Spoilers for the Sunseed Quest: "How to do the Crown, and all Sun Pillars in 2 runs: First run: Make a Dark Sun at Normal Moon, and then Normal Sun at Dark moon Second Run: Make a Normal Sun at Normal moon, and then make a Dark Sun at Dark Moon order matters" Doing this will get you both the crown *AND* all the tree pillars.
imagine creating a literal enormous blackhole that destroys and suck *everything* in its path because you had a big chunk of feces sitting in your inventory.
These secrets are ABSOLUTELY LEGENDARY, and it seems like the game is actually letting you solve a mystery and conduct theoretical alchemy to accomplish them, which is exactly the kind of stuff I want in mysteries and easter eggs. However, the fact that everything is incredibly deadly, and you need to do massive grinding, including playing through the entire game from a blank slate, getting lucky with random generation, manufacturing your movement and attack options from sort of unintuitive and randomized basic elements, and playing the game in a non-standard way involving parallell universes and skipping rewards and ignoring the ending.... All of this, every time you die, and all in preparation to even attempt something like this... And despite the fact that you will still likely be annihilated by even the elements you have to collect, let alone any insane creatures you find or the creation you eventually make. It makes these secrets inaccessible not only in a "wow that's really hidden, 99% of players won't find this" way, but also in a "99% of players who might find this will never be in a position to accomplish this" kind of way. It's a powerfully exclusionary design, which, i dunno, may actually be the point. Maybe it has something to do with the idea that, most alchemists would pursue the field in order to create gold and become rich, and their greed is infinitely repeatable, and will always consume them, driving them down a narrow linear path of destruction, while the ideal of alchemy, being something that could solve the mysteries of the universe, are something you must abandon your selfish wants to seek out and accomplish.
@@codebracker In a way you can save , its kind of (totally) cheating though , but I've made it in longer runs when I really didn't want to start over from dying from getting polymorphed. You just save and quit , go to noita's folder , copy the save00 folder and when you die you paste that.
@@Sir_Steven I am pretty sure you can threaten ANYONE with a sun, so you might not be able to *buy* anything, but you for sure can get anything you want.
I made a text community post about this, but there has been another update adding more to this quest, as I was expecting, so this is now (PART ONE) and I'll be making a (PART TWO) soon, with the updated information, including rewards...
I like how the center has the Midas damage. This is something that was found by the old alchemists and it plays into the ongoing theme of alchemy trading life for gold. They found a way to turn anything into gold... but it destroys everything that even comes near it.
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The alchemists sure were a force to be reckoned with, if they held a secret to even creating the Sun. With how challenging this seems, i sure do hope completing this quest will unlock a spell/cosmetic effect in the future, or perhaps give some payoff during the run. The video was great! It's exhilarating how passionate the developers are about adding new things to the game, and i'm very thankful that you're keeping us up to date with the things that can't be found on the wiki yet. These videos are incredibly informative and entertaining, compared to other sources of information on Noita's secrets.
It's funny that this seems to be implied as one of the "less important works of alchemy" These fuckers really were SO GREEDY that they thought that creating the sun wasn't that big of a deal as making everything into gold.
@@bbittercoffee I mean, that's just capitalism dude. Sure, you might've solved the secrets of fusion, but if you ain't got no gold then you can kiss your alchemist career goodbye as you can't eat the Sun and science needs funding! >:P
@@bbittercoffee I know, right? Like, you can create all those cool things that can kill you but if you can't make things that can feed you what's the point? That's why the philosopher stone was so important. Once you have gold, you can turn it into everything you want. And that is much more powerful than alchemy. That is the power of *CAPITALISM.*
I haven't the patience or time to find these secrets myself and I *adore* the style of your videos, thank you for this! (especially appreciate the refresher on weird fungus)
I don't own Noita, but I feel like a quest where you are 𝐃𝐫𝐚𝐠𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚 𝐬𝐮𝐧 𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐛𝐨𝐭𝐭𝐨𝐦 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐥𝐝! should have a bigger reward than two pieces of a funny pillar.
This is Beta branch. These things tend to change by the time they hit a main update. The Mini-bosses didn't all drop spells and wands and unique items upon first being added.
I will admit, I LOVED Noita when it first came out. As someone who still hasn't beaten the game yet, it proved to be a very difficult challenge that I kept wanting to try and push towards. Now though? It feels like all the updates and secrets and challenges can't be done unless I know how to bend this game over backwards and break it every single time I launch it. I don't have the time to put that much energy into this game. And with so many incredibly rare items like the Water Stone, it feels like a game I'll never be able to fully experience.
The game saves when you close it via the menu. You can then backup your save via the files on your computer to ensure the safety of that save. Say you die and want to restart from there.
Don't worry dude, at this point, Noita is more of an ARG contained inside a game. Like 90% of the secrets are completly unneeded for a normal experience, and you can just go find all the orbs with the help of the wiki once you beat the game and get a good run to do so.
