Good shootin Tex,,,I have hunted with my vintage 55# Howard Hill bow since 1967, before that I hunted with a 31# 60" Howard Hill style bow I built in 1962, I still have it and shoot it,,,of all my bows my HH bows rule,,,good show young man, great information and you shoot very well,,,😮😊❤❤❤❤❤🖖🤏
I hunted the first day of deer season with a 52" recurve. The next day I hunted with my Hill Wesley Special 66" longbow. I can't explain it, but I felt a much greater connection to the woods with that bow.
Matt, love the content. Big fan Of Howard Hill since childhood. I'm so impressed to see an Archer Outdoors and shooting his bow In the snow. I think most archers Put their gear up when the weather Turns cold. In my younger years I enjoyed stalking the cedar swamps Of Michigan's Upper Peninsula hunting snowshoe hares. It Warms my heart to see someone Still has the passion to be out There slinging arrows in the snow. To those who are afraid of losing Arrows, they will be there in the Spring! 😂
@@mattswildpointofview5057 Matt, you might be shooting with greater power than you realize. For example, I have a longbow that is 74# at 28". I would predict that at 31" this bow is heavier by the ratio (31"-10")/(28"-10)=1.167, for a predicted draw weight of 86.3#@31". When I actually measure it with an electronic bow scale I get 87.5#, due to some stacking. But drawn to 31" this bow would have a greater power stroke than a bow that is 87.5#@28", so to compute the stored energy at 31" I must multiply by the factor 1.167 again, which means that when drawn to 31" this bow will have the predicted stored energy of a bow of draw weight 1.167x1.167x74#=101#@28" when drawn to 28". For a 65#@28" bow the predictions are 76#@31" and the stored energy (and thus arrow speed) of an 88.5#@28" bow drawn to 28". Ok, this reply might be driving you nuts and you might not care about all this, but the bottom line is drawing deep gives tremendous arrow speed. I am primarily a flight shooter, so I really push my bow arm out to the max and draw deep to achieve distance. Of course, I don't have to worry about hitting anything but planet earth, which is an ample target. Keep up the great shooting!
@@jamesmartin3765 Yes sir you are correct, most all my bows I've had made for me are 65# @28 and all of them at my long draw are in the mid to high 70s # depending on the stacking. I'd like to do a video in the future explaining this because a lot of folks don't understand how that works. I've also noticed that trapped limbs help with less stacking at longer draws compared to my bows that are not. Always something to talk about in the land of traditional archery.
@@mattswildpointofview5057 hey Matt, i did! I'm just getting into trad bow shooting and hunting, so these videos are quite helpful to me 👍 :) . Best regards from Denmark! Claus
I went from selfbow and self made cane arrows and stone point to a traditional longbow with carbon arrows and its been a weird trip so far but my groups at 25 are crazy good i really hope to get a gn longbow one day i really enjoyed the video and you definitely got another sub
I did the same thing, I started with self bows and primitive equipment but started shooting traditional years back when family and life started eating up a lot of the time I used to spend making equipment. Thanks for subscribing hope you enjoy.
I make my own bows and I do have to agree, any of the longer limbed bows are just more forgiving to shoot. They'll never be as fast, but a bad day with a longbow generally involves hitting the outer rings of a target. A bad day with my little Turkish bow (like this morning) means searching for arrows in the grass. I'm hoping next year to go turkey hunting with my little turkish bow. At only 46 inches tip to tip shooting with a thumb draw, blinds aren't a challenge at all.
I bought a used one out of the Martin Collection years ago and it is one of the Best shooting bows I’ve ever shot. Your right it is very forgiving. It always surprises me when I shoot it. Very dependable and Stable ! It is the most traditional bow I have. You have made me want to shot it. Guess I’ll be getting it out and shooting it soon. I have a dog leg 59 Kodiac Bear Bow with the original string , looks mint neatly and it surprised me. I haven’t strung it in years . It’s so beautiful still I would hate to mess it up.
Man that is just fantastic accuracy. I definitely want a longbow in my collection. Bought my first recurve last weekend, kinda went the techy aluminum riser route but kept costs low.
Thanks man. This is a sweet shooting 68" but yes possible in the right blinds I guess I was talking more like homemade brush blinds and such. I still like a shorter bow in most blinds but this bow has definitely put some meat in the freezer.
