Leica M Rangefinder Focusing Tips and Tricks

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  • Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
  • Photographer and Leica expert David Farkas explains how rangefinder focusing works on the Leica M, then shares his top seven tips and tricks for mastering the technique. With a little practice, rangefinder focusing can become second nature, allowing you to focus on the other elements of your photography.
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    0:00 - Intro
    0:22 - What is a rangefinder
    1:15 - Tip 1: Keep things clean
    2:15 - Tip 2: Use hyperfocal distance
    4:33 - Tip 3: Try zone focusing
    6:09 - Tip 4: Pick the right focal point
    7:41 - Tip 5: Estimate distance
    11:10 - Tip 6: Learn focus ring positions
    13:52 - Tip 7: Use your body to fine tune focus
    16:15 - Conclusion
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 157

  • @PaulMansfield-2023
    @PaulMansfield-2023 19 годин тому +2

    That is the most worthwhile quarter of an hour's tutorial video I have watched for a long time. All of it was useful but for me the back and forth movement to nail fine focus is going to make a big difference to the rangefinder experience for me. I must admit I have been struggling a bit but you have inspired me to go out again and use all of these techniques with more confidence. Great video, thank you for posting.

  • @tofulosophy
    @tofulosophy 20 годин тому

    This was great, David! Hope this will become a regular series. It compliments the longer, deep dive discussions on the channel.

  • @fransbaert4666
    @fransbaert4666 4 дні тому +8

    Thank you David. I enjoyed this very much. I have used a rangefinder for 38 years (CL, M5, M6...M11) and found it very reassuring that my experience as an amateur matches your professional insights. What I do as well with tip #7 with the M11, is that I take pictures while moving forward and backward like that - as a sort of insurance policy - one of them will definitely be perfect in focus.

    • @jlwilliams
      @jlwilliams 4 дні тому +1

      Nice job! I'm definitely bookmarking this to help orient rangefinder-camera newcomers. (I know this is a Leica channel, but most of these tips will work just as well when using a Minolta CLE, a Bessa, or a Pixii…)
      Here's my own mini-tip for subjects with repeating patterns, such as the wall example: try holding the camera at a 45-degree angle for focusing. Sometimes this makes it easier to pick up a “focusable” feature on the subject…

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  3 дні тому

      Thanks so much!

  • @goarmymp1
    @goarmymp1 4 дні тому +5

    One of the best tutorial videos for the M cameras Very easy to understand and learn from

  • @GaryLangEngr
    @GaryLangEngr 4 дні тому +4

    1,000,000 UA-cam videos on this topic covered in one, clear video

  • @street4fips
    @street4fips День тому

    A nice summary indeed!
    The other day, I realized that the minimum focus distance of 0.7 m is a great distance for taking selfie, so it's another way how to look at it :)

  • @ziggy149
    @ziggy149 2 дні тому

    12:45 - Bambi's friends playing tag in the background. Found that rather amusing. And what a nice peek at how beautiful it is where you guys live.

  • @snarkytadpole4799
    @snarkytadpole4799 4 дні тому +3

    Excellent video as always. As much as I love the long ones I think these short, to the point, single subject videos are the most useful. Let's see more!

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 дні тому

      Great feedback. Any topics you'd like us to cover in the future?

  • @carlseibert9015
    @carlseibert9015 4 дні тому +2

    Say the distance to yourself in your head. That keeps the distance estimation separate from the tab position, which varies lens to lens and makes it easier to learn and remember. Best video on this subject I've ever seen. Way to go David.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  3 дні тому

      Good tip and thanks for the feedback!

  • @DrScottMcDonald
    @DrScottMcDonald День тому

    Great all-in-one lesson David! I've been using the M beginning with the M9 and now the M10, for me, I think the most valuable tip you've offered that was the greatest benefit to me was the rocking focus. Brilliant! I was guilty of trying to "fine-tune" the focus using the finger tab, but now I know better! I'll buy you a coffee the next time you're in Vietnam! Thank you David! As Josh said to you when reviewing my gear in the Show Us Your Kit episode last year, no, I do not have a farm! Hahaha! Cheers, Scott

  • @MGNphotography
    @MGNphotography 4 дні тому +1

    Another fabulous RDF video with useful tips even veteran rangefinder fans can benefit from. Many thanks, David!

