The ReactOS Marathon - Installing on Real Hardware! ($5 Windows 98 PC)
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In today's video, we're going to attempt to install ReactOS on the $5 Windows 98 PC! Let's see how this worked out, shall we?
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#MichaelMJD #ReactOS #Windows98 - Наука та технологія
First time I see ReactOS on a real PC. Even the official ReactOS videos use VirtualBox, which is really assuring.
A bit late to the party, but I've tried ReactOS on the bare metal in the past, using older versions. It... worked... but it wasn't great.
@@eriksiers BSoD when resizing a window is great!
@@jan237 I actually didn't use it enough for it to blue screen on me. 😁
could use toe to install it
Hello from the ReactOS team! Thank you for the nice video! We want to mention that next ReactOS version 0.4.13 is about to be released in the next few days.
P.S. We will be very grateful for any donations to support our project. The project is being developed almost only on donations of private individuals.
Thank you
Reactos really needs fixed I never been able to get a working install on any PC I've tried
I'm genuinely excited for 0.4.13
When I win the lottery, and assuming it's at least an eight figure payout after taxes, I pledge to donate $100,000 to the project.
@@SteeringWheelOperator Why would you play yourself like that?
This looks great. I always wanted a version of Windows less stable than Millenium.
I worked with Win ME on various PCs. Well, it is not SO bad. Definitely not worse, than Win 98 IMAO.
(And , most important: it had Space Cadet pinball!!! :)
@@user-jm3xl7rg5k Windows ME is great and it has support for USB drivers which 98 lacks
Me is definitely more stable than what the general public believes it to be. I've ran it just fine.
Up Next:
Installing ReactOS on the Original Xbox
Oh my God yes!!!!
It's such a bitch to do, but it is possible via older builds
Fun fact the ReactOS bootloader (FreeLoader) still natively recognizes the OG Xbox as an OG Xbox
Well he has an Apple TV 1st Gen from a previous video
I want to see this.
@@ErdrickHero me too
Red screen of death .
ReactOS is almost as unstable as my last relationship
And mine! lol! Sigh
Mine, too.... -_-
Lol
It is probably as unreliable as any MS product.
@@MarquisDeSang this has been in development for a whopping 24 years and its still crap
Yes, you did it!
I love your videos because this reminds me of my endless experiments with PCs and reinstalling different OSes over and over. This was pure fun.
Stay awesome, Michael!
Shut up!
i dont know why i love watch your videos in a rainy day, it just makes me confortable an calm
Michael I really liked this video. I haven't laughed that much since I got ill. I love "The 98 PC" videos. I can feel your frustration. Been there and done that many times. You would think that after 24 years they would have it together. At any rate keep plugging along my friend.
Great video! I never tried this, and I wanted to see this. Thank you Michael!
When you were installing the Other PCI Device, it said that if you installed custom hardware, it could make the system unusable. Maybe that was the problem.
Cool stuff, I had heard of this before but never seen it in action.
Thank you for sharing! ReactOS is an interesting project.
Thank you for making these awesome videos!
when i install reactos on vmware
it freezes after 15 minutes or so
Awesome video,Michael!
React OS whilst an interesting project has had little to no mass development in the years it's been around. There are plenty of better Linux and other operating systems that have just 1 developer and are in a stable state. I would like to see React OS go stable but they prefer to keep playing catch-up to the more and more things that run on Windows to run on React OS. If they simply made and took what they have now, made it stable without worrying about playing catch-up to Windows and then released a series of smaller updates that focus on compatibility then people can use it as a daily driver. Just a thought🤔🤔🤔
This happens when the developers of a new operating system love the system they are trying to clone too much. I don't expect ReactOS to ever become a usable alternative to Windows or other operating systems, especially as gaming is moving to the cloud and native Windows compatibility with games and applications is becoming irrelevant. It is still nice as a free version of Windows, but that may not really matter much anymore these days.
The comparison to Linux is a bit off because React is a whole OS being built from the ground, whereas Linux developers already have a fully-functioning kernel from the moment development begins.
@Clarissa 1986 We will see. I think gaming hardware is getting increasingly expensive while in many instances still tied to a combination of an operating system that is in decline, so it may be easier to just stream everything from the cloud.
