Try to incentivise even more. The more the merrier -- literally. If parties need to collaborate to pass legislation, they have to keep it civil at all times. Multipartisanship is built in, as it were.
@@robertshelton3796 The US copied its electoral system from its erstwhile foes, the British, and ended up with a similarly archaic electoral system that favours large parties at the expense of smaller ones. Likewise, the UK is afflicted with a de facto duopoly in the Tories and Labour, who take turns governing the country. All because of an archaic electoral system.
@@robertshelton3796 Correct me if I'm wrong but in an election if a party wins a majority of districts it gets all the electoral votes of that state for the presidential race. For the senate and house race it's state wide election that elects 0, 1 or 2 senators (wich is not proportional to population). Let's say I run a third party. If I want to elect a president It's impossible because the other two parties are really well established (would need 33% of districts). If I want to elect a senator, I have to win an entire state (50% of that state) wich is not really manageable. If instead I had to win a small portion of that state (let's say the state is divided in 8 and each part elects a seneator) I could get a senator elected with 6.25% of the votes in a state. Much more easy now. This causes voters to not even considering voting for a third party. Why vote for the party that represents my ideas if there's 0% chance my vote will be meaningful? People then tend to vote to block a party from winning. In alot of other democracies a party can get 1 representatives (or more) elected with 4% of votes. That brings money, media coverage and political power to that party. Wich in turn brings more votes.
No, the difference is the 20B is actual money, the 80B he's not money. It's war supplies, the 80 billion is how much those supplies are valued. You didn't pay any actual money nimrod
No, the difference is the 20B is actual money, the 80B he's not money. It's war supplies, the 80 billion is how much those supplies are valued. You didn't pay any actual money nimrod
I'm a Chinese immigrant and I hate Trump, but on the illegal immigration issue, I have to side with the Republicans. While those of us who respect and abide by US's laws, earn our degrees, pay our taxes, wait years in line to earn our citizenship, there are millions of illegals that just casually marches across the border, violate the laws and cut in front of the legal immigrants. This is not right, this is not fair. Democrats should side with the Republicans on this issue and stop the illegal immigration, while the Republicans should agree with the Democrats to increase LEGAL immigration based on individual merits.
You should do more research and understand what's actually happening in Congress. Democrats agreed to include Republican provisions on immigration restrictions into the bill. It was actually a bipartisan Senate bill. Then Republicans, fearing that their favorite issue might actually get solved, vetoed that bill in the House
Exactly, if one goes to another country is to respect their laws and culture, and join the workforce. Some just enter to 'abuse' aid programs and demand homes, clothing, and non-countryside jobs.
See the issue is right there people can't wait for years unless you telling those people to wait years with risks to their own lives over just illegally coming here plus majority of crimes are done by citizens. Also, majority of the illegals aren't even from crossing the border, its from people who visit the country and overstay their time.
@@RatherCrunchyMuffincomplete nonsense. Even if President Trump had supported this bill, the vast majority of conservatives would have opposed it. It’s a bad bill.
the major problem is that the system is stupidily slow for them, so they basically only have one choice to get to america, and while drug dealers should absolutely get deported, a lot of them would want to earn degrees, pay taxes and even become citizens.
Allowing and encouraging illegal immigration is extremely cruel toward our brothers and sisters making these journeys. Undocumented people will be exploited in every way. Protect their humanity and demand everyone go through the safe and legal pathways.
“Allowed illegal”. Sounds like you made a law that you acknowledge doesn’t work. So you are allowing your law to be broken because you know the law makes no sense. Can I make it illegal for you move across the street and then say I’m “allowing you to illegally cross the street”?
@@dynamicsolider102 tell me a moral objection to having a border with specific ports of entry and not allowing illegal immigrants? What moral objection is there to require immigrants to go through a process to become a citizen. What moral objection is there to give away our resources to help someone when we already have our own issues? Such as rising costs and stagnating wages. Such as homelessness. Such as people struggling to afford shelter. I get there are people in bad places that need help, but we cant help everyone unless we help ourselves. If someone is actively being chased and they have no option other than to run across the border, that's fine we'll let them, but you'll still be arrested. They have the same human rights as us, that never changed.
@@ducknerwhat moral objection would you have to take away your citizenship just like you are denying citizenship to others? Are you superior to them? If so how?
It'd be really nice to see the WSJ provide a good-faith representation of the economic theory + resulting policy proposals of the Republicans/Democrats instead of a piece like this that is heavy on narrative / light on empirical numbers.
Empirical numbers say that over 1 million people have illegally entered the US between November 2023 and January 2024, all crossing the southern border. There is always much to be gained when playing sandbox politics, and that's what the Republicans are doing. If they had passed the bill in Congress and something had been finally done, they can't continue to use the issue in order to make Trump more attractive to voters in 2024, and because people have the attention spans of Golden Retrievers, they're not smart enough to see that that's exactly what's happening here. This piece just elucidated that and it went over your head too, judging from your comment. If they wanted to fix the border it could have been done several times over since 2007, but politicians will always want to add their pork into bills, both left and right, because they honestly don't care about us.
Money for lots of weapons to foreign country's in exchange to sub par border security. Nothing to do with progress. ( anti Biden but so called inflation reduction was a good thing)
@Saiputera Because Republicans refused to allow funding for Israel and Ukraine unless there was a bill on Immigration. Ironically despite the Immigration bill failing, the senate passed Ukraine/Israel aid. I can't stand the hypocrisy of the republican party
What a horrible video. Completely failed to mention the very valid reason the bill was rejected ie the normalizing of nearly 2 million illegal immigrants a year into the country
We all know that government funding solves problems of course. I mean border patrol funding was zero 100 years ago and now it’s infinity. What has border patrol accomplished in 100 years?
You don't understand the bill. 5K/day is the maximum number of people who will be given asylum hearings, not the number of people who will actually be allowed into the country. Most asylum claims are rejected after they are heard, the problem currently is that we don't have the capacity to hear them all, so people stay in the country while they wait for their hearing, which can take months or years. Also, 5k/day is FAR lower than the current limit, because as it stands, there is NO LIMIT, meaning literally anyone who comes to the border is legally entitled to a hearing, which is the whole reason we have such a huge backlog in the first place.
Yes. Trump has always only cared about power not policy. When he first entered politics he tried it as a moderate. When that didn't work he rebranded as hyper right wing.
