This stuff is so incredibly amazing! I’ve read your book and realized I’m nowhere near smart enough or do I have enough patience to figure any of this out.
Howard, I don't claim to be smart but do have 75 year of experience knowing about the treasures virtually in my back yard when growing up. My book "shadow of the Sentinel explains a lot about how treasures across America are almost all related. Watch in the coming months for my new book in which I prove some of the old treasure legends are only coded accounts of how the treasure got where it was/is. Thanks for viewing the video. Bob B.
@@ancientriflesmith8917 Bob is that new book close? Full time treasure and relic hunter from Indiana here. I’m constantly looking for real treasure or cache leads in my neck of the woods or at least not 20 hours west.
@ancientriflesmith8917 this comment was posted a year ago. Did you ever get the books published? If you did what is the name and can I purchase it directly from you? I want to thank you for the Rebel Gold book you had published. It made me want to go to Arazon Apache Junction, with your story's and life experiences made the field work come to life. Thank You sir for Sharing.
I have a office manager that does all of my filing, scanning etc. Thanks anyway. I'm about done with research and just need to get 3 more books done then I'll die happy. i'm 85 in two months! HBBB
Thanks for uploading this, Bob. This is the only video like this on all of UA-cam, and not much information can be found elsewhere. I have a site that I am not sure if it is KGC or possibly a local outlaw and even the knowledgeable folks on the Treasurent forum don't agree. Is there any way to know exclusively?
Cmax, It makes no difference what you want to call it, KGC is just a cover name for the real organization that buried the treasure using the pattern of our map overlay, we call it a template. Sometimes a small clue or line marker cache can be found without full knowledge of how to use the template, but finding the master cache in any depository will require you first find its center and then work you way out to the larger stashes at the points of the template cross. You must find at least two of the clue caches before you will ever get near the "big ones". When and if you find the approximate location of a Master cache, you will never be allowed to work the area due to the property's ownership. Most will be on Federal Land where no entry is permitted. Don't try to sneak onto one of those sites. It's too dangerous. Read Rebel Gold and pay attention to the warnings and close calls we have experienced. We have learned in 40 years of working with treasure hunters, people will try anything for gold. So we don't provide information that will get someone killed or imprisoned. REB
Backwoods, If there are carvings on trees and rocks similar to what I show, it is probably their work. If you read either of my books, SHADOW OF THE SENTINEL OR REBEL GOLD, you should be able to make a comparison. Kind Regards, HBBB
I bought Rebel Gold and Shadow of the Sentinel, are there any other books you would consider must haves for treasure hunter/enthusiasts? I remember asking you a while back about Jesse James and the KGC connection and I'm just curious about your opinion on the older gentleman who came forward claiming to be Jesse Wooden James in the late 1940's
John I self published a small booklet about the KGC in 1993. It was the first documented work on the secret society in nearly a century. The book sold out quickly and because I had learned some of my first research was faulty due to documents that were not factual it wasn't reprinted. The only other book we have found helpful is the one I dubbed "The Black Book," most people who have read the book pass it off as fiction or disinformation. It is in fact written in a form of cipher which when understood has led to recoveries of "Rebel Gold." The name of the book is Jesse James was one of his names by Del Schrader and Orvus Lee Howk. It is rare now and very expensive if found. I bought all the copies I could find back in the 90s to give to our research group "Golden Circle Research." Floyd Mann pestered me for KGC information for years before I finally sold him three copies. He gained most of his information by attending our treasure hunting school in Arkansas in 2004, I think? He used the book to open his KGC website and build for himself the title of world's greatest treasure hunter. He is a late comer to KGC treasure..no further comment on that. As for J. Frank Dalton coming out as Jesse James in Lawton in 1948, the truth may never be proven. We have collected hundreds of documents on JJ and JFD. Along with Bud Hardcastle, our GCR group agrees there is more evidence proving JFD and JJ were one in the same. than prove he wasn't. JFD was not the Missouri Jesse R. James known as Dingus, he was Jesse W. James born in Kentucky in 1848. In my bank lock box I have a postcard written by JFD in 1911 to a lady in Ohio the signature on that is exactly the same as on letters we have written by Jesse W. James. After using JFD's treasure waybills and maps for over 30 years to discover dozens KGC treasure depositories in many states there is no doubt JFD/JWJ knew the location of all the KGC treasures. No more long replies are forthcoming. Sorry you'll need to read my new books when they become available. REB Hillbilly
@@ancientriflesmith8917 Hey Bob, I was reading an article on quasi-Masonic orders in America and came across a group formed in 1864 called The Knights of Pythias. The year obviously jumped out at me but what really caught my attention was the article mentioning that the group had “castles “ all over the country. Now this just screams KGC to me. Am I on the right track here???
@@ThekidManson John I haven't made a link between the KGC and Knights of Pythias. However the latter was established by Union Officers and may have been done to counter act the KGC. All of both organizations were Masons.
Hi Beth...thank you. its canned music from my video editing program. As you can tell I'm just a hillbilly and not up to par with the other youtubers. I have some more things in work and hope to post soon. Right now I'm tied up with a publisher of one of my books.
