I enjoy all your videos, the content is excellent, and I appreciate that you mention the Lord and honor Him. I can tell you have a relationship with Him, and to me, that makes your archery videos more enjoyable. Keep the videos coming, brother Robert.
I have a R/D longbow built by Bill Griffith at Zona Bows. It was a gift from my son. It didn't take long to discover the root of his generosity. Turns out neither one of us could hit anything with it. We were both recurve shooters and it's like you said, longbows are a different critter. So she hated me and I hated her. Thing is, I couldn't give her up. I kept at it, and one afternoon in the backyard, something just clicked. The groups tightened all the way out to 30 yds. Now both my Shakespeare RH400's are mad at me, my Ben Pearson Signature barely speaks,, and the Bears left months ago. I've often toyed with the idea of trying a Hill style bow, but I'm one bow away from a divorce so I better quit while I'm ahead. Thanks for all your wisdom and hard work. Just found your channel and subbed.
I have been shooting HH Longbows since 1990 and loving it! One deer season on opening day I carried a 54" recurve, but day 2 I carried a 66" Howard Hill bow. Strange as it may seem, carrying that straight limb longbow in the woods caused me to feel much more in tune with the woods, much more a part of it.
Thanks Robert for your videos. I too especially appreciate your references to God and His Son. Being a 74 year old Mo boy, I love my JD Berry Vixen long boy.
I Think Howard Hill was the First White Dude to Take An African Lion With a Long Bow..Could be Pope& Young.. Looking through my Peter Capstick Books Now. Great Video Brother, Greetings From Michigan,👍
Fun video Robert...glad to finally SEE you after all of these years. My only Howard Hill bow just happens to be a Wasp with osage and honey locust limbs...if shoot s great. I'm still shooting my selfbows mostly. Thanks for the video.
Hill style bows are my favorite to shoot. I shot my first one a few years ago and loved it. I finally got one early this year and it's all I shoot now.
Just got my first long bow this year ! One that my father in law built for me . Been watching some of your older deer and pig hunting videos. It has me all excited to get back in the woods
@@robertcarte95 I like the medium notched universal grip with flat on the forward side so I can still go full grip and not a modified full grip the way I have to with recurves as I have small hands that most straight grips that are not the rounded English Longbow style that some flatbows have that my hands do not fit due to either being skinny enough but too deep like a Howard Hill style grip or shallow enough but too wide like a Pope and Young style grip, the two different styles of ASL made first famous by these three archers.
Been shooting them for years, just love them. Always wanted a Northern Mist in 45# but money is no longer an option for me. It is what it is. Years ago, my first trad bow kill was with a Dan Quillian Bamboo Hunter, 45#, wish I still had it. that was the easiest bow kill that I had ever made at that point. love your videos and your reasoning.
Been shooting a Jerry Hill longbow a little over 10 years and I still haven’t mastered it. I probably never will but it a lot of fun to shoot.Thanks for the video. Take care.
I shoot an Ole Ben 5000. Yes, it stacks, and the hand shock is significant, but I have taken a lot with that bow. It feels like being with an old friend. I am preserving it now for my sons.
For decades I bought and shot compounds and recurves that all had mid to high wrist grips. But then, i started making selfbows. Then i realized, I was meant to shoot low or flat grip bows, with hand as close to arrow as possible. Didn't know what I was missing, for 35 years.
Another awesome videos sir! I have a st. Patrick lakes longbow on the way soon. Hopefully it will be here in enough time to tune and start deer season with it. Good luck this year, not that you need it, you are a killin machine!
Howard Hill Archery has produced Great Bows for many years and still does. My favorite is a 66 inch Wesley Special with 5 laminations of "Lamboo." (Laminated Bamboo) That limb core provides the fastest recovering limb core of any wood. Match that with a Cocobolo riser and you have paired the best limb core with the best heavy riser wood. 👍
I read somewhere that the Hill style bow had a flat front but the belly of the bow was curved, giving the limbs a D shape. But I never see that in any of the videos showing Hill style bows.
Well Robert you're right on track for me, again! I'm expecting my first ever asl any day, a HH Cheetah, already shipped. And already got a tree stand up, first time in about 5 years to hunt from a tree. Hope the HH style bows work for me, really looking forward to it! Thanks!
Great video Mr. Carter and I couldn’t agree more with everything you had to say about hill style bows. They are the best hunting bows and most fun to shoot in my opinion as well!
