The Worlds Fastest Power Mac G3 Blue & White (Part 2) | IMNC
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Welcome to the second of many parts in this PowerPC goodness crammed series. During this series, we'll be packing the absolute best technology that this machine can support into this gorgeous Blue & White G3 minitower, creating what I believe will be the fastest B&W G3 on the planet. This is the most involved Power Mac upgrade series I've ever produced, changing every single major component in this box and adding as much as I can to make this machine fly. Sit back, relax and enjoy some mighty fine PowerPC geeky goodness.
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Love these videos from ItsMyNaturalColour. Man after my own heart - tinkering about with old Macs to get the best out of them, and geeking out over old home entertainment systems. Carry on, good sir.
Thanks a lot for this awesome comment, really glad you're enjoying the stuff I do. Loads more to come :)
I bought an external FireWire optical drive case and my life got so much better. I've used it to install to dozens of mac computers. Best Purchase Ever!
I love your extended videos. PLEASE KEEP THEM COMING!!!
My first Mac model was the Macintosh LC, and my first system version was its included System 7.0.1. Not as fancy as Tiger by any measure, but I appreciate the feeling of seeing that old system again. I run 7.0.1 on vMac now, and the emulated Mac II is pretty much identical to that Mac LC I once used. Funnily enough, I also had a Power Mac G3 BW when I finished high school and started college, and it was on there that I first got to upgrade to Mac OS X and finally enjoy multitasking and protected memory. I was so jazzed about it that I took that puppy to one of my community college classes to demo it xD
Tiger was my first OS on a 2006 Intel iMac, when it was current. My favourite will always be Snow Leopard - and that is what I used at University for all my music production work. Got Tiger running on a 12" Alu PowerBook G4 just the other day after installing an mSATA SSD in it with an adapter. Bizarrely, it even installed from a USB stick. It absolutely screams along and is very, very responsive.
Good times.
I still use Tiger as my main laptop OS. I simply love it
-Crispy Media
Yes same here! I use it on a very nice PowerBook G4. I have it dual-booted with leopard, but tiger runs much better so therefore I still use it as my main OS.
regarding the start video, i know exactly that feeling i have the same thing just with snow leopard. So not lame at all 😉
Only just had the time to watch this! Great series, Tom! Really looking forward to your next part and your Christmas Eve vlog!
- Jaiden
(Used to be Alfie but changed name :P)
No matter what anyone says in some G3's as long as formatted right, can boot off a USB Flash drive with a OS install image (.DMG) file on it and install the OS on the HD. Hold down option at start up and it will show the drive. Worked on a iMac 600MHz G3 with a Tiger .DMG image on the flash drive. Was a 16GB Brand new flash drive. So the long awaited question is yes some PPC macs can boot off USB and was Around the same install time as the CD drive even with USB 1.1. Have not tried it on my own G3 B&W yet though only iMac.
Nice Video! I had very similar power problems with my G3's. They just wouldn't turn on at all but eventually work again after unplugging them or just letting them sit for some hours/days. It turns out that the PMU seems to be the reason for this behavior. I found out that I can usually get it back to work by simply performing a PMU reset according to Apples instructions. I've had this issue with three different B/W's.
Interesting to hear, thanks for sharing this. Glad I'm not alone. I love the quirks of this system, it really does have personality.
I was messing around with OS X Discs with my Powermac G4, I have an External DVD drive that I use and it's worked brilliantly for burning discs and booting from OS CD's.
Those graphics tests are so A E S T H E T I C
Loving the series so far! 👍
Can't wait to see how it performs with all the upgrades :) Watching this video on my PowerBook G4, really helps to get into the PowerPC spirit ;)
Weheyy that's the spirit! Nice one ;)
Really Great Video. Its Nice To See that you still Love to tinker with this old PowerPC Macs like in the old days. The owc Drive you had in the Mac Pro because you needed a Drive that supported lightscribe if my memories are right.
For CPU benchmark you also Could run Cinebench. I think R11.5 still runs on PowerPC. If Not Cinebench R10 Runs for sure
Still love it just as much as the old days, you're right :)
Yep, I believe I did. I also don't remember taking it out. How frustrating.
Your videos are so awesome Tom! And I'm loving so much your British accent (I'm French by the way).
I'm downloading it to watch it on my PowerBook G4 Titanium. This is gonna be awesome! :)
Thanks a lot for your comment! That's absolutely awesome, can't beet watching the PPC stuff on a PROPER PPC Mac! :D
OH YEAH PART 2 THANK YOUU
Tiger OS rocked, your not lame.... I have fond memories of how it felt so advanced compared to Windows at the time.
In many areas it still does lol. Considering Windows 10 still falls back to Windows 3.1 and 95 era UI's from time to time.
It would be more easy if you restore the DVD/.dmg install disc to a hard drive from another mac or from the Previous install of the G3 and install them from there.
