Ok here's an update in 2023. The key this year is redundant systems because anthracite coal is so high ($410) a ton. I have 4 redundant systems in which to heat the house. Two systems can be used with no electric and all 4 can be used with electricity. I have been forced into burning firewood during the day (14 hrs) and I burn the coal at night.I have only been through 3/4 of a ton so far. I can augment the heat supply with a hot water furnace powered by fuel oil when it's really cold and also my two Mr Cool Mini-splits during mild temps above 20 degrees. Now for neigh sayers that like to bash my stove for being inefficient. It only burns 15 pieces of wood in 14 hrs, and the stove only burns one 5 gallon bucket at night (10 hrs) Oh and I power my electric systems with my on grid solar system. When electric goes down I have a small inverter generator and a Pro Trans2 manual switching system.
Along with my leisure line ak-110 I recently bought a hitzer 50-93 that can be ran without electricity. You can burn coal or wood in that stove, so there are options there.
This is the best tutorial on Cole I have ever seen. Unfortunately the price of coal has gone up to $500 in my area so I won’t be using the coal stove anymore. 9:199:19
I purchased a harman 1 coal stove used as oil went to $5. Stove about 25 years old. Door gaskets paint good as new. Coal $375 ton. Definitely learning curve. Out off all videos yours best. Very good tips. I was a little frustrated. Incredible heat. Little unit heats my whole 3000 foot cape in Connecticut. Living room 85 and rest of house 65 but fine with us. 40 pounds a day in 20deg weather.. thanks for shaker tip. Not sure I will do it for 25 years but helping us get through inflation.
I’ve had my Kodiak for 15 years now. And the top down starting method is the only way I’ve ever done it. I’ve watched so many UA-cam channels on using coal stoves. And not one have I seen start the fire that way. They don’t know what they’re missing. Great information. Thanks for sharing. By the way, do you have a blower on the stove?
@@ann2155 I use top down starting method each time for the wood fire startup...and yes i have a blower on the stove controlled by an app so I can turn it on and off even if i'm not home
@@plnthrd so in your video you’re talking about the coal stove. Am I correct in saying that you’re burning coal in the stove behind you and not wood? The reason I ask. Is that as we were watching and listening I said to my son he’s got a blower on that stove. My son says how do you know that? And I said the height of the flame. As I said previously, I’ve use the coal stove for 15 years and I don’t get flame like that and there’s no blower on mine. But there may be soon. Great info.
@@ann2155 what you see burning in the stove is wood to get the hot bed of embers ready for the coal application. You are confusing the fan for air coming from outside. My stove has no air from the outside only air from inside the house. The height of the flame is controlled by how much air is being allowed into the stove. My fan only blows through a pair of tubes built into the stove (picture a fan merely blowing over the stove itself). You are correct in saying the flame isn't like that with coal. With coal is more of a deep red bed of embers when run wide open. It will dance a blue flame if you cover the bed of embers with a new layer of coal. I hope that answers your questions, thanks for commenting
You mention this stove is old. What do you do if the grates burn out, or something else fails? Can you still get spare parts for these stoves? That seems like an awfully large amount of coal to be burning.
The stove is about twenty-five years old and yes I can still get parts for it. The stove I had before this one was a Vermont Castings stove but they discontinued the parts when they decided to stop building coal burners. Both stoves burned about the same amount of coal. I think the amount of coal i burn has more to do with the inefficiency of the house and the inside temperature i like to maintain in the winter
How often do you shake the grates. I have a hitzer 50-93 that im using for the first time and i seem to be losing alot of coal through my grates. Almost enough to reclaim to feed my franco belge.
@@jreg0028 I avoid much shaking of the grates.... usually about 6 hours...I also never move the grates the full stroke of the handle, only about 1/4". I only shake them just enough to see a minimal amount of red coals in the Ashtray
Have you had any issues after shaking down all of the ashes to establish a fresh bed of coals and 20 minutes later you get popping noises or mini internal explosions? I understand why this could happen, but I'm just not sure if it's normal.
