Are used to be one. Maybe that’s why I’m so critical about police officers. But I knew far too many criminal cops when I wore the badge. And the fact is for few cops actually face criminal repercussions for criminal behavior is ridiculous. Cops and I only need to be held liable but they need to be held liable to the fullest extent of the law because of what they do for a living.
What is this crap! My bike is way louder than this one and I've never had anyone complain. I also don't drive through Neighborhoods just randomly blip on the throttle.
I have no idea what the limits are there or whether they’re reasonable or not. But there’s a happy medium between “too quiet stock” and “goddamn that’s LOUD!!”. That’s where all my bikes have been. Straight pipe blasts in neighborhoods and next to restaurants are just stupid. And why voters start supporting these laws.
A ticket from this test was challenged in court in edmonton about five years ago. The ticket was thrown out because the test as they perform it doesn't comply with the SAE standard it was designed on. The vehicles passing by, and people within 2m of the tester all disqualify the results of the test. I had thought they had stopped doing this.
The test is flawed anyway as it fails to limit the vehicle to use only at sound levels below the limit. The rider should also request proof that the sound meter is calibrated prior to the test in addition to the back ground noise reading.
i had a cop pull me over in the rain and ask if he could search my car i said no so he put me i hand cuffs in the back of his police car he called for a k-9 and they spent 30 minutes out in the rain walking the dog around my car they found nothing so the cop let me go and asked me why i said no the the search .... i said because it was raining and i wanted to see how long you where going to stand out side in it
i got ya all beat!! lmao ok so i got pulled over on my 2004 ROAD ROD.. i admit i got on it but slowed down, he yanked me anyway. (local yokal) a SGT. no doubt, asked me if i had anything to drink at all today? my reply was "Yes sarge" he then asked me, "apporx how much & how long ago" i said "I been drinking all day long i would say about a gallons worth".. NEEDLESS TO SAY I WAS DOING THE IDIOT TEST, the WORKS!! PASSING ABSOLUTELY EVERY TEST & REQUEST THEY HAD ME DO! In a frustrated tone, the Sarge says to me, " I believe we may need a B.A.C. at the local ER. keep in mind this was a good bit of time passing by with the normal DUI/DWI field testing he had me doing. so as he mentioned the B.A.C., "i finally asked why do i need a B.A.C. test at the hospital, if i blew an absolute ZERO? I dont think my jug in my saddle bag contians any alcohol" He then says, "say that again, sir" so I pulled this SWISS TEA COOLER half gallon plastic jug from my saddle bag!!... 😂🤣😅 He WAS FREAKING FURIOUS!! He did cite me, i plead NOT GUILTY.. I WON! Because in his "OWN" testimony he stated, his EXACT question was, "Had you had anything to drink at all today or this evening?" In cooperation with a law enforcement officer, i told the truth in saying "YES, I have". He never once asked if i had consumed any alcohol!! NEEDLESS TO SAY THAT SERGEANT HATES ME, TO THIS DAY!! THAT WAS 3 YEARS AGO, IN PENNSYLVANIA!!
I have never seen this extent of noise testing before...Meanwhile you got freaks driving around with stereos so FN loud they couldn't hear if a train hit them or not.
+knifegunguy i guess if ALL canadian cops weren't bound by an oath to serve the queen and not the public WHICH THEY CLAIM this video wouldn't have even been made. but seeing as even the 'good cops' cover up for the actions of 'bad cops' with silence, All Cops Are Bastards.
I ride a Harley and was a cop for 30 years in California. I NEVER pulled over anyone who wasn't acting a fool.! Looks like the cops in Edmonton don't have much to do or it's just a chicken shit place to live!
Edmontonian here, our cops are led by a dick of a chief, that has publicly stated he hates bikers. the bylaw is written specific to bikes, and not all vehicles, because he hates us, and wants to make sure bikers are unsafe on our roads. ua-cam.com/video/doPBawVKO6k/v-deo.html watch this idiot try to defend the stupid laws... haha edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/edmonton-councillor-calls-for-more-enforcement-against-noisy-mufflers they clearly think loud pipe are more of an issue than motor vehicle related fatalities.
My complaint would be leaving an air cooled bike running that long without moving. A Harley that's already at operating temperature takes less than a minute at idle to start over heating. More than three minutes at idle without moving you get hot enough to start loosing viscosity in the oil. At five minutes it's hot enough to start swelling the cylinder walls. Let alone someone trying to rev the engine to 2000 RPMs the whole time. If/when this happens to me I'll allow them to perform their test in three minute intervals with a 20 minute cool down between. This way I won't be refusing the test and my bike won't be getting damaged.
All a PIG is, is a cost factor. You take these cars these pigs drive around in for example. A PIG will sit in ther car with it idling in the hot sun with the AC on in the summer and spend an hour eating free tacos they get at taco bell at least two times per day. Anytime in the summer heat you sit parked running an AC in any car it gets enormously HOT. But then the PIG does not care. Same as a stupid PIG will tell a motorsit at night to shut their engine off but leave the parking lights on while they go fuck around doing a radio check on you. Then the PIG runs around and EXTORTS motorist and does nothing about actual crime.. The PIG is a paid entity to steal and destroy and waste. In that video above that was a bunch of bored donut eating PIGS that wanted to try out their new acadamey equipment they were issued. These PIGS were told at the academy Go out and pull over motirist and try your equipmet out and learn how it works and the public motorist must comply. So therefore they use the motorist vehicle for their own education and hands on training and of course this is at the motorist expense. Furthermore all PIGS would already know that that particular Evo harley is way under the noise level. That is a quiet harley and has mufflers as to where baffles only are completely legal on a harley davidson and twice as loud as what is in the video would be allowed and they know this. There are seperate laws for Harleys than that of foreign motorcycles being they are used in military in the US and law enforcement and are of same country. I know this because I have belonged to the HOG group since 1978. Those were classroom cadets in the video fucking with people on the streets
I think the equipment was working just fine.. They just could not get your bike to fail the noise laws and continued trying over and over with no sucess....
