The Worlds Fastest Power Mac G3 Blue & White (Part 5) | IMNC
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Welcome to the final of many parts in this PowerPC goodness crammed series. During this series, we'll be packing the absolute best technology that this machine can support into this gorgeous Blue & White G3 minitower, creating what I believe will be the fastest B&W G3 on the planet. This is the most involved Power Mac upgrade series I've ever produced, changing every single major component in this box and adding as much as I can to make this machine fly. Sit back, relax and enjoy some mighty fine PowerPC geeky goodness.
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1999 g3: tiny processor fan, 2004 g5: huge quad airplane propeller :)
Someone probably has already suggested this, but you could always re-seat the ram tallest to shortest. A nice ramp of Ram! :D
Really liked this video set, even though I'm a PC person myself.
This series really gave me back my love for PowerPc macs
I've been upgrading a few old Power Macs. The fan noise went to almost zero on all of them after replacing the 120mm system fan and the PSU fan with Noctua ones:
A couple of hours well spent of my life. A belated ATA BOY. A testament to Apple’s software and hardware developers and the hard work of the Users (teachers, students, business professionals, and to the-one-and-only IMNC.
That was a super fascinating series, thank you so much for making it! I used to have a Power Mac G3 BW, all the way until 2007 when I got an Intel Macbook. I remember overclocking it, and adding as much RAM as I could find for it. I had the same Pioneer optical drive as you did, btw! I read it was the same as used in the Power Mac G5, and that it was compatible with mine, so I got one. Made burning CDs so much faster! I didn't have much money for hardware upgrades, but that Power Mac was probably my most loved computer ever.
Nowadays I use a Framework laptop with Linux, and after seeing your series, I had to try Geekbench 2 on it. My little i5-1240p ran the benchmark in 32 bit, and scored 27000 points. I also have an eGPU (RTX 4070), and I wish I could do the same graphics tests as you did. It's crazy to see the advancements of computing.
Wonderful job watching you put this G3 together. I love tinkering with old hardware to upgrade to faster and better. Thank you for your time sharing this project.
what you could do with the ram, is re-arrange them based of height, so that their going from shortest in front to tallest in back or something, and that would make them a bit more presentable.
You can push that CPU to 1.1ghz no problem. Mine starts to get iffy at 1.2.
yea but whats the point of that.. zero performance gain.. just leave it be
I lost a G4 upgrade in the same kind of Power Mac to overclocking. In hindsight, not worth squeezing out that tiny bit of extra performance.
I’ve enjoyed watching this series of vids, the highs and lows of PPC meddling lol. On the raid front, I’ve tried similar, without the SSD just ide and, the one thing that I remember is that sometimes on a restart, the machine tries to start from the wrong drive. It sounds odd if your trying to start from raid 0, but I remember having to start, holding the Apple key to get boot drive selection, making sure I selected the opposite drive to the one that’s auto selected. That’s one thing I tried to get raid 0 working as boot. Hope this helps if you try again with SSD Raid. Thanks for interesting vids.
One other thing could the dead cmos battery have effected the boot of the os when trying to boot raid 0 SSD
Be cool if you could find replacement front door (the marked up apple logo)
LOL you called your Boot Drive also Macintosh SSD. I thought I was the only one :)
Must say, I so glad I held off and watched all the parts together :D Great project Tom!
The upgrades have a massive difference, one thing i have done on an old single core atom x86 board is add the fan by slightly bending the fins on the heatsink the ones out of sight just enough so there is less of a gap between them so i can use screws to hold the fan on it worked well and fan was very secure .
paulb4uk those same peripherals would perform four times as fast on even a solo core intel cpu
Awesome series. I just got my hands on a BnW G3 and want to have some fun with it. I've never seen an interior on one like this, though. It seems to have a much larger case fan and a single HDD plate that holds 3 drives side-by-side, held in by a single screw on the far-right edge, with no way to install a HDD stack caddie like yours.