Of course this will not be a solution for competitive gaming. And as all popular games are closed source, eventually publishers may not offer locally playable games anymore.
I dont think ReactOS has a real active development to it. If their goal was to replicate and Reverse engineer a Windows Environment they are far from it. The project started like 20+ years ago and it's still far from stable. They should have chosen a specific version of Windows to replicate and try to be as accurate as it can be.
i have a feeling its the yandere simulator of oses
I had that computer and used it for 4 years... I learned repair, upgrading and troubleshooting on it. It were a fine computer
Hey Michael, you said that you were having issues with the dual-booting when ReactOS was installed. I would recommend looking into the "BCDBoot" command, and trying to run that to recreate the bootloader for Windows 7 and Vista.
I would very much like to thank you for the really interesting content you have made for us to watch during times like these where we are stuck inside. Really helps pass the time, stay safe dude.
I actually had no problem installing React OS on my hardware. I'm afraid of removing it and installing another OS tho cause I'm afraid I won't get it to install again Dx.
Create a disk image using Clonezilla before installing another OS
I visit this video every now and then to admire that glorious system unit casing.
The graphic driver issue may not be a ReactOS problem. I seem to remember that many of the old VESA ROMs from back in the day were very buggy. This would cause DOS games to go weird as well.
What are you saying about?
@@guessthecountry265 he's saying at the graphics driver may not be a react OS problem
you just love your $5 win98 pc
Man I love the $5 Windows 98 PC!
What about trying installing a driver for the GPU for something like Windows 2000 or XP? Would have that worked?
I was planning to try ReactOS 0.4.12 on a $5 Dell 531s I found at a Goodwill store... Glad I didn't after seeing this.
Installed MX 19.1 and changed the desktop from Xfce to Cinnamon. Works really nice, would be fun to see that on the $5 Windows 98 PC...!
If you want a look similar to this windows 95/NT you could try antix with iceWM or ICEWM in another distros with the redmon theme and changing the fonts to tahoma. I did that in a thinkpad t60p and at least feels like old windows
Wipes out your boot loader, blue-screens on boot?
Sounds like they've managed to pretty faithfully recreate Windows ;-)
Many years ago, when I first tried ROS, It just bluescreened on me. I was like, yeah, it is a Windows clone!
hAhA LiNUx gOod wINdoWS bAD aMIRitE?
windows is a good operative system (at least windows xp, vista sp2, 7, 2000, 95, 98se, and 8.1) and linux and the other open source operating systems are good too. can't we have "windows good linux good" for once? it's always open source operating system users crapping on windows just because it is more popular, and because it is (kind of) a monopoly. bUT wAiT, I hAvE tO tEll eVEryONE hOW suPERioR LiNUx and BsD aRe! YoU'RE uSIng wiNdOWS????????? PAThetIC.
it uses FAT32, which is a bitch when it comes to keeping it from corrupting the shit out of itself
I can't wait for ReactOS to be finished.
Right now... It works fine in a VM! Never worked on any of the hardware I've tried to install it on...
6:50 oh god... Reminds me of the driver-pettiness of windows ME
I nominate the $5 Windows 98 PC for the most native OS installed. ReactOS is still trying to meet Server 2003 compatibility so it is a long way off from even Vista. Not to mention how buggy it is as it was in the video and it doesn't even support NTFS. If you want to dualboot, you should choose VBR install and then you can have the Windows Bootloader boot into the VBR of ReactOS to allow dualboot though it requires you to edit the bcd using bcdedit. Though, considering how buggy it is, ReactOS should be relegated to virtual machines. I mean, it is literally alpha software still (though a lot more useful than the GNU Hurd kernel)
CKing Pro
It can run age of empires 2 though
CKing Pro why do they keep building the project if it’s still in alpha after 20 odd years and decades behind current Windows. I just don’t see the point.
SpringBok01 the whole point is to provide an open source OS compatible with Windows but what is even more bizarre is why GNU Hurd is still in development after 30 years.
@@springbok4015
While yeah its obsolete its still better than nothing. If it ever reaches a state were its stable and people actually start supporting it, it could be very much the end of microsoft.
