How To Choose The "Right" Plugins

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  • Опубліковано 29 гру 2024

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  • @f4j0r
    @f4j0r 9 років тому +27

    Do more of these "rants". They're really helpful.

  • @THEREALDATALORD
    @THEREALDATALORD 9 років тому +6

    Real talk. I spent so much money on buying plugins when I started making music.
    I bought FL Studio, Dimension, Rapture, z3ta, z3ta 2, NI Komplete 7, Sawer, Morphine, Sakura, Poizone, ToxicBiohazard Harmor and Serum...
    The only plugins I found the best workflow in are Sytrus for heavy basses and nice pads, Harmor for leads, heavy basses and pads, Serum for everything, and 3xosc for simple sine wave subs.

  • @voomroom8697
    @voomroom8697 9 років тому +23

    Like every person who was ever introduced to FL Studio and had no musical knowledge, I immediatly went to 3xOsc, and the thing is.
    I've gotten used to it.

    • @jakke0272
      @jakke0272 9 років тому +2

      DUDE sylenth1 is de s*it

    • @voomroom8697
      @voomroom8697 9 років тому

      Ayentey k den i will git
      (demo of course because i'm poor)

    • @jokiboy9153
      @jokiboy9153 9 років тому

      +voomroom Harmor is where it's at!

    • @superstarben37
      @superstarben37 8 років тому

      Ah yes, 3xOsc. For basic stuff, it's not bad, and you can create some really retro stuff with it

    • @apcosmos8709
      @apcosmos8709 8 років тому

      +voomroom I never used 3xOsc in any of my beats. Reading the comments make me want to learn how to use it.

  • @K100music
    @K100music 9 років тому +28

    I found that the more I started to learn and actually get my head around all that stuff the more my music suffered because I got it into my head that doing certain stuff to the audio was ''bad''
    It was hard to get out of that head space but I think I'm coming back from it!

    • @SeamlessR
      @SeamlessR  9 років тому +41

      Similarly, the more I learned about what was actually happening in creating sounds and mixing them the more I learned that basically no one knows what they're talking about when they call anything at all "Bad" for one reason or another.
      It's mostly just their personal opinions about either how things sound or about how things should be done.
      The lesson here is not to pay too much heed to what's "good" or "bad" and just do what you think is "awesome" and go from there ;p

    • @ATAKAYU
      @ATAKAYU 9 років тому +2

      K100 I'm currently in that state-of-mind right now actually, it sucks, but at least I know what my problem is.I'm trying to get out of it but it's surprisingly hard. Oddly enough.

  • @JarrenCrist
    @JarrenCrist 9 років тому +14

    Wise words.
    Remember kids, if you want to be like Seamless, just speak softly and carry a big beard.
    (Also, really enjoyed the video. Gotta appreciate the great advice this guy gives.)

  • @jetlag1488
    @jetlag1488 9 років тому +11

    Been spending months and months on trying to learn how to compress and EQ progressive house (4 on the floor, plucks etc) and I've gone from Fruity Compressor to Fruity Multiband Compressor to Maximus to FabFilter Pro-C for compressors and Fruity Parametic EQ 2 to FabFilter Pro-Q 2 for EQ and I think that what I really need is a tutorial on basic compression and EQ for music that's supposed to have a good dynamic range (not squashed, sausage-y bass/bro-step music :P)
    Too bad there are so many on UA-cam that I can't find the good ones, only random ones that don't have any good explanations in them...
    Very good video, Seamless!
    These tips are very helpful :)

    • @jetlag1488
      @jetlag1488 9 років тому +1

      Like, right now what I do is I put basic compressor settings on my drums and then lower the channel volume until they're not clipping and I don't know if that's a good way to approach it or not :/

    • @90lolaso
      @90lolaso 9 років тому +1

      Jet Lag getthatprosound.com/product/the-ultimate-guide-to-compression/ this book is better than any tutorial

  • @Yotipo
    @Yotipo 9 років тому

    To people looking for signature sounds in certain songs:
    Check out Splice. You get the rundown of the plugins, which DAW the author used, and the names of a lot of samples (which hints at where they originated). This is also handy when trying to pick out certain compressors/reverb/delays/choruses.

  • @lagerbaer
    @lagerbaer 8 років тому +2

    This reminds me of my time hanging out in photography web forums and people would ask things like "What's the best lens to shoot dogs?" or "What flash is the best for babies", hehe.

