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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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    The TGR Jane, Alice, and 910 are some of the most famous and sought after keyboards in the hobby. In this video, I go into why they have been so successful, and now the market has changed as a result.
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  • @AndyVNguyen
    @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому +6

    Use code ANDYV50 to get 50% off your first Factor box at bit.ly/3H9tJB3!

  • @FitLabb
    @FitLabb Рік тому +14

    Really enjoyed this video with the deep dive into TGR boards. I’ve joined more TGR raffles than I can count at this point and still haven’t won a single one. I refuse to pay aftermarket prices, so hopefully I’ll get a W one of these years.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому +1

      Only raffle I have ever won was a Nue lol. And that was bc no one entered

    • @ryelo5448
      @ryelo5448 Рік тому

      Well tomorrow is the raffle for thhe last tgr run at monokei, so

    • @FitLabb
      @FitLabb Рік тому

      @@ryelo5448 So there’s still a chance…..

  • @henrirobbins2343
    @henrirobbins2343 Рік тому +25

    Gotta say, completely agree on getting boards for yourself. I always think - regardless of the hobby - that people care far too much about rarity and value (look at how much people freak out about 1-of-1 hypercars that they'll never even see in real life). In the end, it really doesn't matter how much your board is worth if you don't love typing on it. My current daily driver, the RS60, literally has extras on sale right now. But does it matter at all? No, because I love typing on it. It makes me happy, and I'm glad to see that sentiment being advocated for more.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому +2

      Yeah, definitely. People keep thinking of keyboards as an investment or clout currency.. just missing the whole point of having a hobby you enjoy. Glad you found something you're happy with!

    • @henrirobbins2343
      @henrirobbins2343 Рік тому +2

      ​@@shynnsup8383 WKL Bisoromi RS60, filmed and spring-swapped RNDKBD Ultraglide Blacks, Durock stabs, PBT keycaps. Nothing groundbreaking or revolutionary, just a solid, reliable board without any extra frills.

  • @arpeykeys
    @arpeykeys Рік тому +6

    That point about owning a highly sought after board and "quitting" the hobby is VALID lmao. You're either in the hobby long enough and can appreciate why its highly sought after and maybe even justify the price, or you're just chasing hype for no reason. If someone sells their whole collection to own a Jane and then never look back at keyboards, its like where the fuck is the value in owning a Jane anymore if you don't even like the hobby lol. Great fucking take dude

  • @ziich1
    @ziich1 Рік тому +9

    The iron 165 r2 is one of the first boards I have ever gotten. It was way too expensive and a bit basic. It is also my favorite board despite having better boards in my collection.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому +3

      Iron165r1 was my favorite board for a long time. It just had to go when I minimized collection because I grew out of the aesthetic and sound. But I really loved S+R stuff at the time

  • @S_P_A_C_E_PUBGM
    @S_P_A_C_E_PUBGM Рік тому +45

    Thank you for posting keyboard video. This is my cocaine

    • @leonardoc.1584
      @leonardoc.1584 Рік тому +1

      I’m glad that we accept that we have a problem. No, I’m not leaving it.

    • @_mew
      @_mew Рік тому

      Cocaine would probably be cheaper 😔

  • @abyss_mk
    @abyss_mk Рік тому +5

    Love the dry and crisp sound of the V2 CE because of how different it is from every modern board nowadays, and the rusty screws, dings, and usb mini it came with 😎

  • @Xerpocalypse_
    @Xerpocalypse_ Рік тому +7

    I love my V2 CE. Getting that Paypal invoice when I got home from work, after submitting the google form from my phone in the parking lot after the initial form crash panic was an insane feeling. Waiting 18 months was a lot, but it was worth the wait. It was worth not selling it, it’s a great board, but the aftermarket prices are (and were) absurd.
    I love bringing it to meetups and being able to share the experience of typing on a piece of keyboard hobby history. It has has classic Jane DNA and lineage from boards back when I joined the hobby in 2017, but it has a design that also sort of hinted at what was to come in the next couple years. And yes, that comes with the inconvenience of a right-side flush mini-USB port. 😂

  • @manicmw
    @manicmw 10 місяців тому

    Great video, I've only recently joined the keeb comm but it's videos like these that are so informative about the history and classic keebs that make me really appreciate them

  • @seancreighton4393
    @seancreighton4393 7 місяців тому

    Home gym looks insane. You should totally post a tour. Love the Watson plates

  • @quocanhhbui8271
    @quocanhhbui8271 Рік тому +2

    9:55 this is f*cked up

  • @everydaysamething
    @everydaysamething 10 місяців тому +19

    These keyboards look incredibly generic for the market value and acclaim associated with them. The rigged raffles are also incredibly cringe and off-putting

    • @GlareStringth
      @GlareStringth 8 місяців тому +3

      very interesting view on the tgr brand, but a respectable one i agree with it looking generic and boring but the people buying janes for 2k are doing it for the history and name, some are buying them for the hype.