If Mods make the difference between you wanting to play a game or not then it's a completely valid way of experiencing what you want to get out of a game :)
Seems like developers are focused on releasing features only content creators can have time to find. I would say I am not happy about it. But rationally thinking about it, the base game itself is a good game that takes 50-100 hours to finish without cheating. So anyone can enjoy it without ever knowing about all the extra stuff. I still think the extra stuff is just a wasted time that could go into balancing the game as well.
To me at least the secrets are there as optional challenges, things to do if you get bored of beating the game the regular way, and not necessarily a part of a normal playthrough. You beat the game, now try to bring the salt all the way back to the top of the mountain, then try to do it with some of the orbs, then all the orbs, then go for this thing or that thing. Almost like a NG+ run in a darksouls game or the post game quests in rpg games like dragon quest.
This game's updates never cease to amaze it. That the devs almost make all this stuff KNOWING you have to break the game is just amazing. I feel like every other dev would "fix" these "exploits" and engine mechanics, but Noita embraces them. It's so impressive how Nolla has turned breaking a game into a mechanic and balanced the challenges around that while maintaining the thematic elements of the setting. It really feels like you're ascending to godhood the more you understand and exploit the world. Also being able to transport powders now is INSANE for possibilities. Finally have a use for purifying powder and fungal shifts will lead to an awful lot of interesting chemical reactions.
My water turned to oil. I than decided to light my Snowy Depth on fire, causing the snow to melt into oil, and than setting on fire, melting the snow around it into oil, and so on. That was fun. I never found Fire immunity tho, can you guess what I died from? Lol.
@@LoponStormbased Amazing! At least we "don't need" random materials mods to have this kind of fun anymore! The water steam condensing into midas was absolutely hylarious though xD
Homie, I can usually just barely beat the boss and you're out here literally creating stars. In all honesty though, your Noita videos always inspire me to play the game again. Thank you for making them B).
yo i just found the eye stone in the mushroom caverns today and had to look it up because i was so lost, crazy to know im seeing this stuff as you are breaking it down. blows me away
I love the deep atmospheric sound effect that plays whenever the player does something major, like the transformations, fixing the broken spell, etc. ITS SO GOOD IDK WHY
lets goooo i am declaring this the best video of the week that i watched, great video keep up the great work, these videos are really fun to watch because i am new to the game and enjoy learning about it
Its awesome seeing all these things put into the game. Even more so seeing all the time you and the community do to find them. Thanks for the hard work!
Bro, you are so epic. Whatever your process in life is.. Keep it up. And always glad to see a new video. Doesn't even matter what it's about, I already know I'll enjoy it. Thank you
I cannot imagine that someone can figure it all out without guides.. But it's a good challenge for experienced players to do once, will be interesting to watch streams of it
Just made the sun at the moon, then made the baby sun at the dark moon, threw the second fire stone, prepared all the other stones... and the game crashed. Needless to say the sun despawned, now i have to find a third fire stone and a way to not have my 4 stones despawn while I summon the new sun. Fun
gotta be my least favorite thing about noita, it seems to crash so easily. especially for end game quests, you need constant mod restarts to refresh the game, otherwise you just risk corrupting your world
"these are huge endgame spoilers" bruh i cant even do the voiceless key and west and east past the tree and im already spoiled by those what makes you think i can even get to the endgame of this blasted game
@@monkeydoespride yeah lol but as they add more spells and quests and as you unlock them it becomes waaay more about knowledge and skill than luck, but yeah luck is veryyy important at the very begining, late game doe nah
@@LoponStormbased If it’s possible, I’m pretty sure that it would take basically forever lol The suns may have killed Fury pretty quickly in this video, but the 33-orb boss has (at least) a trillion HP, and that’s on NG+1. Every additional NG+ cycle doubles the HP. (Well, it doesn’t technically double the HP; it’s a bit more complicated, and I can’t find anything documenting the HP curve. I think it’s exponential.) Edit: I did some math relating to the rate at which the boss’s HP increases. (Sorry to derail this reply chain, but I think it’s worth it.) Here goes. At first, Kolmisilmä gains relatively little extra HP from orbs, with the total increasing by only ~33% with each orb at first. The rate of increase goes up slightly for each orb, and it almost reaches doubling by the 33-orb mark. However, it isn’t until the *72-orb* mark that additional orbs increase Kolmisilmä’s HP by more than double. I need to make some more numbers. I’ll make a separate reply soon.
Promised reply: Fuck Math is hard I have no idea how to come up with a non-linear function to match a set of data. Best I can do is “it’s probably exponential.”
Nice vid but I think I'm just gonna forget about this cuz there's NO WAY I could do this without cheats. It's actually sad that there's a lot of good secrets in this game but most of them are very hard to accomplish, ESPECIALLY this one. Anyway, I appreciate your work on this, you said it took a whole week, that's a lot of time.
You’re complaining that it’s difficult to achieve the secrets in the game? Like how hard it is IRL to make a philosopher’s stone to turn lead into gold? I think it’s just realistic.
@@Solrex_the_Sun_King To be fair games are meant to be enjoyable, not realistic. I quite like Noita's secrets, but it's fair to complain about difficulty; Noita's *already* notoriously difficult, and now it has all this stuff added on that's even HARDER?
