thank you so much for the video and detailed analysis of the workflow! Can you tell me how to clean up the view of the neighboring lens in the frame? Or have you already shown it in another video?
Thanks just did all the update great turorial :) are you plannin to have your samples on DEO app? I think the quality is much better than UA-cam, what do you think
Another great video. I hope Kimchi got a treat after you put down your hmd lol. It may be helpful to note, that you can save your settings before upgrading the firmware, under system - transfer menu, save it to sd card and back it up on your pc. Then you can load it after you upgraded, always worked great for me.
Thank you very much for the tips. In spite of the new focus assisting features, at this point i still find it very challenging to check focus using the small flip LCD on the camera. It's almost impossible to do if I'm moving the camera at the same time on a jib. So, my best bet is still an external monitor. It's helpful also for the director to view. I see a SmallHD external monitor on set in your video. I like to hear your opinion on what is the best external monitor in your opinion? And can the HDMI output on the R5c just output "one eye" instead of two ?
Yes agree. We do use external monitor on all our professional shoot. I use this setup: ua-cam.com/video/UPr3Uz2x64A/v-deo.htmlsi=78G3frdjfICnt4ac - you need 4K HDMI send at least. It does not support 1 eye - it is still full sensor send out so you need to get 4K and above remote sender to a monitor. Then any monitor will work as long as it also support 4K+. Smaller HD is what we use for big monitor and smaller we use Mas M1. We just zoom into 1 eye and set it as default. Director we work with acutally like to pan around to check frame and also both left and right eye - so interativity touchscreen is a must in our setup. I hope all these info help.
@@hughhou thank you very much for sharing your workflow. I will definitely look into it. Agreed totally on the "interactive touch screen" ! It makes so much less painful and intuitive!
SIMPLY AWESOME !!! Hugh's signature all over VR ! a quick question to check if i make it right , i shoot 8k raw lt Clog3 Cinema Gammut with view assit CMT709. But where should i drop the lut ? In EoS VR Utility the "lut" button is greyed out and i cannot drop anything there , and the Premiere Canon VR Plugin does not support raw file. PS: on windows system, tried two minutes ago Or just simply change rec format to c8 cmt709 and use no lut ? i'm stuck with stitching via EOS VR Utility and thats why i ask
Oh the LUT is for color grading / color correction. So you use it in color correction step. Not in EOS VR Utility. You still shoot C-log 3 Cinema Gamut. Bring it in Premiere and edit as usual. When you in color step, you can simply use an adjustment layer, and then add Lumetri effect and load the LUT in. This will convert the LOG into REC 709. In resolve it is at Color page. Basically, different editing program has different way to load in 3D LUT. For Premiere, you can also refer to this RED tutorial I made to get an better idea of the color conversion workflow: ua-cam.com/video/QaRzBaeYC-o/v-deo.html
Crack... as always, lots of information condensed in this video... I didn´t know was possible to check footage directly on the Oculus Quest 2 without stitching... this feature will be very helpful for transmit to the client a real/direct idea about whats is being recorded during filmaking process because even using a Hollyland Mars 4K to transmit the content recorded from Canon r5C and 5.2mm dual fishe eye to a larger monitor, for client is not easy to receive a real idea of the final shot in VR because of the "fish eye view" (althoigh a larger screen/monitor always is helpful to transmiot the concept related in the shot)... but whit this option there is no more doubt about the right distance of the character, or even if it´s ok the movement to cover the whole scene... this setup and workflow is a "must have" in my next shot... For last, just a quetion... have you tested how much second card proxy recording can reduce the battery life??? talking about R5C battery, every minute counts... For me has been easy to quickly get proxies using Davinci Resolve Proxie Generator but on set the only disadvantage would be this proxy would be in LOG 3 using this method... for this reason record proxy direct from camera and converting color space to BT.709 (CMT 709) wold be the best option to present for client aproval (only if this don´t require battery life extra consumption)... Thanks a lot as always for tons and tons of helpful information. Greetings form Bogotá (Colombia)
Proxy only work when you are filming in RAW LT file btw. If you are filming RAW, you prob need to use external battery like a V-mount. With V-mount, R5C can run all day so battery should not be a concern. But Proxy recording does not take up extra power - I don't believe at least. To preview, you just need to pop the proxy card (SD card) out, sideload into Deo VR and it will works - no stitching. But if you use Resolve to create proxy - it actually prob won't work as the codec issue. So I always rely on Proxy onset. You are really well said, this is key to get Client or Director by in on set. But there is live preview feature out there as well which I will go into in my next tutorial. This is free tho and with almost no hardware involved. So those extra battery juice is well worth it in my opinion. Thank for watching btw. Glad I can help as always!
great video Hugh. I can't get magnification to work and I also can't get focus assist to work in video. There is a different symbol to the little green triangles.
