Porsche 718 Boxster S versus Lotus Elise Cup 250 | Review | two great sports cars driven | Autocar
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- The Porsche 718 Boxster and the Lotus Elise are two of the finest sports cars on the road. Here we test their latest range-topping versions against each other: the Porsche 718 Boxster S takes on the Lotus Elise Cup 250 on some of Britain’s greatest roads. Subscribe to Autocar now smarturl.it/autocar
Will our review show that the Lotus Elise has the lightweight charm and interaction to see off its German rival? Or will the Porsche 718 Boxster, which now has a four-cylinder turbocharged engine, impress with its extra power and superior refinement?
Would you go for the Elise or the 718?
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The Lotus is miles ahead of the Boxster when it comes to the actual driving experience. Yes you can use an Elise every day, they aren't uncomfortable like most people expect. The suspension is smoother than most hot hatches!
The Lotus any day of the week. Weight is real driver's number one foe!!!
Too right 👍
Never before has a Lotus been so tempting to a potential Boxster buyer, hope Lotus make the most of Porsche's decision to go with the 4 pot turbo
yeah if lotus makes a inline 4 high reeving na engine like say a 2.5 liter 9000 rpm at 300hp and maintain its current weight im sure they will sell by the bucket load it should be easier for lotus to get away with emission with that kind of setup since there so light so many people have mod there lotus with he k20 engine imagine lotus making it them self
I've test driven both back to back recently; the Boxster is much easier to live with and less stressful in terms of worrying about scratching the bumper, but the Lotus beats the Porsche any day as a sports car
If you have several cars already and looking for a spicy roadster, get the Lotus. If you are like most of the rest of the world who owns 1 car or none, get the Porsche.
But the Porsche is so.....so...... gay
Honfy Lam What Porsche owner (of a new car) owns only one car?
I would take an everyday normal car + a lotus
if you only have one car your probally wouldent be buying a 2 door roadster yes the porsches is more practicle but its still a an impracticle sports car if it was my money i would go lotus screaw comfort and practicality im all in on the driving factor i can use a normal car on the dd.
I wonder how many people here have ever driven a porsche and a lotus. I had an Elise before and changed it to an Exige. According driving fun there are very less cars that can compare to a lotus. if you want an every day car, then there are much cheaper options than a porsche. I keep my lotus when I want to drive. I use my other car for the boring things.
I don't remember the last time I watched a video about two nice cars and didn't learn anything interesting about them. Now I have today to remember...
Booooooooo!!!!!! Title says Porsche 718 Boxster S versus Lotus Elise Cup 250, and you had the absolute audacity to only compare how fast the roof comes off. Literally zero performance comparisons. This is quite disappointing @autocar +autocar.
I daily drive my 2001 Elise S2 and my 2013 Elise S3. Just not in winter because of salt. (I just love them too much) I have 2 because I wanted to replace my S2 with something calmer. (S2 is tuned and loud) I love them both too much now to let go of the S2. Both are faultless and have been for many years. Hardly any maintenance costs or depreciation.
I drive my S2 in winter as well. Just got to protect the suspension against the salt with something (like ACF50). That's the only real weakness.
Every convertible should have a top identical to the MX5
another great review, Matt
I demand a track battle
The *_additional_* carbon aero pack doesn't put the weight down, it increases it. A car without aero kit at all is lighter !
In this case the alternative is plastic aero kit. So carbonfibre one actually does decrease weight (mainly through making the owner's wallet lighter), but not by much
Dmitry L Okay, thanks for the clarification :)
Expected a track test , there is no other point in comparing these 2 otherwise
God that rear diffuser is PROPER
Anyone know which road this is on?
anyone know the name of the song at the end of the vid? the whistling song. .
242 Laps on the Ring with my 718 Boxster S.
no problems, 8:29 fastest lap.
I listen to a variety of music, and was very comfortable, and reached 246 kmph. So no I did not push the car.
You were lucky with the weather, up there on the Snake Pass.
love the way you show your patriotism. Thank you
I really wish I'd kept my S1 Elise 111S :(
Did you guys edit this video while in the car? Weird cuts and jumps all over the whole thing.
