On "Success" and "Making It" in the "Industry"

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  • @danieotto8013
    @danieotto8013 9 років тому +70

    I would follow Seamless into battle.

  • @ColinHuth
    @ColinHuth 9 років тому +88

    An encouraging note to small producers:
    Hi. I'm the demand. Right here, that's me. I'm the guy that needs more music. And plenty of people like me exist - you just need to make music that's distinctive. I follow promotional channels like Underground and Tasty, and listen to every release. All it takes to get me invested in your music is doing something different. I heard TheFatRat once, and was immediately hooked; no one else does stuff quite like him. Be unique, and I'll follow you. Be good enough, and I'll buy a single when the time comes.
    So if you don't have a solid style and distinction yet, start by just... making more music. Experiment, and continually improve your sound repertoire and mastering skills. You'll get there.
    ...oh, and comment below, so I can find you, too.

    • @CreoMusic
      @CreoMusic 7 років тому +2

      Thanks, I'll take you up on the offer.

    • @BLAQTi
      @BLAQTi 7 років тому +1

      I know it's been a while since you commented this but check out some of my stuff on SoundCloud or UA-cam. I'm releasing a track with Wolfrage recordings soon so be sure follow me so you can hear it when it comes out! Thanks, Jake

    • @TheSameFight
      @TheSameFight 7 років тому +2

      Hello listener, let me tell you we're thrilled that you exist :D The problem is those promotional channels get thousands of submissions and they tend to only pick one or two of them.

    • @Zellymackintosh
      @Zellymackintosh 7 років тому +1

      Colin Huth i have some cool music if you want to check it out , its on my page i have a video out called "feel alive" ... very catchy hook that all my locals always sing to me with joy , let me know what you think if you come across it

    • @ClaudeWolfenstein
      @ClaudeWolfenstein 7 років тому +1

      Thanks Colin!

  • @rux_ton
    @rux_ton 9 років тому +5

    Im so glad you made this because, I have explained this stuff to so many younger producers or just producers in general, but then there are people who think that this "industry" is EXACTLY "this" way. and It's not like that. Basically, so far, I am agreeing with you so hard.

  • @ejboogy5749
    @ejboogy5749 9 років тому +4

    You're so right man, it is what it is. Love hearing your opinion as far as the whole "making it" thing goes. All about supply and demand. Great video!

  • @tryarch1
    @tryarch1 9 років тому +3

    the thing ive taken from the "industry" before watching this was pretty much the way u "make it" is to
    1. make the best music u think u can and once ur at a level where u feel u are good enough, release ur shit
    2. build a following, tease shit and use social media
    3 get connections though ur following and ur publicity
    4. tour and make money because you wont be making money from the music any more, people make 95% of their money in the EDM scene from touring

  • @zynsix
    @zynsix 9 років тому +1

    Hey, just wanted to say that I'm really enjoying these 'real talk' type of videos that you've been making. Keep it up man.

  • @Numbers706
    @Numbers706 9 років тому +1

    "You just want to make art, you just want to make music and you dont care about "success" just do what you want to do."
    That's really all that needs to be said.
    Too many people want to be "famous" or "rich" off their stuff, when in reality, it should be more about just making music and having fun.

  • @MetalNickTremblay
    @MetalNickTremblay 9 років тому +1

    Super advice, thank's !

  • @Gnurklesquimp
    @Gnurklesquimp 8 років тому +2

    I'm so lucky that I've got passion for so many accessible kinds of music as well, I know that even then I'd need to adjust things to make the largest possible amount of sales but I think I can manage with what I love to make.
    I don't want to say it's a bad thing to do at all, but for some reason contributing to commercialism feels wrong to me.. I just wish more passionate artists could make it big doing what they love. I like plenty of music of differing degrees of what is most likely commercialism (You're never really certain on an individual level) but I can usually tell when there's a bit more passion.
    One example of a top-40 artist would be Pharell, I'd say.
    He does imply techniques that are commonly used to boost sales, but it sounds to me like he likes to use them in interesting ways.
    You can just kind of hear in general that he loves a certain sound personal to him, and that he really understands it. Timbaland is another that comes to mind.
    I don't even like most of their music at all, but I really enjoy the fact that these kinds of artists can make it huge too, even if sacrifices will have to be made.. at least there's people who try to make such a big impact! It introduces mainstream consumers to new sounds and opens the minds of mainstream artists to the possibilities, contributing positively to the considerably lackluster amount of ambition on that level of the industry :P

  • @rux_ton
    @rux_ton 9 років тому +1

    And thank you for the whole... label bit here. I think labels are just.. not the TOP of the chain anymore. it's changed so much. Like, back in early 2000s when I got into electronic music, at about 2003 i think was the year i started wondering about record labels but not focusing much on it. I have seen it change a lot, etc... But I think some people just focus too much on labels and not enough on their own promo and productions in general

  • @12pm92
    @12pm92 9 років тому +3

    I am 15, but I do like to think that even if most people won't like my music, that it's different. And all I ever really hope to be with my music is, different. I'm good with that.