  • @EnnTomi1
    @EnnTomi1 Рік тому

    i am new to this hobby but i am surely not to any hobby.
    And what a video, I resonate every word you said. If anything i have learned from my hobby, the no1 thing is always personal sentimental relationships with the object.
    so back to the TGR. since i do not have that sentimental connection to this hobby. To me its all about the design and maybe the story behind it. I have to say the easetic design indeed clicks with me. the 910 with that PVD silver accent is just so nice. the whole geometry about the side of the keyboard is so simple and minimal. I am not a big fan of that seam that joins the top and bottom part tho. (The overall design reminds me of GTR r34 somehow lol).

  • @ChillingPickle
    @ChillingPickle Рік тому

    Just bought a B stock extra Tomo for a good price. Excited to try it out! Agree that there’s a bit of fomo/hype that comes from anything TGR

  • @Mojo__
    @Mojo__ Рік тому +9

    I have an OG v2 CE and it outclasses all of my other boards in terms of feel and sound. The only one that holds a candle to it is my HHKB Type S.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      topre scratches a diff itch. I recently got a modded realforce and it’s def a nice complement

    • @tendieman69
      @tendieman69 Рік тому

      V2 CE sounds pretty meh IMO. The metallic noise and echo noise pushed me away from it. It's just sitting on the shelves collecting dust ever since. You can easily find a board that sounds way better, such as Cloudline, No1, or pretty much any other board. Even og Jane v2 sounds better....

    • @Mojo__
      @Mojo__ Рік тому

      @@tendieman69 Different strokes for different folks.

    • @mvskldjfjvou394p
      @mvskldjfjvou394p Рік тому

      @@tendieman69if urs sitting on a shelf, sell it to me :p

  • @tillermydudes117
    @tillermydudes117 7 місяців тому

    From a quick glance it looked exactly like my razor TKL huntsman 😂

  • @Redonepunch
    @Redonepunch 6 місяців тому

    I love my Tomo. The quality of the anodization is gorgeous and to me it sounds really good. I feel like people are missing out if they're dismissing it

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  6 місяців тому +1

      Tomo is such a sleeper

  • @Nohki
    @Nohki Рік тому +2

    I love keyboard history and lore

  • @KypHeM
    @KypHeM Рік тому

    why dont they experiment with high tension strings or drums on the bottom of the board? it can produce some tunable boardds which can open a new market like blend the sound world, music and pc. Some kind of bassy string on the bottom perfectly tuned to produce bassy or high pitch sound whatever you like and you can use guitar tuners to tune it.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      There’s not that much space down there

  • @ansuman3900
    @ansuman3900 Рік тому +2

    Solid video as always! As an owner of the OG v2 CE, I disagree about the sound profile, I find that it tends to amplify the bass of switches, I think the dryness you're thinking of comes from the mx blacks used in the tests from supbeez that you showed. If you listen closely though you can hear the internal bassy reverb, almost as if there's desk noise form the board. Lightning's tests use op blacks and doesn't sound dry at all and is really clacky as you would expect from op blacks on alu, however when comparing it to other tests I don't think you can really "trust" it more than others since that isn't really a common combo in the board.
    That being said to me it's the best board I've ever had, it ticks pretty much every box for me. It's got a super comfy typing angle and front height along with wkl. The bassy sound profile is what I'm looking for in boards vs clacky builds. I've dailied it for the last year and a half as a result. It's the 1 board I'd never sell even if I had to say goodbye to the rest of my collection. Just my 2 cents though, like I said earlier banger video!

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      I can hear sound processing in some peoples tests.. that’s why I trust certain ones more lol. It’s a nice board, lucky for those who got it in Gb.. as for everyone else.. yeah I’d look for other options lol. Thanks!

