I'm old school. I still shoot with my Nikon D600 + 50mm 1.2 AI-s. All the latest cameras have the same iphone experience and similar digital output. At 65, it gets more emotional and less logical. You see there is not much sand left in the hour glass. The time has come to buy the Leica M10. In the end, we all want a Leica.
When u buy a Leica, lenses and stuffs and realised that your photography is still the same, then the reality hits. (Because it’s NEVER about the camera) 🤭
Just got myself a Leica M9. It’s been the best decision ever. My interest and love of photography has been piqued again. I’m loving the whole process without the EVF, no chimping, no extra and waffle getting in the way. The image quality is superb and I feel connected with the camera that I’ve not with any other.
Having used Canon and Fujifilm in the past (with a whole stable of lenses and accessories), I found paring down my kit to an M10-R and Q2 to be quite liberating. There's so much more with less clutter, and the shooting experience with the M10 is so satisfying.
Love this, if i could afford an M10 i would be all over it. Like you i cant see myself going back to shooting FILM, The buying of the FILM, the shooting of the film, to then SEND it out to get it PROCESSED and then to scan it for the World Wide Web, then the expense, NAH!!!!! Digital all day for me, that FILM FAD which has recently risen will soon go away! GREAT VIDEO. I shoot with an X-PRO 3 myself, Love it.
Really enjoyed this video; related very closely with my own experience. The M8 is my first Leica, I typically shoot it or an X100s. The X100s is the one that's always in my bag (it is tiny and so lightweight!) but I'm edging toward taking the M8 more often - the tactile and emotional connection that the M8 imbues indeed cannot be explained. Glad to have come across your channel, and looking forward to checking your other content and reading through the comments of your well-informed and passionate viewers.
I moved up to the M10 a few months ago after 9 years of shooting the M-E (type 220); no sensor issues at all. As much as I loved the M-E, the M10 is wonderful! I debated the M10 vs the M11 but after tons of comparisons I decided on the M10 as having exactly what I wanted, no more. I is the camera that gets me out to shoot as my buddy fumbles with settings and buttons on the back of his DSLR. It is a keeper!
Hello, I shoot with an M10r for similar reasons i.e lack of technical distractions and simplicity. I don’t think the experience is close to film though as the mindset for me is completely different. With film the limitations are far greater in regards to light changes (fixed iso) and your mindset when pressing the shutter - is it really worth a frame and is one frame enough. Cheers for the perspective.
Makes a lot of sense to me. I love the M10 so far. I also bought mine only recently. I also have an M8 which I can’t see myself ever selling. The M10 is just more versatile and I can easily use it with lower light indoors.
Been really enjoying your Leica videos. I left Sony for Fuji, and love Fuji, have 3 bodies, 8 lenses. But I fear the M11 is just not going to stay out of my hands much longer. Big question, I think I know your answer, but once I buy the M11, and I can only afford one lens, which one(s) do you suggest? TIA.
Hard question to answer without knowing budget! Voigtlander make some awesome lenses! And maybe it’s better having a couple of those over one Leica lens If I could only use one lens then probably a 35mm, f2 or f1.4 depending on budget I think it might be the most versatile 2 lenses then I love the 28mm and 50mm combo
@@Goughie I thought you'd say the 35 1.4 and that is my lean too. But the Voigtlanders sure are nice and pack way above their price weights....very difficult. I need more videos from you.
Great description on feeling like you’re the only person in your family that can take a photo of your dog moving towards you with a Leica M. I understand this so much and the reason I got an M240 was because I love film photography and these systems bring you right back into that. The draw towards rangefinder style is just because my nose is big and I could have my face resting on the side of the camera and I could open my left eye and see what else is coming into frame. Again, great video.
I was shooting Sony and Fuji, then I bought the Q2 mono and I truly loved the manual focusing on that camera. Now I also shoot the M11. True range finders are a joy.
When I was young and later studying, I was always short on money. I always had to rethink every buy and most of the time logically sell one part of my gear to do a logical purchase of another one. Today, I luckily have a decent job and therefore stopped selling one logic. Once I had to sell my Canon 5D classic, which haunted me so long, that later on, i had to emotionally rebuy it again. :) And even, if I have a better camera, the 5D classic. The old one is everytime in reach and still gets used a lot.
Completely understand! I actually also made a similar video "justifying" why I bought it. Like Eric said below, welcome to the M10 club and happy shooting! 🤘🏻
I've been on the fence about buying an m10 for almost a year. Still haven't pulled the trigger. I think your talk about emotional purchases vs logical purchases was eye opening. It is tough because I haven't ever had my hands on one to really truly know what it's like but I have a feeling it will be everything I think it to be. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Used M6 for years. Actually learned photography with analog. But with prices going up I was curious of going more digital. Used the Fuji with my Leicalenses. Didn`t like using the fuji compared to the M6. A friend hat an M10 to try out, and I was hooked. Just felt excactly like the M6. Still kind of bummed on the price, but hey, resale is pretty good…
Having owned alot of camera brands over the years, I think the Fuji came closest to Leica in terms of 'having a soul'. Yes I miss (a little) the latest fastest techno whizz camera features, but the experiences generally left me cold. I now use a Leica SL601 and Q2 which are amazing to use. I recommend everyone buy a used or rent a Leica camera just to experience the 'soul' they have and how they contribute to the photography experience. Great words and great video 👍👍👍
I agree! Fujifilm gets pretty close! And for results photography are my number one choice! And I get a lot of enjoyment out of the X100V I’ve managed to avoid using an SL as I worry it’ll empty the bank account 😂 the other issue being weight as well but the newer len choice is helping. I agree with the trying one part! Even just holding one seems to spark interest! Thank you!!
You both a killing me! I use the XPro3, and the Xpro2 before that, for all my commercial, fashion, product, and my own personal family work and love the experience of that camera. However, I've been lusting after an M for a very long time. It's hard to justify a logical, if a bit unpractical, Fufi rangefinderesqe AND a much much more expensive M. But here I am still emotionally considering it! Thanks for sharing your experiences with the community though!
Never owned a Leica but I have owned lots of classic 35mm and Medium format film cameras. Due to the cost of Leicas (both digital and film) it's not something I'll be acquiring anytime soon. I can understand your decision though on why you bought your M10. I'll be sticking with my X-T2, X-E1 and Panasonic G9 all of which I'm really happy with. I still have 6 rolls of Kentmere Pan 100. Once they are gone I will be selling my Minolta X700 and Praktica Super TL3, the last of my film cameras. Be happy and enjoy your purchase.
