The scariest fact to me is the Itachi we know has a very "chill" temperament as far as Uchiha go. He had next to no personal drive to be stronger or to fight he was simply forced to do so. Like taking over a family business he was good at, but had no interest in. Imagine if he picked up EMS via someone had killed Sasuke and he became as bloodthirsty battle hungry as Madara.
He could have started the series with an EMS from his father, Fugaku, who had an MS. I don't think anything is stopping itachi from stealing his eyes and merging them with his own MS
I believe that it is one of his greatest strengths that he does not let himself be guided and blinded by emotions in battle, but always keeps a cool head and analyzes situations soberly.
Okay so idk if there's any proof for this it kinda just came to mind, so what if when a ems is awoken the abilities are fused together, so like Sasukes ametarasu was enhanced by itachi's tsukuyomi and thus he also gained the ability to use ametarasu in both eyes because itachi and Sasuke had different eyes for the same ability, idk just came to mind
itachi being forced into his role as a fighter without personal drive is indeed a scary thought. If he had picked up EMS and became as bloodthirsty as Madara, the consequences would have been devastating.
It’s crazy that without Itachi the alliance would have lost, because Nagato and Itachi were about to beat Naruto and B but then when Itachi broke out, beat Nagato and then wiped out the edo army.
We can assume that, but we also can assume they figure it out and made it a better fight! Also it would have been nice to see shisui eye showing up when Sasuke and Naruto first meet up again near the end
Get real lmao… Naruto and Bee weren’t even trying. They were having a damn conversation. You think Sage Mode naruto can bang pain up but KCM naruto can’t fuck nagato up? That’s some stupid logic. Raikage, Bee, Tsunade, they all giving nagato and Itachi serious beatdowns Remember Raikage with Ohnoki’s Jutsu smashed MADARA’S susanoo. Tsunade did the same with raw power. The five Kage can take the two of them on mid difficulty. Especially since Itachi won’t be using his 300 IQ (since he won’t truly be trying to win, just edo tensei autopilot)
@@maalikserebryakovitachis Susanno shield reflects all ninjutsu, Ti jutsu and all other jutsus. Tsunade and raikage and bee would be fucked. They destroyed sussanos that were split 25 ways strength wise as well. Easy diff for edo itachi and nagato
@@maalikserebryakovNagato used Preta path and Ashura path to hold Bee and Naruto in place while he sucked on their chakra,they would of been dead without Itachi interference,if Itachi didn't break out of the control they would be even more screwed.
Itachi is the goat EDIT: Tsukuyomi is basically the genjutsu version of creation of all things. and i think itachi could if he wanted to have awoken sasukes ms.
I love that he is a peace keeper, not wanting to hurt others which is where he gets his primary fighting style of using genjutsu to break the opponents spirit, demoralizing them from fighting.
In my opinion Itachi is one of the most Unique, Authentic and Influential characters from the series. The thing that people underestimate about Itachi fights/encounters, isn't just his power, (it's mainly writters or Kishimoto's fault for making Itachi seem or to look very powerful throughout the series) but how smart and intelligent he is during various situations, he never, ever underestimates his opponents because of his composure and his way of being, the level of thinking he's on honestly dwars most people in the series, with only people like Minato and Shikaku comparable with him. More precisly, Itachi isn't just any ordinary Shinobi also, he pretty much knows and he's also aware that all strong opponents have weaknesses (including himself), and he specializes in finding those "weaknesses" and exploiting them ("*Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness*" - Uchiha Itachi) because he's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. Itachi is very unique and authentic, especially in the factor of facing various encounters approach, his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach it's his key factor in all of his encounters. Being blind or nearly blind has never slowed him down (especially when he's pretty much serious, but that's the point, he has never go all out against anyone during the series.) Itachi it's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto). Moral of the story, never underestimate Itachi. He did more sick than most healthy ninjas do in their entire life. In my opinion No One should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). Also how can some of you guys even consider that Totsuka Blade it's slow when no such speed feat has been shown through the Shippuden that state it that it is slow? All of you are assuming it to be slow it may not be the case... Its not that the sword is unavoidable but it clearly has a very long range and is a very long blade. If you look at the manga, Naruto, Bee and Itachi are all relatively small from Nagato's point of view, and you can see the Totsuka Blade extending all the way from Itachi, piercing through Nagato, and still managing to nearly pop out toward the reader out of the page. I would say its fast because Kabuto coudldn't even react to it, and its not like Nagato was completely immobile to the point that he couldn't sidestep the blade. Also, Kabuto controlling people from far away is never stated to inhibit the Edos' reaction speed in any way. Being controlled by someone thousands of miles away didn't stop the Third Raikage from dodging KCM Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And as for Orochimaru, the sword struck him in between syllables of a word during his speech. I think that that is pretty fast. Pair the Totuska Blade with a good feint and its lethal because its ethereal, meaning it can pierce through any object. If the sword didn't live up to its reputation then Orochimaru wouldn't seek it out. People need to stop downplaying Itachi and denying the very clear speed feats of Totsuka. There is no room for interpretations here. The advantage of being an Uchiha, especially for Itachi and Madara, is that during an encounter against them, they always have a counter because of their unpredictable way of fighting factor, they don't run out of options or techniques, they almost always have a counter in their arsenal, even forbidden jutsus seems irrellevant against them, only a few Uchihas know a certain way to approach the situation with a certain and effective technique, that's why is hard/difficult to fight against them in my opinion. ☯️ 🤷🏻♂️ Here are the things that make Itachi so formidable. Tsukuyomi - A genjutsu so powerful that you literally can't escape it unless you have the same blood as Itachi, as stated by Itachi himself and proven later by Sasuke, or you're a jinchuriki. Jinchuriki are supposed to be immune to genjutsu but it hasn't been proven, but when Bee was fighting Edo Nagato and Itachi with Naruto, he said to watch out for Tsukuyomi explicitly. Literally 99% of all opponents fighting Itachi have no way of stopping Tsukuyomi. You could have the power to split the planet in half and it wouldn't matter. (Want to know why? - Kakashi pretty much state it in the actual anime and manga that Tsukuyomi it's such a dangerous Genjutsu Technique because it happen in a instant, even if you realize that you are trapped in the Tsukuyomi, it will be too late, because Itachi could approach you during that time in the real world (or he can use an Explosive Clone to approach you without you even realizing it in time and he can pretty much finish you before you can even realize, - 72 hours in Tsukuyomi realm means 1 second or a couple of seconds in the real world. Tsukuyomi can't be broken, when used to it's fullest.) The Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror - The Susanoo itself is a near invincible defense but these two weapons take it to the next step. The Sword of Totsuka can seal "anything" if it even touches it. It's completely OP. It's hard to fight a guy that can seal you away if his sword even touches you. The Yata Mirror is even a bigger deal in my opinion. It doesn't block attacks, it's "negates" them. You could throw an Amaterasu covered Bijuu bomb at Itachi and the Yata mirror will negate it, making it so the Susanoo doesn't even need to take a blow. You could punch the Yata mirror and the force will completely be negated. His biggest strength of all: tactical intelligence - Itachi always outsmarts and plans for everything because the plot demands it. You're physically strong? Itachi is already 2 steps ahead of you knowing exactly what to do. You're extremely fast? Again, 2 steps. You're going to try and outlast Itachi in a fight? Good luck. To add to this, some of the 3 most powerful techniques in the verse are due to his intelligence and planning ability; Izanami, Izanagi, and Kotoamatsukami. Izanami - A forbbiden genjutsu technique that allows you to alter someone's destiny. Impossible to break out of even if you know you're in a genjutsu without complying with the users set destiny for you. Even someone like Bee, a perfect Jinchuriki, can't escape Izanami unless he does what Itachi wants him to. Izanagi - You somehow gained an advantage over Itachi? He makes it so that advantage never happened. Kotoamatsukami - Though Shisui's technique, Itachi has his eye which effectively makes it his weapon. A genjutsu so powerful that the person it's cast on doesn't even know they're under a genjutsu. Like the Tsukuyomi, completely OP. To add to all of this, Itachi is pretty good at hand to hand combat, is great with shuriken, is extremely fast, is great with regular fire techniques, is slippery and unpredictable, and has the extremely dangerous and fast Genjutsu style of fighting approach that can caught you off guard almost at any time. With all of these things considered you've got one dangerous ninja. Lastly but not least Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story. When Itachi Uchiha awakened his Susano'o, he was seen wielding legendary weapons of the Totsuka Blade and the Yata Mirror. The former allowed Itachi to seal anyone he pierced in a world of genjutsu forever, while the latter gave him the ability to deflect any and all attacks thrown towards him, regardless of whether they were physical or spiritual in nature. According to Zetsu (who was around since the period of Kaguya time era until the present of Naruto) he state it in the anime and also in the manga that these weapons, when combined with his Susano'o, made Itachi Invincible. This is why Kishimoto basically had to give him a handicap: Naruto AIDS. 🤷🏻♂️ ☯️
@@script9096 basically he is saying that Itachi was written to be god tier unbeatable with the most broken abilities and given chakra disease to explain why he doesn't effortlessly solve the plot. As a review: -He has nearly unrivaled intelligence and speed so nobody can blitz or trick him. - instantaneous fire that burns anything forever. -The most powerful genjutsu that can kill you instantly with a look - Oh and the other most powerful genjutsu just chillin in his ravens head -A blade the seals anyone it touches -A shield that straight up negates all attacks -Not to mention the busted shit normal sharingan can do like straight up rewriting reality and the time stone thing Dr Strange did to Dormammu. Itachi is what happens when Kishimoto proactively makes a marry sue OC and anytime someone has the upper hand he write some more busted shit to explain why actually that wouldn't work on Itachi.
Itachi is like the strongest naruto character who did not use abilities/powers that wasn’t his own. Which includes sage mode, a tail beast and Hashirama cells, he got praise by both Founders, and Madara also said he would also get a eye of hypnotisim and insight like Itachi, who is the only character shown to have both
Kaguya, Sakura, Might guy? I think Kisame would lose to genjutsu but idk he might know some tricks thx to being Itachi partner. There's prob someone that I forgot about so I'll edit my comment if I remember someone
@@no_just_relax No way Itachi is stronger is than Light novel Sakura or even Boruto since she has even more time to store chakra so she can prob die like 200 times unless you want to say that it's Edo Itachi than ye but I don't think Itachi has any seal Jutsu so every fight with other Edo characters would be just a draw
@@izzycrybaby1164 With Samehada I think if would take 8 gates to kill him not just 7, Samehada is just addition to Kisame power there's a reason he's called the 0 tails beast
3:24: Oh, yes Mangekyo-Awakening via Genjutsu is something i often ponder. I always thought Genjutsu was tway it would go in Boruto with Sarada and all that but nah, the writing is just too abysmal!!
I think with the hyperbolic chamber scenario, if it was tied to his knowledge, if he figured out how to improve the rasengan, then he could implant that knowledge into Naruto making him believe he figured it out, then all he'd have to do in the real world is put the theory to practice, he wouldn't get it straight away but he'd definitely have a great head start.
Yeah I think Itachi could use tsukiyomi to train someone else in a skill he himself has already mastered. But to teach someone else a skill that Itachi doesn't already know, the illusion would have to perfectly simulate the laws of physics of the real world. And I don't think tsukiyomi has that level of "graphical fidelity."