Clinkers are the large unburned stone looking pieces, one commenter said it is sometimes pieces of shale imbedded in the anthracite coal and he's probably correct, another commenter said it was the melting of ash from burning to hot, I don't think that's correct at all, I never exceed 550 degrees internal temp. Sometimes you get clinkers sometimes you don't. I get them very rarely, so maybe there is something to the shale idea
I’ve been burning coal for over 25yrs, the last 15 with an automatic rice stove. I really got spoiled with it, fill the hopper and empty ash pan was no fun, so I just down graded to a pot belly, learned quick that it’s a totally different beast. I’m burning anthracite but I’m gonna try some pochohantis in it soon, it’s little harder than bituminous, and is easier to light.
How do you clean you liner? I have a company telling me I can’t have the same setup as you because there is no way to clean liner without removing the entire stove ?
@@plnthrd thank you so much for getting back to me. That’s the exact same setup I want to have. I just bought a used mark 3 with a rear outlet. These companies are telling me that I have to extend my hearth out more because they want a foot on either side to service my stove. They tell me nobody will want to clean my liner because they will have to physically move the stove out which will pull the liner down. I dont understand what I’m missing. Do you have to pull your entire stove out to clean the liner? How are you able to reach the “T” behind the stove? Did you have to knock out any bricks at the bottom of your chimney? Maybe you could make a video because it’s going to cost me $$$ to extend my hearth and I don’t think I need too by looking at your setup.
I just bought a second hand Harmon 1 coal stove. How is yours installed in fireplace ? I don’t see venting instructions for this fire place installation , The pipe runs up tru damper into chimney?
I have a 6-in round stainless steel liner in my chimney that is attached to a t one side of the t is capped off on the bottom and the middle of the t runs into the back entry to my stove...there is no real space to install a damper on mine...but with a smaller Harman there might be
I installed my Harmon 1 in front of fire place with 6 single wall turned up and 2 foot piece up through the damper removed into tile flue. It’s an interior chimney middle of house. It’s seems to work great and draft fine
@@chuckhooper5215 when I had my old Vermont Castings coal stove I had removed the fireplace damper then bought a block off plate with the 6" opening in it to seal off my smoke shelf, after a chimney fire which damaged the 12x 12 flue tiles I had a stainless flue installed and the company totally sealed off the smoke shelf and filled the remaining void between the two with a vermiculite based mortar then a cap was installed on the top
Yes. I’m a Connecticut plumber. I made a steel shelf blank off for mine as well. Unless you purchased a very heavy stainless liner it may not have more than a couple years longevity coal is hard on them. Did you have other appliances that caused chimney fire ? Very unusual for coal alone.
@@chuckhooper5215 oh it's heavy duty stainless... it's been in for 20 years now... chimney fire was when I burned wood.. That and the glue was way too large to get a good draft
I have a thermometer in that pot....that pot sits on a piece of 1/4" cement board with a hole cut in the middle on top of the heat exchanger...temp is normally 120 degrees
Does your stove have a blower ? I have a keystoker 90k btu stove in my 1800 sf house and burn between 3 and 4 ton a year . I just installed a hand fired hitzer in my garage so far I love it .
scroll down through my videos to the one called "What does this stove fan have in common with the Irobot vacuum?" I've had two of these things and to be honest I'm not impressed with either one, they really don't move much air, I think they are more of a novelty. Once this one dies i think i'm done with them
Man, I really wanted to take my wood stove out for a coal stove, this was before Brandon took office. Coal was about $ 150 bucks a ton in Virginia. Guess I'm going to keep splitting wood..
I just watched thru your coal videos - all are great 👍. Not much UA-cam videos on burning coal for heat. I've put one video up on tending our DS stove but should definitely make more to get the knowledge out there. Guys that run stoves typically aren't the modern high tech kinda people to be out there putting videos on UA-cam LoL.
I don't see your video on tending your ds stove. I'd love to see it! As you said, there aren't many videos on burning coal and I'm considering an anthramax in the next 2 or 3 years. Just finished installing my aarrow/stratford sc75 on Saturday and I am loving it so far. But I love the idea of having a hopper and that famed ds efficiency
@@Sonofamitch69 ua-cam.com/video/aomh4JqvWlI/v-deo.html. It's on my other account not under this name. I also recently uploaded a startup lighting video a few weeks ago on the same channel
Also can you talk about the distance requirements and how you have what looks like tile on the wall but what about floor and isn’t the washer to close to the stove?