Over the years I've had X-100s, X-Pro1,2 and 3! And I just couldn't get the images to look the way I liked! I wasn't happy with the Dynamic Range and image quality overall. They didn't excite me when I looked at them. Got my M10 around a year ago and I just love the files. I hardly have to touch in Lightroom to get the colours the way I want them, the images look gorgeous. The M10 isn't perfect though, very easy blow out the highlights, which you've mentioned. And I must say I do miss autofocus sometimes. Didn't think I would. The minimal focus distance of 0.7 metres also frustrates me from time to time. And trying to focus wide open in low light with the patch is a skill I've yet to master! LV and Focus Peaking not as good as on the Fujis either? I do love that massive OVF and the images when you get it right. Using Zone Focusing and Sunny 16 in Venice this year was amazing. I got some of my favourite shots ever. But you definitely have to work for them and it does have its limitations.
That 70cm annoys me at times too! I don’t struggle too much with low light focus, I often find the opposite a pain, if the sun is bright and coming directly towards me
Awesome video! That is a great justification :D Never thought of it that way, but you are spot on. The relationship we all have with cameras and lenses is definitely this fine balance between logical and emotional decisions XD
I’ve been shooting with an M7 for 5 years now and, after bouncing between Nikon and Sony for digital, I finally sold my A7iii to buy an M240. From the moment I picked it up, it felt familiar. Unlike the Sony, it makes me want to pick it up and use it every single day. Hard to justify the cost, yes, but I’ve yet to shoot with a digital camera that makes me enjoy the process as much as a digital M. Though, to your point, I’m still rocking analog watches too.
Trying so hard not to get a Leica I certainly want one but do I need one. I shoot a lot of different cameras both digital and film my current faves are the fuji Xpro 2 and a couple of 50s folders the bessa 2 and the Ikonta m. I know one day I’ll get a Leica M it’s just a matter of time I do love the simplicity of them. Right now as much as I’m enjoying the Xpro my folders are so simple and basic I get far more of a buzz when a shot works out on them. Nice vid mate cheers
I have an M4 and an M246. The M246 is as close as I get to "film" while still using digital. However, the M4 is a lot more fun to use, since there is a much more direct connection between pushing the button and taking the photo. THe M246 needs some time to start up, and when you push the shutter button the effect is not instant.
I think you are on to something when comparing the M10 experience with that of shooting film. If you refrain from constantly checking your liveview and just go out and shoot, the actual experience is very similar to analog photography. You become far more present in the situation you're trying to capture, and it is a much more rewarding experience - to the extend where you might find yourself not missing the film photography at all.. That happened to me - until I somewhat contradictory decided, that I have to own an M3. Now I have to shoot a film or two a year to justify if, but just looking at the two cameras together is all worth it ;-) The M10 is such an enjoyable camera to use. Ergonomics are great, the tactile feel ditto, and it's not just a retro look - it simply is a very functional design incorporating experience and feedback over more than a century. The functional also shows remarkeable tendency to look stunning too
This is almost identical to my journey with film and digital too. I have fuji x-pro 2 at the moment, which I love, but I really miss my Leica M8 and I know when I can afford it I will be going back to Leica again. The Leica M8 was far inferior to the X-pro 2, but I loved it more. For now my film photography is now BNW occasionally, with home dev and colour for birthdays !
I now have two Leicas. I got a used M10 this spring and a used M10M this week. As long as I'm extremely careful with exposure, I can get great results from both. I wouldn't want to pay much more than $5000 for either of them though. That's a fair price in my opinion. They both blow highlights while the camera is telling you that the exposure is correct. This obviously complicates the process of getting a good exposure. These cameras are for serious enthusiasts, because casual shooters wouldn't tolerate these kinds of issues in a Sony or Canon mirrorless camera.
I have never watched a video that describes how I feel towards gear, ever. I have both these cameras, and the q2, and the GFX 100S. My fuji's make me money and pay the bills. The M10 makes me want to go out with my family and create something. But I sold my M240 as well, along with my Black Chrome lenses because of logic. I just sent this to my wife so she can understand me, since I can´t communicate haha.
I too use M to take pictures of my golden doddle. Still working hard get a perfect one when running up the stairs. Of course it is not logical to shoot action with a M, but I like it, and that is enough.
I would have to agree that after getting the m10, I haven’t shot on the m3. The m10 gives the same pleasure in shooting as does the m3 w/o the wait of film developing and scanning. Question what is your favorite lens to use on the m10? Thanks
Now that my commercial photo career is over, and I’m Retiered I can shoot whatever I want. I too started out with the Fuji, X100, then XPro2, then XT3, then XPro3, until I sold all the Fuji cameras and lenses and moved over to Leica 10-R. Yeah, that is the sweet spot for me. Totally happy with this setup and won’t be looking back.
I picked up an m10 in January em in anticipation of film costs rising and scarcity, everyone shoots film in LA so it’s always sold out as you can imagine. Luckily the experience is still there, even if I have to edit images again at least I still shoot it like an M and don’t end up with tons of photos to post process after each outing.
All your points are on the spot. To have a logical mindset involves fulfilling your emotional side too. It’s all about balance, and since most of the time rational and emotional cannot be achieved at the same time, with the same decision, we need to split this in two. Another aspect related to buying M cameras is that if do the purchase closed to the bottom of the depreciation curve, you will not lose money when selling them. So shooting Leica might be one of the best free things in life - sounds strange, I know. The only thing not accurate in your video was talking about automatic watches, yet showing a manual winding Speedy (a perfect one watch collection). Keep it up! Just got yourself a new subscriber
Agree with the buying a selling! It makes it very easy to switch and experiment with different lenses Ahah! Was hoping people wouldnt notice that with the watch analogy! 😂 I planned on showing a different watch at that point but decided against it
I did the same thing. I recently picked up a m10p. I love it compared to my mp240. its so much more like the m7 I had and sold. Also I like the phone app for the m10. The only thing I think its lacking is the battery life. The batterys on the m240 generation are amazing. I hear you on shooting film. I have found my self at a crossroads. I love shooting 35mm film but I cant justify spending 17 USD on kodak color plus 200 and then pay for processing thats for me at the cheapest is 10$ per roll. I am still shooting some medium format film though. instead of investing in 35mm film I have just been saving for different lenses I have always wanted for my M system.
In my M10 review I’ll compare to my M240! But agree with all you’ve said Phone app is great! Slimmer design is awesome Smaller batteries is noticeably worse Better white balance
I just emotionally bought an M10 monochrom… it’s not arrived yet. I know I’ll love it, but I wonder if I’ll one day wonder if I should have got an M10-R instead..!
A couple years ago I got a Leica IIIf and that was a gateway Leica camera, now I picked up an M9 and love it so far. I was getting tired of all the buttons on my Sony and wanted a photo experience more like my vintage Leica or Canon F1, the M9 fits that desire perfectly. Definitely an emotional aspect to it yet there is also logic to using a simply designed camera which may get you out taking more photos.
I wanted to get a M6 but film is very expensive nowadays so I got the M10 instead and enjoyed for the same reasons as you did. Also I have the same 35mm f2 lens and speedmaster watch 😂. I understand the Apple Watch v.a. Mechanical watch comparison.
