Everything You Need To Know Before Buying A Mazdaspeed3
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- Everything You Need To Know Before Buying A Mazdaspeed3
In this video I talk about all the things I wish I had known about when looking to buy a Mazdaspeed3, this will help you look at them with confidence and know what you're getting into.
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My rule of thumbs when buying a sportcar(especially a turbo car) get one as close to unmodded as possible. Been lurking for my second Speed3 and finally found 1 that is unmolested :D
How would you compare the Mazda protege5 to the mazdaspeed 3?
@@xaviermarquez1045 i havent owned a Protoge. But i have heard that the Protoge has good potential. I did seek one out years ago but they are/were rather rare.
@@HeDangeRos thanks for the reply
@@xaviermarquez1045 I've owned a P5 non-turbo for about 6 years now and I love it. I swapped out the FS-DE engine to the FS-ZE without any other mods or tunes and it runs great with a bit more bite. I was fortunate to be able to drive a lot of cars daily for one of my jobs, so I was able to test drive a crap ton of cars and I can say the Mazdaspeed 3's have a lot more bite stock than the Protege 5, for sure. However, handling is very similar if the suspension is in good condition. I was never able to get behind a Mazdaspeed Protege, so I can't speak for those. Hope this helps with your question.
i bought a 2010 ms3 83k miles for $8500. the guy said all stock blah blah even though he just bought it from a auction and knows shit but i checked the comp and all 4 were 170-175..tranny was butter..went for a test drive with the owner and i ripped it 1-4th 4 or so times as he was freaking out lol..dont be scared to buy what you want just do a few test on her...Dealerships selling Speed3s/6s walk away quickly...dont ever trust or buy the shit there saying is sooooo well taken care of and will last another 200k
I bought mine brand new in 2012 and I love mine it's my daily driver, no real problems to date, 190k, stock clutch lol...
the stock clutch is beefy but the clutch will last a long time if factory power and you know how to drive a manual..my stock clutch is still holding 324whp/388tq but it will let go after 450whp.
Bought mine same year too automatic transmission...I currently have 225,800 miles!! Still runs well with little to no issues! Still have original transmission and alternator!! 😀
@@nickthekid6516 mazdaspeed 3 w auto?
No it's a regular Mazda 3 Automatic transmission 2012 currently now has 226,900 miles!!
@@nickthekid6516 the mazda3 and Speed3 are totally different animals, speed3 is 2.3L IL4, i can hit 23 psi peak on mine, they have locking front differential and all are 6 speeds, the mazda 3 has skyactive engines 2.3 and 2.5 that I know of
Great job my dude. This video will be relevant for so many years. This is a classic hot hatch and these tips are invaluable. I love the common sense, real world, relatable approach taken here.
My man, one really good bit of advice around any factory performance car always and I mean ALWAYS. ..buy a clean standard one, you have a much higher chance of getting a good car, a modded one has always been driven really hard! And never believe what a seller is telling you ....especially around mods! ....peace!
waynusp1664 i modded my last car and with tune and never heavily beat on it. Haha
Jesse Budelman I’m the same way lmao
@@jessebudelman you’re an outlier
You're literally such an inspiration! It's awesome how you're giving knowledge on cars like this! I'll be sure to hop on to a wrx when I can afford it lol but definitely starting with the ms3!
Another great video bro!
Few more things to add:
Check VVT chain (Will hit timing cover on cold start)
ALWAYS do a compression test on the engine no matter what before buying
Ask what oil & oil filter previous owner was using (should be rotella or penzoil plat)
We're still missing a bunch of stuff though lol
Thanks Darren! I agree with all of that.
Awesome knowledge! Wish o would have watched something like this in 2013 when I bought my first speed! I learned a ton on that car that has helped me now! Keep up the good work!
Glad this video showed up random as I am currently looking. Very informative. Pricing is all over the place on these.
Definitely a helpful video! I'm tired of my Dart so I'll be going and looking at an 09 MS3 Tuesday. Definitely can't wait.
Did you get it
Good vid. Just bought a 2010 black one. 100% stock and I'm in love with her
Heck yeah! Congrats!