Howard Hill as well as brand Pope and Young who studied Ishi made the modern flat limb, flat handle longbows famous. I love the slightly newer notched grip due in part to hand size as some bows like the Howard Hill style are skinny enough but really deep for my small hands and the Pope and Young style bows are right depth but often too wide for my small hands so a medium universal notch/locator with flat front is what I like so I can use a full grip with a bonus that I can be more consistent with where on the bow I can grip. It is the type of bow grip Jon Lee liked to make for people who asked for a notch grip only his looked more like a small/mini locator then a notch grip from the pictures I have seen on those bows. I plan to use for hunting a bow the Youth Longbow from GREAT PLAINS TRADITIONAL BOW COMPANY in hickory with bamboo and a middle piece of carbon fiber more for linb twist in left for eye dominance at 45 pounds due to needing a 24.5--25 inch draw that an adult can call an American Style Shortbow since the bow is 52 inches and I call the bow this because it is shorter then the 56/55 inches I have seen for American Style Longbows (ASL) that have the mini to mild reflex deflex but not a true reflex deflex bow that is not the world 3D definition of a longbow. I might need to get the bow I have and put some barebow type weight to it using a Great Northern Bowfishing (/stabilizer) Gadget Adapter so I am not wobbling left and right as much due to how light the bow is.
Great info once again My 2 bows aren't quite classed as "Hill style,but more or less close. One is Ferguson Safari Plus,the other is a slight r/d longbow. From what I remember,guy I bought it from said it is a Robertson Mystical. Both are over 15 years old,but are great none the less. Next will be a Hill!
I love the Hill style bows too. But I've never shot one without a certain amount of deflex that didn't have a certain amount of hand shock. According to what I've read that translates to wasted energy that should have been being transfered to the arrow. I still love them though.
RC at 69 years old I just can't shoot them anymore. I had my Left shoulder completely replaced.November 16th 2022. After I healed I went back to shooting My Hill Style. Well after shooting it for around 36 arrows in preparation of my next morning Hunt, I ended up tearing My Rotator Cuff in my right shoulder. I go in for surgery this Thursday.I can still shoot my recurve no problem though. My shoulders just don't agree with them.
@@robertbrandywine Coming along. Thanks for asking! I'm still going to PT until the end of June. My surgeon also repaired a bicep tear that ws discovered after my MRI. I see her July 11th. I will discuss when I will be able to shoot My Black Widow PCH and My NEW PL. I recieved it right after my shoulder surgery and STILL haven't shot it. I ordered it 40# at 28". The Widow Boys nailed it. 39# at 28.
How are you measuring your Draw? Its probably longer than 25", AMO standard is groove of nock to indent of handle + 1.75". Pretty much the minimum length you can cut an arrow basically.
That's how I measure my draw length. It's 25.5. I think if a lot of people measured their draw there would be some surprised folks like me. Ii draw under my eye if I pulled behind my jaw like some it would be longer.
I've been looking into buying a Hill bow. Would you say a longer bow say 70'' is more forgiving, less hand shock then a shorter bow say 64'' or 66''? Thanks for your channel!
I have watched a lot of your videos, and always loved watching them and usually learn something new. I do have one question for you. In this video, at the beginning, I noticed that you had maybe as much as 8 to 12 inches of arrow still sticking out past your riser, when you released the shot. Do you always shoot overly long arrows? Do you end up there, just to get the tune and weight you want, with heavier spine or do you do it, because you prefer the longer arrow for aiming reasons? Just curious, or maybe you could do a video addressing your preference for arrow length.
RC, have you ever had the chance to shoot the Toelke Super D? That's Dan's take on the ALS, I didn't think it was possible to make a hill style bow with the shooting characteristics of a reflex/deflex longbow but Dan has done it.
Hello Robert, I watch your videos and they are great. Howard Hill was the best. and Robin Hood was fun to watch. My question is this. I want to make a Howard Hill style bow. Would you possibly send me the measurements to make this. Also riser length and width. My last question is what type of glue do you use. Have a great day Sir. Jay From Indianapolis In
@robertcarte95 ok thank you sir. I've been looking at getting one and I know you have a lot of experience with them. So I figured you'd be the best person to ask.