Surprised how much I geeked out on the M11 when I rented it. Buts it’s just as susceptible to digital rot as any other camera. I use Leica lenses on an xt3. Great combo. Also the fuji x100v checks a lot of boxes that the Leica did except for not being a full frame.
Welcome to the M10 club (is there an echo in here?)! I agree and have come around to feeling the same way about having a Leica M in the arsenal. It is *mostly* illogical and emotional but that’s fine!
I recently got a Minolta CLE with a 40mm Summicron-c for travel and i was surprised at how much I enjoy using it. By all measures of logic the purchase made no sense. However, it’s absolutely a blast to use and the scans that I got back are just drawing me back to the time I spent in the sun. Now I’m bitten by the bug…
Your watch analogy is the same as I use as when explaining my camera choice! Using an M camera is all about the feel and experience. It's hard to explain to people who aren't emotional buyers/users.
Moved from pro 3 to m10 and I check every single box of yours! If the pro 4 has a real range finder mechanism (it will not), then fuji will have a long queue to the shop 😅
I am on the fence about getting a Leica M10R. I have been a digital photographer since about 2004 and have owned over 20 cameras, the latest being a Canon R5. The move to a Leica Rangfinder is a difficult one for me. 5K plus say £500 for a 35mm Zeiss, is expensive but I hope I can push the button on one soon. I also do aviation so my R5 will take care of that, the Leica is just for holidays and travel etc. But then again my iPhone 13 pro max, ticks that box.
The M is a good camera if you have a typical mirrorless camera to back it up! R5 and an M would be a good combo! It’s definitely expensive to enter the Leica world but it all holds its value so well that if you’re savvy you can swap bodies and lenses without losing money
What do you think about the difference between m240 and m10? I sold my m262 and bought a m10 and in some weird not logical way I kind of miss my m262 and feel it was even more like a film camera.
Currently I’m preferring the M10, I’ll add a section to the M10 review that compares to the M240. The thinner body and better white balance are the two of the main reasons
I’m kind of in the same boat. I have a M240 which I really love, but just bought emotionally an M10-P because of improvements and new features. The logic tells me to sell the M240 but I can’t stop thinking will I then start to miss it. 😕
Congratulations on the M10. Today when driving I heard a programme on the return of vinyl and an interview with the owner of Rega. I think there is definitely a connection and this desire to be close to the mechanics and the process, for the experience. I also think that the quest for perfection is also an interesting one as so often perfection is boring and interesting cameras and interesting lenses can lead to a different look. For me one of the images that pleased me most was a shot taken using a Helios 44-2 on a Leica M. I worked out the camera body cost me 270 times the Len’s, but the look was great… and yes I could have no doubt achieved the same look mounting the lens on an A7.
I bought a used M10-P a couple of years ago and quickly fell in love with the experience. It inspired me enough to try out this UA-cam stuff as well (one of the extra motivations to go out and do some M photography). I also had the chance to try out an M11 recently, which was quite enjoyable 😀. Feel free to have a look and tell me what you think ✌🏻
I can fully understand why you got an M10. Taking pictures with a Leica is absolutely emotional and illogical at first. Buying a Leica is in principle inexpensive if you take the loss into account. Since the M10 will certainly hardly lose value in contrast to any other fuji camera.
Yes! It’s hard to enter the market but once you do it’s very stable! My M240 essentially rose in value during the 5 years I owned it! I just wish you could still buy a 50mm ASPH summilux for the same price I sold one for 3-4 years ago 😂
I would have bought a m10r reporter in a heartbeat if I could have afforded one .. even sat down with pen and paper to see what could be done .. but no way … shame.. loved that camera.
You put it so well . I totally get it . In my own case I fought against the logic of a full frame camera for a MFT camera . The why was simple enough ; I wanted small, light , go anywhere camera that was fun to use and provided very useable images for my photo books . The sad irony of all this logic is that I never feel the same emotional attachment to photos taken with my phone , but they are as useable and as satisfying in the books as Those taken on the camera with a great lens . We should not over complicate why we like using a particular piece of gear and should focus more on the creative juices we have to produce a body of work that is initially gratifying to us and secondly to others . There is no perfect camera we all know; but it does not stop us aspiring to there being one ha ha. I enjoyed the video .
Leica look dosent exsist, but Leica is pretty good in selling emotions. Love using the m10 and m6. It’s all about the experience plus the solid Build and classic look of the M series. Just leave the logic behind you cant resist anyway …..
@@Goughie if you don’t mind only have f2.5 I would HIGHLY recommend this lens. It has a sense of character to the images yet is still sharp. It’s crazy small too so keeps the kit light weight. Compact and the view finder wide open for focusing. I’d probably have another lens in my kit with a wider aperture for when I shoot at night, since I tend to do a lot of night time shooting. Or just maybe leave that for the a7iii lol. Oh and if you need a wider aperture 50mm if recommended the voigtlander 50mm f1.5 Nokton mkii
@@Holl.Mvrk. I have the voigtlander 50mm f1.5 version 1, love the lens tbh! Packs character! Just a shame about the focus ring on it. Debating an older 50mm summicron. A long time ago I had the 35mm f2.5 and I really liked that! Small and packed a punch!
@@Goughie I am a focus tab snob 🤣 so I strongly dislike when lenses lack them. So I get your gripes with the focus ring ! I know the summicron is always everyone’s go to. I wish voigtlander would make a 50mm ultron similar size to their 35mm version. Whew.
I have promised myself not to buy M11 (after in the past having two M9s and M 240) all now sold. I am happy using SL2S with SL zooms and M lenses via adapter. On a related issue I am now on my third Summilux 1.4/50 that I recently advertised for sale, but since withdraw from sale. I am still finding some reasons to get the M11, but the head is telling me NO. Who knows what the future brings, I know how you feel.
eBay, it came with a whole bunch of extras, 35mm f1.4 voigtlander; and a EVF and some other bits, selling it all results in £3k for the camera One ended on eBay at £2850 last week in my watch list, was a little beaten up though, they do appear just got to keep an eye out as they sell quick
For years I had been shooting the Leica M6 with: 90mm f/2 35mm f/1.4 21mm f/1.4 I patiently waited for Leica to build a digital rangefinder that was like my M6 film rangefinder. In 2017, I purchased a black Leica M10. However, my M10 was so defective that Leica gave me a full refund instead of repairing it. I later purchased a used chrome Leica M10 that spent more time in the repair shop than I spent using it. I will probably never buy another Leica digital because my experience has soured me to them.
I cannot afford a Digital Leica. I have my Film Leica. Rather than huge transplant operation, I use film and bleed a little each time! Leica cameras have a strong character. If you bond, I's fun. If not use your phone! I love my M3 55 years in my use!
Everything comes full circle.. Analogue/Street photographers inevitably end with Leica at some point (again & again & again)...its nature no need to explain lol
I think people with leica are too emotional, they are not thinking about practicality. Not everyone with a Leica is Henri Cartier Bresson. To be honest give Henri any camera and I’m pretty sure he will capture great pictures.