It does corrupt damage inside and midas damage at its core, so if it touches you, it'll insta-kill you unless you have LOTS of hp or you have stainless blood with stacks of stainless armor. Saving Grace is necessary to be safe. Extra Lives (I had about 10 in the final run) are also very helpful. You just have to break the re-rolls and go to a bunch of parallel worlds to power yourself up as much as possible in one run. Maybe they'll make it possible in NG+ loops, because I don't think it is at the moment (worn out and tired from working on this, lol.) The *Dark* Sun also makes Ominous Liquid, so it's much more difficult to survive. The entire thing also does Midas damage. So if you touch the event horizon, then you are going to die without those other precautions.
Ohhhh, you meant the kakkakikkare? Yeah, the material it is made from isn't protected from the sun (this might be changed) so if you throw it at the sun like the other stones, it'll just be destroyed before hitting the sun. You need to actually fly *into* the sunbaby and it'll take all the stones you have on you (with the kakkakikkare) and turn into the Dark Sun.
@@FuryForged So you break the reroll machines by going through 6 parallel worlds and then coming back through them? How does that work exactly? Last time I had a long run the machine went up the like 6 trillion and then I couldn't reroll anymore no matter how much money I picked up with my 12ish greeds. Also how do you even get to a 6th parallel world without crashing constantly? I can't go past 3rd east or 2nd west without crashing every step lol.
So, in order to survive the Dark Sun long enough to move it, etc. you are going to want to find a seed where you can easily fungal shift your blood into a stainless material AND ominous liquid into a stainless material. Letaali (good ol' Letaali!) found a seed where the first shift makes oil -> silver (so get the Oil Blood perk and you are set) and the second shift is Ominous Liquid -> Acid: 1662748571. This will make the Dark Sun much more survivable after getting a bunch of Stainless.
The box is in the beta branch of the game available on Steam (all of this stuff is beta content). It spawns fairly commonly on potion stands or in chests and is basically the powder equivalent of a flask. It can store any powdery substance in the game (including metal dusts, etc.)
@@FuryForged So now we can do some things more easily like actually producing ambrosia That's actually a great addition to the game Thanks for the explanation!
Something so difficult should give you an amazing reward, for example *polymorph immunity*, honestly. Wouldn't even be that op, especially when looking at how stacked you have to be to even get all the stuff needed for it.
Noita is absolutely great and genius game. I love and respect the devs very much. This is (in some way, of course) how games SHOULD be made. This is, probably, that very same oldschool video game dev spirit. We, the hardcore players, definately need more of such games in future. Not gacha mechanics, skin shops, endless donates, GaaS etc. But there are only few of us, compared to the whole gamedev industry, so it will probably rare exception for nearest XXXX years. Thank you Nolla Games and FF!
I have a few hours of footage of all this. I might throw together an easy video for the other channel (FurySquared) that shows more of the footage, but not today or this weekend. I'm spent from working on this and I have to make a different video for this weekend.
Hey, you've mentioned that if lucky enough it's possible to create another sun. I have a question and an idea regarding that. So, how can I obtain a second sunseed? Is the ghostskull boss generating in parallel world in similar fashion as the laboratory witch? Also in parallel world there are copies of the essences, so maybe it would be possible to get a double set of them before using an essence eater (which i know exists only one in the main world) and get 8 stones, 2 of each element from double essences?
Yeah, it's definitely more difficult than a normal NG+ 33 orb run - if you have to move the sun from one moon to the other (instead of getting lucky and finding 4 more stones to make another sun at the other moon.) There are ways to get the stones (waterstone can be obtained from avarice diamond or farming great chests with a greed die/runestone of emptiness) but the tannerkivi is now fairly rare. However, going into NG+28 and fighting the most buffed-up 33 orb Kolmi is more difficult and time consuming. Though, moving the sun and surviving the trip does also require a crazy amount of time and planning. This video took me a week of work to make. Yesterday, I worked on it from 8:30am until 1:00am alllll day, in order to finish it for today.
@@FuryForged Now what if you combined the two, and make NG+28 33 Orb Kolmi walk into the Black Hole Sun? Also someone else mentioned the possibility of getting two sets of Stones by possibly stacking the Essence perks by grabbing them from a Parallel world, since they do spawn there.
The new heart of the world is in balance? Where is it? What if you make 2 black suns instead? Is the black sun a reference to magic breaking the laws of nature by giving the essence of spirit to the sun?
@FuryForged My son put me on to this game about 4 days ago. It's a great game and your content is great also. Good to see your still active and thanks for responding. I don't subscribe often however your content is worth it. Keep it up 👍👍👍
It would be much better if, on the reference to explosion, they'd write something like * "the great magical power, the death, the destroyer of world" * , which would be a clearer hint to those who know about the J. Robert Oppenheimer's commentary on the nuclear weapon!
