The Ideology of Apocalypse (feat. Mad Max, Fallout New Vegas, Gurren Lagann & more)

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  • @thefollowingisatest4579
    @thefollowingisatest4579 4 роки тому +1023

    But if everyone isn't deep down an evil monster, how do I justify my own bad behavior?
    Oh..wait...

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 4 роки тому +6

      You can choose to turn marauder in Twilight 2000. But then you die. Even the small logistical support the NATO forces had is now barred to you. The supply guys who repaired your jeep now and then are unavailable. You can try to live off the polish peasants but other marauders get the same idea. And on the other side of the diffused front are the soviets. And at any moment, the communists might decide to take advantage of your new weakness.

    • @ItsAsparageese
      @ItsAsparageese 4 роки тому +57

      I've been saying a thing ever since the first time I was a street kid in 2007. So far no new observations I've made have conflicted with it. The observation I made back then was this: "98% of people are always warning you about how bad 98% of people are."
      It's all highly subjective, and people are just all disinclined to trust each other. But when it comes down to it, most people help each other out under most circumstances.

    • @theblandcharlie822
      @theblandcharlie822 4 роки тому +15

      tfw you realize that a healthy human's actions are their own fault

    • @LisaBeergutHolst
      @LisaBeergutHolst 4 роки тому +1

      @@theblandcharlie822 Nah, not really lol

    • @theblandcharlie822
      @theblandcharlie822 4 роки тому +4

      @@LisaBeergutHolst
      eh
      exceptions apply but I felt it necessary to say under this context

  • @fefeman2856
    @fefeman2856 4 роки тому +771

    Iirc, "Lord of the Flies" wasn't exactly about human nature, but about the behavior of childrens in boarding schools. And how, unlike what "Coral Island" said, those kids who were taught very colonialist and violent values would fight among themselves.

    • @rileykim6068
      @rileykim6068 4 роки тому +92

      It seemed like a human nature argument to me when I read it, but maybe yours was the intention. Whatever the case, it would still show you how normalized the Hobbsian view of humanity is just by virtue of so many assuming that's what it's saying.
      Edit: Not really important, but I'm pretty sure my teacher taught it as a story about human nature, so that might have been why I was so convinced.

    • @fefeman2856
      @fefeman2856 4 роки тому +70

      @@rileykim6068 Yeah, in the end the fact that peoples read it as human nature mean whatever the intent was is pointless.

    • @Lovelydeck
      @Lovelydeck 4 роки тому +110

      Especially when considering the fact that there are only young boys on the island, no girls. I think is shows that he wasn’t trying to make a statement about what society as a whole might do, just what already privileged, and cruel schoolboys would do. When asked why there are no young girls in the book the author even said that he didn’t feel qualified to write about how a girl might act, as he had never been a girl, and he especially didn’t want people to bring up the topic of sex.

    • @andrewcapra7153
      @andrewcapra7153 4 роки тому +168

      @@rileykim6068 Part of it is that Lord of the Flies was written primarily as a rebuttal to Coral Island, which based its premise on the idea that upper-class british boys, being of superior breeding and education, were superior to "savage races" and were thus more capable than them at forming a functioning society and thriving even in an outwardly hostile land. It was a sort of justification for colonialism, that the british were justified in oppressing natives in foreign lands due to their superior genetics and culture.
      Given that the author of Lord of the Flies had taught upper-class british schoolboys for a very long time, he naturally had severe issues with that premise.
      Read in isolation, Lord of the Flies of course looks like a Hobbesian critique of human nature. An unfortunate side effect of the book itself having far bigger of an impact on literature than the book that it was specifically a middle finger to.

    • @eclipserepeater2466
      @eclipserepeater2466 4 роки тому +21

      The version I read in school had a giant-ass foreword which pretty much said the book was about human nature while ranting about ego or something.

  • @Kat-qe1vk
    @Kat-qe1vk 4 роки тому +679

    As a Lord of The Flies stan I feel compelled to point out that William Golding wasn't trying to say anything negative about overall human nature but specifically about the nature of imperialist, white, upper-class male privilege. The boys are all very specifically from privileged upbringings and used to being able to have their needs met by and showcasing their power over those below them. Placed in an environment where there is no hierarchy to benefit them, they soon begin abusing the least privileged among them to try and reestablish one. His issue is with the rich, not human nature in general.

    • @OkamiRose
      @OkamiRose 4 роки тому +17

      @Miguel Pimentel bjebifewbewfbiubiucs White privilege still plays a part in those systems, though? But it might not be the focus for this one piece of media because of the homogenous race (or lack of other races) in the novel.

    • @timisontube
      @timisontube 3 роки тому +42

      Interesting. I’d never considered it that way - I would think the criticism is still relevant as the upper class whiteness is postured by many who read it as reflecting innate human nature. But this shifts the criticism from the author and intent (which is hard to genuinely ascertain) to the broad consensus of the public. If anything, it speaks to how deeply the system centers ruling identities as a story about upper class whites is taken as being about humanity itself.

    • @DeyvsonMoutinhoCaliman
      @DeyvsonMoutinhoCaliman 2 роки тому +3

      And why upper class people would behave that way, when they are used to a soft and easy life?

    • @lizardlegend42
      @lizardlegend42 2 роки тому +40

      Specifically, he was attempting to subvert a popular trend in children's literature at the where groups of well behaved children get stranded in untamed savage lands and through their ingenuity, cooperation and good proper upbringing as a civilized race bring order and civility to these lands before rescue.

    • @noahkarpinski1824
      @noahkarpinski1824 2 роки тому +24

      @@DeyvsonMoutinhoCaliman simple childish impotence
      When you're completely basing your worldview on thinking that it's natural and good for you to be pampered, it makes sense that you'd lash out when reality challenges you
      Then you have people like Jack or Roger who end up regaining their place of privilege by stepping over rhe people below them. And that's how hierarchies form

  • @tenfivesmiths7802
    @tenfivesmiths7802 4 роки тому +506

    So. I come from a fallen socialist country. When I was a kid we read this story for class called "the train in the snow" it details a train full of school children getting stuck in a massive blizzard on their way to a school trip and everybody down to their abilities pitching in to help this coal powered train to get to it's destination. it's grueling but the kids pull through. For a lot if us, working together to make something impossible happen is second nature. Mind you,I was about 8-9 when this lesson took place.

    • @HD-ct2un
      @HD-ct2un 4 роки тому +16

      Was the nation still socialist whenever they told that story?

    • @kohlscunty
      @kohlscunty 4 роки тому +102

      @vomittie op probably just means socialist as in eastern bloc, but lets be pedantic about someone elses home country why dont we.

    • @1997lordofdoom
      @1997lordofdoom 4 роки тому +51

      @vomittie The USSR was state Capitalist, that's how Leninism works, Lenin himself has stated it was State Capitalist.
      Dude, don't talk about thinks you are clearly clueless about. Your are just exposing yourself.

    • @CaptainZlex
      @CaptainZlex 4 роки тому +9

      If only more americans thought the same way.

    • @PancakemonsterFO4
      @PancakemonsterFO4 4 роки тому +11

      @@1997lordofdoom i doubt regular shoolchildren are "the state government" or "political officers" tho, if anyone could hold the values communist countries proposed it would be the ones educated under its values

  • @BigJoel
    @BigJoel 4 роки тому +2175

    nice video bruv

    • @comicsans2212
      @comicsans2212 4 роки тому +60

      large joel

    • @aaronlosey7201
      @aaronlosey7201 4 роки тому +39

      Jack Saint and Big Joel. I ship it

    • @__-wc5zn
      @__-wc5zn 4 роки тому +19

      it really is innit bruv?

    • @laurenhotchkiss2364
      @laurenhotchkiss2364 4 роки тому +22

      Idk why but I find it so awesome knowing people I love and listen to also listen to each other!
      Like omg we are all in the same cool club 🤩🥳

    • @furiousfemmeyazeth3362
      @furiousfemmeyazeth3362 4 роки тому +14

      Who would have thought, that my other favorite video essayist leftist UA-camr watches my favorite video essayist leftist UA-camr.

  • @mellawrence1119
    @mellawrence1119 4 роки тому +124

    "Order and chaos have always been a false dichotomy, asserted to demonize the 'bad violence' and authorize the 'good violence." absolutely bangs as a quote and I've never seen it expressed so well.

  • @Tordre
    @Tordre 4 роки тому +633

    I feel like your sponsor was a dare, either someone was dared in their marketing department, or Big Joel dared you to take the offer, or both.

    • @viking977
      @viking977 4 роки тому +107

      Manscape dared him up do it, and if he did he'd get money.

    • @mattpluzhnikov519
      @mattpluzhnikov519 4 роки тому +5

      I already forgot what his first pun was but remember that it was pretty good, the second one being blahblah funk/yadayada junk. So, making parts of the ad memorable IS doing something right.
      Although...I AM writing this comment with the video paused. Maybe I'd've completely forgot the ads if I could sit through such a long YT video...

    • @idsbraam
      @idsbraam 4 роки тому

      Well, it worked, I clicked the link to see if it was real.

    • @AceAttorny
      @AceAttorny 4 роки тому +6

      @@idsbraam Trimming your junk hairs? Yeah, that's a real thing, man.

  • @lulucool45
    @lulucool45 4 роки тому +302

    even years after coming to the realization that the selfish apocalypse is a fantasy and humanity is inherently kind, every time i hear about these real world examples i can't help but tear up.