Maybe that’s another way of looking at it! Too emotional There’s definitely a subsection of Leica users that think using it makes them him, but I’m not sure the majority do! Agree! It’s interesting to think about what camera today the greats would use, ultimately it doesn’t matter, it was their skill and eye rather than what they chose to capture it!
Great to see so many M owners posting, I have to say that as a Fuji shooter, I'm essentially also a closet Leicaphile but I'd really like to hear from Leica owners and the so-called upkeep of the actual bodies, you hear all these tales of the rangefinder needing adjustment, sometimes even having to travel back to HQ in Germany - if true then that is as much of a concern as the steep pricing. Thoughts?
M11 appears to be a bit of a nightmare, loads of cameras shipping with issues. I’ve shot Leica rangefinders for nearly 6 years and I’ve never had to get it calibrated. I know what you mean though you do hear stories
@@Goughie Yes, it doesn't help Leica's cause that a certain very well known shooter with white hair harking from New York City on UA-cam reporting via a video that his M11 simply failed to switch on one morning, to his credit in his video he remains somewhat philosophical - It happens!
@@guillaumesandmayer7053 it’s not just them though, forums are filled with it. You’re right though, no one makes a video saying today my camera switched on 😂
Not so much emotion; more like spirit. And without spirit we wouldn't make art in the first place. Without spirit we would just perform bodily functions and die. Man how boring. After all that previous painstaking logic you came down on the side of the Fujifilm and you bought a Leica anyway. Now you're free to make your art because its your free spirit making it. Don't get me wrong. Logic is not a dirty word. We still need logic. Without obeying the dogmatic rules of science we'd never find our freedom to fly to the moon or drive a car. Without obeying the dogmatic rules of physics we'd never find our freedom to be able to build a camera to make art with in the first place. And yet why fly to the moon or build a camera if not moved by the spirit. We are complicated us humans.
Geez. Get over Portra. It's not the only relevant color film out there. Everyone seems to think they have to depend on Portra to get the results they want and need - and it's simple pretentious. Fuji sells re-labeled Gold at a retail price of much less than Portra and I managed to pick up large quantities of that emulsion fresh at a lower than retail price in bulk from a local store. Yes, film is not cheap. But it's readily available, Portra is over-hyped.
Curious to know what colour Fujifilm you just got at a good price? And this channel features a lot of films 😂 not just Portra… Kodak Gold / colour plus is my personal colour films of choice if it matters, thankfully gold is easier to get than most here in the U.K.
£3,000? Man that’s cheap! Try a brand new M10R Black Paint edition 😀 … I sold the Pro3 also, got the 10R. I just stopped pretending and got what I really wanted. You end up just using it like any other mirrorless camera. “Why I use Leica” is an impossible question to answer on UA-cam. I just hope you don’t get too many trolls. We shouldn’t justify why we shoot leica. If someone doesn’t get it then fine. Get a Sony or whatever. I don’t care what anyone shoots. But the Leica M10R is my only camera. I take it everywhere. I’ve never used any camera more. Also, I’ve found the Leica community is so nice. Not the Leica collectors, but the photographers. They just love photography and they’re not obsessed with gear. I found the Fuji people to be obsessed with gear and the brand and it’s pretty toxic. Too bad you’re not posting on Instagram, but I’ll do a follow anyway. If you see me say hello. 🍻 For me Instagram is just for that. Any of those dog photos or flowers or whatever. Daily shooting. Just share it. I don’t think the IG feed has to be all manicured and all that. Maybe one for business and another personal one. I like personal photos better than the “Instagram photo” look.
I did well didn’t I! It came with a lens and some accessories, and all said and done it ended up being about £3k It’s got me looking and the M10R for sure! Extra megapixels would be nice! Especially with Leica glass I don’t post images much! I should do it more! But I’m very active on stories! I end up using Insta as a great tool for chatting to like minded people!
@@Goughie Yea. That’s what I do also. I settled on the 50 summicron (v5). Amazing lens. I have the 28 Ultron II also as a companion lens. That’s a great little lens. The 10R’s sensor is much better. Not just more megapixels, but better dynamic range, colors, no more blown highlights. It’s just a better sensor overall. The jump from the M240 to the M10 was good though.
I'm old school. I still shoot with my Nikon D600 + 50mm 1.2 AI-s. All the latest cameras have the same iphone experience and similar digital output. At 65, it gets more emotional and less logical. You see there is not much sand left in the hour glass. The time has come to buy the Leica M10. In the end, we all want a Leica.
Still shoot a d600 and a 50mm 1.8. Best combo ever.
When u buy a Leica, lenses and stuffs and realised that your photography is still the same, then the reality hits. (Because it’s NEVER about the camera) 🤭
I hear you. If you want it and can afford it, buy it. Life is short
@@vitabcdefghijklmno nobody who's done any research buys a leica for better images, they buy them for the experience of using them
Just got myself a Leica M9. It’s been the best decision ever. My interest and love of photography has been piqued again. I’m loving the whole process without the EVF, no chimping, no extra and waffle getting in the way. The image quality is superb and I feel connected with the camera that I’ve not with any other.
Having used Canon and Fujifilm in the past (with a whole stable of lenses and accessories), I found paring down my kit to an M10-R and Q2 to be quite liberating. There's so much more with less clutter, and the shooting experience with the M10 is so satisfying.
This M10 has me considering an M10-R the extra cropping ability combine with my favourite focal length of 28mm could be a big win
I have the same 2-camera combo! Love it..
Love this, if i could afford an M10 i would be all over it. Like you i cant see myself going back to shooting FILM, The buying of the FILM, the shooting of the film, to then SEND it out to get it PROCESSED and then to scan it for the World Wide Web, then the expense, NAH!!!!! Digital all day for me, that FILM FAD which has recently risen will soon go away! GREAT VIDEO. I shoot with an X-PRO 3 myself, Love it.
Really enjoyed this video; related very closely with my own experience. The M8 is my first Leica, I typically shoot it or an X100s.
The X100s is the one that's always in my bag (it is tiny and so lightweight!) but I'm edging toward taking the M8 more often - the tactile and emotional connection that the M8 imbues indeed cannot be explained. Glad to have come across your channel, and looking forward to checking your other content and reading through the comments of your well-informed and passionate viewers.
I moved up to the M10 a few months ago after 9 years of shooting the M-E (type 220); no sensor issues at all. As much as I loved the M-E, the M10 is wonderful! I debated the M10 vs the M11 but after tons of comparisons I decided on the M10 as having exactly what I wanted, no more. I is the camera that gets me out to shoot as my buddy fumbles with settings and buttons on the back of his DSLR. It is a keeper!
Hello, I shoot with an M10r for similar reasons i.e lack of technical distractions and simplicity. I don’t think the experience is close to film though as the mindset for me is completely different. With film the limitations are far greater in regards to light changes (fixed iso) and your mindset when pressing the shutter - is it really worth a frame and is one frame enough. Cheers for the perspective.