  • @TomokoMurakami
    @TomokoMurakami 3 дні тому +1

    This instruction is EXACTLY what I have been searching for. Thank you, David.

  • @healinginfluence
    @healinginfluence 4 дні тому +1

    Best tutorial I have seen. Being able to focus quickly is what keeps me from purchasing an M.

  • @WinfriedHeyland
    @WinfriedHeyland 4 дні тому +1

    Excellent and I want to add one more item; when focussing, always start from one end - preferably from infinity. It avoids the back and forth of turning the ring.

  • @patrickaltman5451
    @patrickaltman5451 3 дні тому

    Thanks David . You are a great pedagog. When the subject is moving, and to get the perfect focus is not so easy , I close a bit the aperture to get a little more depth of field and have a kind of automatic correction of the lack of perfect focusing with the range finder. It is "zone focusing" but in a particular situation.

  • @johndandrea3194
    @johndandrea3194 День тому

    Excellent tips for a more efficient and effective rangefinder experience..thanks!

  • @john_murch
    @john_murch 4 дні тому +2

    Excellent tutorial on rangefinder focusing David. I use all of these but thanks for your reminder, I need to practice on the last one, rocking the body back and forth slightly for fine focusing with portraits. Cheers!

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  3 дні тому

      Really makes a big difference, especially for portraits!

  • @user-mb4qx2xe1g
    @user-mb4qx2xe1g 3 дні тому

    Perfect timing. today I bought my m6. All thumbs up.

  • @user-nj4vn2jj5g
    @user-nj4vn2jj5g 19 годин тому

    Now that was a very useful video. Well done.

  • @DarrenLoveland
    @DarrenLoveland 10 годин тому

    Great work as always!

  • @itsahoax
    @itsahoax 2 дні тому

    many thanks, clear and concise tutorial

  • @xiiiconcepts
    @xiiiconcepts 4 дні тому +1

    Great content David! As always, your knowledge and wisdom is something of legend to the Leica community. Would love to see more content like this of you, out and about doing what you do. Thank you!

  • @robertkerner4833
    @robertkerner4833 3 дні тому

    Very nicely done, compiling many useful tips in one place. Practice practice practice.

  • @kbalch
    @kbalch 4 дні тому +1

    Nicely done, David. That's going to help a lot of rangefinder newbies. It's good to have some of the foundation knowledge in one place. Being able to break down techniques that we've taken for granted for decades into such easy-to-understand bites is a gift. Well done!

  • @exalbino
    @exalbino 4 дні тому +1

    Great video David! Very informative and concise. More of this please!

  • @constantinestewart7416
    @constantinestewart7416 День тому

    Great video and advice. Thanks so much.

  • @bryanlovephotography
    @bryanlovephotography 4 дні тому +1

    Thank you so much for doing this! I usually fall back onto the Visoflex because I struggle with the rangefinder from time to time. Great content as always!

  • @CrueLoaf
    @CrueLoaf 4 дні тому +1

    Great video thank you.
    I’m also looking for tips on metering. Something that always trips me up with my M10-P.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  3 дні тому +1

      Thanks for the suggestion. Will add it to the list.

  • @BenjaminGauthey
    @BenjaminGauthey День тому

    Great video. Thanks for sharing

  • @srkgv
    @srkgv 4 дні тому

    Very well made. Been shooting rangefinder cameras for more than 10 years, yet I still learned from this.

  • @jankis143
    @jankis143 4 дні тому

    Thank you David that was wonderful !!!!

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 дні тому

      You're very welcome. Hope it helped.

  • @HN-sk2lr
    @HN-sk2lr 4 дні тому +2

    Great review, I'm in love with my leica m11 monochrom and sl3 can't be happier ❤

  • @johnfalloon596
    @johnfalloon596 4 дні тому

    Wonderful video David - watch you guys all the time

  • @user-bk5zl8ju3u
    @user-bk5zl8ju3u 4 дні тому

    Nice job David. Keep the tutorials coming!

  • @jaycochran2983
    @jaycochran2983 4 дні тому

    Thanks for this great video David!

  • @amitavachatterjee4006
    @amitavachatterjee4006 4 дні тому

    Great refresher of the basics. Well done.