Nahhh, nothing wrong with a good ol' optical disk ;)
Cool... I have not installed an OS X from a CD/DVD since 2008, I have a 250HD USB2/FireWire with 7 partitions (10.4.6 install / 10.4.11 Server boot /10.5.6 install / 10.5.8 boot / 10.6.3 install / 10.6.8 boot / Applications and Updates) for fix/test old Macs PPC and Intel.
I can't wait for the CPU upgrade...
Great video Tom! Glad to see you finally were able to get Tiger installed onto the G3. It's funny that Tiger was your first Mac OS because when I was in middle school, I used Tiger on white PPC G5 iMacs for a computer graphics class. It was my first time using Mac OS X. There was little to no security implemented onto the machines so I had free reins to configure things how I wanted them haha Can't wait to see the part upgrades and everything in the future parts!
We had a bunch of PowerMac G4's at college in the media and design labs. Everyone was confused as hell with the lack of an application frame in Photoshop having being used to their pirated Windows copies at home lol. For that reason alone many people hated the Macs, which is hilarious given it wasn't even a Mac thing, it was Adobe who made that decision lol.
I know the feeling, when I initially started in that class, I was confused as hell but really enjoyed learning. It is hard to understand that the applications don't always have to have a window open in order to "open" because a lot of times I will go to a machine and all these apps are open but no windows are shown. Annoying, but people primarily only know windows and if a window isn't open, the application isn't open.
Revinriley Indeed. Mac OS makes the distinction between close and quit. Interestingly so does most of the Office suite along with Adobe's stuff (and where did they first appear? The Mac!).
Indeed, couldn't agree more! Haha
New drinking game. Take a shot every time he says test.
Loving Part 2... and Tom sneaks in Meat and Potatoes :-)
at 39:06 "Lets shutdown the stock configuration of the g4 for the last time" -Tom 2016
I thought it was g3? Is it not?
Who knows at this point, haha !
i remember back when you first mentioned receiving the upgrade and i knew at an instant what it was! Ive been waiting for you to use it forever! Keep up the mac videos tom!
got an IDE CD and an IDE DVD drive you can have if you want them tom? both work in my eMac 1.0 G4
Dude you're not lame, you're awsome =D
still jelly of how good looking your is cosmeticly. mines got all kinda of bits of plastic missing from it, and apple stuff is hard to find so its not like i can get cheep replacemnt parts.
Good stuff Thomas.
Which optical drive do you recommend? The one I have in my B&W 400Mhz is the stock drive. I want a fast one and also want DVD support. Loved your videos!!! Hello from Oregon USA
16:43 2018 trying to get a mac to boot properly
remember the 1st video? In 4:3? With a G5 main machine?
I'm surprised you didn't make a printer joke again when you plugged in the g5 drive.
I own the slowest Powermac G3 B&W, the base model with a 300MHz CPU that has half the cache of the 350/400/450MHz models. At least it was cheap, I paid shipping for it (RAM, power supply, HDD and some screws were missing). It has 384MB of RAM, an ATI Rage128 16MB GPU, a noisy 27GB Quantum HDD and a noisy Toshiba CD drive (Was inside the machine when I got it in 2011. Don't know if it is the factory drive). Did I mention that something inside makes weird high pitch sounds? Booting from CD is a pain in the butt, but it works eventually and the power button gets stuck. Otherwise it runs fine.
I like how the "stock" configuration is still not strictly stock lol :-P
haha! Close enough ;)
ItsMyNaturalColour indeed :-) love your videos man, hope you and your family have a nice Christmas and 2017 😌
Thank you so much! I hope you have lovely Christmas too :)
ItsMyNaturalColour no worries and cheers :-)
PART 2 YAYAAYAY!!!!!!
huh, first "mac" i got to use alot was the LC 1 2 and 3, it would be years before i owned my own apple product.
I prefer the pioneer drives myself. I always had trouble with the others. do you know if an apple G3, G4, or G5 will support an Pioneer DVR-113KG lightscribe drive?
Another great job! Greetings from Poland! Have a nice Christmas with full of gifts (maybe another piece of old mac from Santa - Apple Macintosh II for example). Let these holidays will be healthy and full of happiness for all Yours family! I have some working optical drives with IDE port (working with my G4 MDD and other PC retro machines) and if You want any parts then tell me and I'll see what I can do. Once again MARRY CHRISTMAS!!
Thank you for your lovely comment! Merry Christmas :)
thank you for inspiring!
I will miss PowerPC Hub too
cool, second part very fast
There's a white optical drive in your mdd because you thought the light scribe drive of you mdd and put it in your mac pro and the put a white optical drive to hold the screws
This Seagate 20GB ATA are the MOST silent drivers I ever used.
nice upgrade :D i make same ultimate power mac g3 with a macintosh 9600/350 this i choose to up a memory 1.5 gb i add g3 max cpu with 1.1ghz perfect a 9.2.2 mac os and radeon 9250 pci with kingston 80gb ssd :)
As the hard drive file size limit on the Blue & White is 128GBs, can one use two solid state 128 GB hard drives for a raid array? Or can you only use two 64 GB drives for a raid array?
great videos man. Subscribed!