I can see you entering the Porsche finding yourself full of pillows! lol!
Lotus looks better to my eyes. But hold on when it started it weighed in at about 750kgs. Now it's creeping up to 1000.
Which is more reliable?
I actually like the look of the Lotus, it reminds me of the toy peddle cars of my childhood.
I cant belive that these two cars are the same price!. That Lotus should be a £30K car max
I have a 2003 s2 elise, is the same of The s1 but with the newest look, the best 👍
Great cars, both these 2. Lovely roads too - Buttertubs pass?
Perhaps not - Nether North Grain appears to be in the Peak District.
Snake Pass, Bamford to Glossop, complete and utter peach of a track. Oops! Road.
Can we get more of these views (1:50), i think it's more interesting seeing what is happening on the road, how the car handles, rather than just watching the guy talk.
These two cars will not be cross-shopped ;)
im cross shopping the elise and boxster s 981 pdk.. maybe the only person in the world lol
I cross shopped for years...then bought a Cayman.
We did.... chose a Exige 380 sport however
How did Lotus manage to much the last generation Elise worse looking than the S2 ? If it ain't broke...
4:57 are they driving on the wrong side of the road?
No.
I think comparing alfa 4c to lotus Elise makes more sense
I bet the Lotus feel like a beer can compared to the Porsche
The Lotus logo is already ruined on the steering wheel lol
0ttoman But the powertrain will be better no doubt.
Or a petrolheads car vs a hairdressers car
I bet the Porsche feels like a man's butt ...to another man.
the correct answer is neither, buy a cayman it is now cheaper than the boxter and more rigid
I want an elise with interior of the porsche
One day lotus will get off their ass and do it...maybe
I will choose Lotus between these two. I know the porsche got better hoursepower, mote comfortable seat, adjustable steering wheel, better 60mph time. But it has one drawback : its not a Lotus !
Well said
The most fun I've had behind the wheel was in an S260... I was laughed at in a Walmart parking lot in a Boxter S. *wipes hands*
The last gen boxster GTS was and still is an epic car...
Elise for a weekend car, Boxster for the daily driver.
One thing every Porsche owner knows: every car ever made by anyone anywhere will out run their Porsche! Of course almost none of them will. Other day I’m out in my Box and a guy in a black 350z with a wing-yes a wing, and a nice loud exhaust pulls on to the highway spots me an boom he’s on my bumper. Dropped it from 6th to 4th about 5000rpm. Hit 128 when traffic forced me to slow. And he either exited, hid behind a truck, or ran off the road somewhere.
I get that the Lotus is the more focused sports car, but the reality is that it is only really enjoyed at certain times of the year, in certain weathers and on certain roads. The Porsche on the other hand, though be a bit less focused, can be enjoyed pretty much throughout the year and will be a lot more refined and comfortable too, not to mention far better built. The Lotus is a part-time sports car, the Porsche is a full-time sports car.
Mark B You've obviously never driven one then and instead of making a smart statement you said something stupid because you favor the Lotus.
Mark B You've obviously never driven one then and instead of making a smart statement you said something stupid because you favor the Lotus.
Mark B Sure maybe he was wrong with his statement but why didn't you just say that in the first place?He also means luggage space so how much can you fit in your Lotus?(NOT saying it's not much just want to know.)
The Elise is a joy to drive at any time of year. Obviously better if it is dry so you can get the roof off of course.
I think you have it backwards. The Lotus is a full time sports car. The Porsche is a part time sports car, part time commuter car and part time errand car.
Anybody that would opt for a Lotus over the Porsche for daily driving has never owned one. I tried to drive my '05 Elise as often as possible for nearly 3 years but it leaked in the cabin and trunk on rainy days, the windscreen would fog over if the windows were rolled up, the suspension was back breaking (I had the track pack) and low-speed maneuvering was a chore with unassisted steering. Maintenance costs were ok, at best. It was a blast for occasional sunny day, smooth road driving or on the track but that's about it.
I have daily driven my S2 and S3 Exige without any complaints. Sure there are a few issues of rocking seats and clutch chatter which was fixed quickly, but you will only have problems with the rigidity of the car if you're a complete softie.
