Troubleshoot a Polaris RZR/Ranger when hard to get in gear or creeping in gear
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- This video is telling you how to figure out what is causing your Polaris to creep in gear, hard to shift into gear and why the primary clutch is squealing
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I know it’s an older video but I appreciate your help. New clutch kit on the way, your video convinced me to condemn my clutch. And I’ll be using an impact as well!
Nice!!
Hands down the best clutch troubleshooting explanation that I have seen. Now I know I either have an alignment issue or a bearing issue based on what my sportsman is doing. Thanks a million!!!
Oh and I subscribed for sure!!!
@@Pey10_littleton Thanks
Dude, ummmm YOU have made the BEST video explaining in fine and clear detail! Absolutely amazing explaining and clarity! Thank you!
I appreciate that
Great job explaining these problems. I have a Cub Cadet Volunteer that grinds like heck putting into gear. I most likely have one of the 2 problems you described. Thank you
Great video! Just recently a Buddy brought over his general 1000, gun it then try an stop.... both feet on brake pedal and keeps on truckin' then put everything you got into the brakes then she'd stop and stall. Also no top end... Knew it had to be the primary. Belt wouldn't come off because primary was stuck. Took the primary off and all the rollers and all the weights were horribly worn yet clutch was very clean and one way bearing was like new. Rebuilt it in jig-time including the one way bearing and she runs like a champ!
Glad you got her going, in our experience replacing rollers etc is not a long term fix, seems that same clutch more times than not is right back in same spot again.
I have no doubt you are correct! It was startling to see this much carnage while the clutch was so clean...... i mean it was spotless clean. I guess it's likely just a clutch that's been assembled with parts machined way beyond acceptable tolerances.
This is the best video on clutches
Thank u
Have a 2020 Ranger XP 1000 crew, bought it mostly to take grandkids out. When I 1st got 8t, spent @5-6 weeks at dealer with many calls to factory service. Issues were 1. "Walking" fwd or back with brake disengaged 2. Extremely hard to shift, would have to shut engine off 3. Loud "clunk" when shift between fwd or Rev. Dealer finally got approval to fix it. Replaced pairs in clutch & what they referred to a thrust bushing. It did great until recently, took 1 grand daughter out & noticed a strange noise for about 3 or 4 seconds while driving on hard surface dirt, @ 30/35 mph. A few weeks later, wife & I took out 2 adult friends. We took a trip through local foothills, for about 90 minutes, all was perfect, stopped for picnic, upon restart, loud sounds from rear , extremely hard to shift into low, had to "jam" shifter from park all the way to high. Finally got it into high, decided to cut our trip short, returned home. Dropped it off at dealer that afternoon was told 1st come, 1st served, which sounds reasonable. They told me the clutch may have failed, linkage needs adjustment, used primarily on hard surface dirt, occasionally on sand, low when climbing trails with hills. Have maybe 100 hours & just over 1500 miles. Mainly until recently, I traveled out of town a lot. N9w retired, I want to enjoy myself
This is very easily fixed check out our 21 primary or EBS delete kit an alignment procedure very easy and use our belt problems will be solved
Just another great video. You have been a lifesaver. And yes, I will remember you when I need a new belt.
Thanks
Thank you for making these videos your awesome!
Thanks for your comment
I like the way you say "bearing"
You mean like " Barren"
Thanks for the videos! Mine was hard to shift into gear, and with the help of the vids I was able to get it all fixed up. I'll buy from you as soon as I can!
What turned out to be wrong with it?
@@pappyodaniel8219 I just had to remove a shim, if memory serves. It was a while back, lol.
What did you find out was wrong ?
Probably the number 1 issue with all Polaris products is misaligned clutches from the factory. Some right off the show room floor of my dealer, some develop over time. 16+ XP Turbo Machines even though they say non adjustable clutch alignment you can use a snap ring delete kit to adjust alignment, even on 19-20 XP Turbo Machines without a snap ring holding the secondary you can still use the shims in the kit to align it.
Awesome video. My 15 rzr xp1000 is out of alignment and it’s hard to shift when running
WE sell the alignment tool for it
This is great information thank you for the video
Thanks
Love the breakdown and honesty!
Thank you
This is such a great video I am currently having tgis exact problem i did take the cover off and blew it out 15 hrs ago and the creepin and hard shifting went away. not it has returned and did the same process with no improvement. I did take a picture. If i dont have a response I will email. Thanks for the video. I do have a duraclutch as well
Has to go back to duraclutch, if bought from us sene me an email and I will get you a return authorization
@@Hunterworks Thanks for getting back with I actually purchased it from the directly Had to send it in once for a broken spring a few years ago.