Respectively I care nothing about groups. My hunting shots average 12 yards and I almost never shoot past 15. Practicing I will shoot longer. I shoot split vision and can shoot tennis ball groups at 20 yards with 4 arrows. I seldom do that though as I usually rove around practicing with a judo. Thanks for watching.
I think those style bows are just beautiful. Long bows in general are just works of art.
I enjoy all your videos, the content is excellent, and I appreciate that you mention the Lord and honor Him. I can tell you have a relationship with Him, and to me, that makes your archery videos more enjoyable. Keep the videos coming, brother Robert.
I have a R/D longbow built by Bill Griffith at Zona Bows. It was a gift from my son. It didn't take long to discover the root of his generosity. Turns out neither one of us could hit anything with it. We were both recurve shooters and it's like you said, longbows are a different critter.
So she hated me and I hated her. Thing is, I couldn't give her up. I kept at it, and one afternoon in the backyard, something just clicked. The groups tightened all the way out to 30 yds. Now both my Shakespeare RH400's are mad at me, my Ben Pearson Signature barely speaks,, and the Bears left months ago. I've often toyed with the idea of trying a Hill style bow, but I'm one bow away from a divorce so I better quit while I'm ahead. Thanks for all your wisdom and hard work. Just found your channel and subbed.
I have been shooting HH Longbows since 1990 and loving it! One deer season on opening day I carried a 54" recurve, but day 2 I carried a 66" Howard Hill bow. Strange as it may seem, carrying that straight limb longbow in the woods caused me to feel much more in tune with the woods, much more a part of it.
Thanks Robert for your videos. I too especially appreciate your references to God and His Son. Being a 74 year old Mo boy, I love my JD Berry Vixen long boy.
I Think Howard Hill was the First White Dude to Take An African Lion With a Long Bow..Could be Pope& Young.. Looking through my Peter Capstick Books Now.
Great Video Brother, Greetings From Michigan,👍
Fun video Robert...glad to finally SEE you after all of these years. My only Howard Hill bow just happens to be a Wasp with osage and honey locust limbs...if shoot s great. I'm still shooting my selfbows mostly. Thanks for the video.
Hill style bows are my favorite to shoot. I shot my first one a few years ago and loved it. I finally got one early this year and it's all I shoot now.
Just got my first long bow this year ! One that my father in law built for me . Been watching some of your older deer and pig hunting videos. It has me all excited to get back in the woods
Thanks for watching. I'm itching to get after them as well!0
@@robertcarte95 I like the medium notched universal grip with flat on the forward side so I can still go full grip and not a modified full grip the way I have to with recurves as I have small hands that most straight grips that are not the rounded English Longbow style that some flatbows have that my hands do not fit due to either being skinny enough but too deep like a Howard Hill style grip or shallow enough but too wide like a Pope and Young style grip, the two different styles of ASL made first famous by these three archers.
Great info, thank you!
Comfortable bows to shoot, classic look!
Thanks for sharing Robert.
My grandpa says he met him one time in the mountains in California. Hill gave him a few tips on instinct shooting with a .22.
Well RC, I watched this again cause it seems you've help spread the HH Style Bow Fever to a bunch, me being one, and I'm glad you did! I'm loving it!
Been shooting them for years, just love them. Always wanted a Northern Mist in 45# but money is no longer an option for me. It is what it is. Years ago, my first trad bow kill was with a Dan Quillian Bamboo Hunter, 45#, wish I still had it. that was the easiest bow kill that I had ever made at that point. love your videos and your reasoning.
Been shooting a Jerry Hill longbow a little over 10 years and I still haven’t mastered it. I probably never will but it a lot of fun to shoot.Thanks for the video. Take care.
I shoot an Ole Ben 5000. Yes, it stacks, and the hand shock is significant, but I have taken a lot with that bow. It feels like being with an old friend. I am preserving it now for my sons.
Thanks for sharing your insights and thoughts on the Howard hill longbow. Good information brother.
Well said and feel the same way. Thats a beautiful bow Donnie made ya too!
For decades I bought and shot compounds and recurves that all had mid to high wrist grips. But then, i started making selfbows. Then i realized, I was meant to shoot low or flat grip bows, with hand as close to arrow as possible. Didn't know what I was missing, for 35 years.
Spot on Rob. I agree in that there are faster, and more forgiving bows but Hill style longbows have the silence and fun factor in spades.
Thanks for the video Robert. Appreciate you explanation!
