limp mode, 65 mph to 25 mph quite quickly isnt safe.
+David Sanderson send it in for the lemon law and get a new one
Exactly..and they don't say that's what she said jokes!
dodges are junk
In Arizona where summer temps hit 90 degrees and 6% mountain grades the temp gauge on my truck went almost in the red and max speed was 40 mph with a 5400 pound trailer. After owning my eco diesel 3 months I traded it in for a hemi. Wish I would have read more desert testing reviews first😟
Mountains and heat aren't easy an engine.
I'm actually a bit shocked at how underwhelming this thing was. As a commuter and not towing much this would be a really nice option. But I think if I was towing with any regularity I'd go with the 2.7L EcoBoost based on these videos. It might not get as good of gas mileage but you're going to have to travel a whole lot of miles to make up for the premiums you're paying for the Ecodiesel as well as the fuel. Looking forward to seeing the Golden Hitch results. My guess is it'll go to the 3.5L EcoBoost as it's the quickest, towed the best and gets respectable mpg's. Just my observation at this point.
You realize they could put the Jeep into sport mode and it would've kept the revs up higher... MPG would've dropped to ~4 to match the FORD and it probably would've dropped that extra minute back off. Facts. The Ecodiesel is also tuned very moderately from the factory. Push a few more psi out of the turbo and it is a much better performer than the ford diesel. There is no replacement for displacement+turbo size lol. 3.0 and larger turbo will be the 2,7l smaller turbo FORD. Ford just tunes their truck more aggressively and higher revving shift logic which sacrifices MPG for performance.
Read a lot of these comments. Here's my take for what it's worth. I was a 5.9 Cummins guy for 1.6 mm miles over 4 trucks, in 2001 and newer 2500's all 4x4. Sold my last almost 2 years ago and got a 2014 1500 Eco. 2whl dr. Had read about the longevity of the 3.0 ltr's use in Europe (or a derivative of) and actually, my only concern was using the the damn knob.
I have gotten over the knob. On trips from north San Antonio to south Miami, and another to the Chicago area we average 30.8-31.9 mpg at 75mph. On cruise.
Towing a tandem axel 14 ft Vnose with 7 ft. sides inside up and back loaded, (approx. 5200lbs up, and 6500 lbs back) we averaged 13.8 at 65mph.
I experience no wind noise, very quiet and smooth ride, enough acceleration to squeal my tires any time at the stop sign, and the milage with 37,000 miles on it now, is amazing. My wife pulls a 7600lb 24 travel trailer for our grandkids and has gotten anywhere from 13.9 to 18.6 on a trip. I also use it to pull a 16 ft flat bed trailer and 7800b Bobcat. It has zero problems pulling in the big hills here in central Texas. If you want the RAM to stay level in the back, invest in a $100 dollar pair of air bags for the coil springs My air refilled is to the right of my license in the back bumper. Keep the air down to about 5lbs and your ride remains superior, slip 25-28lbs in and you have a great firm ride that's level. My friend Larry with the F150 Platinum, loves my truck. He LOVES it. Compliment ? I love it.
Has the same amount torque and 5 more hp than my 5.9 Cummins had in 2001 !!! I feel the weight of my '01 Ram 4x4 and 5.9 would do better, but maybe my memories deceive me.
Great product !
What axle do you have? 3.55?
3.21 (just looked)
Anyone else notice the coolant temperature gauge was well beyond the middle mark? Was this where it just normally resided or was it getting hot sitting under load for 8 minutes?
I have never driven the ecodiesel but do drive a Ram 5500 with a Cummins in it and it is nothing for it to get around 225 on the temp gauge. It is a 2018 and has done it since day one.
Nice review Ron. Looking forward to trying it out.
I'd like to know the highway mileage while it is not towing anything. To me, a half-ton pickup is NOT for towing 13 thousand pounds. That's why they make the 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks.
The 13,000 pounds was the weight of the loaded trailer and the truck... was not clear when he said it but later the drive talks about the trailer and bronco being 7200 lbs.