Wait wait wait….sooooo this is you?!?! Bro I just got hooked on your series on the mazdaspeed 3. I remember last year in Jan I watched this video to determine if I should buy a speed 3 and man this vid was so helpful little did I know I would be hooked on your channel lol much respect and I appreciate the content
Perfect timing on this. The intro spoke to me... looking at car number 15 right now 😂😂. Don't know anything about the ms3's but I have always heard about the engine scares and turbo problems. this cleared up a ton thanks!
Heck yeah, glad I could help!
I've already replaced my stock K04, was smokey on my Gen 1. HPFP was my 1st mod. RMM was my 2nd thing to do. Just replaced thermostat this week, heard they are prone to it.
Currently running K04 hybrid ( which is much better then the stock turbo ), Autoexe TMIC, 2nd cat delete, catback exhaust, tuned running 19 psi.
3 common problems.
1) Stock turbo.
2) Timing chain.
3) PCV system.
That's for this video, I'm THINKING real hard about getting a Mazdaspeed 3 over a focus st & needed this info.👍👍👍👍
great content Bro keep it up loving the ms3
Thank you Paul! Really appreciate the support!
After 66,000miles since 2012, my MS3 still on stock OEM mounts. The only mods are CPE TMIC, FORGED V1 BPV, K&N TYPHOON with CS hoses. Custom 3" down pipe, cat delete with OEM resonator+back box. H&R lowering springs with rear MS adjustable camber. Pump gas RON100 or V-Power Nitro, 10w/40 full syn every 5,000miles. RE003...The rest of the car is still running strong with OEM from the showroom parts.
Love Mazda’s, owned 2. Went through 4 motors. 3 in 1 car. The 2.3- wanted a speed 3 for the longest time and still do, but with buying these cars. His advice is super solid and is tried and true. Basically try to stay away from buying a modded car unless the owner knows his shit and has done the proper work and care so that it was ran safely
Going to look at one today! Thanks for the tips.
Nice vid! I recently purchased mps few months ago and trying to educate myself with the ins and outs… thinking I may need to do a mechanical course lol too bad they don’t have one specifically for mps. Anyway was a great watch, I know for sure I got a nice deal!
Dope, glad you made this video. I PM'd you on IG about the one in Chicago. Glad you helped out, since that thing was modded with no tune. Keep up the work man.
Sweet!
great video. Also, can't wait for the bumper fix video. I have the same issue with my front bumper
Sweet!
Love the videos keep up the great work
Thanks Connor!
great video man very good explanation
Nice car and nice vid too! Great info but I will stick to my Saab😁 I know that there is way way more aftermarket support for the ms3 and that was the reasoning of me wanting one......but after taking my Saab to the carwash I was looking at it and I just love how unique my car is, is at stage2 and not the fastest nor slowest but puts a smile on me, I'm sure that one day when I will be needing another ride, the ms3 and the ms6 will be on my top list. Good cars 👍
Awesome job on this video!
My 2011 Mazdaspeed3 is still in perfect condition, really a great car.
Chris J yes
Chris J stis are annoying to maintain
Hey bro u should add into videos like this what kind of fluid they use.. and also give off names of brands and also talk about what kind of wrong fluids may be in the car
Just bought a 2011 stock mazdaspeed3 happy I found you, you had some useful tips
i am looking to get one rn. do you mind sharing the mileage and price you paid? I would really appreciate it!
Ante Rebic i just bought one 2010 with 8700 miles ! Lmao
Thank you for this helpful, well-made video. Clear and concise. I have a 2007 MS3 sitting in my garage that I’ve not yet completed the purchase. It was traded in at a local dealer. 123k miles. They have no idea what all it has in mods. I can easily spot the following: Cobb everywhere. Cobb front mount intercooler. Cobb blowoff valve. Full Cobb exhaust. Cobb springs. Koni shocks. Hotchkiss swaybars. Cobb shifter. No Cobb accessport to be found. Runs fantastic. I’ve driven 40 miles already on various tests before I agreed to borrow for the evening and return to make a deal. They had it listed for 9k but have “settled” at 6500. Carfax is clean. Initial assessment is it needs a new battery box (broken clips), second key, and paint buffing to reduce swirl marks. Two very minor dings. Few front bumper area scuffs. Bright red paint. Sport (non grand touring) model. I had a 2009 MS3 purchased new then sold in 2012 after 46k trouble-free meticulously maintained miles; bone stock, and have missed it ever since. My plan is to get a full PPI from my independent shop tomorrow before making a deal but they won’t budge from 6500. What’s your in-take (sic)?