  • @MercyOfDarkness
    @MercyOfDarkness Рік тому +1

    10:22, worth mentioning about FCFS type of stuff is that there are a LOT of bots set up to "snipe" high demand boards on a FCFS basis.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      And with the raffle system there are people who generate tons of emails to basically guarantee wins. People have been selling 910 Me and Jane Me wins

  • @ImOnMy116
    @ImOnMy116 Рік тому +2

    Can’t say I have any builds that were more than $500 in total, but I can say I’ve had more fun modding my Bakeneko than I’ve had configuring any other board. Having lots of PCB / plate options easily accessible with easy access to the plate / PCB is a gift. I’d love to get a Unikorn, but the polycarb January will be my copium

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому +2

      And that’s def what makes it fun. That’s why I made fun of the that people just wanted that one thing and they’d be “done”

  • @falconcheng5672
    @falconcheng5672 10 місяців тому

    What’s your tomo configuration?

  • @73rmin8r
    @73rmin8r 3 місяці тому

    Why wouldnt they leave the group buy open for like a week and let everybody who wants one order one, then just make however many are ordered? They do the group buys before actually making them, right?

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  3 місяці тому

      group buys aren't money printing machines, they still have to process it. more units = longer QC period and more likelihood of B, C stock units

    • @73rmin8r
      @73rmin8r 3 місяці тому

      Ah, gotcha

  • @swordreflex
    @swordreflex Рік тому +1

    Thank you for calling out the shady raffle methodology in obtaining these keyboards. This is why I hate that nonsense. FCFS for life.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому +1

      I've seen it happen a lot and I can't really say it without leaking screenshots and DMs and I just don't want to go to that level. The toxic people in the hobby love saving screenshots of people

  • @Xenabeans
    @Xenabeans Рік тому +2

    Andy’s gotta know something, Monokei just announced the final raffle for the ME is next week LMAO
    another great video, and I think it captures how much the hobby has changed over time with the perception of the collectable side of the hobb

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому +1

      lmao that's just luck! i was tired of having this video stay in my backlog. so cranked it out. I love and hate the collectability side of this hobby. Without it though we'd all just be grabbing foam boards and calling it good

  • @Accepting_AE86_Donations
    @Accepting_AE86_Donations 7 місяців тому

    Ayyy the saosin rep, i see you

  • @justinfournier2521
    @justinfournier2521 Рік тому +1

    So happy you've finally posted a video after a while and you granted us a 25 min vid nice!!! By the way what was the build spec for the tomo? (Switches and plate)

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      Factory lubed aflion matcha latte on PC with o ring mount

    • @justinfournier2521
      @justinfournier2521 Рік тому +1

      @@AndyVNguyen honestly that sound tesr was a banger haha! Thanks for the quick reply

  • @tamegaming1768
    @tamegaming1768 Рік тому +1

    For me the Jane was a board I didn't get at all. I was happy with my PE Q1, but as I owned and sold more boards that dry clean top mount sound started calling me. When your FBTKL video came out I realized that was the move. Long wait but after some tweaking the FBTKL's my daily now and I couldn't be happier for what I paid. Not sure if popular opinion swayed my opinion or not, but go figure my dream board runs 3k+ 😂

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      I have never really wanted a Jane but it's interesting to see how most people want it. I just wanted something a little bit more interesting. An MX Black on Alu Jane with beige keycaps is probably the most stereotypical build that people fawn over lol

  • @VioletJewel1729
    @VioletJewel1729 3 місяці тому +1

    group buys stink. I will never ever dedicate my time to stalking a website until drop day. build a good keyboard and sell it, and I will buy it after doing extensive research. Otherwise, I will never buy your keyboard. And everyone should do the same. Group buys are unacceptable for a lot of reasons. They artificially drive up demand and limit supply, thereby taking advantage of people. They exclude potential buyers. They limit availability of information. There is no continuation. It's so annoying.

  • @kgury
    @kgury 10 місяців тому

    Love my TGR Alice

  • @Ryan-ls7bq
    @Ryan-ls7bq Рік тому +2

    I really just don't want to do group buys or raffles again after buying the tomo. After a year and a half of countless delays and waiting I had nearly forgotten I had even bought a keyboard for 600+ after shipping and buying an extra PCB

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      yeah that Tomo wait was wild.. and now the aftermarket is so low (plenty of sellers for under retail) it makes you feel bad about being an early adopter.. even if the board is mostly solid enough.

  • @vaughn6306
    @vaughn6306 Рік тому

    Love the recent video formats on discussing known keyboard brands in the hobby. Hoping this type of format continues.