The thing people have to remember is 96% of the time driving to and from work (which most owners use it for) this truck wins in fuel efficiency and diesel resale value retained which helps negate the slightly more high costs of diesel plus the urea cost.
Just a note on the fuel economy, if you were to run the Ford or any of the others at 50mph up the gauntlet what do you suspect the mpg would be? I understand it was at WOT the entire run but I suspect the poor trans programing (programed for mpg efficiency) wouldn't let it downshift to get greater speed. The ford had power but also stayed in the power band. The ram seemed to perform more like past gm products where it won't downshift because it's more worried about getting max efficiency
I'd like you to run it up without a trailer, and see how it compares. Most people don't tow max loads up the Ike daily. Or tow even weekly, or do a towing test in normal situations in
What people fail to realize is the diesel can run like that 24hrs a day 7 days a week for 100s of thousands miles. Do that to the eco boost and it would be wore out. It's about longevity people. Nobody that takes heavy towing seriously uses a damn turbo gas motor. They are ticking time bombs when stressed like a diesel. They are better off crawling mall parking lots!
Exactly!! Well said.
People are ignorant and most of them use them mall crawling
Chris G See modern turbo gas motors are as competitive and as tough as diesel motors,
Even diesels cant run 24 hrs like this, it needs turbo idling as well and bigger and thicker side walls to maintain heat on block so heavier front end as well
Exactly!!! My 12v cummins has over a millions kilometers, and still runs like new. Because diesels are made to do that, they dont brake down and they last forever plain and simple..
Andrew Mason See I agree that diesel is good and best for towing but in a country like USA gas does make sense
The run up, i was worried this Ecodiesel was going to be like the 6.4 2500. But it stayed above 50 mph and got 6.1 mpg..Wow i like it.It makes me wonder how fast you could go up the IKE manual shifting the truck?
I would trade 2 mpg for a truck that is much quicker, way better at towing, and lighter weight (meaning less wear on the truck and better handling) any day of the week. People are going to say diesel engines will last longer. That's no issue anymore. If you take care of your motor it will last 300k miles plus. Also, Considering there is only a 1-2 mpg difference between Ford and Ram, it is cheaper to drive the Ford because gas is cheaper than diesel.
Dalton Jarrett On the counterpoint, our place has diesel cheaper, unless you go to Costco (though if they DID sell diesel, it would be about 20-28 cents less, which would have it about $2.99 or so).
Interesting. I've never seen diesel cheaper than gas and I was basing my numbers on the national average. I guess there is exceptions to every rule.
resale. we all know f150's are worthless after only a few years. just look at good quality diesels in the market right now. Grand Cherokee's with the 3.0L Benz, 5.9/6.7L Cummins, even those ugly Jeep Liberty diesels sell nicely if you can find one. Same will go for this truck, used market will be all over these trucks in a few years
I don't know where your facts are coming from. I also don't know why you are comparing a half ton truck to suvs, a german car and a heavy duty 3/4 ton truck. But I would be ignorant to say I don't see the point you are trying to make. Resale is one of the least desired traits when buying a new vehicle. If you were worried about how much a vehicle depreciates you would not buy a new vehicle, considering EVERY brand new vehicle depreciates a considerable amount as soon as it is purchased. In summary if you want to save money one don't buy a new vehicle and two don't buy a used diesel because apparently they are overpriced.
courtsm3 Actually, F150s are at 58% resale after 3 years vs Rams 46%. Ouch. The only truck with better resale is a tundra. www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2015/03/12/2015-ford-f150-residual-value/70208522/
its got the knob. 10/10.
I'm to lazy to do economics but isn't diesel fuel more expensive than gasoline? Hence if the diesel got more mpg what is the ratio of mpg vs cost of fuel? Personally I would rather have the power to go over 50mph and get there quicker than save a few cents.
ZepG For my place as of now, it is 14-20 cents less for Diesel vs 87.