People have been using a stick and string for thousands of years for hunting and warfare, so the speed is just fine. Most archers that talk about speed only just do have the patience it takes to master a traditional bow. The key here People is kinetic energy. As someone who shoots heavy bows 100# + yeah a 70 or 80lb compound will always be fast but shooting a 100lb longbow launching a 800g arrow is like comparing a rifle round to a shotgun slug.
Very cool. I enjoyed your podcast episode with Bowhunting Soul. This is about the only style of bow I haven't tried, yet. I may need to try one. They seem like the most rugged design of all bows, too.
Yes definitely in my opinion the most rugged and forgiving to shooter error. I appreciate it the podcast was a nice talk I always enjoy talking with like minded folks.
ive got a pse legasy, longbow 55lb , i bought it in the 80s ff string, i hunted and tagged from a treestand w/ her, 68 in, laminated , i brace height the shock out and now sweet!
This was an awesome video. Would love to see more videos like this, especially how you changed hunting situations. I would also enjoy some shooting instructions from you as a hunter... so much info out there is from target/3-D shooters.
I love the ASL and wood arrows. It’s peanut butter and jelly. If I can make it work here in the north Idaho pine jungle, you can make the bow work anywhere.
I shoot the PSE Oryx hill style bow. 68” amo and 50# @ 28”. Love it. Always shot trad recurve but last year I switched to the longbow. Today I just put a fast flight Flemish twist string on it. Even better. I shoot cedar arrows spines for my bow and the fly true. I have UA-cam vids of me shooting it. Great video. Liked and subscribed. Cheers from Canada👍🇨🇦😎🏹
Great video , I have a Northern Mist Whisper on order and can't wait to get it in my hands , I agree that speed isn't everything , I shoot a Montana longbow and it's plenty fast I just love to shoot traditional bows. Thanks for an awesome video.
Man Steve Turay makes a awesome bow! no doubt you will be happy with his work. Thanks for watching I will have a bow review on a three peace takedown up soon be sure to give it a watch.
Thanks. Its a coffee wood riser and I'm a fan of temperd bamboo or Red Cedar for core wood on most D bows but I have shot a couple with maple core that shot good.
I mean...it IS a slow bow by comparison to the latest and greatest compounds...that is the wrong question to ask though, the question that should be addressed is whether or not your form is good enough to put the arrow where it needs to be when it matters...lots of deer and elk etc every year are taken by traditional archery equipment
I loved this vdeo. This type inspires me much more than someone shooting paper targets. I have a Northern Mist Classic Hill style longbow and love it. It shoots smoother than most recurves I ever shot. But have a question: What is that round target you are shooting on the ground? Looks like a small wheel with styrofoam in middle. This video reminded me of my friend Gary Arthur in Michigan. In fact he got me back into archery and I shot my first game animal while visiting him in Michigan.
Great shooting and video. Physics though, come into play to cancel what you said about cast. Speed out of the bow, at a certain arrow weight, is the only thing that plays into cast. A longbow, shooting slower, does not somehow make up in some mysterious way, to throw an arrow farther.
Nice shooting and u should chrony this bow. Saying it's fast by feel isn't that accurate but still works I guess. And yes longer bows are definitely more forgiving. I shoot a 48" and a 53" tatar. Bows longer than that are very stable but not always as fast. But that's a tradeoff.
Great video. I recently did one on the Northern Mist Classic. I’m definitely not a Hill bow guy lol! But at least I know now and can say I’ve given the ASL an honest chance. Subbed to your channel. Great stuff 👍
Hi Matt. I sure enjoyed watching this video. I have wanted to try shooting a Hill style longbow for some time now. I currently am shooting a 45 pound reflex-deflex longbow made by Jeff Phillips at Instinctive Addiction Archery. It's a really nice bow and it shoots great. But I would still like to try one like yours. If you don't mind, what model of bow are you shooting from Great Northern?? Thanks Matt would sure like to hear from you. Thanks. Jim
I recently bought a Bear Super Kodiak recurve. It was purchased purely out of nostalgia for Fred Bear. However, many years ago I went from a Red Wing Hunter (a great bow) to a Saxon Express longbow. I would never go back to a recurve. As for compounds, never. If you want a true religious experience, shoot either a long bow or recurve. A self-bow might even bring you closer to the creator. Oh yah, use wood arrows.