  • @Thorvandal
    @Thorvandal 9 років тому +1

    31:52 "If your goal is to have longevity, I wouldn't put too much stock in any one particular genre."
    Hm, for me that's very interesting question to ponder, whether it's good to be more "universal" or to "specialize". On the one hand, I would agree with what you've said. On the other hand, one could argue that specialization is king. I mean, when I think about all the epic musicians I adore, all of them were/are highly specialized. Yes, some of them did make some switches within genres, but it never were drastic changes, like from hip-hop to death metal. Maybe from death metal to thrash metal, like Sepultura for example, or from jazzy pop to jazzy electronica, like Nakata Yasutaka. They made their switches within more or less related genres. Other epic artists I can think of mixed some seemingly unrelated genres from day one, making it in fact their own genre, which they stuck to rather faithfully, maybe with a few little side trips here and there. But overall, I think they all were pretty specialized. I think that real life evidence, at least from my observations as a fan, points more toward specialization.

  • @Maliklitasf
    @Maliklitasf 8 років тому +1

    your right your way more specific and detailed about FL STUDIO than everybody else

  • @ihateweetabix8829
    @ihateweetabix8829 6 років тому +1

    This was actually really enjoyable and helpful to listen to. Props

  • @dannyd1224
    @dannyd1224 9 років тому +1

    Just checked out your sound-cloud...you make some pretty interesting stuff....i like the track "some song" haha nice to see dark,unique and non-corny stuff on sound-cloud!

  • @capturerake
    @capturerake 9 років тому

    Man, you're right, you're so right. The bar for everything is getting low. I remember back whe I used to ride BMX 14 years ago, you had to sit and listen to people to learn how to do a trick without murdering yourself. Now you've got high-def slow-motion tutorials that are free. Everything is so accessible, so that pushes the bar for greatness up, but brings the level of acceptability down.

  • @valzugg
    @valzugg 9 років тому +5

    Really cool to see you share your thoughts about this stuff. Some great insights.

    • @gs9055
      @gs9055 9 років тому

      valzugg Oh Hi holy shit youre a really good musician! :) You're some chords remix would have won if youd have entered in time man I'm sure of it

  • @damaoker
    @damaoker 9 років тому +1

    You know guys this is why i love to produce Hardstyle! Not every 15 yo can make a hardstyle kick... it takes alot of time and afford!

  • @JohnJuddMusicStudio
    @JohnJuddMusicStudio 9 років тому +4

    Seamless always delivers high quality content....but my favorite part is the personality. I would be fine if he talked about how to make waffles or pizza. Alas, at 21ish minutes he delivers the very sad truth about music....

  • @SellouT4p4
    @SellouT4p4 9 років тому +2

    Havent watched yet, but the Title already seams interesting
    *gets popcorn* 32 mins, here i come

  • @man1192803
    @man1192803 9 років тому

    This was very informative. Motivational too.

  • @syntes242
    @syntes242 8 років тому

    This was very good advices Seamless, thank you!

  • @nickpov3y
    @nickpov3y 9 років тому +1

    On point.

  • @TinoBacela
    @TinoBacela 9 років тому +1

    Thanks so much for this video Seamless.. Tons of really helpful insight.. I do have 1 question: You mentioned that we need to "create connections".. I assume you mean, getting in touch with people who do the same thing, how would you go about doing this?! Getting in touch with someone you'd like to meet for example?!?! Thanks again..

  • @vegardertilbake1
    @vegardertilbake1 9 років тому +2

    I just love the title of this video

  • @IAskForNames
    @IAskForNames 9 років тому

    Words of inspiration!

  • @kurtotto1994
    @kurtotto1994 7 років тому +1

    "How To Bass"

  • @diceiverson
    @diceiverson 7 років тому

    You are a walking, talking GOD bruh. REALITY!!!

  • @TheBlashMusic
    @TheBlashMusic 9 років тому +10

    3:51 At first I thought he was gunna say "Alahu akbar"lol

    • @ceeazy1833
      @ceeazy1833 9 років тому +2

      TheBlashMusic hahahahahaha, same here

  • @blueviper779
    @blueviper779 9 років тому

    This is very helpful! I'm glad I watched this, like, I'm really glad I did, social media is kinda hard for me to manage from time to time however.

  • @ComposingGloves
    @ComposingGloves 9 років тому +1

    You need to bring your label back!

  • @DJZaiaku
    @DJZaiaku 9 років тому

    I've been doing this for a while myself. Not the tutorial part but just making neuro n' tunes in general and trying to gradually get up to the level I could be recognized at. Just recently had a release on Titan Records (DnB) and of course there's promo and bit of marketing on there (well to be fair a lot more than just a little), which I believe does solidify your statement on what some labels are capable of doing for you. Of course self promotion can go well too, especially if you have a network of close friends and people that are interested enough to share your material.
    Like I used to want to be INSANELY popular and well known but I think the general goal is to just be successful enough to live comfortably doing shows and selling music I've created (among other art I'm interested in). Of course I would like to be able to get around "maybe" half the recognition that noisia gets whenever something new pops ups but that in itself takes a lot of time and really REALLY well thought business decisions (I believe).
    I'm not one to spam or to put links of my music on someones video or post but I think I'm comfortable enough to put myself out there for you guys to tell me what you think about the newer tunes I've been workin' on up till now.
    soundcloud.com/zaiaku
    Thank you Seamless for your excellent videos and advice. Always learn something new that I haven't tried before or ever thought to do, but since I'm an ableton user I have to really rework some ideas in different ways. The goal is never to really achieve those exact sounds, but what I feel to be on that tier or level of quality.