Now I want to add to what you said but first I want to touch a theory nick hammer had which is . For itachi to be able to great a world so perfect that it can mimic real life itachi would need to understand the universe an he says its easier to create a world where you live out your life which is wrong why Tsukuyomi controls all 5 senses itachi an izumi lived a life time an had a child Itachi created a living organism yea he is god in tsukuyomi but would still need to have the knowledge in order to create things like the scent of hot asphalt that creates Mirage's on a hot day in order to create that you would have to understand the effects of heat on a asphalt surface an refraction of light ect to create a sunset over a lake you would have to understand reflection of light on water itachi had a vast knowledge an understanding if he didn't an created a flat earth then it would fail as that wouldn't hold up even in tsukuyomi you can't be stupid an use tsukuyomi then you would probably be able to use kakashi eye to open kamui dimension in tsukuyomi which makes no sense so if you are dumb an don't understand certain things then how can you use tsukuyomi to create something you don't understand so what I'm trying to say is that itachi intelligence so vast he's able to create almost anything perfectly he was even able to distinguish sage chakra when he met kabuto before saauke an saauke had ems so it goes to show how vast an resource full itachi is he literally created a world an controlled it for 2 people not 1 but 2 people . Now to add to your point itachi could go in tsukuyomi an use his knowledge on techniques eg. Flying raijin . create simulations an train for every outcome predictable based on how the technique is used an find counters . he literally as a genin taking the chunin exams used the knowledge of how the other genins were cheating an thought of counters an how to beat them based on the abilities they used to cheat doing that in tsukuyomi with the knowledge of how flying raijin is used an he has access to that as he was a anbu with classified information he could study abilities an train to beat it in tsukuyomi ect
the way he describes the second theory, the hyperbolic chamber one, sounds a lot like the dreams I sometimes I get. I will go to sleep some nights and feel like ive lived out several years, decades even, but its not the same.. its like jumping between the pages of a book your reading, you dont want to deal with the hard parts unless its part of the story you like. You can get married, have kids, be successful but most of the time their is no struggle, no concept of 'what if something goes wrong?" and that moment of it going wrong never actually happening. Sometimes I have to go through rough times in those dreams but i feel as though they wouldnt be as hard to deal with if it was in reality
@@ruppelspoopels I would agree but the side effects that itachi got from it would say different. I know he wasn’t trying to kill sasuke but he didn’t accept him to break out the tsukuyomi
@@Kianplayz89 itachi didn’t let him out he broke out that why he said you’ve gotten strong sasuke and itachi had side effects from him breaking out and as many times as we seen him use it that was the only time he was affected that way afterwards
This is why Kishimoto old ideas on how Madara was going to be beaten, one of them was with the aid of Itachi and know that one ability of his, yeah. Who can say otherwise on if could honestly work. Hell, it's easily a good explanation why Obito never tried to kill Itachi, maybe isn't entirely because he fears him, but the mixture of that and the practicality on killing him and what will be his loses afterwards. Because remember when Obito was in a specialized Genjustu and saw Itachi there, he says this, "No matter where I go, you're always a problem to me." Only to him. That legitimately means Itachi is arguably one of the few people Obito always had to think to work around Itachi's objectives. That's why he never talked to Sasuke even while hidden, because Itachi will always know and will do something about it and Obito knows this, he can't risk having Itachi going after him.
I wonder if itachi needs another person to activate tsukuyomi, or if he could just dive into it on his own at will. That would’ve been a game changer for him. He could literally just enter his own boundless dream world whenever he wants… I would get way too distracted, and probably depressed upon returning to reality 😂
@@justinarzola4584 I didn’t mean activating it for the first time. But more like, does he need to inflict it on somebody (kakashi, sasuke, naruto), or can he just turn it on and go in there by himself? I don’t think he’s ever mentioned doing that, nor have we seen it.
that would've been a game changer for itachi, being able to enter tsukuyomi on his own. It could have given him more control over his opponents. But yeah, returning to reality might be a bit of a downer after being in a boundless dream world.
Since he can do normal genjutsu quite well and the Sharingan just at a base level tells him how techniques work, he definitely has a good understanding of how other peoples chakra works, so he should at least be able to teach most people every jutsu he knows, and that must be quite a few by this point. He may not be able to help you make a new one, but short of that I can't think of any reason he wouldn't have a 99.99% success rate otherwise.
I think Itachi is almost like a perfect combination of the six path, two sons, but Morley, the brother with the Sharrigun eyes, except he’s not narcissist but he still want to do things alone becausehe believes with the power he has. He can do it by himself.
I think when it comes to the "hyperbolic time chamber training" aspect you could potentially increase your chakra reserves. Chakra is mental energy plus physical energy, so if your physical side outweighs your mental side, it could give you years of study and meditation to increase it. A bit niche perhaps, but better than nothing Lol I commented a few seconds too early in the video
I agree that Tsukuyomi wouldn’t be able to give someone an EMS, but I DO think you could take a regular Sharingan wielder and help them awaken a regular MS this way. They could even train with their MS inside Tsukuyomi without worrying about burning the MS out in the process.
I don't think the second part could happen unless you were placed in Tsukiyomi a second time. While I believe you could give someone an MS, the abilities you practice with in Tsukiyomi won't necessarily translate to the actual powers the MS has. There's no sense in mastering Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi in the genjutsu world if your actual MS ability is Kamui. So you'd have to be hit once, awaken the MS, be freed, experiment with the awakened abilities, then go back into Tsukiyomi to practice the abilities.
@@kyuubinaruto17 And even if you come back a second, time knowing your MS ability, Itachi won't know how it works. You will only experience your MS ability in Tsukiyomi how Itachi perceives it to work.
One satisfactory justification why this wouldn't work is that the person inside the genjutsu might lack the actual agency to choose to kill their loved one, so the brain states are actually different and the hypothetical important step to awaken the MS is not fulfilled.
I do believe that itachi could make someone awaken an MS since the reason Sasuke unlocked his Sharingan was because Itachi used Tsukuyomi on him to show him what happened so if it can make you unlock your Sharingan there is no reason for it not to work on the mangekyo, he also tried to make him awake his mangekyo when he used Tsukuyomi on him for the second time but Sasuke was already used to that trauma so it didn't work hence why something stronger was needed.
If Obito hadnt been there to witness Rins death with kakashi would only the left eye have unlocked MS? Or would Obito have gotten like a bluetooth notification that his MS had been unlocked remotely?
The Knowledge Problem behind the Hypertonic Lion Tamer approach to Tsukuyomi is an absolutely fascinating challenge to me. Basically what it amounts to is Itachi trying to be the author of a story where Naruto learns a lesson and grows stronger (like figuring out some new technique), where the only way to actually see real-world effects is if Naruto can achieve the same realization and power-boost *by only reading the script.* He can't simply write "Then Naruto learned a valuable lesson", because without living through the experience himself, Naruto can't recreate it after Tsukuyomi ends. But even if he writes out a plausible-seeming pathway towards gaining that power, if he misses just one key detail, it basically amounts to a plot hole, and trying to recreate those steps in reality would fail due to incomplete or inaccurate information. It's like trying to write a novel that doubles as a WikiHow, all without actually knowing how to do the task yourself in the first place. Really shows just how insane a task it really is in practice.
This is a comment I made in another thread: This doesn't mean that he can transfer knowledge he doesn't have. The fabricated situations can lack realistic details up to a certain level of precision, the person inside the genjutsu might become easier to fool (just like we typically don't realise we are dreaming), and creating a representation of something to fool someone (a simulacrum) doesn't require to replicate all of the information of the real thing. Even if someone can reinforce a skill by remembering what it felt like to practice that skill, developing the rasenshuriken from the rasengan is more than just reinforcement, it requires to learn novel things by trial-and-error in the world Although it is a good point, even if we assume the Tsukuyomi can't produce novel knowledge, it can trigger reinforcement based on the experiences of the caster and probably also on those of the victim.
@@didack1419 "the person inside the genjutsu might become easier to fool (just like we typically don't realise we are dreaming)" This rings very true for me. A while back I had developed a way I could tell I wasn't dreaming (just for fun, as a thought experiment), involving paying very close attention to details on things, like the rough texture of my wall. If I could just stop what I was doing and stare at a wall and see all sorts of clarity, I was pretty much safe to conclude I was truly awake. Then I had a dream where I got arrested for some offscreen crime, and as I was being carried off in handcuffs, I had the thought to try my little dream-detector trick. I decided that yes, I was really awake, that's not good.....and then I woke up not too long after. But I hadn't actually done the trick properly. I never actually saw or focused on any level of detail. I just skipped from step 1 to 3, having the idea to check, and then concluding that I was awake. I was, as you say, easier to fool while in that state. Thought it might be neat for you to see that there's direct evidence you're correct :D
@@riluna3695 (the idea that the person inside the Tsukuyomi thinks the situation they are living is reality itself is mentioned already in the video.) That's interesting, I saw that thing of skipping steps being referenced once to explain why some people have apparently felt like they experienced a lot of time in the dream, to the point of feeling like they have had a separate lifetime there. The account was of a real person that said they had experienced a dream in which at some point inside their dream they were suddenly told by a character on said dream that they were in fact dreaming, even though they didn't believe it themselves (!), and then to deny that they apparently tried to remember their past of said dream, at waking up it seems that they actually had the sensation that they indeed have remembered a separate lifetime of experiences. It's also interesting that the self was experiencing a dream but all of the sudden there was, seemingly, another part of their brains telling them that they were sleeping, something that they didn't know. Maybe/probably it wasn't another part of the brain being aware of the fact that the self was sleeping, and it's just a coincidence, but it's an interesting thought.
@@didack1419 Sounds a bit familiar. I've noticed that dreams can provide inherent understanding. Without any context clues or past experiences to go off of, you just KNOW a thing. While extreme, I would imagine "I've had an entire life of experiences" could qualify as that, especially if they can't actually remember more than a couple things FROM that life, if even any. I woke up from a dream once, years and years ago, and was astounded at the fact that I'd had that exact same dream once before, but I couldn't remember anything more than that. For years I thought I had had that dream twice and just mostly forgotten, until finally I had a completely different, and definitively NEW dream, wherein I knew for a fact that I'd had that same dream before. That broke the illusion and allowed me to see that "I've had this dream before" was PART of the dream, and was an untrue statement. Basically, the human brain is friggin' WEIRD, and it can outright lie to you at times, especially when it comes to dreams. And those lies can feel real and stick around for years.
since we're talking about things that SHOULD have happened, I think Orochimaru should have helped in training up karin to master all of her clan specific and individual abilities then took over her body ( in all its uzumaki glory) and then took over sasuke's body he could have made an Orochimaru clone ( via curse mark) and convinced sasuke that he'd killed him then joined taka ( pretending to be karin) then used the vantage point to earn his " trust" ( cuz at that time who did sasuke trust lol) then took over his body ( or did it sooner to make his life easier)
I would say just take Sasuke's eyes. He'd have an Uzumaki level Chakra pool that's large enough to handle the rennigan, his MS would be lethal, if not Madara level. Especially if it's after EMS
I feel like tsukiyomi has something to do with creation of all things jutsu. Like Tsukiyomi is so powerful because it's only yin release of creation of alll things jutsu so Itachi's Tsukiyomi is reflective of his imagination/knowledge (like Nick said) because it's only yin release, but if he could add yang release, it would become real like the realm of drunken dreams. Which he achieves in his last fight. At least, that's how i understood it
So Tsukuyomi causes the target to form new memories while under it’s influence, including personal realisations. This means that characters undergo neurogenesis, forming new neurological connections form in their brain. It sounds like Tsukuyomi is Yin Yang release
Are we going to ignore the incredibly maniacal idea of paralyzing the Abarame bugs under a genjutsu while keeping Yoji sentient and then burning him alive? This does lead to something g I’ve always wondered about Amaterasu. Can the caster control the intensity of the flames? By intensity could the caster make a candle flame that wouldn’t burn the wick? Could they create a campfire with the heat of a candle? Could you make a candle flame create the heat of a bonfire?
Im not 100% sure but i know itachi doesn’t have control over the shape of the flames like sasuke does. But a part of me doesn’t doubt his ability to do so.
@@19162205 sasuke can control the flame and direct them where he wants them to go. If he wants you on fire and you dodge, Itachi would miss where Sasuke would arc the flame to light you on fire. I’m more curious about intensity. Like is it always the same tempature or can you change the temp to fit your needs, like having a cooking fire or a fire that’s small but can heat an entire room in the winter. Could you lower the temperature to burn someone alive more slowly? Like burn them alive with the intensity of a cigarette lighter rather than a blow torch. Neither are huge flames but both burn at very different intensities and temperatures.
