ETS Front Mount Intercooler Install STI
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Got our front mount on the car finally and it look FANTASTIC. ETS does not have very good instructions about how to actually install this piece so hopefully this finds you if your in need of a guide!
ETS Front Mount Intercooler Black Piping Silver Core
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Just got my EST 4" FMIC this weekend for my STI and this video helped me so much. Thank you Smeedia you have my like and subscription.
I'm catching up on all of the old videos man great content.
Thank you paul! Always appreciate the support 🔥
@@Smeedia No problem brother. I appreciate your videos because you have a very creative mind and great personal drive to give us all great content.
This came in handy for my install. Love everything you do for the community,
Eyyy. Glad to hear it helped 🔥🙏
I legit only watch your vids for installs vs manufacturer vids. Much more in depth content! You’re the #GOAT for Subaru content 🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
Watching this made me feel like i could do this.
Glad to hear! That's what I shoot for in the more complex install videos I do!
I appreciate the support!
Awesome I’m getting mine on Monday hopefully so I’ll follow this tutorial.
Not too bad, the clamps are the worst part 😅🔥
@@Smeedia yeah they were I had to cut the passenger side bracket but I ended up bending it back to clear the lower pipe to the intercooler. I also didn’t use the spacers on the washer tank I used the stock ones and removed the filler neck so it is just the reservoir but I can use a long funnel stone refill it but I got rid of the yellow washer fluid funnel. Overall it does suck but it does look good.
Thanks man. You’re videos are always great!
Glad I could help! 🙏🙏🙏
After installing my ETS FMIC I gotta say those t bolt clamps are definitely a pain in the ass to to put on. I had trouble with putting one on the throttle body so I went and bought a bigger clamp lol.
Some of them were easier for me than others for some reason. Even though they were all the same clamps lol. But was able to get them. The worst ones for me were the intercooler clamps 🤣
Awesome video as always! I'm deciding between ETS & Cobb FMIC, and my question relates to the side metal beams you need to remove for the ETS FMIC install. What is their purpose? Will it affect structural integrity? Also, I'd appreciate your thoughts on ETS vs Cobb FMIC since you've had both. Thanks!
Definitely want to follow for this answer.
I am a technician for an aftermarket shop and I can confirm that the side metal beam that is removed will have no effect on the structural integrity of the vehicle. The from crash bar would be my deciding factor. If you get into a head on collision your fmic, ac consider, radiator, and possibly engine will be destroyed.
@@TheGibbiMan shit, you get in a head on collision you're either dead, or your car will be totaled out anyway.
Mmm, cool jazz background music
😁 some of the older videos have some crazy music for some reason 😅😅😅
Good Morning Sir..! Trying to decide if I should jump the shark and go for the fmic or get a nice tmic... you SUPER Stoked you went with the front mount..? I have been getting those 140 and 280 feedback knock random reads... glad I watched that video so I didn’t FREAK OUT... lol... your the bestest...!
Eyyy, appreciate the membership my man 🙏
I suggest a FMIC it will really help with your IATs as well making taking it out muxh much easier. Ive always hated top mounts because they take up a decent amiunt of room, IATs can still get relatively high and to be honest a FMIC Looks better IMO. No regrets at all with making thr jump to a FMIC 🙏
Thanks for showing bro. This seems simple...
Not too bad to do! 😁
Bro you singing that song in the beginning made me like the video instantly lol my co workers and I sing that shit all the time jokingly 😂 also just great content for Subaru owners 👌🏼
wish this video was up before i put my ets FMIC a couple months ago
There was some guesswork involved when installing without anything to reference. Trying to pump out some more videos, if you have any I stall suggestions let me know! How did your install go?
@@Smeedia same as you alot of guesswork , followed the cobb FMIC manuel mostly. and do a turbo upgrade or upgrade fuel lines or fuel stumble kit
How much turbo lag, if any did you experience?
None, honestly cant tell the diffrence the system gets pressurized so quick its a negligible difference
Cool, thank you. I think this will work amasing with the cobb turbo or something bigger in the future when i upgrade
Maybe i am asking the obvious here but this seems to be a hot topic with the FMICs,. Why not go ETS cold air intake, vs chopping op the box on the cobb. Trying to find the right combo on my 13 STI, and folks are all over the place. If you have any insight on why hang on to box SF intake and carving it up, vs just using the Cold air that would have been less of an issue i would greatly appreciate that point of view!!