Makes a lot of sense to me. I love the M10 so far. I also bought mine only recently. I also have an M8 which I can’t see myself ever selling. The M10 is just more versatile and I can easily use it with lower light indoors.
As is often said in Harley Davidson circles when asked why one rides a Harley, "If I have to explain you wouldn't understand." Same goes for Leica.
Harleys are about image, making noise and being seen. Leica is about fundamentals and pure photography
Been really enjoying your Leica videos. I left Sony for Fuji, and love Fuji, have 3 bodies, 8 lenses. But I fear the M11 is just not going to stay out of my hands much longer. Big question, I think I know your answer, but once I buy the M11, and I can only afford one lens, which one(s) do you suggest? TIA.
Hard question to answer without knowing budget! Voigtlander make some awesome lenses! And maybe it’s better having a couple of those over one Leica lens
If I could only use one lens then probably a 35mm, f2 or f1.4 depending on budget I think it might be the most versatile
2 lenses then I love the 28mm and 50mm combo
@@Goughie I thought you'd say the 35 1.4 and that is my lean too. But the Voigtlanders sure are nice and pack way above their price weights....very difficult. I need more videos from you.
Great description on feeling like you’re the only person in your family that can take a photo of your dog moving towards you with a Leica M. I understand this so much and the reason I got an M240 was because I love film photography and these systems bring you right back into that.
The draw towards rangefinder style is just because my nose is big and I could have my face resting on the side of the camera and I could open my left eye and see what else is coming into frame. Again, great video.
I've been using the Ms since the film days. The M240 is magical. The M10 is just as lovely. Coupled with Mandler's lenses, its magical. Have fun !
I was shooting Sony and Fuji, then I bought the Q2 mono and I truly loved the manual focusing on that camera. Now I also shoot the M11. True range finders are a joy.
When I was young and later studying, I was always short on money. I always had to rethink every buy and most of the time logically sell one part of my gear to do a logical purchase of another one. Today, I luckily have a decent job and therefore stopped selling one logic. Once I had to sell my Canon 5D classic, which haunted me so long, that later on, i had to emotionally rebuy it again. :) And even, if I have a better camera, the 5D classic. The old one is everytime in reach and still gets used a lot.
Completely understand! I actually also made a similar video "justifying" why I bought it. Like Eric said below, welcome to the M10 club and happy shooting! 🤘🏻
Glad I’m not alone! 💪🏻
Great video dude, fully behind these emotions! 👌🏼🤣 wonderful photos also!
Cheers mate!
I've been on the fence about buying an m10 for almost a year. Still haven't pulled the trigger. I think your talk about emotional purchases vs logical purchases was eye opening. It is tough because I haven't ever had my hands on one to really truly know what it's like but I have a feeling it will be everything I think it to be. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
M10 is the best value/cost from Leica M system. Amazing camera, can’t recommend enough
Used M6 for years. Actually learned photography with analog. But with prices going up I was curious of going more digital. Used the Fuji with my Leicalenses. Didn`t like using the fuji compared to the M6. A friend hat an M10 to try out, and I was hooked. Just felt excactly like the M6. Still kind of bummed on the price, but hey, resale is pretty good…
Having owned alot of camera brands over the years, I think the Fuji came closest to Leica in terms of 'having a soul'. Yes I miss (a little) the latest fastest techno whizz camera features, but the experiences generally left me cold. I now use a Leica SL601 and Q2 which are amazing to use. I recommend everyone buy a used or rent a Leica camera just to experience the 'soul' they have and how they contribute to the photography experience. Great words and great video 👍👍👍
I agree! Fujifilm gets pretty close! And for results photography are my number one choice! And I get a lot of enjoyment out of the X100V
I’ve managed to avoid using an SL as I worry it’ll empty the bank account 😂 the other issue being weight as well but the newer len choice is helping.
I agree with the trying one part! Even just holding one seems to spark interest! Thank you!!
You both a killing me! I use the XPro3, and the Xpro2 before that, for all my commercial, fashion, product, and my own personal family work and love the experience of that camera. However, I've been lusting after an M for a very long time. It's hard to justify a logical, if a bit unpractical, Fufi rangefinderesqe AND a much much more expensive M. But here I am still emotionally considering it! Thanks for sharing your experiences with the community though!
Never owned a Leica but I have owned lots of classic 35mm and Medium format film cameras. Due to the cost of Leicas (both digital and film) it's not something I'll be acquiring anytime soon. I can understand your decision though on why you bought your M10. I'll be sticking with my X-T2, X-E1 and Panasonic G9 all of which I'm really happy with. I still have 6 rolls of Kentmere Pan 100. Once they are gone I will be selling my Minolta X700 and Praktica Super TL3, the last of my film cameras. Be happy and enjoy your purchase.
I had an XT2 and loved it! Currently sell my XT4, loved both of them! Never tried an G9! It’s currently a weird time for film isn’t it!
Over the years I've had X-100s, X-Pro1,2 and 3! And I just couldn't get the images to look the way I liked! I wasn't happy with the Dynamic Range and image quality overall. They didn't excite me when I looked at them. Got my M10 around a year ago and I just love the files. I hardly have to touch in Lightroom to get the colours the way I want them, the images look gorgeous. The M10 isn't perfect though, very easy blow out the highlights, which you've mentioned. And I must say I do miss autofocus sometimes. Didn't think I would. The minimal focus distance of 0.7 metres also frustrates me from time to time. And trying to focus wide open in low light with the patch is a skill I've yet to master! LV and Focus Peaking not as good as on the Fujis either? I do love that massive OVF and the images when you get it right. Using Zone Focusing and Sunny 16 in Venice this year was amazing. I got some of my favourite shots ever. But you definitely have to work for them and it does have its limitations.
That 70cm annoys me at times too!
I don’t struggle too much with low light focus, I often find the opposite a pain, if the sun is bright and coming directly towards me
Awesome video!
That is a great justification :D
Never thought of it that way, but you are spot on. The relationship we all have with cameras and lenses is definitely this fine balance between logical and emotional decisions XD
Haha yes! And we’re all different! Some people will get more enjoyment out of being very logical with choices! Especially if you’re results driven
I’ve been shooting with an M7 for 5 years now and, after bouncing between Nikon and Sony for digital, I finally sold my A7iii to buy an M240. From the moment I picked it up, it felt familiar. Unlike the Sony, it makes me want to pick it up and use it every single day. Hard to justify the cost, yes, but I’ve yet to shoot with a digital camera that makes me enjoy the process as much as a digital M.
Though, to your point, I’m still rocking analog watches too.
Sounds very relatable! Can’t beat a good watch!