    • @zombielizard218
      @zombielizard218 4 роки тому +22

      Well, that is something interesting I find. I think it's a true statement that the vast majority of people want to do good, however, morality is subjective.
      Someone wanting to do the "good" thing in their mind very well could mean genocide, so on the scale of a global societal collapse..... the minority of near objectively morally wrong people get their time to shine.

    • @qasimjebran2687
      @qasimjebran2687 4 роки тому +6

      Um so South Sudan and Libya exists
      The Rwandan genocide isnt even that old once you otherize people violence against them gets a bit justified

    • @BoxStudioExecutive
      @BoxStudioExecutive 4 роки тому +18

      The examples he gives at the beginning of the video have no relevance to what a post-apocalyptic society might turn into. If a localized disaster strikes, people know help is coming. They will work together to get through this "temporary" setback until the State arrives and helps to get everything back to normal. We have no real examples of what might happen if the State NEVER arrives because the localized disaster wasn't local, but global.
      Even if most humans in such a situation band together cooperatively it just takes a well-armed, hostile group (maybe influenced by media like Mad Max or Fallout) to turn everything to shit.
      Also, the closest we have is to a widespread disaster that dismantled the State was maybe in WW2 when the Nazis or the USSR invaded countries and began committing genocide. Sure, there were good people who did what they could to save lives but on the other hand, plenty willingly helped to kill innocent people so they could take their stuff.

    • @BoxStudioExecutive
      @BoxStudioExecutive 4 роки тому +3

      @Morphing Taxi The USSR invaded the Baltic States and began a process of committing genocide on their people. Deported their population to Siberia, and killed thousands, then began repopulating the Baltics with Russians. I don't see how you can qualify their actions as anything other than an attempted genocide

    • @missterry2540
      @missterry2540 4 роки тому +5

      @@BoxStudioExecutive i would also like a source

  • @MinutelyHipster
    @MinutelyHipster 4 роки тому +2076

    Aiming for the 10 minute mark to get that as revenue I see.

    • @blarg2429
      @blarg2429 4 роки тому +122

      @dftfujd dsrjdh Earning and subsequently spending ass revenue is hte only ethical consumption under capitalism.

    • @cheekybum1513
      @cheekybum1513 4 роки тому +2

      Wow. Original

    • @EggBastion
      @EggBastion 4 роки тому

      8

    • @blarg2429
      @blarg2429 4 роки тому +57

      @@cheekybum1513 Originality is overrated. I mean, look at you, using the internet like millions of other people, wearing clothes (hopefully) and living in a house of some kind like most humans in recorded history; such an unoriginal poseur, right? Bet you consume food and water to not die, too.

    • @helbent4
      @helbent4 4 роки тому +9

      @@blarg2429 DON'T JUDGE ME!

  • @Hifuutorian
    @Hifuutorian 4 роки тому +46

    Personally I always felt like Caesar knew full well that what he was practicing wasn't /really/ Hegelian Dialectics and that he was just trying to manipulate you into agreeing with/supporting him by prattling on about something smart and intellectual sounding in the way dictators are somewhat prone to doing.

  • @Meiliina
    @Meiliina 4 роки тому +266

    I love the juxtaposition on post-apocalyptic larps; first we build a town together and help each other get dressed in our best wastelander outfits, then shoot and rob each other as no one can trust each other, while still trying to make the best game for everyone.

  • @dyer4677
    @dyer4677 4 роки тому +283

    When you mentioned Borderlands it actually made me think for a second. While Pandora mimics the aesthetics of the traditional apocalypse the reasoning for why the world is so violent and unhinged is actually contrary to the Hobbesian idea that people are inherently selfish and savage.
    Pandora is a lawless wasteland BECAUSE of authorities like the Mega Corporations of Dahl, Hyperion, and Atlas. That their short sited profit seeking would cause them to abandon countless civilians, soldiers, employee's, and enforced laborers many of which were former criminals or mentally unwell the moment their venture became unprofitable. That these people would not only have to fend for themselves against not just the violent nature of the planet but the massive power vacuums, abundance of weapons, and toxic material that made the planet the perfect tinder box of a shit show. Not to mention how the super corps would continue to profit from the violence on Pandora by feeding the population more and more weapons but invasions such as the one from Atlas in BL1 and Hyperion in BL2 would only kick the hornets nest demolishing any manner of stability the planet had developed.
    Even in BL3 it's mentioned that the Cult of the Vault, the main bandit faction you fight against, draws it's numbers from the countless broken worlds like Pandora across the galaxy. That the Mega Corps are solely responsible for the creation of this toxic environment and as the game itself puts it, countless "human wreckage" that are the mentally unwell, physically scarred, and abandoned populations of bandits in the universe.
    It always bothered me how Borderlands while being known best as the "funny meme looter game" it has the potential for some really good themes but it just never goes far enough to reach it and it's frustrating to no end but hey I guess I'd rather have a hypothetically interesting story at the end of the day.

    • @steve7745
      @steve7745 4 роки тому +36

      Thank you for bringing this up, as a huge fan of the series it brings me joy that these stories are being told but it also scares me in that borderlands isn't even that far as a realistic extreme of a post-capitalist society, where there is no longer even regulation to stop the megacorporations from puppeteering the average individual. Even the 'enemies' in the series are abandoned corporate slaves left to band together and kill in the atruggle for survival that is life on Pandora. I sometimes feel bad thinking about that while I'm playing, the fact that most of these 'savage bandits' I'm killing were once just people, forced to work on distant colonies for the profit of manipulative CEOs like Jack, while I come in as a treasure hunter entirely disregarding the situation of the place I'm coming to loot. It's worrying to think that the hellscape these games depicts isn't too far from possible, and I think we really need to consider media like this more when looking at the path of our society. Even 'funny shooter haha' games can provide much needed foresight

    • @merchskele7507
      @merchskele7507 4 роки тому +9

      well hot damn Imma comment on this to make sure that I have this 2 comments saved..in a way does anyone know how to save youtube comments in a better way as dammit I enjoyed reading both the comments. And well they are good comments to keep as it will keep me thinking.

    • @rumpelstilzz
      @rumpelstilzz 4 роки тому +7

      Just what I thought when he mentioned Borderlands

    • @thewizard1
      @thewizard1 2 роки тому +1

      More proof that borderlands is the greatest series in existence.

  • @Cosplaybuddygiraffes
    @Cosplaybuddygiraffes 4 роки тому +394

    This video made me remember Train to Busan (EXCELLENT zombie film btw), and how the main characters and some people of the group are compassionate and wish to help each other. The big burly dad man actually lets himself DIE in order to let a stranger and his daughter get out safely, his now widowed wife eventually adopting the daughter out of a genuine desire to make sure she’s safe.
    But there is self-interested hateful group mentality: It’s only when the big successful CEO gets annoyed that he’s inconvenienced and tries to sacrifice people, even betraying them, that he rallies others to become as self-serving as him.

    • @sweetpeabee4983
      @sweetpeabee4983 4 роки тому +77

      Well, imo boiling the CEO down to "annoyed because inconvenienced", while fair, is a little reductive. The CEO is himself really scared & wants to run home to his mommy. The problem is that he selfishly considers his desire to make sure his mum is okay more important than anyone else's desires to check in on their loved ones or, uh, not die lol. His inability to recognize the humanity of other people & to see it as valuable/of equal weight to his own is what makes him the true monster of the film.

    • @AbstractTraitorHero
      @AbstractTraitorHero 4 роки тому +68

      @@sweetpeabee4983 And how capitalism and class warfare dehumanize us towards our fellow man

    • @AbstractTraitorHero
      @AbstractTraitorHero 4 роки тому +12

      @Rev Oendetta You about to go into that whole human nature bullshit argument?

    • @AbstractTraitorHero
      @AbstractTraitorHero 4 роки тому +1

      @Rev Oendetta ?

    • @AbstractTraitorHero
      @AbstractTraitorHero 4 роки тому +17

      @Rev Oendetta It evolved out of mercantilism and became an idea during the industrial revolution due to the mercantile classes accumulation of wealth, an increase in humanism and many other socio-economic factors as well as the rise of the state.
      Hobbinsion thought was highly influnential and capitalism started to gain traction from desire for social mobility and many many other factors.
      Capitalism was not the prevailing system throughout human history, noir even a thought for a long long time with nobels and only the mercantile class holding real wealth
      Or people living together and exchanging things between each other freely in gift economies or barter economy's and much more.
      Needless to say, if you thought humans were doing capitalism back in the stone age your the definition of wrong, it is incredibly recent in the ways we would recognize it.

  • @RobotProductions09
    @RobotProductions09 4 роки тому +568

    "the lord of the flies" was a subversion of "the coral island", an imperialist (and racist) story. lotf was written more to expose the arrogance of the british high class as a destructive behavior. sorry it's just irritating to me that no one seems to add this context when they want to criticize lotf; i think it's important to mention that although it was about "human nature" it was more specifically about imperialist behavior. anyway have a good day jack

    • @danielcox7629
      @danielcox7629 4 роки тому +37

      Also 20 grade school city kids who don't know how to survive at a basic level vs 6 teens who know how to grow a garden.

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean 4 роки тому +32

      The problem with such an allegory is that if you use something that exists/could exist in the real world as an analogy for something else, your story can easily sound like it's about the thing it's literally about and not the thing it's actually about. Especially once the work is removed from its original cultural context.

