New Tesla Model Y “JUNIPER” wish list after 4,500 miles with Model 3 “Highland”
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- Опубліковано 4 бер 2024
- I’ve now covered 4,500 miles in the new 2024 Model 3 Highland Long Range in just 1 month and it gives me a good flavour of what to expect with the forthcoming 2024, maybe 2025 Tesla Model Y - code named “Juniper” (not Jupiter!)
Here’s a list of things I’d love to see as Tesla finish development of this new car. Not that my opinion will count for much or translate into actual modifications or change of plan, but it’s what I think could perfect it. Can almost count as a “roast my ride” of the Highland really.
But take in context, the cars are great. Really, the best EVs out there in most contexts but still, 9.5 out of 10 means there’s a few little things that would be awesome to see in the New Model Y which would make it just about the perfect Electric family car.
Let me know what you’d love to see featured in the new Y in the comments below!
Thanks for watching.
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That doll hand is cracking me up. 😂😂 so random
Got that from Mr Furze!
Wait, are you saying that wasn't his own hand ?!
Made me think of the doll in Beerfest 😂
thought it was his daughters then had to do a double take, chucky?
Agree with the rain sensor, it’s so frustrating
Elon hates sensors (because they cost money) so I wouldn't be surprised if rain sensors are gone completely in favor of cameras.
Tesla Model Y Juniper, nice to have,
1) adjustable air suspension as an option.
2) 4 wheel steering as an option. The turning radius of the Model Y is not great.
3) 400v/48v with ultrafast charging would be great.
4) A Heads Up Display would work wonders.
Making Gerry Anderson proud with that hand!
360 camera, HUD, HD radar and keep the stalks
Don’t forget Apple CarPlay! 😁
@@just8bits29 LOL, that's never going to come to our cars as long as Elon stays CEO, I would like to though, together with Android Auto for our Android friends.
@@cristianionascuagreed, they’re never going to add CarPlay. If I recall they even removed the ability to use a wired connection to pass audio from the usb ports on the center console. I believe it is still possible through the glovebox usb connection intended for sentry mode.
No HUD
@@cristianionascuthere’s another UA-camr who introduced an interesting perspective. It’s like Robert rosenfield or something-he mentioned that it seems possible because of their integration of Apple Podcasts and Apple Music. Now that Apple has discontinued their EV as a competitor, he claims that this may now make it more likely for Tesla to work on putting CarPlay on their cars.
Richard, you as always, are on point!
Utter.y disagree with you about the MY Suspension Richard… I LOVE the stiff ride.
Illumination of door handles, bumper camera, all camera recording, Carplay.. V2G would be awesome
Make sure it has stalks for gods sake!
It was quite interesting to see you point out all the issues with the current models. Thank you for being honest about them.
or make it an option for extra money
Heads up, stalks and some quick access buttons, sorted, now that wasn’t hard was it???
I think to get 5 stars in 2026 they may have to bring back stalks and buttons for basic often used functions.
Stalks, bring back stalks or watch sales take a dip. I won't be buying a car without the stalks/better controls. Proper rain sensor - check. Parking sensors with 360 cameras - still needed. Fix phantom braking - Tesla is a tech company right? Only been years and they are still slamming on the brakes. Blind spot monitoring put that alert in the mirrors and make it very obvious. This LED they are using for blind spot monitoring sucks. Door handle light, how complicated is this? Remove the rear display on the base trim. It will just end up broke if you have small kids and pets. Trim levels would be fine so you can opt for stuff you want. Good points on the Y cargo cover.
Tesla is like the Ford with the Model T. You can get it in any color you want as long as it is black... Still think the older car front end looks better than the refresh. Rear end looks better on the refresh.
At this point in North America I think people are going to wait to see the NACS equipped cars/trucks and new models start to be announced. Unless you just have to have a car now the competition is getting better and they will still offer stalks and the tech that has been around for a decade or more in most cars. Just saw the Ioniq 5 2025 model leaks and it looks like it will be much improved. Just a glimpse of good things coming. Tesla chargers are finally opening up for other EV owners.
one of the first things i did with my MYLR is to buy a tray for the front centre console storage - has felt lining and a special sun glasses divider - also mean coins etc aren't rattling around in the large main compartment underneath....