Hey Hugh sorry to bother but I can't seem to find the answer at Sony or Canon. Do you know if I can use the Canon dual lens on my FX3 with the adaptor ?
For the past few months I've been doing a "one-size-fits-all" color gade on the raw CRM footage (honestly quite close to what the CMT 709 lut looks like) and just tried applying the LUT instead... and the render time almost doubles. Any idea why that might be? I thought this would REDUCE render times, it most certainly didn't. Curious what your thoughts are as I think I'm just gonna go back to my method. Maybe use the LUT as a guide and then remove it and do it myself before rendering.
@@hughhou yes, in resolve if I simply color grade the CRM file (without noise reduction) I can get 15-20 frames rendered per second (I have a 4090). If I simply apply the lut and do nothing else? It’s 6-7 fps. It’s kinda crazy.
What I'm recording directly to the Atomos Ninja V with updated firmware that unlocked 6K recording. What's the setting that I need on that Atomos Ninja V (not the plus version)?
Hey Hugh Hou, thanks to you we upgraded our VR180 production from Insta360 EVO to the R5C VR Kit!
I am glad to hear!
thank you so much for the video and detailed analysis of the workflow! Can you tell me how to clean up the view of the neighboring lens in the frame? Or have you already shown it in another video?
Really great and helpful video as always! The reduction in time switching from photo-to-video is great!
Glad you think so!
Thanks just did all the update great turorial :) are you plannin to have your samples on DEO app? I think the quality is much better than UA-cam, what do you think
Another great video. I hope Kimchi got a treat after you put down your hmd lol. It may be helpful to note, that you can save your settings before upgrading the firmware, under system - transfer menu, save it to sd card and back it up on your pc. Then you can load it after you upgraded, always worked great for me.
Oh yes that is a great tip too! Thank you!
Great video as always thank you .
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice video. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for another amazing video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you very much for the tips. In spite of the new focus assisting features, at this point i still find it very challenging to check focus using the small flip LCD on the camera. It's almost impossible to do if I'm moving the camera at the same time on a jib. So, my best bet is still an external monitor. It's helpful also for the director to view. I see a SmallHD external monitor on set in your video. I like to hear your opinion on what is the best external monitor in your opinion? And can the HDMI output on the R5c just output "one eye" instead of two ?
Yes agree. We do use external monitor on all our professional shoot. I use this setup: ua-cam.com/video/UPr3Uz2x64A/v-deo.htmlsi=78G3frdjfICnt4ac - you need 4K HDMI send at least. It does not support 1 eye - it is still full sensor send out so you need to get 4K and above remote sender to a monitor. Then any monitor will work as long as it also support 4K+. Smaller HD is what we use for big monitor and smaller we use Mas M1. We just zoom into 1 eye and set it as default. Director we work with acutally like to pan around to check frame and also both left and right eye - so interativity touchscreen is a must in our setup. I hope all these info help.
@@hughhou thank you very much for sharing your workflow. I will definitely look into it. Agreed totally on the "interactive touch screen" ! It makes so much less painful and intuitive!
Thank you! Respect
Our pleasure!
Thanks!
Welcome! And thank you :)
SIMPLY AWESOME !!! Hugh's signature all over VR !
a quick question to check if i make it right , i shoot 8k raw lt Clog3 Cinema Gammut with view assit CMT709. But where should i drop the lut ? In EoS VR Utility the "lut" button is greyed out and i cannot drop anything there , and the Premiere Canon VR Plugin does not support raw file. PS: on windows system, tried two minutes ago
Or just simply change rec format to c8 cmt709 and use no lut ? i'm stuck with stitching via EOS VR Utility and thats why i ask
Oh the LUT is for color grading / color correction. So you use it in color correction step. Not in EOS VR Utility. You still shoot C-log 3 Cinema Gamut. Bring it in Premiere and edit as usual. When you in color step, you can simply use an adjustment layer, and then add Lumetri effect and load the LUT in. This will convert the LOG into REC 709. In resolve it is at Color page. Basically, different editing program has different way to load in 3D LUT. For Premiere, you can also refer to this RED tutorial I made to get an better idea of the color conversion workflow: ua-cam.com/video/QaRzBaeYC-o/v-deo.html
Crack... as always, lots of information condensed in this video... I didn´t know was possible to check footage directly on the Oculus Quest 2 without stitching... this feature will be very helpful for transmit to the client a real/direct idea about whats is being recorded during filmaking process because even using a Hollyland Mars 4K to transmit the content recorded from Canon r5C and 5.2mm dual fishe eye to a larger monitor, for client is not easy to receive a real idea of the final shot in VR because of the "fish eye view" (althoigh a larger screen/monitor always is helpful to transmiot the concept related in the shot)... but whit this option there is no more doubt about the right distance of the character, or even if it´s ok the movement to cover the whole scene... this setup and workflow is a "must have" in my next shot...