Hey John, George's book was published by his daughter Margaret about two years ago...? You might check with Bill Townsley because he aided Margaret in publishing the book. As I find time I'm working on a different approach to the theory that is the standard story on the SR. I have worked this area some and found many carvings and clues not mentioned by anyone writing on the subject. In researching Dave Arnold, I find its entirely possible he designed the depository where the spider rocks were found. I don't know what happened to Jerry Eckhart down in Cisco, TX but he and I one time began another search in a much larger area than is considered SR county. I'm too busy with other sites in AZ, VA, and OK to devote much time to Texas right now. Interestingly I did find where Dave Arnold died/was killed? in CO. Later two of his sons were killed in the same area. One document states Dave was killed and is buried in west KS. In the coming months I hope to publish two or three books. One is the solution to the Danville Confederate Gold Tale (location known). Another is the solution to the Lost Dutchman and Peralta Stone Maps (several caches located) the third is how we found the so called JJ Keechi Hills treasure near Fort Sill, OK.(recovery to begin when fall weather allows) Good to hear from you again John. REB aka Hillbilly Bob
My brother and I camp at Albert Pike state park and I’ve heard the story of his treasure,do you happen to know the location of Pikes home? I was curious if it was anywhere near the park
Guess I'm out of touch these days. I live only a few miles from AP but didn't know it became another state park. I do know the state sent a survey to Arkansans to determine what people wanted the area to become. Don't bother looking for the treasure buried around Greasy Cole, it was taken up years ago. I grew up with descendants of Dick Whisenhunt, the carpenter that built Pike's "two story house", not a cabin as history implies. Yes I do know the exact location of the house and have been there several times. Unfortunately I may be the only person alive that knows that spot. When I was shown the place 75 years ago I was made to promise to never reveal the location. Nothing to do with treasure but a promise is a promise to us mountaineers. Thanks for watching BB
@@ancientriflesmith8917 Thanks for the quick reply. I find this incredibly interesting and exciting. I used to wonder why Pike would settle down in Arkansas but after spending a lot of time there I know the answer. It’s beautiful. I appreciate your videos and your honesty.I was curious if there might be any connection with the area and Jesse James. Thanks again
@@ThekidManson John, I replied quick because I got your comment via email. I don't as a rule visit youtube often. In answer to your inquiry about Jesse James having connections to the General Albert Pike area, In fact he was there, old timers I knew when I was a boy told stories about his gang having a running gun battle with a posse that actually took place within 300 yards of where I'm now sitting. If you can find a copy of my book, "Shadow of the Sentinel, Simon & Schuster 2003, you will see documented accounts of his being here. His gang had a safe house here with an old Mason, named Bruce. My boyhood home was almost within sight of that old homestead. History Channel aired 4 or 5 programs a few years ago in which I discuss JJ. I have researched JJ and the Confederate Underground for 60 years. Sorry for the poor writing, my vision is not good. More videos coming as I find time to post them. Thanks for your inquiry. BB
@@ancientriflesmith8917 wow I suspected as much about the connection between Pike and James I just haven’t found anyone really knowledgeable on the subject before now. I bough both of your books Shadow of the Sentinel and Rebel Gold over the weekend. I can’t wait to read them.Pike was always an enigma to me as far as the Civil War went. It never made sense to me that a civil rights lawyer like Pike would come down from Boston to join the CSA if slavery had been the primary cause of the war. The Masonic angle makes a lot more sense especially when I found out about the Washington/Lee family connection.Thanks again for the wisdom and I’ll be sure to let you know how much I like your books.
@@ThekidManson John I'm sorry you bought both books. Rebel Gold was not my idea but my co-author and publisher's decision. That was the original title of the book I had written when I met Warren Getler. He talked me into allowing him to re-write my work and change it into a journal of my research and work. The two books are basically the same so if it saves some of you money from buying both I'm glad. Hillbilly Bob Pro Treasure Hunter
Oh, how I wish I could pick your brain! Not to hunt treasure, but I live in Georgia and used it as the setting for my middle-grade mystery/adventure book series. In my work in progress, my characters are searching for lost Confederate treasure. In fact, they are specifically looking for Jefferson Davis's treasure. I found this video because I am doing research on these tree carvings. I've just ordered Rebel Gold so I can learn more. Let me know where else I should be looking for good info! ;) I'm thinking the Jeff Davis treasure may have to change to KCG treasure. ;)
Hi Megan, the truth of the missing Confederate Treasury is mighty close to what you are thinking. I doubt few scholars have as many hours researching and doing field work for the so called missing gold, as our company. Most of the PhD's I've discussed this subject with were not aware that three of last Confederate officers with Jeff Davis and accompanying the treasury were in fact members of the KGC. Major General John C. Breckenridge flaunted his membership by wearing the KGC emblem on his lapel when he was Vice President, Gen PTG Beauregard secretly was forming a Castle of KGC at West-point while the Superintendent there, prior to returning to LA. General Basil Duke's Calvary were the final troops guarding what remained of the Treasury,. Duke began the war as adjutant for his brother in law, Gen. John H. Morgan KGC who made the raid into KY.IN, OH, WVA, to support the planned KGC uprising in the North. Morgan buried a large KGC cache near the TN-VA state corners. That one has been recovered. At the end of the day, it was sort of like letting the fox guard the hen house as we say here in AR. But actually the treasure wasn't near as large as reports made it. The real treasure near Danville wasn't there until after the KGC closed it's books in 1916. There are a few more surprises in regards to the large amount of gold buried/hidden in the USA. Just hope I get a couple more books finished before I croak. My company has worked the Danville legend right down to a hole! The story of our work will be told in it's entirety in my next book. REB
@@ancientriflesmith8917 Thank you so much for your response and this valuable insight! Oh, how I would love to sit & listen to you for hours! If you need any help with your books, let me know. I've self-published 3 novels and am working on the 4th. With my stories, I have some real history, but then use artistic license to make the story. Do you think it's possible that some that money Davis supposedly had stayed behind in Georgia? Of course, I may write it that way to fit the story. 😉 It's certainly cool that he did travel through here. I have your book on order and can't wait to get it!