    • @Primalstrawberry
      @Primalstrawberry 4 роки тому +17

      I thought it was about the masculinity of young boys and how they treat each other, but imperialism also makes sense

    • @RobotProductions09
      @RobotProductions09 4 роки тому +24

      @@Primalstrawberry a bit of both. i think Golding said lotf wouldn't work the same if the genders were switched

    • @mizjulio
      @mizjulio 4 роки тому +21

      I think this a great intentional context and I love that. But I was taught this book as if it was about human nature at 15, and it messed me up a lot, lol.

  • @Amazatastic
    @Amazatastic 4 роки тому +343

    just wanna mention the Netflix show "the society" it's a teen drama inspired by Lord of the flies but instead of them being nasty to each other the teens band together and share resources and the main antagonists of the series are a rich boy who is mad that he no longer had the "status" he used to and is forced to SHARE what he has and like, a fascist. I haven't really seen anyone talking about it tho.

    • @kaiathompson4043
      @kaiathompson4043 4 роки тому +7

      YES!!! i love that show and i wonder why noonee ever chucks it in!!!

    • @erikruder3360
      @erikruder3360 4 роки тому +15

      The thing to remember about Lord of the Flies is that none of the boys were out of their early teens, some were very young and are divided right from the beginning of the book. A communal structure is formed but collapses not because of any inherent human nature, but because of the unpreparedness of the proper English schoolboy (or, by proxy, any self-confident "civilised" person) in a situation of sudden chaos and lack of control, and the snowball effect it can have on a group psyche. Consider the fact that by the second act, the boys had failed to signal a ship, accidentally caused the death of a child and set part of the jungle alight; and that the situation was created in the first place when they were evacuated during a cold war escalation. It's a worst-case scenario, but incredibly convincing in the way it's written and plotted and has (I think) unmatched insight into the behaviour and thought of schoolboys and forced group isolation.

    • @a.z7469
      @a.z7469 4 роки тому +21

      @@erikruder3360 Lord of the Flies was meant to be a parody on the British upperclasses and their views in the 50's. Widely on colorism, the kids were not devolving, they were choosing to behave in an "uncivilized" manner as an excuse to be cruel.

    • @metaljugger
      @metaljugger 4 роки тому

      That would be a really good piece of socialist propaganda. You should take that to China, and not return.
      Edit: A moron later in the comment thread insists that because China is actually a Communist state, their ties with socialism are somehow irrelevant. I suppose I can't fault idiots for not understanding what *Propaganda* is or even that China describes themselves as a "People's Republic" as outlined by socialist theory. That distortion of political reality is what makes it propaganda, China quite regularly partakes socialist messaging.

    • @a.z7469
      @a.z7469 4 роки тому +19

      @@metaljugger Hey look everybody! This guy thinks China's a Socialist Republic! So VeRy EnLiGhTeNeD, LeTs alL cLaP FoR ThE BiGgEsT BrIaN.

  • @WraithMagus
    @WraithMagus 4 роки тому +264

    The big irony here is I just watched Mother's Basement's "Japan Sinks is Awesome, Actually" video, which talks about how Japan Sinks is great for bucking the trend of Mad Max-style nihilistic loner survivors by showing a disaster where most of the people come together in adversity, while at the same time, death comes completely out of the blue to the people who are arguably the best survivalists for no reason other than bad luck. Apparently, a lot of people hate the show because it doesn't engage in the morality play tropes of the greedy survivalist dying or people going straight for the "Leathers and Feathers".

    • @xBINARYGODx
      @xBINARYGODx 4 роки тому +10

      Your first grave mistake was watching anything created by Mr. Basement. Also, not sure that is irony.

    • @Kermthefrog
      @Kermthefrog 4 роки тому +25

      @@xBINARYGODx ok

    • @raze_
      @raze_ 4 роки тому +6

      A lot of complaints i saw mostly came from holy fuck are so many of the characters annoying and stupid. The only tolerable characters barely speak. Also the fact it was essentially an ad for the tokyo Olympics.

    • @WraithMagus
      @WraithMagus 4 роки тому +54

      @@raze_
      The "ad for the Tokyo Olympics" part was one of the things discussed in the video. He was saying the non-Japanese people getting on reddit saying that are missing that this is a show aimed at the Japanese, and to a Japanese person, the end credits are showing all the things that would be lost, not just hyping Japan to the Japanese.
      The part about characters that use English interchangeably with Japanese is also discussed because the whole show comes down pretty hard against some of the xenophobic tendencies of Japan. The fact that Go is half-Filipino and sprinkles English into his speech explicitly gets the group left to die by the ultra-nationalists at one point. So yeah, their speech may be cringe, but it's there for important plot reasons. When characters exist to represent different strata of society, the fact that they don't act the way you want them to isn't really a flaw in the story.

    • @DataCass
      @DataCass 4 роки тому +10

      Im glad someone mentioned this! After watching MB’s vid and the anime I came back to this vid scrolled through the comments specifically to see if anyone else was talking about this! xD

  • @Donnerbalken28
    @Donnerbalken28 4 роки тому +1108

    "Let's talk about Hegel"
    *continues to crawl into the fetal position and mumble something about dialectics*

    • @AnonYmous-bb7tl
      @AnonYmous-bb7tl 4 роки тому +98

      "Let's talk about Hegel"
      *waits 30 minutes for Jack to talk about New Vegas*

    • @kseriousr
      @kseriousr 4 роки тому +27

      @@AnonYmous-bb7tl Can't complain. The best payoff needs the best setup.

    • @feistygheisty
      @feistygheisty 4 роки тому +16

      At least we're not talking about Stephen Pinker anymore lmao.

    • @greatandmightykevin
      @greatandmightykevin 4 роки тому +11

      It's hegelian dialectics, not personal animosity

    • @elle_rose_xx
      @elle_rose_xx 3 дні тому

      Me at uni for real

  • @josephsdsu1
    @josephsdsu1 4 роки тому +211

    The quotation at 56:02: "It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism" is a paraphrase of Fredric Jameson's famous assertion, “It seems to be easier for us today to imagine the thoroughgoing deterioration of the earth and of nature than the breakdown of late capitalism; perhaps that is due to some weakness in our imaginations,” which appears in his book The Seeds of Time (1992). The simplified version comes from Slavoj Žižek, who punches it up, admittedly, while losing some of its intellectual heft. Hashtag Department of Credit where Credit Is Due.

  • @aramilrogue
    @aramilrogue 4 роки тому +23

    "When war is between USA fanboys, Ancient Rome fanboys, and Elon Musk, I understand where they're coming from" is the best line. My ribs are still fucking hurting

  • @HCSAgirl99
    @HCSAgirl99 4 роки тому +25

    "There is no beginning and end, only a series on transitory states" that quote hit me in the heart for some reason. thanks for the great video!

  • @TheCountOfMommysCrisco
    @TheCountOfMommysCrisco 4 роки тому +520

    This is why Conservative thought is often said to be founded in fear and insecurity - It's entirely based in a Hobbsian view that creates an inherent distrust in humankind and rejects the concept of mutual benefit.

    • @TheCountOfMommysCrisco
      @TheCountOfMommysCrisco 4 роки тому +56

      @split haven Hey buddy:
      "But take away our rules and societal and cultural norms"
      None of your examples are in any way related to this. Everything you followed-up with was a cultural norm of its time, and state-enforced rules to keep it that way.
      Congratulations on being part of the problem by continuing to grasp onto your baseless cynicism. Now, go try to balance it by watching medical professionals and community members supporting those in need during this pandemic, each and every one proving you wrong by demonstrating their own 'cultural norms'.

    • @JackSmith-qp9nh
      @JackSmith-qp9nh 4 роки тому +5

      @@TheCountOfMommysCrisco What about the French Revolution? Neither the cultural norm or state enforced.

    • @semi-useful5178
      @semi-useful5178 4 роки тому

      I am a Paranoid bastard, but you don't live to die surrounded by friends and family without sleeping with a gun in easy reach. and your neighbors happy for your help.

    • @cptndunsel2670
      @cptndunsel2670 4 роки тому +5

      Except Anthropological studies of how early man lived and behaved paints a picture of a world that much more closely resembles Hobbes's version of the 'state of nature' than that of Locke.

    • @danielcox7629
      @danielcox7629 4 роки тому +2

      Because chaze was a great place to live, ruled only by human nature.

  • @i_a_r_n_a
    @i_a_r_n_a 4 роки тому +46

    There's another type maybe, the melancholic apocalypse, but I can only actually think of one example: Yokohama Kaidashi Kikō. Which is a story in a post-ecological collapse world. It's very much a "the time of humanity has ended" type of vibe, but rather than people violently fighting against it, there's acceptance. There are a lot of little clues that there was a period of trying to technology-our-way out of it, but it didn't work and that time has passed and there is acceptance.

    • @emilchan5379
      @emilchan5379 4 роки тому +15

      Girls' Last Tour and Humanity Has Declined are perhaps two other examples in which there is/was an apocalypse but everyone is pretty chill about it.
      Sora no Woto could count too I guess as although it is implied that humanity is in real danger of going extinct due to wars over dwindling resources, the characters don't let it affect them too much.

    • @maxw.2579
      @maxw.2579 4 роки тому +12

      Its a plot point in a sea of many other ones but Disco Elysium has a climate change analogue that results in acceptance in the few characters that acknowledge it as well. Its not of huge relevance in the proper plot but it adds a level of coming to terms with catastrophes and the resulting loss and grief from personal to societal to global.

    • @i_a_r_n_a
      @i_a_r_n_a 4 роки тому +3

      @@maxw.2579 I really need to play that game...

