India has suffered many conquests, subjugation, colonial rules and barbarism for many centuries creating poverty and lack of basic facilities, yet the people of India accepted those seeking refuge and shared whatever meager means they were surviving on. May Lord God bless the Jewish people and the nation and people of India for protecting and living in such amazing harmony and friendship for not decades, but centuries. Live, prosper and thrive. Shalom and Namaste.
I have lived in Panvel all my life and even went to the synagogue. But I was never aware of the significance it holds neither I knew about the cementry. Seeing my city from a decade earlier really makes me nostalgic.
Me too have lived in Panvel my entire life, but only knew about Israeli Talav, cuz its near the highway. Did not know about synagogue or cemetery. There didn't seem anything like cemetery near lake.
All my Israeli Brothers and Sisters are always welcome in India. India is as much yours as ours and feel free to come and do visit us... With Love from India..
It goes the same way with Hinduism, it is this resilience which led to the holocaust, christianity and Islam wiped out many civilizations, it is only Judaism and Hinduism that stood up to these bullies, unfortunately holocaust receives the due media cover but the hindu genocide which happened for more than 12 centuries is ignored and even washed off by the global powers intentionally.
When they are singing God's song, at 7:14, it looked like I am watching hindus doing aarti( prayer by singing) in Temple! It look so same! Fascinating!
with all due respect the jews of India still got cemeteries and tomb stone wonder if that askanzi jew can find traces in Europe or were they all cremated by the nazi she should learn I CRIED CAUSE I HAD NO SHOES BUT THEN I SAW A MAN WITH NO FEET I cried cause I saw a Jewish cemetery in India in dereliction but then I met a jew from Europe and he had no cemetery or Graves if his Jewish ancestors
Best message bro. However I am happy to inform you that now things have changed. Congress party who was champion of Muslim appeasement is now out of power. Not only Jews but even Hindus were also not neglected in their regime. Modi in power right now, he is doing a lot for Jews people. In 2018 Jews were given religious minority status in India and also has been doing a lot of other things for their welfare. Now under Modi rule India-Israel has much more strong relation with Israel as well.
Sha'ar Harachamim was built in honour to Hashem by 2 brothers held prisioner who vowed that if released by Tipu Sultan in the war of Mysore they would build a Synagogue in thanks,Samuel Hasaji Diveker and his brother, inaugurated it in 1796, their living relatives are in Israel and London, there are hundreds of great grandchildren in Israel, A fantastic video,
Fox Trot - You've said it all ! Shalom and thank you 👍✌🕊🕊 God bless Israel, the Jews of Israel and the people of India for embracing the Jews for centuries ✌🕊
Yoseph Navgaonkar could be from my village where there boat was sinked close to Alibag and they kept the surname of village Navgaonkar belongs from the place name Navgaon..
I remember back in 1997 my late Guruji wrote me a letter and said He was trying to find similarities between "Hinduism" and Christianity and was having difficulty. So I sent my late Guruji the Tanakh (commentary of the Torah) that was presented to me on the day of my Bar Mitzvah. I told my Guruji that once He read the Tanakh that He would see that the Sanatana Dharma (Hinduism) and Judaism are similar bordering on identical in many ways extending to Scriptures, philosophies, even family culture. I believe a decade had past before the first "Hindu Jewish Religious Summit" was held. When I visit India again I shall have to stop at some of the places in this video.
Pradip Anchan Nope, not all countries. In Poland, for example, "motherland" and "fatherland" are interchangeable, and I've only ever heard Germany called "fatherland". Since Israel is named after a man, I would think one should use the masculine title.
Erudito otidurE Apart from all these facts... I think Motherland title perfect for a Country... Coz when we see Mankind & Even Animal kingdom... Mother is a more dedicated parent than a Father!!!
Pradip Anchan Well, I agree that motherland works better in general, but when you say "mothers are more dedicated"...in the case of Mankind, that's kind of a generalization, and in the animal kingdom, it only holds for some species. In Ratites and Seahorses, the father is typically more devoted, in some monkeys, both parents are equally devoted, and in most fish, reptiles, and amphibians, neither parent is dedicated in the slightest. And again, Israel was a man. Imagine a country named after a man named Frank being referred to as "mother Frank".