Trying so hard not to get a Leica I certainly want one but do I need one. I shoot a lot of different cameras both digital and film my current faves are the fuji Xpro 2 and a couple of 50s folders the bessa 2 and the Ikonta m. I know one day I’ll get a Leica M it’s just a matter of time I do love the simplicity of them. Right now as much as I’m enjoying the Xpro my folders are so simple and basic I get far more of a buzz when a shot works out on them. Nice vid mate cheers
I have an M4 and an M246. The M246 is as close as I get to "film" while still using digital. However, the M4 is a lot more fun to use, since there is a much more direct connection between pushing the button and taking the photo. THe M246 needs some time to start up, and when you push the shutter button the effect is not instant.
I think you are on to something when comparing the M10 experience with that of shooting film. If you refrain from constantly checking your liveview and just go out and shoot, the actual experience is very similar to analog photography. You become far more present in the situation you're trying to capture, and it is a much more rewarding experience - to the extend where you might find yourself not missing the film photography at all.. That happened to me - until I somewhat contradictory decided, that I have to own an M3. Now I have to shoot a film or two a year to justify if, but just looking at the two cameras together is all worth it ;-) The M10 is such an enjoyable camera to use. Ergonomics are great, the tactile feel ditto, and it's not just a retro look - it simply is a very functional design incorporating experience and feedback over more than a century. The functional also shows remarkeable tendency to look stunning too
Welcome to the m10 club
Thank you 💪🏻
This is almost identical to my journey with film and digital too. I have fuji x-pro 2 at the moment, which I love, but I really miss my Leica M8 and I know when I can afford it I will be going back to Leica again. The Leica M8 was far inferior to the X-pro 2, but I loved it more. For now my film photography is now BNW occasionally, with home dev and colour for birthdays !
I now have two Leicas. I got a used M10 this spring and a used M10M this week. As long as I'm extremely careful with exposure, I can get great results from both. I wouldn't want to pay much more than $5000 for either of them though. That's a fair price in my opinion. They both blow highlights while the camera is telling you that the exposure is correct. This obviously complicates the process of getting a good exposure. These cameras are for serious enthusiasts, because casual shooters wouldn't tolerate these kinds of issues in a Sony or Canon mirrorless camera.
I have to keep telling myself that I don’t need an M10M, I keep looking but I need to stop 😂
I have never watched a video that describes how I feel towards gear, ever. I have both these cameras, and the q2, and the GFX 100S. My fuji's make me money and pay the bills. The M10 makes me want to go out with my family and create something. But I sold my M240 as well, along with my Black Chrome lenses because of logic. I just sent this to my wife so she can understand me, since I can´t communicate haha.
Sounds like I’m about to get in trouble with your wife! 😂
I too use M to take pictures of my golden doddle. Still working hard get a perfect one when running up the stairs. Of course it is not logical to shoot action with a M, but I like it, and that is enough.
I would have to agree that after getting the m10, I haven’t shot on the m3. The m10 gives the same pleasure in shooting as does the m3 w/o the wait of film developing and scanning. Question what is your favorite lens to use on the m10? Thanks
That’s a tough one! Just picked up the 28mm f2.8 and that’s been awesome so far, owned the 50mm f1.4 previously
The trouble is, once you hold and shoot with a Leica, you simply can't forget the 'experience'. If you can afford it, go for it, no more excuses.😂
That happened to me. Rented one…saved my money and said I’m going to get one.
Now that my commercial photo career is over, and I’m Retiered I can shoot whatever I want. I too started out with the Fuji, X100, then XPro2, then XT3, then XPro3, until I sold all the Fuji cameras and lenses and moved over to Leica 10-R. Yeah, that is the sweet spot for me. Totally happy with this setup and won’t be looking back.
Too many people are saying M10-R… I can see this getting more expensive 😂
@@Goughie I had been shopping for the M10-P, last Sept 2021, when a local sellers listed his M10-R, and I quickly jumped on it.
@@GamachePhoto theres definitely an art to buying Leicas isn’t there, wait for the right opportunities then jump on them quickly!
I picked up an m10 in January em in anticipation of film costs rising and scarcity, everyone shoots film in LA so it’s always sold out as you can imagine. Luckily the experience is still there, even if I have to edit images again at least I still shoot it like an M and don’t end up with tons of photos to post process after each outing.
As always, great video man. Lovely work.
Cheers mate!
All your points are on the spot. To have a logical mindset involves fulfilling your emotional side too. It’s all about balance, and since most of the time rational and emotional cannot be achieved at the same time, with the same decision, we need to split this in two.
Another aspect related to buying M cameras is that if do the purchase closed to the bottom of the depreciation curve, you will not lose money when selling them. So shooting Leica might be one of the best free things in life - sounds strange, I know.
The only thing not accurate in your video was talking about automatic watches, yet showing a manual winding Speedy (a perfect one watch collection).
Keep it up! Just got yourself a new subscriber
Agree with the buying a selling! It makes it very easy to switch and experiment with different lenses
Ahah! Was hoping people wouldnt notice that with the watch analogy! 😂 I planned on showing a different watch at that point but decided against it
I did the same thing. I recently picked up a m10p. I love it compared to my mp240. its so much more like the m7 I had and sold. Also I like the phone app for the m10. The only thing I think its lacking is the battery life. The batterys on the m240 generation are amazing. I hear you on shooting film. I have found my self at a crossroads. I love shooting 35mm film but I cant justify spending 17 USD on kodak color plus 200 and then pay for processing thats for me at the cheapest is 10$ per roll. I am still shooting some medium format film though. instead of investing in 35mm film I have just been saving for different lenses I have always wanted for my M system.
In my M10 review I’ll compare to my M240! But agree with all you’ve said
Phone app is great!
Slimmer design is awesome
Smaller batteries is noticeably worse
Better white balance
I just emotionally bought an M10 monochrom… it’s not arrived yet. I know I’ll love it, but I wonder if I’ll one day wonder if I should have got an M10-R instead..!
Currently loving the M10… it has however got me looking at the M10-R
@@Goughie The R is a big step up in price though!
I can relate w/ so much stuff that you say. Feel good to know that we’re all of the same breed to a certain extent;-)
A couple years ago I got a Leica IIIf and that was a gateway Leica camera, now I picked up an M9 and love it so far. I was getting tired of all the buttons on my Sony and wanted a photo experience more like my vintage Leica or Canon F1, the M9 fits that desire perfectly. Definitely an emotional aspect to it yet there is also logic to using a simply designed camera which may get you out taking more photos.
All makes perfect sense ! Did you think about going back to M240 again - maybe a step too far having sold it ?
Considered it! Wanted to try something new, actually enjoying some of the changes! I’ll explain a little when I do the M10 review
I wanted to get a M6 but film is very expensive nowadays so I got the M10 instead and enjoyed for the same reasons as you did. Also I have the same 35mm f2 lens and speedmaster watch 😂. I understand the Apple Watch v.a. Mechanical watch comparison.
Surprised how much I geeked out on the M11 when I rented it. Buts it’s just as susceptible to digital rot as any other camera.
I use Leica lenses on an xt3. Great combo.
