2009 Mazdaspeed 3 Test Drive | I WANT ONE!
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2024
- I really like the car, but need to find a cleaner one.
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Fellow Mazdaspeed guy here, mazdaspeeds are great especially some simple mods.
These cars are a blessing and so raw I have an 09 and man it’s fun and so unfiltered just be careful of timing chain and vvt issues holy cow
Did you replace your Timing chain and VVT yet?
@@tyronenur2373 yup it’s no small task
@@tyronenur2373 cost me $1700 at the shop
Amen! I love mine with bolt ons
@@bottom_lizard192 holy fuck are you serious??? Why so much??
Your keys were making that noise bro
Buying an 09 tomorrow... wish me luck
Jk I bought an is300
Ask about hpfp internals they need to b upgraded. And step one colder spark plugs
Love the 08.5 and 09, probably what I'll end up with once I get sick of the diff and t case leaks on my ms6 they're awesome cars
@Back2FutureFan6 did you get it
Horrible cars
Them Honda boys lol... Shift at 5500, get alignment, hold that steering wheel tight and learn to whoop Honda butt 🤣 Mazdaspeed4Life! Oh yeah... Don't buy from a mom and pop dealership. They don't give a shit about the cars. The didn't even take time to change the oil, add new tires and get alignment.
Bro that’s facts! I learned my lesson with used car lots. They do the bare bare minimum to get the car sold and hide issues.
I had a black 2008 Mazda 3 manual sedan for a little bit before I got my 9th gen Si. I could see having fun with a Mazdaspeed3 for sure. Excited for you guys - I love the research and test driving that’s involved in car shopping! Looking forward to seeing what else you find.
I purchased my 09 last year with 50k miles on it and its honestly the most fun i've had in a car, super fun to drive, mine isnt bad on gas at all and its a super sleeper as most people think its just a regular old mazda 3. Not one problem on it with now 85k miles on it, just make sure you watch for if the stock turbo is smoking and clunks especially in the rear but that isnt a expensive problem if so. Other then that and the VVT its a super reliable car with a great community and some very good tuners once you get into modding it if you do. First things for sure, High pressure fuel pump>Motor mounts to help reduce torque steer and wheel hop, those 2 should be the first for any speed. The rear clunk in your car is most likely the rear sway bar end links/bushings, very common on these and its a cheap and easy fix.
I have a 2007 its pretty far from stock. It has 430hp-450tq. Imagine the tq steer in that lmao That thumping sound is most likely a strut.
Definitely a strut. I just got my 2012 back in January and it was making a clunking noise in the rear especially when hitting bumps. Replaced stock blown struts with Ksport coilovers and new rear sway links
Nah, my car is making the same noise and all struts have been replaced. It’s notorious for those clunks. It’s most likely a sway bar link
GREAT VIDEO!! 🔥 thanks for bringing us on a ride along as you look for either your next car or Vivians
Mazdaspeed 3s are very nice cars, and quite enjoyable. This is a stock one, but once it's tuned; you'll enjoy it. These are great sleeper cars, and very raw, so aimed at the enthusiasts crowd. Price is very high though for a gen one. Nice to see one got to experience a mazdaspeed 3. Great video!
These cars are cool. You almost never see one that isn’t modded completely personal to the owner. They’re usually dedicated owners. It’s strange to see one not modded and neglected.
This one isn’t worth it, but I wouldn’t count out the Mazdaspeed3.
The Mazdaspeed 3 is a great car, I drove a modded 1st gen and I loved it.
They are cool cars but I am with ya on this one!! Too any red flags! I look forward to seein what car you guys end up getting!! Definitely don’t settle ! Keep up the great ya Cam!! Have a great rest of the week!
This a definitely a great content making channel love the videos you bring and we appreciate the hard work 😎
When I saw that you were In Auburn, CA that was so cool! I lived in Penryn for a while and loved flying down the back roads in Auburn. I actually picked up a Mazda 3 hatch 2.5 from Auburn Toyota years ago and its an awesome daily driver.
Loving the content bro! Mazdaspeed 3s are lowkey nice 👀
Just bought a 2013 a month ago and love it. 367hp
MS3's are dope. Great little hot hatches that can be modded for decent power. They were the arch nemesis to my MKV GTI haha.