***** I'm from The U.S. and I just checked a live local fuel price site and regular 87 is $2.29 and diesel is $2.98 a gallon.
California, so it's different from others lol.
***** California is always different lol, I was out there a few years ago and it is a beautiful state. I'm from Pennsylvania near Hershey btw.
ZepG I own an ecodiesel. Previously owned an 11 f150 ecoboost, and a 13 raptor. Raptor was lowest cost of ownership over 50k miles. Ecodiesel so far will be right behind it. You need to look at cost per mile and resale value. My ecodiesel is running a cost per mile of .13. A 2.7 eco is running .13 / mile. Check out fuelly to see.
You guys ever thought about doing 60fps video? The quality is so much better at 60fps.
Hey can you guys do a dodge Eco diesel vs Colorado/canyon Eco diesel?
The chevy is not eco,its straight up duramax diesel
+qbinn They both are junk
So, the experts don't understand that a turbo compensates for altitude by increasing boost (at least up to it's maximum limit)?
These guys aren't experts.
Not very impressed. With the price difference in diesel vs gas, this diesel has no advantage in overall cost to drive. And given the performance is less than say the ford 2.7 or 3.5 gas turbo, it would be more fun to drive a turbo gas engine powered truck ;-)
That Bronco they are towing looks so cool.
The eco diesel is a wonderful motor but they need to fix a major issue with these engines where the motor comes out of timing. One of the main cam gears will come loose on the camshaft with too much abuse. With that fixed the motors are super reliable
Austin Clark that's not ever been proven to happen it was s lie to sell fake bullet proofing kits
Been waitin a looong time...lets get a new Ecodiesel test going.
2.7 EB F-150 is a revelation even though some foolish magazines and brands told, its not such a big thing
-Like it hit 0-60 under 7.0s which even a big v8 failed to do
-It did 4.3 mpg(sure its bad) but was supremely fast and had just 6 gears to play with -and had loads more power under the drivers foot
-what if the F-150 2.7 cruised at 50-55 mph like the RAM did with cruise, I suspect the F-150 too would have achieved around 5 mpg
-Gas is cheaper still
-Better configurations and axle ratios available
-360 degree camera rocks
-can b packed with technology 2 its gills
-Real world mpg of 2.7 EB stays between 19 for people who tow and 22 for people who tow less, for RAM its 21 for people who tow and 25 for people who tow less, not much appreciable since its 80 HP less and 300 cc less and much more GREEN as well
A twin turbo engine is NOT a revelation .. The RX-7 the Nissan 300-z the Supra just to name a few. If you call doing something that was stander 20 years ago a revelation then then i have no words for you ; other then you must be a Ford Fan Boy.
holybuba A tiny twin turbo engine in a FULL SIZE pickup truck that can handle the stress of a heavy load for long period of time like a V8 while also being efficient is a revelation. Not some high strung turbo 4-cyl, 6-cyl or rotary engine in a 2500lb+ rice burner and that you have to rev the piss out of it to get power. The 2.7 is a working engine, not a race engine. It doesn't require rebuilding every 50000 miles. Also the 2.7 is the smallest engine that has ever been put into a full size pickup. You must be a fart-can rice fan boy with all the flashing lights and gizmos and you favorite movies are fast n furious 1-6 + 7!
BBTthetank Its just an old engine idea shoved into a new ford truck. If you were to take the same 3.0 twin turbo that was in the Nissan or Supra then tune it to work it would do the same job if not better than this "Revelation" 2.7 .don't get me wrong the Twin turbo set is a good idea but it is nothing new!
holybuba
turbos are the way of the future
Marc Monson Maybe but nothing that is a "Revelation". I own a turbo diesel cummins so i understand that they work and work well. I am just not a ford Fan Boy that is going to kiss fords butt for doing something that they could have done 20 years ago.