There's no clearance problems that is the hearth of what used to be a fireplace I've used my stove as an insert I removed the legs from it and put it right on the hearth the tile below on the floor doesn't even get warm, I put the tile down years ago when I had carpet to the edge of the hearth, I wanted some safety space. I don't know what you mean by the washer
@@plnthrd thank you I have 5 chimneys 1 open coal and the rest bricked up to a whole for a pipe except the hole is at 24 inches how can I put a stove in that…. Which is why I’m watching all these including your videos to learn. The thing to the right of the stove looks like a washing machine
@@plnthrd wouldn’t that be nice if only they had some around. Talk about high demand occupation. To much Govt requirements to much licensing to much insurance no one can fill the positions when the old guy retires which the only one guy servicing this whole area retired. They have a few up in VA but they cannot come to NC because they are not licensed in NC.
Thanks for all the information! I am currently looking at the Harman Mark II or III to burn wood. Have you burned wood in your Harman coal stove? I like the addition of the easy clean grating system the coal stoves have. I wish more wood stoves had this type of feature.
@@plnthrd do you put any thing over the grate system when exclusively burning wood or does everything work fine as is. How much burn time do you get with wood normally?
@@brentnaegele7028 no nothing over the grates....but when I burn just wood I close off all outside air...just let it suck from around the glass....burn time depends on the species of wood...but not long either way.... .
If you consider "smokeless coal" as anthracite then yes. I burn anthracite over night because it lasts 12 hrs, then in the morning i throw some logs on to burn through the daylight hours
@@carmenbecker2660 this Harman Mark III has a secondary burn system.....the secondary burn idea has to do with burning the smoke completely to reduce emissions, I've never noticed any increased burn time because of that
The money you'll save by not needing your chimney liner swept will offset any increase in the price of coal. Burn wood and coal if you have to but don't stop burning coal. If you do you'll be spending more time and energy cutting, spliting and stacking wood that you'll just ultimately go back to coal
well yes and no......there comes a point where cost per BTU is no longer worth it...i get it about the labor end of burning wood and the chimney cleaning. ....I just priced coal as of today and it now rests at $435 a ton but sure to go up as the season progresses....i'm still going to burn wood during the day and coal at night
Are you burning Anthracite or bituminous? Five 5 gallon buckets a day is an enormous amount , no damper you're definitely losing a great amount of heat up your chimney.
just bought bituminous coal this season (used anthracite first year but now 525 a ton). I have a coal hopper, I fired stove up with wood, good bed of coals, added coal to hopper and within a few minutes my stove "exploded" 2-3 times.. scared the shit out of me.. when I open the door to look what was happening, the damn thing exploded again and burnt the hair off my arms!!! What the hell is going on? Please let me know.. thx.. and you are absolutely 💯 correct on the "Brandon" thing
I had one supplier mix in some bituminous coal with anthracite on me once. It burned this weird orange fire...I never used that guy again....never exploded on me though
I try to be open minded on UA-cam, but trolling and calling me an idiot because the fire burning in the stove in this video is wood, well yes it is because all coal fires are started with a bed of wood coals. But to call me an idiot and say I know nothing about burning coal is not only insulting but childish, and won't be tolerated, please be respectful, I'm only trying to help first timers. Maybe if that commenter had actually watched the whole video his accusations would have been answered.
Sorry to hear about biden phucking things up Lol, that was funny. But thanks, I just bought second hand, the largest Harmon coal burner, model TLC- 2000, 2014 In Anchorage for $1500. I’m excited. I learned a lot from this video and I subscribed! I was left a little money and decided to put in a hot tub and a wood stove. Semi retired! Thanks
The neighbors just moved out of a bad area in Florida because of BLM and had a new furnace put in but they cannot afford to fill the tank to heat their house. They have one chimney that was converted to the fuel same as furnace so they are looking at removing the system to get back to burning wood. People need to vote better !