Also the fuji x100v checks a lot of boxes that the Leica did except for not being a full frame.
I love my X100V! It’s not going anywhere!
Welcome to the M10 club (is there an echo in here?)! I agree and have come around to feeling the same way about having a Leica M in the arsenal. It is *mostly* illogical and emotional but that’s fine!
I’m quite liking the echo! Thank you!
I recently got a Minolta CLE with a 40mm Summicron-c for travel and i was surprised at how much I enjoy using it. By all measures of logic the purchase made no sense. However, it’s absolutely a blast to use and the scans that I got back are just drawing me back to the time I spent in the sun. Now I’m bitten by the bug…
Sounds like it’s already too late to turn back!
Your watch analogy is the same as I use as when explaining my camera choice! Using an M camera is all about the feel and experience. It's hard to explain to people who aren't emotional buyers/users.
It’s so hard to describe isn’t it! But those that get it… GET IT!
Moved from pro 3 to m10 and I check every single box of yours! If the pro 4 has a real range finder mechanism (it will not), then fuji will have a long queue to the shop 😅
I am on the fence about getting a Leica M10R. I have been a digital photographer since about 2004 and have owned over 20 cameras, the latest being a Canon R5. The move to a Leica Rangfinder is a difficult one for me. 5K plus say £500 for a 35mm Zeiss, is expensive but I hope I can push the button on one soon. I also do aviation so my R5 will take care of that, the Leica is just for holidays and travel etc. But then again my iPhone 13 pro max, ticks that box.
The M is a good camera if you have a typical mirrorless camera to back it up! R5 and an M would be a good combo!
It’s definitely expensive to enter the Leica world but it all holds its value so well that if you’re savvy you can swap bodies and lenses without losing money
You are not making my decision any easier Gophie, but I just love my M6.
Ahah! I’m never letting go of my M6! Even with dodgy film prices etc.
totally feel you in this. i think about such a step as well but... well money... gibt up old cameras and habits. maybe it takes a bit longer for me
nice video, you said it perfectly!
What do you think about the difference between m240 and m10?
I sold my m262 and bought a m10 and in some weird not logical way I kind of miss my m262 and feel it was even more like a film camera.
Currently I’m preferring the M10, I’ll add a section to the M10 review that compares to the M240. The thinner body and better white balance are the two of the main reasons
@@Goughie When I’m logic I also prefer the m10 for pretty much same reasons.
I’m kind of in the same boat. I have a M240 which I really love, but just bought emotionally an M10-P because of improvements and new features. The logic tells me to sell the M240 but I can’t stop thinking will I then start to miss it. 😕
Congratulations on the M10. Today when driving I heard a programme on the return of vinyl and an interview with the owner of Rega. I think there is definitely a connection and this desire to be close to the mechanics and the process, for the experience. I also think that the quest for perfection is also an interesting one as so often perfection is boring and interesting cameras and interesting lenses can lead to a different look. For me one of the images that pleased me most was a shot taken using a Helios 44-2 on a Leica M. I worked out the camera body cost me 270 times the Len’s, but the look was great… and yes I could have no doubt achieved the same look mounting the lens on an A7.
Makes a lot sense!
It’s like Dr. Oetkers psychology built into: if you have an own task to do (manual focus) then you will appreciate more the process and results.
Sounds like something to read about this morning!
I bought a used M10-P a couple of years ago and quickly fell in love with the experience. It inspired me enough to try out this UA-cam stuff as well (one of the extra motivations to go out and do some M photography). I also had the chance to try out an M11 recently, which was quite enjoyable 😀. Feel free to have a look and tell me what you think ✌🏻
Oh nice! Actively trying to avoid the M11 at the moment as it might hurt the bank! 😂
@@Goughie I was lucky enough to use/borrow a Noctilux 0.95 on it as well. So yeah, very painful on the bank side if you get excited ;-)
I can fully understand why you got an M10. Taking pictures with a Leica is absolutely emotional and illogical at first. Buying a Leica is in principle inexpensive if you take the loss into account. Since the M10 will certainly hardly lose value in contrast to any other fuji camera.
Yes! It’s hard to enter the market but once you do it’s very stable! My M240 essentially rose in value during the 5 years I owned it! I just wish you could still buy a 50mm ASPH summilux for the same price I sold one for 3-4 years ago 😂
I would have bought a m10r reporter in a heartbeat if I could have afforded one .. even sat down with pen and paper to see what could be done .. but no way … shame.. loved that camera.
I bought the Ricoh GRII logically but I don't like using it. M240 here I come!
You put it so well . I totally get it . In my own case I fought against the logic of a full frame camera for a MFT camera . The why was simple enough ; I wanted small, light , go anywhere camera that was fun to use and provided very useable images for my photo books . The sad irony of all this logic is that I never feel the same emotional attachment to photos taken with my phone , but they are as useable and as satisfying in the books as Those taken on the camera with a great lens .
We should not over complicate why we like using a particular piece of gear and should focus more on the creative juices we have to produce a body of work that is initially gratifying to us and secondly to others .
There is no perfect camera we all know; but it does not stop us aspiring to there being one ha ha.
I enjoyed the video .
Leica look dosent exsist, but Leica is pretty good in selling emotions. Love using the m10 and m6. It’s all about the experience plus the solid Build and classic look of the M series. Just leave the logic behind you cant resist anyway …..
Ooooo the M10 is my bucket list camera. M10 and Leica 50mm f2.5 is the setup for MY photography for MYSELF. One day. One day.
Trying to decide on which 50mm! Picked up a 28mm f2.8 elmarit this week
@@Goughie if you don’t mind only have f2.5 I would HIGHLY recommend this lens. It has a sense of character to the images yet is still sharp. It’s crazy small too so keeps the kit light weight. Compact and the view finder wide open for focusing. I’d probably have another lens in my kit with a wider aperture for when I shoot at night, since I tend to do a lot of night time shooting. Or just maybe leave that for the a7iii lol.
Oh and if you need a wider aperture 50mm if recommended the voigtlander 50mm f1.5 Nokton mkii
@@Goughie also I’ve never shot that 28mm but have heard so many good things about it.
@@Holl.Mvrk. I have the voigtlander 50mm f1.5 version 1, love the lens tbh! Packs character! Just a shame about the focus ring on it. Debating an older 50mm summicron. A long time ago I had the 35mm f2.5 and I really liked that! Small and packed a punch!
@@Goughie I am a focus tab snob 🤣 so I strongly dislike when lenses lack them. So I get your gripes with the focus ring ! I know the summicron is always everyone’s go to. I wish voigtlander would make a 50mm ultron similar size to their 35mm version. Whew.
I have promised myself not to buy M11 (after in the past having two M9s and M 240) all now sold. I am happy using SL2S with SL zooms and M lenses via adapter. On a related issue I am now on my third Summilux 1.4/50 that I recently advertised for sale, but since withdraw from sale. I am still finding some reasons to get the M11, but the head is telling me NO. Who knows what the future brings, I know how you feel.