  • @goh9079
    @goh9079 9 років тому

    Very informative this sort of Q&A.. without Q! It would be nice a thing like that once a week or once a month from you.
    Keep it up;)

  • @DanteKishishev
    @DanteKishishev 9 років тому +1

    Would being a "jack of all trades" be a strong selling point in your opinion?
    Currently I am in a position where I am developing in many areas at once, and despite not being a "pro" in any of them (yet), I have a strong foundation and my whole life ahead of me. I just want to hear your thoughts on whether specialising in a single field would be better than, say, being ready for any job but not necessarily being the best?

  • @maxkevinlstren4826
    @maxkevinlstren4826 9 років тому +1

    I think its having a lot of friends would be an benefit.

    • @xBrOwNeDoG
      @xBrOwNeDoG 9 років тому +4

      and rich parents.

    • @SeamlessR
      @SeamlessR  9 років тому +13

      xBrOwNeDoG A gigantic amount of what made my career possible was the stable environment my parents provided for me as well as the freedom to explore my options afforded by their success in life. It would have been much harder if my family wasn't as well off and I had to, for example, spend 60 hours a week in two jobs to support myself while doing all the other stuff I do.

    • @xBrOwNeDoG
      @xBrOwNeDoG 9 років тому +2

      SeamlessR yeah I understand, It wasn't a shot at you, just possibly some people that have "made It".

  • @judemorel7697
    @judemorel7697 9 років тому +1

    Damn, I'm 13 and I want to start earning money from this when I'm 17 or so, that means I would have had 5 1/2 years experience. I'm already starting to make some pretty solid music.... I hope I improve a lot (tomorrowland is the dream).

  • @tomkillsjerry
    @tomkillsjerry 9 років тому

    Keeping it real I see. Nice Mr. LessR Nice.

  • @g30btn
    @g30btn 9 років тому +1

    seamless mentioned getting a logo, i'm a professional graphic designer working with EDM artists

  • @matthewtoomer2181
    @matthewtoomer2181 8 років тому +1

    thats why im going down the psytrance route. its still very underground since the early 90s... i dont think it die anytime soon and the amount of new artists is tiny compared to poppular edm

  • @BagelCollector
    @BagelCollector 9 років тому +18

    "they're like 15 and they've released on two labels" "even if your stuff is bland as shit, even if your stuff is a direct ripoff, you can be successful" ... this is honestly depressing. Believe me I've tried like %90 of the things said but I'm still sitting on music that's pirated thousands of times and hardly if not ever makes me a single buck. Like, I'd be enthralled if I could make literally just a *few* bucks from what I've made.

    • @Skizzaable
      @Skizzaable 9 років тому +13

      People can't pirate a tour.

    • @crowbartender
      @crowbartender 9 років тому +10

      I've been producing music for about five years now, never made a single penny.

    • @SeamlessR
      @SeamlessR  9 років тому +22

      If you're focusing on direct sales, you're going to have a bad time. If your music has a high playback value, where people want to listen to it, put it up on UA-cam and get some ad revenue for it. It's obviously not a lot (I make less than $300 for 240,000 in a month) but it's something if you can cultivate a presence.
      The playing field adapts and you have to adapt with it. These days it's all about engagement and not so much actual direct sales.

    • @theofficialmuffincrc
      @theofficialmuffincrc 9 років тому +1

      Its common knowledge now that theres fuck all money in actual track sales. Revenue mainly comes in from touring/gigs, sample libraries and mixing/mastering jobs (maybe ad revenue too if you get a considerable amount of plays on UA-cam)

    • @Mijkami
      @Mijkami 9 років тому +1

      Lets Fly To Pluto!
      Lets speak about peaking/sneaking and bootlegs, would you ?

  • @Minismeee
    @Minismeee 9 років тому

    Seamless you should do a video on your thoughts about the industry as a whole like the last part of this vid. it would be super interesting.

  • @ezrato
    @ezrato 9 років тому +3

    The point you made on not sending successful producers your demo tracks...I wouldn't say it's a "one size fits all". Every producer's different in what they choose to do, and while most may rarely reply, there are certainly successful producers (such as Cash Cash) that take the time to listen to fan's work. Heck, Zedd got famous because Skrillex listened to a track he sent him and liked it.

  • @RafaelRipollGallardo
    @RafaelRipollGallardo 9 років тому

    Most of the things may sound obvious but guess. I use random or generic names for the songs and no name on them. I loved this video. Sincere and using plain logic; that kind of logic you end up loosing track of. Thank you

  • @twosaibackbot
    @twosaibackbot 9 років тому

    Great video! TL;DR: Find your own thing that you are better at than everybody else, or find something that noone has done yet and do it first. You don't have to be Skrillex or Avicii to be successful, there are plenty of different ways to succeed in the industry.