  • @semlisr2523
    @semlisr2523 9 років тому +51

    what vst plugin brings my sweet innocent children back from the dead

    • @Hotdog7Music
      @Hotdog7Music 9 років тому +83

      toxic biohazard

    • @junglisticluxx
      @junglisticluxx 9 років тому +4

      Bruce Lee THIS COMMENT.

    • @beat_bag
      @beat_bag 9 років тому +1

      SemlisR is this the same guy behind richrud d jomes

    • @tromino2598
      @tromino2598 9 років тому +3

      SemlisR ZynAddSubFX.

    • @jamesgrey13
      @jamesgrey13 8 років тому +1

      Fruity Bass Boost

  • @onemoreconjecture
    @onemoreconjecture 9 років тому

    I completely agree with what you're saying about learning 'types of synthesis'. People focus too much on the characteristics of their tools and not enough on the characteristics of the SCIENCE behind them. As an Ableton using Mac user who cannot get Sytrus or Harmor I've been applying principles from How To Bass to Operator, Analog, Massive etc. Though I sometimes miss some of the functionality that you use in FL, I've still been able to get the characteristic classes of sounds that I've desired, and it has pushed me to try and find my own ways of doing things. Personally though I do feel like the most important aspect of choosing equipment is to choose plug-ins that match the way that you like to think about synthesis. Clearly you like synths which give you the most control and the largest number of options for sound design because this matches your strengths as a musician. Personally I'm really enjoying FM8 at the moment (not had it for long) because it's so focussed on being set up like a keyboard, for me having more performance functionality helps me to focus a little bit more on writing parts. At the moment I'm getting better music out of it than I would probably get out of Sytrus; surely that's the most important thing in the end?

  • @elgamerico
    @elgamerico 9 років тому

    I think it's a good point you mentioned was about what looking into what some of your favourite artists use. I'd change that around and even suggest looking at those who you don't like. I find you can get just much influence in sound that way too.
    Kinda the same approach with music. Sometimes, it's not about liking something personally. But instead, looking at the make up of the track to give you another perspective on what's going on

  • @ItsJustAdrean
    @ItsJustAdrean 3 роки тому

    Before and after sidechain was introduced to my DAW, I've used the 31 channel EQ as a side chain. Literally assigned an audio controller to it. It works, dare I say even better than the multi band compressor I used to use

  • @wasabi333
    @wasabi333 Місяць тому

    Deeply missed, bro. Come back.

  • @anaphylastiks
    @anaphylastiks 9 років тому

    I used to just work with the plugins I had and try to emulate the sounds I liked. Like making FM type sounds in 3xosc using the LFO option in the sampler. Some things like stereo delays were more difficult. But there are some great simple free plugins that make the sound you want and do not stop the work flow by, spending days or weeks trying to figure the plugin out.

  • @laughingman1221
    @laughingman1221 9 років тому +1

    13:04 Seamless mentioned Travis Orbin. I can die now.

  • @nicodemosmusic
    @nicodemosmusic 9 років тому +34

    Oh I am so gonna sample 2:20

    • @Icanhazmochiplz
      @Icanhazmochiplz 9 років тому +2

      Nicodemo Lalli Please yes xD

    • @nicodemosmusic
      @nicodemosmusic 9 років тому +5

      Okay guys! Uploaded it!!!

    • @ScarryChili
      @ScarryChili 9 років тому

      Nicodemo Lalli Can´t find it on your channel...

    • @adriboy4391
      @adriboy4391 9 років тому +8

      ScarryChili soundcloud.com/nicodemosmusic

    • @ScarryChili
      @ScarryChili 9 років тому +1

      donut5 Thanks

  • @VoodooGMusic
    @VoodooGMusic 9 років тому

    Razor and harmor. Harmor big big machine that can do a lot but it can be overcomplicated. Razor small synth that can do a lot and has it#s power inside the modules. Both additive. both completely differen't. both absolutely amazing. Same with Sytrus and FM8.

  • @alainfernandezrosete5933
    @alainfernandezrosete5933 9 років тому

    I have the same concept for my approach to soft synths.. i Use Operator for Fm ..Razor for Additive.....I am discovering Serum which is a wavetable synth..and im using now Izotope Iris2..which performs spectral synthesis..you cand draw in the waveform exacly what part are you going to use for making the sound....which is awesome....and innovative in tha area...

  • @VimDoozy
    @VimDoozy 7 років тому

    I have Serum, Harmor, and Sytrus and I like all of them. The problem I have is that it just seems like too much of a task to take them all on at once, but then it's also difficult to simply pick one of them to focus on first without feeling like I should have went with another.
    Between these 3 synthesizers, does it matter a great deal what type of sounds you want to make, or are they all flexible enough to do a great deal of sounds well, and it's more about the path you take to get to a sound?