Wake up people. This was not a border bill. It was a Ukraine and Israel bill that had no intention of undoing or stopping the damage that Biden has already caused by letting millions of people in per year.
@@badluck5647it was a bad bill to begin with. Biden already has a lot of discretion. For 3 years he did nothing but reversing policies of previous administration that actually worked.
Much bigger problem is that military help to Ukraine is frozen due to Republicans. If Ukraine fails against russia US will soon need to send its troops to Europe again. So its much cheaper to spend 6% of military budget now then fighting against soviets
@@jerrymiller9039 for your knowledge you are not giving money to Ukraine, you are paying to american weapon companies for replacing old rusty trash from junk yards which costs millions to recycle otherwise. But Trump and Fix won't tell you that. And no fence will help you on the border as well, there always be ways to come in. You should be grateful for the cheap labor though you have
@@jerrymiller9039 Not at the moment, even with our help Ukraine is low on 155mm ammunition that it needs for its’ artillery. It will take some time to build more facilities that are required to meet the demand.
The issue with this bill is that NO ONE tells the people what the big sum of money is comprised of. 20+ billion goes to border protection (which is the biggest investment in U.S. history, in border protection). The amounts going to Ukraine, Israel and S.A. Asia (Philipines, Taiwan etc.) is comprised not of MONEY, but ARMS. Arms with expiration dates. No one explains that most ammunition has chemicals which expire, and they need to be replaced (normally, they would be dismantled (WHICH COSTS ACTUAL TAX MONEY)). Explosives, rocket/missile fuels are chemical components with expiration dates. Some arms have gasses which leak. Some arms have chemical paints which expire. Even artillery rounds and some types of bullets (you know your 2nd ammenments right...???) expire. When they expire, they can be unreliable and even cause friendly casualties. So they give these ammunitions and equipment to allies (Like Ukraine and Israel). They go into the books as "sums of money" (which they are not). Media and politicians are as dumb as the population. They keep them dumb even. Inform the people. Problem solved.
My understanding from the bill it was just a way to say they handled the border when they really didn’t and just gave more money for processing adult immigrants. If a young man claimed to be under 17 he was counted as a minor and not included in the numbers. It’s like saying you solved child abuse by eliminating the age of consent. I read other criticisms of the bill. This report seems to skip all of them. I thought WSJ was a conservative news source not even one item that show some flaws in this bill. They also initially tied billions of more aid to Ukraine. They submitted a bill they knew republicans wouldn’t pass just to say the republicans are the problem.
I actually was looking to find the bill by name H.R.815. Am i wrong that is the bills name? i wanted to read the full bill. does it get removed if the bill is not passed?
What is the point of passing border legislation while we still have sanctuary states? If democrats were at all serious about the issue, sanctuary cities and states wouldn't exist. If the democrats were truly interested in border security, they wouldn't be engaging in a catch and release policy. It is difficult to get into this country legally and it should be. It is a simple way to measure each individuals capacity to do well in our country. If a person can make it through our process, they have a far greater chance of succeeding in our society, without a lot of hand holding. And illegal immigration should be met with zero tolerance. There is no reason to sneak in.
If you watched this video close to release, spam bots are pretty much a guarantee. Idk why UA-cam is so bad at targeting spam, especially since many of the accounts have one common word they use for promotion. Like, why not just blacklist AMZPKK??
Republicans got a great deal but rejected it because it’s the only policy they know how to run on. Fixing the issue would mean they would have to have some other policy to run on, that’s a lot of work. Easier to keep rehashing the same issue for decades. If or when Ukraine falls and Russia continues to on its war economy footing we’ll remember who stop the flow of weapons to Ukraine. Unfortunately those people won’t be drafted to fight when Article 5 of NATO is enacted.
Border Patrol Union has itself ENDORSED the Bipartisan Deals. Why? Because the largest chunk of $ goes to hiring and training new border patrol agents, more judges to process or deny claims, etc. Which is also more JOBS right? Plus, it includes High Tech security much better than a wall i.e. drones buzzing around all over, heat sensor, and all sorts of gadgets. But no, Trump and other hardliners want the problem to remain for their election.....
Ya no, Immigration is just at an all time high all over the world right now, they need a bill to be able to deal with it. Executed powers only do so much
Still No news. on u.s old immigration reform. Congress must use your neck! to see back problem and solve LEGAL immigrant obstacles and Clear NVC backlog All visas + diversity visa Decision making backlog.
What are talking about? This bill would’ve moved asylum claims out of the hands of the courts away from the lawyers and into the hands of “asylum officers” with the directive to only grant asylum to those who can provide “clear and convincing” proof that there’s a credible fear of persecution.
@@DoubleGoonany claims or disputes regarding this law would be adjudicated by the DC circuit. That means when the left wing extremists file their lawsuits over the provisions in the bill it would be left wing judges in DC deciding as opposed to the fifth circuit which is located in the region where the people who are actually affected by the dysfunction live.
@@SC-rc4rs legal challenges about expedited deportation (which the law would've allowed) are already required to be filed in the dc circuit. The bill would've changed nothing about how Texas can sue over this or other border issues or what the state can challenge in court
@@Semper_Iratus the measures that Trump used during the pandemic can only be used during a state of emergency. The supreme Court shut those down because they don't think that the country is in a state of emergency that requires giving the president that level of power to over rule Congress. This bill comes from Congress, therefore ties both the hands of the president and the supreme Court.
Here's the new bill, ban all new entries till we can figure out the economy, infrastructure and drugs problem, reopen borders after problems are fixed with new regulations in place
I like how the conservative WSJ is trying to twist and hide the fact that the democratic were ready to agree to republican demands but trump shut it down because he wanted to campaign on it 😂
Your comment would only make sense if Trump's policy is the same as the border bill but it is not. The current situation is one where the federal government took texas to the supreme court because texas was stopping the feds from letting millions of illegals into the country. The feds were literally cutting the barbed wire to help people get in. Then the demoncrats came up with a rubbish bill that refuses to properly solve the problem that Biden is creating. And you expect Trump to just accept that and then not campaign on fixing this mess? That doesn't make any sense. Its like if you burn down my house and then you try to compensate me by buying me a lego house. Then when I refuse your offer and sue your for damages, you laugh and tell the judge that you were ready to agree to buy me a lego house and then I "shut it down" because I wanted to sue over it.