I want MORE of everything for LESS money. I'm just a silly consumer. But in reality, I only want an LFP battery, V2H charging, a real surround view, and for god's sake Tesla MORE color options.
I’m pleased you mentioned a tiltable display; I removed mine from my Y a week prior to selling and it was a noticeable downgrade.
I’ve switched to an Enyaq until the Juniper comes out to minimise my losses when selling the Model Y. The Enyaq is my first car with a heads-up display and I’m finding it to be exceptionally useful, so much so I’ve started to look for after market HUDs to go in the Juniper when inevitably buy one!
How's the Tesla vision perform with salted roads, rain/dirt/snow? Living in Scotland my reversing camera is unusable after a 30 min drive in winter. Scared Tesla vision would be rendered useless on the back
What about a flux capacitor?
2028 Roadster V-TOL. Start saving.
Steer by wire and 48 volt architecture please
And V2G
If they keep the no stalk rule put the indicators buttons on both sides of the wheel (left turn on the left and right turn on the right)
that would require two hands, the worst thing about the highland design is the left/right indicators are above/below each other, so unintuitive
Richard's Christmas wish list, haha
Make a van version please Elon.
Love your videos Richard, found you from CarWow link and very glad I did. You make the best EV content out there!!
Agreed but keep stalks and rear wiper please. 🙏
I really love to think Elon is actually watching this one :D And I have to say I agree with most of these points. However, I do not agree that there should be trim levels. I love the simplicity that Tesla represents, and when you buy a long-range car you know you get all the good stuff and there is nothing extra to add!
In reality (at least in the UK) base spec models are only there to have a low price point to advertise, sales volumes of base models tend to be small, especially if you take away the rental fleets
Make an estate version flat at the back like a Volvo so even more actual use able boot space, then could be used as a van.
Ditto. I have had 2003 and 2007 Nissan X-Trails, last of the practical and attractive boxy SUVs, Land Rover Discovery and new excellent KIA EV9 excepted. I have a Y and it is doing us fine for shopping, luggage and my RC plane hobby, but a square back means you can put, uhm, rectangular things in the back, such as furniture, white goods etc. But then not so good aerodynamics, so my guess is that to compliment Tesla's current line up, an Avant like stretched 3 or Y would make sense, as you say, like an older Volvo. When not used for transporting big things, it would have 3 rows of seats and space in the smaller back area for shopping, Labrador, luggage etc. A 3P Avant would give the Audio S8 Avant a run for it's money on the A27 or Autobahn if over there...
Or just an f'in hatchback
@@80y3r9 but the Y is hatch back in theory, I drive a volvo xc70 and as the back end is flat I have maximum usable boot, they all seem to build estates that are sweeping back like audi vw skoda that give good letterage but not sq volume.
@@GudieveNing The T31 X-trail is absolutely fantastic, why they ever got rid of the under boot drawers was beyond me. The only downside was the lack of room in the back seats, but the boot is massive!
Needs another seal near the bottom of the door to keep out road dirt
Great vid, Richard.
Richie, this is a great review!!
Excellent real world review.
You've got a lot of great ideas for improvement.
Tesla would be wise to listen to you.
Love the door handle illumination idea.
Must have a power frunk!
You asking for everything what Nio has but that is premium car
Another great video Richard, thanks
I tried Y a week a ago (right side traffic) and I was amazed to notice that there is no way to stretch the left leg. There is no space between the break pedal and the wheel arch. I wonder why nobody mentions this ergonomics issue. Apart from that parking sensors are a must ( front camera will be constantly dirty), 360 vision, panoramic roof blinds, stalks are the minimum. HUD should be available as well, it’s kind of standard today, at least as an option.
Charge port light please
Brilliant feedback Richard.
Gooday, Thank you, I like your comments and are enthusiastic for you to suggest the rear sub trunk(boot) be😊 shaped to enable it to accommodate a spare tyre like the Modern Spare
All the suggestions are so well thought out. 👍
V2G , wirelless traction battery charging, load cover like a Mazda CX5 and official extras ( HUD, tilt monitor support, customizable shortcut buttons , WAZE support)
Voice control of all the vehicle functions that you might want/need to adjust while driving. Especially voice control of the headlights and fog lights. And an option to specify a range/battery percentage at the end of a journey to support driving to a desto without chargers.
The new suspension on the MY23/24 is great. Coming from a new Land Rover with air suspension it’s very close to as good. Very pleased with it.