And we thought that the boss that guards the sampo was the final boss of the game, that it ended there, and that hell was just a place to challenge yourself... Look where we are now, making our own suns
If you're going to break the perk machines, these days you can get gas blood instead of fungal shifting blood. You should also get ~90 stacks health max perks, which will give you infinite health. While you're doing that, grab all the copies of extra perk, perk lottery, stainless armor, stronger levitation, repelling Cape, more love, permanent shield, greed, trick greed, and extra life. With 40+ copies of stainless armor, all damage is reduced to 0, and with infinite health, all damage is reduced to 0. Put money to power on your damage wand and get yourself to infinite money. Now you need to fungal shift all three kinds of polymorphene, and after that it's nearly impossible to die. You can't take damage, you can't be polymorphed or otherwise lose defenses except by enemy attacks, non-boss enemies won't attack you unless you damage them first, and you can't damage them without killing them. Only the pit boss and the final boss will attack you with anything that could lower your defenses, and they won't fire anything fast enough to get through the shields.
Spoilers for the Sunseed Quest:
"How to do the Crown, and all Sun Pillars in 2 runs:
First run: Make a Dark Sun at Normal Moon, and then Normal Sun at Dark moon
Second Run: Make a Normal Sun at Normal moon, and then make a Dark Sun at Dark Moon
order matters"
Doing this will get you both the crown *AND* all the tree pillars.
do you still get the crown and/or the pillars if you do this in a modded run?
aw hell i just read this after i just made a normal sun at the normal moon. God damnit i just want the crown
One bit if advice thats iff in this vid is saying to shift blood to vomit. Vomit now applies a wet stain.
"Massive spoiler", as if im gonna find that stuff out myself.
that's what I think every time I watch these videos
@@rodiaz6652 same lmao
Even if you did find these, it would take you days or weeks to do it correctly.
*MASS* isve!!
I know right? I can't even beat squidward
And here I am, getting slaughtered in the Snowy Depths while this man is out there making his own sun and taking it for a walk
same
For me Snowy Depths is the map with the biggest difficulty jump , those snipers , ukko's and clusters of hiisi are a pain....
it be like that. game needs an easy mode so i can retain a false sense of pride
guys i did it im not getting slaughtered in snowy depths anymore now getting slaughtered in hiisi base
@@salt8888e gooood luck. sometimes i try to bring black holes there to bypass a lot of it and hope for the best.
imagine creating a literal enormous blackhole that destroys and suck *everything* in its path because you had a big chunk of feces sitting in your inventory.
It makes sense, since the poopstone contains endless amounts of excrement, and thus must be infinitely dense.
@@chri-k so you don't feed the poop stone to the sun, you feed the new sun to the poop stone
Linguistic note: When killed by what you get from "as above, so bellow" the cause of death is "Valo" which translates to "Light".
Thank you guided feces missile, very cool
These secrets are ABSOLUTELY LEGENDARY, and it seems like the game is actually letting you solve a mystery and conduct theoretical alchemy to accomplish them, which is exactly the kind of stuff I want in mysteries and easter eggs.
However, the fact that everything is incredibly deadly, and you need to do massive grinding, including playing through the entire game from a blank slate, getting lucky with random generation, manufacturing your movement and attack options from sort of unintuitive and randomized basic elements, and playing the game in a non-standard way involving parallell universes and skipping rewards and ignoring the ending.... All of this, every time you die, and all in preparation to even attempt something like this... And despite the fact that you will still likely be annihilated by even the elements you have to collect, let alone any insane creatures you find or the creation you eventually make. It makes these secrets inaccessible not only in a "wow that's really hidden, 99% of players won't find this" way, but also in a "99% of players who might find this will never be in a position to accomplish this" kind of way. It's a powerfully exclusionary design, which, i dunno, may actually be the point.
Maybe it has something to do with the idea that, most alchemists would pursue the field in order to create gold and become rich, and their greed is infinitely repeatable, and will always consume them, driving them down a narrow linear path of destruction, while the ideal of alchemy, being something that could solve the mysteries of the universe, are something you must abandon your selfish wants to seek out and accomplish.
man.
Bruh my men got Noita'd so hard that he questioned the whole meaning of alchemy
They should just make a gamemode where you can save
@@codebracker In a way you can save , its kind of (totally) cheating though , but I've made it in longer runs when I really didn't want to start over from dying from getting polymorphed. You just save and quit , go to noita's folder , copy the save00 folder and when you die you paste that.
@@lordodyn yeah i know but for heaven's sake just make it a game mechanic
The one dislike is one of the gods that still hasn't accepted we will surpass them.
no, its probably because the god thought "hey, he has his own pet solar mass and also he took it through all of my temples"
Alchemists:
Creating a bunch of gold: ✓
Creating the a fucking new sun: X
IK this is a joke, but they did seem to think it was pretty cool, just not _as_ cool as the Work.
What can you buy with a sun? Yeah. I rest my case.
@@pittagiiya Exactly! These guys could create an entire new solar system and be like "Eh, it's not gold, so I don't really care"
@@Sir_Steven I am pretty sure you can threaten ANYONE with a sun, so you might not be able to *buy* anything, but you for sure can get anything you want.
@@bbittercoffee "It do be yellow and shiny tho... but EVERYTHING being yellow and shiny is better"
I wish that completing the quest would give a “True Black Hole” spell that literally just spawns the supermassive black hole in front of you.
so another suicide spell
Good news! with the latest update, it does
@@michaelbishop5674 better news: I just died to it.