Nice man and yes longer bows are definitely more forgiving. I have a 54" angular bow and a 48" horsebow and short bows are fast but less forgiving. It's a tradeoff but of course draw weight comes into play and u can shoot a lower poundage both short and long accurately
Short bows actually aren't faster. The shorter the bow the less energy is stored as compared to the same draw weight in the longer bow. If you straightened your reflex deflex out it would probably be about the same length as the longbow.
@@larryreese6146 and no the bow is measured as they all are at ntn length. I've never gone with strung length. Short bows are generally faster because they have less limbs to move especially compared to a longbow. For instance piking a bow or making it shorter both increases the speed and weight of the bow. Less mass in the limbs means more speed.
@@larryreese6146 . A turkish bow is much shorter and can store way more energy than a longbow. It's about reflex/recurve that makes the bow fast. A turkish bow will always outshoot a longbow because of the energy storage in that short composite bow
For fun I fletched a heavy fiberglass fishing arrow. Estimated weight was about 1300 grains. Two things really stood out. The arrow flight speed was a lot slower, but the penetration into a new hay bail was 1/3 deeper than with my standard arrows. (26” cedar shafts and 160 grain bullet points)
Nice video. I have a 68" Farmington Black Horn that I am pretty sure s a Hill style. Draws so smooth and is very forgiving just as you described your bow to be. Good insights and opinions you have on these style bows which I completely agree. Thanks Matt! Sub!
very thin bow, and a long riser must be comfortable and seems forgiving it's more important than the speed of the arrow (i don't understand this obsession) the longbow is the bow of mature archers
Muy buen arco longbow me gustaria tener uno asi aca no hay nada de eso sea de arqueria sea de negicios no no lo hay y hay muchas jente que le gusta y lo practica tambien pero aca en argentina no hay negicios de arqueria no lo hay se compran encargando las cosas y te tardan meces para que te llegue aca en argentina tarda muy mucho para que lleguee saludos abrazo de Argentina yo me quiero irme a vivir haya canada oh Alaska si tendria alguien que me llame de alla me voy a trabajar y hacer arqueria me gusta mucho soy soldador si saben de algo me llaman se los voy a gradecer un abrazo de argentina
So thats my problem! I keep waiting for the deer with a big target drawn on it 😉 I have taken deer just sitting in front of a wide Oak tree with short brush around me. Just cant move while they're looking at you.
I love the ASL but I am afraid to say they aren’t forgiving. This is a common myth. The ASL requires consistent form which isn’t a bad thing. There’s several reasons for this. First the grips are typically straight or slightly dished. hand placement and grip pressures are critical. Mass weight is typically less making it very easy to move the bow arm off target at the shot. They typically aren’t cut to center making arrow tune and sight picture a little more challenging However there’s no feeling that compares to a well placed shot from a ASL, they give a unexplainable satisfaction level unique to them alone, in my opinion. Secondly the “cast” theory is incorrect and another myth. The same arrow traveling at 150fps at 10 yards is going to slow and drop the same regardless if it was shot from an ASL or recurve. Simple physics. Speed is a way of measuring transferred energy so in one sense speed does matter but that’s a different topic. There’s no more or less energy stored in the same arrow traveling 150fps. The difference is typically ASL shooters are going to be using a heavier arrow which does help momentum down range. A heavier object in motion retains more energy for a longer period of time again up to a point of Diminishing returns. In part a bow can only transfer so much energy into an arrow. A heavy arrow Absorbs more of the stored energy in the bow limbs. Again there is limits in both directions when dealing with arrow weight. Another topic of its own. Meaning for example a guy with a recurve and light arrow may not see the performance an ASL guy shooting a heavier arrow does and this the myth was started. Take the same well crafted recurve with the heavier arrow with all other factors equal and the recurve will once again be on top proven by a faster arrow speed. In other words at no point will an ASL that’s shooting 150fps with a 500gr arrow surpass a recurve shooting the same arrow at the same speed due to a ASL’s “cast” ability. A well crafted bow is a well crafted bow. True and with that in mind a recurve will always out perform a straight limb longbow. A recurve by design and why it was designed transfers more of the stored energy in the working limbs pound for pound A 45lb bow has 45lbs worth of energy stored in the limbs regardless if it’s an ASL, recurve, selfbow, R/D longbow etc. Bow design allows for more or less of that energy to be transferred into the arrow to the point of the arrow’s ability to absorb the energy transfer. Here we could discuss why bows have hand shock,bow noise etc but we won’t. The ASL is definitely a slower design but as you said if your looking for speed with traditional bows then you missed the point. They have plenty of speed as far as anyone should be shooting at live game or most will at targets. When discussing pros and cons of anything. There’s hard facts, Circumstantial facts and also personal choices. We could compare a recurve to a compound or a compound to a crossbow even a crossbow to a firearm but none of it would be a apples to apples comparison. I choose to shoot an ASL not because it’s the best design based entirely on a performance scale but because it’s what I enjoy and it does everything i need it to do or for that matter any traditional archer would. Anyone thinking about trying an ASL is doing themselves a disadvantage by comparing it to other designs. None of this was to suggest there’s no advantages with the ASL design because there are some but again that’s not really why most will choose to shoot one. It’s an ASL,enjoy it for what it is. I sure do.