@@johnbragg2690 You will have to check with them again, if a lot of miles might be time for a new one but either way, they will be the ones to help on this one
Awesome video and great explanation!
Super helpful video! Thanks
Also if your primary spring had lost tension it will allow the movable face to touch the belt at idle and cause the same issue. Hard to see this with the engine not running.
Very true
Thanks man I really appreciate it
No problem
Thank you so much well explained
Thank for the video, Once again you saved my ass.
You’re welcome
Great job!
do you have a video of how to replace the bearing on a Polaris?
We do ua-cam.com/video/5yzQ9O-7C4c/v-deo.html
Great description of the how the clutch works. Problem is my clutch on a 2002 Ranger 500 6x6 does not have a thrust bearing! It is just a shiny shat that spins with the Primary clutch. The belt is aligned properly and has the correct tension with no wear. The belt turns spinning the secondary clutch and causes grinding when trying to shift to High. I can put a board against the secondary and stop the belt and Secondary from spinning and the transmission will shift fine. I purchased a new Primary clutch and it is the same as the clutch on the machine. So, I guess my problem is internal to the transmission? If so, I still don't think the Secondary should be spinning as fast as it is. I have also turned the idle speed down to 800 RPM. Any thoughts?
I know you do not have a bearing and it is NOT in the trans so watch this video and see what you see feel free to email to me too. ua-cam.com/video/Yoi_YELCd9E/v-deo.htmlsi=D9Fn_J1rmgia-tp9
Great video. Thanks.
THanks
My issues are I’ve noticed that my clutch engagement seems to take more rpm’s. Acts like it starts to catch at the normal 1800-1900 range, but then real catches at about 2100. Also at times when I’m coming to a stop and it stalls the engine. Very hard to shift. Polaris 2019 xp1000 Northstar with about 2500 miles and original belt. Inside cover and clutch area is spotless, no dirt, belt debris, belt is smooth and not frayed. Will have to find the time to investigate further. Thanks!
Find our ranger video about EBS mechanism
@@Hunterworks already did, thanks!
@@terryclement9811 then email me
My 2020 northstar is doing the exact same thing @hunterworks inc I’ve already installed the updated Polaris one way bearing and inside half of the primary when under warranty. I’ve tried every position to place the shims for alignment and even with it aligned absolutely centered it still stays engaged when coming to a stop. Sometimes will stall and sometimes will disengage if I stab the brakes hard when coming to a stop. Does this sound like the primary is sticking when spreading apart?
I had them change my fluids on my ranger 1000 and find a hard shifting issue on hills, and now my machine needs about 4000rpm's to just start to move and never really engages. Is this some kind of adjustment issue they may have caused? the unit has 200 miles on it
year? and XP or non xp
Thank you sir..
Alignment as in steering alignment or alignment on that belt because mine actually has an alignment issue due to a wreck steering wheel is way out of whack but if you're not referring to that then I probably have the other alignment issue that you are referring to
We only deal in clutching so it’s engine to tranny alignment However if you had a wreck this is probably out also
Have a weird issue.
Shifts fine for first time. I take it for a drive. It doesn't shift anymore. until you shut it off to restart and then I'll shift again.
Sounds like the clutch is not wanting to open back up good, might need cleaning or have bad rollers and or weights
Fantastic explanation mate and hello from Australia.!
Our farm has a Bobcat diesel utv which is a Ranger in disguise, we have just fixed up the driveline and had to replace the primary clutch (genuine part replacement). on the initial testing in the shed everything is sweet but when i get some actual heat and load into the driveline, I experience two odd things.
1, The gears become hard to shift. It just feels like too much force is required to shift the gears. If I shut it down then it selects correctly.
2, I reckon its jerky on start and also intermittently when i stop the machine will jerk in the direction i was travelling, then settles down.
It does have a new heavy duty belt, big mud tyres on the rear and I haven't done anything to the driven clutch....
Any thoughts mate?
Thanks heaps!
Yes these models simply have bad clutching. We replace with the duraclutch. We don’t ship to AU but duraclutch themselves will
Champion.!
Much appreciated@@Hunterworks
My 11 rzr 800s grinds while shifting into any gear once the machine is warmed up but fine when it’s cold . thinking it’s my primary clutch
It is, sounds like the bearing might be dry but either way the issue is in the primary
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I’ve figured out that it is a alignment issue but I have a 2005 sportsman 700 ebs model and I can’t find a alignment tool
That is a little old for me, but I believe that is done like the RZR 800 with shims behind the secondary clutch. Also can be engine or tranny mounts broken
Sir i have a problem with my sportsman twin 700 . It wont change gear when its engage . Like you cant shift it to reverse gear when it engage to H or L. . But you if the engine is off it perfectly work.. what i did if i shift the gear i need to turned the engine off. Sir what could be the problem
Could be several things. Send an email todd@hunterworks.com
According to this video I need a bearing . Witch bearing do I need for a 08 Ranger 700 XP EFI 4X4.