I just wish Mazda brought them back. The Speeds deserve another chance =[
I had a modded 08 Mazdaspeed3 that had 216,000 miles and then I sold it. New engine at 175k but still used the original turbo. Thing was a beast and my favorite car ive had. Now I have the 2020si which is still fun and a cool car, the mazdaspeed takes the cake
Mazda 3 is a great platform. Can’t go wrong with one of those. Easy to maintain and modify. But then again a GT Mustang of any generation is also a solid choice.
I love my 1st gen!! Granted mine is in much much better condition, but it’s very rare to find a low mile well taken care of one these days unfortunately. I got extremely lucky with my speed 🙏🏼
I used to have that true red mazda 3 there. So beautiful. Easy to spot in parking lot.
that clunk sound coming from the trunk is either a worn sway bar link or a broken sway bar link. my car makes the same clunk sounds coming from what it sounds like the trunk
My first car bought new was a 2010 ms3, blew my 9th gen si out of the water. Loved that car
Picked up an 08 MS3 w/ 36k miles. It's Hella small. I'm 6'3 250. But it's Hella awesome. Still feeling out the clutch from 1st to 2nd. It's... sensitive. Steering is stiff on mine as well. That dealership though... OIL SHOULD BE FRESH?
Mazdaspeed 3! You didn’t drive the greatest example of a Mazdaspeed 3, but as you shared in the video, you’re aware of that. If you’re still looking for a Mazdaspeed 3, there’s a few things to look for. Mainly, the VVT. Listen for the chain slap on cold start, and check for chain tension (right under the oil cap on a first generation). Next, the turbocharger. The stock K04 doesn’t have the longest life span. They’re problematic. There’s a longer list of things to look for on the Mazdaspeed FB groups / forums if you’re interested.
Also, there’s lots of aftermarket for these! With a few simple modifications, such as HPFP (a necessity for any performance related bolt-on), a rear motor mount (will drastically lessen the torque steer and make shifting a bit easier, too), and a nice set of coilovers, you’ll be set.
I miss my Mazdaspeed 3. Shouldn’t have sold it.
Thanks for the detailed comment! I would live to drive a cleaner example i really enjoyed it!
Hey Cody do you have a IG. Advice would be greatly appreciated. I purchased a 2008 Mazdaspeed3 l week ago. Any advice for tuning or what to upgrade part wise. Mine has 140k. Maintenance is unknown
I have a 2008.5 Speed3 and love it. the cars with the alcantara interior are more expensive. That one had it which is probably why it was a 9k asking price. Speed3s are rare to find unmodded so thats another big plus. I've put every mile on my car and my rear bumper is in teh same shape, and I've got a few dings too. Doesn't make me someone who neglected the car. I garaged it every day of its life. The war wounds mean that thing is a runner. Dirty oil can be any number of things. I think you should reconsider a purchase of that rig because you can't replace the fact that its unmodded. Every kid with 20k in 2010 bought one of these and bolted on every part in the world which caused problems for them. This rig here appears to be a nice starting point that you are going to have a very hard time finding again. And you most assuredly wont find another rig like that unmodded with alcantara. Two big things to check when buying a used MS3. First 3 seconds after starting a cold car listen for a timing chain noise. Modded cars stretch the timing chain and it sometimes hits the cover for a second or two after starting. Also, check for blue smoke out exhaust after cold starting before it gets warm to check if the turbo seals are worn. My auto channel is called "POV Garage". Hit me up if you want any tips on the platform. PS the Gen1 Speeds are the money. Gen2 is wack. :) Final thought I think that Speed3 is a runner and you should definitely reconsider. These rigs really are hooligans and they are Zoom Zoom to the max
I’ve had two Mazdaspeed 3s and I’ve loved both. However, I can’t for the life of me figure out why some people say their speed is 2008.5. Did something change halfway through the year or what?