Amen. I hunter the first day of deer season with a 52" recurve. The next day I hunted with my Hill Wesley Special 66" longbow. I can't explain it, but I felt a much greater connection to the woods with that bow.
Ya don't have to convince me...started shooting longbows more than 40 years ago...they're killers! Everything from waterfowl, upland game, and all manners of big game have fallen to my longbows
Thats awesome man, Its great to have all that experience hopefully you are sharing that hunting knowledge with other folks so we can keep the tradition going. Thanks for watching.
The real potential of the American Semi Longbow is in the Hill Method of shooting. Designed for hunting by the worlds greatest archer Howard Hill. Great bow but for those watching the style of shooting is in contrast to its design.
Native Americans made self bows made from a single stave of wood , Sometimes they would back the bow with sinue , rawhide and other natural materials to make fantastic bows. This is a modern laminated wood fiberglass bow, This stile was made most famous by Howard Hill and that is why a lot of people call it a "Hill Bow" or "Hill Stile Bow" There are other names fore this bow but most just call it a Hill Stile bow. Very different than Native bows but I do build native self bows and will probably have one on here soon. There are many different longbows They are all named by the design of the bow but all considered a longbow.
Why do you look so awkward when you knock the arrows? You knock like a kid touching an arrow for the first time. How did you learn how to shoot, but never learned how to knock an arrow? I keep expecting to see you drop the arrow each time it looks so awkward.
I've learned To inspect my nocks while nocking an arrow when shooting in the cold, these plastic nocks in particular tend to get cracking going on and can break upon release. When your knock breaks its the equivalent of dry firing your bow in below freezing temps.
Good shootin Tex,,,I have hunted with my vintage 55# Howard Hill bow since 1967, before that I hunted with a 31# 60" Howard Hill style bow I built in 1962, I still have it and shoot it,,,of all my bows my HH bows rule,,,good show young man, great information and you shoot very well,,,😮😊❤❤❤❤❤🖖🤏
Thank you
I hunted the first day of deer season with a 52" recurve. The next day I hunted with my Hill Wesley Special 66" longbow. I can't explain it, but I felt a much greater connection to the woods with that bow.
Thanks for sharing. Love that you say what you want to say!
Thank you
Great stuff Matt, you are too modest. You are one hell of a shot! Keep putting out videos they are great!
Thank you. I'm working on more videos when I have time.
Totally agree a long bow is much more forgiving and shoots great.
Nice Demo. Nice Bow. You are a good shot.
thank you
Yea man cool landscape, love waching good heavy hitting bows with plenty of excellent photography shots, not enough to be found. Thoroughly enjoyed.
Thanks glad you enjoyed it.
Matt, love the content. Big fan
Of Howard Hill since childhood.
I'm so impressed to see an Archer
Outdoors and shooting his bow
In the snow. I think most archers
Put their gear up when the weather
Turns cold. In my younger years
I enjoyed stalking the cedar swamps
Of Michigan's Upper Peninsula hunting snowshoe hares. It
Warms my heart to see someone
Still has the passion to be out
There slinging arrows in the snow.
To those who are afraid of losing
Arrows, they will be there in the
Spring! 😂
Excellent video. 30 years ago I got a Howard Hill “Big Five” by Craig Ekin. Fantastic bows. Love my long bows.