@@nathankoon7749 it was a bad bill to begin with. Biden already has a lot of discretion. For 3 years he did nothing but reversing policies of previous administration that actually worked.
@@grimaffiliations3671 Do you even know the full story? Biden is letting almost 3 million illegals in per year which is like 5 times as much as Obama's worst years. And the feds are literally suing Texas for trying to close the border. This bill still allows millions of people to enter even if the feds take it seriously, which we know they won't. It doesn't solve the problem. The problem is Biden and nobody is interested in going along with this scam to make it look like Biden is trying to solve the problem that he deliberately created.
Trump had the house and the senate in 2016 He could have passed that bill. Instead he chose to pass tax cuts for the rich. Both parties feign caring. Corporations love cheap labor.
@@commonsensenotsocommon840 Great...we should probably focus on the present. I mean JFK should have seen this coming and passed something in '62 right?
@@blnunya6689 HR2 is a partisan bill by a slim majority in the house. Pushed by the far right part of that party. Do you think that would even have a chance to pass the senate then signed by the president. The latest bill was the best chance of actually doing something. Don’t you think something is better than nothing?
@@commonsensenotsocommon840 No I think a bill that actually does something at the border as opposed to just continuing the status qou is what needs to happen.
The USA must export either Social Democracy or Social Christianity to the countries of origin of immigrants in order to improve conditions in their countries; thus reducing immigration and pressure unto US borders. The destruction of the welfare state and public services in Latin American countries like Honduras by neoliberal elitist "democracy" is precisely what pushes Latinos to leave their countries. The United States of North America, jointly with Latin American and Caribbean countries, should promote the creation of a Catholic Social Democratic Party in each country. Otherwise, the immigration nightmare won't stop.
I think it fell apart as no one gave the politicians cash in unmarked currency in a brown paper bag. If this would have happened with more cash than the cartels are giving politicians, I bet it would have passed.
The Mexican cartels aren't giving American politicians bags of money. You're thinking of American agricultural companies. When any state manages to pass effective immigration enforcement (e.g. mandating eVerify), big Ag hurts.
As long as they report on the truth when it comes to Trump his supporters will always say this. You might notice the lack of similar comments when WSJ reports on Democrats’ failures.
@@DoubleGoon you have 62 comments on this channel that have heavy bias and opinion leaning to one side like the channel itself. It would be a big waste of time I don’t have to offer you anymore comments but here I am. Get a life
How about we actually take care of our own country instead of another. I understand helping with Ukraine's fight but not over our own borders and our own country. Atleast give the border money on par with our foreign aid, that is just being burned through faster than we can print them
Well you can’t really deny that is not the cause. That was literally what the extreme wing of GOP wanted, and they got it, and now when it was looking like it will give Dems a head up, they killed it, mostly under the direction of Trump
@@AI-xs4fp it omits relevant context. For example, if a hypothetical immigration bill allocated funds for a pedophilia network and on that account Republicans rejected it and WSJ reports that Republicans are inconsistent or like "the dog that caught the car" bc the issue is "toxic" to their base without ever discussing the application of funds to pedophilia (hypothetical for arguments sake). I mean, that's just unprofessional, amateurish journalism.
Not much to this long piece. The Senate bill was an open borders bill that would have allowed for mass amnesty. You can be sure if Schumer and Murphy are for it, it is bad for the American worker.
proposed a draft law on the border and with aid to Ukraine - it was rejected. proposed a draft law on the border without assistance for Ukrainians - it was also rejected. so what do you need trump? presidency?
I hate when people say things like this. Tell the full story. The one where Biden took the number of illegal immigrant arrivals from 400k per year (which is already too high!) to 2+ million per year and then the corrupt leaders of each party came up with a bill that did nothing to fix the problem that we've wanted fixed! Its not enough to remove the aid. The problem that Biden caused needs to be fixed.
This is one of the many reasons I will not vote for Trump... He just cares what helps him politicaly not what is actually good for our country... Haley 2024!
The people risking everything and begging to be part of a country are looked down on by those who routinely state that they would leave the same country if they don't get their way on topics that consistently remove rights away from the citizens of, again, the same country that prides itself on freedom.
@@sagunsingh7415 don't you think it would be easier to get a pay raise in your own country than it would be to try illegally work in a country known for treating migrants like dirt. The whole premise of migration is to start fresh in a land that isn't dangerous. They're not doctors trying to bump up their salary, they're people willing to get a chance to live in a new place even if they can bring anything with them.
@@sagunsingh7415 the minimum wage in the US is horrible. Worse for migrants. Plus the cost of living is way higher than any south american country. Those who feel safe and valuable in their home stay there. Those with nothing left to lose choose to risk everything on the chance to disappear in an unknown land.
@@Isaac-eh6uu imagine feeling like your country and living situation is so bad that you would do anything to seek refuge in the "land of opportunities" or "the freest nation"
Why are random people poruing across the border? Why can't we just take our military (which we spend almost $1trillion on) and make those troops protect the border?
The Posse Comitatus Act. Legally they can’t unless directed by Congress or there’s a declared national emergency by the President in which he can order federal troops to respond to the national emergency. However, the National Guard, while they’re under the direction of their state can perform law enforcement duties and often are deployed by border states to bolster border security. Still the federal military provides logistical support to the Border Patrol, ICE and U.S. Coast Guard.
@@DoubleGoon well, I believe the president should declare a national emergency, as people are literally dying everyday from the drugs pouring over the southern border
The US needs a complete replacement of all sitting politicians, from POTUS all the way down to school board members. 100% reboot. Changing a few faces at the podiums every couple of years is a practice in futility. Like term limits for the House & Senate, it will never happen.
'If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.' George Carlin "The people of the US are so ignorant and selfish there had to be stoplights installed at the end of freeway onramps" SVJoe
When ever conversations is R or D It wont move forward D have supported a closed border and R have advocated for eased immigration. Deal with the issue and not play teams.
There's even a new one called "Securing Borders & Democracy" in the House right now. Why doesn't Johnson take up Bipartisan* Problem Solver Caucus Bill ??
Why didn't trump fix it when he was in office with a republican congressional majority? Same reason Republicans will vote against a bill with everything they previously asked for. They want the border problem to be eternal -- its all theater to whip up conservative voters
You lacked to mention that the reason that the Republican Party voted against this bill is bc the majority of the money for this bill was to go to Ukraine and the bill was named immigration bill.
time and time again they eventually keep voting yes to ukraine aid. So they are still going to allow foreign aid on top of getting nothing for it. A huge failure on the Republican's part.