  • @Ray.F
    @Ray.F Рік тому

    Hey yo, really appreciate this video that you made! I agree that it's a good rule of thumb to get boards that are about yourself and your feelings for them instead of chasing what's popular. Also, it makes me smile when you covered the tomo. It's really an underrated modern TGR Board, and it was disliked upon for being a 75% besides the unlimited group buy point.
    I've own one for 8 months and counting and I kept it because it was a collab between Singapore (Monokei) and Malaysia (TGR). As a local Singaporean, it makes me even happier to own a board like that. Being a 75% enjoyer and just want a safe bet for a high end board without worriyng much about QC issues (thanks to monokei's qc) is just the icing on the cake. Tomo fits in my collection like a glove.

  • @machine211
    @machine211 11 місяців тому

    Imagine paying thousands of dollars for a keyboard with an outdated connector

  • @CosmicBananaTCG
    @CosmicBananaTCG Рік тому +1

    I like this hobby because the sound feel and look is so incredibly subjective. My personal favorite board i have is a class 80 brass halfplate with boba u4t and gmk caps. But nost reviews said it was ok

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому +2

      The true endgame is knowing you're happy with what you have and not being tempted by anything else

  • @Rickyowo
    @Rickyowo Рік тому

    Hi, great video. Something I've been wondering why is there such a big keyboard hobbist community in singapore/vietnam? I know of many artisans, keyboards etc that are made in those countries.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      Proximity to China where a lot of stuff is made?

  • @ChiefBrianIrons
    @ChiefBrianIrons Рік тому

    I can get the MONOKEI x TGR tomo blue on sale from a vendor, after watching this video maybe I will wait for something better. I was looking at Matrix Navi.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      Tomo is solid. I don't know if the Navi will have good sound/feel. The last few run of boards had too many flex cuts

    • @ChiefBrianIrons
      @ChiefBrianIrons Рік тому

      @@AndyVNguyen it has flex cuts at base of the alphas also there not much options for the pcd i.e only hotswap pcd and two plates only. My search will continue. I might end up getting mode sonnet because how customisable it is when picking colours and weights.

    • @ChiefBrianIrons
      @ChiefBrianIrons Рік тому

      @@AndyVNguyen watch build stream of the board with Alexotos didn't sound great, nice looking board only.

  • @jakegoodboyy
    @jakegoodboyy Рік тому

    Good job and good content!!

  • @livelovelucas
    @livelovelucas Рік тому

    babe wake up andy posted

  • @arvinyu424
    @arvinyu424 Рік тому

    This is why I always debate for a week or two before getting new boards. Really glad that I kept a look for the cloud line extras and end up able to get one off FCFS.

  • @tunasu9182
    @tunasu9182 Рік тому +2

    a video that is more than 20 minutes long? hell yes!

  • @JB-ol3xo
    @JB-ol3xo Рік тому +1

    We've moved past the point in the hobby where things immediately jump massively in price as soon as they drop. Oh, certainly there will be outliers here and there and very limited runs that generate tons of hype, but with more in stock options, more rolling/continuous drops, larger numbers sold via gb's because of the hobby's increased prominence, and just a higher overall quality for all boards there's simply too much supply for the demand to generate such crazy aftermarket values. Whereas in the past even a succeful group buy which sold out quickly would have quite small numbers, now that the hobby is larger those numbers baloon to the point that even if there is scarcity, more will wind up showing up aftermarkert. It's very, very rare for anything that has recently dropped not to be available somehwere at all times, compare that to the way it felt in 2020-2021 to find certain sought after boards where you might find an average of literally a single example per month among all second hand platforms and it just translates to less hype/scarcity driven prices. This is a very good thing.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      Definitely. Tons of options to get a decent sounding keyboard. But it's interesting to see how Unikorn and Kohaku still grabs most of peoples attention despite there being plenty of other options.

    • @sumkid9263
      @sumkid9263 Рік тому

      @@AndyVNguyen the unikorn still has that sound profile that you cant really seem to find in other similar oring boards surprisingly.

  • @SMKeyboards
    @SMKeyboards Рік тому +3

    your intro made me want to say "hi andy" as if it was aa meeting...
    Also the burn at 6:22 felt like a "write that down" meme
    EDIT: finished the video, A+.. i personally love learning/hearing about the history of these well known brands and where they're at now.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому +1

      hahaha. yeah i definitely know too much about keyboards based on how much time/money I've spent here. Glad you enjoyed the video, it took so long for me to put together and ended up longer than I wanted but hey, it's thorough

  • @rickymartin181
    @rickymartin181 Рік тому +2

    People with the hyped boards doesn’t want the hype to go down or else they won’t be able to capitalise it.
    Rest just fall for it😂
    You killed it again Andy!