@@Dr.Octavius2.5 you misunderstand me. When Itachi paralyzed the bug he didn’t put Yoji under the genjutsu. This means he was fully aware of everything that was happening but could not breath or scream. When Itachi lights him on fire, he isn’t in a pocket reality but feeling his skin blister and sear while being unable to even let out the agony. If Itachi can choose the intensity for the fire, he could have burned away Yoji’s skin one layer at a time. He could have made Yoji’s death last hours rather than seconds. Imagine being paralyzed and forced to feel the sun cook your skin under there was nothing left. The agony of feeling your nerves firing off in pain over your entire body but being helpless to stop it. To me this is far more horrific then being tied to a stake and burned in a bonfire. That’s incredibly intense heat but would only last a few second before shock would set in and your nervous system would shut down.
maniacal indeed, As for Amaterasu, the caster cannot control the intensity of the flames, it's an all-consuming inferno that cannot be extinguished. So, no candle flames or campfires, just intense, unrelenting fire.
it makes sense the infinite tsukiyomi is just a wide range version using the moon as an " eye" snd it goes through objects hitting everyone who sees it/ hit by the moon light, but isn't directed but itatchi's is focused and directed.
Itachi's tsukiyomi already implies cause and effect, as long as it's realistic. You get the answer pretty quickly, when he puts Izumi under it. The story goes that they live a happy life, have a family and grow old together. Yet "it knows" the complexity that is reproduction. Sure, you could chalk that up to he knows how and where babies come from, but the background is something thats also completely frabicated. While yes hes understands the fundamentals, he's not planning out every minute detail in her tsukiyomi. Just the story the tsukiyomi knows the rest. So therefore, to train, all he would need to know is what youre trying to do, demostrate it, and what you want changed. We know that naruto chakra nature is wind, and he has many different variations of the rasengan. So, for it to work Itachi literally only needs to think of the trainign routine and him attempting to apply wind nature to it until he actually gets it right,if naruto wants any shape transformation added to it beforehand it also must be relayed. His tsukiyomi also operates on the same principal that the shadow clones do. It's the reason he learned rasenshuriken and a wind style rasengan to begin with. cause the knowledge they obtained is transfered back to them. A genjutsu works by disrubting chakra flow but chakra flow doesnt effect memory or any other parts of the body. the brain does. ITS ALSO a real thing where you trick your brain into believeing something is happening, and IT WILL replicate symptoms. So if he makes them learn something itll register in the brain it will form those connections as if had physically done it
This doesn't mean that he can transfer knowledge he doesn't have. The fabricated situations can lack realistic details up to a certain level of precision, the person inside the genjutsu might become easier to fool (just like we typically don't realise we are dreaming), and creating a representation of something to fool someone (a simulacrum) doesn't require to replicate all of the information of the real thing. Even if someone can reinforce a skill by remembering what it felt like to practice that skill, developing the rasenshuriken from the rasengan is more than just reinforcement, it requires to learn novel things by trial-and-error in the world Although it is a good point, even if we assume the Tsukuyomi can't produce novel knowledge, it can trigger reinforcement based on the experiences of the caster and probably also on those of the victim.
For the training in genjutsu theory, it has been proven true by Madara Uchiha. In his old age, Madara used genjutsu to train Obito for years in the illusion world while in the real world, only a few months had passed by. Afterwards, Obito fought on such a scale that he not only competed with the Minato, but had the world believe that he was Madara due to his level of skill. As for the MS theory, I believe it is also true to awaken the MS through genjutsu alone. You just have to have the one affected believe it is real long enough for them to awaken the MS and then afterwards you can let them know it was all fake. After that the genie is out of the bottle and it's not going back in. Even though it wasn't canon and if I'm not mistaken, I think it was Tsunade's Infinite Tsukuyomi Dream where this happened, Sasuke clashed with Naruto on a roof top and Itachi blocked Sasuke's attack with his body, which Sasuke believed that he had killed him, thus awakening his MS, but then later on we find out that Itachi used genjutsu, so Sasuke had now awakened MS and Itachi was still alive.
Random thought but before Kurama died why wasn't Naruto a Juubi Jinchuriki. Like of course the buff wouldn't be as strong was when Madara became the Juubi Jinchuriki but he could have still gotten an extra buff equal to when Obito became the Juubi Jinchuriki. I mean in boruto we see Jigen with a baby ten tails so why didn't the small parts of each tailed beast plus Kurama make a ten tailed beast? Maybe even the powers of all the other tailed beasts get absorbed by Kurama and give him an extra tail. Maybe I missed something but I feel like there is no reason this shouldn't have happened.
The other tailed beasts are only the chakra of the Ten tails. The Gedo statue is it's body and Madara/Obito were only able to become it jinchuruki after returning the chakra to the body. I can't remember if this is confirmed but I believe combining the chakra of all the tailed beasts is another way to obtain the chakra of the sage of Six Paths besides combining Indra and Asura. This I believe is part of why Naruto meets the sage before his resurrection, while Saskue receives an infusion of Hashirama cells and thus Asura's chakra to reach the same.
Its always been crazy to me how underrated Itachi is. He literally had to get nerfed multiple times and ultimately had to be removed from the story because of his potential. Definitely would have been one of the most powerful characters in the Naruto universe with out the sickness had he lived.
It's crazy we never saw him fight in his prime outside brief flashbacks when he was a kid,the fact he was only 18-21( what should of been his prime with no sickness) when he contracted that illness is also crazy to think about.
true, itachi's potential was immense and he had to be nerfed and removed from the story due to his overwhelming strength. Had he lived without the sickness, he could have been one of the most powerful characters in the Naruto universe.
@@pangoomb6781 I disagree with your first half, he is appropriately rated. I do however agree with your second half, Sakura is indeed underrated, the boys needed SoSP Chakra to damage Kaguya while Sakura just elbow dropped her to the ground!
...the hyperbolic time chamber one works quite well if l Itachi is the one who wants to train, the person he sends into it is his willing teacher, and he's not learning from nothing as knows something physically about what he's training. That would be fine i think...
You can kill someone with it. It happens instantly so you can’t break out of it. The Otsutsuki use a larger version of it to absorb the chakra of a world. Why was Kotoamatsukami considered the strongest genjutsu and not this? Especially when it has a huge cooldown. Maybe it only has a cooldown for other people but Shisui can spam it? That’s the only reason I can think of as to why it’s considered the strongest. That actually makes sense when you think about it. A dojutsu you are given isn’t nearly as strong as the original. We’ve only seen people who aren’t Shisui use it. After all, how would Shisui even know he had it if it took 10-20 years to recharge?
@@SubZer00fucksgivenI actually saw a lot of people comparing omnipotence to Koto and that kinda makes sense. Koto is brainwashing someone and Omnipotence is doing that on a massive scale. Maybe Koto is just a weaker version of omnipotence?
@@justinarzola4584 I still can’t believe Kakashi survived. He had to endure not just three days but three days that felt way slower so it was probably a lot longer than three days. He should’ve lost his mind if not died from shock. Even if Itachi was going easy on him that’s still ridiculous.
30:13 considering the fact that Itachi gave Izumi a whole life and vonvinced her that he loves her with the "blink of an eye" , shouldn´t she have awoken her MS in the moment befpre she died, what is a bigger emotion than the love of a whole life in a heartbeat?
theoretically I also believe he should be able to make people awake MS. My only problem with that theory is: how come Sasuke didnt wake his MS after, not one, but two times reliving his parents deaths. And since Itachi wanted Sasuke to awake MS, why not do it that way. Specially when they meet in inn's hallway: Sasuke alerady has a 2 tomoe sharingan, is on the verge of going rogue with hatred and Itachi makes him relive their parents deaths for 48 hours. Shouldn't that have made Sasuke awake an MS?
Sasuke didn't have a 3 tomoei sharingan either time he was put under tsukuyomi. I'm pretty sure you need to have all 3 before you can awaken MS. As for how sasuke didn't get his 3rd at the in... who knows
Maybe because sasuke didnt kill his parents himself? You need to feel responsible for someones death to unlock ms. And Itachi was the one to kill their parents so maybe thats why
It’s likely that despite his hatred for Itachi since he was a kid, deep down he still had love for him. Sasuke was able through the manifestation of hate to essentially create a smoke screen in order to convince himself that killing Itachi was the greatest thing he could do.
In actuality its because of retcon. Originally u had to kill your closest friend, but then kishimoto changed his mind about it later and now u just need to experience great emotional distress
He would be if he had more stamina. He has the most broken abilities. Give Boruto Itachi’s abilities and he’d be unstoppable. No need to learn a new rasengan. 😂
99% he loses to MANY Madara, Hashirama, Obito , Naruto, Sasuke, Pain/Nagato , Kakashi war arc 1ms(maybe), Guy, Tobirama, Prime Hiruzen(maybe) , Minato, Sage Kabuto(maybe)
9:22 actually ocular genjutsu works by pourinv your chakra into your opponents brain to control their senses. Its why its able to work on people and things without chakra networks
NICK please think this one over. It might change your mind about brothers obtaining EMS. I disagree with your statement saying that brothers couldn't just swap their MS eyes and both of them obtain the EMS. I think it actually could be possible.. the first reason being we've never seen it attempted. In madara's circumstance he took his Brother's eyes forcibly because he was totally blind from over using his own MS, and his brother was dying . Marada was greedy and power hungry. But he thought he would get a small amount of sight back.. but it went better than he had hoped for. He awoke EMS pretty much accidentally.. he knew his brother was also going blind, but because his brother wasn't totally blind he tooke the eyes to get his brothers remaining sight. So I don't think awakening EMS was intentional. Otherwise why didnt he take the eyes earlier. if they would have known about EMS before, i believe they absolutly would have tried a swap. Either they would both awaken it, or only one of them would have, either way Marada could still have stolen them or taken them whike his brother was dying. It wasnt written this way because 2 EMS users would have clapped the cheeks of the senju clan. And the story wouldnt have played out like it did. In the 2nd senerio, itachi and sauske fought their last battle before sauske even awakened his MS.. So itachi never had the chance to swap.. PLUS Itachi knew he was dying and basically planted the idea into sauske to take his eyes after their battle. Itachi may have known about EMS but never planned to follow through with taking sauske's eyes. Doing so wasn't going to cure him, he always wanted sauske to kill him. He always wanted sauske to take his eyes. So back to the original argument. What is stopping brothers from MS swapping? When you emplant new eyes, you exchange your original MS for another pair. And sense sauske isnt walking around with 4 eyes on his face, he had to have discarded his original eyes. Yes i agree that 4 eyes are required to unlock it, but he still throws away his original pair of MS. Also sense It doesnt matter how blind the doner eyes are, it works.. your sibling could swap with you no matter how damaged. We know the sharingan eyes dont lose their abilitys if they are taken out while the user is alive, we saw it with obito and kakashi. the abandoned eyes are still MS, and if preserved or implanted what is stopping this from unlocking EMS in a sibling. How dont you see this working? *side rant.. What's stopping sarada from getting her fathers original eyes, if they were preserved.. couldnt sarada get EMS?? This is a theroy ive seen floating around, but it reinforces my theroy.. and even if it never happens obito was a freak with hundreds of sharingan, so him saving sauske's eyes is not out of the question. Im 100% sure he did we just may never see them. However in this senerio wouldn't Sarada theoretically awaken EMS now that shes awakened her MS?* anyways back to the topic. All of this leads me to believe the 4 eye spirit thing that pops up when itachi says sauske has his spare eyes, and when sauske awakens his EMS, shows 2 things. 1. the pair of eyes that are already there are representing the MS awoken by the user, and 2. the empty sockets represent the MS that areneeded and eventually exchanged or acquired. Soooo theoretically with all this in mind, i dont see why brothers couldnt unlock EMS via a MS swap? I mean we haven't seen it tried, and it's not specifically stated to not work... it just didnt happen that way in the story, but I believe its absolutely doable. OP as heck, and probably enough to break the story which is why we will never see it. But doable. Seperate comment: Perhaps I missed it, so could you please tell me where or when it says the swap has to happen with an MS user who is also blood related? I thought this was an assumption people had because It just so happens that the only people confirmed to be EMS wielders got them from siblings. I just don't remember it being stated that way. I'm probably wrong. But it doesn't hurt to verify. THANKS FOR ALL THE WONDERFUL CONTENT NICK!
If this is true, then I'd argue that Itachi' Tsukuyomi is a *Yin-Yang Release styled Getjutsu that incorporates Space and Time. It's the only way you can explain the Tsukuyomi' area of effect, actual affects to the target and where the jutsu takes place. Itachi transports you to the Tsukuyomi pocket dimension, then he is free to do whatever he wants to to whomever. He basically becomes god in that dimension and it's crazy.