    • @scottbaileymsc
      @scottbaileymsc 9 років тому

      Skrillex and Avicii were unique though, that's why they became so big. They were some of the first people to do what they do. But I agree with what you are saying in that you don't need to be like every other big artist and so on and just mass produce the most popular genres or whatever. If you have your own unique thing though and people like it then that's only going to benefit you.

  • @Monstufpud
    @Monstufpud 9 років тому

    I'm the best. Just the best.

  • @nateivorys7318
    @nateivorys7318 9 років тому

    thank you for this

  • @darkprince5275
    @darkprince5275 9 років тому

    Hey SeamlessR just wanted to say thank you for all the stuff you do for us ^_^ cheers buddy :)

  • @Skullk_
    @Skullk_ 9 років тому +3

    Seamless, I know this is totally off topic... but what webcam/camera are you using there?

    • @SeamlessR
      @SeamlessR  9 років тому +6

      Logitech c920

    • @KennySolos
      @KennySolos 9 років тому

      SeamlessR What microphone is that? It sounds very clean..

    • @SeamlessR
      @SeamlessR  9 років тому +4

      Kenan D'Shredder it's an SM57.

    • @Denzien2
      @Denzien2 9 років тому

      SeamlessR We use those in our school, good mics for the surprisingly low price.

    • @criticalcubing
      @criticalcubing 9 років тому

      SeamlessR Is the mic good? and what soundcard do you use with it? I am guessing it is XLR version.

  • @dementedpenguinz
    @dementedpenguinz 9 років тому

    I invested in Komplete 10 Ultimate, mainly for the sweet pianos, strings and brass :D
    All the synths are awesome too, but I still love Harmor and Sytrus :3

  • @RainbowCoreChannel
    @RainbowCoreChannel 9 років тому +1

    Seamless, can you do a video about making song titles? I have had this problem for ages.

    • @ThatCrazyKid0007
      @ThatCrazyKid0007 9 років тому +1

      Just ask a friend or even let your fans do the naming for you. :)

    • @sorryforbatenglish
      @sorryforbatenglish 9 років тому +3

      RainbowCoreChannel
      use deadmau5 inspired songtitles: asdfghjkl
      don't give a shit about it, it's about the music, not some words

    • @NFSsuchtiD
      @NFSsuchtiD 9 років тому +1

      +Adrian Moment or Linkin Park: Qwerty

  • @Egomimusic
    @Egomimusic 9 років тому +6

    I have the problem where my music is promoted, but nobody actually takes the time to subscribe/follow/like. I'm in a mix with 300K + views, and I literally gained hardly any following at all. Also, I have my own tracks that were promoted with 9000+ views, and also got hardly a following. Do promotion channels really work? Do people actually follow you?

    • @SeamlessR
      @SeamlessR  9 років тому +13

      I dunno about that. It would be interesting to to study that as a platform. I don't have my stuff on promo channels that much (I think I have one track up on Nik Cooper's channel).
      My guess about this stuff though is born of a thought experiment that can apply to many things: look at things from a music listener's perspective.
      From their perspective, they don't really need to follow individual artists if they just follow promo channels. In fact, promo channels function much like labels do in the sense that they are saying to music listeners that they should stick around if they like a particular kind of music that they have. Like Trap And Bass vs Neurofunk Grid.
      Every once in a while they'll be struck by a track that's just so baller that they have to find out who made it and follow them, but most of the time it's just a collection of their particular brand of noise and they need not look any further.
      Same thing with mixes or podcasts. In fact ESPECIALLY mixes or podcasts. How many people just go to a party with them loaded up and to play as background music? The entire point of a mix or a podcast is that it's a long, uninterrupted, catered presentation of a particular kind of music or taste. Individual contribution isn't as important.
      Of course, some listeners are more gung ho than others, but I'm willing to bet the vast majority of interaction on stuff like that is from people who're less engaged with where the music comes from than you'd expect. Especially considering, you know, market saturation and all that ;p

    • @Egomimusic
      @Egomimusic 9 років тому +2

      SeamlessR Wow, this is really depressing haha. So does this mean that there is not much of a chance for artists to actually get recognized? I'm not a good DJ, so I just produce as of right now (and play guitar, bass, and drums cuz I wish being in a band was a thing haha). Is playing live shows the only hope of spreading my music?

    • @Egomimusic
      @Egomimusic 9 років тому

      Also, I appreciate the reply. It has given me some food for thought.

    • @SeamlessR
      @SeamlessR  9 років тому +11

      Egomibeats There's never been much of a chance for anyone. Hence the whole discussion about supply and demand. Even with playing live.
      But you shouldn't be putting your all your eggs in any single basket. Use aaalll the baskets. Promo channels, mixes, live shows, blogs, interviews, giveaways, anything you can think of since any single avenue would be depressingly ineffective. But all of them all the time greatly compounds your chances.
      Like my vocalist in my band always says, even if we play a show in a bar to all of one guy who totally digs it, then that show was worth it. Building a following one fan at a time eventually adds up.