  • @fishylad8523
    @fishylad8523 7 років тому

    I can recomend you all to watch this video to the end. super good advice. thanks seamless

  • @BlackAera
    @BlackAera 9 років тому +1

    I have been through the plugin collection phase and I am glad I am done with that shit. Now when I see an interesting plugin, I ask myself if it a) helps me do new valuable things or b) let's me do a thing that I can currently do but in a faster or more effective way. I have been able to get rid of so many copies of plugins that generaly did the same thing. I have Komplete 9 but I rarely use Massive or FM8 (I like morphing sounds with Absynth5 tho, cool as hell) but I accasionaly use SolidEQ or some Kontakt libraries.
    People always ask for "the best synth for genre X" which is the wrong way to go about your synth selection in the first place. Most synths can do most sounds and you get at least one subtractive synth in every major DAW. if you just use that for like 6 months you will know it in and out. Now add some synthesis knowledge and you are good to go. FL has 3cOsc, SimSynth and GMS to get you started and that's more than you need 90% of the time. GMS even does simple FM. I still got Harmless because I love the simple workflow. The interface makes it super easy for me to make decisions quick and move on because it has limited options. I found out that I like simple straight forward synths more than complex feature-packed ones.

  • @nodex3292
    @nodex3292 9 років тому

    Have you made any videos describing the different synthesis?

  • @IAskForNames
    @IAskForNames 9 років тому

    Thank you so much for this video upload SeamlessR. I took away a lot from this tutorial. Hopefully I can now take my sound designing to the next level.

  • @DisfigurmentOfUs
    @DisfigurmentOfUs 9 років тому

    after 6 years of being involved i deleted ~95% of plugins and have been left with 1 plugin of every type i need, now i have 5-10 plugins total and it's the most amazing setup i've ever have to be creative

  • @acecatman
    @acecatman 9 років тому

    massive was 07, not 03. it was released at a time when soft synths started to get taken more seriously by the majority of producers, and the workflow was a hell of a lot more intuitive than the popular synths before it like z3ta+ and rhino. that's why it got so huge

  • @Tehstroyer
    @Tehstroyer 9 років тому

    So Noisia uses Synth1? Didn't knew (unless you meant Sylenth1), but that's a nice piece of trivia. I have only seen them use Drumatic 3 from freeware plugins.

  • @freakyautumn
    @freakyautumn 8 років тому

    Feel the same about workflow with DAW's. Got used to LMMS and I can NOT get into FL. I just have a hell of a time with it ._.

  • @bloodlord1989
    @bloodlord1989 9 років тому +1

    I think you should talk about analog and what you think about it. Analog is the biggest marketing word to sell anything especially plug ins claiming to be exact to real gear,but better they say because without noise and has a mix knob. Analog can go up to 500kz which is limited in digital so it's really hard for anyone to claim to do the impossible and create a plugin that is exactly like real gear,but come close to it. Analog doesn't only effect the mixing/mastering engineers with all the emulation Eq's and compressors,but effects the producers with analog synth plug in's talking about WARMTH a million times along with high quality. Does warmth really mean quality and is cold bad. What about air? Does music need oxygen or something? These are all big questions alot of people are leaving around (except about the oxygen part lol).

    • @FluffSweden
      @FluffSweden 9 років тому

      500kHz!?
      BRUH.

    • @TripleTSingt
      @TripleTSingt 8 років тому +1

      +blood lord (Chaotic Sonics) im really digging ACTUAL analog stuff, like the Korg Volcas or the Arturia Microbrute. It just behaves different, like random stuff that is just sounding great. To date, some plug-ins really come NEAR this sound, behaving almost like analog gear, but not quite. Also analog gear you can touch and play with and turn knobs is a nice workflow. BUT there are certain sounds i just need Massive or Razor for, or even Retrologue (the virtual-analog subtractive synth shipping with Cubase) and i love these Sounds, too. So im a hybrid producer ^^.

  • @OrganicGreens
    @OrganicGreens 9 років тому

    People will tell you that expensive plugins can't make you a better producer and i agree most of the time. How ever there are a few plugins that are so easy to use and sound so good that even tho i hate to admit it just buying them can vastly improve your productions with little to no work on your part. Plugins that come to mind is rvox by waves for vocals as well as Rbase also decapitator

  • @djmonsterbird7087
    @djmonsterbird7087 9 років тому

    I have tried to recreate that teddy killerz reese what you hear in their ragga bomb remix... I have so many problems like: should i use massive or fm8? How should i use phasing and filtering? And many more questions... I love reese basses. It is hard to make really good reeses and i would like to learn more about making them. So seamless... if you want to answer this, i would really like to exchance thoughts n stuff... if you could get in touch with me in the comments and go from there... sorry for my languague... not a native english speaker :)

  • @ItsJamisonJamison
    @ItsJamisonJamison 9 років тому +3

    can you remake a madeon song

  • @enf.o.i.3382
    @enf.o.i.3382 9 років тому

    Awesome man, great advice!