Can you share where to buy coal in bulk? I’ve bought 40lb bags from tractor supply but would like to buy a few tons to get ready for the next few years. Also I’m burning in a coal fireplace and the five chimneys have been closed up to a ceramic hole I guess to burn from a stove. So I’ve bought a few stoves some coal some wood. I’ve bought $300 worth of wood but it’s new and not seasoned I’m still trying to figure everything out. The house is old over 100years. I’m trying to get prepared so when the Russians and Chinese make contact on the west coast and light up the east coast and the grid goes down I have heat and an ability to cook. So any information you can provide is definitely appreciated I would not recommend stopping burning coal since the USA and world is heated for trouble. Your stove and set up might save your neighborhood.
Yikes, so many questions..lol...I had a chimney fire years ago from burning firewood exclusively. The flue liner cracked and I had to have a stainless steel insert installed inside the chimney, my tools have been around here for years so i can't really give you a source on them. Where I get my coal wouldn't do you much good, I am on the east cost. I can tell you however that coal is far less expensive in bulk rather than by the bag. Coal this year has jumped a lot! it was $280 and the end of last year, but this year a ton is $405!
@@plnthrd I’m also on the east coast for this winter so need to get things going now before it’s 20 degrees and I cannot leave the electric blanket bed! I still need a supplier of bulk coal that can be dump trucked to my backyard!
I will have to do the math to better understand cost of operation . It’s not in combustion efficiency or direct cost of fuel. Many more things go into account. . I found it so easy to deliver 4 tons of bagged coal vs days of firewood detail. Ever cut and split wood ? Along with seasoning and storage. Also my harman 1 coal seems to be triple the heat of my Kodiak wood insert. I need to get better at the coal. The heat is extreme and closing the air down to slow fire at night causes incomplete burn. The past couple nights I turned down air and it’s seems to be out by 6 with unturned coals on top of ash. During to day keeping air open burns complete and I just add a little every 4 hours
Here's a really cool chart of how to compare fuels, you insert your local price for fuels and it will tell you the best bang for the buck BTU wise coalpail.com/fuel-comparison-calculator-home-heating Oh hell yes I still cut and split wood thankfully only a few cords a year now but back in the day i burned 9 cords a year!
Ok here's an update in 2023. The key this year is redundant systems because anthracite coal is so high ($410) a ton. I have 4 redundant systems in which to heat the house. Two systems can be used with no electric and all 4 can be used with electricity. I have been forced into burning firewood during the day (14 hrs) and I burn the coal at night.I have only been through 3/4 of a ton so far. I can augment the heat supply with a hot water furnace powered by fuel oil when it's really cold and also my two Mr Cool Mini-splits during mild temps above 20 degrees. Now for neigh sayers that like to bash my stove for being inefficient. It only burns 15 pieces of wood in 14 hrs, and the stove only burns one 5 gallon bucket at night (10 hrs) Oh and I power my electric systems with my on grid solar system. When electric goes down I have a small inverter generator and a Pro Trans2 manual switching system.
Along with my leisure line ak-110 I recently bought a hitzer 50-93 that can be ran without electricity. You can burn coal or wood in that stove, so there are options there.
This is the best tutorial on Cole I have ever seen. Unfortunately the price of coal has gone up to $500 in my area so I won’t be using the coal stove anymore. 9:19 9:19
I purchased a harman 1 coal stove used as oil went to $5. Stove about 25 years old. Door gaskets paint good as new. Coal $375 ton. Definitely learning curve. Out off all videos yours best. Very good tips. I was a little frustrated. Incredible heat. Little unit heats my whole 3000 foot cape in Connecticut. Living room 85 and rest of house 65 but fine with us. 40 pounds a day in 20deg weather.. thanks for shaker tip. Not sure I will do it for 25 years but helping us get through inflation.
Top down burn method is a game changer. I started that 3 years ago. When I told my dad he was shocked that it even worked...
yea i started doing that last year, woks pretty good!