@@ace-pl4qh Mid year revision with alcantara interior on GT models is the difference. The 2008s had the lesser quality cloth. And some new paint colors. If its a 2008 and white, its got the alcantara inside because I dont think they made them in white until 2008.5. And stuff like being able to play mp3 CDs in the deck were introduced. White needles in the gauge cluster... Not much else different afaik
2016-2018 WRX are coming way down in price with the reduction of the bro tax. Great and reliable platform and they really hold their value over time! Plus, MO’ POWA BABY. Awesome content bro! Keep it up💪💪
Reliable 😨
Just bought a 2010 mazdaspeed3. Love it way more than the si
Have u checked out Genesis coupes either the 3.8 V6 or 2.0 Turbo
I managed to get a super clean 2008 Speed3 from the original owner. So much fun
Good news boys I got a wrecked 2020 civic si, I'll be fixing it up and maybe document the whole thing youtube too, wish me luck its my first time doing such a thing, cant wait to be a civic si owner too 😁 Also great video Cameron !!!
How much did u get it for? Lol and how bad of a wreck
Check front control arms and alignment. These things hug the road and are very stable at high speeds
The noise in the back is the hatch lever. They are infamous for that especially when you go over any uneven surfaces
What part is that?
Ariel Navarrete game off the hatch panel. It’s the locking mechanism
Ik this video is old but the rough shifting is probably the motor mounts and the thumping in the back is the rear shocks so probably needs front struts too
im thinking bout getting a 2009 mazda axela are they good to drive
Did they fix the vvt and chain issues in second gen?
Stock they are quick but once you start putting mods they can be pretty fast. You will need to upgrade the high pressure fuel pump rear engine mount and get a front mount intercooler plus a tune from Freektune.
I've had my 09 mazdaspeed3 for just over a month and I absolutely love it, I bought it stock but I've since modified it (short ram intake, turbo inlet pipe, 50/50 bypass/bov, 2nd car delete and both resonators deleted along with a tune by freektune) and the car feels completely different then it was in stock form, I paid 5.8 for it. It needed work but nothing I couldn't handle (I'm a tech at Ford) the rear noise in your video sounds like it could of been the rear trailing arm bushings, and the shifter is definitely notchy as that's exactly how mine is especially 1st to 2nd but I'm okay with that and after everything is warmed up it's basically gone.
Awesome! Im gonna keep looking for a clean one
@@Camhill182 absolutely, very fun car. Mine is in similar shape as the one you test drove, I needed to balance the front tires, change the passenger and rear motor mounts, passenger front sway bar link was loose and causing a really bad metal clunk/bang, not too many dents but alot of scratches. But none the less it's very fun to drive especially modified. And the sketchy steering maybe a loose/bad sway bar bushing or link. Definitely still look for a better one. My previous car was a 06 Acura TL and I do not regret changing things up and going with the Mazda.
Should look into using your blinker
That’s a Gen 1 MPS. Here in Australia 09’ was the first year of the gen 2 and it was much more refined. Although I love my gen 1 for the rawness
Do you think she would like the Veloster N? I know you test drove it, earlier but maybe she would enjoy it? Or just wait for the refresh 86/BRZ
I definitely suggest an N i watch a huy on here with an N with jb4 and bolt ons dude drags ppl 335is get smoked even from digs they are fun little hatchbacks and look aggressive as hell
we have a price limit of 20k. and no, she does not like them at all
@@stevenmendez7447 I mean that's all opinion, I got to drive my friends dad's love the interior and they drive great, personally I think the motor sounds like shit and they look awful but definitely an awesome option
Nice video.
The thumping you heard in the back is probably worn swaybar bushes, common problem, easy fix.
The stock engine does lose power after 6000rpm but with a simple tune that can be sorted.
The car is not for everybody, like you said, an enthusiast car.
Hope you find a better example of either a Gen 1 or Gen 2 and actually go with it, you'll have memories in that car. ( Some good, some bad) :)
I owned a 2007 speed 3. Big turbo running 380whp thing was a beast. Still have some parts if I do buy it
Just bought my 09 on Monday. Already had it tuned on E85 mix and it pulls like a train. Had some mods done to it prior but so happy with the purchase. I suggest checking private sellers if you're willing to pay full. They can sometimes be cheaper and better maintained.
awesome! I really, REALLY liked it, I just wish that one was cleaner. I prefer the looks of the first gen, so if I do ever pick one up, I think itll be a first gen
I loved my 2012 speed 3. Made a big mistake by letting my nephew borrow it for a few weeks while he lived with me...he beat the heck out of it so I sold it. Hoping Mazda makes them again, maybe with AWD as an option this time. Looks like Toyota is doing a turbo version of their corolla hatch as well.