I keep looking at the M11! It’s like it’s calling my name, managed to avoid it so far!
@@Goughie I know how you feel, same here, it on-off feeling. Black one is my choice.
Where did you manage to pick one up for 3k?
eBay, it came with a whole bunch of extras, 35mm f1.4 voigtlander; and a EVF and some other bits, selling it all results in £3k for the camera
One ended on eBay at £2850 last week in my watch list, was a little beaten up though, they do appear just got to keep an eye out as they sell quick
For years I had been shooting the Leica M6 with:
90mm f/2
35mm f/1.4
21mm f/1.4
I patiently waited for Leica to build a digital rangefinder that was like my M6 film rangefinder. In 2017, I purchased a black Leica M10. However, my M10 was so defective that Leica gave me a full refund instead of repairing it.
I later purchased a used chrome Leica M10 that spent more time in the repair shop than I spent using it.
I will probably never buy another Leica digital because my experience has soured me to them.
That’s frustrating for sure!
always wanted a Leica for the manual focus, using x100F till I can afford a nice one
I still love my X100V! That’s not going anywhere
After this I will buy an M10 too
I cannot afford a Digital Leica. I have my Film Leica. Rather than huge transplant operation, I use film and bleed a little each time! Leica cameras have a strong character. If you bond, I's fun. If not use your phone! I love my M3 55 years in my use!
As much as film might be frustrating! My M6 isn’t going anywhere! :) at the right time and place there’s nothing like them!
Everything comes full circle.. Analogue/Street photographers inevitably end with Leica at some point (again & again & again)...its nature no need to explain lol
Sounds like it’s out of my control! I’ll use this excuse next time! 😂
I love it. Don’t buy a camera emotionally. I think I just did…
Uh oh! 😂
So true, i shot less films, and ended up getting m11.. emotional? I dont know but definitely, M dont always make sense
Resisting the urge to look at the M11 😂
@@Goughie no urgency 😂😂😂 thanks for the vids, love ‘em
Who needs logic when you own a M10 ? I take mine out because I love to, I take my Fuji out when I need to.
I think people with leica are too emotional, they are not thinking about practicality. Not everyone with a Leica is Henri Cartier Bresson. To be honest give Henri any camera and I’m pretty sure he will capture great pictures.
Maybe that’s another way of looking at it! Too emotional
There’s definitely a subsection of Leica users that think using it makes them him, but I’m not sure the majority do!
Agree! It’s interesting to think about what camera today the greats would use, ultimately it doesn’t matter, it was their skill and eye rather than what they chose to capture it!
Great to see so many M owners posting, I have to say that as a Fuji shooter, I'm essentially also a closet Leicaphile but I'd really like to hear from Leica owners and the so-called upkeep of the actual bodies, you hear all these tales of the rangefinder needing adjustment, sometimes even having to travel back to HQ in Germany - if true then that is as much of a concern as the steep pricing. Thoughts?
M11 appears to be a bit of a nightmare, loads of cameras shipping with issues. I’ve shot Leica rangefinders for nearly 6 years and I’ve never had to get it calibrated. I know what you mean though you do hear stories
@@Goughie Yes, it doesn't help Leica's cause that a certain very well known shooter with white hair harking from New York City on UA-cam reporting via a video that his M11 simply failed to switch on one morning, to his credit in his video he remains somewhat philosophical - It happens!
@@guillaumesandmayer7053 it’s not just them though, forums are filled with it.
You’re right though, no one makes a video saying today my camera switched on 😂
I have once sold my xpro2 after changing 11 cameras, is the only camera i regretted
I can definitely see the appeal of the X-Pro series!
Not to mention that chemicals come with a health warning....
Leica M6 plus overtime to pay for developing. Boooom!!!
Ahah! Love the hustle! I do love my M6 it’s not going anywhere! Black and white film is still pretty cheap too! 👌🏻
Not so much emotion; more like spirit. And without spirit we wouldn't make art in the first place. Without spirit we would just perform bodily functions and die. Man how boring. After all that previous painstaking logic you came down on the side of the Fujifilm and you bought a Leica anyway. Now you're free to make your art because its your free spirit making it. Don't get me wrong. Logic is not a dirty word. We still need logic. Without obeying the dogmatic rules of science we'd never find our freedom to fly to the moon or drive a car. Without obeying the dogmatic rules of physics we'd never find our freedom to be able to build a camera to make art with in the first place. And yet why fly to the moon or build a camera if not moved by the spirit. We are complicated us humans.
Spirit! That’s a very good word to explain it! A very poetic comment, thank you
Geez. Get over Portra. It's not the only relevant color film out there. Everyone seems to think they have to depend on Portra to get the results they want and need - and it's simple pretentious. Fuji sells re-labeled Gold at a retail price of much less than Portra and I managed to pick up large quantities of that emulsion fresh at a lower than retail price in bulk from a local store.
Yes, film is not cheap. But it's readily available, Portra is over-hyped.
Curious to know what colour Fujifilm you just got at a good price?
And this channel features a lot of films 😂 not just Portra… Kodak Gold / colour plus is my personal colour films of choice if it matters, thankfully gold is easier to get than most here in the U.K.
£3,000? Man that’s cheap! Try a brand new M10R Black Paint edition 😀 … I sold the Pro3 also, got the 10R. I just stopped pretending and got what I really wanted. You end up just using it like any other mirrorless camera. “Why I use Leica” is an impossible question to answer on UA-cam. I just hope you don’t get too many trolls. We shouldn’t justify why we shoot leica. If someone doesn’t get it then fine. Get a Sony or whatever. I don’t care what anyone shoots. But the Leica M10R is my only camera. I take it everywhere. I’ve never used any camera more.
Also, I’ve found the Leica community is so nice. Not the Leica collectors, but the photographers. They just love photography and they’re not obsessed with gear. I found the Fuji people to be obsessed with gear and the brand and it’s pretty toxic.
Too bad you’re not posting on Instagram, but I’ll do a follow anyway. If you see me say hello. 🍻
For me Instagram is just for that. Any of those dog photos or flowers or whatever. Daily shooting. Just share it. I don’t think the IG feed has to be all manicured and all that. Maybe one for business and another personal one. I like personal photos better than the “Instagram photo” look.
I did well didn’t I! It came with a lens and some accessories, and all said and done it ended up being about £3k
It’s got me looking and the M10R for sure! Extra megapixels would be nice! Especially with Leica glass
I don’t post images much! I should do it more! But I’m very active on stories! I end up using Insta as a great tool for chatting to like minded people!
@@Goughie Yea. That’s what I do also. I settled on the 50 summicron (v5). Amazing lens. I have the 28 Ultron II also as a companion lens. That’s a great little lens.
The 10R’s sensor is much better. Not just more megapixels, but better dynamic range, colors, no more blown highlights. It’s just a better sensor overall. The jump from the M240 to the M10 was good though.