I am ashamed to see the Jewish cemetery in my country preserved so horribly... I think we should raise our voices and let the government know this is unacceptable
Their jaws must have dropped looking at the dire state of the cemetery! But they can take consolation from the fact that their brethren were never mistreated here.....hell, those of them who went to Israel dont get treated as well......
This is old video of 2007. It's more than one decade now. Hopefully things have changed. I am not in Mumbai but whenever I will be there I will visit this place and make a video on this.
Sadly, now even Jewish people too have grown racist, there are few pubs and restaurant in India where they don't want Indian people to come. I think there's one in Himachal Pradesh.
That is definitely not Panvel railway station Its some other station. Maybe some of the major junctions. CST or some other. The scene after that was Khandeshwar station.
WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT BEING A HINDU? By Francois Gautier. *Diversity in Divinity and Unity in Spirituality.* 1) Believe in God ! - Aastik - Accepted 2) Don't believe in God ! - You're accepted as Nastik 3) You want to worship idols - please go ahead. You are a murti pujak. 4) You dont want to worship idols - no problem. You can focus on Nirguna Brahman. 5) You want to criticise something in our religion. Come forward. We are logical. Nyaya, Tarka etc. are core Hindu schools. 6) You want to accept beliefs as it is. Most welcome. Please go ahead with it. 7) You want to start your journey by reading Bhagvad Gita - Sure ! 8) You want to start your journey by reading Upanishads - Go ahead. 9) You want to start your journey by reading Purana - Be my guest. 10) You just don't like reading Puranas or other books. No problem my dear. Go by Bhakti tradition . ( bhakti- devotion) 11) You don't like idea of Bhakti ! No problem. Do your Karma. Be a karmayogi. 12) You want to enjoy life. Very good. No problem at all. This is Charvaka Philosophy. 13) You want to abstain from all the enjoyment of life & find God - jai ho ! Be a Sadhu, an ascetic ! 14) You don't like the concept of God. You believe in Nature only - Welcome. (Trees are our friends and Prakriti or nature is worthy of worship). 15) You believe in one God or Supreme Energy. Superb! Follow Advaita philosophy 16) You want a Guru. Go ahead. Receive gyaan. 17) You don't want a Guru.. Help yourself ! Meditate, Study ! 18) You believe in Female energy ! Shakti is worshipped. 19) You believe that every human being is equal. Yeah! You're awesome, come on let's celebrate Hinduism! "Vasudhaiva kutumbakam" (the world is a family) 20) You don't have time to celebrate the festival. Don't worry. One more festival is coming! There are multiple festivals every single day of the year. 21) You are a working person. Don't have time for religion. Its okay. You will still be a Hindu. 22) You like to go to temples. Devotion is loved. 23) You don't like to go to temples - no problem. You are still a Hindu! 24) You know that Hinduism is a way of life, with considerable freedom. 25) You believe that everything has God in it. So you worship your mother, father, guru, tree, River, Prani-matra, Earth, Universe! 26) And If you don't believe that everything has GOD in it - No problems. Respect your viewpoint. 27) "Sarve jana sukhino bhavantu " (May you all live happily) You represent this! You're free to choose, my dear Hindu! This is exactly the essence of Hinduism, all inclusive .. That is why it has withstood the test of time inspite of repeated onslaught both from within and outside, and assimilated every good aspects from everything . That is why it is eternal !!! There is a saying in Rigveda , the first book ever known to mankind which depicts the Hinduism philosophy in a Nutshell -" Ano bhadrah Krathavo Yanthu Vishwathah"- Let the knowledge come to us from every directions..
There's one correction I wish is done here...the station shown is named as 'Panvel' while it is the Mumbai CST station. Other than the filth and old cars shown, it would have been better the modern face, which comprises 80 per cent of Mumbai is shown. Filth is also in NY.
For those really interested in finding jewish genetic groups you can check them at Plos one, otherwise it will be thought of as "possible but not in its reality"! We harbor few but significant ones, K to U8a (Khazaria), J1 Baghdad Iraq, (ha Gadi - first exile into Assyria), Tunisinia/Livorne/Iran H14, and others including exit from West Africa, Borneo-Hadraumat and a magnificent display of West Bengal/Monyul.
ok!! my wifes mothers mother mother. thats graat grandmother came from Mumbai, her surname was Joseph. My wifes Grand Mother, said, " my people came from mesopotamia, to portugal, to India to Trinidad. The do several things that are very jewish and didn't take part in any hindu festivals. ( checking eggs for blood ) no shell fish no pork! how do I research geneology, perhaps I can find relatives of hers?