Just imagine, lots of people are still using XP and 7 nowadays, me included, if people went "back" and started supporting reactOS as they did back then with XP, which isnt that hard, then lots of people would have no excuse not to use it instead of windows. DirectX works on top of windows so you could always install it on reacOS provided it implemented all the syscalls necesary for it. Its just a matter of reactOS implementing everything it needs and people using it, then companies will jump in, just like they did with linux.
@@laharl2k ReactOS would definitely need to be 64-bit to be a viable alternative to modern operating systems (though having 32-bit and 16-bit compatibility layers is not a bad idea), but otherwise, yeah. As far as general usability, not much has changed in the way Windows has worked since XP that people don't generally dislike.
Next time install some build of Longhorn on it.
Or Sigma OS 3.0
Awesome video! !!
I've tried to install and run ReactOS two times, and both times was disappointed. It wouldn't run.
I hope one of these days I can try a later version and it'll finally work.
@@birdsplaybs1234 That's the exact problem. It installs ok in a standard predictable virtualbox VM, but that's not what you need an OS for. You need an OS to run on real hardware.
Thank you for doing this video
You’re welcome!
I was actually wondering if something like this was possible (with the compatible binary) and I thought this was really cool.
I applaud you michael for having an old enough machine that is able to run react OS. Trying to run it on anything newer than around 2004-2005ish era hardware is a nightmare. God I really regret giving away my dimension XPS T600r from around the year 2000. It had a Riva TNT2 32mb AGP card in it, along with a 600mhz Pentium III, and 256MB of RAM. Ugh. Mistakes were made. :(
Thats a very very old one to try running it
I'd recommend buying a used pentium or celeron laptop from the late 2000s
Or even a decent netbook
It would run a lot better and possibly have better compatibilty
FUN FACT: That broken "Press Ctrl-Alt-Delete to begin." prompt happens after an unexpected shutdown, which sometimes causes the system registry to implode on itself if you're unlucky.
you really love your 5 dollar windows PC!!!
ReactOS has always worked well for me in VirtualBox with no issues.
They are on a good way to make it completely compatible with win xp in the next 20 years
Mom can we buy a copy of windows?
No, we have windows at home.
Windows at home:
@@LimsExPress I mean you don't even have to do that. I run Windows 10 in a VM as well (not activated) but the only annoyance is the watermark but you can ignore that and it is safer than a crack which may or may not contain malware). I could activate it too but I don't want to burn the license on a VM)
@John Kurian if you do need a copy of Windows I have a Win10 Pro license)
@@ckingpro that's very kind of you - but I already have a Windows 10 license. I worte the comment as a joke.
Dude. Reactos is better than windows. It has no spyware.
@@hexagonist23 well not than Windows 7 or even the version it's supposed to replicate, which is Server 2003 due to how unstable it is right now
but I sure hope that it will eventually work properly and be stable and compatible with most if not all Windows software
that OG Xbox Option likely is only for Dev units/those that did the Ram upgrade hack (where you can tack on an extra 64MB Ram to double up to 128MB Ram by sodering onto the backside on the MB,)
Does the same VBE driver problem occur when you use Standard PC HAL instead (select "Standard PC Uniprocessor" computer type at setup)? When it comes to multi-boot, you need to set it up in freeldr.ini. Install Windows Vista/7 first (same as previously), then ReactOS and add an entry for Windows Boot Manager partition.
Have you tried writing the video drivers for the on board graphics to a CD and install the drivers manually to React OS?
I have tried every flavor of Linux i could find with no luck on this old Systemax Sabre G67 and i keep getting an LFENCE error, so im going to give this a try thank you
Aw, you should've used BTRFS! That would've been cool. (I mean, its not like this went very far anyway)
Otherwise, awesome video as always! Maybe I should try and play with ReactOS... Also another suggestion for the $5 PC, try HaikuOS! That might be cool.
