Lotus Elise Cup 250 vs Exige 350 - On Track at Goodwood

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  • Опубліковано 2 сер 2019
  • Bell & Colvill invited me to join them on one of their exclusive track days. Open to anyone, their days are low numbers, high quality events with great crowds and a good atmosphere. I'd never been to Goodwood before and so I was delighted that on my first ever visit I could go out on track in not just one, but two amazing Lotus cars.
    With the Elise Cup 250 costing the same as a very lightly used Exige 350, is there a reason to go for the smaller car - or is bigger really better even in Lotus land? Join me and find out.
    Skip to 8 minutes in for driving impressions.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 178

  • @nandyvara
    @nandyvara 4 роки тому +115

    Thanks for continuing to be the best unpaid lotus ambassador - I have an Elise because of your videos

  • @robertl2856
    @robertl2856 4 роки тому +15

    3 years on...and getting better and better, thanks

  • @timjacobs8255
    @timjacobs8255 4 роки тому +33

    I love your videos and we've talked on thelotusforums before but don't completely agree on the Cup 250. I honestly think the cup 250 is quite different compared to the Exige (sport). The amount of grip the Cup 250 has compared to the 350 is very different. The liftoff oversteer is something you really use on the cup 250 to get the nose planted if you've missed the apex just a bit. The Exige is faster in straight line speed obv and it is actually easier to get better laptimes on faster tracks due to the extra top-end. I honestly think the Cup 250 is a better choice if you're driving it on track and for several reasons. The running cost is day and night compared to the Exige. The V6 burns through fuel, tires don't last long compared to an Elise Cup, the brake discs crack after 3 trackdays due to the heat generated and you need to upgrade those for sure when driving on track. If we're talking Exige cup, that's a different story. I agree with your opinion that you feel you would reach the limit of the Elise cup faster, however in my opinion it's due to the amount of trust the car gives you due to it's excessive grip. I might be exaggerating here but in the Cup 250 I sometimes feel it has moments where it has some open-wheel characteristics. You need to get on the throttle earlier then your gut tells you, brake later then your gut tells you is possible... It is an absolute blast on track. Powerwise you do lack on faster circuits but you can fairly easily get it to 300hp. There even is a turbo conversion available nowadays but that is very $$$ because you need to upgrade gearbox to handle the power (460hp to be exact). As a track car I just use a cup 250 at the moment. I was very hecitant to buying a Cup 430 but decided not to due to exponential running cost increase at the moment for a car that spends a lot of time sitting in a garage. For a car that isn't being used much, in a country like Belgium it would be silly as we have ridiculous taxes on high hp cars and don't feel like wasting money. At some point I will probably uptrade towards a cup 430 but still feel the Elise cup 250 is a very challenging car. If you can't squeeze every tenth of a second out of an elise cup, you probably shouldn't be driving a higher hp car on track. It's a great stepup with tons of headroom for learning. Last trackday I was the 3th fastest car on track, just one second behind a 650hp ZL1 and an Arial Atom. I think that says a lot about how fast on track the Cup 250 really is if you already know somewhat what you're doing.

  • @Vonstroke
    @Vonstroke 4 роки тому +22

    Thanks for the Lotus content!

  • @Keroppikun
    @Keroppikun 4 роки тому +13

    Well done James. This Lotus content was a perfect b’day present for you and your channel. Keep up the good work.

  • @alexgordon2869
    @alexgordon2869 4 роки тому +8

    Great video. I’m about 2 months into Cup250 ownership (from Jamie at B&C) and enjoying every minute of it. I did test drive a few different Elise / Exige but went for the 250cup since it felt like the best compromise between track (which I’m fairly new to) and road (which obviously is the main amount of driving time). On the road the 250cup just felt more agile than the Exige. I’m also lucky enough to have a 911 (991.2) if I want quick!

  • @supraJZA80s
    @supraJZA80s 4 роки тому +5

    Cracker of a video with 2 wild cars, awesome to see them both side by side 👍

  • @global_nomad.
    @global_nomad. 4 роки тому +2

    thanks James for the continued great content, congrats at getting to three years and 39k + subscribers

  • @ahmadghobadi9803
    @ahmadghobadi9803 4 роки тому +2

    I bought a 2006 Lotus Elise (US version) thanks to your channel.

  • @Little6
    @Little6 4 роки тому

    Thank you for reviewing these great vehicles.

  • @purplemonstertv
    @purplemonstertv 4 роки тому +1

    These trackday vids are so good 😊. I need to book one up. Glad the channel doing so well.

  • @Little6
    @Little6 4 роки тому +1

    You deserve way more subscribers.

  • @BronchoGillespie
    @BronchoGillespie 4 роки тому +1

    I have to say that I enjoy this channel so much, I subscribed a while back, the content has grown since then, well done!

  • @techyd8411
    @techyd8411 4 роки тому +1

    Great video James, a fair comparison and outcome I think.

  • @inSUBout
    @inSUBout 4 роки тому +1

    I test drove that exact exige 350 sport, same number plate and everything. Most fun I've had in a car, bell and colvill are fantastic. Will be buying a lotus soon

  • @harald.370
    @harald.370 4 роки тому +4

    Logo has been improved; looks good 👍

  • @Augdown
    @Augdown 4 роки тому

    Continue to love you content - thanks Jay

  • @Convisis
    @Convisis 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent return to Lotus content. I desperately want an Exige 410 Sport.

  • @747Durango
    @747Durango 4 роки тому

    Beautiful track and amazing cars. You drive pretty well and were much more relaxed and smoother in the Exige. My choice too. Thanks for your insights.

  • @lok481
    @lok481 4 роки тому +3

    I drove a V6 sport then bought a Elise 225 cup and I found it more useable and enjoyable on the road. Amazingly rapid and sharp. Both beautiful cars though!