Namashkar. All Jewish. Parivar. Yek. Mukya. Vishay. Kyahe. Biufor. 3800. Years. Hindus. And. Ehodi. Yezid. All In One. Family. One Religion. Barath Mathki Jai Hind
A PLEA :- I wish Jews from world over create a jewish tourism circuit in India - a narrative of whole of 2.5 K years since jews visited their brothers and sisters from another mother called India... and represent the 7 waves of Jews migration for over 2K years... And possibly also expand that to global tourism circuit to cover points when Indians faught and almost 4-5 million warriors gave their bloods in WW1 and WW2... Brits supressed Indian martyrdom in WW1 and WW2 and stole the limelight, as expected though...
If you want to see the Jewish heritage go towards Malabar. The cochin jews are the oldest jewish community in the country. These paradeshi jews from sefard does not have any heritage here as they claim to be. The oldest Christian community in India , The Nasrani Christians are from The Malabari Jews. 2000+ year old heritage goes back towards King Solomon and you come to a paradeshi who came during Spanish inquisition..
One crimiatary have in may village chirner Uran More than 40 houses were in my village But Nobody is living here they left our village they went to Panvel then Israeli
Are the Jews safe in mumbai ???? Mumbai city in the state of Maharashtra has the highest crimes Maximum Human trafficking takes place here according to the Indian crime records of every Indian city
I ❤ LOVE ISRAEL AND JEWISH PEOPLE. SPREAD JEWISH RELIGIOUS IN INDIA. OTHERWISE YOU WILL BECOME VERY LESS IN INDIA. EXTREMIST, RADICAL ISLAM AND ISLAMIC TERRORISM ARE SPREADING VERY FAST IN INDIA.
India has suffered many conquests, subjugation, colonial rules and barbarism for many centuries creating poverty and lack of basic facilities, yet the people of India accepted those seeking refuge and shared whatever meager means they were surviving on. May Lord God bless the Jewish people and the nation and people of India for protecting and living in such amazing harmony and friendship for not decades, but centuries. Live, prosper and thrive.
Shalom and Namaste.
We like Jews; they are very beautiful people.
not only Jews, all people though some of ours turned against us under the influence of alien cultures and wreaked havoc on us but no more!!!!
May be as a nation we are poor but by heart we are rich and proud of all of my Jews brothers and sisters living in India.
I have lived in Panvel all my life and even went to the synagogue. But I was never aware of the significance it holds neither I knew about the cementry. Seeing my city from a decade earlier really makes me nostalgic.
Aishwarya Narangikar :- cementry is almost gone now bcoz of illegal constructions.
u haven't here about Israeli lake?? it is next to cementry.
Born and bought up in Panvel, I was aware of the synagogue but not about the cemetery. Need to visit and check it out.
Me too have lived in Panvel my entire life, but only knew about Israeli Talav, cuz its near the highway. Did not know about synagogue or cemetery. There didn't seem anything like cemetery near lake.
I've been to the synagogue in Cochin, Kerala, India. It was very nice.
My Panchayath mala old Jewish community Area. Near Paravur Chendamangalam.
Brothers and sisters of Israel always Welcome here in India..
All my Israeli Brothers and Sisters are always welcome in India. India is as much yours as ours and feel free to come and do visit us... With Love from India..
I have enough money Wen Chu . I am a satisfied Indian. Thanks
Tell that to the people in China that work all day in factorys like Robots ,work all day-16 hours -And get almost nothing, Great country,
u are a pokistani dude ; dont try to fool people by your name
GAURAV Kumar terirst India
Wen Chu China jealous of India..! whole world hate China now.
Jews are passionate about their religion. That's one consistent observation no matter where you see them.
It goes the same way with Hinduism, it is this resilience which led to the holocaust, christianity and Islam wiped out many civilizations, it is only Judaism and Hinduism that stood up to these bullies, unfortunately holocaust receives the due media cover but the hindu genocide which happened for more than 12 centuries is ignored and even washed off by the global powers intentionally.