Congrats on publishing your books. My research group have all passed on as of July 16, 2023, this leaves me the only living person holding all the secret knowledge we discovered in nearly 30 years. Of course I have been at this heart and soul since June 1949. There are stories/legends that nobody knows since they all came from one man and the PhDs dismiss everything the old man said before he died in 1951. The story you will be interested in.... is Jefferson Davis when released from prison, changed his name and had a double stand in for him because the Yankees watched his every move. He assumed the name of (old age) Patterson and took all the South's gold to Texas in huge logs hollowed out. The gold is at Grand Saline, Texas and is buried in a swamp. It;s in three deposits buried real deep. Jl Frank Dalton, alias for the Kentucky Jesse Woodrow James told the story and drew a map of the site. I'm not saying this is true but I will tell everyone of the maps we got copies of have been spot on. If I finish my next two books before the Lord needs me you will all know the true facts. this isn't edited. sorry bad eyes. HBBB
Thank you for the thought out reply. Their really is not enough of the Confederate Treasury missing to spend a lot of time on the subject. I researched the missing gold for many years. Of course there may be lies from each point of view. One thing for certain, Gen John C. Breckinridge and Gen Basil Duke are proven members of the KGC. They were the last two who were in charge of the distribution of the treasury to the Rebel troops. Jeff Davis never had the gold with him so it can't be his gold. Watch for a new book coming out on the Lost Danville Treasure in a year or so. The mystery has been solved and the legend is just that. The gold there wasn't there before 1916. HBBB
@@ancientriflesmith8917 Very interesting! Thanks so much for the update and I can't wait to read your latest book! I put my book on hold while I wrote a different one, so I'll have to decide how to handle this legend in my book. ;) If there's every anything I can do to help you get this information out, let me know!
you say this tree is in Arkansas , makes me wonder if the turtle tribes in Az is where this treasure rest , see that tribe has a large turtle shape rock to mark their Home land .and there is 10 spots in the trail head going from that turtle to their caves . the Seven caves of Chicomoztoc ..its funny your tree says the same thing ..whats the odds , i found 31 old mines there and a one is a tunnel ,one is a two room house in the mouth of a cave .i have been researching the sites for 54 years now and i am 63 , don't know if i will ever get back to the sites again . but who knows the future ...those mountains were called the mountains of the white foam ...as well as the home of thunder gods ...
Sorry for the late reply but I don't get online much. I have spent 32 years working treasure in AZ, mainly in the Superstitions and the upper National Forest and lower desert way down below the Gila. There is plenty of treasure hidden in that vast region. If I can live long enough there will be more said about that. As far as the Amerinds knowing anything about the treasure in Arkansas or vice versa I sort of doubt it. If you read my book Shadow of the Sentinel, Simon & Schuster 2003 there is Chapters on AZ and AR that compare the treasure areas. HBBB
I have a huge tree near my house with those kind of carvings. And where my house is was a log cabin that was burned down about 1864. The confederate shot and killed a union soldier. I found where he was buried. I also found Mexican 8 Reales here.
It's not a snail, its a snake meaning a stream with a island in the middle of it and at the junction of another stream there is a box buried there, on the north bank. Chow HBBB
I have many more videos, but don't have the time to edit them and put them on here. Some of them won't be made public. I have poor eyesight and am caregiver for my wife with Parkinson's which is time consuming . Maybe will have one more in a few months. Thanks for asking and for watching HBBB
USA in every southern, southwestern and Rocky Mts states, including Utah, Montana, Wyoming, Kansas, Nb. and probably others. We have found the treasure depositories in more than 100 places. Watch History Channel old episodes of Jesse James, also Danville, VA Confederate treasure, my partner and I found that one in 60 hours after arriving in Danville.
Howard, You are sort of on the right track but there is not 1912 map and the 10 eggs are not paces. You are right the two snakes are streams one running into the other. This tree was 1/4 mile from my home and my wife and I picked the fruit years ago. Paid for a nice ranch and allowed me to retire at age 37. The tree is still standing and looks exactly as it did in 1949. I'm 84 so figure.Thanks for the comment, HBBB
Why is it 3/4 of treasure symbol marking videos its at almost a whisper the other 1/4 is mumbleded and washy wishy fast talking tip toeing around the real deals geting close to bit not all the way allways withholding.