I’ve had my Kodiak for 15 years now. And the top down starting method is the only way I’ve ever done it. I’ve watched so many UA-cam channels on using coal stoves. And not one have I seen start the fire that way. They don’t know what they’re missing. Great information. Thanks for sharing. By the way, do you have a blower on the stove?
@@ann2155 I use top down starting method each time for the wood fire startup...and yes i have a blower on the stove controlled by an app so I can turn it on and off even if i'm not home
@@plnthrd so in your video you’re talking about the coal stove. Am I correct in saying that you’re burning coal in the stove behind you and not wood? The reason I ask. Is that as we were watching and listening I said to my son he’s got a blower on that stove. My son says how do you know that? And I said the height of the flame. As I said previously, I’ve use the coal stove for 15 years and I don’t get flame like that and there’s no blower on mine. But there may be soon. Great info.
@@ann2155 what you see burning in the stove is wood to get the hot bed of embers ready for the coal application. You are confusing the fan for air coming from outside. My stove has no air from the outside only air from inside the house. The height of the flame is controlled by how much air is being allowed into the stove. My fan only blows through a pair of tubes built into the stove (picture a fan merely blowing over the stove itself). You are correct in saying the flame isn't like that with coal. With coal is more of a deep red bed of embers when run wide open. It will dance a blue flame if you cover the bed of embers with a new layer of coal. I hope that answers your questions, thanks for commenting
You mention this stove is old. What do you do if the grates burn out, or something else fails? Can you still get spare parts for these stoves? That seems like an awfully large amount of coal to be burning.
The stove is about twenty-five years old and yes I can still get parts for it. The stove I had before this one was a Vermont Castings stove but they discontinued the parts when they decided to stop building coal burners. Both stoves burned about the same amount of coal. I think the amount of coal i burn has more to do with the inefficiency of the house and the inside temperature i like to maintain in the winter
How often do you shake the grates. I have a hitzer 50-93 that im using for the first time and i seem to be losing alot of coal through my grates. Almost enough to reclaim to feed my franco belge.
@@jreg0028 I avoid much shaking of the grates.... usually about 6 hours...I also never move the grates the full stroke of the handle, only about 1/4". I only shake them just enough to see a minimal amount of red coals in the Ashtray
Thank you for the tip
Have you had any issues after shaking down all of the ashes to establish a fresh bed of coals and 20 minutes later you get popping noises or mini internal explosions? I understand why this could happen, but I'm just not sure if it's normal.
Great and informative video! Tell me more about clinkers, how do I get it to burn more completly?
Clinkers are the large unburned stone looking pieces, one commenter said it is sometimes pieces of shale imbedded in the anthracite coal and he's probably correct, another commenter said it was the melting of ash from burning to hot, I don't think that's correct at all, I never exceed 550 degrees internal temp. Sometimes you get clinkers sometimes you don't. I get them very rarely, so maybe there is something to the shale idea
I’ve been burning coal for over 25yrs, the last 15 with an automatic rice stove. I really got spoiled with it, fill the hopper and empty ash pan was no fun, so I just down graded to a pot belly, learned quick that it’s a totally different beast. I’m burning anthracite but I’m gonna try some pochohantis in it soon, it’s little harder than bituminous, and is easier to light.
hand fed stoves are a whole nother beast for sure!
How do you clean you liner? I have a company telling me I can’t have the same setup as you because there is no way to clean liner without removing the entire stove ?
My stove has a rear exit and attached to that is a Tee with a cap on the bottom. Undo 2 screws and the cap comes off to clean the liner
@@plnthrd thank you so much for getting back to me.
That’s the exact same setup I want to have. I just bought a used mark 3 with a rear outlet. These companies are telling me that I have to extend my hearth out more because they want a foot on either side to service my stove. They tell me nobody will want to clean my liner because they will have to physically move the stove out which will pull the liner down.
I dont understand what I’m missing. Do you have to pull your entire stove out to clean the liner? How are you able to reach the “T” behind the stove? Did you have to knock out any bricks at the bottom of your chimney?
Maybe you could make a video because it’s going to cost me $$$ to extend my hearth and I don’t think I need too by looking at your setup.