26:00 it's funny i was thinking of this from the start of the video. however, what he could do is pass on his knowledge to someone. it would increase their spiritual energy. therefore when they come back to reality they could train physically and then make up the difference. the best way would probs be spend a small amount of time in tsukuyomi imparting knowledge and meditation and the like. say a couple of days or less for all of a second of real time. this wont leave the physical body with the inate strain of tsukuyomi. then go physically train for a week. bonus points if you can use shadow clone spam. so you could make substantatial gains in short bursts with the right conditions. otherwise imparting too much knowledge over too much time would probably kill or put someone in a coma again.
Another great use is information conveyance, drill battle plans and tactical maneuvers into another person until they have them memorized. It wouldn't help them pull those things OFF necessarily, but people would immediately know what was meant when certain otherwise-unfamiliar formations and the like were called out by a field tactician.
about the time chamber thing, you know how (I don't know if its real, fake or otherwise) like you can Imagine working out and your body will respond to some degree building so muscle and such wouldn't that be triggered if you were in the Genjutsu? or just training to gain more chakra however that works, or developing new Jutsu because you can learn how to mold the chakra, similar to how Naruto used shadow clones? also wouldn't he have time to learn Naruto's limits and such? or talk to Orochimaru?
I love itachi as is and I love how they did the shisui thing knowing that watching the show second time around gives me chills when ever itachi uses an ability knowing thats actually a part of his best friend in thoes eyes
Itachi saying “you have my spare eyes” leads me to believe that yes the eyes need to be swapped. If it was indeed that they have to somehow merge eyeballs he would say “you have my other set of eyes” or second set of eyes.
Yo Idk if people want this or not but I would LOVE it if you did content on short format for the boruto manga spoilers as they come out, no one plots and theorizes like you dude. Would love those early comments on what seems to be going on before the actual video breaking down the chapter itself.
In the argument of tsukuyomi. Its basically heald to the rules of nerve gear in soa, which i believe should be a concern when such technologies get developed but ultimately, ur brain sends signals to ur organs to make the function, if the brain thinks it died, it would stop trying to run anything else...
It would make more sense if Sasuke had activated his sharingan when Itachi used Tsukiyomi on him. I mean, the guy saw his family cut down for days. How much stronger the emotional impact could be? If that didn’t happen, then EMS shouldn’t happen either. But, then, why it did not happen, i don’t know.
The hyperbolic time chamber situation could in theory allow someone to attain sage mode. Sage mode is something learned, it's something that you need to meditate on and find mental balance. It's purely about calmness in the spiritual sense. And Itachi does know about sage mode, he knows about Jiraiya, he's fought Jiraiya in sage mode. He knows about people who can gather nature chakra from the air, he knows almost everything about it but hasn't actually done the training himself. But he can give a place for someone to meditate for decades or centuries. Someone could in theory go there to meditate and come out a sage.
24:00 if you can't practice ninjutsu, then it sounds like you should still be able to train in taijutsu abd kenjustsu. But this only goes so far as technique as physical athleticism and stamina doesn't improve. But at the same time, this allows for relatively infinite stamina for such training as physical limitations don't have to apply.
Imagine if itachi trained naruto in regular hand to hand combat. Narutos basic combo of 1000 clones then slingshot themsleves at the enemy and hope something hits is a waste of chakra. Every fight, clones never land a hit. If naruto learned hand to hand combat at itach's level, then each clone would be so much more powerful. Since this isnt a physical feat, it should work. Recognizing attacks, using counter attacks and dodging, learning vital spots and learning combo attack, setting up a combo. All mental and thinking. Plus cause and effect is easy since itachi trained himself
Side point: I believe that the Uchihas brought back as villains is a strong idea. Just Madara was brought back by Obito which himself was an Uchiha as well in Naruto. It would cool to see them bring Itachi back under some Jutsu and having Sasuke, Sadara, and Bortuo dealing with this in some sort of way.
Hey Nick do something on that slit in the ground(logs looked to hold together) when Naruto was chasing Deidara. Looks like a cut in the earth from maybe a Susano sword...
For the training part one thing that I think could work would be to train someone to be on the same level as the caster in something. like say shirken Justu or tai Justu since its just getting someone to your level you would know how that training would feel and what it would take then if you train like that for long enough with the sensations you could possibly develop the muscle memory to reproduce the movements in the real world ….. so everyone being at anbu caption level of skill in itachis case
Dude, I must say, that I watch your content every single day. I appretiate you, and your love for anime reminds me of my older brother, good job! Also, itachi’s battle iq and iq is sooo underrated…
The neurological aspects of Tsukuyomi and by in large genjutsu are quite impressive. To control someone's 5 senses, a genjutsu user must keep 5 specific regions of the brain 🧠 in perfect homeostasis: occipital cortex (sight), temporal association areas (hearing), olfactory bulb (smell), gustatory cortex (taste), parietal lobe (touch). However, it's more important for the genjutsu user not to disrupt the victim's biological processes. Maintaining control of the hypothalamus, medulla complex, and parasympathetic/sympathetic nervous system is more important. Didn't mean to do a deep dive on this. Awesome content.
One angle that I can think of for the Hyperbolic Chamber idea would be something like Sasaki Kojiro's mental training and predictions from "Record of Ragnarok". Where he gets some level of understanding of his opponent and then creates scenarios in his head where he fights them (AND LOSES) again and again and again until he finally beats them. I imagine Itachi can do much the same thing. Gather intel on an enemy (active or would-be) and then use the Tsukuyomi to construct a scene where he and/or whoever he is working with fight that enemy AS IS over and over untik they work out a proper winning strategy. No, it still isnt physical training. But you get some IDEA of what you're up against and can make a plan on how to handle it.
the main benifit to training in the tsukiomi universe would be mental training and tactics, itachi could mentor naruto on battle tactics and show what could happen if certain choices are made, i dont think it would function as a we both get stronger button, more so a catch up mechanic for someone lacking in battle knowledge or so to learn it. the difference in affectiveness a person has on a battle field is greatly affected by battle knowledge and itachi has tons of that, he is a tactical genius so he could likely train someone like naruto to better understand combat and how to be effective. best way i can kind of give an example of how that could work is: lets say itachi is a pro gamer at a shooter game, and naruto is bottom tier trash at the game, itachi could teach naruto the fundamentals of the game like getting behind cover and knowing when to use super moves and what to do in certain situations, the meta and such, and while naruto may not come out with the reflexes to pull off top tier play he would likely atleast move up to being a mid tier or higher player instead of being bottom rung and running into bullets headfirst
Tsukuyomi feels like a dream realm to me. Genjutsu itself seems like a dream state. especially because if the way characters normally get out of a genjustsu trap
I seem to recall it being stated somewhere in Naruto that all living things on the planet have chakra which obviously would include the Aburame clan bugs. Not much of a plot hole cuz I'm not sure where you got the information that they don't have their own chakra network but I remember it being stated somewhere that everything on the planet has chakra. I seem to even recall it being said that there's some form of chocolate even inanimate objects but that one I could be wrong about. It may just be pothole that all living things have chakra but still. 9:26
FYI, Itachi's genjutsu he put his GF in simulated their entire life together, in one picosecond. For reference, that is one trillionth of a second or 0.000000000001 of a second. This level of time measurment is normaly used to measuer the speed of light for an additional reference. So yea, he can change the time dialation to whatever he wants and to a rediculous degree. Room of spirit of time wishes it was this usefull for training.
at this point they should just grab itachi out of the purelands again by sacrificing Sasukes remaining eye, THAT SHOULD WORK since because he has EMS Itachis DNA is partially within Sasukes eyes.
Nice, as usual. Just a thought. So the Rasengan Uzuhiko is effectively the Two Blue Vortex, therefore equating some form of Whole-Body Enveloping Rasengan, just of some unique meld, which Boruto’s Vanishing Rasengan was the precedent for… can you come up with a Theoretical Implications thereof?
Going back to the time chamber. It wouldn't work physically but I think it would work mentally/spiritually alot better than you think. Jutsu tend to get stronger the more you use them. Not because of some rpg leveling system but because your Chakra network and your mind will adapt to make the Chakra control of thst jutsu easier and faster. Basically imagine itachi inventing a jutsu that need 1000 handsigns. Then using tsukiyomi he trains to mentally understand the jutsu to the point where he just needs 1 hand sign to do
Hey Nick but Naruto is able to train with his Shadow Clones that how he masters Rasen-Shuriken and Sage Mode with the combined/learned xp from all his shadow clones. But i know his clones are different because he learned the forbidden shadow clone jutsu scroll.
I don’t think he could use it for the eternal mangekyo but I think he could cause someone to experience a tragic loss that feels so real the he can trigger a regular sharingun to the mangekyo without anyone really dying which that on its own is good. Obito never had the EMS and was broke with just the MS ability. So I agree with you on that one for sure.
Think about Shikamaru with Tsukuyomi, he could dip out and think about a plan for as long as needed before talking politics. Or taking all the other Kage into Tsukuyomi in the normal room and with the normal talks they were in already, but make them pick the negative options in the talks and have the bad outcome playout
I just finished watching the Itachi vs Kabuto battle and wow now I see why Itachi is such a beloved character. His philosophy and wisdom is second to none in a show filled with wise characters. I lamented earlier about how great it would have been to have a sensei in Konaha of his substance. Both Naruto and Sasuke would have been very different people had he been there to guide them. I think he could be Kishimoto’s masterpiece in terms of character writing. I’m in awe.
Wait a minute, I don’t know if I’M the one caught in a Tsukiyomi, but I vaguely feel like you’ve made this exact video, with the same title and thumbnail template, at least 3 times before hand.
The scariest fact to me is the Itachi we know has a very "chill" temperament as far as Uchiha go. He had next to no personal drive to be stronger or to fight he was simply forced to do so.
Like taking over a family business he was good at, but had no interest in. Imagine if he picked up EMS via someone had killed Sasuke and he became as bloodthirsty battle hungry as Madara.
Bro the world would be dead💀
He could have started the series with an EMS from his father, Fugaku, who had an MS. I don't think anything is stopping itachi from stealing his eyes and merging them with his own MS
I believe that it is one of his greatest strengths that he does not let himself be guided and blinded by emotions in battle, but always keeps a cool head and analyzes situations soberly.
Okay so idk if there's any proof for this it kinda just came to mind, so what if when a ems is awoken the abilities are fused together, so like Sasukes ametarasu was enhanced by itachi's tsukuyomi and thus he also gained the ability to use ametarasu in both eyes because itachi and Sasuke had different eyes for the same ability, idk just came to mind
itachi being forced into his role as a fighter without personal drive is indeed a scary thought. If he had picked up EMS and became as bloodthirsty as Madara, the consequences would have been devastating.
It’s crazy that without Itachi the alliance would have lost, because Nagato and Itachi were about to beat Naruto and B but then when Itachi broke out, beat Nagato and then wiped out the edo army.
We can assume that, but we also can assume they figure it out and made it a better fight! Also it would have been nice to see shisui eye showing up when Sasuke and Naruto first meet up again near the end
Get real lmao…
Naruto and Bee weren’t even trying. They were having a damn conversation.
You think Sage Mode naruto can bang pain up but KCM naruto can’t fuck nagato up? That’s some stupid logic.
Raikage, Bee, Tsunade, they all giving nagato and Itachi serious beatdowns
Remember Raikage with Ohnoki’s Jutsu smashed MADARA’S susanoo.
Tsunade did the same with raw power.
The five Kage can take the two of them on mid difficulty.
Especially since Itachi won’t be using his 300 IQ (since he won’t truly be trying to win, just edo tensei autopilot)
@@maalikserebryakovitachis Susanno shield reflects all ninjutsu, Ti jutsu and all other jutsus. Tsunade and raikage and bee would be fucked. They destroyed sussanos that were split 25 ways strength wise as well. Easy diff for edo itachi and nagato
@@maalikserebryakovNaruto wasn’t winning the pain fight till he went to 8 tails smh. Itachi was telling them how to dodge and evade attacks as well.
@@maalikserebryakovNagato used Preta path and Ashura path to hold Bee and Naruto in place while he sucked on their chakra,they would of been dead without Itachi interference,if Itachi didn't break out of the control they would be even more screwed.
Itachi is the goat
EDIT: Tsukuyomi is basically the genjutsu version of creation of all things. and i think itachi could if he wanted to have awoken sasukes ms.