Mazda is making a turbo mazda3 with awd but its only automatic.
It's crazy, I've been watching you for a while and owned an 8th gen si fbo. I got bored of it, wasn't a perfect car by any means and I had put a lot of work in it just to get it running good. So I sold my si and bought an 09 speed 3. Turbo blew up 20 minutes in on the 3 hour drive home. New turbo comes in, I replace it and the next day timing went out. The car is in pristine condition so saving up for a new engine. Owned it several months now only driven it a half hour lol. Same color as that one. If you decide to buy it and got some questions hmu
And yeah the power falling off at 6k is normal with these cars
Yeah good idea not buying the car, it definitely needed a lot of work
You should check out mazdaspeed 6. Awd and same engine as the mps3. Only made them for two years. I just got one and love it.
I GOT IT!!!
YOUR GIRL GETS THE CIVIC, YOU GO CAR SHOPPING!!!!! GET A 2011-2014 WRX AND THANK ME LATER!!!!!
Foocus st is the better buy and we smoke wrx’s all day
Yeah I’d say get a older WRX would be dope.
I second this, although any WRX would be awesome
Focus STs are great I love mine
Or just get a VII GTI, slap an IS38 on it and put bus lengths on all the cars in this thread without needing WOT lol
🔥🔥🔥👍👍👍 good video bro.
The mazdaspeed 3 will do circles around the si in any generation
Sound is definitely the rear strut. Had it on my car and had to re-seat the rubber boot on it.
got mine for 1700$ canadian last week i love it
Speed/MPS are incredible cars when maintained and cared for correctly, which means 5000km between oil changes and preferably you are an enthusiast who knows the history of your car and what to look out for. This one is a hard pass with oil changes like that. But in general when buying a speed you must check all engine mounts (OEM are horrible), check for bad turbo seals (white smoke after at least 5 mins idle), check pivot shaft seal, oil in intercooler piping (means your turbos gone), PCV system, etc.
These cars are finicky but once you've been in the game for a while you learn the ins and outs. I'm on my second engine (first POS engine was ragged on and blew up on me in a week), finally about to go upgraded turbo with full bolt ons and all mounts on my 6 should be making at least 350awhp :)
Bro i own one exactly like that one lol definitely was not stock. I noticed it is missing the intercooler shrouds idk what they are called but they go right on top of the front bumper where the hood latches. It directs air directly to the inercooler. Also the oil is probably low cuz you checked it cold. Owners manual says to let it get to operating temperature and then let it sit for 5 min then check.
Definitely a fun car to drive tho! Will drive mine until the wheels fall off
I've been wanting a speed3 for so many years! Kinda mad i chose the fc3.
I have a 2008 speed 3 and I picked mine up in about that same condition with 116k for 5000 and the one in the vid I wouldn't pay over 5400 tbh. Like you said they are pretty raw and unrefined but in my opinion, that's what makes them fun especially once you get into the aftermarket. But of course, these cars have a handful of problems that would turn people away, the stock turbo is notorious for having bad seals and burning oil mine is on its way out right now lol also the clunking you heard was either the swaybar endlinks or bushings or both if you were unlucky. But yeah car in the vid was a hard pass.
Finding an unmolested gen 1 with lowish miles is very rare now.. if this was 1 year ago this would be an accurate price here in Ca. .. the thumping is most likely the end links, basically a good suspension maintenance is needed. I agree that if you aren't hunting for one the price is a bit high.
If you are wanting a speed, I'd get one from a private seller vs dealership..also stock ecu tune the power band is really short. It comes on in a burst and then falls flat on its face. A custom tune will fix that
Ok
Thanks for the vid!