Have you tried to hold alt while booting?
Any luck tracking down a Blueberry Studio display?
I think someone found one with a G4 Cube, he was considering buying it.
What a find! I always thought the G4 Cube was the coolest computer ever made!
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Apple-Power-Mac-G4-Cube-monitor-keyboard-mouse-and-powerbank-/232168352312?hash=item360e4fea38:g:YZcAAOSw44BYKcry
Just found it. If only I lived in the UK ; /
Garrett Nelson Haha, I live in the U.K. but can't afford it!
If only I had somewhere to actually put such a thing!
Dude... why not just burn an ISO of whatever version of the OS you want to install to a USB stick then use open firmware to boot from it? Seems a lot easier than messing with different optical drives :)
If you're going to upgrade the cpu will you need a new CPU cooler as well because your going from 400mhz to 1Ghz?
This upgrade card uses the existing heatsink surprisingly. When it comes to it, I may add some sort of fan because I'm a little nervous about that.
Dead, that happens to my G3 iMac aa you know, The one I told you about Tom
Temporary only
I have to wait a lot
Absolutely! Scary stuff but adds personality :D
Could the drive issue be related to wether it is a DVD+ or DVD- disc?
Good point! These older drives were a pain for this stuff. We have Sony to thank for the multiple different versions of CD and DVD write/rewrite modes!
One solution: Restoring a Tiger DVD dmg to an SSD partition, and it will work in one go. No messing around with failing optical drives
(using another mac, can be a recent one, doesn't matter)
you should live stream this series it would be so much more cooler and we the viewers can help you if you have issues!
A good idea and something I'd love to do for a different type of project, but believe it or not these videos are massively cut down. I spend hours off camera, usually waiting for the installs, benchmarks and I often walk away for hours at a time to go and do other things. Still, for a simpler project this is a fantastic idea.
ItsMyNaturalColour I do believe that you spend hours doing this and I highly enjoy it thanks for taking my idea into consideration
Totally agree!
I think if you had put the ISO files onto the USB Dongle and see if you can use that to get OS X Tiger installed but I wonder why don't you use use a SATA DVD/RW with a SATA2IDE adaptor and who knows that might get OS X Tiger installed not sure if you want to do that.
He wanted to do everything as original as possible, including installing the OS. I wouldn't be surprised if he tried it the other ways when doing it with the upgraded version.
This machine has no USB boot support, too old.
Not sure if you've seen the whole video but I got Tiger installed no problem with a Pioneer drive.
hey Tom I'm new here since 2016 start I was wondering if you can make these eps longer or more often please and thank you.
josh
Hey Josh, thanks for joining us! :D
I do as much as I possibly can, hopefully a little more frequently in 2017 as my new work schedule evens out. There's a lot of back catalogue and the 2nd channel too. I hope you continue to enjoy the videos :)
ItsMyNaturalColour. thanks for the quick reply I will check out your other channel right now
i have same machine with yours i have problem as a you need to restart your computer reboot again
Who's Niles and why did he stop doing UA-cam?
Thanks for doing these videos, but I have to tell you that the sundry commentary does make watching these arduous. I really think significant edits are in order.
hilarious that a G5 quad can only run 1 OS farther then this ancient thing
Can I Buy The Tiger Disk Please?
What Tiger disk?
The Legit Disk
No, I've literally just bought it haha
He He
Slatex I've got one with the box and everything it's in perfect condition all is included
yaay
I was just going to sleep...
Give me the win 7 disk cuz I am a fan of windows 7 home premium
Optical drives have always been an absolute shambles in terms of reliability. They're almost always the first part to die on any machine and this is one reason Apple got rid of the things when they did. SATA era stuff isn't quite so bad, but they're still far less reliable than damn near any other component in your machine.
I'm so glad that all the optical drive fuss is over. As I said in the video, once I find a good one (normally a Pioneer) I'm set to go with the machine, but finding one from the stash is always a pain.
ItsMyNaturalColour I have a few old ones kicking about somewhere but I have no idea if they still work. I'll check them out some day... maybe. I'll think of you if I ever get around to it and they do actually work. A few of them were Sony and Plextor ones which were always pretty reliable, as reliable as optical can be that is. I currently have Lite-On (the new name of Plextor) Blu-ray drive that I rip all my erm... Blu-rays with for the media server. That reminds me, I really need a bigger NAS. I've used a full 4TB drive up for my iTunes library! Don't worry, I have backups!
why do your eyes shake so much?
My G3 is faster lol 1.1 ghz
Crap im late :D
What is the exact pioneer DVD drive model number? I can keep my eye open i got a ton of older computers floating around and a friend runs a local PC repair shop.
Tiger was my first OS on a 2006 Intel iMac, when it was current. My favourite will always be Snow Leopard - and that is what I used at University for all my music production work. Got Tiger running on a 12" Alu PowerBook G4 just the other day after installing an mSATA SSD in it with an adapter. Bizarrely, it even installed from a USB stick. It absolutely screams along and is very, very responsive.
Good times.