@@robertwyatt3912 I TOLD you about supermassive black holes, bro!
"the true end of everything" when you cast it it just crashes your game
I made a text community post about this, but there has been another update adding more to this quest, as I was expecting, so this is now (PART ONE) and I'll be making a (PART TWO) soon, with the updated information, including rewards...
I like how the center has the Midas damage.
This is something that was found by the old alchemists and it plays into the ongoing theme of alchemy trading life for gold.
They found a way to turn anything into gold... but it destroys everything that even comes near it.
"So yeah, I found a way to create Fusion"
"Cool! And what'd you do with it?"
"Oh, you know, I took it out for walksies"
Lmao the entire video your character is hurling because of the fungus
I start to get the feeling this game is more dark souls than dark souls
praise the sun
Gonna praise till you're hollow.
*raise the sun
✅ Difficult and demand
✅ Follows logical, fair rules
✅ Enemies generally follow the same rules as you do
✅ Deliberate, attentive play is rewarded
✅ Hidden storyline, decyphered by the community
Checks out
next up: noita speedrun- as above so below%
up=down%
Killing every boss with the sun any % speedrun zero perks
@@PhillipAmthor wouldnt that be "Killing every boss with the sun% speedrun zero perks"
@@wolfsmaul-ger8318 halt dei maul! :D
The alchemists sure were a force to be reckoned with, if they held a secret to even creating the Sun. With how challenging this seems, i sure do hope completing this quest will unlock a spell/cosmetic effect in the future, or perhaps give some payoff during the run. The video was great! It's exhilarating how passionate the developers are about adding new things to the game, and i'm very thankful that you're keeping us up to date with the things that can't be found on the wiki yet. These videos are incredibly informative and entertaining, compared to other sources of information on Noita's secrets.
It's funny that this seems to be implied as one of the "less important works of alchemy"
These fuckers really were SO GREEDY that they thought that creating the sun wasn't that big of a deal as making everything into gold.
@@bbittercoffee I mean, that's just capitalism dude. Sure, you might've solved the secrets of fusion, but if you ain't got no gold then you can kiss your alchemist career goodbye as you can't eat the Sun and science needs funding! >:P
@@LordDragox412 Dude, if I am able to MAKE a whole other sun but can't just create food out of thin air, am I really a true alchemist?
@@bbittercoffee I know, right? Like, you can create all those cool things that can kill you but if you can't make things that can feed you what's the point? That's why the philosopher stone was so important. Once you have gold, you can turn it into everything you want. And that is much more powerful than alchemy. That is the power of *CAPITALISM.*
Oh wow I was literally just watching your videos waiting for another one and here it is!
I was watching waiting to watch something for watching
I haven't the patience or time to find these secrets myself and I *adore* the style of your videos, thank you for this! (especially appreciate the refresher on weird fungus)
I don't own Noita, but I feel like a quest where you are 𝐃𝐫𝐚𝐠𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚 𝐬𝐮𝐧 𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐛𝐨𝐭𝐭𝐨𝐦 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐥𝐝! should have a bigger reward than two pieces of a funny pillar.
This is Beta branch. These things tend to change by the time they hit a main update. The Mini-bosses didn't all drop spells and wands and unique items upon first being added.
crown
I will admit, I LOVED Noita when it first came out. As someone who still hasn't beaten the game yet, it proved to be a very difficult challenge that I kept wanting to try and push towards. Now though? It feels like all the updates and secrets and challenges can't be done unless I know how to bend this game over backwards and break it every single time I launch it. I don't have the time to put that much energy into this game. And with so many incredibly rare items like the Water Stone, it feels like a game I'll never be able to fully experience.
The game saves when you close it via the menu. You can then backup your save via the files on your computer to ensure the safety of that save. Say you die and want to restart from there.
Don't worry dude, at this point, Noita is more of an ARG contained inside a game. Like 90% of the secrets are completly unneeded for a normal experience, and you can just go find all the orbs with the help of the wiki once you beat the game and get a good run to do so.
If Mods make the difference between you wanting to play a game or not then it's a completely valid way of experiencing what you want to get out of a game :)
Seems like developers are focused on releasing features only content creators can have time to find. I would say I am not happy about it. But rationally thinking about it, the base game itself is a good game that takes 50-100 hours to finish without cheating. So anyone can enjoy it without ever knowing about all the extra stuff. I still think the extra stuff is just a wasted time that could go into balancing the game as well.
To me at least the secrets are there as optional challenges, things to do if you get bored of beating the game the regular way, and not necessarily a part of a normal playthrough. You beat the game, now try to bring the salt all the way back to the top of the mountain, then try to do it with some of the orbs, then all the orbs, then go for this thing or that thing. Almost like a NG+ run in a darksouls game or the post game quests in rpg games like dragon quest.
5:44 "The power of the sun in the palm of my hands!"
This game's updates never cease to amaze it. That the devs almost make all this stuff KNOWING you have to break the game is just amazing. I feel like every other dev would "fix" these "exploits" and engine mechanics, but Noita embraces them. It's so impressive how Nolla has turned breaking a game into a mechanic and balanced the challenges around that while maintaining the thematic elements of the setting. It really feels like you're ascending to godhood the more you understand and exploit the world.