I'm sorry but I can't tell if you are complaining about the sound on the video or upset that the meaning of the symbols not being explained. This video was made as a training aid for a live classroom presentation. There the video was paused and the meaning of the carvings was given. I posted it on youtube because many treasure hunters believe they have found real KGC carvings on rocks or trees. Some I was sent photos of were real, but most were just graffiti or counterfeit to confuse people trying to learn the meaning, For many years our Golden Circle Research group, invited 18-20 treasure hunters twice a year to our one week treasure schools which were held in the center of this depository. Most of them are now deceased and others, like myself, are too old to hike the mountains to dig the loot. Sorry but you was probably too young to have known about the school. back in the 90s.REB
Not really complaining as i am appreciative for any information shared more i guess venting,im working with someone with something real and buying books,more books,videos more videos ive begin to see patterns everything is very elusive,people who clearly have dang near identical situations and only explain 1/10th of what their showing as i spot tins of unmentioned things,or it will be very low sound or speaking,i do not beileve people are sincere when trying to help other humans,this video was only low volume and not sharing it with people if not capable of solving just goid people wanting to help history be discovered. 🔔〽️🕳👽☯️🔔⚓⌛🛸
It has been a year since you posted this I hope you are still around, The low volume is because I was too far from the camera at times. I'm not a film maker. I only make videos to preserve the fact these trees are real. Over the past 75 years many if not most of the sign trees are gone. Due to Loggers, tornadoes, forest fires and disease Idiots have defaced carvings on rocks and trees for no purpose other than to destroy history. I am in the process of making PowerPoint presentations showing just how each symbol on the trees are used with topo maps. I hope to finish some of those before I die. I'm already on the wrong side of average lifespans, @@karmoneyjust-do-it3583
If that be the case just tell me what any of the symbols mean. I have proven the meaning of all those shown. I suspect you may have read what someone else said a certain sign means but these only will work in the depository where they were/are found. I would love to hear your opinion on how you think they work. Thanks for commenting. REB
@@ancientriflesmith8917 if my research is correct the turtle s tail should point to the treasure but this one is a little different than the ones I have read about I know the snakes are suppose to be be streams and this turtle puzzles me alittle with the eggs or what I think is eggs. I'm trying to remember all of them that was on the tree . Let me watch it again and I'll get back to you on it
@@ancientriflesmith8917 also I had to look up the name in my stuff but with some of the lettering have you used a vigenere cipher to see if you can get more information? And if you haven't do you need the key words for it
@@MadAmericanPatriot James people who make all the noise about treasure hunting and deciphering treasure signs and symbols actually know nothing about the way the system works. For over 100 years wannabee treasure hunters have been lied to about treasure until its been repeated so many times it must be true, but it ain't. Read my Books, maybe you can find the early ones. The only one available now is either Rebel Gold or Shadow of the Sentinel. They are about the same book . Rebel gold being the most available right now I think. I didn't really give away a lot of secrets but at least you can see why I became very knowledgeable on treasure lore. You can just about forget all you've read about treasure hunting and start over. Turtles do point to treasure but first you need to know that the turtle is a transparent map overlay, I call a template. That turtle on the tree in the video is the template and the eggs are measurements. The other symbols are places in the mountains that only someone from here would recognize. They appear on a topo map of the region. Go to and read more about the template. It is the only way a treasure can be found. The template aligns with a topo map and the circles and squares are where the caches can be. Not every circle or square will have a cache, but each one will have a clue leading to the loot. I'm old and near blind but I'm working on DVDs to tell how the people who put down the money were geniuses at turning anything into a treasure clue. I don't normally say much because everyone who has read treasure tales and sign books are already experts and don't need any help. Of course none of them ever found a cache of silver or gold. Contact me on our website, URL above, and I will sell you a first edition autographed Shadow of the Sentinel for 38.00 postpaid REB
@@MadAmericanPatriot Me again James.... the old military ciphers are seldom used in the treasure depositories made by this secret society. Do yourself a favor and forget all what you thinik you know about treasure. See if you can find what is called Pershur or Pershure code and look that over. When you understand that code you will find there are facts in every treasure story that will help. But there is more BS than truth. You just gotta be able to sort it out. Its all in the way its written. REB
that Holly was carved in 1912, it was near that big then. I lived only 1/4 mile from the tree and walked by it every time I was hunting on the mountain, where it is. Holly trees grow real slow and one that big could be 200 years old. 'the tree in the Danville cemetery I showed on the television show "Lost treasury of the confederacy. I core bored and it was 178, is wasn't carved anywhere near the civil war, but in about 1930. It was almost the same size and the Map tree. It also led to solving the treasure mystery. New book on that when I get time.. HBBB
Sorry Ben that tree is very old. You are mistaken when you think carvings get higher as the tree grows, they do not, they stretch out some as the diameter of the tree gets larger. I have cut down Holly trees very close to this one and counted the growth rings, some have over 200 years of growth. This tree was carved in 1910. I know because the man who carved it told me that. If you are one that believes Jesse James died in 1882 you have not done your research well. Regardless that tree is authentic and was carved 30 years before I was born. Thanks for comment and watching. Just go to Google and search how long Holly trees live and how slow they grow. I estimate that tree in video is over 130 years old. REB
@@ancientriflesmith8917 Being that JJ supposedly died 30 years before this was carved, I’m guessing the KGC went on long after his death, or was his death date wrong?
@@skeon67 Hi skeon67, All i can say is that you do your own investigation of the JJ death hoax.. We had 20 members of our Research Team look at every available document concerning the life and death of the "TWO" JJs. Two were PHds. one a Master in English and American History, and the rest of us were free to travel as we wanted to visit dozens of JJ's treasure depositories and they do exist. There is no real evidence that Bob Ford killed JWJ.In fact if you knew how to decipher the coded photos left by the "group" you could see it was a hoax. History can never be changed as so we gave up trying. We have hundreds of documents not available to the public and can make a very strong case for what we say. You won't get the facts watching youtube or on forums. The books you need to read for yourself are few and far between and $$$$ . Search the online bookstores and you will find one once in awhile, some of our reasearch group worked at this for over 40 years. I wrote two books on the subject and that is all I intend to do. Thanks for asking. REB
It's likely there are similar carved maps on rocks and trees in the region where you live. Ask others if they know of any. You'll be surprised. Only a few know what these are and can read the KGC code. History Channel has aired much of my work in treasure locations. Google Rebel Gold. Thanks for watching. REB aka Bob B.
Knights Of The Golden Circle , TOTALLY FASCINATES ME !!!
This stuff is so incredibly amazing! I’ve read your book and realized I’m nowhere near smart enough or do I have enough patience to figure any of this out.
Howard, I don't claim to be smart but do have 75 year of experience knowing about the treasures virtually in my back yard when growing up. My book "shadow of the Sentinel explains a lot about how treasures across America are almost all related. Watch in the coming months for my new book in which I prove some of the old treasure legends are only coded accounts of how the treasure got where it was/is. Thanks for viewing the video.
Bob B.
@@ancientriflesmith8917 Bob is that new book close? Full time treasure and relic hunter from Indiana here. I’m constantly looking for real treasure or cache leads in my neck of the woods or at least not 20 hours west.