    • @Egomimusic
      @Egomimusic 9 років тому +2

      Hmm. That is interesting, and definitely makes sense! I guess I should just keep doing everything I can to branch out. Thanks for the help! I appreciate it. :)

  • @TheEchoJester
    @TheEchoJester 9 років тому

    The one thing I'd really like to know is about distribution,like exactly how do you get on iTunes,Amazon,fixt...etc etc what kind of account would I need if I actually do start getting paid,how much will one need to pay for distribution all those sort of things.

  • @s3ntry948
    @s3ntry948 8 років тому +1

    How to decide what type of music you make? Like, if i want to be a music producer who can make House music and i'm also making Dubstep or Reggae tracks for example. What does that make me as a producer? Am i a Reggae producer? Am i a House producer? etc. And all the ''succesful'' artists i've seen tend to make just one type of genre? İ can easily guess that they can make other stuff but why do these artists limit themselves to a one genre when making albums or presenting their image as a (insert genre) producer/maker ?

    • @NihongoWakannai
      @NihongoWakannai 8 років тому

      As an artist, you kinda need a single theme to stick by so you can build a fanbase around that theme. If people go to you because they want house music, but get reggae, they may not be too happy.
      This theme is generally a genre, but there are artists who may have a general message with their lyrics or something, and then float around with the exact genre they use to express that message.
      You could even have a main genre, and have all your songs generally follow it, but have experimental sections or features within those songs. You could be a house artist with reggae and dubstep influences throughout those songs.

  • @fozbozz2367
    @fozbozz2367 9 років тому

    My dreams are not crushed. I managed to scavenge some advice and I'm just gonna do my own thing. No spamming (Never did that anyway) Always original pieces (or just super-scarce remixes) and I'm gonna make sure everything I do is somewhat unique-ish :D

  • @xaubersense7132
    @xaubersense7132 9 років тому +1

    Has nothing to do with this video...But could you do a tutorial on the Bass of MUST DIEs Octopus?
    I would really appreciate it:)

  • @jayant54singh
    @jayant54singh 7 років тому +1

    Hi Seamless, Iam doing a day job in Bank and it's awesome but I also make electronic music, what would you advice me to do if I should leave my job to give full time? Well I started working because of good income and to get independent. But I have been making music since my college days.

    • @garten-jumper4140
      @garten-jumper4140 6 років тому

      Jayant Singh I would say if u have a dream go for it
      But plan everything look at the inet for the information u need

  • @CmoIsDaNam3i
    @CmoIsDaNam3i 9 років тому +1

    Hey Seamless, I do wanna do music, but not in the way like Au5, Fractal, or really anyone that does it like just putting out music, I wanna incorporate my music into my YT channel that right now is primarily gaming atm. How would I generally go about that while growing my gaming content?

    • @theofficialmuffincrc
      @theofficialmuffincrc 9 років тому +2

      Make another channel for your music stuff, or have a schedule

    • @CmoIsDaNam3i
      @CmoIsDaNam3i 9 років тому +1

      Well I want it to be on the same channel and somehow tie them both into one video, maybe I could use my own music for my montages instead maybe?

    • @tuttuti123
      @tuttuti123 9 років тому +2

      CMoIsDaNam3 If you have a huge audience watching you playing, use your own music and link your tracks at the description if you want. Make playlists.

    • @CmoIsDaNam3i
      @CmoIsDaNam3i 9 років тому +1

      Sweet, sounds like a good idea then.

    • @theofficialmuffincrc
      @theofficialmuffincrc 9 років тому +2

      Hariz Izzudin ^ Even better idea. I still recommend putting all your stuff on SoundCloud or maybe another YT Channel, so people can find it all in one place

  • @atomsktheforgiver
    @atomsktheforgiver 9 років тому

    I found you through Varien's track breakdown :D

  • @dablacksmith4208
    @dablacksmith4208 9 років тому

    Hey seamless, can you make a how to snyth tutorial. I like you how to bass videos but the kind of edm i'm interested in making usually doesn't have these crazy basses. I feel like if you made a how to synth series, you could reach an even larger portion of producers.

  • @cedricbagein9328
    @cedricbagein9328 9 років тому +7

    jsut tell me how to get hunniz

  • @chrisp7268
    @chrisp7268 9 років тому +1

    This is pretty spot on, pretty much what me and my friends talk about and what I try to educate other artists on!
    Also if anyone wants another channel like Seamless look up KSADE
    On another note, going back to the lab to work on more tracks & fuck wit Serum =D

  • @MrJuitman
    @MrJuitman 9 років тому +7

    I came here and stopped watching at 4:35 because it sounded like you were making a "How to get success quick" video for those who cared more about the numbers than about the music. I'm a new producer and I came here mainly looking for tips and avenues for getting more stuff out there for people to listen to than to get paid for it. I think it's relatively toxic for the music producing community to place more emphasis on getting big than sculpting your own sound and your own identity through your personal style of music because then people just jump on trends with their less-than-complete production knowledge and saturate the music industry with complete crap and drown out those that deserve recognition (not saying that I deserve it, but I know many others that do).
    Music nowadays seems like a game that if anyone can play well, they become successful regardless of the quality of the music.