  • @tyronewilliams3399
    @tyronewilliams3399 9 років тому

    Yo seamless do you have a degree in Music Production or anything? I'm looking to become and engineer and work at a studio for a living and I wanted to be sure on what classes to take in college.

  • @ItsJustAdrean
    @ItsJustAdrean 3 роки тому

    Personally, I only go to get new plugins when I have writers block. Things I like, small size, strangeness, potential to simplify workflow

  • @GarronsMusic
    @GarronsMusic 9 років тому +1

    Have you tried bitwig seamless? if you haven't you should play around with it! i can see you loving the modulation!

    • @Scottie001
      @Scottie001 9 років тому

      Yeah bitwig is awesome but I think it might take seamless some time to learn bitwig.

    • @GarronsMusic
      @GarronsMusic 9 років тому

      Kaleb Hernandez Dat modulation though.

    • @svenwever6211
      @svenwever6211 9 років тому

      BrainLaxativeMusic
      I use bitwig and yes its awesome.. but harmor doesnt update his modulation somehow..(you have to search thru them in your parameter browser, and it looks like this guy is married to harmor?

  • @snakenose1
    @snakenose1 9 років тому

    The problem that I run into is lack of knowledge. My tracks are sounding decent to my ears but they lack the refinement of the pros. Is it my sound design or problems with my mix or.....so then you hear this plugin that seems to make everything sound amazing and you think ....man.....I need that thing....when in fact it would be better if i understood what it was doing or why it makes their track sound so great. It's really tough to find tutorials on "why doesn't my track sound professional" though and marketing people love to exploit "get that pro sound with this plugin" like you were saying about the drummer using certain types of cymbals. This is a pretty broad topic but would you ever think about doing a set of vids on identifying problems in your mix and/or sound design? How to identify and how to fix? Alot of times as I watch your vids I'm thinking "why did he do that" or "how did he know to do that".

  • @werehogify
    @werehogify 9 років тому

    Okay so I have a basic idea of the synths I want to use. I'm just conflicted between which ones I should learn first. Seamless, could you compare what you like about Massive and Serum? Any advice would be great thanks

    • @aqilproductions
      @aqilproductions 8 років тому

      +werehogify Once you learn one plugin from the inside out, it becomes so much easier to learn another plugin- especially when you want to learn both massive and serum as they are both synths that use subtractive synthesis. :)

  • @malcolmmillar7702
    @malcolmmillar7702 9 років тому +1

    I think these plugins are "good", at least these are the ones I use
    Izotope's Breaktweaker demo version
    Sylenth1
    Serum!!
    Harmor
    NI massive for High pitched scream sounds I never use it for bases thats what I use serum for.
    Ableton 9.1.5
    Fl studio"For editing audio and mastering"
    Izotope's Ozone 6 for mastering
    I also really like Cat Blue's EQ.

    • @malcolmmillar7702
      @malcolmmillar7702 9 років тому

      Malcolm Millar I would say that when it comes to Super Saws jp6k is the best but I don't have enofe money do buy it and I can find it cracked.

  • @sergiohack9731
    @sergiohack9731 2 роки тому

    THANK YOU SO MUCH

  • @austinanderson3991
    @austinanderson3991 7 років тому

    Holy shit I love your videos bud

  • @jimtkaczyk2776
    @jimtkaczyk2776 9 років тому

    I see this all the time on twitch with people asking streamers what keyboard or mouse their using, as if they can get the same keyboard and instantly be better at a game. Its the same with what synth you use. Its more about knowing how to use what you have then having more stuff. I have bought too many plug ins :(

  • @musicoff-the-wall7032
    @musicoff-the-wall7032 9 років тому +1

    Thank you! :-)

  • @ctrecordl4044
    @ctrecordl4044 2 роки тому

    thank you

  • @SaturnsMysteriousEye
    @SaturnsMysteriousEye 9 років тому

    Honestly, I've found that you can make almost any plugin work as long as you put time learning how to use it.

  • @RefractOfficialMusic
    @RefractOfficialMusic 9 років тому +1

    What Plug-ins, do people find, make the best super saws?