Is it worth having Waze support if it means losing the supercharger network integration? If you use a non-Tesla nav system how will it handle preconditioning etc. it is unlikely that the two can be easily integrated
I’m happy with my Y as it is, even my auto wipers work.
Likewise.
Which day? 3rd Wednesday every October? ;)
You have done more miles in a month than I have in my Y in 1 year !
A rain sensor, rear door manual levers (passengers do not need to figure out how to disassemble door pocket to exit vehicle in a timely manner) 🔥
Heated/cooled cupholders, adjustable opaqueness to the pan roof
Heated Cupholders 😲
My Old Ford focus has an air conditioned glovebox , great for drinks .
The little hand 4:02 🤣
100% agreed with you Richard.
Lol @ the hand 😂
Love your reviews Richard. We too are holding back for the new versions with the improvements you mention. We are looking at the RWD version with hopefully improved range , better wipers, better looking wheel covers ,
Test drove the 3 last week - no stalks: no problem! Really easy to adjust to the new controls.
Edward.. exactly ✅
Richard I agree with allot of them thing you said cheers guys
Agree with all those points, I love our MY but my improvements would be:
1. WIPERS! never pressed that button so much ever in any other car.
2. Rear passengers complain about hard ride - we have massive pot holes (council do nothing - standard UK)
3. Front parking vision very very poor - need a repaint on our bumper thanks to a barrier in France
4. Boot needs cargo strap points - it’s so big the dog crate moves - had to secure it with Velcro
5. Charging flap needs to be available to open for longer after parking - after getting cable from frunk car locks and have to mess around in app or open a door to open flap whilst holding the cable (first world problem) - I’ll except David mode for this like Joe mode 😂
You know there's a button on your charging cable ??😅 push this the flap opens
Just press the flap
Richard, have you gotten used to navigating in and out of roundabouts with the new indicator switches? I have test driven the Highland, and thought it was almost impossible to do. Have you gotten used to that or?
What Tesla model do you own?
@@_nosikeuzoma1456 None yet, but I really didn't like the indicator buttons on my test drive. Was just wondering if it was something, that was easily learned.
@@Gonza1000 yeah you can easily learn it
It’s not difficult to learn at all
How many have you test driven?
@@_nosikeuzoma1456 Only the Highland so far. Biggest issue was the small roundabouts.
Suspension re-tuning likely adds no cost- done! Scrap the rear LCD and use the cost savings to:
1) return the steering wheel stalks; and
2) add front camera for ultimate precision in Parking Assist, and perhaps the elusive “birds-eye view” that has come to be a fundamental expectation in a new tech automobile.
So pretty much the MY needs to catch up with Merc/Beemers etc.
Our MY is OK - but falls well short of our EQC in terms of comfort, quietness, and physical controls.
The MY does win though, on space in the cabin and boot, range, and of course access to the supercharger network.
In every other way, with the Merc having 360 cameras, proper parking sensors (and will self park if you can be bothered - far quicker to do it yourself), working auto wipers, matrix headlights, Apple CarPlay, comfy seats, silent cabin, great ride comfort, HUD, and high quality materials - the Merc is always our wagon of choice - unless we need the supercharger network.
1. A working rain sensor, 100%. I had a 2003 BMW with a rain sensor that actually worked! How can we trust Tesla will make a car that can self drive when you can't even get a rain sensor to work!
Stalkless seems a given, so how about reconfiguring the steering wheel controls so that the left indicator is on the left hand side of the wheel and the right indicator on the right. Makes more sense than having them set vertically.
It could be made to always stay on the left or right depending on the steering angle ,can't go wrong then👍
I would like to see a HUD, 360 view camera (including front bumper camera), and LCD rear view mirror.
Thanks Richard. Reduce turning circle to less than 11.5m. Reduce the width of Y to same as Model 3, so its easier to go through 6 foot 6 inch and 7 foot width restrictions, as well as park.
I think the HUD, optional stalks and self presenting illuminated handles are needed...spot on! Lets HOPE they listen 😅
Ventilated seats, redesigned partial shelf and matrix lights.
Some people may think Richard is being petty but the things he mentioned have existed in much cheaper gas car for years so not even giving people the option to have at least some of them by providing optional trim levels is ridiculous.