    • @scottbaileymsc
      @scottbaileymsc 9 років тому +8

      Watch the whole video. He explains this near the end, but it isn't a video about getting big quick or any of that, he's explaining ways to make a successful career or a sustainable income from your music and how to go about getting more recognised so that people can hear your music, even if you don't want to make money off of it you can still use these tips just to grow a larger fan base.

    • @MrJuitman
      @MrJuitman 9 років тому

      MERBST Oh look, the internet antagonist. I wasn't complaining about the video, but I don't see why I can't explain why what he said up until I stopped watching, made me stop watching, because I didn't want to sit through half an hour to find out that it shouldn't have watched it. I got the very helpful replies I was looking for, THANKS GUYS!
      But I honestly don't see what your comment tried to achieve aside from providing some unhelpful, provocative cynicism.

    • @herbstmeier
      @herbstmeier 9 років тому +1

      man, I wasn't even trying to be rude. of course it was a provocative comment, simply because your comment seemed like criticism to me. And since you only watched 5min of a 30min video you obviously can't provide helpful criticism.

    • @MrJuitman
      @MrJuitman 9 років тому

      Well I wasn't criticising the video. I ended up criticising more the current state of the music industry off the back of something Seamless said that I believed to be irrelevant to me and a reason to stop watching. I know that it wouldn't be completely representative of the video which is why I hoped someone to fill me in on what it was more about like a TL;DW which ended up happening.
      My comment was simply explaining what it seemed like he was saying to me at the time which is why I provided a time stamp and said "sounded like".

    • @herbstmeier
      @herbstmeier 9 років тому

      ok. my fault then. simply was a misunderstanding

  • @roysydal2761
    @roysydal2761 9 років тому +1

    "Running a label is not hard, I ran a label. Remember Amon Records?"
    Sorry Seamless but I had a single planned for release under Amon Records called Stratosphere and I did not once come in contact with you. You said it was all promo and that was your role in Amon as far as I remember.
    I ran a label for a little while solo. Not as easy as you assume. :/

  • @decommandblockgast
    @decommandblockgast 8 років тому +1

    You know I watched this video because I want to make music my job, but I don't care if I become rich and famous or not. You talked about that whole band thing, the people just doing it for the art and I'm one of those BUT I do wanna make it my job because then when I'm an adult I won't have to do any other job, this way I can spend more time on my passion, music. I think there's a lot of people out there just doing it for the money and fame though.

    • @KQY614
      @KQY614 8 років тому +1

      We're very similar man.

  • @nodex3292
    @nodex3292 9 років тому

    Does anyone know how to recreate Everyday Netsky Remix arp during the second chorus of the song. The part where it has octaves and harmonies in a 16th pattern.

  • @leonardodangiulli2870
    @leonardodangiulli2870 9 років тому

    i was nodding along this whole video

  • @evilbobz123
    @evilbobz123 9 років тому

    Seamless, what do you think about making different genres in terms of keeping the same image?

  • @VexillariusMusicEDM
    @VexillariusMusicEDM 9 років тому +2

    "BUT MAH PRIVACEH"

  • @benson1ification
    @benson1ification 9 років тому

    What day is it? Damn it!

  • @TheWaiterPRODUCTION
    @TheWaiterPRODUCTION 9 років тому

    Hi SeamlessR , can you please make a video about record labels(how do they function, what are the gains and losses for each side, etc.)? I try to understand their role in the industry in order to make better future decisions and think that your word as a signed producer would be helpful.

  • @Nazareadain
    @Nazareadain 8 років тому +1

    Not entirely sure why I watched all of it - I think I just like insight into all the industries - despite how remarkably smiliar they are; particularly the low risk productions being what the corporations want - yet being unique is what gets you noticed and shit sold.
    I just want to have better tools and get better. Guess I'm a hobbyist.

  • @EGO_D3VTH
    @EGO_D3VTH 9 років тому

    Seamless were you formally trained in sound design/engineering etc? Or has your learning experience been kind of trail and error? I have seriously been considering going to some sort of trade school/university that specifically targets sound design, and engineering, because in the 3-4 yeas that I have made music (though I've made tremendous strides alone utilizing forums, and online tutorials on youtube/sonic academy etc) I feel like i have in a sense hit a wall in terms of significant progression. I'm not entirely satisfied with the quality of my music (sound design specifically) and feel like formal training could help. Not worried about the price, but wondering if doing so would be worth it essentially. What are your thoughts on this?

    • @SeamlessR
      @SeamlessR  9 років тому +2

      I learned the vast majority of my engineering knowledge from personal experience. I learned a little in high school where I ran sound for theater productions. But for the most part I was on my own + internet research.
      The thing about going to an actual educational institution for this stuff is that really all I can find for this is more traditional recording engineering. Which is useful stuff, but you'll spend most of your time noting how whatever it is you're learning will actually never apply to what you want to do and how a lot of the rules they teach have no relevance to modern engineering.
      The sad truth is that established education for music engineering and synthesis have not caught up to the times.
      But for, like, traditional recording engineering it's still pretty good. But probably not worth the tuition and time.