    • @RoyalFusilier
      @RoyalFusilier 11 місяців тому

      A more recent example to add to the pile is Refind Self, the personality test game with robots who are in, shall we say, something of a Nier Automata situation, but there's a lot less fighting. Not zero, but a lot less, and way more melancholoy and focus on 'who you are' versus 'doing something'.

  • @keerywindle1932
    @keerywindle1932 4 роки тому +221

    Ok but those teenagers that got stranded and cared for their friend was wholesome

    • @SunnyGoesIn1D
      @SunnyGoesIn1D 4 роки тому +17

      unless I’m mistaken, the splint they made for his leg when it got broken/injured was so good he healed better/faster than he would have at the time getting actual medical help. people are awesome and so are those kids.

    • @ILikedGooglePlus
      @ILikedGooglePlus 2 роки тому +1

      Factos 👍
      (Paraphrased) "We'll do your work, and you can lie here relaxing like a king"

  • @Coolguy98765
    @Coolguy98765 4 роки тому +86

    One more thing about Gurren Lagann and Rosiu: after Simon defeats the Anti-Spirals, he goes into a self-imposed exile and leaves Rosiu in charge. Rosiu goes on to make peace with all the other races in the universe and the implication is that this is what will prevent the Spiral Nemesis from occurring. Simon's hard-headedness was needed to cast of the chains of authority, but Rosiu's restraint was what was needed to build the world that came after.

    • @mattheusfinco7050
      @mattheusfinco7050 4 роки тому +11

      exactly , thats what i missed in this video

    • @getschwifty5537
      @getschwifty5537 4 роки тому +24

      Yep, I think this was the show's way to reconcile with its own premise of there being an inherent danger to unchecked ambition and expansion. Kamina's belief to always reach for the heavens no matter what was a thesis, the stifling of life that the anti-Spirals believed to be necessary was antithesis, and Simon and Rosiu simply knowing when to stop unchecked expansion after defeating the anti-spiral's overreaction to spiral lifeforms was the synthesis.
      I also feel like the opening where "all the lights in the heaven are our enemy now" is like the bad ending AU where Simon never stops fighting and keeps trying to expand humanity to the point of total destruction that the Anti-Spirals feared.

    • @chernobylhobo7793
      @chernobylhobo7793 3 роки тому +6

      I agree with your point and I wish that Jack had brought it up. He tries to compare Gurren to World Without End and how that film comes off as a manifest destiny justification of killing those they deem savage, but in Gurren Lagann some of the villains of the surface that they defeated ultimately join them in their fight with the anti-spiral and the whole reason they originally kept humanity restricted was out of fear of the spiral nemesis and the anti-spiral threatening their existence if they grew too big. The anti-spirals themselves are essentially cosmic eco fascists. They are united in the belief that life is a danger to the balance of nature and needs to be strictly controlled and have completely sacrificed their own individuality to that end. Team Dai Gurren represents a belief in people that they can change things for the better without needing to sacrifice one's freedom and individuality. And in the end he leaves things in the hands of Rossiu to help reform society. I think Jack just sort of plainly attaching the concept of manifest destiny onto Gurren Lagann without elaborating and analyzing it more was a mistake.

    • @Bighomie39
      @Bighomie39 3 роки тому +4

      @@getschwifty5537 I always thought the opening was basically the original way the Anti-Spiral fight was supposed to appear, with all of the "lights" representing the Anti-Spiral fleet

  • @ILikedGooglePlus
    @ILikedGooglePlus 4 роки тому +186

    "Talk about Fallout! Talk about Fallout! Talk about Fallout!"
    --- Me, for the entire first half of this video

  • @cypressbartlett9083
    @cypressbartlett9083 4 роки тому +57

    Hot take: Fallout 3, Mad Max, The Mist ect. Are 'Apocolyptic' tales, where the larger society is still within the 'apocolypse' and living through the primary trials and dilemmas of 'the event'.
    Whereas Fallout NV/1/2, Blade Runner, Logans Run, Judge Dredd ect. Are post-apocalyptic, where the larger and mesium societies have been created with aspects and ideologies of the pre-apocolypse, integrated with the lessons of the apocolypse and managed by a larger and more defined authority.

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean 4 роки тому +8

      The way most people use the term, an "apocalypse" is defined as a singular event rather than a process. Even if the society doesn't completely collapse for some time thereafter, there _must_ be a singular point in time pinpointed as _the_ apocalypse, because that's how people define it (and how people instinctively understand history in general).
      Fallout 3, Mad Max, The Mist, etc take place while society falls apart, but after "the apocalyptic moment"; they are "post-apocalyptic".
      I like to call stories about the societies which rise after the apocalyptic process "post-post-apocalyptic". You mentioned some, but I'd like to also mention The Last of Us (which you've likely heard of) and _Ward_ (the sequel to Wildbow's web novel _Worm,_ which is obviously difficult to discuss without spoilers for one or both novels).

    • @Benbeasted
      @Benbeasted 4 роки тому +7

      Fallout 3 is considered post-apocalyptic, the direct aftermath and chaos of the end of the world. The apocalypse being the nuclear war itself.
      1/2/NV are considered post-post-apocalyptic. The chaos has largely subsided and society is becoming a facsimile of what it once was.

  • @andrewwestfall65
    @andrewwestfall65 4 роки тому +183

    Rossiue isn't able to alter reality at will like those around him, he lacks individual power despite having state-granted power. This could have many different interpretations but to me, he represents someone chained by the status quo that wishes to change it. Unlike most of the other main characters, Rossiue isn't able to do the impossible. However, he still wishes to improve the situation utilizing only the possible. His fault then is that he is working within the definitions and rules of someone else. He's rebelling, but only in the predicted and allowed ways

    • @DarkHunter047
      @DarkHunter047 4 роки тому +45

      An interisting fact to note, is that Simon recognises that Rossiue way of thinking is valuable (just after stoping him from kiling himself, i believe). Like, you cannot always be in revolution because your drill would break eventually, you have to stop to cool down from time to time.

    • @Horatio787
      @Horatio787 4 роки тому +22

      @@DarkHunter047 Fight the power is step 1 and not the entire argument, which is why revolutions tend to mess up and just put the same kind of oppressors in power.

    • @DarkHunter047
      @DarkHunter047 4 роки тому +2

      @@Horatio787 Yeah, i know.

    • @andrewwestfall65
      @andrewwestfall65 4 роки тому +15

      @@DarkHunter047 Not going to lie, despite saying that the constant rebellion was a key piece of the story for years, I never realized the dual meaning of revolution in this context.

    • @andrewwestfall65
      @andrewwestfall65 4 роки тому +14

      @Spectator 101 I agree, I don't think you can blame Rossiu for not trying to overpower a god. It's a tricky situation as from Rossiu's perspective Simon and the gang are at fault for earning the Anti-spiral wrath through negligence, so it even makes sense that he doesn't then trust them to solve the problem.

  • @edgarroberts8740
    @edgarroberts8740 4 роки тому +19

    You know, I've watched this multiple times now, and I really think it might just be your opus. There aren't many other video essayists out there who can make something this grand, ambitious, and profoundly insightful. Keep up the good work, big brain take man!

  • @EkkieEkk
    @EkkieEkk 4 роки тому +172

    The ncr still allows and even facilitates slavery, in fallout 2 there was a slave pen right outside the capital city and in new vegas theres the NCRCF, which uses prison labor to build infrastructure which is slavery.

    • @ill232
      @ill232 4 роки тому +37

      The NCR rangers ask you to wipe out the slave pen though, I think they werent taking more direct action because they were trying to convince vault city and other small settlements to assimilate and lacked the strenght to impose their will.

    • @EkkieEkk
      @EkkieEkk 4 роки тому +16

      @@ill232 the rangers werent in control of policy and at the time was an independant organization. They might have outlawed it now (I'm not sure if its explicitly stated that they have) but they still facilitate it through prison labor.

    • @yeetleslaw8529
      @yeetleslaw8529 4 роки тому +16

      Yeah, they're still the best option in the game. They're the closest thing to a stable society.
      Also, We have prison slavery right now. Which is horrible, but the NCR had the excuse of the literal fallout.
      So yeah, they have their problems. But the other option is ceaser and the murder robot.

    • @freekashyyyk896
      @freekashyyyk896 4 роки тому +38

      Yeetles Law Yeetles Law the free wheeling fourth choice in which you can reject house, the ncr, and the legion and create an independent new vegas whose circumstances and effects are informed by the player choices made throughout the game is very clearly the best option, which was intended by the developers. Also “slavery is justified if its a post nuclear apocalypse” is really fucking cringe. The whole point of being anti-slavery is rejecting all proposed justifications for its practice, fictional or non-fictional. If your argument is that there are sometimes scenarios where slavery is good actually means you are pro slavery. It makes me sus of your “prison slavery is horrible” comment, because you clearly dont believe that wholeheartedly.

    • @krombopulos_michael
      @krombopulos_michael 4 роки тому +4

      I guess, but only using a broader definition of slavery than most people understand the word to mean, since most people associate the word specifically with chattel slavery. Prison labour CAN also be voluntary, in which case it is not slavery, although I haven't played FNV so I don't know how it portrays the prison labour in that world.

  • @milkbunny8844
    @milkbunny8844 4 роки тому +765

    Calling House "Elon Musk" is highly offensive to House

    • @DavidMyrmidon
      @DavidMyrmidon 4 роки тому +152

      At least House created his own shit.