    • @eriklucasmusic
      @eriklucasmusic 9 років тому +1

      Supersaws? Sylenth1 is great for that.

    • @biuuuwulf6975
      @biuuuwulf6975 9 років тому +4

      Harmor and harmless are fantastic super saws.

    • @eriklucasmusic
      @eriklucasmusic 9 років тому +1

      Epix Tank Man This is true. I regret saying sylenth1.

    • @anaphylastiks
      @anaphylastiks 9 років тому

      +RefractOfficial Vanguard ,hands down.

    • @fredrikuppsall1043
      @fredrikuppsall1043 9 років тому

      +RefractOfficial Synaptic Dune 2 i have tried most alternatives but Dune 2 even beats my Virus TI for supersaw sounds.

  • @mr.mrowmusic8255
    @mr.mrowmusic8255 5 років тому

    "for the most part, no one will ever know"
    Thanks

  • @neoncat426
    @neoncat426 6 років тому

    Serum is a must-have though

  • @bhstromtrooper7034
    @bhstromtrooper7034 9 років тому

    i can't afford Fl or Massive do you know how to crack it or other ways of getting it

    • @tromino2598
      @tromino2598 9 років тому +2

      [B+H]stromtrooper Just get LMMS.

    • @anaphylastiks
      @anaphylastiks 9 років тому +1

      +[B+H]stromtrooper I pirated for years, but when you get serious, the cracked versions always have bugs. So it is best to buy it.

    • @bhstromtrooper7034
      @bhstromtrooper7034 9 років тому

      i got a job at MC D and saved up now i do have it

  • @Hyperdelica-Xander
    @Hyperdelica-Xander 8 років тому

    I don't know if you already have, but you should make a video for the top 10 most useful plugins.

    • @shaflie
      @shaflie 8 років тому

      That is just waaaay too subjective. They're different for everyone.

    • @Hyperdelica-Xander
      @Hyperdelica-Xander 8 років тому +1

      Obviously it would be based on his personal opinion. Just like everything else.

    • @Hyperdelica-Xander
      @Hyperdelica-Xander 8 років тому

      Or he could make several videos with genre being the subject.

  • @jaelawrence1456
    @jaelawrence1456 8 років тому

    perfect video

  • @kevintwine2315
    @kevintwine2315 9 років тому

    I used to always 'plugin chase' as I call it,blaming how good my tracks were based on what I used to produce them,it wasn't until I watched your videos that I realised I was wrong to do this,so so wrong

  • @probablyawake
    @probablyawake 9 років тому +1

    You should make a plugin.

    • @xXGuitarMuffinsXx
      @xXGuitarMuffinsXx 9 років тому

      He's not a programmer.

    • @probablyawake
      @probablyawake 9 років тому +2

      NO, really? I'm sure he'd make a real awesome one if he got people together to do it.

    • @xXGuitarMuffinsXx
      @xXGuitarMuffinsXx 9 років тому +1

      OfficialDJEnterPrize Idk what's with the sarcasm considering what you said lmao

    • @probablyawake
      @probablyawake 9 років тому +1

      Just love me like you do.

  • @s3ntry948
    @s3ntry948 8 років тому

    My idol is Mozart.

  • @Submersed24
    @Submersed24 9 років тому

    Is it just me, or whenever I open up sylenth 1, I lose my creativity because everything feels so limited. I feel like all of the sounds it can make have been done a million times already.

    • @SaturnsMysteriousEye
      @SaturnsMysteriousEye 9 років тому

      There are two plugins that both my friends who use FL Studio and I use, and they are Sylenth1 and Massive. To us these two feel like opposite ends of a spectrum. Sylenth1 is relatively easy to use, and you can make some pretty decent sounds without really knowing what you're doing. However, it kind of stops there. On the other hand, Massive is really complex, it has a whole bunch of options, a whole bunch of effects and big words and all that. The problem is, chances are you're not going to make a good noise just by messing around or guessing. You need to figure out what you're doing and how to do it.

  • @Kandoblue
    @Kandoblue 9 років тому

    not one comment about Wide Range.......1st!!!

  • @203_Boy
    @203_Boy 9 років тому

    Serum is boss

  • @g.o.9513
    @g.o.9513 2 роки тому

    First Principles Thinking Here.

  • @rammsteinrulz16
    @rammsteinrulz16 8 років тому

    You're... Dreamless?

  • @thomasedison4264
    @thomasedison4264 9 років тому

    you didn't tell us what day it was :S Your whole video now makes no sense!

  • @adsftwbo
    @adsftwbo 9 років тому

    First!!!