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому +2

      haahha forreal though. if you go in the geekhead thread for the jane v2 ce, there's a LOT of shitting on the Me

  • @Scumble373
    @Scumble373 Рік тому

    I love videos like this

  • @jacksoncm2857
    @jacksoncm2857 Рік тому +2

    Bruh the KFA roast 😆foreal tho I have no idea how they haven't caught more shit over how awful the freebird tkl colors turned out

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому +2

      They somehow have a solid community that’s willing to believe whatever excuses they make. It’s impressive

  • @wanabdulhadi1268
    @wanabdulhadi1268 Рік тому +1

    I guess in some ways, i buy my keyboards for the same reason. My most “prized” keyboards that I own are the tomo, typ65+, and dan60, all malaysian boards (national pride lol). I even made them all lotr themed. Very happily retired since I realised I spent way too much in this hobby. I wouldn’t mind getting a korn or kohaku down the line though..

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому +2

      Everyone says that lmao. They're happy with what they have but a Singa W can change their mind. I'm stupid lucky to have both rn so I'm not tempted by much

    • @wanabdulhadi1268
      @wanabdulhadi1268 Рік тому

      @@AndyVNguyen it’s literally the only thing I’m looking at right now…unless a typ60 somehow makes itself available. But fr tho, this hobby really threw off what I considered “expensive”.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      Typ60 isn't too bad. I just assembled it poorly lol. I started picking up gym stuff again and that stuff kinda made keyboards feel cheap lol

  • @ulqi
    @ulqi Рік тому

    "What is the point of getting a clone keyboard" idk man paying $330 for a V2 CE during *****'s first GB seems like the best deal I've ever seen in that hobby, it's not even about the cloning lmao

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      If your only basis is lowest cost, then there’s no further discussion to be had. Clones/fakes will always be cheaper

  • @Nekst_Level
    @Nekst_Level Рік тому +1

    I’ll stick with my tomo at $350 and be able to appreciate I have a tgr designed board. I’d love more than any other to have korn but I ain’t paying over a grand and I know my luck so raffle aint gonna go my way. I don’t care if I could get a Kalam of one for $100 that route is trash so I’ll admire yours and others

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому +1

      Respek. I’d do the same. Authentic tgr tomo even if unlimited GB >>>>> buying a clone.

  • @ee1yd
    @ee1yd Рік тому

    Still like a good brass weight, but could just be because of the time i got into the 'hobby'; but i havent touched another board since i got my 'endgame' a year ago

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      I typically prefer having a brass weight, tricks my brain into thinking it's more worth the money

  • @xirxirxir
    @xirxirxir Рік тому +1

    i love my f1 8x and my other boards will probably be given away before i even sell them.

  • @AlexMcDermott
    @AlexMcDermott Рік тому

    Feelin bad about my Unikorn clone /s 😅 took Ls in the raffle so just designed and CNC’d my own, actually super fun! It’s pretty much 1:1 plus a bunch of memes on the weight and battery slot for wireless

  • @Derply
    @Derply Рік тому +1

    is the start just andy flexing all his og keyboards

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      I borrowed hella keyboards for this video lol

    • @Derply
      @Derply Рік тому

      @@AndyVNguyen ah k

  • @syrten
    @syrten Рік тому

    well i entere every unikorn run this year and i got 0. NADA. Do it think its fixed sometimes ? yeah cause i dont believe they follow their rules from already raffles winners. but whatever .

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      I wouldn’t know I’ve never won a unikorn either lol. Mine is from FCFS days. Is there a rule against multiple wins?

  • @da-yh3uy
    @da-yh3uy Рік тому

    the clone keyboards are pretty noticeable in the finish of the brass for the og jane v2, reminds me of some video i watched of taeha signing some dudes jane v2 not knowing it was a fake lol

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      is the finish worse or better? and oh lmao that's awkward haha

    • @da-yh3uy
      @da-yh3uy Рік тому

      @@AndyVNguyen well in the beginning it looks the same but if we talking about the k**** boards the brass gets real dirty like there is no finish on it, smudges real easily

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      ah i see. Yeah that'd be gross

    • @da-yh3uy
      @da-yh3uy Рік тому

      @@AndyVNguyen ua-cam.com/video/TuOpr0a8MdM/v-deo.html at 5:33, it's not just the brass but also the back plate that gets smudged super easily- looking at mechmarket sold ones

  • @parkerlee5881
    @parkerlee5881 Рік тому +1

    giv keeb

  • @leivur
    @leivur Рік тому +1

    Great TGR history lesson.