i have joined the club! i looked for all the things you said
Cameron, i'm looking at a 2013 stock, certified preowned speed3 with almost 17,000 miles. it's a north country car so I saw some rust under and my biggest concern is that there's considerable carbon build up on both exhaust tips. I thought it was a lot for being low mileage car. is it normal? it drove fine as per your guidelines on this video.
Thank you for this!
I’ve been wanting a speed 3 as a daily or if I could get a low mileage speed 6 I’ll definitely get that. Definitely will pay attention to see if mods have been done. Thanks
Spot on dude! People gotta think about this stuff so they don't screw themselves. Nice work.
Thanks John!
When I see your makes me want to get one .. it’s dope
Great vid. I have a stock 08 ms3 for sale 94k miles. Great cars!
Your wrong about the accessport, once you have sold the accessport, you cannot (or should not) keep the tune that's installed on the ECU, it has to be unpaired. 2nd, there are many other tuning solutions such as versatuner, mazdaedit, ecutek etc. 3rd, the main thing to really look for is the service history, the Timing chains particularly on the Gen1's can stretch and the VVT actuator is usually worth doing. What's the service history too? Mine's been changed every 5000km since 60000km, it's now done 200000km and I've only replaced the turbo seals and injector seals.
Also, the Gen2's ABS motor have been known to burn the brushes. Would check to see if they have been done.
I have catless exhaust on 2 mazda 3 mps and I never have any with hpfp. One car with ecu tuning with 2.0 peak loads. There was never any drop of fuel pressure. I believe it can happen if you do ecu tuning with really high loads.
Thanks for the video, probably saved me a massive headache.
Alot of speed3's listed locally with tons of mods, some with "New" engines. I'll probably just go with a stock non speed 3.... Seems like the speed3 is a car for hobbyists who like to turn wrenches and mod? Awesome car though.
Yeah picking up one this week hopefully goes well
Good luck!
I bought my speed 3 2012 bone stock and now I'm at 115k and fully bolt still running strong
Bought a gen1 MS3 about half a year ago from a dealer who said it was stock, then I found a damn Cobb Access Port owners manual inside the car shortly after I got it home. I've been keeping my fingers crossed ever since, hoping that it wasn't abused too bad.
Had a mechanic tell me everything seemed in good shape, so I'm feeling a bit better about the purchase. It only had 39,500 miles on it when I bought it, so I'm hoping it was babied.
Probably had full bolt ons at some point. All you can do is pray.
Just saying I LOVE my car , every car I've owned at some point or another had a few fights with curb rash , sometimes squeezing in a parking spot in the city , shit happens
Hey Cameron, recently bought a speed 3 and it been giving 2 codes...1 saying PCM and the other low circuit 02 sensor for sensor 1 bank 2. I clear them and about a week or 2 they reappear. It has an access port, it's on stage 3. It has a lot of modes..the car appears it was well taken care of. So what do u think should be done?
I bought mine with 47k, totally stock. There were a couple in my area that had been modded, but the stock felt more solid. I havent checked the turbo tho.
Nice!
How good are the car for stock block and big turbo setups?
Question - looking at an incredibly clean 08 MS3. No access port, but has ram intake & a BOV. Worth it or run? The seller says nothing else is done, seems like a straight up dude, and as I said, the car is clean. In all honestly, I'd put money down that there's only a few that are as clean as this one. Clearly it's been someone's baby.
I bought my Mazdaspeed3 completely stock and only 80k miles.Couldn't been more happy with the car.Its condition is almost like brand new,too bad i got it from dealership and couldn't thank the previous owner about keeping the car in great condition.