    • @blarg2429
      @blarg2429 4 роки тому +80

      House is a fictional character with no thoughts or feelings; he has no honor for you to defend, because he is merely an idea. Moreover, Musk is probably the closest thing to House that's actually possible.
      House is a man of special ideas who can theoretically fix the unfixable with the help of the extreme wealth he got by being cool and smart; Elon Musk is a normal human like the rest of us whose job it is to pretend to fit the above description, but the key detail is that every possible human in every possible scenario also falls short of the whole Great Man notion that House is an example of. If Edwin House were a real man, he'd be as pathetic as Elon Musk, I promise you.

    • @aaron552au
      @aaron552au 4 роки тому +32

      @@blarg2429 Considering what House *actually* looks like, I don't think that he's any less pathetic than Musk.

    • @camycamera
      @camycamera 4 роки тому +44

      Let's be real here, Musk would've sided with House.

    • @Invizive
      @Invizive 4 роки тому +49

      @@aaron552au using physical weakness and appearance of a body as an argument against his character is one of the most bigoted approaches you could take.

  • @BREADSWORD
    @BREADSWORD 4 роки тому +218

    LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @georgia-qy9ve
    @georgia-qy9ve 4 роки тому +129

    "the legions ideology, as outlined by its leader, is explicitly stated to be based" -Jack Saint

  • @SlaughterHouseEducation
    @SlaughterHouseEducation 4 роки тому +1006

    As someone living in Minneapolis, participating in the uprising after George Floyd, this "the worst of humanity will be exposed" line of thinking seems like a naive, schoolboy fantasy. That's not what happens, at least not in what I've seen. I've seen mutual aid and hope and the community coming together. It also bothers me that these mob violence scenes never fully show the turn. Anyone who has been in a crowd that has gone from relatively peaceful to destructive understands that turn, it's a visceral thing that everyone can feel, time slows down, senses get heightened.
    Just as an example, when the police first started throwing tear gas and flashbangs at the 3rd precinct, the action of them doing that couldn't have been longer than a few minutes, tops, but it felt like it took forever to register we were being attacked and the emotion/vibe of the crowd turned drastically. The I'm not gonna take this shit anymore valve gets turned on for everyone all at once and it's an explosion of hurt and pain and rage. No one was telling anyone what to do, people would ask for help with stuff if they needed it - water for teargas, help lifting things, medical attention, but no one was in charge. I think if anyone would have attempted to take control of other people they would have been laughed off/not listened to. When you are in that situation, you have your power back, there's no reason to give it away.

    • @dccalling5960
      @dccalling5960 4 роки тому +172

      I agree. At no point during the protests were we a danger to each other, and despite the general rage and pain in the crowd, we were very targeted in our efforts. We were helping each other, not tearing each other down. Like you said, there wasn't leadership so much as unity of purpose.

    • @saphiralucifera2366
      @saphiralucifera2366 4 роки тому +28

      Screenshoting this for posterity

    • @goodluckgorsky3413
      @goodluckgorsky3413 4 роки тому +104

      Exactly, the people with privilege and are AGAINST the protests seem to be showing their worst humanity

    • @LexYeen
      @LexYeen 4 роки тому +84

      Anarchy is only scary to bullies and abusers.

    • @SlaughterHouseEducation
      @SlaughterHouseEducation 4 роки тому +60

      @@dccalling5960 Right, unity of purpose, exactly. Lots of people were doing different things, but it all was for a common goal, everyone just did what they could. Almost like we are all adults who don't need a giant authority figure to get shit done and not hurt each other. I certainly never felt like I was unsafe because of anyone in the crowd, the only danger was the police.

  • @LautaroArgentino
    @LautaroArgentino 4 роки тому +118

    Hey, Jack.
    I know you probably aren't familiar with it but I'd like to hear your take on "The Eternaut" it's an Argentine comic, really influential in Latin America. It depicts a group of heroes dealing with a sudden alien invasion in Buenos Aires. Which is often analysed as a metaphor for the coups in Latin America and Argentina during that time period, as well as imperialism, colonialism, and capitalism.
    The author was a leftist and was forcefully disappeared during the country's last dictatorship in 1977.

    • @Dorian_sapiens
      @Dorian_sapiens 4 роки тому +6

      That sounds really interesting. I hope Jack takes this suggestion!

    • @SuperMetalmeltdown
      @SuperMetalmeltdown 4 роки тому +10

      I would suggest also to take on the follow-up novel... which was sadly never finished as Oesterheld was "disappeared" before he could.
      It's a fantastic work of science fiction, and even someone like me who doesn't care about any form of nationalism, can feel a tinge of pride knowing he was from this land (And a heavy load of shame for what happened to him)

    • @roseconleey103
      @roseconleey103 4 роки тому +5

      would love to see his take on that - also, thank you for reminding me that it exists lol!

  • @dabwiso784
    @dabwiso784 4 роки тому +97

    When I heard Noah Gervais I was that pic of Leo pointing.
    Appropriate to get him to voice a part about westerns.

    • @yeetleslaw8529
      @yeetleslaw8529 4 роки тому +11

      I love these crossovers.

    • @ashsoforenko3952
      @ashsoforenko3952 4 роки тому +15

      I couldn't have imagined a better creator to read that line. I could practically see the road cam

    • @About37Hobos
      @About37Hobos 4 роки тому +12

      When I heard him I’m I gasped so loud my brother in the next room asked what happened.

    • @michimatsch5862
      @michimatsch5862 4 роки тому +3

      Wizard Michael i was doing martial arts and I almost ended up flying through the room because I was doing a kick and just completely lost focus.

  • @noneofyourbusiness4616
    @noneofyourbusiness4616 4 роки тому +28

    "you've probably noticed I haven't talked about Fallout 3 and 4" -- I was more focused on the lack of discussion of 1 and 2

  • @catsthemovie4692
    @catsthemovie4692 4 роки тому +42

    An hour of Jack...yes please. *1 hr 10 min later* children of men is one of my favorite post apocalypse & dystopian movies. Its themes reflect so much of our current realty. And yes a full video of mad max fury road would be appreciated

  • @xRaiofSunshine
    @xRaiofSunshine 4 роки тому +162

    It seems awfully convenient that a choice between cut throat lawlessness and the state in these apocalyptic stories sure seems to benefit the state 🤔 By not recognizing that people are far more compassionate and helpful in times of crisis, you don’t have to recognize that there’s more compassionate options for the state to use and *should* be using to help the people they’re supposed to represent.

  • @katsmith-riply9862
    @katsmith-riply9862 4 роки тому +80

    Jack, apparently the director meant for The Mist to be released in Black and White. The producers decided to release it in color because they were worried that audiences can’t understand black and white films apparently. it’s much more atmospheric, and creepy. the effects look better too ha

    • @danieldyson1660
      @danieldyson1660 4 роки тому +14

      Didn't Darabont make the Mist to be a satire of 50s sci fi films that were just propaganda in a thinly veiled disguise? Hence why he wished for it to be in black and white.

    • @katsmith-riply9862
      @katsmith-riply9862 4 роки тому +5

      Daniel Dyson haha yeah they just talked about it on a Sardonicast episode it was really interesting

    • @Invizive
      @Invizive 4 роки тому +10

      So "masses don't know better" rhetoric was used in production too, ironic

    • @aseriousliability
      @aseriousliability 4 роки тому +1

      If it helps, the blu ray has the black and white version on a separate disc!

  • @jtillman8251
    @jtillman8251 4 роки тому +45

    I agree wholeheartedly with the idea that apocalyptic depictions of people turning into self interested psychopaths devoid of empathy or cooperation is unrealistic and overdone. I've been griping about the walking dead for this very reason for years... That said I don't think the comparison between a blizzard and a situation like that in The Mist is a very apt one. A hard and rapid breakdown of all signs of a greater social order with no idea of scope in terms of time or geography with a seemingly implacable potentially supernatural threat is very different from that of a temporary and well understood setback in societal functioning like that of a blizzard. People understand a blizzard... They understand it will eventually end, and that it hasn't erased all of civilization. They understand what they need to do to survive one. They also understand that they'll likely be held culpable for their behavior after things return to normal. I don't think anyone alive today knows what happens when there's no "normal" to return to.

    • @SadisticSenpai61
      @SadisticSenpai61 Рік тому +4

      Given humans are social animals and our survival strategy has been to live in groups for longer than we have been human... Nah, social cooperation in times of need are instinctual. Will some groups be more prone to attacking other groups? Definitely - especially if there's a lack of resources and another group nearby with resources. But they'll still be banding together in groups in the first place and relying on other members of the group for their own survival.
      Notably, chimpanzees will band together and attack other nearby groups of chimpanzees if there's a lack of resources in the area and the other group's territory has food. Chimps will also hunt and eat meat from time to time.
      And there's also the example of early settlers on the US Prairie. They banded together and helped each other out when there were wildfires and tornadoes. There wasn't much in the way of government support or law enforcement in the area at the time. Granted, they limited that help to other white ppl, but that's more of the in-group vs out-group behavior that I would expect to see in such a scenario - especially in that era.

  • @Minihood31770
    @Minihood31770 4 роки тому +383

    What does it say about masculinity that we can't take below the belt grooming seriously unless we buy "The Lawnmower"
    I'm sorry but that name is so "MAN" that I can't help but laugh.

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen 4 роки тому +81

      Like gendered deodorant brands, right? That shit is endlessly funny to me.