As a Harley owner and a Master mechanic this was a complete bogus test. the German rpm vibration tool is commonly used for lawn mowers and its only accurate if its directly on the motor and not on the seat or fuel tank. and it is true that the microphone test should be completed at three car lengths away from the source.
I've only had this happen to me as well.....I do have a tachometer and regardless the result was the same. Was told they couldn't get an ' accurate' reading. Police officer said 'well you realize I should give you a ticket', to which I responded ' well that should play out well in court as you were unable to get a reading'. The three police officers went into a huddle on the side and then one came back to let me know I could go. It was frustrating as it probably took close to 45 min to an hour.
this cop has no idea what he was doing. that bike never got to 2000 RPM at all, maybe 1500 rpm. You would think with these cops checking Motorcycle noise that they would know at least what a bike would sound like at 2000 rpm. There are noise ordnances in some cities where I live and with the amount of back lash from the biker community they rarely enforce it anymore. To be honest if the bike has some sort of baffles and not just straight pipes then you should not be harrased.
Those cops don't look competent in using that equipment. Inconsistent results and no regard for this blokes bike re overheating. I don't know if I remain that calm...
cop has no fucking business cranking on the throttle of your bike_ I don't give a shit if he is a cop. Man this is some kind of weird. Makes the cops look bad.
+Jimmy Gangster Depending on the year, hardleys have 'parade mode' that intermittently shut off a cylinder. They are also tested in the 'hot box' for cooling issues. that looks like a twinkie, so it can sit there for a very long time and not overheat. It isn't like my ironeads or triumphs....and that thing is quiet compared to my bikes too.
I personally would not have allowed them to damage my equipment like that, I would be seeing them in court for refusing the test, anyone who knows the first thing about air cooled engines know that is simply abusive. Motorcyclist in your area need to file a class action lawsuit to stop this nonsense.
Also Richard, I'm glad that the first link you came across on your Google search brought to an anti noise position site. What you can't see are the other sites that have good research supporting loud motorcycles, bright clothing, and appropriate apparel combined with skilled riding do save lives. I can understand your position though that the loud bikes passing your house are annoying, especially when you're trying to sleep. There are lots of throttle junkies out there.
I've seen you riding around Edmonton before. Beautiful machine!!! I'm really hoping this didn't result in a ticket as the tool being used to calculate your RPM was incorrectly used. Once again proving that the EPS is not properly trained on how to perform their job. The female officer clearly has no idea how to even answer your questions properly and the male officer remains confused as to how to perform the test at all.
alas, the proper distance to measure decibel limit levels is 3 lanes or 3 car lengths away, not 3 feet --- in california anyway. EDIT: anyway, who gets the bill if you've blown your air-cooled motor just for these 'tests'?
I wounder if you can rig your bike up to detonate it when some one like this noise officer is doing record it boom destroyed your motorcycle during the test they performed and had control of would this hold up ? Any thoughts
Why? Because their too busy having to deal with BS like this. Had there not have been an issue, they would have had nothing to do and would have moved on. But, people always want the laws that they are not breaking enforced, and the ones they are breaking ignored. Ask anyone caught speeding if they cops should be out preventing other crimes, and the cops would say they would be, if no one was speeding.
Catching real criminals costs money, this type of bullshit raises money! Tell the dickheads to write the fucking ticket and see them in court after you put some kind baffle on it!
+Rob Brown again, orange vests are for SIGHT! I will never crank my bike to piss people off, but if my pipes make a little extra noise so some grandma (grandpa) hears them and doesn't cut me off, I'll gladly pay my fines
You don't want to wear a safety vest, so your self centered needs are more important than the rest of us. You can ride around and disturb everyone who still has there hearing. What gives you that right? Are you more important than everyone else.
PMikMech, please correct me if I'm reading your statement wrong. You seem to be saying that because the cop took his reading from behind and and at a 45 degree angle from the tail pipe that that made the bike louder. You can't be saying that because that doesn't make sense. The whole point of the test is to get an accurate reading of what the bike really, really sounds like.
Yep. At 45 degrees from the rear muffler the meter he is using is at about 20 degrees from the front muffler. Making it more in the direct gas flow from the front muffler. Thus increasing the reading.
I truly don't mean to be confrontational or sarcastic but that is nonsense. There are no front and rear mufflers. The noise comes from the tail pipe, the back end of the tail pipe where the hole is. To get the reading of the actual decibels, that's where you set up for the reading.
No worries. There are two. The front one exits just behind the oil tank where the rear fender starts and the second exits about 5 inches from the rear axle.
because the noise makers area big problem and just because there are people committing other crimes doesn't make the noise problem something to be ignored.
is this what law enforcement has become, a freaking money making machine wow i am sure tax payer money can be put to better use like actual crime fighting hello
vabch82 Why bitch about it? Just watch any video of sturgis and you will see SHITLOADS of harleys blub blubing along main street at walking speed ! There goes your argument about that ! Loud pipes poor substitute for no skill
bhahhahaahhHhHh can't even do the test properly hahhahha I wounder how many bikers that cop gave tickets too that were diagnosed buy false reading do to poor examinations,that was nothing but a scam
WTF kind of voodoo is THAT????? What's next? a divining rod????........That's like Graham Greene in 'Thunderheart' saying, "Radar?...no, the wind told me...he's doing 75 in a 50...Nail 'em!!"