Schneider Heathers. but hindus dont pray on daily bases for us there no rules we shall follow
Schneider Heathers. and about islam in india ,muslims have integrated with us so well that they have main roles in our religious rituals
@@MyKamble don't lie you are a buddhist.
Hindu always love jewis community 💗
We love Jews people,. They have reputation and they have earned respect in the world. Indian always stand with Israel.
We need to revive our Jewish heritage in India. Also, strengthen ties with Israel.
Bro govt should effert.
Madam ji a aapka naam aisa kaisa hai.😒
When they are singing God's song, at 7:14, it looked like I am watching hindus doing aarti( prayer by singing) in Temple!
It look so same! Fascinating!
תודה רבה...
jews are very good ppl and I love and respect jews,,god bless israel
with all due respect the jews of India still got cemeteries and tomb stone wonder if that askanzi jew can find traces in Europe or were they all cremated by the nazi she should learn
I CRIED CAUSE I HAD NO SHOES BUT THEN I SAW A MAN WITH NO FEET
I cried cause I saw a Jewish cemetery in India in dereliction but then I met a jew from Europe and he had no cemetery or Graves if his Jewish ancestors
nice to see life amongst the graves.. graves not destroyed... children playing on my tummy.. nice thought.!!!
Best message bro. However I am happy to inform you that now things have changed. Congress party who was champion of Muslim appeasement is now out of power. Not only Jews but even Hindus were also not neglected in their regime. Modi in power right now, he is doing a lot for Jews people. In 2018 Jews were given religious minority status in India and also has been doing a lot of other things for their welfare.
Now under Modi rule India-Israel has much more strong relation with Israel as well.
Sha'ar Harachamim was built in honour to Hashem by 2 brothers held prisioner who vowed that if released by Tipu Sultan in the war of Mysore they would build a Synagogue in thanks,Samuel Hasaji Diveker and his brother, inaugurated it in 1796, their living relatives are in Israel and London, there are hundreds of great grandchildren in Israel, A fantastic video,
Fox Trot - You've said it all ! Shalom and thank you 👍✌🕊🕊
God bless Israel, the Jews of Israel and the people of India for embracing the Jews for centuries ✌🕊
Lots of good wish nd love for jews community from India's brahmn community...
I am from 2023. Jews are most welcome in India. The whole world is one big family😊
Nice Mumbai ❤best city love 😙😙Israel..india..🌷🇮🇱🇮🇳👍
Pray god help yall build better housing and get great things god bless
מאוד מעניין ,כצבר ליוצאי בני ישראל בארץ זה מרגש!!!
Yoseph Navgaonkar could be from my village where there boat was sinked close to Alibag and they kept the surname of village Navgaonkar belongs from the place name Navgaon..
We want more Israeli diaspora in India. Welcome you all
There is no space for the dead - except the great
I remember back in 1997 my late Guruji wrote me a letter and said He was trying to find similarities between "Hinduism" and Christianity and was having difficulty. So I sent my late Guruji the Tanakh (commentary of the Torah) that was presented to me on the day of my Bar Mitzvah. I told my Guruji that once He read the Tanakh that He would see that the Sanatana Dharma (Hinduism) and Judaism are similar bordering on identical in many ways extending to Scriptures, philosophies, even family culture. I believe a decade had past before the first "Hindu Jewish Religious Summit" was held. When I visit India again I shall have to stop at some of the places in this video.
removing shoes is way to respect and keep premises clean vande matram
Welcome to India madam love from India to jew brothers and to Israel
i love Israel ....
Hail Mother Israel :)
Shouldn't it be "Father" Israel, since it's the name of a man?
Erudito otidurE Every country is know as a Mother... Coz it's a Motherland to it's Citizens.
Pradip Anchan Nope, not all countries. In Poland, for example, "motherland" and "fatherland" are interchangeable, and I've only ever heard Germany called "fatherland". Since Israel is named after a man, I would think one should use the masculine title.
Erudito otidurE Apart from all these facts... I think Motherland title perfect for a Country... Coz when we see Mankind & Even Animal kingdom... Mother is a more dedicated parent than a Father!!!
Pradip Anchan Well, I agree that motherland works better in general, but when you say "mothers are more dedicated"...in the case of Mankind, that's kind of a generalization, and in the animal kingdom, it only holds for some species. In Ratites and Seahorses, the father is typically more devoted, in some monkeys, both parents are equally devoted, and in most fish, reptiles, and amphibians, neither parent is dedicated in the slightest.