I just bought a second hand Harmon 1 coal stove. How is yours installed in fireplace ? I don’t see venting instructions for this fire place installation , The pipe runs up tru damper into chimney?
I have a 6-in round stainless steel liner in my chimney that is attached to a t one side of the t is capped off on the bottom and the middle of the t runs into the back entry to my stove...there is no real space to install a damper on mine...but with a smaller Harman there might be
I installed my Harmon 1 in front of fire place with 6 single wall turned up and 2 foot piece up through the damper removed into tile flue. It’s an interior chimney middle of house. It’s seems to work great and draft fine
@@chuckhooper5215 when I had my old Vermont Castings coal stove I had removed the fireplace damper then bought a block off plate with the 6" opening in it to seal off my smoke shelf, after a chimney fire which damaged the 12x 12 flue tiles I had a stainless flue installed and the company totally sealed off the smoke shelf and filled the remaining void between the two with a vermiculite based mortar then a cap was installed on the top
Yes. I’m a Connecticut plumber. I made a steel shelf blank off for mine as well. Unless you purchased a very heavy stainless liner it may not have more than a couple years longevity coal is hard on them. Did you have other appliances that caused chimney fire ? Very unusual for coal alone.
@@chuckhooper5215 oh it's heavy duty stainless... it's been in for 20 years now... chimney fire was when I burned wood..
That and the glue was way too large to get a good draft
How hot does the water get in your pot on top of your Stove? I want to try heating water also but don’t want it to boil.
I have a thermometer in that pot....that pot sits on a piece of 1/4" cement board with a hole cut in the middle on top of the heat exchanger...temp is normally 120 degrees
Does your stove have a blower ? I have a keystoker 90k btu stove in my 1800 sf house and burn between 3 and 4 ton a year . I just installed a hand fired hitzer in my garage so far I love it .
yes i have a blower
Thanks for the info. Is that a heat exchanger on top, under the pot?
Yes it is scroll back through my videos to see how it works
@@plnthrd Thanks!
What is the pipe coming out of the floor and going to the top of stove for?
It's a heat exchanger that goes into the basement to heat the basement look for my other video on what is that thing on top of your stove for
What model of stove top fan are you using? Looking to replace ours.
scroll down through my videos to the one called "What does this stove fan have in common with the Irobot vacuum?" I've had two of these things and to be honest I'm not impressed with either one, they really don't move much air, I think they are more of a novelty. Once this one dies i think i'm done with them
Where do you buy coal at
well I buy mine right at the MD/PA border, but that probably won't help you if you don't live close by
@@plnthrd I don’t know of anyone that sells coal in my area
@@CSXOhioRailFanPlus752 sorry to hear that
Where are your links to buy all the products you are recommending? The little shovel scoop, the pipes, the stove, the coal. Help!
Man, I really wanted to take my wood stove out for a coal stove, this was before Brandon took office. Coal was about $ 150 bucks a ton in Virginia. Guess I'm going to keep splitting wood..
Thanks for your video here. I’m considering adding a coal stove as well.
best of luck! just remember to check for a supplier before you buy!
I get a lot of clinkers. Coal that doesn't turn into dust. What can I do to get a complete burn that turns the coal into dust?
What stove temp are you running?
I’ve been buying propane for 23 years and this past spring was the most expensive it’s ever been for me. Let’s Go Brandon!
Get on coal now get your stoves set up and supply set for winter. You still have time to run tests and make adjustments.
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I just watched thru your coal videos - all are great 👍. Not much UA-cam videos on burning coal for heat. I've put one video up on tending our DS stove but should definitely make more to get the knowledge out there. Guys that run stoves typically aren't the modern high tech kinda people to be out there putting videos on UA-cam LoL.
I don't see your video on tending your ds stove. I'd love to see it! As you said, there aren't many videos on burning coal and I'm considering an anthramax in the next 2 or 3 years. Just finished installing my aarrow/stratford sc75 on Saturday and I am loving it so far. But I love the idea of having a hopper and that famed ds efficiency
@@Sonofamitch69 ua-cam.com/video/aomh4JqvWlI/v-deo.html. It's on my other account not under this name. I also recently uploaded a startup lighting video a few weeks ago on the same channel
Also can you talk about the distance requirements and how you have what looks like tile on the wall but what about floor and isn’t the washer to close to the stove?