That was awesome! Can't wait to see what comes next in your PPC world!!
Great video, Tom :-) This whole Series has been very useful & helpful, on my work on my Power Mac G4 MDD.
Great video series Tom! You've inspired me to preform some upgrades in some of my older systems.
That little fan is so cute! :3 Love the series, very fun to watch.
What a MAD project! Bit of a shame you couldn't get the RAID0 SSD setup working but those benchmarks are just out of this world regardless. Good to see it all together and looking seriously smart after years of you banging on about upgrading the thing ;)
Yeah new episode. Thanks Tom :) I must check it out
I used to find Star Wars: Jedi Knight II - Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy, Return to Castle Wolfenstein and Aliens vs Predator all ran really well on my 600Mhz G3 iMac with a Rage 128. So they should fly on this beast.
Awesome video, Tom. I just love these kind of series. They are really entertaining and fun to watch. Can't wait for the future project on your other macs.
Really glad you enjoyed :)
I think that music suits your endcard more than the other song.
im glad i was on twitter at the right time so i could watch this early
I wonder is you had Archiver package and all of it's it's plugins would the problem with DMG files go away as there must be a version for the MAC OS, I wonder why you didn't try an ATI/AMD AIO Wonder card although it doesn't have DVI or HDMI might give you the resolution you are looking for.
Excellent way to start the weekend hell yes! 💯
Great series Tom, I've really enjoyed watching it (as I do all your videos.)
awesome and very informative series, especially for a ppc noob like me. I really enjoyed watching it. :D
That was an amazing series, can't wait to see the final video !
Hey i love you're videos this inspired me to get my first mac and i love it it.I am watching from south Georgia USA
put that CPU upgrade in the iMac! (jk, unless you can :P)
awesome video and awesome series! keep up the good work, I cant wait to see the PPCPromise!
also what is the name of the song at the end?
LOL you got lucky with the fan. :)
I'm sorry for the long comment but if anybody can help me, it's you guys who are reading these comments! I bought a powermac G5 but I'm having an issue where when I turn it on, it works wonderfully for about 10 seconds to 1 minute, but then whatever's on the screen just freezes and the fans slowly get louder and louder :(
It arrived with no HD, but I bought a mercury 3G SSD. I stuck it in this morning and booted to the CD drive (a leopard install disk from another mac). It worked perfectly this first time I booted it, and I even formatted the SSD in disk utilities on the install CD. I didn't go through with the install though because it said Mac OS wasn't compatible with the machine but that's because it's just the disk from another mac. I powered it off and went to work.
When I got home I made a USB stick with bootable leopard and booted the g5 into open firmware. This is the first time it locked up and the fans went full blast. I unplugged the USB stick and tried open firmware again, but still full blast. I removed the SSD I stuck in earlier and tried again, but nope, still locked up & full blast. I then tried booting from targeted disk with my powerbook but the g5 froze on the boot menu thing that shows up when you hold alt/option (but that same boot menu worked without freezing earlier in the morning!).
I googled the problem and reset the SMU. The first time I booted it after that, it booted to the leopard CD no problem! But then I tried again booting into the boot options menu with alt/option and it froze. I tried two more times to boot from the CD and it also froze each time.
The weird thing is, it chimes every time I boot it, no matter if it's going to freeze or if it's going to work. Also, when it freezes booting to the leopard CD, sometimes it freezes on just a grey screen before the CD drive revs up, sometimes it freezes after the CD drive starts going, and the apple logo shows up.
I don't know a whole lot about Powermacs, and I knew buying this from ebay was a long shot since it's quite old, but honestly I am DEVASTATED right now! I bought an SSD, a quadro, and 8GB of ram for this (I haven't installed any of that btw) but I'm not sure if my machine even works now or not :(
Excellent video-series dude!