Jared,camen is the animal skin, farmed of course, the back rest is handmade,and the seat is a mamouth product,seat was sewn by Valker Urbab out of Edmonton Alberta.
specific spots for testing the first one and only one other cant be moving around trying to get a better number, and if there is no tach cant attempt the off idle test
glad they don't do that in Ontario. they would a loved my vance n hines short shots lol. starting to see cars are so distracted fucking with phones my pipes still ain't loud enough.
+charles mccormick Lol. Obviously an American. There are only 2 provinces (we don't have dozens of little states) that have provincial police forces. Only our large cities have city police and the federal cops, the RCMP are nation-wide.There are no provincial police in Alberta. He could have got the RCMP involved but what do you figure they woulda done? Arrested the city cop?He could not have sued anyone for damages unless he or his property suffered from damages. It's like that up here in Canada. We can't sue someone just cause we're mad at them. In order to be awarded damages.. well $, you have to be OUT some money.So, imagine that his engine locked-up on him, he missed work, got fired and then lost his house because he couldn't make the mortgage payment that month and then his wife left him cause her and the kids were tired of living in a BOX, ... well even THEN, in Canada, we don't sue. You will never hear of a Canadian who sued McDonalds because the hot apple pie filling burnt their tongue.Even if dude could afford a lawyer (clearly he can.. did you see that huge Jesus cross on the tank? and the $10K paintjob?), the lawyer would recommend he leave it be. The bike was probably about to blow-up anyway. AND.. HD themselves said that running any of their bikes at 2000RPM on a 110degree day for even 10 minutes aint gonna blow-up the engine. That was very obviously an highly modified bike so yeah, it was obviously on its last legs already.Now supposing all that happened, he found the best lawyer in all the land, they took it to the Supreme Court of Canada and WON... oh wait..this isn't criminal.. to the highest CIVIL Court in the country and and WON...almost never are punitive damages awarded in Canada. I bet the largest settlement ever awarded in a Canadian civil decision is less than $10 million. We just don't sue up here cause...99.9999999 times out of TEN, it aint worth it.Please don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to offend you or start a fight or anything. Just explaining one more difference between the USA and Canada. You guys sue, we don't.Oh and... sue a POLICE FORCE??? Good LUCK with that.I bet it has been successfully done in Canada fewer than TEN times?All that said, oh and you would HAVE to stand there and let them...what would you do? Just walk away?but yeah... SUCH a BS test. I'm gonna go make my own comment cause I got a few choice words about that.And again CharlesMcCormick, I hope I haven't offended you. It was not my intent. Just illustrating.
+blaren1 As an American you didn't offend me. It's perfectly fine to point out the differences in our countries. The US would probably be better off with less lawsuits. As far as being generally offensive, I do think it is ironic though that Americans get labeled as 'arrogant' far more often than Canadians when EVERY and I mean EVERY Canadian I've ever spoken with for more than 10 minutes lists all the ways that Canada is superior. Essentially what your saying though is the private property rights don't enjoy the same protection in Canada, as in the owner has no effective rights to collect on damages other than to physical property.
A good friend of mine, recently told me to avoid riding in Edmonton? I asked why? He explained that if you go thru Edmonton you'll get stop on your Bike, to which I replied ok, bring it on, I'm a licensed, insured Senior, go for it... So last summer on the way to the Yukon I swung up to Edmonton and you know what, never got pulled over...? I was so looking forward to it, but at last no go...But I enjoyed the ride thru the city, pretty nice one too.
I keep hearing this argument about loud pipes saving lives. The ironic part is that in terms of "safety", it is always voiced from the riders on big, overweight, underpowered, poor maneuvering, terrible braking machines wearing no sleeves and a helmet on that wouldn't protect you from a fall off your couch.
Harley Davidson's are just noise makers..... what did the cops expect? They've spent millions of dollars to engineer the most efficient way to convert gasoline into noise without the pesky side-affect of horsepower. This one sounds like it's working at peek efficiency.
Apparently this is in Canada, so different laws than US in some regards. Can you politely decline consent to a search? Really, that is what they're doing -- searching your exhaust for the presence of unlawful decibels. Granted, they'll do the test anyway. And what happens if you make them do all the work -- wouldn't it incriminate them, since they're the ones who are on video revving the bike to (whatever) RPM and actually making the noise? They can't prove that you did that.
police use is inneficient, however some of us have to sleep during the day. being a seasonal firefighter, I tend to take nights because I don't have bogeys in front of me. I'd rather not hear a straight piped harley when sleeping offshift.
I am quite pro-law enforcement. I love my quiet suburban neighborhood. I also love my Vstar 1100 custom with the baffeles removed. Cars stop when they hear me. people look for me on the highway. I ride in the "bubble" concept but my loud bike, my consciousness and horn keep me safe. This (Biker should have been left alone.
I can see why though crotchrockets/Harleys are loud I have straight piped exhaust on my 4.3L V6 and the only time a bike isn't a loud as my vehicle is when I'm under WOT.
He being the cop/is not qualified to carry out such a test and the fact that he failed proves he’s not qualified.and a dummy.I would have taken the keys out soon as he touched the throttle.He has no right to operate your vehicle without your authority/not to say probably has no motorcycle license
dang, how long does it take to check the decibels with their equipment?? and your telling me they get to put their hands on your throttle too? what if you told them nobody touches my bike except me.. I'm glad down in louisiana even the police and the state troopers run wide open exhaust on their harleys.. they know loud pipes save lives..and even if your sitting at a light and rap the fucker up rite next to a cop in a car they don't care, they just look over and laugh... I feel sorry for you guys living there..