Wasn't that literally the deal though? Tougher border politics (negotiated by a Republican, with democrats relenting on almost every points) for more Ukraine support funds? Or did Republicans forget that a deal goes both ways? Or could it be that someone told them not to vote for it?
Republicans refused Ukraine funding without a border plan, so the border plan was negotiated and added, then they refused it. *cue Curb your Enthusiasm music
That's why you need an electoral reform to incentivize a third party.
Try to incentivise even more. The more the merrier -- literally. If parties need to collaborate to pass legislation, they have to keep it civil at all times. Multipartisanship is built in, as it were.
What incentives do you need? Start a 3rd party with a compelling narrative and a record of delivering and it'll get votes
@@robertshelton3796 The US copied its electoral system from its erstwhile foes, the British, and ended up with a similarly archaic electoral system that favours large parties at the expense of smaller ones. Likewise, the UK is afflicted with a de facto duopoly in the Tories and Labour, who take turns governing the country. All because of an archaic electoral system.
No more winner takes all in elections.
@@robertshelton3796 Correct me if I'm wrong but in an election if a party wins a majority of districts it gets all the electoral votes of that state for the presidential race. For the senate and house race it's state wide election that elects 0, 1 or 2 senators (wich is not proportional to population). Let's say I run a third party. If I want to elect a president It's impossible because the other two parties are really well established (would need 33% of districts). If I want to elect a senator, I have to win an entire state (50% of that state) wich is not really manageable. If instead I had to win a small portion of that state (let's say the state is divided in 8 and each part elects a seneator) I could get a senator elected with 6.25% of the votes in a state. Much more easy now.
This causes voters to not even considering voting for a third party. Why vote for the party that represents my ideas if there's 0% chance my vote will be meaningful? People then tend to vote to block a party from winning.
In alot of other democracies a party can get 1 representatives (or more) elected with 4% of votes. That brings money, media coverage and political power to that party. Wich in turn brings more votes.
Please distinguish between legal immigration and Illegal immigration.
Making an asylum claim is legal.
And please consider them ALL human beings
@@oldasrocks9121 Making an Asylum Claim getting impatient and illegally jumping the border is still illegal sooo
One entry method is legal as prescribed by law. The other method of entry is illegal as prescribed by law.
@@rochellestarr9538👈nope. if I must obey the law, you must also. Period.
The Bill: $20B border & $80B Ukraine 🇺🇦 😂
No, the difference is the 20B is actual money, the 80B he's not money. It's war supplies, the 80 billion is how much those supplies are valued. You didn't pay any actual money nimrod
No, the difference is the 20B is actual money, the 80B he's not money. It's war supplies, the 80 billion is how much those supplies are valued. You didn't pay any actual money nimrod
To the people who voted for open borders, how bout you pay their taxes. Leave our American citizens out of this!
I'm a Chinese immigrant and I hate Trump, but on the illegal immigration issue, I have to side with the Republicans. While those of us who respect and abide by US's laws, earn our degrees, pay our taxes, wait years in line to earn our citizenship, there are millions of illegals that just casually marches across the border, violate the laws and cut in front of the legal immigrants. This is not right, this is not fair. Democrats should side with the Republicans on this issue and stop the illegal immigration, while the Republicans should agree with the Democrats to increase LEGAL immigration based on individual merits.
You should do more research and understand what's actually happening in Congress. Democrats agreed to include Republican provisions on immigration restrictions into the bill. It was actually a bipartisan Senate bill. Then Republicans, fearing that their favorite issue might actually get solved, vetoed that bill in the House
Exactly, if one goes to another country is to respect their laws and culture, and join the workforce. Some just enter to 'abuse' aid programs and demand homes, clothing, and non-countryside jobs.
See the issue is right there people can't wait for years unless you telling those people to wait years with risks to their own lives over just illegally coming here plus majority of crimes are done by citizens. Also, majority of the illegals aren't even from crossing the border, its from people who visit the country and overstay their time.
@@RatherCrunchyMuffincomplete nonsense. Even if President Trump had supported this bill, the vast majority of conservatives would have opposed it. It’s a bad bill.
the major problem is that the system is stupidily slow for them, so they basically only have one choice to get to america, and while drug dealers should absolutely get deported, a lot of them would want to earn degrees, pay taxes and even become citizens.
Allowing and encouraging illegal immigration is extremely cruel toward our brothers and sisters making these journeys. Undocumented people will be exploited in every way. Protect their humanity and demand everyone go through the safe and legal pathways.
What legal pathways?
Trump is literally threatening to deport legal migrants
The Border Bill allowed 5000 illegal immigrants a day. If exceeded the DHS still had the option to do nothing. The bill was not bipartisan
“Allowed illegal”. Sounds like you made a law that you acknowledge doesn’t work. So you are allowing your law to be broken because you know the law makes no sense. Can I make it illegal for you move across the street and then say I’m “allowing you to illegally cross the street”?
Because illegal immigration is, Illegal maybe?
Slavery was one legal. Laws need to be changed to represent where we are now.
@@dynamicsolider102 tell me a moral objection to having a border with specific ports of entry and not allowing illegal immigrants? What moral objection is there to require immigrants to go through a process to become a citizen. What moral objection is there to give away our resources to help someone when we already have our own issues? Such as rising costs and stagnating wages. Such as homelessness. Such as people struggling to afford shelter.
I get there are people in bad places that need help, but we cant help everyone unless we help ourselves. If someone is actively being chased and they have no option other than to run across the border, that's fine we'll let them, but you'll still be arrested. They have the same human rights as us, that never changed.
@@ducknerwhat moral objection would you have to take away your citizenship just like you are denying citizenship to others? Are you superior to them? If so how?
@@firstlast9916we are superior. We live here
@@zelohendricks51 14th amendment says the opposite. Equal protection clause says all persons cannot be denied liberty. Not citizens. Persons.
It'd be really nice to see the WSJ provide a good-faith representation of the economic theory + resulting policy proposals of the Republicans/Democrats instead of a piece like this that is heavy on narrative / light on empirical numbers.
Empirical numbers say that over 1 million people have illegally entered the US between November 2023 and January 2024, all crossing the southern border.