its overheating or running hotter than normal it seems
Hey nathan, please stop sugar coating the deficiency on this truck. Now, you were amazed about mpg? The ecodiesel did 1.7 mpg better then ecoboost. Ok, but did you considered once it starts to regenerate? I have read, ( might be wrong) it burns between 1/1.5 gallon per regeneration. Plus the higher cost diesel. Plus the urea. Plus the premium of the diesel motor. At the end, im pretty sure the ecodiesel will be more expensive. No savings in fuel economy. Also lets be honest, with all new emisions crap, diesel trucks give bunch of problems. No matter what brand. I truly believe in a half ton truck is worthless a diesel. Diesel is for heavy duttyyl trucks. Ecoboost have prooven to have more than enough power to handle the job.
It did about 50% than the f150 which is significant. Also for everyday daily driving the ecodiesel would trump the f-150 in fuel economy. Note at the beginning of the video it was showing over 32mpg on the 43 mile loop they usually do.
Liometers are never that accurate. I agree, ecodiesel will give more milles per the gallon. Think!!!!!
1. How much is the premium to buy a diesel over a gas engine
2. Diesel always more expensive than gas.
3. Once it starts to regenerate. the liometer does not shows diesel consumed to clean dpf.
4. Plus the urea.
I believe its more expensive all these factors combined, then the savings of the extra milles per gallon.
Also all new diesel trucks, no mater what brand in the long run, are nothing but headeaches with the emitions crap
The avg Half-Ton owner is going to drive 70% empty and the other 30% will be light towing and light hauling. Diesel engines are know for there low torque that makes for towing beast but a diesel are also known for there MPG's that is clearly what RAM is shooting for here. I think all the Half-Ton market should offer a fuel sipping diesel in there line up.
You read it wrong, instant consumption is 1-1,5 mpg worse during DPF regeneration but it lasts for a few miles. Overall comsumption is basically the same. Urea is cheap as dirt (because it's mostly water) and you rarely need to refill it. Truck itself is more expensive but first - they're selling it in higher trims only plus diesels have much better resale value. Fuel onsumption is much better, look at the 2:06 part: 32.2 average mpg. That's almost 10 mpg that F-150 2.7 Ecoboost. So unless you're towing 7000lbs regularily, Ecodiesel is quite sensible choice.
sic22l Cheap as dirt? never knew dirt is $5 per gallon.
Well there it is! Great video TFL. The Fiat Italian diesel could not match the Ecoboost, not even close. It got 1.8 mpg better true but it also went up the grade 15-20 mph slower too and I can't help to think if it was in 4x4 configuration the mpgs would of went down. Not saying that Ram doesn't have something good in the Ecodiesel they do but it's not as capable as the 2.7. I would love to see the 5.3 Ecotec do this same test.
The question is how many times that little 2.7 can be run that hard before it gives up it's ghost.
I don't think I would buy either of these trucks if I was towing frequently. For me, the 2.7 EB and 3.0 ED are ideal for the family-type truck where I need a crew cab, 4x4, with good mileage for safety, adverse weather, and shoving stuff in the bed.
For towing, I would prefer the 3.5 EB or the Hemi. Go ahead and throw the 5.0 in there too. With the amount of aftermarket parts being made for the 5.0 in the Mustang, I have a hunch that F-150 5.0 may be the cheapest to service long-term.
4 cams and a whole lot more parts invloved in the heads. The 5.0 is definitely not an engine you want to fix if something did go wrong. They also don't have a good powerband for a truck. You're better off getting the 3.5 ecoboost or the GM 6.2.
***** OHV Hemi 5.7L has been proven to be the most reliable V8 engine ever produced. I would take the with the 8 speed ZF tranny, 3.92, low revs and bigger bottom end over a 3.5 or 2.7
courtsm3 The hemis can make lots of power no doubt, but they definitely aren't know for thier reliability. The "Hemi Tick" has plagued them since thier inception and the mains don't last that long. Not saying you can't make them last, but they aren't known for being very long lived.