Loud pipes don't save lives. Knowing how to ride and being defensive saves lives. I challenge anyone to show evidence that having pipes so loud that they annoy people in their houses as you drive by saves lives.
Damn Dude! That is one BADASS BIKE!!! Every where you look there's eye candy! Very Impressed! I love bikes like yours! I know you didn't paint it but did you build it?
When you put on open pipes , the mix on fuel/ air goes to lean side and cause extra heat. This will cause the Harleys to seize up and kill themselves. My bike has a noise-level on 86dB at 4000rpms and it is more comfortable compared to these loud bikes. Loud pipes saves nothing and only irritates people.
This is ridiculous. I wanted to be a cop when I was young. I'm glad I didn't go that route as I'd be ashamed of myself.
me too. screw that
Are used to be one. Maybe that’s why I’m so critical about police officers. But I knew far too many criminal cops when I wore the badge. And the fact is for few cops actually face criminal repercussions for criminal behavior is ridiculous. Cops and I only need to be held liable but they need to be held liable to the fullest extent of the law because of what they do for a living.
What is this crap! My bike is way louder than this one and I've never had anyone complain. I also don't drive through Neighborhoods just randomly blip on the throttle.
@@tkchillin2065 ,
I've got a 2004 XL1200R Sportster with Vance & Hines exhaust, so far I've never had any problems over noise with the Police.
I have no idea what the limits are there or whether they’re reasonable or not. But there’s a happy medium between “too quiet stock” and “goddamn that’s LOUD!!”. That’s where all my bikes have been. Straight pipe blasts in neighborhoods and next to restaurants are just stupid. And why voters start supporting these laws.
A ticket from this test was challenged in court in edmonton about five years ago. The ticket was thrown out because the test as they perform it doesn't comply with the SAE standard it was designed on. The vehicles passing by, and people within 2m of the tester all disqualify the results of the test. I had thought they had stopped doing this.
The test is flawed anyway as it fails to limit the vehicle to use only at sound levels below the limit.
The rider should also request proof that the sound meter is calibrated prior to the test in addition to the back ground noise reading.
Well it says that the video was 10 years ago.....
i had a cop pull me over in the rain and ask if he could search my car i said no so he put me i hand cuffs in the back of his police car he called for a k-9 and they spent 30 minutes out in the rain walking the dog around my car they found nothing so the cop let me go and asked me why i said no the the search .... i said because it was raining and i wanted to see how long you where going to stand out side in it
Hahaha backfire on cop
lol....awesome
I would say no for the simple reason that I am not there for his fishing purposes and he can get a warrant.
hahaha
i got ya all beat!! lmao
ok so i got pulled over on my 2004 ROAD ROD.. i admit i got on it but slowed down, he yanked me anyway. (local yokal)
a SGT. no doubt, asked me if i had anything to drink at all today? my reply was "Yes sarge" he then asked me, "apporx how much & how long ago" i said "I been drinking all day long i would say about a gallons worth"..
NEEDLESS TO SAY I WAS DOING THE IDIOT TEST, the WORKS!! PASSING ABSOLUTELY EVERY TEST & REQUEST THEY HAD ME DO!
In a frustrated tone, the Sarge says to me, " I believe we may need a B.A.C. at the local ER.
keep in mind this was a good bit of time passing by with the normal DUI/DWI field testing he had me doing. so as he mentioned the B.A.C., "i finally asked why do i need a B.A.C. test at the hospital, if i blew an absolute ZERO?
I dont think my jug in my saddle bag contians any alcohol" He then says, "say that again, sir" so I pulled this SWISS TEA COOLER half gallon plastic jug from my saddle bag!!... 😂🤣😅
He WAS FREAKING FURIOUS!!
He did cite me, i plead NOT GUILTY..
I WON! Because in his "OWN" testimony he stated, his EXACT question was, "Had you had anything to drink at all today or this evening?"
In cooperation with a law enforcement officer, i told the truth in saying "YES, I have". He never once asked if i had consumed any alcohol!!
NEEDLESS TO SAY THAT SERGEANT HATES ME, TO THIS DAY!! THAT WAS 3 YEARS AGO, IN PENNSYLVANIA!!
After watching the whole thing it seemed your bike was a guinea pig in a test they had no clue how to perform.
And wasting all his fuel
I have never seen this extent of noise testing before...Meanwhile you got freaks driving around with stereos so FN loud they couldn't hear if a train hit them or not.
Two wrongs don't make either right. The car stereo is as much a problem as the loud pipes.
@@jean-clauded5823 ,
I think the stereo was used as a hypothetical.
Total waste of police resources.
I am a police officer and that was BS I am ashamed, some cops suck. Nice bike.
I tip my hat to you sir! that was complete bs
+knifegunguy You the real hero.
+knifegunguy i guess if ALL canadian cops weren't bound by an oath to serve the queen and not the public WHICH THEY CLAIM this video wouldn't have even been made.
but seeing as even the 'good cops' cover up for the actions of 'bad cops' with silence, All Cops Are Bastards.
typical, you only enforce laws you agree with?
seems to be the standard of business these days though plenty videos to support that
I just get angrier and angrier watching this.
I ride a Harley and was a cop for 30 years in California. I NEVER pulled over anyone who wasn't acting a fool.! Looks like the cops in Edmonton don't have much to do or it's just a chicken shit place to live!