And again, Israel was a man. Imagine a country named after a man named Frank being referred to as "mother Frank".
beautiful
I am ashamed to see the Jewish cemetery in my country preserved so horribly... I think we should raise our voices and let the government know this is unacceptable
terroriat ban ja isis join kar nahi toh hamas join kar waise vo Iraeli jews ko mar rah hai
tarun1982 their is a huge jew graveyard in pune.. well preserved..
biggest synegaug out side isrial is in pune..
.. that's depend on them..not too much can be for another reason
I hope yazidis also get to live a good life.
Their jaws must have dropped looking at the dire state of the cemetery! But they can take consolation from the fact that their brethren were never mistreated here.....hell, those of them who went to Israel dont get treated as well......
Feeling sad after seeing the graves in bad conditions, all the graves should be restored and respected accordingly to the religion.
This is old video of 2007. It's more than one decade now. Hopefully things have changed. I am not in Mumbai but whenever I will be there I will visit this place and make a video on this.
Shabbat shalom
Hindu ❤️ jews
Sadly, now even Jewish people too have grown racist, there are few pubs and restaurant in India where they don't want Indian people to come. I think there's one in Himachal Pradesh.
Thomas King clearly you haven't heard of William pierce and his analysis on the Talmud.
it's beautiful actually that Indian kids are playing over the graves and gravestone of the jews.
Those are God's angel.
Shalom
That is definitely not Panvel railway station Its some other station. Maybe some of the major junctions. CST or some other. The scene after that was Khandeshwar station.
I live in Khanda Colony and always use Khandeshwar Station. Was glad to see the old station before the newer construction once again.
Bandra,goregaon,santacruz ,khar,mahim,dadar east,west mumbai ,metro
Thank you ,mumbai central hotels,shops ,taxi
I will try to preserve the hibrue cemetery.
Madhuri Pradhan - Thank you 🕊
WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT BEING A HINDU?
By Francois Gautier.
*Diversity in Divinity and Unity in Spirituality.*
1) Believe in God ! - Aastik - Accepted
2) Don't believe in God ! - You're accepted as Nastik
3) You want to worship idols - please go ahead. You are a murti pujak.
4) You dont want to worship idols - no problem. You can focus on Nirguna Brahman.
5) You want to criticise something in our religion. Come forward. We are logical. Nyaya, Tarka etc. are core Hindu schools.
6) You want to accept beliefs as it is. Most welcome. Please go ahead with it.
7) You want to start your journey by reading Bhagvad Gita - Sure !
8) You want to start your journey by reading Upanishads - Go ahead.
9) You want to start your journey by reading Purana - Be my guest.
10) You just don't like reading Puranas or other books. No problem my dear. Go by Bhakti tradition . ( bhakti- devotion)
11) You don't like idea of Bhakti ! No problem. Do your Karma. Be a karmayogi.
12) You want to enjoy life. Very good. No problem at all. This is Charvaka Philosophy.
13) You want to abstain from all the enjoyment of life & find God - jai ho ! Be a Sadhu, an ascetic !
14) You don't like the concept of God. You believe in Nature only - Welcome. (Trees are our friends and Prakriti or nature is worthy of worship).
15) You believe in one God or Supreme Energy. Superb! Follow Advaita philosophy
16) You want a Guru. Go ahead. Receive gyaan.
17) You don't want a Guru.. Help yourself ! Meditate, Study !
18) You believe in Female energy ! Shakti is worshipped.
19) You believe that every human being is equal. Yeah! You're awesome, come on let's celebrate Hinduism!
"Vasudhaiva kutumbakam" (the world is a family)
20) You don't have time to celebrate the festival.
Don't worry. One more festival is coming! There are multiple festivals every single day of the year.
21) You are a working person. Don't have time for religion. Its okay. You will still be a Hindu.
22) You like to go to temples. Devotion is loved.
23) You don't like to go to temples - no problem. You are still a Hindu!
24) You know that Hinduism is a way of life, with considerable freedom.
25) You believe that everything has God in it. So you worship your mother, father, guru, tree, River, Prani-matra, Earth, Universe!
26) And If you don't believe that everything has GOD in it - No problems. Respect your viewpoint.