I've had a lot of fun with my 2008. I picked it over the Subaru WRX, but the MS3 handled better. I think you over-estimated the hp for the ver 1. I think you're quoting the ver 2 hp. The rear bumper is not metal so scratches are not going to be an issue there.
I own a 2009 Mazdaspeed 3 for awhile now ... once Moded you head to a lot of problems
I love my speed3 its my favorite daily driver that ive owned. They are a blast todrive. Hopefully all the issues have been taking care of, or else tou need to be good with a wrench lol
Thumping noise in rear is rear strut mount. Easy fix but struts are probably gone as well
You don't think the thumping sound was from the keys in the ignition hitting the steering column on the bumpy road? I know when I have gotten used to driving a car with keyless start and then go in a car that doesn't that sound throws me off.
It was absolutely not the keys hitting the steering column
@@Camhill182 word.
The thumping noise isn't the keys?
I have a 2007 MS3 owned it since it had 16 miles on it. Its now tuned to make an even 400 horses to the ground. Have any questions let me know. My 400whp dyno pull is posted on my channel. That was back in 2013...Still on same tune making same reliable power
Edit my 2007 is in better condition than that one. AND your right good luck finding a true stock one
I've owned an mps 3 aero... from what you've said you will need to do the following...
Gearbox oil change... 75quid
Poly bushes... 800quid
New turbo as this one lacks suction.
Thoughts on a Focus ST. Under 20k will get you a 17 or 18 with low miles. I own a 2017 and it’s been a pure joy to drive. Much less torque steer vs the speed 3 but it’s still a beast.
I love the STs, but she doesnt want to drive one
The thumping could be the struts. I have a 2007 and all four struts are bad but I have put that car through a lot lol
I think that sound in the back is the struts not 100% but my prelude sounded like that relatively easy fix just time consuming
So make sure you do corksport or auto tech hpfp internals before you do anything AND Ngk iridium 6510 plugs and then get a tune by Justin at freektuned. The oem shifter bushing is plastic that’s why 1st to second is garage to fix that get a jbr throw out bearing and metal shifter bushing from corksport
Just get it give it some love make sure vvt is done and I promise you you won't regret it
I think shifter would be “throw” and clutch would be “take up” or “grab”? I don’t know either. I’m super weary with Used Mazda, nothing against the cars or anything but just have had bad experience with that particular model
Nah, it’s called clutch pedal “travel”
To really appreciate a mazdaspeed3 you have to red line 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear and hold on to your nickels because it will fly. They are so much fun. I own a 07 first gen and to me, its one of the best cars to own. The torque steer makes you feel like you are driving a man's car. Any way, i hope you or Vivian get a Mazdaspeed3 and drive it until the wheels fall off, because there is no car like it. Hope you find a good one.
I have a 2010 speed3 amazing car especially with some easy mods, but yea the throw from 1st to 2nd is a little rough but you get used to it!
Yeah on my 2nd gen the 1 2 can be a little tricky
Olympic yea I’ve driven many other car and my clutch on my speed for whatever reason seems really aggressive and you have to get really good at it
I just bought an 08, with 85K on the clock for $5300, and it is cleaner than this one. I feel I got fairly lucky to find a almost stock (has coilovers) one. So far it has been a blast to drive.
The most shocking thing to me was getting insurance. Only $45/month for full coverage. I was expecting it to be a lot more. Perhaps they don't know the difference between the speed 3 and the normal 3. I was actually paying more for insurance on a standard 09 ford focus from the same insurance company.
Yeahhh my steering in my 08 is even looser than that one but im assuming i need a steering rack
You should make a video on what you do for a living (If you haven't already). You seem to be pretty financially free for your age! I'm sure the video could come as inspiration to not only myself, but to others who are looking to move up in the car world.
Speed3 is a cool car. First car I ever drove that had torque steer and before I knew torque steer was a thing 😆😆
Dude same!!! Lmao when I first test drove it I thought something with the suspension broke once I did a pull and the car started going all crazy lmao. Then I learned what torque steer was and was like, fuck ye
You will not regret this
I bought one New in 2009 and loved the car and put 230,000 miles on it. These cars are for someone who likes to crank a wrench and you will dump money into it. Use factory parts only and most of the time that is all that is available for them. Do lots of research and join forums to learn about these cars. It is a love hate thing with them.