In washington state it rains ALOT and sometimes puddles can get deep. To minimize the chance the hydro locking my engine I avoid cold air intakes as they sit pretty low in the fender well. Plus with the car being on bags my fender liners are a little torn. So I prefer the short ram intake to keep it away from water. But I have a heat soaking issue, so the Cobb airbox wouldent fit with the FMIC piping so I figured I would give it a try to make it fit. Overall I saw a 10 degree drop in IAT temps using the cut up box over not using one at all 😁
Smeedia makes since thanks! Any other SF with box combo with FMIC that might be a better option?
@@jbuckley21 none that I have seen out there 😫 which is why I made this one work for what I can do with it 😅
Great content as always man. Is Process West FMIC worth looking into, or should I just go with ETS. I know PW makes good stuff
PW is a very good option. A bit more $$$ though 😅
I went way off course and actually just purchased a Cobb FMIC. With military discount and some other codes I only paid 1650.00 for it. Not too bad
Liked and subscribed. Ty for this golden content
Appreciate the support! 😁🔥
Probably a stupid question, but can you switch from TMIC to FMIC without getting a tune for a while? Is it deadly to the engine?
Would you run more rich or more lean or neither but just not get the power gains you would if you got a tune?
Thanks in advance! 🤝
FMIC will not change the balance of Air/Fuel as it is all already metered(MAF) air. A tune is not required for an FMIC.
Good videos . They help . Are going to run a parrin parrell fuel system . Or any . Ima need help lol
Once I swap to a larger turbo I'll be doing some type of fuel rails, but they're not too bad I would assume. When i pulled my Injectors the rails came off pretty easy.
Idk if this is a stupid question but I have looked all over the internet for an answer but I cant find one. Does it matter what intercooler thickness you go with? If I go 4 inch does that prevent me from doing something else or is just benefit?
Nope just means that the intercooler will be capable of more power later on 🙏
Did you see higher coolant temps after the FMIC install? I'm about to either pull the trigger on the ETS TMIC or FMIC. I track the car and a FMIC would sandwich my oil cooler creating essentially a 3 stack; rad, oil cooler, fmic. I'm guessing you also lost that OEM foam ducting once installed yea? Anything you'd suggest doing, prior to installing the FMIC (Fitment wise or whatever)? Seems like adding the FMIC would def make it harder to duct the rad/oil cooler to the bumper
It is much more difficult to add an oil cooler, ducting should not be an issue and no trimming needed to fit it. As for coolant temps I saw no change with the larger Mishimoto rad
@@Smeedia Sounds like you're saying i'll have to relocate the Perrin Oil Cooler.
Youll need to make your own lines for it but it can stay in the same location
Smeedia forgive my ignorance. Does the FMIC somehow block the cooler lines or something?
Yes, the lines route where the charge liping goes so your not able to reach the cooling plate on the block ive got a video trying to fit the perrin oil cooler on the car with the stock lines
Nice Job Man 👍
Thank you! 😁
What size intercooler did you go with? Great video!
Thank you! I went with the 3" core. I want to say its rated to around 500WHP which is more than plenty for me for the time being.
@@Smeedia wouldnt the 4 inch have better cooling capacity since it bigger? cant decide between the 4 inch or the smaller ones
did you run into overheating issues hence, the intercooler so tall? it's blocking the radiator.
Nope, coolant temps stayed the exact same. While the intercooler may be blocking the rad it still allows for more than sufficient airflow to the radiator
I don’t know about removing front crash beam, wouldn’t think that would be safe
I ended up adding an after market one 🙏
I think the sensor is the ambiant temp sensor
It was 🙏🔥
Did you have to cut out behind the front bumper to make it fit?
Nope no cutting required!
Why didn’t you go Cobb so it would match/fit your intake. Just curious. Although the ETS looks beautiful I love the titanium piping one.
$$$, the Cobb was $400 more than ETS 😖
I stopped it at 4:00 he said "thanks for stopping by" did I miss anything else?
j/k....
Do you have a link for the AOS relocating bracket?
Did you had to tune after ?
If you keep the hood scoop functional, can you mount a oil cooler. For the transmission or the differential.
I have an oil cooler to mount, I've looked at mounting it up top but still unsure if that's where I'm completely settled on 😫
@@Smeedia well I would keep that hood scoop functional, since it's OEM.
@@Smeedia but that's my opinion
You dont really need a transmission cooler with manual transmissions. Theres friction but no pressure so it doesnt really get hot. A/T creat a lot of pressure so they need them more for towing
I think he was referring to the oil cooler for the engine, but not 100% sure 😅
Did you have to trim your bumper at all to fit?