I know nothing about these clutches, but have the the hard to go into gear , squealing , and maybe trying to creep.
If you can I would like to have the part number for the bearing-you said I need to replace.
We only have it applying to a 800 model, parts site says same but I can't verify it
@@Hunterworks what’s that part number ?
@@couchrider6228 I do not know but it just hit me, the OEM bearing for this model if it is the one we have is the same as OE so just buy a OE one
2019 XP Turbo, start it up and put it in any gear H,L,R. Shows it’s in gear on dash give it alittle gas it won’t engage, but get on it alittle and it will engage. Like it has to have the RPM higher before the gears will engage. Any idea what could cause that?
Could be several things but watch our how to troubleshoot a turbo clutch video and check those things out
My 2019 sportsman 850 has 75 hrs on it and my primary is noisy but the quad runs perfectly no issues anywhere just the noise. Do the primary’s make a bit of noise at idle?
yes a rattle at idle but it all depends on the noise, would need to hear it
My fire dept has an ASAP intimidater that will not shift out of park. Any ideas?
If you mean running then same as this video talks about. I do not know what that vehicle though that you mentioned
My brand new 2020 RS1 has difficulty going into park. Usually takes a bit of rowing back and forth to get it into park.
Watch this video ua-cam.com/video/jz5AHz2X-9o/v-deo.html
My shifter cable is extremely loose alot of slack in it. Its hard to get it to go into reverse but high is fine. Lo it will pop out if gear sometimes i got a 2012 900xp. Should i change the shifter cable ?
Best thing to do is disconnect the cable aat the tranny, manually put it in gear and see if it pops out, if not then it is the cable and or it's adjustment
Hey i got polaris 1000 xp rzr 2015 it's Hard to shift whe running (changing from p to r or another gear) i got new cable.
What is the problme?
Watch this video, just for this issue ua-cam.com/video/jz5AHz2X-9o/v-deo.html
I have a 2012 polaris 500 sportsman HO. SHOULD I BE ABLE TO SPIN THE MAIN BEARING WHILE CLUTCH IS ON MOTOR. ? I bought this atv with 611 miles on it which probly don’t mean didly! Anyway I have that hard shifting going on. So I noticed the idle was at 1400+ rpm has carb so I turned idle down to 1150 apro. But below 1200 rpm. That one way bearing there I can’t spin it in the right direction so I’m assuming it needs replacing ? I’ll entertain any thoughts of course. The belt is original so it’s 10-11 years old but with that 611 mileage when I bought from a private party. Didn’t notice any shifting situation when I bought it. This started happening around 800 miles. I got the belt off now. I have new belt coming. The sheaves are beautiful shape though I’m gonna take brake cleaner and wipe down. But if that bearing ain’t able to spin I imagine it’s toast. Ok I’m done hacking thank you ahead of time in a reply…
depends on which model it is, back then they had some primary clutches with no bearings and the belt was slack
Well I think that what I got after I got the belt off I blew air on primary and holy smokes for the belt dust wow ! Did cleaning with brake cleaner on sheaves and cleaned what I could reach. Wiped down belt. Ready sheaves too . Put belt back on and walk everything is awesome went for a ride and shifting is now sweet thanks for your reply
is there a alignment tool for a 2017 Polaris Ranger 1000 xp crew for the clutches
Yes look on our site on the Ranger page it’s exact same one as a 16 and newer rzr 1000 only one year for a ranger 1017 model
So my four wheeler when I let off the gas it breaks really hard then release and repeats to like 3mph
you left out what kind of four wheeler it is
2011 Ranger 800 hard to put in gear unless motor is off
Can you point me n the right direction
Yes start here on this video, it should have told you. What part didn't you get that would help you? Also, this video ua-cam.com/video/Yoi_YELCd9E/v-deo.html
How do you pull it if the bearing is bad and it don't won't to come off ?
YOu using a puller?
Should I have side to side in my bearing??
about a 1/16" or so
What bearing exactly are we talking about I'm 17 and im trying to figure out what's going on ik a little about quads not to much tho
@@twiztedxassassin2211 The one you asked about
What could be the cause of my rzr not going over 45 50 it’s a 2015 900s
Shoot me an email at todd@hunterworks.com I have more info and some back and forth that would not work on here well.