  • @jalexanderc
    @jalexanderc Рік тому +1

    rumble for the heavy squats lesgoooo

  • @Tunnelsnakes
    @Tunnelsnakes Рік тому

    The mentality of procuring some of these kind of high-end mechanical keyboards reminds me of certain luxury watch brands and how so many of them can look pretty 'standard' in appearance due to the huge abundance of existing homage watches based on them (essentially clones with some modifications/brand's own flavor). But because of heritage alone, the watches from these luxury brands have grey market prices that are sky high, and there are long waitlists to get the authentic ones. At the end of the day, it's up to the community to determine the worth of these luxury items, and as long as the community continues to revere them, they will remain sought after.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому +1

      Definitely agree. Tons of "homages" in this space.. but honestly moreso clones lol. I still can't believe Unikorn went from 1.4k to 2k despite having INCREASED supply in the market.

  • @underdoglucifer
    @underdoglucifer Рік тому +1

    The whole thing well summarized. Glad that I never really sink in this rabbit hole. Just get what you think suit you best and you actually like. Your wallet and mental will thank you down the road. FOMO and artificial scarcity are the most poisonous thing in this hobby. Especially when some influencer hype something up even in plain sight you think it is boring and sound so mediocre.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому +1

      Yeah getting too deep was one of my regrets. I went in with the purpose of learning though so I at least came out with experience. And I can make these videos for yall! But dude some of the stuff that goes behind the scenes of the keyboard scene are grozzz and I don't want anything to do with it.
      There's a reason why I don't get every proto sent to me.. I'm willing to lie to my audience

    • @underdoglucifer
      @underdoglucifer Рік тому

      @@AndyVNguyen Appreciate the honesty bro. Haters will hate. Don't worry we support the Andy who don't give two shitz and burn the bridges so others can learn.

    • @underdoglucifer
      @underdoglucifer Рік тому

      @@AndyVNguyen Btw i got a jane v2 me from last raffle. It was great. Hope the jane v3 will solve of the critics you have with the board.

  • @Rr_9991
    @Rr_9991 Рік тому +1

    I own a clone jane v2 ce. Honestly the reason is that I posted a trade for my 722, and someone offered his clone jane, and I took it bc the aftermarket price of the clone was higher than my 722...I have no intention of flexing it or selling it as if it was real and scamming people. I do like it, but I don't like the sound profile a lot, so I'm probably gonna sell it. Thankfully, I think most people are nice enough to state that it's a clone.
    As of the morality of it, I think clones are bound to happen if your product is hyped up and it has little supply and is too expensive. I personally think it's fine as long as you don't try to flex or sell it as if it was the real deal.

  • @JesusXina
    @JesusXina Рік тому

    Really thinking about selling my Mode Sonnet for a Tomo tbh

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      I could rock with that. A lot of people love Sonnet though..

  • @shylocutus
    @shylocutus Рік тому +1

    thanks for the real talk!

  • @ikono.
    @ikono. Рік тому

    Charo...

  • @soymilktotheface
    @soymilktotheface Рік тому +1

    saosin shirt is so money

  • @TWJYILY
    @TWJYILY Рік тому

    The TGR Jane v2 ME is probably the most well designed keyboard I've ever owned. The sound and typing feel is just special.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      Most well designed? Really? Even with that magnetic rear piece!??!
      The sound and feel is pretty solid. Not full 100% Jane v2 but really close for a much more accessible option.

  • @Jpg.txt_
    @Jpg.txt_ Рік тому

    hi

  • @kename1280
    @kename1280 Рік тому

    wdym andy those browns are peak :pepega:

  • @tareef4063
    @tareef4063 Рік тому

    deez

  • @jalexanderc
    @jalexanderc Рік тому +1

    Liking before even watching

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому +1

      Respek

    • @jalexanderc
      @jalexanderc Рік тому +1

      @@AndyVNguyen still gonna watch at least once or twice or maybe more

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому +1

      Do it for the algo!!

