Deadbaiting for pike - the never seen before rig?
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- Welcome! Rain, rain and more rain last week and the rivers were banktop,
So it was into the fishing cave for a bit of rig talk! In this video I'm explaining a rig that I think I've never seen anywhere before. Over the last few years I've tweaked it and it's now one of my go-to rigs for flowing water.
Let us know what you think and also if you're going to give it a try.
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I have been using this rig myself for a fair few years. I use it also for cats on the french rivers. I swap the sub float for a ping pong ball, with tiny steel balls from a 12 bore cartridge inside it. This rattles loudly in the flow, even more with a livebait. The trick is to pass a length of tubing through ball this must be sealed with silicone before using.
Sounds interesting 🤔 i fish for cats in summer but only on still waters 👍ive never seen it in any media platforms but im sure people are using something similar to it so think its a first to put it out there as far as im aware very interesting about the cat rig 🙂 please consider hitting that subscribe button 🙂 im starting a community tab soon and it would be great to have your cat pictures on there with a brief description of how you caught it 👍🤝
Getting some good tips off this channel. This man knows how to fish💯 keep them coming👌👊
Thankyou tony its very nice of you to say so 🤝🙂 i hope that people do find the videos enjoyable and informative so its appreciated that you say so thankyou 👍😊
Tip on threading frayed braid, use a baiting needle. Never seen this rig before, a great concept for on the rivers
Hi ross and thank you for commenting i know exactly what you mean it can be annoying frayed braid i do normally use a latched splicing needle but didnt have one to hand 🙄 got it through in the end 👌 ive never seen the rig before give it a go n be sure to let me know how you get on 🤝🙂
Hi great video. Would you see any reason not to use this on the float on rivers?
Cheers
Hi sean thanks for commenting 🤝🙂 i suppose you could do but the main reason for how i fish it is you can twitch the bait and also let line out to make the bait rise 👍 give it a go its a deadly rig in medium pace water to get the bait swimming 👌😊
@@luredbyesox thank you for the reply. Next year I'll give it a whirl
I have a tool somewhere in the shed, for inserting "Foam Dowel" into a dead bait, so it pops up a bit, avoiding the crayfish? Only tried it once or so but I'm sure it works. A work mate gave me it to try. I've had a couple of Pike sessions in my dark & distant past, but without success when fishing for them on purpose !! I don't need it anymore & had it for years - I'll stick it in the post if you'd like ??
@@felgate11 i think i may have a similar thing its like a plastic tube to insert the foam the rig featured in this video is a method i use to get the bait swimming in the flow turning it into a livebait almost as i mentioned in the video the first time i used it a big pike nailed the bait on the surface really exiting stuff 👍🙂
Great video thanks
Its a pleasure clyde we hope it helps to keep your lines tight we will be making many more like this so look out for em thanks pal 🤝🙂
I have used a very similar rig to that in the past, but not for a while, so a nice reminder. Great video as always. Tight lines.
Thanks jason 🙂 its certainly something ive never seen before such a versatile rig and very effective too thanks for the kind comment mate and tight lines to you too 🎣🐊👍
That rig looks the business. Do you get problems with it on the alarm with the bait getting moved by the flow?
Hi mate and thanks for joining in as for the alarm no it doesnt trigger the alarm but if it was kicking i would turn down the sensitivity 🙂 in all my yrs of piking nearly 30yrs ive never seen it before in any media anywhere!! But i can asure you it really works well thanks again mate for joining in 🙂🤝🐊
Brilliant ! Wonder if it’ll work for Zander ?
Hi mick thankyou for commenting 🤝🙂 im sure it will do in the right situation 👌 am i right in saying zander will only take freshwater baits?🤔 if not maybe a sprat would work 👍 if it is the case im sure a small roach would tempt them 😊 if you give it a try please let us know how you get on 🤝🙂
Hi mate love the idea of this rig on rivers but unfortunately my local rivers dont hold pike would this work on still waters?