There's no clearance problems that is the hearth of what used to be a fireplace I've used my stove as an insert I removed the legs from it and put it right on the hearth the tile below on the floor doesn't even get warm, I put the tile down years ago when I had carpet to the edge of the hearth, I wanted some safety space. I don't know what you mean by the washer
@@plnthrd thank you I have 5 chimneys 1 open coal and the rest bricked up to a whole for a pipe except the hole is at 24 inches how can I put a stove in that…. Which is why I’m watching all these including your videos to learn. The thing to the right of the stove looks like a washing machine
@@atkgrl you should probably have a professional chimney expert come in and look at your situation and make a recommendation
@@plnthrd wouldn’t that be nice if only they had some around. Talk about high demand occupation. To much Govt requirements to much licensing to much insurance no one can fill the positions when the old guy retires which the only one guy servicing this whole area retired. They have a few up in VA but they cannot come to NC because they are not licensed in NC.
Thanks for all the information! I am currently looking at the Harman Mark II or III to burn wood. Have you burned wood in your Harman coal stove? I like the addition of the easy clean grating system the coal stoves have. I wish more wood stoves had this type of feature.
Yes of course I burn wood in it..... sometimes exclusively...and other times just to start the coal
@@plnthrd do you put any thing over the grate system when exclusively burning wood or does everything work fine as is. How much burn time do you get with wood normally?
@@brentnaegele7028 no nothing over the grates....but when I burn just wood I close off all outside air...just let it suck from around the glass....burn time depends on the species of wood...but not long either way....
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Maybe 6 hrs max and only if I fill it to the top
@@brentnaegele7028 I put 4 fire bricks on top of the shakers and burn my wood on top of them.
Is it ok to burn smokeless coal and logs at the same time?
If you consider "smokeless coal" as anthracite then yes. I burn anthracite over night because it lasts 12 hrs, then in the morning i throw some logs on to burn through the daylight hours
People do, but you shouldn't.
If you switch back to wood will you use that stove or get something else?
stay with this stove it burned wood pretty well too
What are your thoughts on the new wood stoves that have secondary burn systems to achieve longer burns
@@carmenbecker2660 this Harman Mark III has a secondary burn system.....the secondary burn idea has to do with burning the smoke completely to reduce emissions, I've never noticed any increased burn time because of that
Very informative video. Appreciate it!
The money you'll save by not needing your chimney liner swept will offset any increase in the price of coal. Burn wood and coal if you have to but don't stop burning coal. If you do you'll be spending more time and energy cutting, spliting and stacking wood that you'll just ultimately go back to coal
well yes and no......there comes a point where cost per BTU is no longer worth it...i get it about the labor end of burning wood and the chimney cleaning. ....I just priced coal as of today and it now rests at $435 a ton but sure to go up as the season progresses....i'm still going to burn wood during the day and coal at night
@@plnthrd I got two tons of bagged antracite for $651.00 at the end of July. That's $325.50 per ton
@@LostBeagle wow good price! bagged is far more than bulk down here
Are you burning Anthracite or bituminous? Five 5 gallon buckets a day is an enormous amount , no damper you're definitely losing a great amount of heat up your chimney.
anthracite...no room for a damper it's a fireplace insert.....
Great series. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
And #LetsGoBrandon 😂😂😂
just bought bituminous coal this season (used anthracite first year but now 525 a ton). I have a coal hopper, I fired stove up with wood, good bed of coals, added coal to hopper and within a few minutes my stove "exploded" 2-3 times.. scared the shit out of me.. when I open the door to look what was happening, the damn thing exploded again and burnt the hair off my arms!!!
What the hell is going on?