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! Honestly the FBTKL is still pretty decent as a copium Jane if you already have it in hand. The pcbs.. you can use an h88c if you can source that. Unless you specifically want the hotswap pcb. Then maybe something that fit the Frog TKL IIRC.
      Yeah the company itself is a few degrees of sus and I was in the same boat with my Rukia. I loved the board but the maker ended up running off with peoples money.. I ended up giving up the board an selling it off. There has been no good alternative for my lightshow PC Rukia, and I just have come to terms that I can't replace it.
      The white one was protoed well so you got lucky. PP plate with that board sounds like it'd slap

  • @geonfeetpic
    @geonfeetpic Рік тому

    ae người Việt chơi bàn phím cùng nhau!

  • @HITMAN80g
    @HITMAN80g 10 місяців тому +4

    i attended big keebs meet in my country for a several times to do my survey on which board and switches im gonna get, and they are kind enough to let me type test their TGR's boards, and from the deepest of my heart i can genuinely say, for something that cost five digits of usd and being hair thin close to being worshipped by the community, their boards is painfully ordinary. i even asked the owners about it and none of them using it as daily driver, some of em isnt using it at all. this is kinda remind me of 2017 hype when people spend 10k on supreme hoodie, just because its supreme😂😂

    • @ahmedkurukuru4175
      @ahmedkurukuru4175 3 місяці тому

      Cool story bro. High $$$$ doesn't always means quality.

    • @HITMAN80g
      @HITMAN80g 3 місяці тому

      @@ahmedkurukuru4175 hmm, thats odd.
      so whats the word EndGame referred to ?

    • @jalexanderc
      @jalexanderc 2 місяці тому

      @@HITMAN80gimo endgame is the keyboard that finally satisfies you to the point where you stop buying keyboards

  • @resellpanda88
    @resellpanda88 Рік тому +3

    Bro. You keeping it too real. The keycult fanboys are going to boycott you.

  • @Glitch_860
    @Glitch_860 7 місяців тому +1

    Nah my endgame is the Dygma Defy!

  • @johnnythunderr
    @johnnythunderr Рік тому +2

    Oh man. Andy coming through with the Saosin shirt. 🔥

  • @brusferatu
    @brusferatu Рік тому +1

    Why do people buy keyboard clones? Why do people buy keycap clones? Sure some are cheapstakes, but I would bet that a VERY high % do because of availability.
    If I cannot buy it directly from the source, I am not paying YOU a premium just because you bought it first.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      Just buy something else instead

    • @brusferatu
      @brusferatu Рік тому +1

      @@AndyVNguyenI don't buy clones, neither do buy anything aftermarket. But I see a lot of complaints about people buying clones while little to no complaining about designers dont making their sh*t available.

    • @kaeroseon
      @kaeroseon Рік тому

      @@brusferatuI think the problem is the reliance on GMK. Iconic sets are getting more and more available like 8008 (in stock gmk), Olivia (Novelkeys PBT), MoDo Light (OTC PBT) but the cool designs mostly rely on gmk which is why it’s so limited. We need to start looking for better manufacturers to produce these keycaps sets like drop DCX to expand availability. As for keyboards, I feel like the premium 350+ boards will most likely never be truly available for the masses as the sheer scale and customer expectation for those boards are fairly high compared to something around the 200 dollar range.

  • @Juu_ju_
    @Juu_ju_ 9 місяців тому +1

    Really enjoyed watching this video, I’ve been in and out of the hobby through the years. It’s fun to hear the history of all these hype products within the hobby after the fact. Really great filming and high production video!

  • @whirlwind6049
    @whirlwind6049 Рік тому +3

    Nice conk

  • @gulag_sender2123
    @gulag_sender2123 Рік тому +1

    U know u can open the 910 and Jane magnetic back piece vertically, if u have the keyboard standing up, gravity will do it’s job as u take it off and come off really easily

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      I’d be afraid of dropping the keyboard or the plate sliding down on the case, but thank you!

  • @user-lv6rn9cf8m
    @user-lv6rn9cf8m 11 місяців тому

    Not mine. They're ugly. Their logo is ugly. Having a logo where they have it - so ugly.

  • @Oogtug
    @Oogtug Рік тому +3

    lets pour one out for our homie the boogie u killed after the initial intro

  • @pekomsmink
    @pekomsmink Рік тому +5

    amazing video andy, id love to see more lore videos/things explained like this

  • @DM_ME_CAT_PICS
    @DM_ME_CAT_PICS Рік тому +4

    When I first built my Jane ME with PP plate it still had the subtle metallic sound when typing. I force break modded it and it was completely gone. Then I received my stainless steel backplate and removed the force break and to my surprise - no metallic sound or hollowness. Also fully built weight is now 6.1lbs which is surprisingly pretty heavy. I am very content with my ME.