5.4 Triton tick? lol.
Hemi engines are the engine of choice when going used for sure. Chev and Ford are usually timed out after 5-6 years.
***** CRACK!!!
I would call this truck the best ALL AROUNDER in the half ton serie...There was awarded cowboy for this type of performance and since the touck model is the long horn, it should inherit the title..
Well if the Ecoboost ran 50 up the whole way the MPG most likely would've been around 6
Layne Dail I realy think your right , and without any strain on the motor.
Marius Doiron You must be a Ford guy...
Every car i had in my life was from a different manufacturer , Pontiac , Mercury , Buick , Honda , 2xNissan and , Kia . and in the past i drove many trucks from Dodge , Chevy ,GMC and Ford too . people buy what they want and brand loyalty is a stupid choice.
You didn't mention what size wheels/tires were on installed. A 3.55 Rear axle ratio would give you a higher speed and still have the capability of the weight you noted. The 3.92 axle has well over 9k lb capability, so you really weren't "maxed out" in towing capability. You were probably confused with the 3.55 limitation of 7400 lbs. Many owners are finding the top speed limited with the 3.92 axle, even on flat hwy's. You would have probably had a very different experience with the 3.55 axle.
There's a reason why Ford had to make their trucks out of aluminum. it's because they are using a small displacement 6 cylinder gas engine and they know for longevity purposes they have to sacrifice somewhere and that is in the alloy of the truck. These small Gass engines don't have a robust bottom end like diesels do. They require top end power to make up the difference. And that will take its toll on the life of the engine. I don't believe in 15 years you will dare buy a nice used ford ecoboost with 150k on it. But the Diesel will be very desirable still. JMO.
Hardly a sacrifice.
+1 axactly
l guess 420 ft.lb of torque isn't robust enough ehh? Another dude with an opinion about something he knows nothing about...
I know there is no replacment for displacement. You can turbo the hell out of small engines to get the same numbers, but to make the same numbers you WILL produce more heat. And HEAT is the number 1 killer of any engine. Diesel engines run much cooler by nature of the fuel itself. I judge a powertrain over how it performs over 100k miles working everyday. Not holding your foot on the floor like A drag race for 5 miles. That's just idiotic. The proof is in the industry. You won't see small displacment turbo pickups in the oilfield or any heavy duty industry. Those trucks aren't biult to work everday. The only place you'll see them is at the Mall, or walmart parking lots.
kyle stewart but these aren't heavy duty work trucks, these are family trucks and light duty trucks. You don't buy these trucks for heavy towing, the engine will last just fine with regular maintenance. In the age of mechanized production, the powertrain is hardly ever a major issue, I'd me more concerned about the infotainment, connectivity, sensors, and interior/exterior finishing holding up.
This is a perfect engine for most people it's really to bad we can't get this engine anymore.
Just had an idea...
Figure out what average MPH is needed to cross the finish line at the time the EcoDiesel did. Now run the Gauntlet again with the 2.7 EcoBoost and set the cruise on that MPH... I'd love to know what MPG the Ford would get running the same speed as the Fiat. I'm willing to bet it would be nearly identical.
Thing is the Ford can go much faster if needed, the Fiat just can't.
Daniel Heller That would be interesting. Not a bad idea at all
Daniel Heller your saying fiat as to reference the parent company of dodge, but it is not a fiat engine. learn the difference. by the way look up who built all of fords diesel engines as well as others. NOT FORD, INTERNATIONAL built them.
I've heard the ecodiesel is in fact designed and made by fiat in Italy which may be why it has such a stupid name. Do you have a source you could share saying otherwise?
Kyle York I've read the ecodiesel is in fact designed and made by a company called VM Motori in Italy which may be why it has such a stupid name. Do you have a source you could share saying otherwise?
wardsauto.com/ward039s-10-best-engines/2014-winner-chrysler-30l-ecodiesel-dohc-v-6
8th or 9th Paragraph
Reread your statement, you just proved I am right. VM Motori is a top end manufacturer of luxury cars in europe. Yes, it is an underlying company to fiat. No it is not a Fiat motor. Yes they have to abide by Fiat's specs. Same report as your reference different web page
Don't know if this was mentioned, but the rock guard added to this trailer for the
Ecodiesel test was NOT present for the 2.7 Ecoboost test.