ReactOS btrfs drivers are great. I've been dual booting Windows 10 and Void Linux with a shared zstd compressed btrfs /home partition symlinked as the Windows' Users folder
it's as stable as any native fs for each OS
@@ponirvea so you installed the btrfs drivers for reactos on windows? pretty neat setup you have there i might have to try something similar lol
I have an extremely bad laptop (Lenovo g505) which has a 2 core processor with the speed of only 1Ghz! It also has 4gb of ram. A lot of Linux distros that I tried (lubuntu, manjaro kde, Ubuntu) are slow on the laptop and oftenly freeze. I recently installed windows xp on the laptop and although it runs fine it detects only 2 out of 4 gb of ram it has. How well would React OS work on it?
Nice vid !
ReactOS drivers support is very incomplete. You can get into device manager without much trouble usually.
You could try installing Windows Thin PC which is basically a light weight version of Windows 7. It's kind of similar to Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs
Seriously trying ReactOS sounds fitting for an April 1st video.
Isn't ReactOS supposed to be Windows XP/Server 2003 driver compatible? If your onboard graphics has 2000/XP/2003 drivers you could try those instead of VGA.
Anyway, it seems ReactOS handles low-color modes REALLY badly. It doesn't even turn off the gradient effect on the title bar (which obviously doesn't look anywhere near decent in 16-color modes)
Soo Nice !
What program would work to use a bootable CD?
I tried using Rufus and it’s isn’t going anywhere. I’m planning on installing it on my pentium three Lenovo Thinkpad.
You should use btrfs Filesystem it should Work better plz Like so He can See.
Yeah, butterfs works so much better
Wow thanks for 6 likes🤗
@@creamy8715 we only likes so he can see, don't feel special kid.
Having used ReactOS as my daily for a couple months I'm glad to see others realising it's quite fit for use now :)
It honestly doesn't seem to be, though... it reminds me of those custom ROMs for Android that are listed as "beta/works" and are _technically_ capable of booting up, but also have a "known problem" section that's half a page long and includes things such as "camera doesn't take video" and "GPS doesn't get a fix". I guess you could turn a ReactOS machine into a writing device, but then you can do that on KolibriOS too and it'll be much faster...
What is wrong with you
I installed it on my old laptop.. Worked great... Had some issues with the discrete vs integrated gpu but other than that it worked out fine.
So that issue is the same as with xp and such
Please can you update the 98pc playlist please??
I have the exact same dvd drive in my 98pc and have been suffering the same problem where the discs just stop reading. It just seems that those particular drives just randomly stop reading after a while.
A messed up BCD can cause it to not see an OS. You can many times rename the BCD and rebuild it from a boot disk.
I had a CTRL+ALT+DELETE key issue as well in a VM running React OS
Hope you have better luck next time Michael!
Freezing up at shutdown is an issue I very regularly have on my main laptop when running Linux. I don't know why, but it seems open source OSes don't like ACPI.
This really depends on the motherboard you're using. On some boards it has trouble shutting down or going to sleep mode.
@@markusTegelane Well anything other than Windows absolutely hates mine.
Close all programs before Logging out before you shutdown. Logging out forces all of the programs to stop. Shutting down directly won't always do this and will wait for programs to stop. This causes the freeze up.
did you try version 0.4.12, i got that mostly working on a later pc, hp dx2250
Como voce fez pra funcionar o react OS tenho uma socket A instalei nela e nao funcionou
I tried to make a bootable USB installer with ReactOS on it, and it absoluteo 100% refuses to boot, even though it sees the drive as bootable, regardless of how many times I have redone the USB drive (i've used PowerISO, UltraISO, Rufus, etc. to no avail)
Both 0.4.12 and 0.4.13-RC install fine in Virtualbox using 1024x768x32 during install. ODD thing is, I installed the 0.4.12 using linux x64 as a base with 4GB RAM and my CPU showed as my i7@ 3.8Ghz in ReactOS properties box. I installed 0.4.13 on an NT base, with 4GB RAM and it showed as an i7@1GHZ CPU speed in the same properties box. I'm going to see if it reads OK when I use a Windows 2000 base. It installs everything but a sound driver, I am going to try a few Win98 ones I have and see if any work on it, I expect they won't.
Also, the theme switcher works perfectly, ALL the theme icons work, and the styles are shown as thumbnails. And you might try changing the ACPI PC Uniprocessor to a Standard PC Uniprocessor on install
Hi MJD, for multiple booting, didn't you consider of using Plop boot manager?