Yes.
Itachi meat rider
@@johnforte6669 I totally would
The goat that killed uchia babies😮
@@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi stay pressed
I love that he is a peace keeper, not wanting to hurt others which is where he gets his primary fighting style of using genjutsu to break the opponents spirit, demoralizing them from fighting.
He went out of his way to torture some of his enemies before killing them.
@@didack1419Who?
@@evanc5656 Itachi in the novels
Nick can we get a video on why Neji should have been stronger than we saw? The Byakugan was so wasted, and Neji was apparently a prodigy.
In my opinion Itachi is one of the most Unique, Authentic and Influential characters from the series. The thing that people underestimate about Itachi fights/encounters, isn't just his power, (it's mainly writters or Kishimoto's fault for making Itachi seem or to look very powerful throughout the series) but how smart and intelligent he is during various situations, he never, ever underestimates his opponents because of his composure and his way of being, the level of thinking he's on honestly dwars most people in the series, with only people like Minato and Shikaku comparable with him. More precisly, Itachi isn't just any ordinary Shinobi also, he pretty much knows and he's also aware that all strong opponents have weaknesses (including himself), and he specializes in finding those "weaknesses" and exploiting them ("*Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness*" - Uchiha Itachi) because he's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. Itachi is very unique and authentic, especially in the factor of facing various encounters approach, his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach it's his key factor in all of his encounters. Being blind or nearly blind has never slowed him down (especially when he's pretty much serious, but that's the point, he has never go all out against anyone during the series.) Itachi it's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto). Moral of the story, never underestimate Itachi. He did more sick than most healthy ninjas do in their entire life. In my opinion No One should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). Also how can some of you guys even consider that Totsuka Blade it's slow when no such speed feat has been shown through the Shippuden that state it that it is slow? All of you are assuming it to be slow it may not be the case... Its not that the sword is unavoidable but it clearly has a very long range and is a very long blade. If you look at the manga, Naruto, Bee and Itachi are all relatively small from Nagato's point of view, and you can see the Totsuka Blade extending all the way from Itachi, piercing through Nagato, and still managing to nearly pop out toward the reader out of the page. I would say its fast because Kabuto coudldn't even react to it, and its not like Nagato was completely immobile to the point that he couldn't sidestep the blade. Also, Kabuto controlling people from far away is never stated to inhibit the Edos' reaction speed in any way. Being controlled by someone thousands of miles away didn't stop the Third Raikage from dodging KCM Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And as for Orochimaru, the sword struck him in between syllables of a word during his speech. I think that that is pretty fast. Pair the Totuska Blade with a good feint and its lethal because its ethereal, meaning it can pierce through any object. If the sword didn't live up to its reputation then Orochimaru wouldn't seek it out. People need to stop downplaying Itachi and denying the very clear speed feats of Totsuka. There is no room for interpretations here. The advantage of being an Uchiha, especially for Itachi and Madara, is that during an encounter against them, they always have a counter because of their unpredictable way of fighting factor, they don't run out of options or techniques, they almost always have a counter in their arsenal, even forbidden jutsus seems irrellevant against them, only a few Uchihas know a certain way to approach the situation with a certain and effective technique, that's why is hard/difficult to fight against them in my opinion. ☯️ 🤷🏻♂️ Here are the things that make Itachi so formidable. Tsukuyomi - A genjutsu so powerful that you literally can't escape it unless you have the same blood as Itachi, as stated by Itachi himself and proven later by Sasuke, or you're a jinchuriki. Jinchuriki are supposed to be immune to genjutsu but it hasn't been proven, but when Bee was fighting Edo Nagato and Itachi with Naruto, he said to watch out for Tsukuyomi explicitly. Literally 99% of all opponents fighting Itachi have no way of stopping Tsukuyomi. You could have the power to split the planet in half and it wouldn't matter. (Want to know why? - Kakashi pretty much state it in the actual anime and manga that Tsukuyomi it's such a dangerous Genjutsu Technique because it happen in a instant, even if you realize that you are trapped in the Tsukuyomi, it will be too late, because Itachi could approach you during that time in the real world (or he can use an Explosive Clone to approach you without you even realizing it in time and he can pretty much finish you before you can even realize, - 72 hours in Tsukuyomi realm means 1 second or a couple of seconds in the real world. Tsukuyomi can't be broken, when used to it's fullest.) The Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror - The Susanoo itself is a near invincible defense but these two weapons take it to the next step. The Sword of Totsuka can seal "anything" if it even touches it. It's completely OP. It's hard to fight a guy that can seal you away if his sword even touches you. The Yata Mirror is even a bigger deal in my opinion. It doesn't block attacks, it's "negates" them. You could throw an Amaterasu covered Bijuu bomb at Itachi and the Yata mirror will negate it, making it so the Susanoo doesn't even need to take a blow. You could punch the Yata mirror and the force will completely be negated. His biggest strength of all: tactical intelligence - Itachi always outsmarts and plans for everything because the plot demands it. You're physically strong? Itachi is already 2 steps ahead of you knowing exactly what to do. You're extremely fast? Again, 2 steps. You're going to try and outlast Itachi in a fight? Good luck. To add to this, some of the 3 most powerful techniques in the verse are due to his intelligence and planning ability; Izanami, Izanagi, and Kotoamatsukami. Izanami - A forbbiden genjutsu technique that allows you to alter someone's destiny. Impossible to break out of even if you know you're in a genjutsu without complying with the users set destiny for you. Even someone like Bee, a perfect Jinchuriki, can't escape Izanami unless he does what Itachi wants him to. Izanagi - You somehow gained an advantage over Itachi? He makes it so that advantage never happened. Kotoamatsukami - Though Shisui's technique, Itachi has his eye which effectively makes it his weapon. A genjutsu so powerful that the person it's cast on doesn't even know they're under a genjutsu. Like the Tsukuyomi, completely OP. To add to all of this, Itachi is pretty good at hand to hand combat, is great with shuriken, is extremely fast, is great with regular fire techniques, is slippery and unpredictable, and has the extremely dangerous and fast Genjutsu style of fighting approach that can caught you off guard almost at any time. With all of these things considered you've got one dangerous ninja. Lastly but not least Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story. When Itachi Uchiha awakened his Susano'o, he was seen wielding legendary weapons of the Totsuka Blade and the Yata Mirror. The former allowed Itachi to seal anyone he pierced in a world of genjutsu forever, while the latter gave him the ability to deflect any and all attacks thrown towards him, regardless of whether they were physical or spiritual in nature. According to Zetsu (who was around since the period of Kaguya time era until the present of Naruto) he state it in the anime and also in the manga that these weapons, when combined with his Susano'o, made Itachi Invincible. This is why Kishimoto basically had to give him a handicap: Naruto AIDS. 🤷🏻♂️ ☯️
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@@script9096 basically he is saying that Itachi was written to be god tier unbeatable with the most broken abilities and given chakra disease to explain why he doesn't effortlessly solve the plot.
As a review:
-He has nearly unrivaled intelligence and speed so nobody can blitz or trick him.
- instantaneous fire that burns anything forever.
-The most powerful genjutsu that can kill you instantly with a look
- Oh and the other most powerful genjutsu just chillin in his ravens head
-A blade the seals anyone it touches
-A shield that straight up negates all attacks
-Not to mention the busted shit normal sharingan can do like straight up rewriting reality and the time stone thing Dr Strange did to Dormammu.
Itachi is what happens when Kishimoto proactively makes a marry sue OC and anytime someone has the upper hand he write some more busted shit to explain why actually that wouldn't work on Itachi.
@@convictedxmage4546i aint readin all this😭
Lol, the tldr needs a tldr. @@convictedxmage4546
Itachi is like the strongest naruto character who did not use abilities/powers that wasn’t his own. Which includes sage mode, a tail beast and Hashirama cells, he got praise by both Founders, and Madara also said he would also get a eye of hypnotisim and insight like Itachi, who is the only character shown to have both
Kaguya, Sakura, Might guy? I think Kisame would lose to genjutsu but idk he might know some tricks thx to being Itachi partner. There's prob someone that I forgot about so I'll edit my comment if I remember someone
@@pangoomb6781kaguya doesn't count, itachi is stronger than Sakura and might guy idk its close but I really don't know
@@pangoomb6781Kisame has a form based on power from Samehada.
@@no_just_relax No way Itachi is stronger is than Light novel Sakura or even Boruto since she has even more time to store chakra so she can prob die like 200 times unless you want to say that it's Edo Itachi than ye but I don't think Itachi has any seal Jutsu so every fight with other Edo characters would be just a draw
@@izzycrybaby1164 With Samehada I think if would take 8 gates to kill him not just 7, Samehada is just addition to Kisame power there's a reason he's called the 0 tails beast
Big up the creator and the fanbase without them both we wouldnt have this content
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Oh, yes Mangekyo-Awakening via Genjutsu is something i often ponder. I always thought Genjutsu was tway it would go in Boruto with Sarada and all that but nah, the writing is just too abysmal!!
I think with the hyperbolic chamber scenario, if it was tied to his knowledge, if he figured out how to improve the rasengan, then he could implant that knowledge into Naruto making him believe he figured it out, then all he'd have to do in the real world is put the theory to practice, he wouldn't get it straight away but he'd definitely have a great head start.
Yeah I think Itachi could use tsukiyomi to train someone else in a skill he himself has already mastered. But to teach someone else a skill that Itachi doesn't already know, the illusion would have to perfectly simulate the laws of physics of the real world. And I don't think tsukiyomi has that level of "graphical fidelity."
Now I want to add to what you said but first I want to touch a theory nick hammer had which is .
For itachi to be able to great a world so perfect that it can mimic real life itachi would need to understand the universe an he says its easier to create a world where you live out your life which is wrong why Tsukuyomi controls all 5 senses itachi an izumi lived a life time an had a child Itachi created a living organism yea he is god in tsukuyomi but would still need to have the knowledge in order to create things like the scent of hot asphalt that creates Mirage's on a hot day in order to create that you would have to understand the effects of heat on a asphalt surface an refraction of light ect to create a sunset over a lake you would have to understand reflection of light on water itachi had a vast knowledge an understanding if he didn't an created a flat earth then it would fail as that wouldn't hold up even in tsukuyomi you can't be stupid an use tsukuyomi then you would probably be able to use kakashi eye to open kamui dimension in tsukuyomi which makes no sense so if you are dumb an don't understand certain things then how can you use tsukuyomi to create something you don't understand so what I'm trying to say is that itachi intelligence so vast he's able to create almost anything perfectly he was even able to distinguish sage chakra when he met kabuto before saauke an saauke had ems so it goes to show how vast an resource full itachi is he literally created a world an controlled it for 2 people not 1 but 2 people .
Now to add to your point itachi could go in tsukuyomi an use his knowledge on techniques eg. Flying raijin . create simulations an train for every outcome predictable based on how the technique is used an find counters . he literally as a genin taking the chunin exams used the knowledge of how the other genins were cheating an thought of counters an how to beat them based on the abilities they used to cheat doing that in tsukuyomi with the knowledge of how flying raijin is used an he has access to that as he was a anbu with classified information he could study abilities an train to beat it in tsukuyomi ect
Tsukuyomi is like ChatGPT, it can interpolate but it can't extrapolate.
the way he describes the second theory, the hyperbolic chamber one, sounds a lot like the dreams I sometimes I get. I will go to sleep some nights and feel like ive lived out several years, decades even, but its not the same.. its like jumping between the pages of a book your reading, you dont want to deal with the hard parts unless its part of the story you like. You can get married, have kids, be successful but most of the time their is no struggle, no concept of 'what if something goes wrong?" and that moment of it going wrong never actually happening. Sometimes I have to go through rough times in those dreams but i feel as though they wouldnt be as hard to deal with if it was in reality
Naruto takes that saying of an "Eye for an Eye" literally 😅
Probably the best theory video I’ve seen of you do
He said nobody’s ever broke out of Tsukuyomi but sasuke did when he fought Itachi
My thoughts exactly
Itachi's goal was to let Sasuke run out of chakra so he could cure him of the curse mark. Itachi let Sasuke escape Tsukiomi
@@ruppelspoopels I would agree but the side effects that itachi got from it would say different. I know he wasn’t trying to kill sasuke but he didn’t accept him to break out the tsukuyomi
Well he didn’t actually Itachi me thinks out of tsyukiomi
@@Kianplayz89 itachi didn’t let him out he broke out that why he said you’ve gotten strong sasuke and itachi had side effects from him breaking out and as many times as we seen him use it that was the only time he was affected that way afterwards
Love your videos! Makes me feel justified in how much Naruto I watched as a teen.
