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Mitsubishi Triton; DPF Light Flashing & Incorrect Oil Level.
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2022
- In this episode we go over a flashing DPF light on a Mitsubishi Triton with the 4N14 2.4 TD engine, the reason is because the oil level is over full, we show you have to go about checking and resetting the level.
Understanding the system is the key to a good diagnosis. Great work as usual! 👌🏼
Thanks heaps Gary, completely agree, understanding the system is the first hurdle!
we had this problem with our 2018 l200, having to change oil every few hundred miles, had a dpf expert say it needed replacing and quoted hundreds. Wasnt sure so got a second opinion from a garage and turns out it was a faulty injector seal. someone used the wrong size so it was leaking, easy tell was under the plastic engine cover, you could see burning on the foam on the underside. Guy replaced the seals which cost a few pounds each and had no problems ever since and have now put around 10,000 miles on it since then. No more dpf light, no more oil level increase and no more white smoke out the back.
Hey champ, really helpful and was able to do carry out regen with ease
Perfect 😁 glad it helped you out mate & thanks for subbing
The vid helped me out mate appreciate it.
Thanks mate 😁
Great video mate helped alot thanks
No problem 👍
That diesel run away is no joke a old work van I used it was Mercedes I was driving to another town and this thing was gutless but this one time it just started red lining and took off, I put it in park turned the key off and literally standing on the brake pulling myself with the steering wheel and I’m 130kg and it just wouldn’t pull up for like a good klm or more I was yelling at my coworker to brace himself as I was going to put it in the ditch before i caused an accident with another car. But ended up stopping turned to my coworker laughing and said do I start it again jokingly
Very scary stuff mate!
I found this video because the man who came to spray the outside of my house for bugs, has a two year old diesel engined Triton that has, twice now, had to go back to the dealer with diesel in the engine oil. The dealer is taking significant money off his to fix this, which seems a bit off with what appears to be a known issue.
does the oil dilution not cause engine wear , i,m suprised there arn,t more engine failures due to crank or piston seizures or does the excess deisal still provide lubrication ?
I can't say for sure, it's something that has crossed my mind before
Diesel is a lubricant, it's what keeps the HPFP running well. Whilst petrol is not, which is why it's detrimental when petrol is put into a CRD.
So I guess it has pressure and lubrication capabilities, it's probably only around 250ml of dilution into 7L of oil so it's probably negligible
hey mate, ive got a 2019 triton its done 35,000km. i recently had the DPF service light come on. I did quite alot of research online and guys were saying to check the engine oil level also. So i did this and found the level to be sitting on the X mark (above the full mark on dipstick) so i booked it in and took it into my Mitsubishi dealerships garage. After going into pick it up all they had done was cleared fault codes and changed engine oil and filter. I asked them if they did any further diagnosis like checking for boost leaks (commonly intercooler hoses cracking) and they told me no. So basically in my eyes never actually ruled out the possible root cause of why i am experiencing this issue. They told me im not driving it far enough to do a DPF regen even though i travel 39km 1 way to work on the highway daily and then the same distance home at the end of my shift. They proceeded to say that they want me to drive the next 2000km and monitor for any lights on the dash that may come up and monitor the oil level. So far ive driven 650km and now the engine oil level is higher than the full mark and half way towards the X mark on dipstick but light is not on dash yet. From what i am seeing here in the comments there maybe no actual reason mechanically why the level is increasing.....more just a design fault from factory? Could there be any other issues apart from boost leaks? im not sure how a boost leak would cause oil to enter the oil sump?? Sorry for the long winded message i just really need some kind of honest answer cause i feel like im getting no where with my dealer apart from frustrated especially when there are no courtesy cars in the mean time to commute to work :( thanks heaps Aaron.
I would hope they also reset the oil life like I did in my video
The video should explain everything really, maybe watch again to try gather what's actually happening
Oil level raising is normal on some cars with DPFs it depends how the system creates exhaust heat for regeneration
On a Mitsubishi they inject diesel after TDC to create this excessive exhaust heat, though some of this diesel is not burnt and makes its way into the sump which is why the level increases.
If you had a split boost hose you would probably have an engine light first of all
Secondly at 35k you probably don't have one.