I live in Edmonton. Yeah the cops here are pure shit. Out too grab money and that is all they care for.
"B"
Edmontonian here, our cops are led by a dick of a chief, that has publicly stated he hates bikers.
the bylaw is written specific to bikes, and not all vehicles, because he hates us, and wants to make sure bikers are unsafe on our roads.
ua-cam.com/video/doPBawVKO6k/v-deo.html
watch this idiot try to defend the stupid laws... haha
edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/edmonton-councillor-calls-for-more-enforcement-against-noisy-mufflers
they clearly think loud pipe are more of an issue than motor vehicle related fatalities.
Tom Boyte it's all about the$$$ that's all
As the EPS were hassling this guy probably 12 meth heads in stolen vehicles with stolen firearms drive by...
This is an example of police wasting police time.
And taxpayer money
My complaint would be leaving an air cooled bike running that long without moving.
A Harley that's already at operating temperature takes less than a minute at idle to start over heating. More than three minutes at idle without moving you get hot enough to start loosing viscosity in the oil. At five minutes it's hot enough to start swelling the cylinder walls. Let alone someone trying to rev the engine to 2000 RPMs the whole time.
If/when this happens to me I'll allow them to perform their test in three minute intervals with a 20 minute cool down between. This way I won't be refusing the test and my bike won't be getting damaged.
JOHN DEERE no solution.. tell cop no!!
+JOHN DEERE Might be the dumbest comment on UA-cam.
You have some mommy issues, don't ya? Seek professional help.
OK, that explains a lot then.
All a PIG is, is a cost factor. You take these cars these pigs drive around in for example. A PIG will sit in ther car with it idling in the hot sun with the AC on in the summer and spend an hour eating free tacos they get at taco bell at least two times per day. Anytime in the summer heat you sit parked running an AC in any car it gets enormously HOT. But then the PIG does not care. Same as a stupid PIG will tell a motorsit at night to shut their engine off but leave the parking lights on while they go fuck around doing a radio check on you. Then the PIG runs around and EXTORTS motorist and does nothing about actual crime.. The PIG is a paid entity to steal and destroy and waste. In that video above that was a bunch of bored donut eating PIGS that wanted to try out their new acadamey equipment they were issued. These PIGS were told at the academy Go out and pull over motirist and try your equipmet out and learn how it works and the public motorist must comply. So therefore they use the motorist vehicle for their own education and hands on training and of course this is at the motorist expense. Furthermore all PIGS would already know that that particular Evo harley is way under the noise level. That is a quiet harley and has mufflers as to where baffles only are completely legal on a harley davidson and twice as loud as what is in the video would be allowed and they know this. There are seperate laws for Harleys than that of foreign motorcycles being they are used in military in the US and law enforcement and are of same country. I know this because I have belonged to the HOG group since 1978. Those were classroom cadets in the video fucking with people on the streets
I think the equipment was working just fine.. They just could not get your bike to fail the noise laws and continued trying over and over with no sucess....
Wow just wow. Can't believe this is actually happening. We all know motorcycles are loud.
I think "Mr. Masonry" has a valid point, He must have a History with the Po-Po.
As a Harley owner and a Master mechanic this was a complete bogus test. the German rpm vibration tool is commonly used for lawn mowers and its only accurate if its directly on the motor and not on the seat or fuel tank. and it is true that the microphone test should be completed at three car lengths away from the source.
Yup..I used own one when I was a small engine mechanic
I've only had this happen to me as well.....I do have a tachometer and regardless the result was the same. Was told they couldn't get an ' accurate' reading. Police officer said 'well you realize I should give you a ticket', to which I responded ' well that should play out well in court as you were unable to get a reading'. The three police officers went into a huddle on the side and then one came back to let me know I could go. It was frustrating as it probably took close to 45 min to an hour.
Many times they are just wasting time and spending taxpayers dollars, I'm sure you agree with that.
this cop has no idea what he was doing. that bike never got to 2000 RPM at all, maybe 1500 rpm. You would think with these cops checking Motorcycle noise that they would know at least what a bike would sound like at 2000 rpm. There are noise ordnances in some cities where I live and with the amount of back lash from the biker community they rarely enforce it anymore. To be honest if the bike has some sort of baffles and not just straight pipes then you should not be harrased.
keep doing you man. theyre just upset they dont have a badass sounding bike like you.
Those cops don't look competent in using that equipment. Inconsistent results and no regard for this blokes bike re overheating. I don't know if I remain that calm...
I'm sorry for you Man! I can't believe they don't have anything else to do than bothering bikers! This is the f... system, shame on them! Respect Man!
I suspect this guy has a history with them. They are just fucking with him
Somewhere there was a felony happening, and they're wasting manpower on bullschitt like this.
So, how much damage was done to your motor
cop has no fucking business cranking on the throttle of your bike_ I don't give a shit if he is a cop. Man this is some kind of weird. Makes the cops look bad.
dicktheplumber2 So maybe the cop should just impound it
That bike should not overheat that easy ,if so something's wrong with it. I get stuck in traffic longer than that ,and never had a issue.
+dicktheplumber2 That's because all pigs are terrible people. They make themselves look bad.
+duane howard Bikes that are aircooled are well, cooled by air, that bike gets NO COOLING sitting there being revved to shit for no reason.
+Jimmy Gangster Depending on the year, hardleys have 'parade mode' that intermittently shut off a cylinder. They are also tested in the 'hot box' for cooling issues. that looks like a twinkie, so it can sit there for a very long time and not overheat. It isn't like my ironeads or triumphs....and that thing is quiet compared to my bikes too.