If fugaku had this ability and used it ruthlessly I can imagine how he got the name wicked eye fugaku
This is why Kishimoto old ideas on how Madara was going to be beaten, one of them was with the aid of Itachi and know that one ability of his, yeah. Who can say otherwise on if could honestly work.
Hell, it's easily a good explanation why Obito never tried to kill Itachi, maybe isn't entirely because he fears him, but the mixture of that and the practicality on killing him and what will be his loses afterwards. Because remember when Obito was in a specialized Genjustu and saw Itachi there, he says this, "No matter where I go, you're always a problem to me." Only to him. That legitimately means Itachi is arguably one of the few people Obito always had to think to work around Itachi's objectives.
That's why he never talked to Sasuke even while hidden, because Itachi will always know and will do something about it and Obito knows this, he can't risk having Itachi going after him.
I wonder if itachi needs another person to activate tsukuyomi, or if he could just dive into it on his own at will. That would’ve been a game changer for him.
He could literally just enter his own boundless dream world whenever he wants…
I would get way too distracted, and probably depressed upon returning to reality 😂
I think Another Uchiha would need to activate it for him.
He can do this easily by manipulating his own chakra. None of MS users showed ability to talk someone under 0.1 seconds in a Genjutsu
@@justinarzola4584 I didn’t mean activating it for the first time. But more like, does he need to inflict it on somebody (kakashi, sasuke, naruto), or can he just turn it on and go in there by himself? I don’t think he’s ever mentioned doing that, nor have we seen it.
that would've been a game changer for itachi, being able to enter tsukuyomi on his own. It could have given him more control over his opponents. But yeah, returning to reality might be a bit of a downer after being in a boundless dream world.
He just needs to cast Tsukoyomi on a mirror.
Since he can do normal genjutsu quite well and the Sharingan just at a base level tells him how techniques work, he definitely has a good understanding of how other peoples chakra works, so he should at least be able to teach most people every jutsu he knows, and that must be quite a few by this point. He may not be able to help you make a new one, but short of that I can't think of any reason he wouldn't have a 99.99% success rate otherwise.
I think Itachi is almost like a perfect combination of the six path, two sons, but Morley, the brother with the Sharrigun eyes, except he’s not narcissist but he still want to do things alone becausehe believes with the power he has. He can do it by himself.
Your spelling is giving me a headache😭
I think when it comes to the "hyperbolic time chamber training" aspect you could potentially increase your chakra reserves. Chakra is mental energy plus physical energy, so if your physical side outweighs your mental side, it could give you years of study and meditation to increase it. A bit niche perhaps, but better than nothing
Lol I commented a few seconds too early in the video
Itachi is just that guy
Been loving your usage of pontificate recently
I agree that Tsukuyomi wouldn’t be able to give someone an EMS, but I DO think you could take a regular Sharingan wielder and help them awaken a regular MS this way. They could even train with their MS inside Tsukuyomi without worrying about burning the MS out in the process.
I don't think the second part could happen unless you were placed in Tsukiyomi a second time. While I believe you could give someone an MS, the abilities you practice with in Tsukiyomi won't necessarily translate to the actual powers the MS has. There's no sense in mastering Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi in the genjutsu world if your actual MS ability is Kamui. So you'd have to be hit once, awaken the MS, be freed, experiment with the awakened abilities, then go back into Tsukiyomi to practice the abilities.
@@kyuubinaruto17 And even if you come back a second, time knowing your MS ability, Itachi won't know how it works. You will only experience your MS ability in Tsukiyomi how Itachi perceives it to work.
One satisfactory justification why this wouldn't work is that the person inside the genjutsu might lack the actual agency to choose to kill their loved one, so the brain states are actually different and the hypothetical important step to awaken the MS is not fulfilled.
Tsukuyomi just seems like a restricted small scale creation of all things.
I do believe that itachi could make someone awaken an MS since the reason Sasuke unlocked his Sharingan was because Itachi used Tsukuyomi on him to show him what happened so if it can make you unlock your Sharingan there is no reason for it not to work on the mangekyo, he also tried to make him awake his mangekyo when he used Tsukuyomi on him for the second time but Sasuke was already used to that trauma so it didn't work hence why something stronger was needed.
Another great video
If Obito hadnt been there to witness Rins death with kakashi would only the left eye have unlocked MS? Or would Obito have gotten like a bluetooth notification that his MS had been unlocked remotely?
The Knowledge Problem behind the Hypertonic Lion Tamer approach to Tsukuyomi is an absolutely fascinating challenge to me. Basically what it amounts to is Itachi trying to be the author of a story where Naruto learns a lesson and grows stronger (like figuring out some new technique), where the only way to actually see real-world effects is if Naruto can achieve the same realization and power-boost *by only reading the script.*
He can't simply write "Then Naruto learned a valuable lesson", because without living through the experience himself, Naruto can't recreate it after Tsukuyomi ends. But even if he writes out a plausible-seeming pathway towards gaining that power, if he misses just one key detail, it basically amounts to a plot hole, and trying to recreate those steps in reality would fail due to incomplete or inaccurate information. It's like trying to write a novel that doubles as a WikiHow, all without actually knowing how to do the task yourself in the first place. Really shows just how insane a task it really is in practice.
That one was on purpose!
This is a comment I made in another thread:
This doesn't mean that he can transfer knowledge he doesn't have. The fabricated situations can lack realistic details up to a certain level of precision, the person inside the genjutsu might become easier to fool (just like we typically don't realise we are dreaming), and creating a representation of something to fool someone (a simulacrum) doesn't require to replicate all of the information of the real thing.
Even if someone can reinforce a skill by remembering what it felt like to practice that skill, developing the rasenshuriken from the rasengan is more than just reinforcement, it requires to learn novel things by trial-and-error in the world
Although it is a good point, even if we assume the Tsukuyomi can't produce novel knowledge, it can trigger reinforcement based on the experiences of the caster and probably also on those of the victim.
@@didack1419 "the person inside the genjutsu might become easier to fool (just like we typically don't realise we are dreaming)"
This rings very true for me. A while back I had developed a way I could tell I wasn't dreaming (just for fun, as a thought experiment), involving paying very close attention to details on things, like the rough texture of my wall. If I could just stop what I was doing and stare at a wall and see all sorts of clarity, I was pretty much safe to conclude I was truly awake.
Then I had a dream where I got arrested for some offscreen crime, and as I was being carried off in handcuffs, I had the thought to try my little dream-detector trick. I decided that yes, I was really awake, that's not good.....and then I woke up not too long after.
But I hadn't actually done the trick properly. I never actually saw or focused on any level of detail. I just skipped from step 1 to 3, having the idea to check, and then concluding that I was awake. I was, as you say, easier to fool while in that state.
Thought it might be neat for you to see that there's direct evidence you're correct :D
@@riluna3695 (the idea that the person inside the Tsukuyomi thinks the situation they are living is reality itself is mentioned already in the video.)
That's interesting, I saw that thing of skipping steps being referenced once to explain why some people have apparently felt like they experienced a lot of time in the dream, to the point of feeling like they have had a separate lifetime there.
The account was of a real person that said they had experienced a dream in which at some point inside their dream they were suddenly told by a character on said dream that they were in fact dreaming, even though they didn't believe it themselves (!), and then to deny that they apparently tried to remember their past of said dream, at waking up it seems that they actually had the sensation that they indeed have remembered a separate lifetime of experiences.
It's also interesting that the self was experiencing a dream but all of the sudden there was, seemingly, another part of their brains telling them that they were sleeping, something that they didn't know. Maybe/probably it wasn't another part of the brain being aware of the fact that the self was sleeping, and it's just a coincidence, but it's an interesting thought.
@@didack1419 Sounds a bit familiar. I've noticed that dreams can provide inherent understanding. Without any context clues or past experiences to go off of, you just KNOW a thing. While extreme, I would imagine "I've had an entire life of experiences" could qualify as that, especially if they can't actually remember more than a couple things FROM that life, if even any.
I woke up from a dream once, years and years ago, and was astounded at the fact that I'd had that exact same dream once before, but I couldn't remember anything more than that. For years I thought I had had that dream twice and just mostly forgotten, until finally I had a completely different, and definitively NEW dream, wherein I knew for a fact that I'd had that same dream before. That broke the illusion and allowed me to see that "I've had this dream before" was PART of the dream, and was an untrue statement.
Basically, the human brain is friggin' WEIRD, and it can outright lie to you at times, especially when it comes to dreams. And those lies can feel real and stick around for years.
since we're talking about things that SHOULD have happened, I think Orochimaru should have helped in training up karin to master all of her clan specific and individual abilities then took over her body ( in all its uzumaki glory) and then took over sasuke's body he could have made an Orochimaru clone ( via curse mark) and convinced sasuke that he'd killed him then joined taka ( pretending to be karin) then used the vantage point to earn his " trust" ( cuz at that time who did sasuke trust lol) then took over his body ( or did it sooner to make his life easier)
I would say just take Sasuke's eyes. He'd have an Uzumaki level Chakra pool that's large enough to handle the rennigan, his MS would be lethal, if not Madara level. Especially if it's after EMS
I feel like tsukiyomi has something to do with creation of all things jutsu. Like Tsukiyomi is so powerful because it's only yin release of creation of alll things jutsu so Itachi's Tsukiyomi is reflective of his imagination/knowledge (like Nick said) because it's only yin release, but if he could add yang release, it would become real like the realm of drunken dreams. Which he achieves in his last fight. At least, that's how i understood it
He was a ms generator because he could force hightened emotions in others and awaken ms at any time.
So Tsukuyomi causes the target to form new memories while under it’s influence, including personal realisations.
This means that characters undergo neurogenesis, forming new neurological connections form in their brain.
It sounds like Tsukuyomi is Yin Yang release
It can make people their puppet too.
Hikari uchiha in video game made adult Naruto his puppet for some time
In a way yes, but it teeters more to Yang due to its illusory and violent nature
Are we going to ignore the incredibly maniacal idea of paralyzing the Abarame bugs under a genjutsu while keeping Yoji sentient and then burning him alive?
This does lead to something g I’ve always wondered about Amaterasu. Can the caster control the intensity of the flames?
By intensity could the caster make a candle flame that wouldn’t burn the wick?
Could they create a campfire with the heat of a candle?
Could you make a candle flame create the heat of a bonfire?
Bruh has the sharingan. He can see every insects chakra like broad daylight. Seems like a mismatch lol
Im not 100% sure but i know itachi doesn’t have control over the shape of the flames like sasuke does. But a part of me doesn’t doubt his ability to do so.
@@19162205 sasuke can control the flame and direct them where he wants them to go. If he wants you on fire and you dodge, Itachi would miss where Sasuke would arc the flame to light you on fire.
I’m more curious about intensity.
Like is it always the same tempature or can you change the temp to fit your needs, like having a cooking fire or a fire that’s small but can heat an entire room in the winter.
Could you lower the temperature to burn someone alive more slowly?
Like burn them alive with the intensity of a cigarette lighter rather than a blow torch. Neither are huge flames but both burn at very different intensities and temperatures.
@@Dr.Octavius2.5 you misunderstand me.
When Itachi paralyzed the bug he didn’t put Yoji under the genjutsu. This means he was fully aware of everything that was happening but could not breath or scream. When Itachi lights him on fire, he isn’t in a pocket reality but feeling his skin blister and sear while being unable to even let out the agony.
If Itachi can choose the intensity for the fire, he could have burned away Yoji’s skin one layer at a time. He could have made Yoji’s death last hours rather than seconds.
Imagine being paralyzed and forced to feel the sun cook your skin under there was nothing left. The agony of feeling your nerves firing off in pain over your entire body but being helpless to stop it.
To me this is far more horrific then being tied to a stake and burned in a bonfire. That’s incredibly intense heat but would only last a few second before shock would set in and your nervous system would shut down.
maniacal indeed, As for Amaterasu, the caster cannot control the intensity of the flames, it's an all-consuming inferno that cannot be extinguished. So, no candle flames or campfires, just intense, unrelenting fire.