There is always much to be gained when playing sandbox politics, and that's what the Republicans are doing. If they had passed the bill in Congress and something had been finally done, they can't continue to use the issue in order to make Trump more attractive to voters in 2024, and because people have the attention spans of Golden Retrievers, they're not smart enough to see that that's exactly what's happening here. This piece just elucidated that and it went over your head too, judging from your comment.
If they wanted to fix the border it could have been done several times over since 2007, but politicians will always want to add their pork into bills, both left and right, because they honestly don't care about us.
Are they just going to let China end our freedom?!??
@@PETERFERRER-x5h The pork helps get bills passed. It wasn’t the pork that killed this bill it was Trump.
You’re describing Congress.
Literally Ukraine is getting almost 3 times the border 😂😂
It's so sad to see politics hindering progress 😔
gween new steal
Money for lots of weapons to foreign country's in exchange to sub par border security.
Nothing to do with progress.
( anti Biden but so called inflation reduction was a good thing)
Yeah. Nothing should be slowing up deportations of anyone here illegally. What Bidens done to our country and citizens is disgusting
Невежество тормозит прогресс.
Trump said no it's not rocket science here
It was a bad bill. Biden already has the discretion to do a lot of things. He reversed many of Trump’s policies.
This video is nice but I agree. It's not difficult to understand why the immigration bill failed
@@Atrail_Mckinley4786 so trump can campaign on it. Not that difficult
Also why they ties the border to ukraine?
@Saiputera Because Republicans refused to allow funding for Israel and Ukraine unless there was a bill on Immigration. Ironically despite the Immigration bill failing, the senate passed Ukraine/Israel aid. I can't stand the hypocrisy of the republican party
What a horrible video. Completely failed to mention the very valid reason the bill was rejected ie the normalizing of nearly 2 million illegal immigrants a year into the country
118 Billion but only 20 billion goes to the border. "border bill". lol
it's affect on the border is measured in more than just money, it expadited review and gave the preident new powers to close the border
@@grimaffiliations3671 I see
We all know that government funding solves problems of course. I mean border patrol funding was zero 100 years ago and now it’s infinity. What has border patrol accomplished in 100 years?
@@grimaffiliations3671did it give him the power to keep the border open? Phrasing is everything here.
@@BravoRox ?
The five thousand a day was a non starter and anyone who says otherwise is misconstruing the position of conservatives
Yep and the video totally didn’t mention any of that
lol get a job
because 50k is better
@@Jake-pf4kv zero is best
You don't understand the bill. 5K/day is the maximum number of people who will be given asylum hearings, not the number of people who will actually be allowed into the country. Most asylum claims are rejected after they are heard, the problem currently is that we don't have the capacity to hear them all, so people stay in the country while they wait for their hearing, which can take months or years.
Also, 5k/day is FAR lower than the current limit, because as it stands, there is NO LIMIT, meaning literally anyone who comes to the border is legally entitled to a hearing, which is the whole reason we have such a huge backlog in the first place.
The bill sucks. 60.06 billion to Ukraine, 14.1 billion to Israel and 10 billion for Gaza.
Asylum + workpremit for 5000 illegals immigrants per day….
Is it 5000 per day or week? I'm not saying it's a good bill. Just trying to make sense of it.
I was trying to find in the bill where it gives money to other nations, where does it say that?
1:38 what? trump tried to pass a bill that gave citizenship to undocumented immigrants who came as children? that's new to me
Yes. Trump has always only cared about power not policy. When he first entered politics he tried it as a moderate. When that didn't work he rebranded as hyper right wing.
😂😂 " The bill wasn't reached ... Because Dems wouldn't let him have his Wall
We HAVE border laws. They are not enforced. New law isn’t the issue. Enforcement is.
BINGO !!!!
Facts!
We don’t have any that are in place and obviously they aren’t working even under trump .
Ok well the US a Los has outdated immigration laws that need to be reformed to offer paths for legal immigration.
@@rodolfogarcia_1 There is nothing wrong with the current immigration laws
why don't send those illegal immigrant to Ukraine，Ukraine need muscles.
TL:DR It didn’t go through because trump wanted to campaign on that issue. He put his own interests over the country’s.
preach
Wake up people. This was not a border bill. It was a Ukraine and Israel bill that had no intention of undoing or stopping the damage that Biden has already caused by letting millions of people in per year.
Trump priorities:
1) Trump
2) Party
3) Russia
4) America
@@badluck5647it was a bad bill to begin with. Biden already has a lot of discretion. For 3 years he did nothing but reversing policies of previous administration that actually worked.
@@badluck56474 years of Trump as president there was No War's in Ukraine or Israel Gaza also No border crisis
Much bigger problem is that military help to Ukraine is frozen due to Republicans. If Ukraine fails against russia US will soon need to send its troops to Europe again. So its much cheaper to spend 6% of military budget now then fighting against soviets
Western Europe has plenty of money and resources for Ukraine and we need to focus on our own border.
@@jerrymiller9039 for your knowledge you are not giving money to Ukraine, you are paying to american weapon companies for replacing old rusty trash from junk yards which costs millions to recycle otherwise. But Trump and Fix won't tell you that.
And no fence will help you on the border as well, there always be ways to come in.
You should be grateful for the cheap labor though you have
@@jerrymiller9039 Not at the moment, even with our help Ukraine is low on 155mm ammunition that it needs for its’ artillery. It will take some time to build more facilities that are required to meet the demand.
Then the Europeans can do what we have been doing and buy it for them such as we have bought it from South Korea. @@DoubleGoon
It would be a Germany issue, not the USA!
Don't forget where is the Russia!
One word - TRUMP.
Simple!!!!!!
Weak reporting from a Murdoch owned paper. Misbehavior on both sides ? Really???
The issue with this bill is that NO ONE tells the people what the big sum of money is comprised of.
20+ billion goes to border protection (which is the biggest investment in U.S. history, in border protection).
The amounts going to Ukraine, Israel and S.A. Asia (Philipines, Taiwan etc.) is comprised not of MONEY, but ARMS.
Arms with expiration dates.
No one explains that most ammunition has chemicals which expire, and they need to be replaced (normally, they would be dismantled (WHICH COSTS ACTUAL TAX MONEY)).
Explosives, rocket/missile fuels are chemical components with expiration dates. Some arms have gasses which leak. Some arms have chemical paints which expire.