@ancientriflesmith8917 this comment was posted a year ago. Did you ever get the books published? If you did what is the name and can I purchase it directly from you?
I want to thank you for the Rebel Gold book you had published. It made me want to go to Arazon Apache Junction, with your story's and life experiences made the field work come to life.
Thank You sir for Sharing.
Grandpa Im tired of diggin' holes!
Well thats too damn bad!!!
I’d like to see more of this
I have a office manager that does all of my filing, scanning etc. Thanks anyway. I'm about done with research and just need to get 3 more books done then I'll die happy. i'm 85 in two months!
HBBB
Thanks for uploading this, Bob. This is the only video like this on all of UA-cam, and not much information can be found elsewhere. I have a site that I am not sure if it is KGC or possibly a local outlaw and even the knowledgeable folks on the Treasurent forum don't agree. Is there any way to know exclusively?
Cmax, It makes no difference what you want to call it, KGC is just a cover name for the real organization that buried the treasure using the pattern of our map overlay, we call it a template. Sometimes a small clue or line marker cache can be found without full knowledge of how to use the template, but finding the master cache in any depository will require you first find its center and then work you way out to the larger stashes at the points of the template cross. You must find at least two of the clue caches before you will ever get near the "big ones". When and if you find the approximate location of a Master cache, you will never be allowed to work the area due to the property's ownership. Most will be on Federal Land where no entry is permitted. Don't try to sneak onto one of those sites. It's too dangerous. Read Rebel Gold and pay attention to the warnings and close calls we have experienced. We have learned in 40 years of working with treasure hunters, people will try anything for gold. So we don't provide information that will get someone killed or imprisoned.
REB
Warren?
Backwoods, If there are carvings on trees and rocks similar to what I show, it is probably their work. If you read either of my books, SHADOW OF THE SENTINEL OR REBEL GOLD, you should be able to make a comparison.
Kind Regards,
HBBB
I bought Rebel Gold and Shadow of the Sentinel, are there any other books you would consider must haves for treasure hunter/enthusiasts? I remember asking you a while back about Jesse James and the KGC connection and I'm just curious about your opinion on the older gentleman who came forward claiming to be Jesse Wooden James in the late 1940's
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John I self published a small booklet about the KGC in 1993. It was the first documented work on the secret society in nearly a century. The book sold out quickly and because I had learned some of my first research was faulty due to documents that were not factual it wasn't reprinted.
The only other book we have found helpful is the one I dubbed "The Black Book," most people who have read the book pass it off as fiction or disinformation. It is in fact written in a form of cipher which when understood has led to recoveries of "Rebel Gold." The name of the book is Jesse James was one of his names by Del Schrader and Orvus Lee Howk. It is rare now and very expensive if found. I bought all the copies I could find back in the 90s to give to our research group "Golden Circle Research." Floyd Mann pestered me for KGC information for years before I finally sold him three copies. He gained most of his information by attending our treasure hunting school in Arkansas in 2004, I think? He used the book to open his KGC website and build for himself the title of world's greatest treasure hunter. He is a late comer to KGC treasure..no further comment on that.
As for J. Frank Dalton coming out as Jesse James in Lawton in 1948, the truth may never be proven. We have collected hundreds of documents on JJ and JFD. Along with Bud Hardcastle, our GCR group agrees there is more evidence proving JFD and JJ were one in the same. than prove he wasn't. JFD was not the Missouri Jesse R. James known as Dingus, he was Jesse W. James born in Kentucky in 1848. In my bank lock box I have a postcard written by JFD in 1911 to a lady in Ohio the signature on that is exactly the same as on letters we have written by Jesse W. James. After using JFD's treasure waybills and maps for over 30 years to discover dozens KGC treasure depositories in many states there is no doubt JFD/JWJ knew the location of all the KGC treasures.
No more long replies are forthcoming. Sorry you'll need to read my new books when they become available. REB Hillbilly
@@ancientriflesmith8917 Hey Bob, I was reading an article on quasi-Masonic orders in America and came across a group formed in 1864 called The Knights of Pythias. The year obviously jumped out at me but what really caught my attention was the article mentioning that the group had “castles “ all over the country. Now this just screams KGC to me. Am I on the right track here???
@@ThekidManson John I haven't made a link between the KGC and Knights of Pythias. However the latter was established by Union Officers and may have been done to counter act the KGC. All of both organizations were Masons.
@@ThekidManson
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Cool Western Film Score Music!!!
Hi Beth...thank you. its canned music from my video editing program. As you can tell I'm just a hillbilly and not up to par with the other youtubers. I have some more things in work and hope to post soon. Right now I'm tied up with a publisher of one of my books.
Hey Bob I was just wondering if there was any word on George Mitchell’s book The Spider’s Web
Hey John, George's book was published by his daughter Margaret about two years ago...? You might check with Bill Townsley because he aided Margaret in publishing the book. As I find time I'm working on a different approach to the theory that is the standard story on the SR. I have worked this area some and found many carvings and clues not mentioned by anyone writing on the subject. In researching Dave Arnold, I find its entirely possible he designed the depository where the spider rocks were found. I don't know what happened to Jerry Eckhart down in Cisco, TX but he and I one time began another search in a much larger area than is considered SR county. I'm too busy with other sites in AZ, VA, and OK to devote much time to Texas right now. Interestingly I did find where Dave Arnold died/was killed? in CO. Later two of his sons were killed in the same area. One document states Dave was killed and is buried in west KS.
In the coming months I hope to publish two or three books. One is the solution to the Danville Confederate Gold Tale (location known). Another is the solution to the Lost Dutchman and Peralta Stone Maps (several caches located) the third is how we found the so called JJ Keechi Hills treasure near Fort Sill, OK.(recovery to begin when fall weather allows) Good to hear from you again John. REB aka Hillbilly Bob
Well that explains everything...