Funny enough the head rest matter in the seats is a major thing for me because of the way I position myself to be comfortable when I drive. An adjustable head rest is a MUST for me in any car. I have driven cars without it, it has been a big problem for me every single time
They will need to keep the stalks to get a 5 star rating from 2026!
Kerb resistant alloys, chip resistant paint, HUD, more buttons, decent lumbar support (I've moved away from Tesla to a Genesis)
12:40 There was a short-lived standard range with AWD, the 4860 Model Y out of Austin
Geeat Video! Agree with all points (except don't need Carplay :) but for me most important would be air suspension (option at least), front camera and front and rear camera washers (here in Finland the rear camera of my Tesla is useless in winter).
The seats ! they need to be a smidge bigger !
The stalks being removed I feel is all part of the long term plan. Steer by wire will come to all cars and you won't have to turn the wheel so much so the button placement won't be an issue going around roundabouts.
Sorry but that makes no sense. Steer by wire isn’t here. Why implement something that may work when the thing that may make it work isn’t actually in place. Absolute stupidity.
@@Sam-tx1tn oh I'm not saying it's the right or correct thing to do. I just think they're making slow changes to work to big changes. They're Americans so roundabout difficulties aren't such an issue for them so this is a little step change.
Good vid. Good list of improvements. Re-gen paddles behind the steering wheel is the one you missed. It will never happen as they are getting rid of all steering wheel addenda! Surprised the Highland Model 3 is now 1 pedal only with no choice of "creep" etc for reversing etc.
The general build quality around the hatch needs improvement - I’ve never known a boot lid to creak so much
Agree with all these observations. Having said that, have recently changed from a Model Y to a BMW ix1 for work reasons and there is no area that matters to me where the ix1 resoundingly beats the Tesla (ride comfort in the ix1 is marginally better but still firm). For range, efficiency, in car tech, charging, space and performance, the model Y wins hands down. Hoping to get my hands on a Juniper MY soon.
Great Video :-)
Well you go have some really suggestions, nice and indeed it just makes the even better. In countries with lots of roundabouts you definitely need stocks. All the best from the Netherlands
don't worry about the stalks, they will be coming back, the only thing the current Model Y lacks is a physical SOS button. the changes on euro NCAP rules will ensure this
Rear parcel shelf should be a removeable spring-loaded roll-up type as others such as Volkswagen Golf etc have.
Lit door handles - light under the mirrors is aways good.
360 camera. Works a treat in the BYD Atto 3 and Seal.
HUD that can be turned off for those "minimalists" out there.
Variable regen braking using a slider control from no regen to one pedal mode.
Personally, I can live without Android auto as it tends to take over too much control and is hard to tame when you don't want to use it, other than messing in the phone settings to stop it auto loading.
11:43 while you’re in the boot… since the 7-seater option is not available out side the US, can you remove the padded ridge in the middle between the sub-boot and the space where the 2nd row would fit. This would allow a space saver to be laid flat without me having to do a hatchet job on the boot liner.
Ability to indicate left/right using voice commands
Screens on the headrest for a 40k car? Dream about it 😀
Most of the suggestions you mentioned are available as standard or as options on other cars (EV's).
Tesla are cutting their cars right back to the bare bones, so when you say 'It's not difficult', or ' it's not too much extra cost to do this', when Tesla are stripping out stalks and sensors to save a few £ / $'s - it's never going to happen !
Quicksilver colour for European market
Quicksilver (and Midnight Cherry Red) are European only as they come from Berlin. I saw quite a few Quicksilver Model Y on a trip to Iceland recently and it would definitely be the colour I would pick if it was available in UK.
I took a test drive in a Model 3 'Highland' and the weekend, and while it is slightly better in almost every aspects to my 21 version (I still think removing stalks alienate people considering a Tesla for the first time), I didn't think any of them were big enough for me to take out a new lease later this year. I think I'll be buying my 2021 model instead, but please of the love of god, fix the f&&king auto wipers!
you can 3dprint a sunglass holder behind the screen
Black headliner please 🙏
Richard, This is all good recommendations. As a new Model 3 owner, I am awaiting to hear about Tesla addressing the blind spot in front of the front bumper. Reverse parking is no problem with high resolution rear view cameras. However, pulling into a parking bay, does not give a top view or a distance measure to an obstacle or a wall in front of the vehicle. This is guesswork at the moment, as the recent Hi Fidelity park Assist "STOP" indicates a distance too far ahead of the wall. Also at times, this reading is inconsistent. View in front of the front bumper would solve this issue. Hope this would be improved to a more reliable and to an acceptable level in a future software update. This would make front parking much easier and enhance overall user experience.