  • @webersteve1547
    @webersteve1547 3 дні тому

    Don't forget to choose the correct diopter for the viewfinder. This can be a gamechanger

  • @jasonf3959
    @jasonf3959 4 дні тому

    These are great advice. I had to learn these tips the hard way through lots of trial and many errors over many decades. You did it in 17 minutes. Well done.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  3 дні тому +1

      Very kind of you. I'm in the same boat. Been learning rangefinder photography for over 20 years and had to do it by trial and error. Hopefully, this will help those just discovering the Leica M to shortcut the process a little bit.

  • @jayocotube6483
    @jayocotube6483 4 дні тому

    Nice job, David! Thank you.

  • @HRWG99
    @HRWG99 4 дні тому

    Excellent video for a new m owner

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  3 дні тому

      Hopefully, this will help people on their Leica M journey.

  • @supremewaso
    @supremewaso 4 дні тому

    really impressive, thank you for the sharing!

  • @miguelolea8942
    @miguelolea8942 4 дні тому

    world class video and communication, you are a master David

  • @kieulannguyen1193
    @kieulannguyen1193 4 дні тому

    Thank you so much for all the tips. ❤❤❤

  • @sc1
    @sc1 5 днів тому

    Thank you. Well put together.

  • @richa2495
    @richa2495 4 дні тому

    Thank you! I’m about 9 months in with the m10 and I’ve been working at it. The estimating the distance before focusing is what I think I was missing. Thank you! I really like rangefinder photography allot. I’m shooting the 35mm focal length 100% for probably at least 6 more month before adding a 50mm. I love the Leica glass. Appreciate you making this video.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  3 дні тому

      So glad it was helpful. Stick with it and you'll be a amazed at how the rangefinder starts to become second nature. And kudos to you for really learning that 35 before moving on to other focal lengths. I did the exact same thing when I first started shooting all those years ago!

  • @212frankny
    @212frankny 4 дні тому

    Thank you David this was very useful. Great video. Practice is the best training. 🤩

  • @daviddodier8845
    @daviddodier8845 4 дні тому

    These are fantastic thank you! Man I wish I didn’t have to figure all this out on my own years ago! This will surely be a huge benefit to anyone new to the rangefinder experience. Nice video

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 дні тому

      That's my hope. When I started out with Leica over 20 years ago, I also wish there was someone who could have just explained everything upfront, in a straightforward way. That has been a driving force in all of our content since we started RDF.

  • @lottic
    @lottic 5 днів тому +1

    Loved the video, and the bump on the front of that FLE.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 дні тому +2

      Hey, you gotta get out there and use the gear!

  • @Docmakesfotos
    @Docmakesfotos 4 дні тому

    Excellent video!

  • @swedesrus25
    @swedesrus25 4 дні тому

    Well done!

  • @forsterdaniel
    @forsterdaniel 4 дні тому

    Simply brillant, thank you very much

  • @makmak69L7
    @makmak69L7 4 дні тому

    Great Video no doubt. Many thanks for the useful tips.

  • @albrechtn
    @albrechtn 4 дні тому

    great video

  • @tonyvokey7607
    @tonyvokey7607 4 дні тому

    Thanks David, that was very well done as usual. I wish I was able to find something like this to watch when I bought my first M camera.

  • @ldbass62
    @ldbass62 4 дні тому

    Very informative!

  • @susanfleck4166
    @susanfleck4166 4 дні тому

    Thanks! Succinct, informative, and a good reminder of the best and easiest ways to maximize the benefits of. Rangefinder.

  • @JohnnyAmiri
    @JohnnyAmiri 4 дні тому

    Such a great video. The arms-length=0.7m point is 🤯 and pre-focusing using estimated distance is a great tip. I put both of these tips to use today after watching the video and already feel faster at focusing. Thanks for the great content as always

  • @vinylisland6386
    @vinylisland6386 4 дні тому

    Rocking back forward is when you hit the sweet spot. Clarity and common sense personified. A model of how it should be done.

  • @barrychattillion1705
    @barrychattillion1705 3 дні тому

    Thanks

  • @mwales2112
    @mwales2112 4 дні тому

    Very nice. Thank you

  • @payperview714
    @payperview714 4 дні тому +1

    I shoot street with 28mm most of the time. The first thing I do every day I'm out is walk up to a street sign or other pole, estimate 6 feet, set and then hold to my eye..I shoot zone focus without holding the camera to my eye about 90% of the time, so i then adjust for the distance of the camera being a little closer to the subject.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 дні тому +1

      That's what I'm talking about!