Good car, what about Acura TL TypeS 2008 models(think about it), or Civic FD2 typeR 2008, all these ones are natural aspirated🔥🔥🔥
Great sports car that can keep up with sti
Listen to me.....
1. Change the oil to Amsoil 0w30 signature series
2. Change the manual transmission oil to Amsoil severe gear 75w90
3. Use ONLY premium gas....94 octane if possible in your area
4. Change your tires to Michelin Pilot Sport 4S
5. Replace your spark plugs to NGK iridiums or better
6. Change your air filter to a decent one so the car breathes better.
It will drive really well after this.....like new.
My brother used to be mechanic for Mazda dealership for long time and he worked on Mazdaspeed 3 a lot. The stock turbocharger were terrible so people end up replacing them all of the time. So thats gonna cost a lot of money.
Changing to aftermarket turbocharger is recommended but it needs some extra tuning so gonna cost a lot money. Idk how much mileage it had but based on the price probably too much. So good thing you all didn't buy it.
Mazdaspeed3 will definitely smoke your 10th gen SI.
this one did not feel as strong as my tuned si.
Certainly sounded clunky down that rough road- Clutches are super expensive with dual mass flywheel - a majority of these have a hard life and are heavily modded and the mods are removed when sold. What was the mileage?- Find a good one with a good service record- Mind you that goes for any car- Low mileage is also a big plus.
The mileage was 118,000
Cameron Hill - If it’s been used hard that’s a lot of miles for $9000. I bought my one owner Gen 2 (2011) for £9300 with 23,000 miles 2 years ago in the UK - absolutely love it. It was a toss up between the Mazda and a Civic type r 😊
Maybe a 8th gen civic si? Or or a S2K ?
My friend’s mazda 3 has that noise, it was to top plates. You need a lift to fix them I think, he didn’t bothered and the suspension fell out of the car after 4 months. Big oops
Owned a regular 3 and the back ends were notorious for being weak when it comes to suspension. I had to replace mine at 100k KM, Probably what the noise is.
Maybe try to get a older sti /possible hatchback , or 4door
How about an older model Audi S4? I had a 07 a while back and loved it! You can definitely find one below 10k!
Nah, not for youtubing
Audi cars are the best especially when comes to repair prices 😒😒just a matter of when not if
Id love a first gen TT one day as a project. But not until ive reeeeally established myself on youtube
Out of curiosity..... Were you on the youtube channel cars and coffee kings?
Not to my knowledge, no
I had one of those Mazdaspeed3s. I wasn't so happy with the way the transmission felt, the transition between gears didn't feel good in hand.
First is extremely short on them, you may just be trying to clutch out a bit early.
Sounds like the suspension is shot (thumping) I have a a 3 hatch from 06, that car is supposed to be super planted. Those oem Mazda struts tend to blow quicker than most cars. That car has had a rough life
The sway bar bushings go out on these and make a very similar thump. Pretty easy fix.
The mazdaspeed 3 is way way way easier to work than those Subaru boxer engines.
Good video bro, maybe try finding the infamous Miata for your girl? Could get a lot of mod videos out of it and it’ll be a fun ride
Yea, ive considered them very briefly. Its nowhere near the top of our list, but theres a lot of content to be made for sure
I was looking for a Mazdaspeed 3 when I ended up getting my 9th gen Si. I feel I should’ve waited some more then with Mazdaspeed 3 it just needed an upgraded head unit for Bluetooth :(
BMO Hey maybe create a new comment and copy and paste so Cameron will see it?
The Forte GT is nice, it just doesn’t have LSD. At this point if I were you I would hold on to your car for now and wait until Honda reveals the next Si for the 2022 model year. I know that sounds really far away, but time will go fast. That’s a pretty high increase for monthly payments so I wouldn’t make that move for a 2020 Si. Also keep in mind the new Toyota 86 and Subaru BRZ is coming. You can always get a used 2020 Si later on too.
Elantra N-Line is also coming:
www.caranddriver.com/news/a33584436/2021-hyundai-elantra-n-line-revealed/