I personally would not have allowed them to damage my equipment like that, I would be seeing them in court for refusing the test, anyone who knows the first thing about air cooled engines know that is simply abusive. Motorcyclist in your area need to file a class action lawsuit to stop this nonsense.
Also Richard, I'm glad that the first link you came across on your Google search brought to an anti noise position site. What you can't see are the other sites that have good research supporting loud motorcycles, bright clothing, and appropriate apparel combined with skilled riding do save lives. I can understand your position though that the loud bikes passing your house are annoying, especially when you're trying to sleep. There are lots of throttle junkies out there.
Three separate police cars! You would have thought it was a 300 pound weed bust. Nice waste of taxpayers dollars.
Cody Moore BWAHAHAHAHA 😂😂
What was the little black thing he kept moving around the bike. The black round thing ?
Man I keep wanting to turn it off lol. Too long to idle it. Dang it eh? NIce tank console.
I've seen you riding around Edmonton before. Beautiful machine!!! I'm really hoping this didn't result in a ticket as the tool being used to calculate your RPM was incorrectly used. Once again proving that the EPS is not properly trained on how to perform their job. The female officer clearly has no idea how to even answer your questions properly and the male officer remains confused as to how to perform the test at all.
alas, the proper distance to measure decibel limit levels is 3 lanes or 3 car lengths away, not 3 feet --- in california anyway. EDIT: anyway, who gets the bill if you've blown your air-cooled motor just for these 'tests'?
I wounder if you can rig your bike up to detonate it when some one like this noise officer is doing record it boom destroyed your motorcycle during the test they performed and had control of would this hold up ? Any thoughts
How much would they pay to put ones' ear into the gap between the cylinders where they inserted the sensor head?? (PS do they do the same to cages??)
this is petty and obviously just a way to collect revenue so they can benefit the city somehow.because they can't protect and serve worth a Damn
rob work your 100% correct
I feel so much safer now. MUH THIN BLUE LINE!
Why aren't they out catching real criminals. FFS haven't they anything better to do?
Why? Because their too busy having to deal with BS like this. Had there not have been an issue, they would have had nothing to do and would have moved on. But, people always want the laws that they are not breaking enforced, and the ones they are breaking ignored. Ask anyone caught speeding if they cops should be out preventing other crimes, and the cops would say they would be, if no one was speeding.
Because they cant
Catching real criminals costs money, this type of bullshit raises money! Tell the dickheads to write the fucking ticket and see them in court after you put some kind baffle on it!
After watching the whole video, this has to be some kind Super Trooper parody!!!
Para que sirve esa prueba de sonido, cual es el nivel óptimo que debe tener los escapes de esta moto?
Existe un tipo de restricción?
What was that thing they where touching all over the bike?
what a waste of our dollars, you should have told them they owe you 20.00 for your waste of time and gas and wear on your motor
not a waste. quality of life is important. your free to do as you pls until it impacts someone else. noise pollution impacts all around.
+Rob Brown loud pipes can make other drivers hear bikes they may not normally see. They save lives!
Wear an orange vest
+Rob Brown again, orange vests are for SIGHT! I will never crank my bike to piss people off, but if my pipes make a little extra noise so some grandma (grandpa) hears them and doesn't cut me off, I'll gladly pay my fines
You don't want to wear a safety vest, so your self centered needs are more important than the rest of us. You can ride around and disturb everyone who still has there hearing. What gives you that right? Are you more important than everyone else.
Nice work Mr. Leahy
🤣🤣😂
You're welcome Randers
Never ever ever ever help them incriminate yourself. If they want to do the test they can do it all by themselves
What will that meter read on a Boss Hoss v8 or V8 Chopper
Dude, I love the paint work and the crocodile leather seat covers...also love the other fittings .....awesome man...keep riding...
45ᵒ from forward most exhaust makes the DB test invalid.
He had it 45ᵒ from rear making it less for the forward exhaust,and consequently louder.
PMikMech, please correct me if I'm reading your statement wrong. You
seem to be saying that because the cop took his reading from behind and
and at a 45 degree angle from the tail pipe that that made the bike
louder.
You can't be saying that because that doesn't make sense. The whole point of the test is to get an accurate reading of what the bike really, really sounds like.
Yep. At 45 degrees from the rear muffler the meter he is using is at about 20 degrees from the front muffler. Making it more in the direct gas flow from the front muffler. Thus increasing the reading.
I truly don't mean to be confrontational or sarcastic but that is nonsense. There are no front and rear mufflers. The noise comes from the tail pipe, the back end of the tail pipe where the hole is. To get the reading of the actual decibels, that's where you set up for the reading.
No worries. There are two.
The front one exits just behind the oil tank where the rear fender starts and the second exits about 5 inches from the rear axle.
Oh shit... of course.... I see what you mean.
Harley: Converting gasoline to noise since 1903.
Wow! Never heard that one!
Harley: still using the same technology today that they used in 1903....
@@Jimmythefish577 if it ain't broke, do not fix it.
This is a noise tax! Just another way the kingdom makes money. Believe it or not the town I live in has a water softener permit (tax) What the F#@k!!
The digit readout in your speedometer will show RPM's won't it? My '14 does.
Here in philippines they never use decibel meter they just test it using their ear, pretty amazing right? Futuristic
Well if they'll do this with bikes then they should also cite people blasting their music just as loud
I agree, they should target both groups.
So Ridiculous! Why isn't the cop out catching people who run traffic lights and kill people.?
Thanks everyone for your comments, we just want to be treated fairly, not singled out...peace, Dan.