Buddy, an Exige and an Elise are two different animals. The hardtop roof design and sealed off trunk in the rear takes care of most of the complaints I had with the Elise. As for your rigidity statement, that's a personal preference and your opinion is not shared by everybody.
Had my first two Elises as only cars. Perfectly ok as an everyday drive so long as comfort is not your overriding priority.
While it may be a great track toy, the Lotus is not very good for long cruises or as a daily driver. So it's more of a "second car" option. The Porsche is much more versatile in this regard.
That's where you are wrong as most Lotus owners drive their cars everyday. The people who buys Lotuses are real driving enthusiasts and the things people mention as negative factors about the Lotuses like the lack go luxury, really means nothing to Lotus owners.
This is a very wrong statement and clearly you are simply repeating it from being read or heard somewhere. Lotus cars, especially the newer ones, are as reliable as any other car.
Who said something about reliability?
Isnt lotus is a malaysian car brand? owned by Proton car company?
So a Mazda MX5 is a better car than the Porsche just because you can open the roof with one hand in, what, 4 seconds? Judging the Elise from roof practicality is like judging a super model by her math skills. Total nonsense.
It is nice to be light on your feet. It is not nice to be snappy.
I get the feeling the Lotus is exactly that. grips...grips...Grips... CRASHED.
The trick for me is agile car with friendly set of tyres. Kind of like the BRZ-Toyota route.
Everybody mocks them for having the same tyre with the Prius, but there is good reason for that.
Always good to know when it starts to go and to have some leeway. The gt86 really needs that torque hole fix. Then it would have more linear power delivery imo and people wouldn't complain so much :)
The S1 Elise was like that, the later ones not so much.
I went from a gt86 to an S2 Elise and where the gt86 would lose grip the Elise just sticks. It takes a lot of effort to make it slide. It also has loads more power low down the revs.
@@BlatentlyFakeName But what happens after it starts to slide? What happens in the rain?
You don't be silly enough to get it in to a slide, or know how to recover it. They aren't forgiving cars to drive fast but at normal speed it's very stable.
Track battle and coparison whit alfa 4c
when you see them side by side, I noticed that the Porsche looks awesome and the Lotus a bit 'kitcarish'. I would go for the German.....
Although this vid wasn't a direct head to head, but still, Lotus get such a hard time being compared to VASTLY more expensive cars constantly. Accordingly in the Australian market (where I am), that Boxter is about 35% (or about $40,000) more expensive. It always seems Porsche gets the higher cost car to compete. Check all the professional comparisons between a Porsche and Lotus on youtube. Even the recent Evora 400 gets essentially shunned against a Cayman GT4, even though here accordingly the GT4 costs more to buy, theoretically costs more to run, and is theoretically slower too
The best test is with Alfa Romeo 4C, why is missing here?
If it were February I’d pick the suv.
Ahh... Snake Pass!!! 😍😍😍
Just sold Exige S. Fabby car. Totally non useable than as a toy. No point comparing these cars
Lotus
If you want a taxi, you buy the Porsche. If you want a sports car, you buy the Lotus.
The lotus is a proper dirvers car. You can keep your porsche.
Well said! Go the dirvers!
+Steven Farrington Everybody makes mistakes
The lotus is alot less of car more of a track cart relative to the porsche. It may feel more raw and enjoyable at times but i can get that feel out of a 99 modified civic lol. Could modify it to be equally as fast, raw and well interiors would be comparable then lol
Thanks...I will....lol
The Porsche looks like a 2002 Toyota MR2.
The 2002 MR2 was copied from the Boxster, the Boxster was in production first.
Was it ? Where's your source for this ?
The first Boxster was carry-over 911 front end. i.e. a 2002 (well, '99) MR2 doesn't look like a 2002 Boxster.
@Chicha 17 boxster isn't a supercar. Are you mad? The 911 isnt a supercar either. They're just sports cars. The 918 spyder is a supercar.
The Porsche makes max power at 3500rpm?! Ummm no.
Hey mate.. come on...