That rock guard adds quite a bit of drag to the Ecodiesel combo....
Trust me...
No it doesn't. The rock guard actually reduces drag because of its shape compared to the trailer + vehicle. The smoother shape reduces turbulence. If you look at some truck air flow diagrams, you'll see that wind over the pickup would have slammed into the Bronco with incredible turbulence. With the rock guard, the wind is redirected.
You have obviously never towed
anything with and without a rock guard.
Ram has trailer with big wind restrictions and ford barely none your test is not fair for ram
Cameron hit it right on the head! I own one of these it is totally awesome .
What happened to all the people who claimed that it was all about torque when it comes to towing up a grade? 240 HP is what it is. LOL!
I also think with the aftermarket stuff coming out a mild tune is going make a big difference on this truck for Peformance and even better fuel economy . If you want awesome milage and still be able to tow the weekend trailer or boat go ecodiesel all the way if you want a fun truck with a lot of power go ecoboost .
everytime i see or hear "mr truck" i am extremely tempted to turn off the video
That's the diesel lifestyle: you'll go a little slower than with a comparable gas engine, but you'll get much better fuel economy.
Pogoing. Great way to explain the way my 2010 Dodge 4.7l V8 handled hills while towing a uhaul
Oh sure I love it when my truck has to downshift and turning 3500rpm! with my foot to the floor and wont go past 55 or shift into high gear. Sounds normal . LOL "Its just happy to do its thing"? ROFLMOA Who are these guys?
I have a 2013 Ram 1500 looked at all the trucks before I got the Ram. Been looking at the chevy and new Ford f150. My lease is up in 16' hoping to 17' Ram is available then.
The difference between 4.3 and 6.3 MPG is almost a 50% improvement. Underpowered? HA! I've crossed the Rockies in a VW Vanagon, and it was windy, so I am the king of underpowered. (If any one has done it in a Vanagon Diesel, you have truly accomplished something awesome. )
I''m very curious what the EcoDiesel got on the round trip. I'd love to hear what the round trip difference is between trucks. I noticed your average was 32.2 MPG early in the video. I live in Utah, so I also do a lot of crossing big mountain passes. Since I know you guys go back down again, is it too much to ask to know the trip average???
Todays vehicles are awesome at climbing mountain grades. I've driven hundreds of thousnds of miles around western North America in diesel cars and trucks with manual transmissions. I bought a new car in 1992 that climbed up the west side of Snoqualmie pass in top gear without falling below the speed limit. It was a very spiritual experience. Now the average vehicle does almost twice as good as early 90's ones did. We are all spoiled now.
Max towing capacity for this truck is 8,840lbs (4:50). It's only pulling 7,200lbs. it could only average 50mph or less and when it went through the lights at the end (14:10) it was only going 45mph. Put another 1600lbs on it and I'm not sure it would make it to the top.
This is also an extreme test and not something that someone would normally do on a regular basis.
I have a 4.0 Tacoma rated at 6400 lbs for towing. I tow a 3800 lb boat and it struggles up hills. This thing would be the ticket. I don't need a bunch of power, as I only tow a boat... but I need more than the Tacoma has.
How was downhill in this? I notice that you didn't have it in these earlier videos, but do now, and showed where the Ford Diesel went into failsafe due to over-revving past redline. Where did this truck sit at RPM wise when going down and how many brake applications?
My friend had a ecodiesel and towed 2 quads on a double trailer for 6 hrs and the last 2 hrs were up hill. When getting there the dash lit up.
HAD to get it towed back to a dealership and after a time in the shop discovers the engine was shot. Dodge wouldn't cover it because he was towing and thier excuse was "these trucks are not ment to tow only for less fuel consumption".