Third if you did have a boost hose split the reason you would have excessive regens and oil level issues would be because some of the air is leaking out of that boost hose so the air to diesel ratio would be off in cylinder so excessive soot would be produced and then fill the dpf, the ecu then regens the dpf and the oil level becomes high as a result of that
Either way, the oil life needs to be reset every service & I would also suggest 7500km service intervals.
I am no mechanic or expert. From internet,Two things for high oil level is head leakage(head gasket or engine head problem) found ,second is high fuel injection by car ecu/computer to clearly the clogged DPF.
I worked at Ford UK Product Development at Dunton in Essex starting as a toolmaker in 1967. My first job was in Environmental Test where we cold start tested engines down to -20°C. The engines had their oil changed between tests, and were run for a hour in a sound proofed room where it got pretty hot. The truck engines we used at that time was the Dorset diesel, and it had an engine breather that connected to the inlet manifold, so it was entirely possible for the engine to run on if things got too hot. One occasion I remember was when a Dorset was revving out of control, and most of us ran for our lives, but one brave fitter (his name was Bob Gainer) ran in and yanked the breather out saving the day. Bob also told me a story of when he worked for the MoD at Foulness. Someone there started a big CAT dozer, and the clutch between the main and pony engines did not release, so when the main engine revved up it took the pony engine way past its designed max rpm, and blew it to bits. Bob later died of cancer at a far too early age, so remember guys... Being brave and too much excitement can give you cancer!
gday mate. had engine light cone on with egt temp high error code. and had oil level high and trying to find out why. figured faulty sensor. my scan tool is showing dpf temp sensor 1 (before UCC) showing 0 degrees. others have ambients at 25 degrees, replaced sensor and still showing 0 degrees? any ideas of what tp do from herr
Have you cleared the codes?
Possibly a broken wire if it's reading 0
Unplug another one and see if it also reads 0
My Mitsubishi Outlander 2.2 DI-D 2012 has a problem with oil level. If I change the oil today in maximum 2 months I have to much oil in the engine's bath. I don't know if it's a sensor thing or not. The mechanic insist that the DPF it's not blocked and it's just the problem that I don't take long ways that often and it's the unburned diesel accumulated.. In plus Whenever I start the heating it's starts to introduce a bad toxic smoke inside the cabin and after a few minutes I see smoke exiting from the exhaust (like when it's doing regeneration). I'm pretty sure that there are some exhaust leakages that upsets the engine and from there all this history with too much oil because of missed regeneration. . What do you think about my idea ?
What fault codes is the car logging?
Mitsubishis are bad for blowing boost hoses, I would get a thorough check done on them & probably a smoke test to confirm there is no intake leaks.
im in the same problem. Did you find any solution for it???
There is no solution for it. The problem is that this engine is like this. You need a few long rides per week so that it reaches the right temperature for the FAP. It's a Peugeot made engine and all the cars that has the same engine are having the same problem. My mechanic called peugeot services to find out how they are dealing with the problem (maybe they can resoft the computer he thinked) but they said there is NO solution. Here in Paris the services are full with them. So sadly, you either start doing some long rides or you sell it and buy another one. Or buy a small petrol engine one and keep this one for long rides. @@adeelarif3582
I don't know the codes. My mechanic scaned the cars computer. He even checked for the sensor on the DPF. Everything is fine. He said there is no solution and that this is happening because of the shor rides that I do with the car. He insist that I need to do longer rides with it so that the engine reaches the right temperature for the DPF. He identified the engine as beeing a Peugeot made one and he even called for his friends at Peugeot and sadly they had the same answer > for this engine there is no solution for my short rides case.
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The 4N14 is notorious for the exhaust manifold EGR port weld to fail leading to fumes in the cabin. This is mild steel and not cast so can be repaired. This can create issues amongst the EGR and DPF.
Are you saying that the oil level reset needs to be done manually and wont be reset with a delete?
Needs to be reset via scan tool yes
Are you saying a code delete?
Hi my name is John. I'm having issues with my 2017 mq triton where dpf light comes on. This happened after I serviced it. There are no other lights. Oil level is growing. I think it's not actually doing burn properly. After a good drive it goes out but it also runs rough and loses power. Have hooked up g scan but can't find regeneration function. Cheers
Having similar problem with 2018 model
Hey john sorry for the late reply, did you get to the bottom of it ?
Did you sort it out mate?