U just cant compare both cars directly as its totally different class & different market target...
Its like u comparing pizza & sushi... both are food but most of the people in the world love pizza or atleast would eat it but not like sushi, not everyone love or wouldnt try to eat the shashimi sushi (raw salmon)..
That boxster looks gorgeous, but the engine messed it up..
+swansea007791 i have a 2.5 boxster and its pretty slow but the sound more than makes up for it. Im sure this new one is brilliant but the sound is just not good at all
Porsche of course. Lotus is a track toy only really. Usually never complain about this, but the camera work in this video seems a bit off. C'mon autocar!!!
Drawbacks of of Lotus. Toyota engine. So the engine may seem great. However, may as well have a nice Honda lump with true Vtec. Porsche Boxster is madw more for American housewives to put one of them tiny little dogs in a Louis Vuitton bag and floss up and down Hollywood Boulevard. I shall always prefer a S2000 over any Boxster. However, the s2000 has been off the scene for 9 years already. The Boxster is just too boring these days and has no real fun. Sadly all new cars have no soul. They're all like white household goods. Kitted up with tech you wont need. Aside from a nice stereo, air con, heater and elec windows. What else do you actually need? Ok... maybe a use or cigarette socket which should come as standard these days.
But on a modern day sports vehicle with 2 doors, you dont need the elec windows so much. I'd rather a brake bias switch.
👍 John m
Roof down comparisons are the least interesting test ever. I don't know why reviewers insist on doing them.
The one is a real sports car, the other is an open top Golf GTI...
We'll be promotin, they're hatin...
As a MASSIVE Porsche fan, I would not buy the 718 Boxster/Cayman, especially if you can pick up a used 981 that's a year old or less for cheaper. The 718 looks uglier, sounds worse, and just is not exciting enough compared to the howling, sonorous engine in even the base 981.
Also a Porsche guy and put off buying a 981 to wait for this car. On my test drive I returned early to the showroom in disgust. The engine is awful, sounds like a 60s Beetle not a Subaru. I'm now in the market for a used 981.
If you want the best drivers car...😎
parade detect literature ourselves.
921 kg is a fat Elise, don't think otherwise.
subaru outback 2017
I find these comparisons stupid. I have been in both and the lotus is almost un drivable its so small inside. I am quite tall but I literally couldnt get out of the thing. I wouldnt drive one if I had it given.....never. Porsche everytime.
This is truly pointless comparison.
Go for L O T U S
Boring.
They need to go electric...
Five years from now when the Lotus is falling apart and you try to sell it and see the terrible resale value, and the fact that the limited market for the hard core sports car is almost zero, you will know why the other guy bought the Porsche.
racekar80 in the US Elise values are going up
Lol. My Elise is 14 years old, used daily and not fallen apart yet.
The Lotuses also hold their value better than most other cars. When this Boxster is worth 6k this Lotus will still have 60% of it's value or more...
The Lotus is the ugliest noddy Mr Bean sports car Ive ever seen
Is cute
Give me Porsche anyday
+Alfa Won there is too many of them on the roads 😔
Well thats why drive an Alfa
Says the guy with a picture of a car with a triangle for a grille.
The lotus looks cheap and boring. The porsche boxster looks and drives amazing. It will make you smile...
I have driven both. That is why i purchase a boxster s
cars are not even close to comparable, nothing can be compared to a Lotus.
I wonder how many people here have ever driven a porsche and a lotus. I had an Elise before and changed it to an Exige. According driving fun there are very less cars that can compare to a lotus. if you want an every day car, then there are much cheaper options than a porsche. I keep my lotus when I want to drive. I use my other car for the boring things.
I have. Test drive the Cayman S after test driving a supercharged Elise......... yawn.
I have, owned an elise for 5 years as a daily. Now into my 3rd year with a cayman s as a daily. My next car is probably going to be an Evora S. Need i say more.
I have an Elise S2 K-series and an Elise S3. They are both daily drivers. Just in winter I keep them away from salt. Not because I need but because I care for them. My S2 has the big boot for long travels. My S3 is more calm and behaved. I dread the day I will have to miss them due to electrification.