  • @bennyb865
    @bennyb865 4 дні тому +2

    This video is so good it should be a charged lesson. Just got my Leica M and been practicing the last 8 hours and you've made my life so much easier. THANK YOU.

  • @kontrast9931
    @kontrast9931 5 днів тому

    thank you..

  • @RichardPilon
    @RichardPilon 3 дні тому

    Great video. Thanks for all the tips. Does your comment of never shooting at F16 also apply to film cameras? I didn’t quite get that one.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  2 дні тому +1

      You could probably get away with f/16 on film. On high resolution digital sensors, as the pixels get smaller and smaller, you can't stop down as much without suffering from diffraction.

  • @ernie61kim
    @ernie61kim 4 дні тому

    with the range finder patch approaches to match, start to squeeze the shutter. repeat practice then you can synchronize the focusing and releasing shutter - this saves a split of second that is crucial taking moving subject.

  • @1946gsp
    @1946gsp 4 дні тому

    A nice, comprehensive set of helpful hints. Maybe next time add a short view of the lens barrel with the distance scale explained? And how about giving distances in meters and feet for those of us who use the latter? Thanks for your post!

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  3 дні тому

      Yeah, during editing, I had wished that I covered the depth of field scale a little more. Hopefully, the visual explanation of hyperfocal and zone focusing still made sense. As to the feet/meters, I did use both several times, maybe not every time talking about distance.

  • @johnchan7544
    @johnchan7544 4 дні тому

    David, thank you for this tutorial. Hope to see one on improving composition. Btw, is there a big jump in going from M10 to M11P? Would you sell your M9P plus M10 for M11P if u were thinking of upgrading to M11P?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  3 дні тому

      Composition is big topic! Will give that some thought.
      Yes, there is a big jump from the M10 to M11-P. I'd suggest you check out my full M11 review, where I run down every improvement from the M10 to the M11: rdf.to/M11-Review
      As to your specific question, yes, I'd definitely make that trade. I know the M9-P has a cult following right now, but the M11-P is just a superior camera in every possible way, both to the M9-P and the M10. From the 15+ stops of dynamic range to the insane resolution and vastly better low light performance to the gorgeous EVF, live view metering and in-camera USB charging, the M11 is the way to go.

    • @johnchan7544
      @johnchan7544 3 дні тому

      @@RedDotForum , thanks so much for your reply and keep up the great content. Look forward to your next Leica video..

  • @gurugamer8632
    @gurugamer8632 4 дні тому

    Hi David can you do video on Hasselblad X2D and 38mm and 90mm

  • @wilfredshum3703
    @wilfredshum3703 5 днів тому

    Any devices you can recommend to assist focusing under low-lighting situations?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 дні тому

      The M viewfinder is extremely bright. Best tip is the first one I covered in the video. A clean viewfinder and clean rangefinder window makes all the difference especially in low light situations.

  • @gewglesux
    @gewglesux 4 дні тому +1

    This was pretty good... i still think i'm doing it wrong though.. Can i use the same technique for my MP and Film?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 дні тому

      Definitely. Rangefinder techniques are the same for film and digital.

    • @mgscheue
      @mgscheue 4 дні тому

      Yes!

    • @gewglesux
      @gewglesux 4 дні тому +1

      @@mgscheue Thank you very much! After spending what we all do for our Leicas... you'd think i'd know this already.

    • @mgscheue
      @mgscheue 4 дні тому

      @@gewglesuxWe are all learning. Keeps it fun!

    • @gewglesux
      @gewglesux 4 дні тому

      @@mgscheue Agreed.

  • @Boxer1250RT
    @Boxer1250RT 4 дні тому

    I'll give you the number 1 tip for best way to manual focusing Leica M. If you are using Glasses, get a Leica Correction Lens. Go to a Leica store and try what works best for you. Or, you just get rid of the M and get a Q :) I never looked back after I switched to Q. Great image quality with the 28mm Summilux plus the Macro capability.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  3 дні тому +2

      Definitely a good tip on the diopter. Just remember that the M viewfinder has a projected distance of 2m / 6ft so go to your optometrist and get a correction value for that distance. Then subtract the standard built-in -0.5 correction to determine which diopter you need. And hey, the Q is awesome, especially if you like the 28mm focal length. It can truly be a one camera solution.