Awesome as always thanks
Itachi is strong enough to be Kishimoto's favorite Akatsuki.
it makes sense the infinite tsukiyomi is just a wide range version using the moon as an " eye" snd it goes through objects hitting everyone who sees it/ hit by the moon light, but isn't directed but itatchi's is focused and directed.
Could one Uchiha use Izanagi to restore vision to multiple other sharingans used up by Izanagi previously?
That seems like a cool possibility,it helps showcase how reactionary the Sharingan can be when around other users.
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Love your content bro! Itachi is him
Itachi's tsukiyomi already implies cause and effect, as long as it's realistic. You get the answer pretty quickly, when he puts Izumi under it. The story goes that they live a happy life, have a family and grow old together. Yet "it knows" the complexity that is reproduction. Sure, you could chalk that up to he knows how and where babies come from, but the background is something thats also completely frabicated. While yes hes understands the fundamentals, he's not planning out every minute detail in her tsukiyomi. Just the story the tsukiyomi knows the rest. So therefore, to train, all he would need to know is what youre trying to do, demostrate it, and what you want changed. We know that naruto chakra nature is wind, and he has many different variations of the rasengan. So, for it to work Itachi literally only needs to think of the trainign routine and him attempting to apply wind nature to it until he actually gets it right,if naruto wants any shape transformation added to it beforehand it also must be relayed.
His tsukiyomi also operates on the same principal that the shadow clones do. It's the reason he learned rasenshuriken and a wind style rasengan to begin with. cause the knowledge they obtained is transfered back to them. A genjutsu works by disrubting chakra flow but chakra flow doesnt effect memory or any other parts of the body. the brain does. ITS ALSO a real thing where you trick your brain into believeing something is happening, and IT WILL replicate symptoms. So if he makes them learn something itll register in the brain it will form those connections as if had physically done it
This doesn't mean that he can transfer knowledge he doesn't have. The fabricated situations can lack realistic details up to a certain level of precision, the person inside the genjutsu might become easier to fool (just like we typically don't realise we are dreaming), and creating a representation of something to fool someone (a simulacrum) doesn't require to replicate all of the information of the real thing.
Even if someone can reinforce a skill by remembering what it felt like to practice that skill, developing the rasenshuriken from the rasengan is more than just reinforcement, it requires to learn novel things by trial-and-error in the world
Although it is a good point, even if we assume the Tsukuyomi can't produce novel knowledge, it can trigger reinforcement based on the experiences of the caster and probably also on those of the victim.
For the training in genjutsu theory, it has been proven true by Madara Uchiha. In his old age, Madara used genjutsu to train Obito for years in the illusion world while in the real world, only a few months had passed by. Afterwards, Obito fought on such a scale that he not only competed with the Minato, but had the world believe that he was Madara due to his level of skill.
As for the MS theory, I believe it is also true to awaken the MS through genjutsu alone. You just have to have the one affected believe it is real long enough for them to awaken the MS and then afterwards you can let them know it was all fake. After that the genie is out of the bottle and it's not going back in.
Even though it wasn't canon and if I'm not mistaken, I think it was Tsunade's Infinite Tsukuyomi Dream where this happened, Sasuke clashed with Naruto on a roof top and Itachi blocked Sasuke's attack with his body, which Sasuke believed that he had killed him, thus awakening his MS, but then later on we find out that Itachi used genjutsu, so Sasuke had now awakened MS and Itachi was still alive.
Random thought but before Kurama died why wasn't Naruto a Juubi Jinchuriki. Like of course the buff wouldn't be as strong was when Madara became the Juubi Jinchuriki but he could have still gotten an extra buff equal to when Obito became the Juubi Jinchuriki. I mean in boruto we see Jigen with a baby ten tails so why didn't the small parts of each tailed beast plus Kurama make a ten tailed beast? Maybe even the powers of all the other tailed beasts get absorbed by Kurama and give him an extra tail. Maybe I missed something but I feel like there is no reason this shouldn't have happened.
The other tailed beasts are only the chakra of the Ten tails. The Gedo statue is it's body and Madara/Obito were only able to become it jinchuruki after returning the chakra to the body.
I can't remember if this is confirmed but I believe combining the chakra of all the tailed beasts is another way to obtain the chakra of the sage of Six Paths besides combining Indra and Asura. This I believe is part of why Naruto meets the sage before his resurrection, while Saskue receives an infusion of Hashirama cells and thus Asura's chakra to reach the same.
If itachi could truly awaken an uchiha's MS that also means he gets to choose the abilities since they're a reflection of his will
Its always been crazy to me how underrated Itachi is. He literally had to get nerfed multiple times and ultimately had to be removed from the story because of his potential. Definitely would have been one of the most powerful characters in the Naruto universe with out the sickness had he lived.
It's crazy we never saw him fight in his prime outside brief flashbacks when he was a kid,the fact he was only 18-21( what should of been his prime with no sickness) when he contracted that illness is also crazy to think about.
Itachi is one of the most overrated character in Naruto, you know who is undatated people like Sakura
true, itachi's potential was immense and he had to be nerfed and removed from the story due to his overwhelming strength. Had he lived without the sickness, he could have been one of the most powerful characters in the Naruto universe.
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I disagree with your first half, he is appropriately rated. I do however agree with your second half, Sakura is indeed underrated, the boys needed SoSP Chakra to damage Kaguya while Sakura just elbow dropped her to the ground!
When did anyone ever say itachi was underrated?
...the hyperbolic time chamber one works quite well if l Itachi is the one who wants to train, the person he sends into it is his willing teacher, and he's not learning from nothing as knows something physically about what he's training. That would be fine i think...
You can kill someone with it. It happens instantly so you can’t break out of it. The Otsutsuki use a larger version of it to absorb the chakra of a world. Why was Kotoamatsukami considered the strongest genjutsu and not this? Especially when it has a huge cooldown. Maybe it only has a cooldown for other people but Shisui can spam it? That’s the only reason I can think of as to why it’s considered the strongest. That actually makes sense when you think about it. A dojutsu you are given isn’t nearly as strong as the original. We’ve only seen people who aren’t Shisui use it. After all, how would Shisui even know he had it if it took 10-20 years to recharge?
Tru it's not infinite koto is it😂
@@SubZer00fucksgivenI actually saw a lot of people comparing omnipotence to Koto and that kinda makes sense. Koto is brainwashing someone and Omnipotence is doing that on a massive scale. Maybe Koto is just a weaker version of omnipotence?
It can kill by simple mental torture, it's miraculous that Kakashi and Sasuke survived but Sasuke took the pain into more hatred.
@@justinarzola4584He didn’t have to torture his girlfriend to kill her. She just died when she died in the dream.
@@justinarzola4584 I still can’t believe Kakashi survived. He had to endure not just three days but three days that felt way slower so it was probably a lot longer than three days. He should’ve lost his mind if not died from shock. Even if Itachi was going easy on him that’s still ridiculous.
30:13 considering the fact that Itachi gave Izumi a whole life and vonvinced her that he loves her with the "blink of an eye" , shouldn´t she have awoken her MS in the moment befpre she died, what is a bigger emotion than the love of a whole life in a heartbeat?
theoretically I also believe he should be able to make people awake MS. My only problem with that theory is: how come Sasuke didnt wake his MS after, not one, but two times reliving his parents deaths. And since Itachi wanted Sasuke to awake MS, why not do it that way. Specially when they meet in inn's hallway: Sasuke alerady has a 2 tomoe sharingan, is on the verge of going rogue with hatred and Itachi makes him relive their parents deaths for 48 hours. Shouldn't that have made Sasuke awake an MS?
Sasuke didn't have a 3 tomoei sharingan either time he was put under tsukuyomi. I'm pretty sure you need to have all 3 before you can awaken MS. As for how sasuke didn't get his 3rd at the in... who knows
@Farenhyte- false, obito awakened his ms at 2 tomoe. What winds up happening is you unlock the 3rd tomo and ms all in 1 go
Maybe because sasuke didnt kill his parents himself? You need to feel responsible for someones death to unlock ms. And Itachi was the one to kill their parents so maybe thats why
It’s likely that despite his hatred for Itachi since he was a kid, deep down he still had love for him. Sasuke was able through the manifestation of hate to essentially create a smoke screen in order to convince himself that killing Itachi was the greatest thing he could do.
In actuality its because of retcon. Originally u had to kill your closest friend, but then kishimoto changed his mind about it later and now u just need to experience great emotional distress
Yes, a wonderkind, dutch represent
I want every itachi fan to know that madara solos every version of itachi easily
Not if they are both at their MS selves
Madara with just an ms was fighting against hashirama almost daily
Bro every version of madara stomps itachi. Every single version
I want to let every madara fan know luffy bodies madara every time😂😂😂
@@gregoriogutierrez3756 😆
Long live Itachi! Love ur vids brotha keep up the good work!
No one listens to me when I insist how broken and op itachi was. He unironically solos 99% of the verse
He would be if he had more stamina. He has the most broken abilities. Give Boruto Itachi’s abilities and he’d be unstoppable. No need to learn a new rasengan. 😂
99% he loses to MANY
Madara, Hashirama, Obito , Naruto, Sasuke, Pain/Nagato , Kakashi war arc 1ms(maybe), Guy, Tobirama, Prime Hiruzen(maybe) , Minato, Sage Kabuto(maybe)
@@liontribepoetbut bro. Because he’s my favorite character he solos kaguya with totska blade
On you previous video on the subject I literally mentioned more than half of this video. I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed.
Itachi is the most overrated character in anime
He has an impenetrable shield and and unblockable sword?
@@uspahle Kawaki can just shrink the susano 😂
@@fly463 no,he can't,the Yata mirror isn't physical. That's like saying he'd shrink your thoughts or soul
@@uspahlethat made up of chakra 😂😂😂😂
@@uspahle
Lmao 😂
It isn't physical ?
Who told you ?
If sukunahikona can shrink amaterasu , fireballs , etc why can't he shrink susano ?
9:22 actually ocular genjutsu works by pourinv your chakra into your opponents brain to control their senses. Its why its able to work on people and things without chakra networks
NICK please think this one over. It might change your mind about brothers obtaining EMS.
I disagree with your statement saying that brothers couldn't just swap their MS eyes and both of them obtain the EMS. I think it actually could be possible.. the first reason being we've never seen it attempted.
In madara's circumstance he took his Brother's eyes forcibly because he was totally blind from over using his own MS, and his brother was dying . Marada was greedy and power hungry. But he thought he would get a small amount of sight back.. but it went better than he had hoped for. He awoke EMS pretty much accidentally.. he knew his brother was also going blind, but because his brother wasn't totally blind he tooke the eyes to get his brothers remaining sight. So I don't think awakening EMS was intentional. Otherwise why didnt he take the eyes earlier. if they would have known about EMS before, i believe they absolutly would have tried a swap. Either they would both awaken it, or only one of them would have, either way Marada could still have stolen them or taken them whike his brother was dying. It wasnt written this way because 2 EMS users would have clapped the cheeks of the senju clan. And the story wouldnt have played out like it did.
In the 2nd senerio, itachi and sauske fought their last battle before sauske even awakened his MS.. So itachi never had the chance to swap.. PLUS Itachi knew he was dying and basically planted the idea into sauske to take his eyes after their battle. Itachi may have known about EMS but never planned to follow through with taking sauske's eyes. Doing so wasn't going to cure him, he always wanted sauske to kill him. He always wanted sauske to take his eyes.
So back to the original argument. What is stopping brothers from MS swapping? When you emplant new eyes, you exchange your original MS for another pair. And sense sauske isnt walking around with 4 eyes on his face, he had to have discarded his original eyes. Yes i agree that 4 eyes are required to unlock it, but he still throws away his original pair of MS. Also sense It doesnt matter how blind the doner eyes are, it works.. your sibling could swap with you no matter how damaged. We know the sharingan eyes dont lose their abilitys if they are taken out while the user is alive, we saw it with obito and kakashi. the abandoned eyes are still MS, and if preserved or implanted what is stopping this from unlocking EMS in a sibling. How dont you see this working?