Because they cant. Not as easy as catching the little things , like a cool sounding bike.
because the noise makers area big problem and just because there are people committing other crimes doesn't make the noise problem something to be ignored.
so we should pass noise laws regarding lawnmowers and leaf blowers? I also find my neighbours wind chimes really annoying.
No, we need to enforce the laws already on the books, including mufflerless engine noise.
is this what law enforcement has become, a freaking money making machine wow i am sure tax payer money can be put to better use like actual crime fighting hello
Omg do they know what they're doing at all? How are they taking that vibration?
I wonder how many of these guys work shifts ?
I'll be god damned you run my Harley sitting still for 10 god damn minutes!!!
vabch82 Why is he touching his bike ---- slap mm
Checking his heart beat .
vabch82 Why bitch about it? Just watch any video of sturgis and you will see SHITLOADS of harleys blub blubing along main street at walking speed ! There goes your argument about that ! Loud pipes poor substitute for no skill
You be a bad mamajama, you douchebag a Harley will not run 10 minutes with overheating a seizing up.
You own a Harley that will run for 10 minutes, no way!
bhahhahaahhHhHh can't even do the test properly hahhahha I wounder how many bikers that cop gave tickets too that were diagnosed buy false reading do to poor examinations,that was nothing but a scam
I've been riding for 50 years now, knock on wood. And more than once loud pipes has saved my can from day dreamers driving in to me.
As there are so many people in favour of noisy bikes maybe they should make gated villages especially for them or even better a whole township
Can someone explain how that device tells whether a a bike is running at 2K?
Some people ride to be seen, some people ride to be heard and some people just ride !!!
WTF kind of voodoo is THAT????? What's next? a divining rod????........That's like Graham Greene in 'Thunderheart' saying, "Radar?...no, the wind told me...he's doing 75 in a 50...Nail 'em!!"
This is FUNNY
Jared,camen is the animal skin, farmed of course, the back rest is handmade,and the seat is a mamouth product,seat was sewn by Valker Urbab out of Edmonton Alberta.
BackDoorDan1 OOVERHEATING MY HARLEY !!!! WAAAAAAAAwaaaaaaaaaSHUT UP
So they do the test till you fail?
specific spots for testing the first one and only one other cant be moving around trying to get a better number, and if there is no tach cant attempt the off idle test
Thats your private property dude. Hes no machanic And has no clue how to even work that b/s equipment
Yeah but I believe the female officer said that round device was made in Germany lol maybe it should have been American made.
glad they don't do that in Ontario. they would a loved my vance n hines short shots lol. starting to see cars are so distracted fucking with phones my pipes still ain't loud enough.
Don't fool yourself buddy they have in Ottowa and they still do.
nice bike!
Thanks for your comments everone.
+charles mccormick Lol. Obviously an American. There are only 2 provinces (we don't have dozens of little states) that have provincial police forces. Only our large cities have city police and the federal cops, the RCMP are nation-wide.There are no provincial police in Alberta. He could have got the RCMP involved but what do you figure they woulda done? Arrested the city cop?He could not have sued anyone for damages unless he or his property suffered from damages. It's like that up here in Canada. We can't sue someone just cause we're mad at them. In order to be awarded damages.. well $, you have to be OUT some money.So, imagine that his engine locked-up on him, he missed work, got fired and then lost his house because he couldn't make the mortgage payment that month and then his wife left him cause her and the kids were tired of living in a BOX, ... well even THEN, in Canada, we don't sue. You will never hear of a Canadian who sued McDonalds because the hot apple pie filling burnt their tongue.Even if dude could afford a lawyer (clearly he can.. did you see that huge Jesus cross on the tank? and the $10K paintjob?), the lawyer would recommend he leave it be. The bike was probably about to blow-up anyway. AND.. HD themselves said that running any of their bikes at 2000RPM on a 110degree day for even 10 minutes aint gonna blow-up the engine. That was very obviously an highly modified bike so yeah, it was obviously on its last legs already.Now supposing all that happened, he found the best lawyer in all the land, they took it to the Supreme Court of Canada and WON... oh wait..this isn't criminal.. to the highest CIVIL Court in the country and and WON...almost never are punitive damages awarded in Canada. I bet the largest settlement ever awarded in a Canadian civil decision is less than $10 million. We just don't sue up here cause...99.9999999 times out of TEN, it aint worth it.Please don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to offend you or start a fight or anything. Just explaining one more difference between the USA and Canada. You guys sue, we don't.Oh and... sue a POLICE FORCE??? Good LUCK with that.I bet it has been successfully done in Canada fewer than TEN times?All that said, oh and you would HAVE to stand there and let them...what would you do? Just walk away?but yeah... SUCH a BS test. I'm gonna go make my own comment cause I got a few choice words about that.And again CharlesMcCormick, I hope I haven't offended you. It was not my intent. Just illustrating.
+BackDoorDan1 hope you got your bike back and it's sweet
+blaren1 As an American you didn't offend me. It's perfectly fine to point out the differences in our countries. The US would probably be better off with less lawsuits.
As far as being generally offensive, I do think it is ironic though that Americans get labeled as 'arrogant' far more often than Canadians when EVERY and I mean EVERY Canadian I've ever spoken with for more than 10 minutes lists all the ways that Canada is superior.
Essentially what your saying though is the private property rights don't enjoy the same protection in Canada, as in the owner has no effective rights to collect on damages other than to physical property.