I would love to see a the swivelling dashboard, and the handles aren’t they operated by a key fob or your smartphone, so it would be much easier to unlock?
Model Y should include it’s own WiFi connection so everyone in the car can be connected.
I heard a couple of years ago, maybe less, that Tesla was putting the mechanism for angling the main screen, but without the motors. Does anybody know if the new 2024 Model 3 has the motors? Maybe we'll get motorized screen angle as a software update before too long.
It’s a Model s/x only feature
10:55 rear window blinds would be awesome but problematic with frameless windows. You have nowhere to anchor them and if you do it to the main structure then you cannot have the door open to put them up
Hmm I agree with what you say. I would not buy one of these until the fixes you advise are incorporated.
Great suggestions.
Customers be like:
We need more 1) air suspension
2) faster reacting headlights (they’re dangerously slow when switching from dipped to high beam)
3) better seats needed similar to m sport seats bmw offers with better body support
4) better cabin noise isolation
5) speedometer dash (or at least a heads up display!!!) , are you kidding me???!!!. Constantly looking side-ways for the speed in a country like UK with 69 different speed limits on any given strip of road is just an atrocious experience
6) panoramic roof that can at least partially open? Too much to ask?
7) rain sensor
8) tilting main touch screen towards the driver for obvious reasons
9) basically overall the possibility to add more options on the vehicle
Tesla’s response be like:
Here ya go faster acceleration by 0.9s via paid software update mate. Speed is everything friends!
The handles are great as is imo, my 2 and 3 year olds have had no issues using them (to my annoyance haha)
The road noise is still terrible in the new model 3 highland. They need to improve it to the point that rear seat passengers can hear what front seat people say in a normal voice level. On a highway.
The old models now have MATRIX lights, my SR+ has MATRIX and it's absolutely fantastic. Agree on the rain sensor. Stalks are preferred for me.
Had my Y 4 months. Wishlist. Agree on the cold knees, light up handles, better wipers, front parking camera, front seat base longer, adjustable headrest. That should do for me 👍
Just to add I think the parcel shelf in mine is different to the one in your white car as it has 3 fold points rather than 2. I leave the rear most section folded up permanently as it makes loading much easier
Cold knees??
I don’t know how they messed up the auto wipers so much. I had a golf 4 in 2004 that could literally read my mind, always got it right… come on Elon..
@@Joe-ud2hb As Richard said in the video, I'm 6 Ft tall, The lower part of my legs, knees down are always colder than the rest of me, makes a change from cold feet.
@@grantnyenes3742 TBH the auto wipers were shite in my Nissan Leaf, at least you have manual override on a Tesla.
Looking forward to new y improvements.
Juniper is already a bigger sensation than Highland.
My wipers always react to low sunlight flickering through tree branches. Never fails to surprise me.
They should add a steering wheel that can sense you're there when you touch it. One that doesn't require you to move it all the time. I recently drove a VW ID.7 which almost drives by itself (travel assist or whatever they call it (Autopilot in Tesla, I belive)) when you just lay your hand on it. The car will follow the road and not complain it you don't turn the steering wheel.
Those aren’t head rests. They are to prevent whiplash in a rear end collision.
Stalks are just a matter of muscle memory. Your kids won’t have to worry about that.
You can get aftermarket accessories for you sun glasses.
Get your rear windows tinted.
Spigen treys are great for organising
I often click on your videos without realising they are yours. Maybe it has to do with the logo not being too unique or the captions not being super consistent through different videos. Great content by the way
40k miles in 15 months in my MY- overall I am very happy but I really want a heads up display. It’s not an issue for many people but when you’re tired, it’s dark and it’s raining it’s really difficult to keep an eye on the speedo.
Any suggestion that increases a) production cost or b) production man hours is immediately binned.
Like the rear seat entertainment in our discovery 4. Invaluable with kids.
Also the screen angle on the hyland can’t be good for passengers on a long journey. Neck ache incoming!
All great feedback, let’s see what they come up with…
06:50 front bumper cam is coming to the m3 and juniper afterwards