Thank you. Those big Fives are enjoyed by a lot of Hill lovers and are great bows, although I've only shot one of them I did enjoy it.
Great shooting, well done! Hill bows are my favorite bows, I love the light weight, the quiet shooting and the history. Fun video to watch.
Thank you and glad you enjoyed it.
@@mattswildpointofview5057 Matt, you might be shooting with greater power than you realize. For example, I have a longbow that is 74# at 28". I would predict that at 31" this bow is heavier by the ratio (31"-10")/(28"-10)=1.167, for a predicted draw weight of 86.3#@31". When I actually measure it with an electronic bow scale I get 87.5#, due to some stacking. But drawn to 31" this bow would have a greater power stroke than a bow that is 87.5#@28", so to compute the stored energy at 31" I must multiply by the factor 1.167 again, which means that when drawn to 31" this bow will have the predicted stored energy of a bow of draw weight 1.167x1.167x74#=101#@28" when drawn to 28". For a 65#@28" bow the predictions are 76#@31" and the stored energy (and thus arrow speed) of an 88.5#@28" bow drawn to 28". Ok, this reply might be driving you nuts and you might not care about all this, but the bottom line is drawing deep gives tremendous arrow speed. I am primarily a flight shooter, so I really push my bow arm out to the max and draw deep to achieve distance. Of course, I don't have to worry about hitting anything but planet earth, which is an ample target. Keep up the great shooting!
@@jamesmartin3765 Yes sir you are correct, most all my bows I've had made for me are 65# @28 and all of them at my long draw are in the mid to high 70s # depending on the stacking. I'd like to do a video in the future explaining this because a lot of folks don't understand how that works. I've also noticed that trapped limbs help with less stacking at longer draws compared to my bows that are not. Always something to talk about in the land of traditional archery.
Another good video. Thank you! Oh. And that's some pretty good shooting! 🎯
Thanks and glad you enjoyed it.
@@mattswildpointofview5057 hey Matt, i did! I'm just getting into trad bow shooting and hunting, so these videos are quite helpful to me 👍 :) .
Best regards from Denmark!
Claus
Matt, Great video. I love the longbow shooting you're doing. If you get the time I'd sure like to see more of your longbow videos.
Thanks you are not the first to ask that I do more of Traditional longbow shooting so I should make the time.
I went from selfbow and self made cane arrows and stone point to a traditional longbow with carbon arrows and its been a weird trip so far but my groups at 25 are crazy good i really hope to get a gn longbow one day i really enjoyed the video and you definitely got another sub
I did the same thing, I started with self bows and primitive equipment but started shooting traditional years back when family and life started eating up a lot of the time I used to spend making equipment. Thanks for subscribing hope you enjoy.
I make my own bows and I do have to agree, any of the longer limbed bows are just more forgiving to shoot. They'll never be as fast, but a bad day with a longbow generally involves hitting the outer rings of a target. A bad day with my little Turkish bow (like this morning) means searching for arrows in the grass. I'm hoping next year to go turkey hunting with my little turkish bow. At only 46 inches tip to tip shooting with a thumb draw, blinds aren't a challenge at all.
Agreed and that little bow would be a awesome little blind bow.
I bought a used one out of the Martin Collection years ago and it is one of the Best shooting bows I’ve ever shot. Your right it is very forgiving. It always surprises me when I shoot it. Very dependable and Stable ! It is the most traditional bow I have. You have made me want to shot it. Guess I’ll be getting it out and shooting it soon. I have a dog leg 59 Kodiac Bear Bow with the original string , looks mint neatly and it surprised me. I haven’t strung it in years . It’s so beautiful still I would hate to mess it up.
Im glad to hear that. get those bows out they were built to be shot. happy shooting.
This guy is a Great shot
Man that is just fantastic accuracy. I definitely want a longbow in my collection. Bought my first recurve last weekend, kinda went the techy aluminum riser route but kept costs low.
YOU SHOOT VERY WELL. I ALSO HAVE ONE I LOVE THESE HOWARD HILL-TYPE BOWS.
Thank you. they are great bows .
Good shooting, I use 66" hill style bows and never had trouble with tree stands also use ground blinds without issue with the right ones.
Thanks man. This is a sweet shooting 68" but yes possible in the right blinds I guess I was talking more like homemade brush blinds and such. I still like a shorter bow in most blinds but this bow has definitely put some meat in the freezer.