The Firmtek SeriTek line are PCI-X SATA cards that are backwards compatible with the 33mhz 64bit slots in your G3. That should give your double the performance of your current card. Also, it supports 4 drives instead of only 2.
Can't wait to watch it! And it's 1h long, that's so awesome! :)
World's fastest G5 Quad! : D
Awesome video Tom, kind sad to see that the upgrades have all ended now :( Can't wait to see what you do with this machine if you get the software. Did the bluetooth adaptor work that you installed ?
YAY Thanks, :3
1 Hour of awesomeness!!! missed your series :9
Neat project! You didn't show if the Bluetooth dongle works or not though.
You ever looked into putting an OS X machine in a decent pc case for quiet air cooling, atxg4 power supply conversion
Hi Tom another great video. I have a question. I put up my early 2008 8-Core Mac Pro on Craiglists asking $900 and I had a offered for $500 (w/original box and everything). Is that a good price to let it go? Thank you.
Specs:
2 x 2.8GHz Quad-Corre Intel Xeon
12GB DDR2 Memory
120GB SSD
ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB
8x USB 2.0
Firewire 400/800
Bluetooth 3.0
Airport Wifi 802.1a/b/g
honestly, for the specs id say a minimum of 600 dollars its still a very decent PC with the specs
I agree. I got mine for £400 for the exact same specs. They are beasts for EVERYTHING. and i mean EVERYTHING...
i got the exact same computer, i own a repair store and a guy sold it to me for 10 dlls (yes 10 dlls) it had only a faulty hard drive, i offer him to repair it but he didn't want it.
love the long uploads thank u very much
I should update my Dual G5 to see how far I can go with it. Parts are cheap. I have previously run an SSD in it, which is really quick, but I should do more to it.
TOM, back in the day when most computers only had small heat sinks like this, the ones that had fans just sat on top like yours and there were just fatter screws that screwed down and "self-tapped" into the area between the fins of the heat sink. Not sure if this would work in your case or not. Also, check macintoshgarden (org) for iLife 05. They have all PPC versions I believe, but 05 for sure.
may you do more vlogs plz
Hi IMNC,love the series, I have a mac mini pro,Mac G4 and G5,none ow which seem to behave themselfs (which is why I'm watching your vids for hints) cheeky question for you,the G5 boots when only the cd is attached ,but not the HDD. Any idea if this is the motherboard or the PSU?,plug in both,you get a click and nothing happens,no power up,same again when adding a HDD to the PATA CD cable.Cheers!
great job with the Mac! get a screen recorder and record something with it, which it CAN handle cause of the new processor!
You should get Halo on it for the showcase. Also loving this series man! :)
Great job! However, you got QE working but not CI. Which things are unusable without CI?
Fivos Sakellis The water effect when you drop a widget onto the screen in dashboard, that's about it I think! It doesn't matter half as much in Tiger as it does in Leopard which is handy for older machines like this.
So if it was possible to run Leopard on this machine, you wouldn't have the transparent menu bar and such? At least you got smooth UI effects such as the genie minimize effect.
No one said you must have CPU director to keep the frequency up.
YEAH BOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
One thing I've learned from these videos is that I wouldn't want the worlds fastest power mac G3 if it was given to me.
have you ever try this monster under mac os 9? and if you do, what were the lecture on the system profiler?
Hi Tom, If you were interested then i do actually have all of that Apple software that you mentioned near the end of the video if you wanted to get contact with providing you with the disc images then we can do that somehow if you wanted.
use this for your powerpc promise series x)
531 is a decent score - is that in Geekbench 2? its very close to Power Mac G4 (Quicksilver) 867Mhz (gb score: 541) and just under my result for my Tualatin 1.3ghz Celeron (gb score:577) probably closer to a Quicksilver 933mhz model from 2002
does anyone know the song he used at the end?
great video
``I won’t get everything done in this seating.‘‘Tom said
I said ``your not at work,it’s not a seating it’s an episode.‘‘
i hope its ok to ask a question. i have just got a powerbook g4. i am about to try installing 10.5 leopord as i found a UA-cam showing it. Can i manage to upgrade it to a 10.7 like lion or anything? i have a few mac games that need 10.7?