My brother and I camp at Albert Pike state park and I’ve heard the story of his treasure,do you happen to know the location of Pikes home? I was curious if it was anywhere near the park
Guess I'm out of touch these days. I live only a few miles from AP but didn't know it became another state park. I do know the state sent a survey to Arkansans to determine what people wanted the area to become. Don't bother looking for the treasure buried around Greasy Cole, it was taken up years ago. I grew up with descendants of Dick Whisenhunt, the carpenter that built Pike's "two story house", not a cabin as history implies. Yes I do know the exact location of the house and have been there several times. Unfortunately I may be the only person alive that knows that spot. When I was shown the place 75 years ago I was made to promise to never reveal the location. Nothing to do with treasure but a promise is a promise to us mountaineers. Thanks for watching BB
@@ancientriflesmith8917 Thanks for the quick reply. I find this incredibly interesting and exciting. I used to wonder why Pike would settle down in Arkansas but after spending a lot of time there I know the answer. It’s beautiful. I appreciate your videos and your honesty.I was curious if there might be any connection with the area and Jesse James. Thanks again
@@ThekidManson John, I replied quick because I got your comment via email. I don't as a rule visit youtube often. In answer to your inquiry about Jesse James having connections to the General Albert Pike area, In fact he was there, old timers I knew when I was a boy told stories about his gang having a running gun battle with a posse that actually took place within 300 yards of where I'm now sitting. If you can find a copy of my book, "Shadow of the Sentinel, Simon & Schuster 2003, you will see documented accounts of his being here. His gang had a safe house here with an old Mason, named Bruce. My boyhood home was almost within sight of that old homestead. History Channel aired 4 or 5 programs a few years ago in which I discuss JJ. I have researched JJ and the Confederate Underground for 60 years. Sorry for the poor writing, my vision is not good.
More videos coming as I find time to post them. Thanks for your inquiry. BB
@@ancientriflesmith8917 wow I suspected as much about the connection between Pike and James I just haven’t found anyone really knowledgeable on the subject before now. I bough both of your books Shadow of the Sentinel and Rebel Gold over the weekend. I can’t wait to read them.Pike was always an enigma to me as far as the Civil War went. It never made sense to me that a civil rights lawyer like Pike would come down from Boston to join the CSA if slavery had been the primary cause of the war. The Masonic angle makes a lot more sense especially when I found out about the Washington/Lee family connection.Thanks again for the wisdom and I’ll be sure to let you know how much I like your books.
@@ThekidManson John I'm sorry you bought both books. Rebel Gold was not my idea but my co-author and publisher's decision. That was the original title of the book I had written when I met Warren Getler. He talked me into allowing him to re-write my work and change it into a journal of my research and work. The two books are basically the same so if it saves some of you money from buying both I'm glad.
Hillbilly Bob
Pro Treasure Hunter
Oh, how I wish I could pick your brain! Not to hunt treasure, but I live in Georgia and used it as the setting for my middle-grade mystery/adventure book series. In my work in progress, my characters are searching for lost Confederate treasure. In fact, they are specifically looking for Jefferson Davis's treasure. I found this video because I am doing research on these tree carvings. I've just ordered Rebel Gold so I can learn more. Let me know where else I should be looking for good info! ;) I'm thinking the Jeff Davis treasure may have to change to KCG treasure. ;)
Hi Megan, the truth of the missing Confederate Treasury is mighty close to what you are thinking. I doubt few scholars have as many hours researching and doing field work for the so called missing gold, as our company. Most of the PhD's I've discussed this subject with were not aware that three of last Confederate officers with Jeff Davis and accompanying the treasury were in fact members of the KGC. Major General John C. Breckenridge flaunted his membership by wearing the KGC emblem on his lapel when he was Vice President, Gen PTG Beauregard secretly was forming a Castle of KGC at West-point while the Superintendent there, prior to returning to LA. General Basil Duke's Calvary were the final troops guarding what remained of the Treasury,. Duke began the war as adjutant for his brother in law, Gen. John H. Morgan KGC who made the raid into KY.IN, OH, WVA, to support the planned KGC uprising in the North. Morgan buried a large KGC cache near the TN-VA state corners. That one has been recovered.
At the end of the day, it was sort of like letting the fox guard the hen house as we say here in AR.
But actually the treasure wasn't near as large as reports made it. The real treasure near Danville wasn't there until after the KGC closed it's books in 1916. There are a few more surprises in regards to the large amount of gold buried/hidden in the USA. Just hope I get a couple more books finished before I croak. My company has worked the Danville legend right down to a hole! The story of our work will be told in it's entirety in my next book. REB
@@ancientriflesmith8917 Thank you so much for your response and this valuable insight! Oh, how I would love to sit & listen to you for hours! If you need any help with your books, let me know. I've self-published 3 novels and am working on the 4th. With my stories, I have some real history, but then use artistic license to make the story. Do you think it's possible that some that money Davis supposedly had stayed behind in Georgia? Of course, I may write it that way to fit the story. 😉 It's certainly cool that he did travel through here. I have your book on order and can't wait to get it!