Hahah, I’m one of those people that just called.
i have a bad bearing can i do something to fix it until i get my new one in ?
I do not know of a temp fix, sorry
Brand new primary and new belt making squeaking noise and won't shift when running But will shift when off and trys to go when in gear
Shoot me an email todd@hunterworks.com I’ll get you fixed up
Do I have to pull the clutch off the engine to replace the one way bearing or just the outer part of the clutch? Do you sell the one way bearing for a 2009
xp 850?
Have to pull it off, the outside half has to unscrew with tools
Hey boss...I have a rattle noise during take off. It is very briefly, maybe a second or two, but it only happens in high gear, it has never happened in low. 2019 polaris ranger xp 1000
Gonna be a tough one, need to hear that one
I'll get a short video
Did you happen to solve this issue?
gonna go look at my can-am outlander that is creeping hard. With this video, I suspect my primary is dirty and not opening up all the way.
I have 2019 Polaris ranger crew high lifter and I’m having problems with my shifter not going into park its currently stuck in N or L my belt did screech a little bit when you start it. What can the problem be? Also my shifter broke since it was difficult to put in to gear but I already replace it.
If will not go with engine off, that is a shifter, cable or tranny issue, not clutch. If works off but not running that is a clutch issue and this video will help you find it too
@@Hunterworks ok thanks
Hello i have a question i got a polaris 2014 xp 1000 my belt when bad but when i replace it i wont go on gear when da car is on but will go when is off what it can be
Quick question about the video. I have a 19 can am maverick sport XMR. Got some water/mud/sand in the CVT due to a snorkel boot coming undone. Let it sit a few weeks before riding again and it seems like I am having the exact issue as in the video. My question is when using the phone to take a picture, the sxs should be in park with the primary spinning? The noises and issues happen when its forced into gear. Thanks for the video btw!!!
I am going to guess your primary is messed up now from the dirt and water. Primary should spin due to be attached to crank and secondary not.
@@Hunterworks Primary spins as it should. It's difficult to get into gear. When its in gear its difficult to get out of gear and also makes the loud squealing noises. If the belt is not touching either side while idling then the replace the 1-way bearing?
@@jessenewcomb333 Is the secondary turning though in park or neutral?
@@Hunterworks Secondary does not turn in park not sure about neutral.
@@jessenewcomb333 If secondary is not turning and hard to get in gear, not the clutches, would be shifter, cable or tranny
Will this make it bog down as well ?
Yes it will, one of these will
any idea why my turbo s is super hard to put into gear? the cable its bound up i checked that
Running or engine off?
@@Hunterworks both
Do u sell a clutch alignment tool for a 2004 sportsman 700 efi
Sorry we do not
Is there a manual with all parts for Polaris
900 xp rangers with service Tec
Yes you can buy a service manual at a host of places
@@Hunterworks ????
@@MsArtroberts What was not clear? You asked about a service manual and I said you can buy it a lot of places, google service many for Ranger XP 900
Does it matter what gear your in when you check this?
No engine is off
Thank you and thanks for super informative video
Also need to check your idle rpm
Nothing to check, controlled by ECU
@@Hunterworks older rzr’s are not like my uncles 800
@@dw3jvb There are no older RZR than an 800 and they have always had a EFI and the ECU has always controlled it.
Proper lub of bushing on driver
Or video to buy
Not sure what you are asking for
Too bad you didn't say what each of those scenarios causes what symptoms
I did, it is in the title, the symptom is the same for all, hard to get in gear or creeping in gear, so then I tell you different things causing it.
Well, the primary clutch make it Idle high
No sir
How easy is the one way bearing supposed to rotate? Mine is like when you open a bottle of water, I need to use force. Not like regular bearings that is almost friction less.
not turn one way and turn easy the other
I have a 2019 Textron Prowler Pro, 33 hours, won't shift while running. Hasn't shifted properly since hour two. Arctic Cat said it is somehow my fault. What a piece of shit machine, the list is too long.
It is doing it for one of the reasons in this video, just got to find out which and fix it
03 sportsman 700, one way bearing went bad, dealer couldn't get spider off, broke tools. I bought new OEM clutch. Still walks and wont shift . What do I do now?
where is the belt riding like shown in this video?
I will have to check. New clutch is identical to old, I just assumed it would work.
Ok. The belt is riding on the stationary side of the clutch. I can pull the belt over one notch/groove on the one way bearing and it works fine, until mid range pushes it back. Misaligned? But not by much? Tighten primary clutch more?
@@gregorynastwold4587 that is alignment, I do not know how alignment is done on your vehicle though