Is cutting up the front lower section really needed
For the fmic
Hey I have the same FMIC
how did you get the front crash bar
Bought it from ETS recently came out in September of last year I think. 👀
Smeedia did it take long to get it shipped out ?
@@stevenroseren9300 about a day I got it within 3 days of ordering it
Smeedia that’s awesome I’m going to try order one I just know that , ETS won’t ship stuff to California I don’t know if your from this area , but hopefully they can ship that
Do you know which CAI work with the ETS FMIC Piping? I'm literally about to pick up the ETS FMIC, but thinking about hood vents w/ a TMIC gots me looking at this FMIC Kit. I currently have the AEM CAI, and it looks like the ETS CAI is bent/shaped almost exactly the same. Which are you using for a CAI? Also, love the vids man, Netflix who?
I'm using thr Cobb short ram intske, I know the ETS CAI fits but most cold air intakes should fit with thr ETS set ups 🔥
I think im going to FMIC. Not trying to push anymore power since im pretty close to maxed for my transmission, and seem to be having issues with my heads (shims). I was thinking about the mishimoto since its seems to be pretty cheap compared to other brands. Do you have any suggestions on brands?
Fitment will be where the quality is as, I've never used mishimoto only Cobb and ETS. I heard that perrins has pretty good fitment. Outside of those I cannot confirm quality of anyone else 😫
@@Smeedia i was thinking about perrin but they only have for 08 and up :/ unless it can still fit. i know i gotta change out the intake as well since im pretty sure the piping wont fit that airbox for the cold air from cobb... thanks for the heads up tho! still debating though lol told myself enough but new ideas keep popping up lol
I have stock 2006 wrx wagon limited i want to replace my top mount intercooler to front mount ets intercooler any recommendation i know there is several sizes when it comes sizes. I just want that can fit without too much modification since my car automatic.
Great video
Thank you! 😁
Can you install this on a stock wrx ?
And is there a problem with not having a beam in the front of the car?
I have one now, ghey released a crash bar shortly after this video
Thank you so much
Hope it helped!
What about when your FMIC blocks airflow to the Radiator. I have this large CTS turbo intercooler in front of my radiator on my B8 Audi A4 2.0T and I feel like the radiator isn't getting enough air to properly cool the coolant at the extreme.
I've swapped FMICs onto all my TMIC cars and at maximum maybe see a 3* increase in coolant Temps. It's never been anything substantial to coolant temp impacts. If you really wanted you could get higher CFM fans as well
you saved me with this vido
Glad it came in handy 🙏🔥
Perrin fmic advertises no tune required for their set up. Any thoughts on that?
I'd suggest getting a tune
Great video, what yr is your Rex looking to do the same mod
Mine is a 2017, keeps my IATs a lot colder. Since installing it it's been a lot better for daily driving.
Smeedia yeah definitely need this and a aos it’s just deciding if I want to try to install this myself I have a 2018
@@Thomas-ky5xg it's really not too bad, if you follow the steps in the video you'll be able to do it no problem. 🔥
Was this one with the FP Blue? I am deciding Cobb or ETS.
This was with stock turbo 🙏 snag thr ETS 🔥
Did you have to cut into your bumper at all to install this?
Not for the 2015-2017 model 🙏
My concern is the front beam you had removed. What purpose does it serve?
I had the Replacment crash beam from ETS a week later 🙏
@@Smeedia, funny enough, I had just watched that video as well lol. Still, the beam removed was further back. The structural integrity is unaffected?
It's definitely not as strong as the OEM one was but better than nothing IMO
What intake would you recommend if install ETS FMIC that will perfectly fit there?
The Cobb fit well with the box with a little trimming. Aside from that I can't verify fitment with other intakes
Where to get the front mount intercooler??
My goal are 450-500 crank hp. Should i take the 3.0" or the 3.5" core?
The 3.5" would be my suggestion, I beilive ETS has a breakdown chart on their website
What did you do about the P0073 code from the horn and sensor you disconnected?
I plugged the sensor back in and tucked it under the AC condenser, the horn shouldn't be an issue
Will your Hella Horns fit on your ETS Front Mount Intercooler after install?
Nope 😣
Hey bro I have a SF Cobb intake will there be any issues with that?
No, it can fit with the intake 🙏
would you recommend it for ‘16 sti making 320whp?
Yesss, will help with IATs 🔥
Been watching you for awhile now and I now want a wrx. But im not doing too much, only cosmetics, can I still run a front mount intercooler while everything else is stock?