Love this VID, so much basic and usefull info. I also love the camo u use, so many get tracked into commmercial camo.
HH bows are great for long treks since their so light in weight.
Absolutely
Great video, thank you!
People have been using a stick and string for thousands of years for hunting and warfare, so the speed is just fine. Most archers that talk about speed only just do have the patience it takes to master a traditional bow. The key here People is kinetic energy. As someone who shoots heavy bows 100# + yeah a 70 or 80lb compound will always be fast but shooting a 100lb longbow launching a 800g arrow is like comparing a rifle round to a shotgun slug.
My favorite bow is a pacific yew by Jay StCharles, same style as a Hill bow. Very smooth
Very cool. I enjoyed your podcast episode with Bowhunting Soul. This is about the only style of bow I haven't tried, yet. I may need to try one. They seem like the most rugged design of all bows, too.
Yes definitely in my opinion the most rugged and forgiving to shooter error. I appreciate it the podcast was a nice talk I always enjoy talking with like minded folks.
ive got a pse legasy, longbow 55lb , i bought it in the 80s ff string, i hunted and tagged from a treestand w/ her, 68 in, laminated , i brace height the shock out and now sweet!
Ive heard good things about those bows and good brace hight can definitely make a big difference in a bow. Happy hunting brother.
This was an awesome video. Would love to see more videos like this, especially how you changed hunting situations. I would also enjoy some shooting instructions from you as a hunter... so much info out there is from target/3-D shooters.
I love the ASL and wood arrows. It’s peanut butter and jelly. If I can make it work here in the north Idaho pine jungle, you can make the bow work anywhere.
Thats true you cam make it work. Great time tested and proven combo.
Very nice! Big fan of traditional longbows and selfbows, but I haven't yet acquired a Hill style bow. I think thats gotta change!
Thanks, If you get a nice one you will love it
Great shooting!!!
Thank you.
I shoot the PSE Oryx hill style bow. 68” amo and 50# @ 28”. Love it. Always shot trad recurve but last year I switched to the longbow. Today I just put a fast flight Flemish twist string on it. Even better. I shoot cedar arrows spines for my bow and the fly true. I have UA-cam vids of me shooting it. Great video. Liked and subscribed. Cheers from Canada👍🇨🇦😎🏹
Nice I'll have to try one out if I get a chance.
Great video , I have a Northern Mist Whisper on order and can't wait to get it in my hands , I agree that speed isn't everything , I shoot a Montana longbow and it's plenty fast I just love to shoot traditional bows. Thanks for an awesome video.
Man Steve Turay makes a awesome bow! no doubt you will be happy with his work. Thanks for watching I will have a bow review on a three peace takedown up soon be sure to give it a watch.
@@mattswildpointofview5057 looking forward to watching
Awesome shooting!! Arrows look like Trail Walkers from 3 Rivers Archery
Nice shooting love the profile of a D bow can you please share your riser wood and what you prefer for a core wood on limbs. Thanks
Thanks. Its a coffee wood riser and I'm a fan of temperd bamboo or Red Cedar for core wood on most D bows but I have shot a couple with maple core that shot good.
Great video, bro! Speed doesen’t matter, and the arrow weight also helps with hand shock. Good shooting and good points
Thanks brother. I've been enjoying your videos as well. Them Roe deer look like a lot of fun.
Wow nice video nice looking longbow greatnorthern longbow has always been on my list what is the wood combination? I shoot a Howard hill big 5
I really Like them Howard hill bows. This bow is black locust tempered bamboo core and coffee wood riser. Thanks for watching.
Great shooting and a great bow.
My longbow and I will be following your journey 🎯
I mean...it IS a slow bow by comparison to the latest and greatest compounds...that is the wrong question to ask though, the question that should be addressed is whether or not your form is good enough to put the arrow where it needs to be when it matters...lots of deer and elk etc every year are taken by traditional archery equipment
I loved this vdeo. This type inspires me much more than someone shooting paper targets. I have a Northern Mist Classic Hill style longbow and love it. It shoots smoother than most recurves I ever shot. But have a question: What is that round target you are shooting on the ground? Looks like a small wheel with styrofoam in middle. This video reminded me of my friend Gary Arthur in Michigan. In fact he got me back into archery and I shot my first game animal while visiting him in Michigan.