Thinking of getting this as my second car or a gti or a genny coupe 2.0t or a Subaru sti blob eye
so i didn’t ask if the car was tuned before i bought it & i’m swapping the motor, i don’t need to worry about it anymore right?
Great vid man very informative. All the comments are about buying a stock car or never modded, etc. And that's sad. It's sad a car just can't even have an intake and exhaust without all these supposed problems. And it doesn't look like it's blown out of proportion here either. Did Mazda not anticipate the after market for this car? I'm an older guy and had a 93 RX-97 back in the 90s. The car was a great performer for the times but the build quality was shit...things always broke...had to replace vacuum lines, radiator, engine could crap out, interior pieces, etc. Interior isn't a big deal, I grew up with GM cars, but for the engines to have as many problems as they did even stock. Since that car I was never into any Mazdas...well they didn't really make anything performance oriented again until the 3. And here I am reading about similar things. It's like Mazda built another piece of shit it seems like. Again shouldn't be this big of a deal to have a car with some mods...unless a lot of you folks are being paranoid. I had a 300ZX and a Supra as well...no problems with those really...bulletproof engines for the most part. Mazda let me down again...unless what I'm reading here is a load of crap.
So I found a gen 1 Mazdaspeed3 for sale with 80k miles. It has a catless downpipe and an intake from previous owner. The owner is older (50) and has owned it for 6 years. He said it doesn't throw codes so it must of had a tune from previous owner but doesn't have an access port and doesn't know if the previous owner had one. The last thing is he doesn't know if it has hpfp. So my question is, is the car worth taking a look at? And what to check. It's a clean car from pictures only some paint issues
Listen to this man! I bought one for 13000 said it was bone stock besides the Cobb recirc valve... get a check engine light a week later for a bad map sensor... had a corksport 3.5 on there... come to find out had a corksport turbo.... And a v3 was already married to the vehicle that must of been sold. Car had hpfps already but didn't know... what a headache when your a newbie... 8 months later and a crap of research you learn quick
13k usd , is this a 2010 model
I bought my 2011 for 12000 us used
How many miles if you don't mind me asking?
thnx man for the low down on these cars
I love my car but I wish my previous owner took care of it more. I'm slowly working towards making my Mazda 3 better looking but some people don't care about their car and it affects others
Would it be safe to do a straight pipe on a gen2 without the fuel pump upgrades ???
Cameron i have a guy selling mazda gen 1 MPS
Cobb Stage one,
no mods, stock intake, exhuast and all that.
160,000km on the clock, for $8500 AUD
he seems knowlodgeable and knows what hes talking about,
Apparently the turbo and timing chain has been fixed and all servicing was done by his mate who is a mechanic but no papers. hes the 3rd owner and the second owner did all the fixing of the turbo.
Should i be worried it being stage one? or am i safe?
Recommendations?
Do I need worry about getting a tune if thr car has a less restrictive turbo inlet pipe and a short ram intake?
You should do a video like this for a wrx!
I’m looking at a Speed3 right now. It has a short ram and a bypass valve. Doesn’t have an Accessport and seems to drive really well. It has 80k miles. What do I need to look for? It’s a dealer so idk if they will know if there was an Accessport or not.
Cool vid. You should get rid of those JBR mounts, though. They're crap and I've seen them fail more than once. The geometry on the PMM isn't even correct for the loads to be properly distributed on the bushing; it's on entirely the wrong axis. I've been fully mounted with Damond Motorsports mounts on my bolted/tuned/BNR S3'd (390/385 @ wheels) Speed 3 for a long time, and they've never given me problems. They are just as solid as the JBR mounts, have less NVH, and have no record of catastrophic failure like the JBR ones do.
One guy I know had his JBR TMM fail and his entire drivetrain dropped while he was on the highway. Scary stuff.
You make great video's.
That is all
Hi! I have the option of buying a Hyundai Accent 2010 or a Mazda 3 2005, both are on excelente conditions almost same millage, but the fact the Mazda is 2005 scares me a little, what's you opinion?