    • @distaffpope2603
      @distaffpope2603 4 роки тому +44

      Sounded like he was also trying not to laugh too

    • @barkasz6066
      @barkasz6066 4 роки тому +45

      It’s so pathetic. I honestly feel so embarrassed when companies do this shit. It’s so juvenile. I feel like I’m being treated as some idiotic child who must play pretend soldier in order to do anything, rather than an adult.

    • @atomicdreamz6035
      @atomicdreamz6035 4 роки тому +28

      What else were they gonna call it? The Nutshaver 9000? The Dickgroomer 3.0? The Splendiferous Spunkbag Snipper??

    • @MrPiccoloku
      @MrPiccoloku 4 роки тому +9

      Honestly, I was a weird super-smart nerdy kit growing up who learned about all the historical and systemic bullshit behind our view of gender when I was like 9 (Having some trouble remembering because of basically fugue because I had a really fucked-up childhood) and I was caught off-guard by that. I had a reaction that I can best describe as "I knew it was this bad and that shit like this is inevitable on a purely cognitive level, but then again, on a purely cognitive level, I know that race is also bullshit, but that doesn't mean that I don't get all weird when I hear about nonwhite/Jewish things for too long from when I was a weird nazbol shut-in".

  • @FiveTrenchcoats
    @FiveTrenchcoats 4 роки тому +20

    So as it turns out humans tend to help each other when the going gets rough, like leaving a comment on a fantastically written and performed video essay to boost engagement!
    This video honestly left me wanting an analysis of how different films portray the future as a concept, whether that's post-apocalyptic or not. It could be nice to have a comparison between portrayals of what could be defined as two opposite ways in which society could undergo massive change.

  • @goldstarsupreme
    @goldstarsupreme 4 роки тому +132

    I'm curious as to your opinions of Adventure Time and Nier as a post-apocalypse (and Nier Automata as post-post-apocalypse)

    • @dvillines26
      @dvillines26 4 роки тому +32

      Nier Automata would fit right in, in particular, as like....basically everything talked about here. in particular the recapitulation of the Old World. the robots mimicking aspects of humanity without understanding, and the androids honestly not being much better. the robots recreate monarchy, religious extremism, hedonism, and more.

    • @koboldcatgirl
      @koboldcatgirl 4 роки тому +8

      Adventure Time has a whole arc about humans inhabiting a bubble society rather than risking the radical perils of the post-post-post-post-post apocalypse. I think it fits!

    • @greenhowie
      @greenhowie 4 роки тому +6

      Adventure time is an interesting one... in the wider scope of things, humans were just a short-lived species that caused natural magic to be suppressed, so in a way the apocalypse was actually restoring some sort of balance (in spite of the obvious structural damage)

  • @rollinnollin546
    @rollinnollin546 4 роки тому +21

    About OTHER apocalyptic media... Banner Saga? Lots of interesting ideas there: Apocalypse occurring in an already post apocalyptic society, the literal death of gods as an authority for people to put faith in, the unpreparedness of leaders in replacing those gods as beacons of faith, apocalypse imagined as a communal struggle rather than an individualist one, the struggle to juggle morality with material needs, immigration politics, a little feminism, an otherwise completely demonized antagonist group being revealed to be very human.
    It’s also a tactics game, like XCOM, except much more reasonable.

    • @atchafalya3168
      @atchafalya3168 4 роки тому

      aw im glad someone actually mentioned the banner saga. it has so much to say and its so beautifully made. i love how it portrays people and the kind of group effort it takes to keep going at the end of the world and its a story i really needed, and one that i appreciate even more after playing it again. plus the music is awesome, really captures the melancholic strength that the story puts out.

  • @negspirito
    @negspirito 4 роки тому +38

    As far as anime go, Yokohama Shopping Trip (Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou) and Girls' Last Tour (Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryokou) offer rather unique takes on the whole post-apocalypse thing.

  • @dextergrif
    @dextergrif 2 роки тому +1

    Was happy to hear Noah Caldwell-Gervais in this video. As a huge Half-Life fan, his Half-Life retrospective was one of my favorite videos for years, and I’ve been watching a lot of his videos since then. Good cameo.

  • @decanusseverus8773
    @decanusseverus8773 4 роки тому +19

    The bit about people helping each other after the blizzard kinda gave me wholesome goosebumps

  • @valid_sound_and_furious8413
    @valid_sound_and_furious8413 4 роки тому +5

    You're right that Mad Max stands out for it's resource-war slow decline instead of a sudden apocalypse. This is exactly why I think we. NEED. A film adaptation of _Parable of the Sower._ Octavia Butler's climate crisis meltdown of society is so compelling because it is so believable. Once you've read it you can always see that world just a few steps of backsliding from where we are.

  • @Strauss-
    @Strauss- 4 роки тому +40

    I only say this because you encouraged us to do this in the comments: I am blown away that you didn't mention Postman. Nowhere are the supposed dichotomies you are describing laid more bare.

    • @scratch2086
      @scratch2086 4 роки тому

      What's the Postman about or is that a certain character in one of these stories?

    • @Strauss-
      @Strauss- 4 роки тому

      @@scratch2086 The Postman is a book by David Brin and a movie based on that book by Kevin Costner. The movie is a dumber, more patriotic version of the book, but it surprisingly keeps the core themes alive. It's an illustration of the faliciousness of primitivist-fascist ideology and its view on humans strikes just the balance between Hobbesian egoism, which the antagonist faction subscribes to, and Rousseauian noble savage idealism, as it describes a post-apocalyptic society rebuilding itself on nothing but the abolishment of the illusion of heteronymity.
      I recommend the movie if you're fine with the excrutiating lengths and sap of later Costner movies, on which I personally thrive.

  • @sholem_bond
    @sholem_bond 4 роки тому +17

    Okay, but how does one talk about "Lord of the Flies" without talking about how the author apparently meant it as a response to the idea of White English/Western European exceptionalism (the idea that white, English children would be inherently more civilized in that type of disaster situation than children of any other group)?

    • @DaKrimch
      @DaKrimch 4 роки тому +2

      Easily. In high schools all over America at least there's none of that reading, and I've only ever heard of it from this specific comment section. I can see how that might be true after being shown the interpretation, but the author's intentions are easily hidden.

  • @TripleGia
    @TripleGia 4 роки тому +95

    An hour and eighteen minutes... We've been truly blessed on this day

    • @rawalshadab3812
      @rawalshadab3812 4 роки тому +1

      Yikes... I'm still recovering from Hbomberguy's video/feature-length movie....

    • @teefmouf5841
      @teefmouf5841 4 роки тому +4

      homestuck

    • @andrewwestfall65
      @andrewwestfall65 4 роки тому +1

      That's why the call him a saint

    • @0Advocat0
      @0Advocat0 4 роки тому

      I am rather fond of the longer breadtube videos as well.

  • @Autumn_Actually
    @Autumn_Actually 3 роки тому +3

    One note about Fallout: New Vegas. The NCR do practice slavery: forced prison labor. That's the plotline of a minor faction, the former chain-gang, the Powder Gangers.

  • @futurepastnow
    @futurepastnow 4 роки тому +90

    I prefer the pronunciation "Cheeser" since it's the funniest way to say Caesar

    • @blarg2429
      @blarg2429 4 роки тому +9

      Cheeser salad does sound appetizing.

    • @everythingisathing364
      @everythingisathing364 4 роки тому +4

      Hail cheeser. Salad.

    • @discountpotato5680
      @discountpotato5680 4 роки тому +1

      @@everythingisathing364 mmmmm

    • @lucyparr4912
      @lucyparr4912 4 роки тому

      As a classicist, this is my favorite thing ever

    • @0Advocat0
      @0Advocat0 4 роки тому +2

      Still call him Kaiser, for the exact same reason I respect people's names and pronouns, even while punching his shitty fashy face to death. A silly take, perhaps, but, yeah...

  • @victoriafelix5932
    @victoriafelix5932 4 роки тому +18

    There are a few things to unpack here, as I think aloud (as it were) to myself in silence.
    Golding's central thesis regarding the boys of _The Lord of the Flies_ reflects his lived experience as a teacher ... of the upper classes of white British schoolboys. He had remarked, regarding their portrayals in children's literature, that their disposition was more cut-throat, more animalistic, and that the conditioning of British schoolboys to defer to social authorities would lead to this destructiveness when they are removed.
    And he has a point.
    In looking at colonial Australian history, very often it was the absence of such authorities that enabled genocide. At the "local level," the poison-loaced flour, the rape of children due to the virgin cure myth, et alia, these acts were enabled by the absence of such authorities, and the "free" application of authority away from oversight was a key factor in the later Coniston massacre of 1928.
    And all this leads to anarchy.
    Essentially, anarchy is the absence of formalised, even ossified hierarchies of leadership. That is, anarchy is often the absence of the state. And it is in the state's best interest to enjoy narratives that portray the absence of the state as a utopia for poltical nihilism. This is why such Hobbesian fantasias exist.
    And I guess that this results in its own form of dialectic: the state destroys itself because it destroys its alternative, the same way that anarchism implodes through its denial of the hierarchic realities of society. Hierarchies tie small, personal communities into one, so that the stronger a hierarchy, such as that of the federalised state or of a public service/exectutive branch of government, the more resistant it is to sudden, even apocalyptic collapse.
    The state needs to reconcile with anarchy, and vice versa. Each one is, therefor, the other's shadow, to be integrated with rather than eliminated.
    And yes, I know, there are some, nay many out there who dispute the notion of genocide occuring in colonial Australia, usually on the predicate that the absence of the idea , rather, the term, made the idea unthinkable. It's almost as though saying the lack of the word 'Caesar Salad' precluded the idea of inventing the Caesar Salad. And yet....
    Given the ideological importance of nostalgia and the inability to think beyond what once was, that almost (well, strictly speaking it is) Lovecraftian notion of "The past is real, it's all that exists," it is important to realise that the Fallout series embeds within itself the very critique of that notion. The cyclic nature of that universe arises clearly out of the failures to think beyond the past. It chases its own tail, its own future, yet progresses nowhere. Even that image recycles the Wheel of Fortune and the tragic failure of those that seek to break it, even escape from it.
    It's almost as if such cycles return eternally, until, even unless, some radical break, some apocalyptic shift occurs, some road to Damascus moment (a single apocalyptic moment) or some long dark night of the soul (an ongoing apocalyptic sequence). It's almost as if some centrifuge spins from foreverness unto foreverness, keeping asunder the red dragon, the white dragon, the darkenening dove and the (en)lightening one. Keeping apart, that is, any chance of a synthesis of two antagonistic theses....