*side rant.. What's stopping sarada from getting her fathers original eyes, if they were preserved.. couldnt sarada get EMS?? This is a theroy ive seen floating around, but it reinforces my theroy.. and even if it never happens obito was a freak with hundreds of sharingan, so him saving sauske's eyes is not out of the question. Im 100% sure he did we just may never see them. However in this senerio wouldn't Sarada theoretically awaken EMS now that shes awakened her MS?* anyways back to the topic.
All of this leads me to believe the 4 eye spirit thing that pops up when itachi says sauske has his spare eyes, and when sauske awakens his EMS, shows 2 things. 1. the pair of eyes that are already there are representing the MS awoken by the user, and 2. the empty sockets represent the MS that areneeded and eventually exchanged or acquired. Soooo theoretically with all this in mind, i dont see why brothers couldnt unlock EMS via a MS swap? I mean we haven't seen it tried, and it's not specifically stated to not work... it just didnt happen that way in the story, but I believe its absolutely doable. OP as heck, and probably enough to break the story which is why we will never see it. But doable.
Seperate comment: Perhaps I missed it, so could you please tell me where or when it says the swap has to happen with an MS user who is also blood related? I thought this was an assumption people had because It just so happens that the only people confirmed to be EMS wielders got them from siblings. I just don't remember it being stated that way. I'm probably wrong. But it doesn't hurt to verify.
THANKS FOR ALL THE WONDERFUL CONTENT NICK!
Keep up the awesome work and videos Nick love the video
If this is true, then I'd argue that Itachi' Tsukuyomi is a *Yin-Yang Release styled Getjutsu that incorporates Space and Time.
It's the only way you can explain the Tsukuyomi' area of effect, actual affects to the target and where the jutsu takes place. Itachi transports you to the Tsukuyomi pocket dimension, then he is free to do whatever he wants to to whomever. He basically becomes god in that dimension and it's crazy.
Another Nick banger vid to finish my day with❤
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it's funny i was thinking of this from the start of the video. however, what he could do is pass on his knowledge to someone. it would increase their spiritual energy.
therefore when they come back to reality they could train physically and then make up the difference.
the best way would probs be spend a small amount of time in tsukuyomi imparting knowledge and meditation and the like. say a couple of days or less for all of a second of real time. this wont leave the physical body with the inate strain of tsukuyomi. then go physically train for a week. bonus points if you can use shadow clone spam.
so you could make substantatial gains in short bursts with the right conditions. otherwise imparting too much knowledge over too much time would probably kill or put someone in a coma again.
Another great use is information conveyance, drill battle plans and tactical maneuvers into another person until they have them memorized. It wouldn't help them pull those things OFF necessarily, but people would immediately know what was meant when certain otherwise-unfamiliar formations and the like were called out by a field tactician.
about the time chamber thing, you know how (I don't know if its real, fake or otherwise) like you can Imagine working out and your body will respond to some degree building so muscle and such wouldn't that be triggered if you were in the Genjutsu? or just training to gain more chakra however that works, or developing new Jutsu because you can learn how to mold the chakra, similar to how Naruto used shadow clones? also wouldn't he have time to learn Naruto's limits and such? or talk to Orochimaru?
Pretty good video. not gonna lie. More itachi content please!
I love itachi as is and I love
how they did the shisui thing knowing that watching the show second time around gives me chills when ever itachi uses an ability knowing thats actually a part of his best friend in thoes eyes
Awesome video! rate it 9/10, we missed doggo
Itachi saying “you have my spare eyes” leads me to believe that yes the eyes need to be swapped. If it was indeed that they have to somehow merge eyeballs he would say “you have my other set of eyes” or second set of eyes.
Yo Idk if people want this or not but I would LOVE it if you did content on short format for the boruto manga spoilers as they come out, no one plots and theorizes like you dude. Would love those early comments on what seems to be going on before the actual video breaking down the chapter itself.
In the argument of tsukuyomi. Its basically heald to the rules of nerve gear in soa, which i believe should be a concern when such technologies get developed but ultimately, ur brain sends signals to ur organs to make the function, if the brain thinks it died, it would stop trying to run anything else...
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It would make more sense if Sasuke had activated his sharingan when Itachi used Tsukiyomi on him. I mean, the guy saw his family cut down for days. How much stronger the emotional impact could be? If that didn’t happen, then EMS shouldn’t happen either. But, then, why it did not happen, i don’t know.
The hyperbolic time chamber situation could in theory allow someone to attain sage mode. Sage mode is something learned, it's something that you need to meditate on and find mental balance. It's purely about calmness in the spiritual sense. And Itachi does know about sage mode, he knows about Jiraiya, he's fought Jiraiya in sage mode. He knows about people who can gather nature chakra from the air, he knows almost everything about it but hasn't actually done the training himself. But he can give a place for someone to meditate for decades or centuries. Someone could in theory go there to meditate and come out a sage.
This is the best Naruto hypothetical breakdown I've ever seen
24:00 if you can't practice ninjutsu, then it sounds like you should still be able to train in taijutsu abd kenjustsu.
But this only goes so far as technique as physical athleticism and stamina doesn't improve. But at the same time, this allows for relatively infinite stamina for such training as physical limitations don't have to apply.
Imagine if itachi trained naruto in regular hand to hand combat. Narutos basic combo of 1000 clones then slingshot themsleves at the enemy and hope something hits is a waste of chakra. Every fight, clones never land a hit. If naruto learned hand to hand combat at itach's level, then each clone would be so much more powerful. Since this isnt a physical feat, it should work. Recognizing attacks, using counter attacks and dodging, learning vital spots and learning combo attack, setting up a combo. All mental and thinking. Plus cause and effect is easy since itachi trained himself
The Tsykuyomi awakening someone's ms is actually really interesting and a good argument
Side point: I believe that the Uchihas brought back as villains is a strong idea. Just Madara was brought back by Obito which himself was an Uchiha as well in Naruto. It would cool to see them bring Itachi back under some Jutsu and having Sasuke, Sadara, and Bortuo dealing with this in some sort of way.
Hey Nick do something on that slit in the ground(logs looked to hold together) when Naruto was chasing Deidara. Looks like a cut in the earth from maybe a Susano sword...
For the training part one thing that I think could work would be to train someone to be on the same level as the caster in something. like say shirken Justu or tai Justu since its just getting someone to your level you would know how that training would feel and what it would take then if you train like that for long enough with the sensations you could possibly develop the muscle memory to reproduce the movements in the real world ….. so everyone being at anbu caption level of skill in itachis case
Dude, I must say, that I watch your content every single day. I appretiate you, and your love for anime reminds me of my older brother, good job!
Also, itachi’s battle iq and iq is sooo underrated…
The neurological aspects of Tsukuyomi and by in large genjutsu are quite impressive. To control someone's 5 senses, a genjutsu user must keep 5 specific regions of the brain 🧠 in perfect homeostasis: occipital cortex (sight), temporal association areas (hearing), olfactory bulb (smell), gustatory cortex (taste), parietal lobe (touch). However, it's more important for the genjutsu user not to disrupt the victim's biological processes. Maintaining control of the hypothalamus, medulla complex, and parasympathetic/sympathetic nervous system is more important. Didn't mean to do a deep dive on this. Awesome content.
One angle that I can think of for the Hyperbolic Chamber idea would be something like Sasaki Kojiro's mental training and predictions from "Record of Ragnarok". Where he gets some level of understanding of his opponent and then creates scenarios in his head where he fights them (AND LOSES) again and again and again until he finally beats them.
I imagine Itachi can do much the same thing. Gather intel on an enemy (active or would-be) and then use the Tsukuyomi to construct a scene where he and/or whoever he is working with fight that enemy AS IS over and over untik they work out a proper winning strategy. No, it still isnt physical training. But you get some IDEA of what you're up against and can make a plan on how to handle it.
the main benifit to training in the tsukiomi universe would be mental training and tactics, itachi could mentor naruto on battle tactics and show what could happen if certain choices are made, i dont think it would function as a we both get stronger button, more so a catch up mechanic for someone lacking in battle knowledge or so to learn it. the difference in affectiveness a person has on a battle field is greatly affected by battle knowledge and itachi has tons of that, he is a tactical genius so he could likely train someone like naruto to better understand combat and how to be effective. best way i can kind of give an example of how that could work is: lets say itachi is a pro gamer at a shooter game, and naruto is bottom tier trash at the game, itachi could teach naruto the fundamentals of the game like getting behind cover and knowing when to use super moves and what to do in certain situations, the meta and such, and while naruto may not come out with the reflexes to pull off top tier play he would likely atleast move up to being a mid tier or higher player instead of being bottom rung and running into bullets headfirst
Tsukuyomi feels like a dream realm to me. Genjutsu itself seems like a dream state. especially because if the way characters normally get out of a genjustsu trap
I seem to recall it being stated somewhere in Naruto that all living things on the planet have chakra which obviously would include the Aburame clan bugs. Not much of a plot hole cuz I'm not sure where you got the information that they don't have their own chakra network but I remember it being stated somewhere that everything on the planet has chakra. I seem to even recall it being said that there's some form of chocolate even inanimate objects but that one I could be wrong about. It may just be pothole that all living things have chakra but still. 9:26
I'll watch this video and then I'll watch otakusanonymous new video 😊 thanks for the content!!
FYI, Itachi's genjutsu he put his GF in simulated their entire life together, in one picosecond. For reference, that is one trillionth of a second or 0.000000000001 of a second. This level of time measurment is normaly used to measuer the speed of light for an additional reference. So yea, he can change the time dialation to whatever he wants and to a rediculous degree.
Room of spirit of time wishes it was this usefull for training.
10:08 the bugs are attached to their hosts chakra, its logical that if the host was put under so would they
Madara trained Obito in genjutsu too. And it worked. So I think training in Tsukuyomi is very possible.
Nick must’ve been thumbing through his thesaurus this morning, he’s expanded his vocabulary past “myriad”
at this point they should just grab itachi out of the purelands again by sacrificing Sasukes remaining eye, THAT SHOULD WORK since because he has EMS Itachis DNA is partially within Sasukes eyes.
Nice, as usual. Just a thought. So the Rasengan Uzuhiko is effectively the Two Blue Vortex, therefore equating some form of Whole-Body Enveloping Rasengan, just of some unique meld, which Boruto’s Vanishing Rasengan was the precedent for… can you come up with a Theoretical Implications thereof?
Going back to the time chamber. It wouldn't work physically but I think it would work mentally/spiritually alot better than you think.
Jutsu tend to get stronger the more you use them. Not because of some rpg leveling system but because your Chakra network and your mind will adapt to make the Chakra control of thst jutsu easier and faster. Basically imagine itachi inventing a jutsu that need 1000 handsigns. Then using tsukiyomi he trains to mentally understand the jutsu to the point where he just needs 1 hand sign to do
Hey Nick but Naruto is able to train with his Shadow Clones that how he masters Rasen-Shuriken and Sage Mode with the combined/learned xp from all his shadow clones. But i know his clones are different because he learned the forbidden shadow clone jutsu scroll.
I don’t think he could use it for the eternal mangekyo but I think he could cause someone to experience a tragic loss that feels so real the he can trigger a regular sharingun to the mangekyo without anyone really dying which that on its own is good. Obito never had the EMS and was broke with just the MS ability. So I agree with you on that one for sure.
Think about Shikamaru with Tsukuyomi, he could dip out and think about a plan for as long as needed before talking politics.
Or taking all the other Kage into Tsukuyomi in the normal room and with the normal talks they were in already, but make them pick the negative options in the talks and have the bad outcome playout
I just finished watching the Itachi vs Kabuto battle and wow now I see why Itachi is such a beloved character. His philosophy and wisdom is second to none in a show filled with wise characters. I lamented earlier about how great it would have been to have a sensei in Konaha of his substance. Both Naruto and Sasuke would have been very different people had he been there to guide them. I think he could be Kishimoto’s masterpiece in terms of character writing. I’m in awe.
Wait a minute, I don’t know if I’M the one caught in a Tsukiyomi, but I vaguely feel like you’ve made this exact video, with the same title and thumbnail template, at least 3 times before hand.
Good show mate🖤
Theoretically tsyukomi could be Itachi’s personal dimension just like Kaguya’s.
its a reason y we all love itachi, we. can related to his mind.
29:26 I feel like kid Sasuke should’ve awoken a ms when itachi put him in the genjustu where he killed his parents again and again