This was more of a used car buying guide than a MS3 buying guide. Was expecting you to go over the differences between gen 1 and gen 2 and any MS3 specific issues o look for.
So i have a question, just saw a Mazdaspeed 3 for a great price on Kijiji but then noticed the Mazda 3 badge on the back. Could this be a fake or something or is some type of badging that I’m unaware of.
I bought a low mileage gen 1 sight unseen. If the carfax checks out, go the extra mile and pay to have it inspected professionally. There's not much they'll miss, and then you don't have to worry about buying a lemon.
I wish I watched this video before I got my 08 Speed3. Fortunately I got lucky with mine and it's all stock underneath the hood.
Hey Cameron! Just subscribed to your channel. I have been looking at a 2013 MS3 for a couple of days being sold by a White Allen dealership. The car has 32,000 miles and appears to be in absolutely pristine condition from only been able to look through the windows to the interior, and observing the exterior. The only thing that is concerning to me about the car is that I looked through the hood scoop and saw an aftermarket intercooler. I also looked through the back window and saw a custom performance engineering box in the trunk. I also saw another box labeled stock airbox. Taking all of that into consideration, do you think you would be safe to proceed with? Tomorrow I will be contacting the dealer to send me pictures of the engine bay to see if anything else has been touched. I also asked them for the previous owner’s contact information. Am I doing everything right so far? If not, what else do you think I should look out for?
Brian Moore Anything modded is a risk.
I have a gen1 speed3. You're going to have to have issues with the slave cylinder and smoking turbo. Make sure to you're running synthetic 5w40 to reduce the smoking. Get a Cobb accessport + intake for turbo noises.
giantsallstar Full synthetic is a GIVEN for any turbocharged, high performance car. If the owner just used conventional oil, they were destroying their motor and turbo. Definitely a lemon
I have a first gen speed 3, on cold start it sounds like the timing chain is hitting the valve cover... some people say its normal but my intuition thinks i should replace it asap, is that normal for the 1st gen speed 3s to do that?
Do you have or know of a video showing what to do after you buy one?
i’m 18 and have found a mazdaspeed3 hatchback , i have no clue if it’s a good buy but it has 100k miles it’s from 2010 and only $8k
it’s going to be my first car if i actually purchase it, it has been modified , is there a way i can send you pictures of it before i make my final decision? i seriously have no idea
Hey idk if you respond to comments anymore. I’m looking to get a speed3 myself. What’s a good mileage ballpark I saw a 2010 with 116k on the clock. I mean lower would be nice but jw
Looking at a 2010 with 90k miles should I get it it has a intake and exhaust that’s really it
Surprised you didn't mention oil catch cans especially since these have direct fuel injection!
I just bought a 2012 Mazdaspeed 3 and I had the check engine light on and I ran a test and it gave me a p0171 code and don’t know what to do because it can be multiple things and I don’t want to keep pouring money in to fix it
I have a question for you hopefully you could provide me with some answers..
I have a cobb v3 access port on my mazda 3 mps 2011 and its telling me the engine is running lean.. I've tried to figure out the codes but they are all so vague. I was wondering if you knew of any common reasons for this issue? I have an after market turbo (gtx2871) and ungraded oil feed and return along with other mods...
Hope you can help... Thanks.....
Did you have a hpfp?
Whats the price range that ms3's go for ?
He put me on the ruff
Bought my '12 speed 3 in September 2019 used with 97k and October 30th 2019 the motor blew, one week out of warranty but luckily the dealership I got it from replaced it at no charge......oh it was completely stock and still is SMH, I'm the 3rd owner, came with a Carfax report,
Possible Vid Idea...! I as well have a 2013 MS3... Possible roof racks...? And or install guide...? Any thoughts?
Done both of those! Look through my channel for them
I should've just looked for a Speed3 when I went shopping for my "first" car, but wasn't thinking about it at the time before just buying a basic 2014 Mazda3 (still love it, but I craved for a Manual car to modify). My cousin might be selling his Speed3, so I definitely need to get in touch on what I need to know about the car. Thankfully, I feel like he's one to have taken care of his car.......hopefully, lol.