@@RealAutoSolutionshey from Norway! I have a 2015 l200. Changed the oil and filter 6 months ago. Looked at the dipstick today and it was way to much oil. No warning lights in the dashboard. Help me …😅😅😅
Hi,
Im DIYing my oil change , I have 4N15. Do I need to do this every oil change? If so, whats the best scanner tools for it?
Hey, yes should be done every service.
Any tool that offers functional testing.
Try top don or thinktool. They have DIY budget options
@@RealAutoSolutions Thanks. Could you please check if Topdon ArtiDiag 500S is okay for this ?
@@gilbertlaitan9067 send me a link to it mate
hey man, have just changed my oil now dpf light is flashing any ideas? thanks
to note i dont have a obd reader so have not reset any levels would this be why?
You got it man
Can this be done with a normal obd2 scan tool?
Unfortunately not, it has to have manufacturer specific options, obd2 is only for emissions data
Thanks very much for replying. I was hoping to be able to do this myself without spending a heap on a tool. Is there such a tool available do you know? Otherwisei guess i will have to find a mechanic with ome to overcharge me for the privilege :p @@RealAutoSolutions
Haha, what's your budget? I think if you spent around 300 Aud on a top don or launch scan tool you should be able to carry out the reset.
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I've just bought this one
@@RealAutoSolutions it's coming up as nearly $700 aud for me. I dropped into the local mitsubishi dealer today. It's a smallish country town. Lady at the counter went and got the mechanic as she had nfi what I was talking about. He grabbed his laptop came and did it for me in about 30 seconds. Didn't charge me anything. I left my jaw on the side of the road. Hopefully it's still there next time I go to town.
@ed4043 wow very generous!
Go grab that man a 6 pack!
How can I get 75 cs at 10 mins as Jax?
Make sure you're last hitting those minions
Are you sure the root cause was over filling the oil ?
These 4N15 engines are prone to intercooler hose splits which you know the outcome ,other issues known are DPF sensors 1 of the 3 on the DPF can go.
Great that you're aware of these issues too @gavinfisher8049
This one's boost hoses were perfect and I have seen a couple in the past with the DPF temp sensors going crazy
In this case the fix was just ontime servicing
I get this light pop up around every 7500km and has been happening from around 10000km to 154000km,
There is also an issue with this fault code relating to the exhaust gas temp sensor #3, an issue with programming from Mitsubishi, I would consider replacing this sensor if you're having repeat issues
@@RealAutoSolutions Would this also solve the the oil over full?
@@FIELDBOX yeah mate, there's an issue with the coding like I mentioned and that p252f can relate to a temp sensor issue which inturn creates more regens which then sends the mechanical oil level overful, if it's not overful the temp sensor is very likely the cause
Thanks for the video mate, I have exactly the same issue oil filling up on the same truck. I’ve had the DPF cleaned on the car same result. Then the light started flashing but the oil was not over full so i removed it and cleaned it at home reinstalled it and its doing more mpg but the light is still flashing. I need a machine to cancel the light which one is yours please? Also which is temp #3 is that the last one on the dpf before it goes in the exhaust?
@@craigmountain5100 yeah correct the last one in the dpf before the exhaust, you can get it through the driver's wheel arch, easy job
This is a snap on Modi's, about 6k worth of tool.
If you do the temp sensor, you could take it to a shop and explain you need the oil quality reset and the codes cleared, they will charge but that's standard, it's an expensive tool that doesn't pay for itself
That oil dilution is a terrible design
Its a bit dumb for sure, but there has to be some calculation of the oil dilution going on in the background, this is because you would undoubtedly have someone drive the car forever without getting an oil change which would lead to an eventual run on situation
Hey mate ive just had a 2022 triton motor installed into my 2016 triton have maybe done 3-4thousand ks since installed and my dpf light has come on aswell as going into limp mode, ive scaned it and its throwing code p1498 and ive just checked the oil and it is also over full any help would be much appreciated as ive had to take it back to the mechanics who installed it about 4 times now since they installed it any help mate would be awesome
The new motor has done very low milage has the dpf off the newer motor aswell but used the dpf sensors out of the old motor.
Whats the actual code description for that?
The code is p1498 dpf overload ive just changed all sensors and changed oil and filter and had it scanned and code removed but startit up and engine light and dpf comes on straight away back into limp mode
@@user-yo7hr2ew2c how many KMs on the original engine and dpf?
@@RealAutoSolutions it had 130thou on original motor and dpf and the new motor and dpf has supposedly 22thousand kms on both