Congrats on publishing your books. My research group have all passed on as of July 16, 2023, this leaves me the only living person holding all the secret knowledge we discovered in nearly 30 years. Of course I have been at this heart and soul since June 1949. There are stories/legends that nobody knows since they all came from one man and the PhDs dismiss everything the old man said before he died in 1951. The story you will be interested in.... is Jefferson Davis when released from prison, changed his name and had a double stand in for him because the Yankees watched his every move. He assumed the name of (old age) Patterson and took all the South's gold to Texas in huge logs hollowed out. The gold is at Grand Saline, Texas and is buried in a swamp. It;s in three deposits buried real deep. Jl Frank Dalton, alias for the Kentucky Jesse Woodrow James told the story and drew a map of the site. I'm not saying this is true but I will tell everyone of the maps we got copies of have been spot on. If I finish my next two books before the Lord needs me you will all know the true facts.
this isn't edited. sorry bad eyes.
HBBB
Thank you for the thought out reply. Their really is not enough of the Confederate Treasury missing to spend a lot of time on the subject. I researched the missing gold for many years. Of course there may be lies from each point of view. One thing for certain, Gen John C. Breckinridge and Gen Basil Duke are proven members of the KGC. They were the last two who were in charge of the distribution of the treasury to the Rebel troops. Jeff Davis never had the gold with him so it can't be his gold. Watch for a new book coming out on the Lost Danville Treasure in a year or so. The mystery has been solved and the legend is just that. The gold there wasn't there before 1916.
HBBB
@@ancientriflesmith8917 Very interesting! Thanks so much for the update and I can't wait to read your latest book! I put my book on hold while I wrote a different one, so I'll have to decide how to handle this legend in my book. ;) If there's every anything I can do to help you get this information out, let me know!
you say this tree is in Arkansas , makes me wonder if the turtle tribes in Az is where this treasure rest , see that tribe has a large turtle shape rock to mark their Home land .and there is 10 spots in the trail head going from that turtle to their caves . the Seven caves of Chicomoztoc ..its funny your tree says the same thing ..whats the odds , i found 31 old mines there and a one is a tunnel ,one is a two room house in the mouth of a cave .i have been researching the sites for 54 years now and i am 63 , don't know if i will ever get back to the sites again . but who knows the future ...those mountains were called the mountains of the white foam ...as well as the home of thunder gods ...
Sorry for the late reply but I don't get online much. I have spent 32 years working treasure in AZ, mainly in the Superstitions and the upper National Forest and lower desert way down below the Gila. There is plenty of treasure hidden in that vast region. If I can live long enough there will be more said about that. As far as the Amerinds knowing anything about the treasure in Arkansas or vice versa I sort of doubt it. If you read my book Shadow of the Sentinel, Simon & Schuster 2003 there is Chapters on AZ and AR that compare the treasure areas.
HBBB
I have a huge tree near my house with those kind of carvings. And where my house is was a log cabin that was burned down about 1864. The confederate shot and killed a union soldier. I found where he was buried. I also found Mexican 8 Reales here.
The snail 🐌 is the horned serpent 🐍 maybe? Possibly a direction marker of danger.
It's not a snail, its a snake meaning a stream with a island in the middle of it and at the junction of another stream there is a box buried there, on the north bank.
Chow
HBBB
No more videos?
I have many more videos, but don't have the time to edit them and put them on here. Some of them won't be made public.
I have poor eyesight and am caregiver for my wife with Parkinson's which is time consuming . Maybe will have one more in a few months.
Thanks for asking and for watching
HBBB
What country do you think the gold is located in?
USA in every southern, southwestern and Rocky Mts states, including Utah, Montana, Wyoming, Kansas, Nb. and probably others. We have found the treasure depositories in more than 100 places. Watch History Channel old episodes of Jesse James, also Danville, VA Confederate treasure, my partner and I found that one in 60 hours after arriving in Danville.
@@ancientriflesmith8917 what about Mulmar Canada?
I mean mulmur*
@@ammaral-hijaj6294 No Bic!
@@ammaral-hijaj6294 Sorry I don't know Mulmar, Canada, but there are Knight's treasures in Canada
Everyones cousins uncle here in wy has a James gang story of some kind…
Twin snake streams before turtle bend 10 eggs/paces sw look down. 1912 map
Howard, You are sort of on the right track but there is not 1912 map and the 10 eggs are not paces. You are right the two snakes are streams one running into the other. This tree was 1/4 mile from my home and my wife and I picked the fruit years ago. Paid for a nice ranch and allowed me to retire at age 37. The tree is still standing and looks exactly as it did in 1949. I'm 84 so figure.Thanks for the comment, HBBB
Why is it 3/4 of treasure symbol marking videos its at almost a whisper the other 1/4 is mumbleded and washy wishy fast talking tip toeing around the real deals geting close to bit not all the way allways withholding.
I'm sorry but I can't tell if you are complaining about the sound on the video or upset that the meaning of the symbols not being explained. This video was made as a training aid for a live classroom presentation. There the video was paused and the meaning of the carvings was given. I posted it on youtube because many treasure hunters believe they have found real KGC carvings on rocks or trees. Some I was sent photos of were real, but most were just graffiti or counterfeit to confuse people trying to learn the meaning, For many years our Golden Circle Research group, invited 18-20 treasure hunters twice a year to our one week treasure schools which were held in the center of this depository. Most of them are now deceased and others, like myself, are too old to hike the mountains to dig the loot. Sorry but you was probably too young to have known about the school. back in the 90s.REB
Not really complaining as i am appreciative for any information shared more i guess venting,im working with someone with something real and buying books,more books,videos more videos ive begin to see patterns everything is very elusive,people who clearly have dang near identical situations and only explain 1/10th of what their showing as i spot tins of unmentioned things,or it will be very low sound or speaking,i do not beileve people are sincere when trying to help other humans,this video was only low volume and not sharing it with people if not capable of solving just goid people wanting to help history be discovered. 🔔〽️🕳👽☯️🔔⚓⌛🛸
It has been a year since you posted this I hope you are still around, The low volume is because I was too far from the camera at times. I'm not a film maker. I only make videos to preserve the fact these trees are real. Over the past 75 years many if not most of the sign trees are gone. Due to Loggers, tornadoes, forest fires and disease Idiots have defaced carvings on rocks and trees for no purpose other than to destroy history. I am in the process of making PowerPoint presentations showing just how each symbol on the trees are used with topo maps. I hope to finish some of those before I die. I'm already on the wrong side of average lifespans, @@karmoneyjust-do-it3583
Yet no treasure has been found related to this.