Another awesome videos sir! I have a st. Patrick lakes longbow on the way soon. Hopefully it will be here in enough time to tune and start deer season with it. Good luck this year, not that you need it, you are a killin machine!
Robert, I would rather shoot a slower quiet bow than a fast louder bow any day! Quiet makes up for speed in my hunting.
Great video! Thanks for posting!
Howard Hill Archery has produced Great Bows for many years and still does. My favorite is a 66 inch Wesley Special with 5 laminations of "Lamboo." (Laminated Bamboo) That limb core provides the fastest recovering limb core of any wood. Match that with a Cocobolo riser and you have paired the best limb core with the best heavy riser wood. 👍
I read somewhere that the Hill style bow had a flat front but the belly of the bow was curved, giving the limbs a D shape. But I never see that in any of the videos showing Hill style bows.
An English longbow is built like that.
nice video! great looking bows as well.
Great information Robert
Well Robert you're right on track for me, again! I'm expecting my first ever asl any day, a HH Cheetah, already shipped. And already got a tree stand up, first time in about 5 years to hunt from a tree. Hope the HH style bows work for me, really looking forward to it! Thanks!
Thanks for another great video, you have some nice bows for sure
Great talk
Great video Mr. Carter and I couldn’t agree more with everything you had to say about hill style bows. They are the best hunting bows and most fun to shoot in my opinion as well!
My long game is for the ASL. I foresee it happening in the next couple years. They are calling me big time!
Howard Hill as well as brand Pope and Young who studied Ishi made the modern flat limb, flat handle longbows famous. I love the slightly newer notched grip due in part to hand size as some bows like the Howard Hill style are skinny enough but really deep for my small hands and the Pope and Young style bows are right depth but often too wide for my small hands so a medium universal notch/locator with flat front is what I like so I can use a full grip with a bonus that I can be more consistent with where on the bow I can grip. It is the type of bow grip Jon Lee liked to make for people who asked for a notch grip only his looked more like a small/mini locator then a notch grip from the pictures I have seen on those bows. I plan to use for hunting a bow the Youth Longbow from GREAT PLAINS TRADITIONAL BOW COMPANY in hickory with bamboo and a middle piece of carbon fiber more for linb twist in left for eye dominance at 45 pounds due to needing a 24.5--25 inch draw that an adult can call an American Style Shortbow since the bow is 52 inches and I call the bow this because it is shorter then the 56/55 inches I have seen for American Style Longbows (ASL) that have the mini to mild reflex deflex but not a true reflex deflex bow that is not the world 3D definition of a longbow. I might need to get the bow I have and put some barebow type weight to it using a Great Northern Bowfishing (/stabilizer) Gadget Adapter so I am not wobbling left and right as much due to how light the bow is.
Great info once again
My 2 bows aren't quite classed as "Hill style,but more or less close. One is Ferguson Safari Plus,the other is a slight r/d longbow. From what I remember,guy I bought it from said it is a Robertson Mystical. Both are over 15 years old,but are great none the less. Next will be a Hill!
I have had both of those bows. The Mystical is one I wish I had back!
Yes sir 👍🏻
I love the Hill style bows too. But I've never shot one without a certain amount of deflex that didn't have a certain amount of hand shock. According to what I've read that translates to wasted energy that should have been being transfered to the arrow. I still love them though.
RC at 69 years old I just can't shoot them anymore. I had my Left shoulder completely replaced.November 16th 2022. After I healed I went back to shooting My Hill Style. Well after shooting it for around 36 arrows in preparation of my next morning Hunt, I ended up tearing My Rotator Cuff in my right shoulder. I go in for surgery this Thursday.I can still shoot my recurve no problem though. My shoulders just don't agree with them.
How is your shoulder doing?
@@robertbrandywine Coming along. Thanks for asking! I'm still going to PT until the end of June. My surgeon also repaired a bicep tear that ws discovered after my MRI. I see her July 11th. I will discuss when I will be able to shoot My Black Widow PCH and My NEW PL. I recieved it right after my shoulder surgery and STILL haven't shot it. I ordered it 40# at 28". The Widow Boys nailed it. 39# at 28.
U seem like a cool dude to talk too. Love your vids man
Thanks. My dog thinks I'm cool! Grandson too...wife thinks I'm crazy.lol
How are you measuring your Draw? Its probably longer than 25", AMO standard is groove of nock to indent of handle + 1.75". Pretty much the minimum length you can cut an arrow basically.