Thanks!
Can someone tell me more about the summarization on the intake and all , kinda a car noob don’t know to much when it comes to tuns and all
Big oof, i bought mine with an intake and blowoff valve, and it was never tuned (230k KMs) and it had thoses mods for a long time🥲 and i was wondering why it was running so rich and bogged at 4-5k rpms so often
if my 13 speed 3 was all stock from what I could tell but the previous owner had an aftermarket rear sway bar and a couple smaller pieces is there any other way to tell if he installed hpfp internals? Cause I've changed the tranny fluid,shifter bushings, intake hose, and oil other than that I just feel like with an aftermarket rear sway bar the p.o might have done other mods just taken most of them off to part out for extra cash
I got it from a car lot by the way so I couldn't get in touch with the previous owner to ask and they didn't know anything about the car.
Nice vid. I brought like 4 months ago a stock '12 speed3 with 100k miles. It runs pretty well but the throwback bearing is cracking a lot and everytime I up or down shift the tranny hits hard like it missed a support or something. Any recommendations to fix that?
Rathalos-X Gaming lol,
those damn throwback bearings...lmao
I want an ms6 tho😭 Barely any videos on that :/
Should've watch this first 😂 mine came with butt loads of mods. But no idea if it has a tune 😪
Buy an accessport and findout. If it hasnt had a tune sell it and make it someone elses problem
good video buddy
Thank you Gabriel!
IS IT OK TO BUY A STOCK MS3 BOUGHT OFF AN AUCTION WITH 140K MILES ON IT? PLEASE ADVISE ME EXPERTS! THANK YOU
Would an 18 year old be able to get cheap insurance on this as their first car???
i got a door ding. it's equivalent to a pimple. i went to the gym and parked in the back. when i came out a ford f150 was parked near it. i look at my passenger door and low and behold there is a scuff mark and ding. looks like my paint is on the edge of his door. his paint is on my door. i filed a gieco claim. they said since i did not see the hit i would have to pay the deductible. bs.
What kind of bypass valve do you have
Where can i buy one in Australia? I cant find one
Do you need high pressure fuel pump internals if you have a tune? Sorry I'm new to turbo cars.
Tyler Rhives yes... hpfp internals should come before a tune or you will grenade your engine.
Hey what if my 2008 2nd owner Mazdaspeed 3 has a cold air intake and a bpv it has 104k miles do i need tune it????? Pls let me know
No. Should be fine
As someone newer to driving a manual transmission is the torque steer that is prominent in the Mazdaspeed 3 something that would be problematic for me starting out?
Z_Biglane Torque steer is definitely intense, but it's nothing to worry about. I've found it fun to play around with over the time I've owned my 2010 Mazdaspeed 3.
Not at all! If you drive like a normal person abiding by the laws you wont feel it. But you'll get use to it when you run it hard.
Torque steer is mostly prominent at full throttle. You just have to ease off the gas a little when it occurs and as always, grip the wheel with both hands. It's *much* less scary to deal with as a first-timer than oversteer. Don't let it deter you from buying a car.
Just hang on when your boosting and be careful when boosting around slight corners
Lol..under 250 u be fine
Couldn't find the mod video butttt do you know if the wing extension fits the first gen? forums are ass, thx
It does not
i’m looking at a 2007 that has an intake and catback exhaust, should i be worried about a tune or not?
Should be fine unless you just want more power, but if you are going to tune then first you need to upgrade the fuel pump internals.
Oh No dont forget especially with buying Mazdaspeeds with over 165,000KM if possible see if they have had a compression test done or try get one done before you buy it. Piston rings got like mad on some of them when they age....also turbo seals...get those checked.
Kopfjäger doesn't matter if the motor has 1KM or 165,000KM on it. Always get a compression test period
Is one that is mostly stock with only intake but 135,000 miles a good investment? How long do these things last?
these things can last 240k+ if taken care of. Is it a gen 1? Because gen 2 need hpfp with only an intake