How can I contact the ones who made this I know what about 95% of the symbols mean
If that be the case just tell me what any of the symbols mean. I have proven the meaning of all those shown. I suspect you may have read what someone else said a certain sign means but these only will work in the depository where they were/are found. I would love to hear your opinion on how you think they work. Thanks for commenting. REB
@@ancientriflesmith8917 if my research is correct the turtle s tail should point to the treasure but this one is a little different than the ones I have read about I know the snakes are suppose to be be streams and this turtle puzzles me alittle with the eggs or what I think is eggs. I'm trying to remember all of them that was on the tree . Let me watch it again and I'll get back to you on it
@@ancientriflesmith8917 also I had to look up the name in my stuff but with some of the lettering have you used a vigenere cipher to see if you can get more information? And if you haven't do you need the key words for it
@@MadAmericanPatriot
James people who make all the noise about treasure hunting and deciphering treasure signs and symbols actually know nothing about the way the system works. For over 100 years wannabee treasure hunters have been lied to about treasure until its been repeated so many times it must be true, but it ain't.
Read my Books, maybe you can find the early ones. The only one available now is either Rebel Gold or Shadow of the Sentinel. They are about the same book . Rebel gold being the most available right now I think. I didn't really give away a lot of secrets but at least you can see why I became very knowledgeable on treasure lore. You can just about forget all you've read about treasure hunting and start over. Turtles do point to treasure but first you need to know that the turtle is a transparent map overlay, I call a template. That turtle on the tree in the video is the template and the eggs are measurements. The other symbols are places in the mountains that only someone from here would recognize. They appear on a topo map of the region. Go to and read more about the template. It is the only way a treasure can be found. The template aligns with a topo map and the circles and squares are where the caches can be. Not every circle or square will have a cache, but each one will have a clue leading to the loot.
I'm old and near blind but I'm working on DVDs to tell how the people who put down the money were geniuses at turning anything into a treasure clue.
I don't normally say much because everyone who has read treasure tales and sign books are already experts and don't need any help. Of course none of them ever found a cache of silver or gold. Contact me on our website, URL above, and I will sell you a first edition autographed Shadow of the Sentinel for 38.00 postpaid
REB
@@MadAmericanPatriot
Me again James.... the old military ciphers are seldom used in the treasure depositories made by this secret society. Do yourself a favor and forget all what you thinik you know about treasure. See if you can find what is called Pershur or Pershure code and look that over. When you understand that code you will find there are facts in every treasure story that will help. But there is more BS than truth. You just gotta be able to sort it out. Its all in the way its written.
REB
That tree is maybe 40 years old Max
that Holly was carved in 1912, it was near that big then. I lived only 1/4 mile from the tree and walked by it every time I was hunting on the mountain, where it is. Holly trees grow real slow and one that big could be 200 years old. 'the tree in the Danville cemetery I showed on the television show "Lost treasury of the confederacy. I core bored and it was 178, is wasn't carved anywhere near the civil war, but in about 1930. It was almost the same size and the Map tree. It also led to solving the treasure mystery. New book on that when I get time..
HBBB
I don't believe what he say the symbol on tree will be much more higher and the tree would have been lots more older
Sorry Ben that tree is very old. You are mistaken when you think carvings get higher as the tree grows, they do not, they stretch out some as the diameter of the tree gets larger. I have cut down Holly trees very close to this one and counted the growth rings, some have over 200 years of growth. This tree was carved in 1910. I know because the man who carved it told me that. If you are one that believes Jesse James died in 1882 you have not done your research well. Regardless that tree is authentic and was carved 30 years before I was born. Thanks for comment and watching. Just go to Google and search how long Holly trees live and how slow they grow. I estimate that tree in video is over 130 years old. REB
@@ancientriflesmith8917 Being that JJ supposedly died 30 years before this was carved, I’m guessing the KGC went on long after his death, or was his death date wrong?
@@skeon67 Hi skeon67, All i can say is that you do your own investigation of the JJ death hoax.. We had 20 members of our Research Team look at every available document concerning the life and death of the "TWO" JJs. Two were PHds. one a Master in English and American History, and the rest of us were free to travel as we wanted to visit dozens of JJ's treasure depositories and they do exist. There is no real evidence that Bob Ford killed JWJ.In fact if you knew how to decipher the coded photos left by the "group" you could see it was a hoax. History can never be changed as so we gave up trying. We have hundreds of documents not available to the public and can make a very strong case for what we say. You won't get the facts watching youtube or on forums. The books you need to read for yourself are few and far between and $$$$ . Search the online bookstores and you will find one once in awhile, some of our reasearch group worked at this for over 40 years. I wrote two books on the subject and that is all I intend to do. Thanks for asking. REB
I want to come help
What makes u believe it’s Jesse james
Research! Read my book "Shadow of the Sentinel", This tree only one of thousands of KGC carved rock and tree maps found though out the USA.
I'm looking
It's likely there are similar carved maps on rocks and trees in the region where you live. Ask others if they know of any. You'll be surprised. Only a few know what these are and can read the KGC code. History Channel has aired much of my work in treasure locations. Google Rebel Gold. Thanks for watching. REB aka Bob B.
Bullshit
Fake
Might as well be a silent movie, is he whispering?