Yes you can just make sure yo get an etune so the car operates properly 🙏😁
@@Smeedia omg u replied, ok, so if i was thinking of going for a stage 1 etune will it mess up my reliability by any chance? imma have it as my daily and only personal car
Shouldent mess up reliability at all would definitely suggest an AOS too
@@Smeedia sounds good, thanks so much Smeedia! keep up the good work
Hey bro quick question... does the install leave the “bumper” off permanently? I ask cuz I’ve got an APR front splitter with the fastening arms drilled and bolted directly to the metal bumper for strengthening... crap load of structural support but no good if it’s out of the equation... thanks in advance!
I also use the APR Splitter and have no issues with fitment or the bumper going on or off wash. I use the front fore support and front suffrage to support the splitter and have had any issues
Smeedia awesome I’ll look into it when all done. Hey by the way, I asked you where you found the oil galley plug in the oil pressure gauge video thread, found it both at Rally Sport Direct and parts Dept at dealership... just in case anyone asks! -thx ✌🏽
Did you pro tune after install of the FMIC?
Yes you will need a protune 😁
@@Smeedia How soon did you get it tuned right after?
@@markburroughs4955 immediately, I had a base map from my tuner that I was able to flash onto the car
@@Smeedia I have the AP OTS map will that work?
@@markburroughs4955 no, you'll need a custom pro tune form a local tuner
did you get it with AIT bung? about to buy mine just don't know if i should go with it or not, along with BOV. Any help would be awesome
Yes I did, well worth it for future proofing. I got the OE BOV bung but wish I would have got the tail version
@@Smeedia also what thickness did you run? thanks for response btw
Where can you buy the custom center bracket for the AOS?
IAG Makes it
Got a question, installed the grimmspeed front mount yesterday and put everything back together this morning and went to go for a drive. Going into boost there is a squealing noise and can’t get over 5lbs of boost. Any idea what it could be?
Sounds like a coupler that is not sealing all the way 👀
@@Smeedia thank you for always coming in clutch I figured I’d get some advice before I started taking everything apart
Who does your tuning?
Chris over at Surgline Tuning in Portland OR 😁
Hes tuned 2 of my previous STIs, super awesome guy!
Nice. I bought my AP from them but the drive is a little too much for me lately. I've been running up to Drive Auto Sports now that they have an Everett location. Also good peeps.
@@soopermarkus I'll have to check them out, did not know they had a place in Everett. It is a bit of a drive down there. About 4 hours or so from me.
what turbos can you use with this FMIC? could you use rotated turbos?
You can use a lot of turbos but if you go rotated just make sure you get the rocketed piping kit 😁
Will ETS cold air intake fit with the FMIC?
Yes it will
Do you all have inspection in WA? I used to have Turbo XS FMIC in PA with no replacement crash beam and couldn’t pass the car because the crash beam was removed. Did you have issues with inspection after putting the crash beam on if you all have something like that? Looking at getting the Cobb kit for my 2007.
We do not have inspection up here but shortly after this I did get the crash bar from ETS as well 🙏
Hey man what you think about the turboXs FMIC
Did you get the Stock Turbo Kit from ETS?
Yes this one is for stock turbo placement
How was the fitment bro?
Perfect 🔥😁
Im planning to get the ETS FMIC, but which one would you recommend me, 3" 3.5" or 4" core?
Going to all depend on your power goal my friend 😁
@@Smeedia lol, so far cobb stage 1 and sf intake, I'll get the grimmspeed limited dp, already took the bumper out, damm clips lol, im thinking also in replace the crash beam, ETS
Worth it, the 3" core should be plenty for what your going for
What size intercooler will fit a 2014 wrx hatch?
I would go with the 3" or 3.5"
Which one do you recommend ets fmic or cobbs fmic ?
ETS all day 🙏
Smeadia, why would you choose ETS over Cobb? I’m assuming the ETS might be considered more efficient. How efficient is the ? “Unfortunately” I purchased the Cobb redline intake which is a good btw, however, seems as though only the Cobb FM plumbing is compatible. If the ETS is that more efficient I’m wondering if the Cobb plumbing can be matched with the ETS. Just random that make me go mmmm lol. Great resource videos btw!
Price point mainly. You can make the ETS FMIC fit with the SF intake and box. Requires about the same cutting as the Cobb one does. I've had both and personal would go with ETS solely based of the cost.
Is that ej20 or fa20?