Also being able to transport powders now is INSANE for possibilities. Finally have a use for purifying powder and fungal shifts will lead to an awful lot of interesting chemical reactions.
My water turned to oil. I than decided to light my Snowy Depth on fire, causing the snow to melt into oil, and than setting on fire, melting the snow around it into oil, and so on. That was fun. I never found Fire immunity tho, can you guess what I died from? Lol.
@@LoponStormbased Amazing! At least we "don't need" random materials mods to have this kind of fun anymore! The water steam condensing into midas was absolutely hylarious though xD
Homie, I can usually just barely beat the boss and you're out here literally creating stars.
In all honesty though, your Noita videos always inspire me to play the game again. Thank you for making them B).
"this looks..."
My computer: HELL NO
yo i just found the eye stone in the mushroom caverns today and had to look it up because i was so lost, crazy to know im seeing this stuff as you are breaking it down. blows me away
I love the deep atmospheric sound effect that plays whenever the player does something major, like the transformations, fixing the broken spell, etc.
ITS SO GOOD IDK WHY
lets goooo i am declaring this the best video of the week that i watched, great video keep up the great work, these videos are really fun to watch because i am new to the game and enjoy learning about it
Finally! A guide for this crazy thing.
Crazy to think how many people play Noita and have no idea that you can literally become a god in the game by playing a good seed correctly.
Here it is! Let’s go.
Its awesome seeing all these things put into the game. Even more so seeing all the time you and the community do to find them. Thanks for the hard work!
how many people have completed all this game's secrets legitimately without save scumming? this is absurd
This game has incredibly broken make it slightly less dificult if you are dedicated
I just did!!! I love my new crown
I love how you refer to the new sun as your baby XD
Oh cool. Finally a secret I will never be able to experience myself.
This is an amazing idea from devs.
The effects look awesome.
Bro, you are so epic.
Whatever your process in life is..
Keep it up.
And always glad to see a new video. Doesn't even matter what it's about, I already know I'll enjoy it.
Thank you
I cannot imagine that someone can figure it all out without guides.. But it's a good challenge for experienced players to do once, will be interesting to watch streams of it
How much Noita's secrets difficult to find?
Nolla Games: Yes
Could fungal shift give you ambrosia blood? If so it would be like invincibility frames
Just made the sun at the moon, then made the baby sun at the dark moon, threw the second fire stone, prepared all the other stones... and the game crashed. Needless to say the sun despawned, now i have to find a third fire stone and a way to not have my 4 stones despawn while I summon the new sun. Fun
gotta be my least favorite thing about noita, it seems to crash so easily. especially for end game quests, you need constant mod restarts to refresh the game, otherwise you just risk corrupting your world
Holy shit I’ve had this game for about a year now and barely done any secrets cuz I just fuck around and get killed
the patience you have is insane :)
"these are huge endgame spoilers"
bruh i cant even do the voiceless key and west and east past the tree and im already spoiled by those what makes you think i can even get to the endgame of this blasted game
I wasn't able too as well at one point. But I've since done the coral chest twice, its a combo of luck and experience
@@monkeydoespride yeah lol but as they add more spells and quests and as you unlock them it becomes waaay more about knowledge and skill than luck, but yeah luck is veryyy important at the very begining, late game doe nah
I love mushrooms and I can see the devs do too 🍄🍄🍄
this is so crazy, love this game
thank you so much for the content
I love these guides
я сейчас в глубочайшем шоке, спасибо за такой крутой видос!
When you aren't there to finish the work, but to find your very own sun.
words can't describe how hard it is to do all this.
i'm already wondering if anything will happen if you smash together the sun and the black sun
Not yet. I'm wondering if it'll be possible to engulf the entire world in black hole, lol.
@@FuryForged Does Kolmi get evaporated by it? Can you kill 33 Orb Kolmi with these?
Edit: Saw your other comment, no is the answer. Aww.
@@LoponStormbased If it’s possible, I’m pretty sure that it would take basically forever lol
The suns may have killed Fury pretty quickly in this video, but the 33-orb boss has (at least) a trillion HP, and that’s on NG+1. Every additional NG+ cycle doubles the HP.
(Well, it doesn’t technically double the HP; it’s a bit more complicated, and I can’t find anything documenting the HP curve. I think it’s exponential.)
Edit: I did some math relating to the rate at which the boss’s HP increases. (Sorry to derail this reply chain, but I think it’s worth it.) Here goes.
At first, Kolmisilmä gains relatively little extra HP from orbs, with the total increasing by only ~33% with each orb at first.
The rate of increase goes up slightly for each orb, and it almost reaches doubling by the 33-orb mark. However, it isn’t until the *72-orb* mark that additional orbs increase Kolmisilmä’s HP by more than double.
I need to make some more numbers. I’ll make a separate reply soon.
Promised reply:
Fuck
Math is hard
I have no idea how to come up with a non-linear function to match a set of data. Best I can do is “it’s probably exponential.”
Just insane
when your mom tells you that you're looking pale and could do with some sun.