27) "Sarve jana sukhino bhavantu " (May you all live happily)
You represent this! You're free to choose, my dear Hindu!
This is exactly the essence of Hinduism, all inclusive .. That is why it has withstood the test of time inspite of repeated onslaught both from within and outside, and assimilated every good aspects from everything . That is why it is eternal !!!
There is a saying in Rigveda , the first book ever known to mankind which depicts the Hinduism philosophy in a Nutshell -" Ano bhadrah Krathavo Yanthu Vishwathah"- Let the knowledge come to us from every directions..
SHALOM
Beautiful Synagogues in India are located at Kolkata .. those are now maintained by ASI
There's one correction I wish is done here...the station shown is named as 'Panvel' while it is the Mumbai CST station. Other than the filth and old cars shown, it would have been better the modern face, which comprises 80 per cent of Mumbai is shown. Filth is also in NY.
ramdas kamal....=love all true jewish people...shoe fits wear it...
For those really interested in finding jewish genetic groups you can check them at Plos one, otherwise it will be thought of as "possible but not in its reality"! We harbor few but significant ones, K to U8a (Khazaria), J1 Baghdad Iraq, (ha Gadi - first exile into Assyria), Tunisinia/Livorne/Iran H14, and others including exit from West Africa, Borneo-Hadraumat and a magnificent display of West Bengal/Monyul.
ok!! my wifes mothers mother mother. thats graat grandmother came from Mumbai, her surname was Joseph. My wifes Grand Mother, said, " my people came from mesopotamia, to portugal, to India to Trinidad. The do several things that are very jewish and didn't take part in any hindu festivals. ( checking eggs for blood ) no shell fish no pork! how do I research geneology, perhaps I can find relatives of hers?
Please Indian Jews stay in India Do not migrate Israel.
India is poor and 3rd world but our hearts is big.
It's Kerala
hindu loves jews :D
ACTUAL ISRAEL THEY ARE ROMANS DESENDANTSMURDERERS, BE CAREFUL
Rakesh Sahoo because fucking Hindu and Yehudi are same
kazi rahman I’m Jewish and I 100 percent support your message
Namashkar. All Jewish. Parivar. Yek. Mukya. Vishay. Kyahe. Biufor. 3800. Years. Hindus. And. Ehodi. Yezid. All In One. Family. One Religion. Barath Mathki Jai Hind
A PLEA :- I wish Jews from world over create a jewish tourism circuit in India - a narrative of whole of 2.5 K years since jews visited their brothers and sisters from another mother called India... and represent the 7 waves of Jews migration for over 2K years...
And possibly also expand that to global tourism circuit to cover points when Indians faught and almost 4-5 million warriors gave their bloods in WW1 and WW2... Brits supressed Indian martyrdom in WW1 and WW2 and stole the limelight, as expected though...
Exodus 13:9
Sorry Eli 😢. Guess there is very little we can do about the graves and gravestones of Mattancherry
שלום מה שלומכם✡️
If you want to see the Jewish heritage go towards Malabar.
The cochin jews are the oldest jewish community in the country. These paradeshi jews from sefard does not have any heritage here as they claim to be.
The oldest Christian community in India , The Nasrani Christians are from The Malabari Jews. 2000+ year old heritage goes back towards King Solomon and you come to a paradeshi who came during Spanish inquisition..
what is masa
masa means journey in hebrew
formulaone07 ohh "Yatra" ok👍
नमस्ते।।
One crimiatary have in may village chirner Uran More than 40 houses were in my village But Nobody is living here they left our village they went to Panvel then Israeli
Are the Jews safe in mumbai ????
Mumbai city in the state of Maharashtra has the highest crimes
Maximum Human trafficking takes place here according to the Indian crime records of every Indian city
Indisrael
I ❤ LOVE ISRAEL AND JEWISH PEOPLE. SPREAD JEWISH RELIGIOUS IN INDIA. OTHERWISE YOU WILL BECOME VERY LESS IN INDIA. EXTREMIST, RADICAL ISLAM AND ISLAMIC TERRORISM ARE SPREADING VERY FAST IN INDIA.
Crazy 🤪 girl 👧 😜
I heath jewsh I am really looking no jwish
No bhoghamn no bealif
Jews can also be clannish and racist. So no need to be very opti. They are like marwaris
Indisrael