Or would it contaminate your classic/retro setup?
I have used it a few times before to boot from a USB drive. I even did a video on it a few years ago!
@@MichaelMJDah, OK
as far as I know, Plop has abilities to switch partitions and disks to be perceived by OS in particular order. So every boot entry on plop sets booted device as C: drive
that five dollar investment really went a long way
We need serious developers to take over ReactOS and make it the new Windows 7 after the EOF
At the current pace, it would take like 30 years, and Windows 7 will be as modern as the very first versions of DOS are today.
I don't think ReactOS will ever reach Windows 7, this is like asymptote trying to reach zero
If I were rich, I'd get ReactOS to Beta with a Longhorn theme. If only... :(
better yet get microsoft to open source 7
This project has taken more time to developed that the actual amount of time it took windows 98 to be since windows 1.0, might as well do a new operating system all together
My React OS struggles to install on Vmware player
Just try to play UA-camvideo on Firefox in Reactos. Seemed to work, but when i pressed play its froze.
I installed it and using it you need to provide display driver or other manually i dont think it finds any driver online.
Oh, that sounds a bit like gnu hurd, not to detract from any of those projects but will they evere reach 1.0?
install Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs
It will work perfectly!
FLP is basically just a smaller XP though
He already did, look in his channel.
Have you also tried POSReady 2009?
btrfs is really good, actually. At least on Linux.
ReactOS is Probably just A Windows NT experience for Compatibility of Apps and Games. Experimenting is really important.
what about the windows drivers for that video chip?.
I actually got it to work on real hardware a DFI 915 board with a Dothan family CPU though it wasn't easy and I used a very old PCI Radeon to get video working right.
Speaking of OSes in development hell, maybe you could install GNU/Hurd?
Could you do a video on Windows NT version 5.0 I believe this was a Beta before Windows 2000
Michael MJD is slowly turning into Duraga1.
Hello there, Micheal1 here....
Maybe you should have tried a nightly build (or shouldn't have), not sure which you picked.
Drivers for on board devices are sometimes not available in W10.
wow you had more dramas that it should take to install.. i installed ReactorOS a few years back and installed with minimal problems on my old p4 "actual install" so looks like very much hardware variation dependent to how the experience will turn out..it's a shame this project don't get more dev or support from good coders.
ReactOS: "we build it and it litterally doesn't work"
Damn they've been working on ReactOS for the past 22 years? That's a year more than I have lived...
@Clarissa 1986 I feel like their priorities are not right, they should focus on making an OS that actually works and is somewhat stable first, and just look at the damn leaked XP code already! learn from it and implement things in their own way without using any actual Microsoft code, that's how reverse-engineering works but the team refuses to do this and this is why they'll be forever trapped in an unstable unusable piece of crap that someday it will die a pathetic death.
The new hardware dialog had a "Do not show this dialog anymore" option. Perhaps problems when adding hardware was affected by this dialog being open? I dunno. I think I tried ReactOS once, and had to give up also. I like the idea, but it's just so far from usable.
IDK if you are doing requests about the $5 Win98 PC. But can you try to install Red Hat 6.2 on it sometime?
Might be worth a try! Thanks for the suggestion
This presentation reminds me why I should have been an electrician or a plumber.
I haven't tried ReactOS since 0.4.11, might be worth taking another look
ReactOS is getting more stable.. you should try the nightly builds. they're bit more stable.
Ohh snap. :D
22:50
BSOD: ...*heck* to make sure...
Me: ...ok.
You should install gentoo!
I'm gonna try it on real hardware too. Core 2 Quad, 10 Gb of RAM. Let's roll baby haha. But I think that something will be messed up. Memory and display drivers, in particular.
you should try this again
Give them another 22 years and Im sure it will be fine.
22 years later: Hey guys welcome to another video, this time we're gonna take a look at ReactOS alpha 0.90.643.666.4 and..... it crashed at boot time again, well see you in 40 more years for the next alpha.
What's specs on this pc? Would you consider install low spec Linux on this pc?
So, what I got out of this is not to bother with ReactOS. Last time I tried to use it was about 10 years ago. And it doesn't seemed to have done much in that time.