  • @YeNguyen
    @YeNguyen 4 роки тому +24

    Been rewatching Battlestar Galactica this year-my first revisit in ten years or so!-and while the premise of the 00s show says more about our fractured priorities post-9/11, it's interesting now to see it as one of the more interesting takes on the post-apocalypse, as one of the main concerns of the show is the effort it takes to keep the old societal structures intact vs. the usual stories about what rises from the ashes after those structures have been fully erased.
    While that seems to place it on the "dystopia" side of the sort-of spectrum that you mentioned, I'd still argue "post-apocalypse" for BSG as the catastrophe is literally world-ending. Planets laid to waste and billions dead, 50,000 people left on several dozen ships. What happens next, by definition, has to be a response to the end of the world!

  • @joearnold6881
    @joearnold6881 4 роки тому +12

    Damnit.
    He mentioned New Vegas.
    Now I’m gonna have to spend days reinstalling New Vegas.
    Every few years you have to go find all the best realism mods, community patches, graphical overhauls, etc (ie all the things that make the game “vanilla+” without adding dumb stuff (this is just my personal preference, ofc)), figure out which ones are currently best, and get them all working together.
    It’s such a chore.
    But the game is so worth it...
    Sorry, my enormous backlog of unplayed Steam games in my library. Instead of playing any of you I now must add a couple hundred more hours into the last good Fallout game!

  • @moredetonation3755
    @moredetonation3755 4 роки тому +249

    The Breadtube obsession with Hotline Miami continues

    • @benzur3503
      @benzur3503 4 роки тому +13

      I loved how the meta-narrative of it relates to the subject of this essay AND it being a banger

    • @Nanook128
      @Nanook128 4 роки тому +1

      Do you have any other references of bread tube talkin about hotline Miami?

    • @moredetonation3755
      @moredetonation3755 4 роки тому +12

      @@Nanook128 Folding Ideas talked about it a while ago, and other tubers have used its music.

    • @justlegoing6822
      @justlegoing6822 4 роки тому +14

      @@Nanook128 hbomb hasn't mentioned it yet, but he used a ton of its music in either his dark souls 2 or bloodborne video

    • @eddi8634
      @eddi8634 4 роки тому +3

      What's breadtube? Im outta the loop

  • @AdrianArmbruster
    @AdrianArmbruster 4 роки тому +16

    As for this early question of 'Distopian' vs 'post-apocalyptic' divide: I'd say, if your average joe still has to pay a utility bill (or similar routine commitment) then it's not post-apocalyptic. New Vegas runs into a bit of a problem here in that civilizations are re-establishing itself and so the apocalyptic frontier is kind of receding.

    • @magicalsealand5076
      @magicalsealand5076 4 роки тому +3

      Fallout New Vegas is post post apocalypse. Humanity is rebuilding there's civilization but the change brought by the apocalypse affects said rebuilding

  • @Summy_99
    @Summy_99 4 роки тому +28

    An important detail I think you might be missing about Gurren Lagann is that after liberating the spiral races, Simon leaves Rossiu in charge and hands over his core drill to essentially the next generation. The idea that it's perpetuating a climate change denial is challenged by the fact that the spiral nemesis is real and would happen if it weren't for the restraint that someone like Rossiu is uniquely capable of showing. The heroes' point to the anti-spiral is not "The spiral nemesis isn't real" or "The spiral nemesis isn't a problem we need to worry about" it's that they need to believe in our ability to avoid it. The final exchange between Simon and the Anti-spiral is the Anti-spiral saying (after being defeated) "if this is how it must be, protect the universe at all costs" and Simon responds, "Of course. Believe in us, too." The spiral nemesis is a problem that they need to solve, but it is worth trying to solve it in a way that doesn't require the oppression of anyone.
    Kamina's view of never giving in and always doing whatever you want no matter the consequences is shown to be flawed and that the true solution is to combine that drive to improve society with the more level-headed approach of Rossiu and to some extent Nia. Even though the fandom is pretty shitty to Rossiu, I think the show is ultimately supportive of him and most of the fans just missed the point. He is the best suited to running things, he just messed up the first time because he forgot Kamina's lesson of always striving for the best possible society. After Simon demonstrates this to him, he is perfectly equipped to be the new leader of humanity, making peace with all the other spiral races and establishing a utopia.
    Sorry for writing so much, but, as you might glean from my avatar, Gurren Lagann is my favorite anime and one of my favorite pieces of media ever. I don't consider flawless by any stretch of the imagination, in fact I can think of several anime that I consider technically better, its favorite status is more due to the personal emotional impact it has had on me. I am fully willing to recognize its flaws, but I don't think this is one.

    • @MCArt25
      @MCArt25 2 роки тому

      Plenty of climate deniers have changed tunes to "climate change is real, but we can't/shouldn't do anything about it/humanity will prevail no matter what/god will save me, fuck you"

  • @MrLukeKK
    @MrLukeKK 4 роки тому +4

    These are my favorite kinds of media videos, just a romp through philosophy and ideology.

  • @Simianking2
    @Simianking2 4 роки тому +92

    I NEED a Jack Saint video about Neon Genesis Evangelion. Please...

    • @smjaiteh
      @smjaiteh 4 роки тому +1

      I want one on RahXephon too. Just to mess with either fandom.

  • @evannorth8566
    @evannorth8566 4 роки тому +5

    That little snippet from the Old Word Blues DLC ending tugged at my heartstrings so much. I never wanted New Vegas to end. Amazing video!

  • @WhosAlx
    @WhosAlx 4 роки тому +8

    At 53:40 when you look around because the Wild Wasteland perk activated, its because there’s a reference from Monty Python’s The Life of Brian written on the wall next to you in red paint.

  • @miketacos9034
    @miketacos9034 4 роки тому +36

    It's pretty fitting that humanity is beset by climate change, an apocalypse that requires peace, cooperation, and sustainability to solve, while very few of these post-apocalyptic movies show much of how to rebuild a society in that way.

  • @ILikedGooglePlus
    @ILikedGooglePlus 4 роки тому +69

    Hegel: The Jack Saint of his day

  • @dunningdunning4711
    @dunningdunning4711 4 роки тому +17

    Personally, I loathe the appeal to human nature. I don't believe we can step outside of history and examine how we would behave in some mythological state, be it Hobbes's war-of-all against all or Rousseau's Nobel Savage. Any apocalypse will be the apocalypse of some specific place in some specific time and place, with norms and conventions that will influence how people react to said apocalypse. Humanity is just too complex for such an artificial framework, which, to me, is nothing but a lazy debating technique.

  • @MaidKnightNoelle
    @MaidKnightNoelle 4 роки тому +26

    I was playing New Vegas when I saw the notification. Guess who’s both playing and watching at the same time lmaooo

  • @alfonsopulido5721
    @alfonsopulido5721 4 роки тому +2

    Literally once you got to Gurren Lagann I stopped the video, and binge watched the rest of the series because I put it off half way through for the longest time. Then I came back to finish this and mention all this. No regrets!

  • @iheartjackieyes
    @iheartjackieyes 4 роки тому +6

    the new california republic does have slavery with prison labor, it's what the powder gangers escaped from. they were being forced to put down rail for trains, if i remember right, before taking the prison over.

  • @TindraSan
    @TindraSan 4 роки тому +18

    Spaghetti Westerns: Now we don't only have a a Good and a Bad... we also have an Ugly

  • @SPARR0E
    @SPARR0E 4 роки тому +41

    Funny thing, I'm currently writing about FNV for a college essay!

  • @thesurvivorssanctuary6561
    @thesurvivorssanctuary6561 4 роки тому +94

    I feel like MAGA should've gotten a shoutout in this video. Talking about an obsession with the past, how symbols take on a life of their own, and that MAGA represents an imagined idealistic past that never existed(much like fantasy novels).
    Also, Jack Saint jsdt loves talking about fascism, so yeah; come on! We need a MAGA episode now!

    • @alexroselle
      @alexroselle 4 роки тому +16

      It's an interesting example because it's a *pre*-apocalyptic[1] example of "old world blues" and textbook fascism[2] also.
      [1] writing this in August 2020, your mileage may vary
      [2] hopefully this isn't controversial to anyone reading this, if so check "ur-fascism" by Umberto Eco for reference

    • @Hatfright
      @Hatfright 4 роки тому +5

      @@alexroselle I just wanna say I love that first remark. It's funny and yet so terrifying.

  • @gwoolham
    @gwoolham 4 роки тому +35

    1 second in, MOON on the soundtrack, that's a thumbs up from me!