Even artillery rounds and some types of bullets (you know your 2nd ammenments right...???) expire. When they expire, they can be unreliable and even cause friendly casualties.
So they give these ammunitions and equipment to allies (Like Ukraine and Israel). They go into the books as "sums of money" (which they are not).
Media and politicians are as dumb as the population.
They keep them dumb even. Inform the people.
Problem solved.
My understanding from the bill it was just a way to say they handled the border when they really didn’t and just gave more money for processing adult immigrants. If a young man claimed to be under 17 he was counted as a minor and not included in the numbers. It’s like saying you solved child abuse by eliminating the age of consent. I read other criticisms of the bill. This report seems to skip all of them. I thought WSJ was a conservative news source not even one item that show some flaws in this bill. They also initially tied billions of more aid to Ukraine. They submitted a bill they knew republicans wouldn’t pass just to say the republicans are the problem.
Bingo
I like the lady being interviewed.. very neutral and logical about the action on both sides.
Surely you are being sarcastic
what did she say that was false?
Sarcasm lol
I actually was looking to find the bill by name H.R.815.
Am i wrong that is the bills name? i wanted to read the full bill. does it get removed if the bill is not passed?
There's H.R.2 - Secure the Border Act of 2023 and S.4361 - Border Act of 2024 from what i could find
Trump would build a beautiful huge wall and the best part about it is that mexico would pah for it
Interesting wsj doesnt know the difference between congress and Republicans. Pretty sus
What is the point of passing border legislation while we still have sanctuary states? If democrats were at all serious about the issue, sanctuary cities and states wouldn't exist. If the democrats were truly interested in border security, they wouldn't be engaging in a catch and release policy. It is difficult to get into this country legally and it should be. It is a simple way to measure each individuals capacity to do well in our country. If a person can make it through our process, they have a far greater chance of succeeding in our society, without a lot of hand holding. And illegal immigration should be met with zero tolerance. There is no reason to sneak in.
So a legit comment will get blocked off the 'Top' tab comments page, but all of these nonsense comments will get through and litter the page!
Idk what "AMZPKK" is, but just throw that in your comment somewhere, that seems to get through
Report the spam it’s the top selection for the report tab. If enough people report UA-cam will take a closer look.
If you watched this video close to release, spam bots are pretty much a guarantee. Idk why UA-cam is so bad at targeting spam, especially since many of the accounts have one common word they use for promotion. Like, why not just blacklist AMZPKK??
I’m convinced our congress is incapable of accomplishing anything or worth.
Narrator is annoying. It's like she's trying to whisper sweet nothings.
Republicans got a great deal but rejected it because it’s the only policy they know how to run on. Fixing the issue would mean they would have to have some other policy to run on, that’s a lot of work. Easier to keep rehashing the same issue for decades.
If or when Ukraine falls and Russia continues to on its war economy footing we’ll remember who stop the flow of weapons to Ukraine. Unfortunately those people won’t be drafted to fight when Article 5 of NATO is enacted.
The funny thing is this wouldn’t fix the issue, so they could still run on it and they’d be supporting Ukraine.
@@DoubleGoon it would certainly have done a lot
@@grimaffiliations3671 For better or worse, but Republicans would be getting most of what they wanted from the bill that they co-wrote.
Great deal? Baw haw hah ha hahah
Every Country has the right to denied anyone from entering their country.
Accept the unforgiving truth.
New laws aren’t necessary, that’s why. The Executive just have to enforce the laws already in place
border agents disagree with you, the lws are the problem
@@grimaffiliations3671
Funny they didn't disagree 4 years ago. DOhhhhhh!
Border Patrol Union has itself ENDORSED the Bipartisan Deals. Why? Because the largest chunk of $ goes to hiring and training new border patrol agents, more judges to process or deny claims, etc. Which is also more JOBS right? Plus, it includes High Tech security much better than a wall i.e. drones buzzing around all over, heat sensor, and all sorts of gadgets.
But no, Trump and other hardliners want the problem to remain for their election.....
Ya no, Immigration is just at an all time high all over the world right now, they need a bill to be able to deal with it. Executed powers only do so much
Texas needs to bus all their new migrants to DC.
This wasn't one sided at all........geez
It had no chance of even getting a vote or passing the House to begin with.
cus trump needs something to campaign on
@@grimaffiliations3671 No cause it was a bad bill,
Deranged Trump Syndrome much?
@@dragonage2112bad how?
The problem isn't border legislation but border enforcement. The executive branch isn't doing its job.
Target = missed. 👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼
Talk about a biased video !
No more money for Ukraine
Wff is this reporting? Nothing concrete.
Still No news. on u.s old immigration reform. Congress must use your neck! to see back problem and solve LEGAL immigrant obstacles and Clear NVC backlog All visas + diversity visa Decision making backlog.
Because a bill focused on the border shouldn’t have ANY money going to Ukraine. That’s why.
Oh, No! Don't cut off the flow of future Dem Marxist voters. Even if it destroys the country, bring them in.
The major difference is Ukraine
It failed because it’s a bill playing the bill disguised as another bill. Mostly pork for some other country and not U.S. border
people deserve what they elected
Moving jurisdiction of the border to the dc circuit was a poison pill. No one who favors enforcing immigration laws could stand that provision.
What are talking about? This bill would’ve moved asylum claims out of the hands of the courts away from the lawyers and into the hands of “asylum officers” with the directive to only grant asylum to those who can provide “clear and convincing” proof that there’s a credible fear of persecution.
It’s crazy how no one understands that is such an unfair for red states, they find that to be a horrible part of the bill.
@@Will50801 Half the border states are blue
@@DoubleGoonany claims or disputes regarding this law would be adjudicated by the DC circuit. That means when the left wing extremists file their lawsuits over the provisions in the bill it would be left wing judges in DC deciding as opposed to the fifth circuit which is located in the region where the people who are actually affected by the dysfunction live.
@@SC-rc4rs legal challenges about expedited deportation (which the law would've allowed) are already required to be filed in the dc circuit. The bill would've changed nothing about how Texas can sue over this or other border issues or what the state can challenge in court
"Why don't Republicans like the bill?" "Donald Trump told them not to like it." Great analysis Sherlock, I'm sure there's no other reason.
Please read the bill. How is 5k cap encounters open border?
@@tuotuolu2805👈they are not enforcing the laws as written now, what makes you think they would enforce the laws in the senate bill?