    • @EGO_D3VTH
      @EGO_D3VTH 9 років тому

      I see. Thanks a lot for the response! I suspected this was the case concerning educational institutions not keeping with trends in music, but I had no 1st hand perspective regarding the matter. what about schools like dubspot? that specifically tailor to electronic music? Has anyone recounted their experiences with this and similar institutions to you?

  • @TheDWAofficial
    @TheDWAofficial 9 років тому

    Being in a metal band and transitioning to EDM is a big difference saying that I'm not a big social media person and well there's a lot of social media that I would just like frown in disappointment because I'd rather be making music then having to make logos and stuff haha

  • @Swifty142
    @Swifty142 9 років тому

    "black bodysuit with spiderman eyes"
    were you referring to Danger by chance? or maybe the Bloody Beetroots (who both dress up as venom)?

  • @powerstation0872
    @powerstation0872 9 років тому

    When you say "put your name on stuff", do you mean your actual name or your alias you use on SoundCloud, UA-cam, et cetera?

  • @RefractOfficialMusic
    @RefractOfficialMusic 9 років тому

    Would you say going and doing a Music Production degree at uni being a good idea?

  • @OSSODUBSTEP
    @OSSODUBSTEP 9 років тому

    Is the white spots on black body suit Bloody Beetroots?

  • @MetalDetectorYT
    @MetalDetectorYT 9 років тому

    I think who you were thinking of at 12:40 is The Bloody Beetroots .

  • @theglasspinataincident7405
    @theglasspinataincident7405 9 років тому +3

    A cool idea I had that has yet to prove effective is to make some stuff for youtubers who need intro music (or just royalty free type stuff in general). If you get your track played for 30 seconds at the beginning of a youtuber's video and it gets 100,000 views, people might look for it in the description. Only problem there is getting the attention of a big youtuber, which is probably as glutted a market as the EDM industry.

    • @Ozterkvlt
      @Ozterkvlt 9 років тому

      The Glass Piñata Incident you think people care about an intro tune? thats about a nondescript piece of music as it gets (if the intro tune is longer than 10s then pls gtfo, nobody has time for that)

  • @ClassicCombat
    @ClassicCombat 9 років тому

    I need to copy write some songs ive made but dont know exactly the proper way. What do you suggest

  • @AaronGodin
    @AaronGodin 9 років тому

    thank you floating beard face

  • @bloodlord1989
    @bloodlord1989 9 років тому

    Should you send your demos or samples in a file to preset/sample selling websites to show them your work to sell presets or samples on their site. I contacted a few sites yesterday which Black octopus was one of them (They say to send a link to websites like Soundcloud) they didn't get back to me yet. There was one site from the few that contacted me not too long ago that asked me to send files in a zip, but i sent a link to my soundcloud instead because i really wouldn't want anyone selling or using my stuff without my permission.

    • @SeamlessR
      @SeamlessR  9 років тому

      It's good that you protect your work like that.
      I really only have experience doing sample packs with Black Octopus and the label I'm signed to FiXT. Both instances came to me instead of me seeking them out so honestly I have no idea what it's like to actually seek out that kind of work.
      It's definitely a good idea to branch out like that. Do as much as you can with the skills that you have that you can sell to people :)

    • @bloodlord1989
      @bloodlord1989 9 років тому

      SeamlessR
      Yea i learned about protecting my work from a stream you did with a few of producers. Forgot who said it,but he said never send a mastered mp3 and that he did one time and a label released it and never gave him any money for it. What i learned overall from many videos including this one is to make as much noise as you can (not in a bad way) so many people can hear you whether it's tutorials, selling sample pack, music, playing at events,interviews and anything else that can help promotion.

    • @CmoIsDaNam3i
      @CmoIsDaNam3i 9 років тому

      blood lord It was Direct, he was the one who got ripped off, its also the stream with Xlient and Shaun Law.

  • @spartanlambda1884
    @spartanlambda1884 9 років тому +1

    Remember Expert Village ?

  • @RubyFoxGaming
    @RubyFoxGaming 9 років тому

    That guy with the all body black suit with the white eyes his name is Danger and is to me one of the most unique electronic artist u should check him out

  • @hlobbi
    @hlobbi 9 років тому

    I agree being apolitical will help, but I would rather die as poor artist than have fans that are racist, homophobic, neo-nazies or any other extreme intolerants. Then again, being political, you at least have the scene on your side that agree with you. Say anarchism; "Tod, Steine, Scherben", Pussy Riot, The Sex Pistols and the large part of the punk scene. In the end, I really enjoyed the video, you get straight to the point in an honest no-bullshit way. Really liked this.

  • @eljaycoey6763
    @eljaycoey6763 8 років тому

    sorry this is way off topic but could you possibly make a maduk or soundremedy style tutorial i would realy appreciate.