So in this test the guy ran a diesel full open uphill and really how long can a diesel take That?
Usually it's low rpms and high torque. Have a feeling much more of that and this dodge would have suffered the same fate. If you have to push a diesel engine to 4000 rpms it will never last.
Sweet I've been waiting for this one!!
I wish Ram would've used the 5.0 cummins for this truck. I cant wait to see the 5.0 in the Titan and Tundra performance test. Please TFL get your hands on a 5.0 cummins and run the test.
***** The 5.0 in the Titan isn't coming until around October or so.
Ticked all the boxes of what I'll want in my next tow vehicle.
I’d like to see how a 2500 fuel mileage compares with the same load
Now try it with a performance tune and you would get even better MPG on the highway all diesel responds that way if they are tuned properly.
You cannot add power AND fuel mileage with a tune, that's marketing hype. It's one or the other.
I'd happily give up a minute going up the Ike Gauntlet for an extra 2 MPG. You'll save more than a minute by skipping the fuel station, while the EcoBoost is refueling.
Just a quick comparison: Ike Gauntlet is about 9 miles long. EcoDiesel did it with 6.1 MPG, or about 1.5 gallons of diesel. The EcoBoost did it with 4.2 MPG, or about 2.1 gallons of gas.
Well, that isn't everything considered. It's not just one minute, the 2.7L EB had significantly more reserve power and could've easily exceeding the speed limit. As for the Ecodiesel, it struggled to even approach the speed limit. A couple MPG is nice, but so is having enough power, which the Ecoboost has.
Just today at a local station here in Central PA. Regular Unleaded was $2.29. Diesel was $3.29.
Ecodiesel Fuel costs: 1.5*3.29=$4.935
Ecoboost Fuel costs: 2.1*2.29=$4.809
So Why would I buy the Ecodiesel?
@@TheOriginalItguy08 So you can go to work and slam down your briefcase and say "Yup, bought me a new truck, course it's a diesel." While the other men in the office nod approvingly.
I'm sure that the ecoboost 2.7 would have had better than 4.3 mpg if you drove it up at the same speed that the Ram averaged. It may not have achieved the 6.1 mpg but It would have been closer.
It will never come close to the mileage of a diesel simply because diesel fuel has 30% more energy per gallon than gasoline. But it cost so much more I question whether it makes economic sense anymore. Diesel used to cost less than gasoline.
I think RAM should have waited for Cummins to produce a little bigger motor for this truck. I drive a 2014 3.5 Ecoboost and love it but I have been really curious to see a diesel in a light duty truck. I can't wait to see the Nissan XD gauntlet video. Thanks you guys at TFLtruck...been waiting a while for this video.
Rich Soto I'd say the Titan XD could be a 10k load when it comes in the late fall, to be like the 3.5EB, the 5.7, and the 6.2.
I agree with you Rich, I think it would have been better suited for RAM to use the Cummins powerplant rather than port over the Jeep Diesel/MBenz Diesel engine. However, now they lost it to Nissan and we are stuck! In a couple years I hope to have one of these 1500 Diesel trucks, I wonder which will be the best lol.
We just had one of these in the shop for a crankshaft reluctor wheel that broke. Other than that a pretty nice set up.
Over all I think the diesel is the way to go. Torque and speed dont come in the same truck. No many of us need to go 0-60 in 5 seconds if you purpose of buying the truck was to pull. Who cares how fast it is on the track if you can't pull its own weight.
How much heat does it make while towing a load and up hill.
That seems to be a problem in the past with older vehicles?
Have a good day.
Not to forget the vechicle is the 2WD and not the 4WD which is a bit heavier. Might that be a big difference if doing the test with the 4WD capable vechicle in MPG???
PLEASE please do the MPG towing test with the Ram Eco Diesel HFH (maybe) ( 5600 lbs trailer on 100 mile loop)! Thanks! you guys are amazing!
Sorry, the HFH wont come from factory with a hitch.