Nice vid but I think I'm just gonna forget about this cuz there's NO WAY I could do this without cheats. It's actually sad that there's a lot of good secrets in this game but most of them are very hard to accomplish, ESPECIALLY this one. Anyway, I appreciate your work on this, you said it took a whole week, that's a lot of time.
You’re complaining that it’s difficult to achieve the secrets in the game? Like how hard it is IRL to make a philosopher’s stone to turn lead into gold? I think it’s just realistic.
@@Solrex_the_Sun_King To be fair games are meant to be enjoyable, not realistic. I quite like Noita's secrets, but it's fair to complain about difficulty; Noita's *already* notoriously difficult, and now it has all this stuff added on that's even HARDER?
if there were an ancient txt that simply said "READ ME"... would you do it?
They should make a new challenge where you switch pairs of suns,... between parallel worlds.
Noita quests becomes crazier and crazier and that's great!
the way you said "Trust me"
*flashbacks* "Protocol 3, Protect the Pilot"
*cries*
Wow. This is just amazing.
At 8:29 you say "...and Midas damage at its core" -- what is midas damage? Does the draught of midas hurt you somehow too?
I'm fairly confident that "midas damage" is the damage you take when activating the Work and you get turned into gold. Would make sense.
Well made fury! Still a bit fuzzy on the corrupt stone just be inside the sun when using?
It does corrupt damage inside and midas damage at its core, so if it touches you, it'll insta-kill you unless you have LOTS of hp or you have stainless blood with stacks of stainless armor. Saving Grace is necessary to be safe. Extra Lives (I had about 10 in the final run) are also very helpful. You just have to break the re-rolls and go to a bunch of parallel worlds to power yourself up as much as possible in one run. Maybe they'll make it possible in NG+ loops, because I don't think it is at the moment (worn out and tired from working on this, lol.)
The *Dark* Sun also makes Ominous Liquid, so it's much more difficult to survive. The entire thing also does Midas damage. So if you touch the event horizon, then you are going to die without those other precautions.
Ohhhh, you meant the kakkakikkare? Yeah, the material it is made from isn't protected from the sun (this might be changed) so if you throw it at the sun like the other stones, it'll just be destroyed before hitting the sun. You need to actually fly *into* the sunbaby and it'll take all the stones you have on you (with the kakkakikkare) and turn into the Dark Sun.
@@FuryForged So you break the reroll machines by going through 6 parallel worlds and then coming back through them? How does that work exactly? Last time I had a long run the machine went up the like 6 trillion and then I couldn't reroll anymore no matter how much money I picked up with my 12ish greeds. Also how do you even get to a 6th parallel world without crashing constantly? I can't go past 3rd east or 2nd west without crashing every step lol.
@@FuryForged yes thank you cause if I'm going through this we are doing it the right way thank you for that info
So, in order to survive the Dark Sun long enough to move it, etc. you are going to want to find a seed where you can easily fungal shift your blood into a stainless material AND ominous liquid into a stainless material. Letaali (good ol' Letaali!) found a seed where the first shift makes oil -> silver (so get the Oil Blood perk and you are set) and the second shift is Ominous Liquid -> Acid: 1662748571. This will make the Dark Sun much more survivable after getting a bunch of Stainless.
Holy shit! The sun burning through the world on its way down!
Noita is really one of the top 10 games of the last decade!!!
Me when I see a 12 minute Noita video from fury :D
Hi Fury, is this box from some mod or it was added in the new update?
Cause it's the first time I see it and want to know more about it if it's new
The box is in the beta branch of the game available on Steam (all of this stuff is beta content). It spawns fairly commonly on potion stands or in chests and is basically the powder equivalent of a flask. It can store any powdery substance in the game (including metal dusts, etc.)
@@FuryForged So now we can do some things more easily like actually producing ambrosia
That's actually a great addition to the game
Thanks for the explanation!
@@MrDorolin Yup! It's way easier to make Ambrosia and Purifying Powder, etc. You're welcome. Have a great day.
Great Video Fury!
The DMT patch.
Nice.
11:24 THIS IS INSANE. How can any future update top this?
Brb casually losing track of the ACTUAL [result of this undertaking]
I was wondering what that doodoo rock did. Neat.
Solaire is proud of this one...
As someone who has played for less than 100 hours, I dread the day when I attempt this
You can move the black sun with a tentacle, it's slow, but consistent. Maybe homebringer telebolts work too.
To add, speed modifiers help, but light shot makes the tentacle pull it to you dangerously quickly instead of pushing it.
Sometimes, I wish I were capable of finding these things for myself. But alas. I am merely human. Fury is a god.
I didn't expect this but it's already here
I love noita Because of your video
Something so difficult should give you an amazing reward, for example *polymorph immunity*, honestly.
Wouldn't even be that op, especially when looking at how stacked you have to be to even get all the stuff needed for it.
Ngl, that’s be kinda... underwhelming...
Imagine trying to describe Noita's Sunseed quest to a friend irl, you'd sound like a madman making up nonsense lol
Noita is absolutely great and genius game. I love and respect the devs very much. This is (in some way, of course) how games SHOULD be made. This is, probably, that very same oldschool video game dev spirit.