@@Semper_Iratus the measures that Trump used during the pandemic can only be used during a state of emergency. The supreme Court shut those down because they don't think that the country is in a state of emergency that requires giving the president that level of power to over rule Congress. This bill comes from Congress, therefore ties both the hands of the president and the supreme Court.
This is the reason. And then there are excuses on top of it to hide the reason.
@@Semper_Iratus By that logic, why pass any bill? why even show up to work?
Trump 2024
In an interview of President G W Bush on Jimmy Kimmel, President Bush proposed most of the items contained in the bipartisan bill !!
Multi-issue bills? A bad idea.
it was a republican idea
Close the border now!!!!
Traitors. You care nothing for the union as you put politics over country. Pass the bills, get it done.
Here's the new bill, ban all new entries till we can figure out the economy, infrastructure and drugs problem, reopen borders after problems are fixed with new regulations in place
eocnomy's doing well, we passed an infrastructure bill for the first time in decades, and most of the fentenyl gets smuggled in by citizens
I like how the conservative WSJ is trying to twist and hide the fact that the democratic were ready to agree to republican demands but trump shut it down because he wanted to campaign on it 😂
they literally mentioned it in the vid..........?
Your comment would only make sense if Trump's policy is the same as the border bill but it is not. The current situation is one where the federal government took texas to the supreme court because texas was stopping the feds from letting millions of illegals into the country. The feds were literally cutting the barbed wire to help people get in. Then the demoncrats came up with a rubbish bill that refuses to properly solve the problem that Biden is creating. And you expect Trump to just accept that and then not campaign on fixing this mess? That doesn't make any sense. Its like if you burn down my house and then you try to compensate me by buying me a lego house. Then when I refuse your offer and sue your for damages, you laugh and tell the judge that you were ready to agree to buy me a lego house and then I "shut it down" because I wanted to sue over it.
@@nathankoon7749 it was a bad bill to begin with. Biden already has a lot of discretion. For 3 years he did nothing but reversing policies of previous administration that actually worked.
That was the main topic of the video. What are you talking about
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
Our political system does not work
How exactly does "good faith effort on border bill" = "give tens of billions to ukraine and israel"
@@victoneter There are no compromising with Communists.
Republicans were apposed to it as a stand alone bill too
@@grimaffiliations3671 Do you even know the full story? Biden is letting almost 3 million illegals in per year which is like 5 times as much as Obama's worst years. And the feds are literally suing Texas for trying to close the border. This bill still allows millions of people to enter even if the feds take it seriously, which we know they won't. It doesn't solve the problem. The problem is Biden and nobody is interested in going along with this scam to make it look like Biden is trying to solve the problem that he deliberately created.
Party First and Always. Politicos, the bane of society.
Why dosent he pass his own bill, it just makes sense to pass something for now.
Are you talking about speaker Johnson? The house passed HR 2 over 200 days ago and the Senate won't even debate it.
Trump had the house and the senate in 2016 He could have passed that bill. Instead he chose to pass tax cuts for the rich. Both parties feign caring. Corporations love cheap labor.
@@commonsensenotsocommon840 Great...we should probably focus on the present. I mean JFK should have seen this coming and passed something in '62 right?
@@blnunya6689 HR2 is a partisan bill by a slim majority in the house. Pushed by the far right part of that party. Do you think that would even have a chance to pass the senate then signed by the president. The latest bill was the best chance of actually doing something. Don’t you think something is better than nothing?
@@commonsensenotsocommon840 No I think a bill that actually does something at the border as opposed to just continuing the status qou is what needs to happen.
The USA must export either Social Democracy or Social Christianity to the countries of origin of immigrants in order to improve conditions in their countries; thus reducing immigration and pressure unto US borders. The destruction of the welfare state and public services in Latin American countries like Honduras by neoliberal elitist "democracy" is precisely what pushes Latinos to leave their countries. The United States of North America, jointly with Latin American and Caribbean countries, should promote the creation of a Catholic Social Democratic Party in each country. Otherwise, the immigration nightmare won't stop.
Don't the bills pay billions to other countries and fund anti-China news along with other random things not associated to infrastructure?
I think it fell apart as no one gave the politicians cash in unmarked currency in a brown paper bag. If this would have happened with more cash than the cartels are giving politicians, I bet it would have passed.
Have even watched the video? It was trump who shut it down because he wanted to campaign on it for the presidency.
The Mexican cartels aren't giving American politicians bags of money. You're thinking of American agricultural companies. When any state manages to pass effective immigration enforcement (e.g. mandating eVerify), big Ag hurts.
Cartels need weapons. And they got weapons. Wanna know how?
because 60 billion went to Ukraine
Your parents once played as cousins, yes?
@@AMNG1994 up yours
Biden had years to solve this. Now he blames Trump. Sick
When will WSJ report actual news instead of reporting for one side
As long as they report on the truth when it comes to Trump his supporters will always say this.
You might notice the lack of similar comments when WSJ reports on Democrats’ failures.
@@DoubleGoon not a supporter of either, I can just call a biased view out when I see one
How is it bias?
Silence
@@DoubleGoon you have 62 comments on this channel that have heavy bias and opinion leaning to one side like the channel itself. It would be a big waste of time I don’t have to offer you anymore comments but here I am. Get a life
How about we actually take care of our own country instead of another. I understand helping with Ukraine's fight but not over our own borders and our own country. Atleast give the border money on par with our foreign aid, that is just being burned through faster than we can print them
Stop funding Illegals and fostering crime .... protect the American citizens ... politics work for the American people FIRST!!
why? senate reducing bill amout of weapons supply to ukraine
At no point does this video discuss the contents of any of these bills. Instead, it blames "republicans" and their base.
That is the cause, yes.
Well you can’t really deny that is not the cause. That was literally what the extreme wing of GOP wanted, and they got it, and now when it was looking like it will give Dems a head up, they killed it, mostly under the direction of Trump
Republicans wanted an issue to scream about during the election. Simple. There is no need to do a deep dive on a dead bill.
@@AI-xs4fp it omits relevant context. For example, if a hypothetical immigration bill allocated funds for a pedophilia network and on that account Republicans rejected it and WSJ reports that Republicans are inconsistent or like "the dog that caught the car" bc the issue is "toxic" to their base without ever discussing the application of funds to pedophilia (hypothetical for arguments sake).
I mean, that's just unprofessional, amateurish journalism.