EJ25
is this 3.0 inch core?
Yessir 🙏
Stock turbo?
At the time of this video yes
Will I need to cut off the front bumper brace on my 2011 sti to but a new front mount?
If you go with the ETS you'll have to remove it
@@Smeedia can I message you on Instagram😅 it may be a little easier
Whats your IG name? I'll keep an eye out
701_pokey_sti
Does everything sit proper even with SF Intake box?
You've got to trim the box a bit but once trimmed yes 🙏
@@Smeedia thank you yes I just saw you had the other video posted. Just out of curiosity that FMIC is the 3”?
I wanna say it was the 3.5", been a while 😅
@smeedia , i got a front mount from ets , my tuner been telling me that i need to find a way to cover up the intake with a heat shield or somehow to be able to block the heat from the piping from the intercooler.. Please Need helpp !!!! 😩
@@Smeedia please see this ^
I am curious if my hella horns with the bracket would get in the way of the ETS FMIC. Or if they would just be chilling behind the FMIC. Anyone experience this. 17WRX
There's no way they would fit IMO, there is minimal room behind the intercooler 😅
@@Smeedia What is a man to do?
Could relocate them if you wanted, you just wouldn't see them
How do I get a ETS fmic to California 😒
Buy one and ship it to someone you know, then have them ship it to you 🤔
@@Smeedia hahahah! my man! youre not wrong, valid point!
How large is the core 3” or 3.5” ?
This one was a 3.5" 🙏
Ok thanks I have a 2020 sti and have the carbon 1 peice Cobb sf intake probably won’t work for any fmic right ?
Cobb says that it works with their FMIC but not sure with ETS
Yeah I was gonna get the ets fmic with the titanium piping thanks for the info and the vids they help a lot
Was it hard to install it by yourself?
Super easy 🙏
@@Smeedia ok cool! I've been thinking about doing that as well and want to do it on my own. Thanks bro
Hey what's up brother. Hope all is going well. Let me ask you something. What's a good oil pickup brand and what's a good tmic? I'm really not trying to push a lot power with my sti.
Killer B for the oil pick up and grimmspeed for a TMIC 🔥
@@Smeedia cool I appreciate it brother. How's that new engine doing?
If I run full E85 with 1050x injectors, would it be enough?
What is your power goal?
Smeedia 450 to 500 WHP
Youll need at minimum 1300s
Smeedia thank you sir, maybe stock block won’t able to hold 500WHP
The 18+ have been promising for around 500 on the stock block
I got stage 2 and can I go with 4 core? It’s good for stage 2?
You can go with a 4" core if your only planning in staying stage 2 the TMIC is more than enough for that
Smeedia I mean I’ll upgrade to stage 3+ in the feature but right now I wanna go with FMIC 4 core for my stage 2. Its that good? Idk I’ll do what ever u recommend it. You’re my teacher!.😁
The 3.5" should be sufficient for what your shooting for. Unless your end goal is above 450WHP you should be good with the 3.5 🔥
Smeedia thank you 🙏 my teacher 👨🏫
Does it also fit 2013 sti ?
They make one that fits 🙏
@@Smeedia I have someone selling one local I just rather save time . Just wanted to know if it fits I assumed it would
Wouldn't fit to my knowledge
i already put the MAP tmic on my 18 wrx. is it worth it to put this on? thanks for the video!
I prefer front mounts over top mounts but they both have their pros and cons 🔥🙏
@@Smeedia for the money i could probably go with some killer b headers and the tune for less right?
For less than? Whats your budget?
@@Smeedia right nil because im saving up. the cost of headers with install is almost the same as the fmic from ets without labor. im still curious what the next sti going to be. if the rumors are true and its not ugly id be tempted to trade up because i have 25k on the odometer and its paid off and it will less than 50k when that sti comes out one day. or for less build the motor do the sti transmission conversion put brakes and call it day, but that will be about 20k. either way i have time.
The Killer B header for the QRX is pretty expseinve because you've got 2 EWGs to plumb and buy. In ny suggestion I would get a intercooler before the headers
3:54 xD
😅😅😅
Would this fit a 2016 wrx sti with no trimming? on their site it says no bumper modifications for 18+ sti
It fit mine without any trimming or modifications needed so it should be thr same 🙏
You have a link to that intercooler ?
www.extremeturbosystems.com/products/ets-2015-subaru-sti-front-mount-intercooler-kit
Should be an option that says OEM
Wrx mid mid
Does it need a tune after installing the FMIC?
Yes you will need a tune