  • @Torthrodhel
    @Torthrodhel 4 роки тому +3

    "My name's not Shane, kid!"
    Oh my goodness I fell over laughing. Top quality reference moment.

  • @LackingSaint
    @LackingSaint  4 роки тому +109

    Get 20% OFF + Free Shipping + 2 FREE GIFTS @Manscaped with code JACKSAINT at Manscaped.com!  mnscpd.com/JackSaint
    so, what did I miss? what should I cover next time? what do you want to hear more about? let me know!
    here's some topics I wrote about and ultimately cut segments on for the sake of video coherency:
    * A Comparison Between The Original & Rebooted Planet of the Apes Franchise
    * The Failure of Every I Am Legend Adaptation
    * Universal Paperclips, 17776 and Post-Post-Apocalypse
    * The Politics of The Walking Dead
    * Marcus & Jacob: The Epic of Gilgamesh In Fallout
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    • @yupyup7139
      @yupyup7139 4 роки тому +3

      wtf they all sound good but if i had to choose i would be in interested in a planet of the apes video

    • @myflock000
      @myflock000 4 роки тому +1

      what about demolition man? does it qualify!!
      what about Henry Biomass from original twilight zone!! it's not fair!!
      lol idk well great video and channel ty

    • @yeetleslaw8529
      @yeetleslaw8529 4 роки тому +1

      nice, great job!

    • @skiffa5792
      @skiffa5792 4 роки тому +1

      Stone(1974)

    • @colm.
      @colm. 4 роки тому +1

      17776 section is a must but you gotta present it in Google Earth

  • @KrazyKaiser
    @KrazyKaiser 4 роки тому +1

    The idea that we become animals as soon as all the utilities are gone is so fucking wild to me. We built the utilities from nothing! Why would we not just build a new society? We always have done that in the past?

  • @ElysiumTan
    @ElysiumTan 4 роки тому +57

    i kinda wish there were more eastern influences in this so far (about halfway thru, i do see gurren laggaan tho). for instance, shin megami tensei is _all_ about the apocalypse and what's left behind...also demons! yay.

    • @clashmanthethird
      @clashmanthethird 4 роки тому +3

      smt is centrist propaganda

    • @popeprinny4705
      @popeprinny4705 4 роки тому

      How? Almost all games (bar a few spinoffs) let you choose to side with whatever ideology you want, and never really paints any particular one as the “right” path.

    • @clashmanthethird
      @clashmanthethird 4 роки тому +8

      @@popeprinny4705 Conflicts are presented as a single binary axis, but the two opposing sides are "too extreme" and neutrality is usually the "complete" experience from a gameplay perspective and if there's ever a follow up, neutral is canon (SMT 1 to 2, SMT 4 to Apocalypse)

    • @popeprinny4705
      @popeprinny4705 4 роки тому +6

      Well yeah, you get more gameplay in neutral because you have to shut down both the law and chaos sides, and the gameplay you get is minimal (1 extra dungeon and boss at most). The main flaw of neutral is that it won’t stop the root problem of the conflict (humanity’s inner flaws in most cases), so it’s obvious that sequels will show how the neutral endings in previous games didn’t really fix anything.

    • @clashmanthethird
      @clashmanthethird 4 роки тому +7

      @@popeprinny4705 Neutral isn't perfect, but when the games take a "no right side" approach because each ending is a different flavor of fucked, it still ends up sending the message "both sides equally bad" and neutrality comes across as the most level headed option for being non extremist. Also 4 Apocalypse, the most recent entry, is just blatant neutrality stanning with chaos and law being joke endings.
      If you applied SMT's message to real life politics you'd end up with "the left is too extreme left and the right is too extreme right and they're both equally bad"

  • @Wierzwiack
    @Wierzwiack 4 роки тому +3

    I feel like SMT games would be a good thing to look at for post-apocalyptic narratives, as the series relies on the player fighting for an ideology they choose to fight for

  • @thechocolateshoefiles9259
    @thechocolateshoefiles9259 4 роки тому +14

    Mr House is one of the most fascinating Fallout characters, in my opinion. His entire plan is to absorb all the resources, manpower and power that he can access, in the structure and processes of the old capitalist American society, and use that to give humanity a brand new opportunity, restarting enough of the old world to colonize a new planet and start again. I think what's most interesting about him is the debate around this plan, and how polarising it currently is. Do you put all the resources into a total new start, abandon all that failed and start anew uninfluenced by the old world? Or do you take those same resources and put them back into the old world, try to revive all good and leave the bad buried in the debris, taking it as a drastic reform instead of an entire reset?

    • @thechocolateshoefiles9259
      @thechocolateshoefiles9259 4 роки тому +2

      @Morphing Taxi 'Moving on ain't the hard part... It's letting go.'

    • @scratch2086
      @scratch2086 4 роки тому

      @@thechocolateshoefiles9259 What's the difference between moving on and letting go?

    • @thechocolateshoefiles9259
      @thechocolateshoefiles9259 4 роки тому +1

      @@scratch2086 Moving on means you start living as you used to, your behaviour becomes independent from whatever it is you've moved on from, you've stopped fighting against the fact that it has happened and you accept you can't change it. Letting go means you come to terms with it on an emotional level, when you think about it there's no sentimental pull; you accept what happened and now you don't just live inspite of it but actually start to forget that it ever had a hold on you at all.

    • @scratch2086
      @scratch2086 4 роки тому

      @@thechocolateshoefiles9259 Ok I can dig it.

  • @jackpollard550
    @jackpollard550 4 роки тому +1

    I think this might be your best video yet. Insightful commentary on a wealth of different stories, messages, ideologies, and ideas.
    From one Jack to another - I salute you sir. Keep up the excellent work. And should the end times come, I promise; I won’t eat you.

  • @maloryfunction2260
    @maloryfunction2260 4 роки тому +3

    Jack saint, fallout, and blade runner all in one video? Damn trifecta of perfection

  • @HeirOfDrills
    @HeirOfDrills 4 роки тому +2

    Long form videos are really my favorite, and yours are always so much fun to watch through. Please keep it up!!!!

  • @TATERplaysGAMES
    @TATERplaysGAMES Рік тому +4

    Comparing House to Musk is really unfair to House, cause he actually invented things.

  • @genebean4230
    @genebean4230 3 місяці тому +2

    You got Noah Caldwell-Gervais on this! Just made an awesome video even better haha love your work :D

  • @MF-R
    @MF-R 3 роки тому +4

    Yes! You are the only other person who has seen a boy and his dog! Litterally the only review channel I've seen do it! Underrated and cool movie.

  • @emilyfarfadet9131
    @emilyfarfadet9131 4 роки тому +1

    Wanted to say that I really admired the thought and nuance you put into this video, I can see how much passion you have for the subject and I think this is one of your strongest pieces.

  • @Waouben
    @Waouben 4 роки тому +5

    Regarding Matrix, I've seen an interpretation that says that the point of referencing "Simulacre et Simulation" is to show that the book is (literally in the film) hollow.

  • @silverstarinthesky
    @silverstarinthesky 4 роки тому +2

    If you want another example of people banding together and organizing after a disaster I’d highly recommend the Daily podcast’s episode on the Great Alaska Quake, which was done to promote the book on the event and the woman who helped organizes everyone, This is Chance. It’s a very heartwarming listen

  • @wabznasm9660
    @wabznasm9660 4 роки тому +4

    Bloody hell Jack, this is why you’re the only video essayist I NEVER miss.

  • @TV-8-301
    @TV-8-301 4 роки тому

    I really appreciate how you thoroughly explore the ideas instead of forcing us towards a conclusion, there's so much to consider!

  • @arkelon619
    @arkelon619 4 роки тому +7

    I originally skipped over this video when it came out because the topic just didn't really interest me. But after seeing the community posts about how much work you put into it I figured I owed it to you to watch it even if it got a little boring. I'm glad I was wrong this is a great video I hope there are more people like me who come back to it if they didnt give it a chance before

  • @a1t3rmusic
    @a1t3rmusic 4 роки тому

    yep...an hour of Jack Saint was exactly what i needed.

  • @kesshikou
    @kesshikou 4 роки тому +20

    ah yes, Limmy, the noble savage

  • @octogirl555
    @octogirl555 4 роки тому +1

    Loved this, very glad you decided against a multi-part series. Seeing these differing depictions compared with such immediacy provided a nuanced analysis of the apocalypse genre that I can't remember having seen before.

  • @thejordangrace
    @thejordangrace 4 роки тому +7

    I was not expecting Sunflower Market from the Hamtaro: Ham-Hams Unite soundtrack of all things to be playing over the credits

  • @jzoobs
    @jzoobs 4 роки тому +1

    Such a joy that even after graduating film school, there's so much cool stuff to learn from creators like you. Keep up this amazing work, I appreciate it.
    Support Jack on Patreon ya'll!

  • @whynotanyting
    @whynotanyting 4 роки тому +3

    I'm so glad I brushed up on my "The Town With No Name" research before this video

  • @j.t.hassell9131
    @j.t.hassell9131 4 роки тому +2

    Great video, very obvious a lot of time energy and care went into the making. 10/10.

  • @AveryTalksAboutStuff
    @AveryTalksAboutStuff 4 роки тому +13

    Damn, Jack is just a full on filmmaker at this point. 🔥

  • @Holesale00
    @Holesale00 4 роки тому +1

    That global warming and spiral energy fucking up the earth analogy thing fucked me up, Gurren Lagann still mind fucking me to this day.