Please let me know.. thx.. and you are absolutely 💯 correct on the "Brandon" thing
I had one supplier mix in some bituminous coal with anthracite on me once. It burned this weird orange fire...I never used that guy again....never exploded on me though
I try to be open minded on UA-cam, but trolling and calling me an idiot because the fire burning in the stove in this video is wood, well yes it is because all coal fires are started with a bed of wood coals. But to call me an idiot and say I know nothing about burning coal is not only insulting but childish, and won't be tolerated, please be respectful, I'm only trying to help first timers. Maybe if that commenter had actually watched the whole video his accusations would have been answered.
I am seeing this video two years later. Are you really not burning coal anymore?
only burn it during the overnight hours
Stoker stoves use a slide tray not augers
My AK-110 goes through 4-5 tons a year. Oct.-Mar...
if there's slate in the coal it won't turn to dust.
Sorry to hear about biden phucking things up Lol, that was funny. But thanks, I just bought second hand, the largest Harmon coal burner, model TLC- 2000, 2014 In Anchorage for $1500. I’m excited.
I learned a lot from this video and I subscribed! I was left a little money and decided to put in a hot tub and a wood stove. Semi retired!
Thanks
I learned a lot. Fellow Marylander here
what area of MD?
@@plnthrd Deale. About 20 minutes south of Annapolis. How about you?
@@erichwoodall2897 Cockeysville 15 miles north of Baltimore
Eastern Shore near Tilghman Island here 😊
Coal was 150 per ton last summer and propane was $1.40/gal....this summer it was 330 a ton and $2.20/gal......LETS. GO. BRANDON!
The neighbors just moved out of a bad area in Florida because of BLM and had a new furnace put in but they cannot afford to fill the tank to heat their house. They have one chimney that was converted to the fuel same as furnace so they are looking at removing the system to get back to burning wood. People need to vote better !
Can you share where to buy coal in bulk? I’ve bought 40lb bags from tractor supply but would like to buy a few tons to get ready for the next few years.
Also I’m burning in a coal fireplace and the five chimneys have been closed up to a ceramic hole I guess to burn from a stove. So I’ve bought a few stoves some coal some wood. I’ve bought $300 worth of wood but it’s new and not seasoned I’m still trying to figure everything out. The house is old over 100years. I’m trying to get prepared so when the Russians and Chinese make contact on the west coast and light up the east coast and the grid goes down I have heat and an ability to cook. So any information you can provide is definitely appreciated
I would not recommend stopping burning coal since the USA and world is heated for trouble. Your stove and set up might save your neighborhood.
Yikes, so many questions..lol...I had a chimney fire years ago from burning firewood exclusively. The flue liner cracked and I had to have a stainless steel insert installed inside the chimney, my tools have been around here for years so i can't really give you a source on them. Where I get my coal wouldn't do you much good, I am on the east cost. I can tell you however that coal is far less expensive in bulk rather than by the bag. Coal this year has jumped a lot! it was $280 and the end of last year, but this year a ton is $405!
@@plnthrd I’m also on the east coast for this winter so need to get things going now before it’s 20 degrees and I cannot leave the electric blanket bed! I still need a supplier of bulk coal that can be dump trucked to my backyard!
@@atkgrl what state are you in?
@@plnthrd NC
@@plnthrd eastern close to the shore close to 95
Haha let's go Brandon😂 never gets old
I will have to do the math to better understand cost of operation . It’s not in combustion efficiency or direct cost of fuel. Many more things go into account. . I found it so easy to deliver 4 tons of bagged coal vs days of firewood detail. Ever cut and split wood ? Along with seasoning and storage. Also my harman 1 coal seems to be triple the heat of my Kodiak wood insert. I need to get better at the coal. The heat is extreme and closing the air down to slow fire at night causes incomplete burn. The past couple nights I turned down air and it’s seems to be out by 6 with unturned coals on top of ash. During to day keeping air open burns complete and I just add a little every 4 hours
Here's a really cool chart of how to compare fuels, you insert your local price for fuels and it will tell you the best bang for the buck BTU wise coalpail.com/fuel-comparison-calculator-home-heating Oh hell yes I still cut and split wood thankfully only a few cords a year now but back in the day i burned 9 cords a year!
Let's go Brandon let's go friend
Biden and Obama
Very good information. Thank you. Live long and prosper. (lets go Brandon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!)