Hi luke and thankyou for subscribing to our channel 🤝 this rig targetted at rivers mainly because it needs the flow to work properly 👍 however if you want your bait off bottom on stillwaters you could adapt it by setting up a link ledger with the float above it 🤔 its difficult to describe it too you i may have to do a video on it as theres been a couple of people ask me the same question 🙂 thanks again for joining us 👍 feel free to comment on the mega giveaway too mate if youve not seen it 🤜🤛😊
@@luredbyesox i see so the flow helps keep the bait off the bottom as well as the sunken float i would need to adjust the rig slighty for still waters
@@lukebean634 thats right mate yes 👍 so if you setup your lead with a length of line at the depth you want your bait at a large bore runring then pass your mainline through with a subfloat at the top that should do the trick 👍🙂
Looks a great rig. Could i ask what sort of size baits are you using on it ? Also would it work with a single circle hooked bait in the lips Cheers.
Hi mate and thanks for your comment it all depends on the flow but i use joey mackerel and sardine but you could go as small as sprats if youve not much flow im sure a single hook with a small bait would work yes 🙂👍
Speaking as someone who is returning to pike fishing etc.... i found this interesting.
I have a question though....surely the rising and movement of the dead bait in the flow,depends on the size and weight of the dead bait ??? Not everything floats .
Would you need to inject air into the bait or use some pop up material ???
Hi and thank you for your comment ive used mainly sardines with this rig to great effect but it depends on the flow to check my bait is working properly i let the float upto the surface to see the bait working properly before sending it back down to the required depth you do need a decent amount of flow for it to work 🙂 hope your enjoying the videos and welcome to the channel 🤝
@@luredbyesox
Many thanks for the reply....I'm keen to give that rig a try 👍👍👍
I do occasionally lure fish but dead baiting is def my fave 👍👍👍
@@Nick-01536 your more than welcome please do try it 🙂 let the float up to see if youve enough flow for it to work good luck 👍
my local has got a bit of flow...its a bit different from the usual paternoster...it looks a winner!....tight lines....gonna try it on my next river sesh....good name as well sd rig!,,,👍
Hi mate and thanks for your comment its certainly something ive never seen anywhere before and ive had great results using it the beauty of it is you can twitch your bait rising n falling in the flow making it irresistiable to a hungry pike working the current for an easy meal 🙂🐊👍
I have used this rig but modified to have an heavy flouro carbon uptrace to prevent the pike coming through and damaging/cutting the main line braid. On the up trace I keep the float fixed but have moveable stop knots either side of the float to set the height. This is not as variable as your rig but I think that it is maybe safer. The biggest issue is casting as the weight and bait want to seperate in the air, as a result I only use at short distance.
That,s brilliant mate 👍🙂 the issue with casting and separation have you tried pva string i forgot to mention that in the video 👌😊 thank,s for commenting mate 🤝🙂
@@luredbyesox I have thought about the PVA string idea bu I generally tend to underarm the rig a very short distance, normally to the edge of a slack where it meets the main current.
@@marchogg3753 yeah i tend to swing into the main flow n tighten up as its dropping to bring everything together the rig goes down in an arc to where i want it to be its a great rig i thought maybe people have used it or something similar but ive never seen it in any video,s or magazines so thought i,d put it out there 👍🙂
I use the same rig in The Netherlands. I use a cork. I catch zander and pike with it.
That,s brilliant mate ive done really well on it in the past i should use it more but i just love watching the float sail away or the hit on lures you cant beat it 👌😎
Nice on may have to give that a go,wont be out much now untill January,what with work getting busy now with christmas ....
Hi ian hope your well give it a go mate its been a go to rig for me especially on my local river 👍 ive never seen it in any magazines or video,s so thought id put it out there 🙂 "the SD rig" 😄
As long as its not an STD rig now that another story 🤣
@@parklandpiker 🤣🤣🤣
Looks like a winner my only change would be a longer trace to mate sure of no bite offs :-) It works similar to Float paternoster rigs for running water :-)
Hi adie thats a good point i have fished it with an uptrace but it,s quite safe with an 18inch trace similar to straight ledgering but i have fished it both ways with similar results so yes an uptrace is the way to go thanks for your comment have you subscribed? If not please join the channel it would be great to have you 🙂🤝
Hi Aidie and all I have been using the paternoster in about 4ft of water, can I ask if you hook head or tail first when you use it in flow? Thanks 👌
@@stevenclements1090 hi steven with this rig you hook the bait head first in order to try get your bait swimming in the flow give it a go and let us know how you get on thanks for your comment 👍🙂
Hi Steven as Lured by esox says hook it head first and also worth trying is putting a bend in the fish so it wobbles more in the flow of water It can help on some days when other wise they seem to just sit and watch the bait :-)
Thankyou
It's like a running sunken float paternoster, looks good.