@@AI-xs4fpno it is not lol😂
Bc republicans pledge allegiance to Trump.
Another Putin win
Blackpink "Shut Down" ft. Daniel Lozakovich - Le Gala des Pièces Jaunes
Not much to this long piece. The Senate bill was an open borders bill that would have allowed for mass amnesty. You can be sure if Schumer and Murphy are for it, it is bad for the American worker.
😂 you should buy trumps new golden shoes. They’re a great deal.
Bow down to your orange god.
Boarder patrol Unions(people who actually protect the boarder) are for it so stop lying to yourself
Bots, so many bots. This has been reposted by multiple accounts.
BLACKPINK - ‘Shut Down’ M/V
It wasn't a border bill.
customs and boarder protection unions (who actually work to protect the US boarder) and the conservative WSJ are for it so stop lying to yourself.
Trump told you that?
the downvotes
proposed a draft law on the border and with aid to Ukraine - it was rejected. proposed a draft law on the border without assistance for Ukrainians - it was also rejected. so what do you need trump? presidency?
I hate when people say things like this. Tell the full story. The one where Biden took the number of illegal immigrant arrivals from 400k per year (which is already too high!) to 2+ million per year and then the corrupt leaders of each party came up with a bill that did nothing to fix the problem that we've wanted fixed! Its not enough to remove the aid. The problem that Biden caused needs to be fixed.
You're very confused!
@@dragonage2112 funny
What does Biden mean, "it's only not secure because of trump"? I thought he said it was secure about a million times.
Biden is a joke period don't get me started!
Unbiased as always ( Sarcasm)
Not pro-Trump means “biased” to Trump supporters.
It was true tho.
NO AID for Ukraine! Do a border only bill!
No
AKA The Amnesty and Foreign Money Laundering Bill
This is one of the many reasons I will not vote for Trump... He just cares what helps him politicaly not what is actually good for our country... Haley 2024!
"border bill"...
Kids in cages to Maga was a BORDER DEAL!
The people risking everything and begging to be part of a country are looked down on by those who routinely state that they would leave the same country if they don't get their way on topics that consistently remove rights away from the citizens of, again, the same country that prides itself on freedom.
A nice way saying people commiting crimes for a pay rise.
@@sagunsingh7415 don't you think it would be easier to get a pay raise in your own country than it would be to try illegally work in a country known for treating migrants like dirt. The whole premise of migration is to start fresh in a land that isn't dangerous. They're not doctors trying to bump up their salary, they're people willing to get a chance to live in a new place even if they can bring anything with them.
@@sagunsingh7415 the minimum wage in the US is horrible. Worse for migrants. Plus the cost of living is way higher than any south american country. Those who feel safe and valuable in their home stay there. Those with nothing left to lose choose to risk everything on the chance to disappear in an unknown land.
Imagine breaking laws to enter a country and then the people of said country are upset you broke their laws seem super crazy and totally not normal.
@@Isaac-eh6uu imagine feeling like your country and living situation is so bad that you would do anything to seek refuge in the "land of opportunities" or "the freest nation"
The bill is garbage. That’s why.
Sad the universal language is now gun fire ⛮
Why are random people poruing across the border? Why can't we just take our military (which we spend almost $1trillion on) and make those troops protect the border?
The Posse Comitatus Act. Legally they can’t unless directed by Congress or there’s a declared national emergency by the President in which he can order federal troops to respond to the national emergency.
However, the National Guard, while they’re under the direction of their state can perform law enforcement duties and often are deployed by border states to bolster border security.
Still the federal military provides logistical support to the Border Patrol, ICE and U.S. Coast Guard.
Not even American 👀
@@DoubleGoon well, I believe the president should declare a national emergency, as people are literally dying everyday from the drugs pouring over the southern border
@@James-9999 I live on America I'm from an immigrant family
Спасибо за охрану и помощь мне
Thanks for the clarification
Wall Street Journal has turned into hot politically motivated garbage.
The US needs a complete replacement of all sitting politicians, from POTUS all the way down to school board members. 100% reboot. Changing a few faces at the podiums every couple of years is a practice in futility.
Like term limits for the House & Senate,
it will never happen.
Voting = term limits. And whom do you replace these terrible politicians with? More of the same. And Carlin has a great bit on this.
'If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.'
George Carlin
"The people of the US are so ignorant and selfish there had to be stoplights installed at the end of freeway onramps"
SVJoe
We need Nick Fuentes in office indefinitely.
Term Limits
The system is the problem. Doesn't matter who's in power.
When ever conversations is R or D
It wont move forward D have supported a closed border and R have advocated for eased immigration.
Deal with the issue and not play teams.
There's even a new one called "Securing Borders & Democracy" in the House right now. Why doesn't Johnson take up Bipartisan* Problem Solver Caucus Bill ??
Democracy is the new code word for marxism.
Trump has only one goal now: Please Putin by depriving Ukrainians of defenses to bleeding.
Delusion much?
Biden Blaming Trump for the Border being unsecure is just gold
Biden is a shameless liar.
Why didn't trump fix it when he was in office with a republican congressional majority? Same reason Republicans will vote against a bill with everything they previously asked for. They want the border problem to be eternal -- its all theater to whip up conservative voters
If his cult blok the news law and is fonding, I agree it gold Trump don't really care for the border
I'm not a Trump fan but I thought that was pretty funny
FJB FJB FJB FJB FJB FJB
You lacked to mention that the reason that the Republican Party voted against this bill is bc the majority of the money for this bill was to go to Ukraine and the bill was named immigration bill.
time and time again they eventually keep voting yes to ukraine aid. So they are still going to allow foreign aid on top of getting nothing for it. A huge failure on the Republican's part.
Wasn't that literally the deal though? Tougher border politics (negotiated by a Republican, with democrats relenting on almost every points) for more Ukraine support funds? Or did Republicans forget that a deal goes both ways? Or could it be that someone told them not to vote for it?
Republicans refused Ukraine funding without a border plan, so the border plan was negotiated and added, then they refused it. *cue Curb your Enthusiasm music
@@florgamarydemocrats added the border funding to get their Ukraine funding. That's how bipartisanship works. But REPUBLICANS shot down the bill.
The two should never be attached in the same bill wtf@@krashme997
It fell apart because it made the border crisis worse not better.
It’s what Republicans drafted and wanted. It failed because Trump was against it.