A good friend of mine, recently told me to avoid riding in Edmonton? I asked why? He explained that if you go thru Edmonton you'll get stop on your Bike, to which I replied ok, bring it on, I'm a licensed, insured Senior, go for it... So last summer on the way to the Yukon I swung up to Edmonton and you know what, never got pulled over...? I was so looking forward to it, but at last no go...But I enjoyed the ride thru the city, pretty nice one too.
Yeah, I was thinking they are going to overheat it. Frigg'n ball busters they are.
I keep hearing this argument about loud pipes saving lives. The ironic part is that in terms of "safety", it is always voiced from the riders on big, overweight, underpowered, poor maneuvering, terrible braking machines wearing no sleeves and a helmet on that wouldn't protect you from a fall off your couch.
You will be seeing more of these inspections as the police crackdown due to increasing straight pipe complaints.
Your tax dollars at work.
joeysixtysix extortion for your protection. ,)
Why not just pick up the rpm reading by clamping on to the coil, or spark plug?
This bike looks sick, do you still have it?
What a waste of time and money. I can't believe this is really happening.
U got me fucked up!!!! All these loud ass honda n Subarus backfiring like a ak47 but this is bad????
Harley Davidson's are just noise makers..... what did the cops expect? They've spent millions of dollars to engineer the most efficient way to convert gasoline into noise without the pesky side-affect of horsepower. This one sounds like it's working at peek efficiency.
I've been on a few harley's and they're sooooo gutless. Yes I feel and hear the engine, but the bikes barely move under their own power.
You are pretty funny
Pumpin that.... air
TheBrookian peak
Yep. My Harley makes a crap load of noise. And it would buck you off in one second flat
it's a bullshit scam, and you know it.
Is that Canada. Which country is this?
2mo nm1 Yes is is Edmonton Alberta
Ratridez Whats next regulating flatulence. Pffffffff! Cop: Pull over that was too loud.😁
2mo nm1 lol you never know up here , just another bylaw to get into your wallet .
Corpus delicti? Legalese def of driver, traffic etc?:)
Apparently this is in Canada, so different laws than US in some regards. Can you politely decline consent to a search? Really, that is what they're doing -- searching your exhaust for the presence of unlawful decibels. Granted, they'll do the test anyway. And what happens if you make them do all the work -- wouldn't it incriminate them, since they're the ones who are on video revving the bike to (whatever) RPM and actually making the noise? They can't prove that you did that.
police use is inneficient, however some of us have to sleep during the day. being a seasonal firefighter, I tend to take nights because I don't have bogeys in front of me. I'd rather not hear a straight piped harley when sleeping offshift.
I am quite pro-law enforcement. I love my quiet suburban neighborhood. I also love my Vstar 1100 custom with the baffeles removed. Cars stop when they hear me. people look for me on the highway. I ride in the "bubble" concept but my loud bike, my consciousness and horn keep me safe. This (Biker should have been left alone.
This cop has more gadgets than ghosts hunters do.
I can see why though crotchrockets/Harleys are loud I have straight piped exhaust on my 4.3L V6 and the only time a bike isn't a loud as my vehicle is when I'm under WOT.
it's the law..some bikes are too damn loud and they wake up neighbourhoods..
What a lot of BS! Go find something worth your time!
He being the cop/is not qualified to carry out such a test and the fact that he failed proves he’s not qualified.and a dummy.I would have taken the keys out soon as he touched the throttle.He has no right to operate your vehicle without your authority/not to say probably has no motorcycle license
dang, how long does it take to check the decibels with their equipment?? and your telling me they get to put their hands on your throttle too? what if you told them nobody touches my bike except me.. I'm glad down in louisiana even the police and the state troopers run wide open exhaust on their harleys.. they know loud pipes save lives..and even if your sitting at a light and rap the fucker up rite next to a cop in a car they don't care, they just look over and laugh... I feel sorry for you guys living there..
Loud pipes don't save lives. Knowing how to ride and being defensive saves lives.
I challenge anyone to show evidence that having pipes so loud that they annoy people in their houses as you drive by saves lives.
I think the bike overheated itself ?
what the fudge was that all about?
If all the jerks running around with open pipes would not it would be no big deal. I can't run open pipes on my hotrod on the street.
Terry Kohn in fl you can run strait pipes yeeeee haaaaaa
Not even comparable and noise Nimrod
Slow day in Edmonton? How petty....
Sounds like the cop is from Nigeria
man you smart....you could tell he was Nigerian from the sound of the pipes??? wow...we got a smart one here.
you better not visit Nigeria...cause when you commit an offence there, they don't give you a ticket....they take behind the bushes.
@@abdiomar1101 why would anybody want to visit nigeria.
Damn Dude! That is one BADASS BIKE!!! Every where you look there's eye candy! Very Impressed! I love bikes like yours! I know you didn't paint it but did you build it?
I hate loud motorcycles. If my car sounded like that I'd get a ticket. And "loud pipes save lives" is just so much bullshit.
It's all about the revenue.
or maybe....... keep mufflers on your bike like you know most sport bike guys, i mean my bike isnt annoying
When you put on open pipes , the mix on fuel/ air goes to lean side and cause extra heat. This will cause the Harleys to seize up and kill themselves.
My bike has a noise-level on 86dB at 4000rpms and it is more comfortable compared to these loud bikes.
Loud pipes saves nothing and only irritates people.
Dieter Meyer pussy
Where can I get the cross likes on your tank for my super glide
whats that norsk rune peice, i want jt
#LoudPipesSaveLives
Thats hard to watch.
All that time & in the end you were still good to go! Shameful police. They just embarrass themselves.
"You're good to go" No ticket? Very nice.
How loud were your pipes anyways?
What were they doing to your Harley nice bike by the way