Hi mate and thanks for joining the chat 🤝 its very similar but very different in the way you can work the bait twitching lifting and falling proves irresistable to a hungry pike working the flow looking for a easy meal 😉 give it a try n let us all know how you get on with it too 👍🐊 feel free to share the video on your platforms it would be great if we could help people to catch that elusive pb 🙂🤝
I haven't seen this rig anywhere myself.
I use a paternoster rig for a lot of my fishing and it gets a lot of pike on river or still water. It's made a massive difference in the numbers of pike I have over a years fishing at least double the amount but I do miss a lot of runs on it.
Another option that I don't use but I have been thinking of trying is the
free running sunken paternoster rig. It would offer a similar effect as the rig you have been using.
Hi robert thanks for commenting people may have used something similar in the past but i certainly hav,nt seen it in 30yrs of pike fishing i needed to get my bait off bottom because of cray,s first time i used it i brought the bait upto the surface to see if it was working and a pike took it pretty much straight away ever since then ive had a few good fish on it 👍🙂
@@luredbyesox I'm going to give it a try with a little tweak scrapping the ledger and just using a 2 foot length of line between the lead and o ring.
It's looks easier to setup than the free running paternoster which is why I haven't used that method before.
Mitten crabs are becoming a problem on my two favourite rivers and crayfish have been around for quite some time.
I gave it a try unfortunately it didn't work on the day It was a very tough cold day.
I could see it working in the margins while looking at what it sits like. I'll try it again hopefully in better conditions.
@@robertdenman153 well done for trying it though robert if you watched my most recent video i fished the flaot ledger rig that normally works but i struggled too i think its the sudden temperature drop thats done it 🤔 when i get chance im going to do a video on how the rig works and hopefully catch on it the temps have come back up now so fingers crossed they,ll be on the feed 👍🙂
@@luredbyesox hopefully I'll get out again before Christmas.
Not sure if I'll be on the canal or river next trip see how I feel near the time.
Definitely want to try it again it's got potential in the right swim.
I think it really needs making clear how important flow is with this rig. It’s a good rig but a complete no no if it’s a still or slow flowing water because of the bait sinking and settling next to the mainline that’s being pulled up in the water by the float. Good rig but experience is needed. No eddies or slacks. Just flow. Tidy.
Hi jamie i understand what your saying 👍 i did state in the video that this rig needs flow for it to work 🙂 its the whole idea of the mechanics of the rig to get your bait working in the flow to make it appear like a distressed fish ive never used it any other way if i were to fish a stillwater i wouldnt use it id pop the bait up off the lead instead 👍🙂 thanks for your comment 😊
It works on still waters if there's a good under tow
Thats good to know ive only ever used this rig on rivers with a nice bit of flow to get the bait moving 👍🙂
@@luredbyesox I've said it before it's a zigrig you can see it some can't
I get what your saying and i agree with you 👍 ive never actually seen it in any magazines being used for deadbaiting on rivers but as i said in video its maybe been used before
How can you use this on a still water. I think if saying things like that, you need to describe how. People new to piking will go out after reading a comment or two and think because they’ve seen a bloke saying it’s ok on UA-cam, then that’s fine. I would say that it is to dangerous to use on a still water. Surely you understand bitten off snap tackle likely means a dead fish.
Nice rig, You could add a little buoyancy to the bait too
Hi lee and thankyou for commenting 🤝🙂 ive never actually done that as i fish the rig in quite heavy flow if you give it a go please let us know how you get on 👍 thankyou again for watching 🙂
@@luredbyesoxyeah i think i will, adding something to the bait for less of a flow is what i was thinking.
@@leeh78 thats an idea i would be interested to see the results 👍🙂
It's a zig rig
Hi mate 👍🙂 i guess you could call it that only ever seen on carp video,s but as far as i know never seen in pike fishing 🤔 thankyou for commenting 🤝🙂
@@luredbyesox we all use the same rigs abit different