    • @RealCelticGamer
      @RealCelticGamer 2 дні тому

      ​@@RedDotForumWhenever I get a new spectacle prescription, I take that along to my Leica dealer and they ensure I have the correct correction lens. Thankfully I only have to buy a new one every 2-4 years.

  • @carlosmcse
    @carlosmcse 3 дні тому

    I go to infinity automatically every time after taking a photo. So i only move the focus to the left.

  • @jpm5205
    @jpm5205 5 днів тому +2

    No EVFs please in the M12.

    • @gewglesux
      @gewglesux 4 дні тому

      You like the screen in the rear?

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 дні тому +2

      Leica has stated that an M camera isn't an M camera without the rangefinder! The option to add an EVF is always welcome though, especially if you want to use wider and longer focal lengths.

    • @jpm5205
      @jpm5205 4 дні тому +1

      @@RedDotForum Visoflex3 is fine, but no built-in EVF. The engineering compromises to put it in would not be worth it. Make a smaller SL or a interchangeable-lens Q, but a built-in EVF doesn't make sense.

    • @gewglesux
      @gewglesux 4 дні тому

      I needed to understand the difference between the OVF/EVF now i'm clear.

  • @thomaschamberlin2485
    @thomaschamberlin2485 День тому

    For estmating the middle distances I imagine a person laying down and call that six feet. Then I stack laying down persons.

  • @devroombagchus7460
    @devroombagchus7460 4 дні тому

    Why compare depth of field of a 50mm to 21mm? How many people have a 21mm as a standard lens. A 28 or 35 would have been fine for illustration.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 дні тому

      Even a 35mm is challenging for hyperfocal. A 28 would have been ideal for demonstrating zone focusing (as I mentioned in the video), but I don't have one in my regular kit.

  • @GB-yv3uv
    @GB-yv3uv 4 дні тому

    I think a hybrid EVF is coming and will be welcome in an M12 - I have an M11 and M11 mono and do love it, but I think an EVE can help shave focus time and ensure greater accuracy... not sure what this will do to battery life!

  • @animegeek6118
    @animegeek6118 4 дні тому

    Your explanation makes me think using a rangefinder would be easier to nail my focus. Unless I’m misunderstanding something.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 дні тому

      That's the idea, since rangefinder focusing is more objective than subjective. It either matches up or it doesn't.

  • @matthewmachanda9390
    @matthewmachanda9390 4 дні тому

    God bless you hahah

  • @davidcampbell1963
    @davidcampbell1963 4 дні тому

    Make sure that Pat Kay watches this video

  • @beyourself9162
    @beyourself9162 9 годин тому

    I didn’t knew that Leica didn’t really change this technique since the M ones after WW2. The Fuji solution to this problem is much more elegant, more intelligent… and more 2024….😮

  • @directedbydon
    @directedbydon 4 дні тому

    This is great, but a ton of people will likely be using liveview if they have an m11 🤣

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  3 дні тому

      Nothing wrong with live view. I often use my M11 with the EVF. But even then, the same tips on rangefinder focus like estimating distance, focus tab position, pre-focusing, and leaning in/out also speed up focus using live view.

    • @directedbydon
      @directedbydon 3 дні тому

      @@RedDotForum I agree, it's great practice!

  • @yaroslavbozhkov1567
    @yaroslavbozhkov1567 4 дні тому

    Thank you, it was fun and interesting. You forgot about measuring distance in steps. Clients are simply crazy about this technology. You just need to go funny. Seriously speaking, tricks can only be done with wide-angle lenses. In all other cases, this is work with a patch.

    • @RedDotForum
      @RedDotForum  4 дні тому +1

      While hyperfocal and zone focusing are really only useful on 28mm and wider, a lot of the other techniques are helpful for any focal length. In fact, I use these all time with my standard 35 and 50mm lenses.

    • @yaroslavbozhkov1567
      @yaroslavbozhkov1567 3 дні тому

      @@RedDotForum thanks for answer. I think 35mm lenses are fairly easy to use. 50mm and above require exceptional precision.

  • @chefjaap1
    @chefjaap1 4 дні тому

    Manual focus is so much better with a mirror less camera and so much more fun too 😂

  • @emilhach6264
    @emilhach6264 3 дні тому

    There's a much, much better way to focus using Leica lenses. As long as they don't contain moving elements, I just mount them on the TZM-02 on my Z8 and press the shutter button. Focus is done.