That's how I measure my draw length. It's 25.5. I think if a lot of people measured their draw there would be some surprised folks like me. Ii draw under my eye if I pulled behind my jaw like some it would be longer.
I've been looking into buying a Hill bow. Would you say a longer bow say 70'' is more forgiving, less hand shock then a shorter bow say 64'' or 66''? Thanks for your channel!
Depends on your draw length. 27" I would get a 66" , 28 a 68" and 29 a 70".
@@robertcarte95Thank you!
I have watched a lot of your videos, and always loved watching them and usually learn something new.
I do have one question for you. In this video, at the beginning, I noticed that you had maybe as much as 8 to 12 inches of arrow still sticking out past your riser, when you released the shot. Do you always shoot overly long arrows? Do you end up there, just to get the tune and weight you want, with heavier spine or do you do it, because you prefer the longer arrow for aiming reasons? Just curious, or maybe you could do a video addressing your preference for arrow length.
I shoot longer arrows for the weight and for closing the gap. I shoot split vision .
I figured that was it. I shot split vision, also, for the most part. But I don't run my arrows quite that long. @@robertcarte95
I like a Hill bow also. I cant shoot one without an arm guard tho. I get the red wrist.
RC, have you ever had the chance to shoot the Toelke Super D? That's Dan's take on the ALS, I didn't think it was possible to make a hill style bow with the shooting characteristics of a reflex/deflex longbow but Dan has done it.
I have owned one. Good bow. They have a slight r/ d to them. Very little though.
Love your videos very informative. Do you have one on how to tune a bow?
I don't think so. I may put one out soon.
@@robertcarte95 thank you
Hello Robert, I watch your videos and they are great. Howard Hill was the best. and Robin Hood was fun to watch. My question is this. I want to make a Howard Hill style bow. Would you possibly send me the measurements to make this. Also riser length and width. My last question is what type of glue do you use. Have a great day Sir. Jay From Indianapolis In
I'm not much of a bowyer. I would encourage you to check with binghams projects for all the info and materials needed to build your bow.
@@robertcarte95 thanks for your help
Thanks robert for sharing. Any opinion on jerry hill longbows?
Never owned one and only shot one a couple times. It shot where I was looking.
Thanks for the reply.
Hey Mr Robert, just curious, which grip is more comfortable the northern mist or the creek walker?
I like the Creek Walker. Nothing wrong with the NM though p
@robertcarte95 ok thank you sir. I've been looking at getting one and I know you have a lot of experience with them. So I figured you'd be the best person to ask.
It looks like it has mostly a thickness taper and very little width taper. What is the advantage of that particular taper profile?
Not much of a bowyer. You would have to ask a pro. I just glue up stuff that looks right .lol
@@robertcarte95 ok, I thought that maybe the taper profile was characteristic of the Hill style longbow.
I am pretty certain that I have one of the best Sunset Hills ever made.
Lucky rascal! Lol
140 f/s. Wow. You must be very accurate with them. What is the furthest distance that you shoot this bow and still get tight groups? Great video, btw
Respectively I care nothing about groups. My hunting shots average 12 yards and I almost never shoot past 15. Practicing I will shoot longer. I shoot split vision and can shoot tennis ball groups at 20 yards with 4 arrows. I seldom do that though as I usually rove around practicing with a judo. Thanks for watching.
@@robertcarte95 Keep them videos with ASL coming, Robert. They're good stuff. Thanks
Hello Mr carter what type of string do you use? Your bows certainly are quite.
I use d97.
@robertcarte95 thank you Mr carter keep up the good content and God bless you and your family.
The Howard hill bow you built is it backed with fiberglass
Yessir.
Love your videos. I heard you say that you don’t want suggestions on target panic- so I’m not telling you to get Joel Turners course.
Thanks. I'm good. I did watch his stuff and he is sharp.
Where do I get one?
Howard Hill Archery , Northern Mist longbows, Creek walker trading company.
Hey. Stop throwing my bow on the ground.
You better come get it....folks offering cash!! Lol
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Why don’t you just build your own just like the sunset hill bows you do build bows
I have built around 20. I didn't learn from John Schulz like Nate Steen did of Sunset Hill. He is a Master of his craft
The bow I'm holding up in the picture I built.