We, the hardcore players, definately need more of such games in future. Not gacha mechanics, skin shops, endless donates, GaaS etc.
But there are only few of us, compared to the whole gamedev industry, so it will probably rare exception for nearest XXXX years.
Thank you Nolla Games and FF!
Is there more footage of the dark sun?
I have a few hours of footage of all this. I might throw together an easy video for the other channel (FurySquared) that shows more of the footage, but not today or this weekend. I'm spent from working on this and I have to make a different video for this weekend.
Hey, you've mentioned that if lucky enough it's possible to create another sun. I have a question and an idea regarding that. So, how can I obtain a second sunseed? Is the ghostskull boss generating in parallel world in similar fashion as the laboratory witch? Also in parallel world there are copies of the essences, so maybe it would be possible to get a double set of them before using an essence eater (which i know exists only one in the main world) and get 8 stones, 2 of each element from double essences?
Pretty sure it does, and that's an interesting idea.
dude a few weeks back i was thinking it'd be cool if they added something more to the tripping effect, that's great
So, in your opinion, is it harder to pull off than 33 orb run with killing final boss?
Yeah, it's definitely more difficult than a normal NG+ 33 orb run - if you have to move the sun from one moon to the other (instead of getting lucky and finding 4 more stones to make another sun at the other moon.) There are ways to get the stones (waterstone can be obtained from avarice diamond or farming great chests with a greed die/runestone of emptiness) but the tannerkivi is now fairly rare.
However, going into NG+28 and fighting the most buffed-up 33 orb Kolmi is more difficult and time consuming. Though, moving the sun and surviving the trip does also require a crazy amount of time and planning. This video took me a week of work to make. Yesterday, I worked on it from 8:30am until 1:00am alllll day, in order to finish it for today.
@@FuryForged Now what if you combined the two, and make NG+28 33 Orb Kolmi walk into the Black Hole Sun?
Also someone else mentioned the possibility of getting two sets of Stones by possibly stacking the Essence perks by grabbing them from a Parallel world, since they do spawn there.
This has to be the most ridiculous quest I’ve seen
this game is truly amazing
Dug into the earth so deep with the sun, I ended up falling into the void and finding myself in a weird room. 10/10 game.
You fell into the void down in hell? Then you fell into a weird room?
Thank you so much for going to the hints aswell now i can visit them 😁 without watching 8 hours of soemones run 😅
What happens if you drag the light sun to the dark sun or vice versa?
That is litterally insane
The new heart of the world is in balance? Where is it? What if you make 2 black suns instead? Is the black sun a reference to magic breaking the laws of nature by giving the essence of spirit to the sun?
Does anything happen when the cursed sun and the normal sun collide?
0:53 you good sir are tripping balls XD
Do you need to get the hints from the obelisks in order to do the quest? Can you just get the items and do it that way?
You do NOT need the hints if you just want to go ahead and continue with the quest. I just like to be thorough in my rundown of things.
@FuryForged My son put me on to this game about 4 days ago. It's a great game and your content is great also. Good to see your still active and thanks for responding. I don't subscribe often however your content is worth it. Keep it up 👍👍👍
@@brockjonson Hey! Thanks. That's really cool that your son turned you on to it, haha. Good taste! Have fun.
I know its a dumb question but can both suns collide?
Golden Sun vibes.
It would be much better if, on the reference to explosion, they'd write something like * "the great magical power, the death, the destroyer of world" * , which would be a clearer hint to those who know about the J. Robert Oppenheimer's commentary on the nuclear weapon!
I'm slightly disappointed it didn't require nukes specifically. Would make so much sense. The mushroom cloud, and the relation to stars.
the more i learn about this game the crazier it gets LOL
One hell of a trip
It has to be so scary being a creature in this world. Just minding your own business, and here comes that purple weirdo tugging a sun down to hell.
Can you explain how you were able to instantly drink almost half of the slime at once?
2:52 guys he said it
he sussin
Wait, how can we let the sun seed soak in the rays of the Sun, if we haven't made the Sun yet? 🤔
And we thought that the boss that guards the sampo was the final boss of the game, that it ended there, and that hell was just a place to challenge yourself...
Look where we are now, making our own suns
If you're going to break the perk machines, these days you can get gas blood instead of fungal shifting blood. You should also get ~90 stacks health max perks, which will give you infinite health. While you're doing that, grab all the copies of extra perk, perk lottery, stainless armor, stronger levitation, repelling Cape, more love, permanent shield, greed, trick greed, and extra life. With 40+ copies of stainless armor, all damage is reduced to 0, and with infinite health, all damage is reduced to 0. Put money to power on your damage wand and get yourself to infinite money. Now you need to fungal shift all three kinds of polymorphene, and after that it's nearly impossible to die. You can't take damage, you can't be polymorphed or otherwise lose defenses except by enemy attacks, non-boss enemies won't attack you unless you damage them first, and you can't damage them without killing them. Only the pit boss and the final boss will attack you with anything that could lower your defenses, and they won't fire anything fast enough to get through the shields.