    • @offbrandbiscuit
      @offbrandbiscuit Рік тому

      Heavy backplate for the ME seems to work a lot of magic for it, even though CF looks best imo

  • @wellackchyually
    @wellackchyually Рік тому +1

    Lets say i got some money to spend how should i go about getting an alice?

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому +1

      Go on mechmarket discord and offer to buy. It’ll be like 4k

    • @wellackchyually
      @wellackchyually Рік тому

      @@AndyVNguyen oh shiiiiii lol I guess I need to mow some more lawns before I start shopping for one 😅 I think that might be my end game piece for collecting though. I do wish they were serial numbered or a way to authenticate for that price then I would be even more interested.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      One came up for 1600 actually idk if still available . Yeah serial numbers are dope. My vkc is one of the non numbered ones so kinda sucks

  • @namkhoai5753
    @namkhoai5753 Рік тому +1

    yêu anh, keep up!

  • @TheLostOne156
    @TheLostOne156 11 місяців тому +1

    at least you were honest on why you want/ own one Its about what it means to you not what it means to everyone else.

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  11 місяців тому +1

      yeah definitely. i don't even use it often I just pull it out for nostalgia lol

    • @TheLostOne156
      @TheLostOne156 11 місяців тому

      @@AndyVNguyen mine is Zoom65 olivia coz its my first board and the starting point of me and my sister into the hobby :)

  • @hantuan107
    @hantuan107 Рік тому +1

    6:14 "this is how olive should look like.." **cough** KFA **cough cough**

  • @TJ-pn4sp
    @TJ-pn4sp Рік тому

    Promo>SM 🤗

  • @alfarizi2179
    @alfarizi2179 Рік тому

    meanwhile me with 230$ dareu a84 pro that I bought only for 80$ hahaha ,,,I am poor that why I bought cheap ass full aluminum case keeb

  • @AnhBoyDad
    @AnhBoyDad Рік тому

    l hope you love Pho and keyboard at the same time. Great video Andy. Keep it up, bro !

  • @whaaaat_scoobs
    @whaaaat_scoobs Рік тому

    Good video man thanks! I have only been into keebs since December 2022. Since then I’ve accumulated two Sonnets, an Envoy, two Zoom TKLs, a Momoka Zoo65, and I have some other cheap keyboards that I got because idk why… and then I have my last one, Chimera 65 R2 which I joined the GB and expect that to ship in December this year. I think I’m done buying keebs for a while, I use them every day for work but I don’t use them ALL day every day, so I just can’t justify to keep putting money into these things lol. But still cool to see where TGR came from as I had no idea. Please do more of these history videos, you’re awesome man, thanks again!

  • @TheManicGeek
    @TheManicGeek Рік тому

    Guac is bougie AF
    -Guac enjoyer

  • @TrevorBronowicki
    @TrevorBronowicki Рік тому +4

    Great video, Andy. Never really thought of going after boards for their history or meaning (while also being solid boards in general), but I like that perspective you share a lot. I just hope I can get a Jane ME aftermarket for retail soon 🥲
    Also, factor lookin kinda good tho 🤔

  • @kidoleaz9710
    @kidoleaz9710 Рік тому +1

    I’m in ur walls andy! :3

  • @phucao9250
    @phucao9250 Рік тому

    Are you vietnamese

  • @0Metatron
    @0Metatron Рік тому

    The Tomo is underrated IMO, mine has an FR4 plate and has that exact clean and dry sound. I’m very happy with it.
    The only thing that is not the best is the spacebar sound but that’s most likely because of the FR4.
    It’s a perfectly consistent spacebar sound but doesn’t have that “porcelain” spacebar thing that I love from some boards.
    I’m going to experiment with different plates

    • @WakaaYT
      @WakaaYT 11 місяців тому +1

      This is how I have my Tomo set up and I love it.

  • @SevericK_BooM
    @SevericK_BooM Рік тому

    Flex flex flex

  • @MasterChiefKeef1
    @MasterChiefKeef1 Рік тому

    fuckk i missed out hella :(( i just started getting into keyboards

    • @AndyVNguyen
      @AndyVNguyen  Рік тому

      once you caught up to how bad vendors are doing right now.. it's a big yikes

  • @penguintart
    @penguintart Рік тому

    Awesome vid. 👌💪