What’s the boot speed from the sata drive? Is it faster than IDE?
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Can I ask you something, Tom?
Where did you get The Sims for PPC Mac?
Is this going to be a pc that you have setup for your kid to use In your living room or something?
Where's the best place I could get one of these, I've been looking for months for a nice one :)
If you could be an PowerMac G3 or a the latest IMAC what would you be and why??
"Looks pretty damn cool" I see what you did there...
Are those magnifying glasses you're wearing?
what is the specs of the super g3? Sorry didn't watch the whole series :(
just tried Geekbench 88219 taken 10 sec to do my pcs about 8 years old is that good or bad
I have question and i couldn't find an answer. Does a pc rated ide pci card work in a g4?
i got you beat bro, i have a 1.1 ghz G3 upgrade card in mine. Gigabit ethernet, Radeon 9200, Blu Ray Burner just for funzies, and the Sata Card with two ocz ssds in a raid 0
Tom, could you give the name of the music at the end of the vidéo please ? Thx !!
I think my highly grumpy iMac G5 needs some software and hardware upgrades similar to these. Anyone got solutions for iMacs crashing and not responding until I have to force shut it down??? It's getting jolly irritating now... thanks
ItsMyNaturalColour Did that modern Bluetooth worked? Because I'm looking for USB bluetooth for my Powermac G5.
RAID 0 really makes difference.
Can you put a mac g5 in a g3 case?
I have a flashed pci geforce fx5200 256Mb with QE and CI Enable :)
Have you thought of lasic eye surgery
*******FINALLY*******
wait.. *ONE HOUR*??????????????????????????????
Yaay! But will it play UA-cam [joking]??????
Nice video anyway.
Get - XLR8 Mach Speed Control - it is a much better CPU controller software than PowerLogix....I have used it for over 10 years with my B+W G3/750gx.......and works with many more upgrades.
so, am i ok to assume that the bluetooth 4.0 was too new?
tom you modded apple g3 seem faster then modern ps tablets
Did you install Halo?
Yep!
if you find the right diameter screws you can screw the fan directly to the heat sync
ItsMyNaturalColour doom legacy of doom for ppc macs.
theirs 10.4.11 update to i have on my mac
Just screw it to the heat sync I do it all the time to heat syncs.
Hey dude I'm getting me and iMac 20 inch late 2008 model for $170 is maxed out with four gigs of RAM and a 500 GB hard drive
blake daigle lol 4gb of ram
Your video didn't show up in the subbox... Weird.
Worlds Fastest G5? I own Apple PowerMac G5 Quad G5 2.5GHz with Apple nVidia Quadro 4500 and Apple AirPort Extreme on RunWay (combo 802.11g and BlueTooth), all original Apple made and or branded
Get a pny nivida 6200 256mb pci and flash the rom to ppc mac. It will SMOKE your 9200, literally smoke it
Hey, can anyone link me a 10.4 iso?
Nice work! But there is still a better graphix option for your machine. If you find a GeForce 6200 PCI matching this
www.amazon.com/PNY-GeForce-256MB-Graphics-VCG62256PPB/dp/B000VA5GJY
PCB Layout (which means with BGA, NOT TSOP!, ram chips), it can be flashed with a mac rom. And this even gives you full CoreImage support with a G4-upgrade.
Mine was faster than yours via Sonnet g4 1.2ghz with 2mb l3, and pci nvidia 6200 256mb. Halo in 720p with everything maxxed out. Still pretty outdated tho, but fun to build
Poor MDD ;_;
LOL ...iDE raide... thats how you know Apple i-thing marketing is sucessful.
There is an application called ATICellerator (thomas.perrier.name) that you could try to use to overclock that 9200.
What happened to this guy?