  • @amandawalls6759
    @amandawalls6759 9 років тому

    this might be a stupid question, but do you find your success limiting? i only have a small following but even with just a few hundred followers, i find if i deviate from my normal style even a bit, i get less plays and start losing followers, i guess my question is, do you find success limits you to a particular style or set of styles? thanks, and great job on everything! your music is awesome and your tutorials have helped me and others to give the world more bass :)

    • @SeamlessR
      @SeamlessR  9 років тому +2

      I feel like the smaller you are the more flexible you can be. Though, for every follower you lose for not sticking to why they like you, chances are you'll gain new followers for whatever new thing you do.
      This is usually why people make side projects.

    • @amandawalls6759
      @amandawalls6759 9 років тому

      thanks! :) do you think side projects should be kept separate? would having links to your main "brand" from side projects give you more exposure or would it dilute your exposure?

    • @SeamlessR
      @SeamlessR  9 років тому +2

      Amanda Walls It depends. I, for example, have a metal band called Krakatoa. I talk about it every so often but I pretty much never promo materials or music from the band unless in passing. Likewise, I never talk about SeamlessR stuff to fans of Krakatoa.
      This may change, but for me it's about what my followers want. The SeamlessR followers have shown that they sometimes like metal. But the people who are fans of Krakatoa pretty much all hate the kind of stuff SeamlessR does.
      Think about Jon Gooch, who is not only Feed Me but also Spor. They're separate, but fans of either usually like the other.
      So, it depends ;p

  • @Yogii0000
    @Yogii0000 9 років тому

    Could you do a vid on how you would go about collabing? I've never gotten my head around how artists do this especially when one of them is in like Canada & the other is in like Australia and travel costs are an issue. Do you just say like "Ok the song is in this bpm it's going to be this genre you go make this part I'll go make this part" & like send each other wav files over skype or something?

    • @SeamlessR
      @SeamlessR  9 років тому +3

      You basically send project files/stems to each other over and over again. Or, in the case of vocalists, you usually give them a demo of the track, they record vocal stems and send them to you, then you mix them into the track.
      Remote collabs are a giant pain in the ass and I straight up avoid doing them.

    • @DanteKishishev
      @DanteKishishev 9 років тому

      To be honest shouldn't be hard if you use the tools available to you, assuming the people you're collabing with aren't useless.
      There's skype, google docs, facebook as well as file sharing websites such as wetransfer and other p2p means.
      But it'd depend on what kind of collab you're looking to do. If your workflow centres on one person (e.g. 1 person does mixing/editing) and everyone has a job it should be pretty easy to do and you should have no problems doing it. And even if you want to do something different, it's simple problemsolving. For audio, yeah, chances are you'd just exchange stems and project files.
      I've only had a small amount of experience, but I'd say it depends mostly on the person/people you're working with.

  • @jo8854
    @jo8854 9 років тому

    Why do all the lords of music production always have this majestic wizardly beard? Seamless' beard rivals rick rubin's

  • @E45COLLECTIVE
    @E45COLLECTIVE 9 років тому

    12:33 His name is "The Bloody Beetroots" :)

  • @SkullfyMusic
    @SkullfyMusic 9 років тому

    Lol "BA MAH PRIVACY!" Idk why i found that so funny..

  • @vTInceptionz
    @vTInceptionz 9 років тому

    I

  • @EricTheYounger
    @EricTheYounger 9 років тому

    how much is your beard insured for?

  • @SojounKaiju
    @SojounKaiju 7 років тому

    EDM'S Spartacus

  • @dementedpenguinz
    @dementedpenguinz 9 років тому

    Does anyone have any labels to get on, just to help with publicity?

    • @twosaibackbot
      @twosaibackbot 9 років тому

      Dude did you actually watch the video?

    • @dementedpenguinz
      @dementedpenguinz 9 років тому

      twosaibackbot Yeah I did, but it still doesn't ruin the fact that getting onto a label - even a small one - is still good for publicity. For me, I only know how to make music (not even that good), I am not good with social media or video editing or stuff like that to make a youtube channel and stuff. While getting onto a label isn't a big thing anymore, it's still a good way to get your music to reach more people :)

  • @bengalbeast7381
    @bengalbeast7381 9 років тому

    the spider man mask artist is bloody beet root.

  • @judemorel7697
    @judemorel7697 9 років тому

    And could I add, if I do make something I think is worth something of high quality, could I send it to you to help me?

  • @danaadalaide5648
    @danaadalaide5648 9 років тому

    When deadmau5 released a track the veldt on his soundcloud, someone took it and added vocals to it - his vocals made it onto the album.. Another idea, if you can sing!

    • @CreateBuildPlay
      @CreateBuildPlay 9 років тому

      1 guy out of thousands of requests.. but still inspirational

  • @rawrmonh
    @rawrmonh 9 років тому

    You thinking of Danger? (:

  • @bomis181094
    @bomis181094 9 років тому +1

    I literally have a file on ym desktop named "dubstep 2" :D Aaaaaand a bunch of other names like that.