For last, just a quetion... have you tested how much second card proxy recording can reduce the battery life??? talking about R5C battery, every minute counts... For me has been easy to quickly get proxies using Davinci Resolve Proxie Generator but on set the only disadvantage would be this proxy would be in LOG 3 using this method... for this reason record proxy direct from camera and converting color space to BT.709 (CMT 709) wold be the best option to present for client aproval (only if this don´t require battery life extra consumption)...
Thanks a lot as always for tons and tons of helpful information.
Greetings form Bogotá (Colombia)
Proxy only work when you are filming in RAW LT file btw. If you are filming RAW, you prob need to use external battery like a V-mount. With V-mount, R5C can run all day so battery should not be a concern. But Proxy recording does not take up extra power - I don't believe at least. To preview, you just need to pop the proxy card (SD card) out, sideload into Deo VR and it will works - no stitching. But if you use Resolve to create proxy - it actually prob won't work as the codec issue. So I always rely on Proxy onset. You are really well said, this is key to get Client or Director by in on set. But there is live preview feature out there as well which I will go into in my next tutorial. This is free tho and with almost no hardware involved. So those extra battery juice is well worth it in my opinion. Thank for watching btw. Glad I can help as always!
great video Hugh. I can't get magnification to work and I also can't get focus assist to work in video. There is a different symbol to the little green triangles.
strange. Maybe track plugin into power using USB-C and try again? Maybe lens connection issue?
I got it sorted Hugh. If the light is too low the focus assist doesn’t seem to work unless the ISO is up high.
Thanks! I assume the answer is yes but figured I'd ask - does all this apply to the Canon R5 as well (as opposed to R5C?)
Actually no. R5 is not a cinema camera and do not use cinema firmware.
Hey Hugh sorry to bother but I can't seem to find the answer at Sony or Canon. Do you know if I can use the Canon
dual lens on my FX3 with the adaptor ?
The ''E mount adaptor'' for those asking 😛
No you can't - Canon camera only ... at least for now. Waiting for adaptor that can do it.
For the past few months I've been doing a "one-size-fits-all" color gade on the raw CRM footage (honestly quite close to what the CMT 709 lut looks like) and just tried applying the LUT instead... and the render time almost doubles. Any idea why that might be? I thought this would REDUCE render times, it most certainly didn't. Curious what your thoughts are as I think I'm just gonna go back to my method. Maybe use the LUT as a guide and then remove it and do it myself before rendering.
Applying a LUT double your rendering time? It does not seem right. How do you apply LUT? What software you are using?
@@hughhou yes, in resolve if I simply color grade the CRM file (without noise reduction) I can get 15-20 frames rendered per second (I have a 4090). If I simply apply the lut and do nothing else? It’s 6-7 fps. It’s kinda crazy.
great
Thank you!
I do the update with the battery inside and connected to external power adapter.
Battery inside fully charge
@@hughhou that's right 🙂👍
You got a point about Sony ☹️
是否研究过如何设置视频的锐度。R5拍raw格式vr时画面解析度明显没有直出的好，他的raw和r5c一样，但是R5C我没研究出如何拍出r5的直出锐度
You just need to add sharpening in post. RAW has no camera sharpening - which is a good thing.
What I'm recording directly to the Atomos Ninja V with updated firmware that unlocked 6K recording.
What's the setting that I need on that Atomos Ninja V (not the plus version)?
I don't think R5C support V yet - I think it is a V+ 8K thing.
@@hughhou that's fine. I was curious what setting you had for the V+
@@hughhou Apologies for any misunderstanding. I'll watch your video in a couple of days.
I'm definitely looking to learn settings though.