Good shooting Man, kind of longing for a proper Longbow like that now🤠
Thanks. It really is a great bow, I would recommend Great Northern Bows to anyone
Thanks, Matt
Looks like where I live in Ontario
I made lowbows last winter..some shoot well and some not so fine.
Subscribed..best wishes
Max
Keep building them bows Max and thanks for subscribing. Canada is a beautiful place full of adventure.
On a 40-45# HH style bow I prefer 500 spine carbon arrows with 125gr tip and 5 inch shield cut fletching😊
Not a bad way to go.
I keep saying I'm going to hunt with the Varang Lux one of these seasons.
Can you tell me the limb wood (elm?) and riser (stain?) on that bow? Weight and length? Looks great!
Great shooting and video. Physics though, come into play to cancel what you said about cast. Speed out of the bow, at a certain arrow weight, is the only thing that plays into cast. A longbow, shooting slower, does not somehow make up in some mysterious way, to throw an arrow farther.
Thank you and you are absolutely right.
Trailwalker 3R arrows. My practice arrows as well.
Great video! I have one of these bows on order. Will you make some more videos with this bow.
Yes I can make more videos with it. You will love the bow you get they make very good dependable no nonsense bows I've hunted with them for years.
Excellent shooting! Subscribed!
Thank you.
Fine shooting , I would love to see you review the cheap bow I got off Amazon (Black Hunter Longbow) 114 bucks . Just for kicks 🤷
Thank you. you found my review on it.
Nice shooting and u should chrony this bow. Saying it's fast by feel isn't that accurate but still works I guess. And yes longer bows are definitely more forgiving. I shoot a 48" and a 53" tatar. Bows longer than that are very stable but not always as fast. But that's a tradeoff.
Someone please give an explanation or definition of the term "forgiving ". As it relates to traditional archery.
Well done, good video.
Thanks man.
Great video. I recently did one on the Northern Mist Classic. I’m definitely not a Hill bow guy lol! But at least I know now and can say I’ve given the ASL an honest chance. Subbed to your channel. Great stuff 👍
Thanks! I'll check your video out. Have more videos coming as soon as I get my computer figured out.
I've been a longbow guy my whole life. I hate how most everyone went to recurves. I like recurves too but they simply aren't as cool.
You forgot to mention Howard Hill archery lol they build the best Hill style bow haha good vid
Lol definitely hard to beat the original. Thanks
Hi Matt. I sure enjoyed watching this video. I have wanted to try shooting a Hill style longbow for some time now. I currently am shooting a 45 pound reflex-deflex longbow made by Jeff Phillips at Instinctive Addiction Archery. It's a really nice bow and it shoots great. But I would still like to try one like yours. If you don't mind, what model of bow are you shooting from Great Northern?? Thanks Matt would sure like to hear from you. Thanks.
Jim
Its their traditional Longbow.
I recently bought a Bear Super Kodiak recurve. It was purchased purely out of nostalgia for Fred Bear. However, many years ago I went from a Red Wing Hunter (a great bow) to a Saxon Express longbow. I would never go back to a recurve. As for compounds, never. If you want a true religious experience, shoot either a long bow or recurve. A self-bow might even bring you closer to the creator. Oh yah, use wood arrows.
Nice man and yes longer bows are definitely more forgiving. I have a 54" angular bow and a 48" horsebow and short bows are fast but less forgiving. It's a tradeoff but of course draw weight comes into play and u can shoot a lower poundage both short and long accurately
Yes everything is a tradeoff best to have one of everything lol
Short bows actually aren't faster. The shorter the bow the less energy is stored as compared to the same draw weight in the longer bow. If you straightened your reflex deflex out it would probably be about the same length as the longbow.
@@larryreese6146 a short Native hornbow will shoot 172 fps at 22" whereas the longbow has to be drawn to 28-30 inches to achieve the same speed
@@larryreese6146 and no the bow is measured as they all are at ntn length. I've never gone with strung length. Short bows are generally faster because they have less limbs to move especially compared to a longbow. For instance piking a bow or making it shorter both increases the speed and weight of the bow. Less mass in the limbs means more speed.
@@larryreese6146 . A turkish bow is much shorter and can store way more energy than a longbow. It's about reflex/recurve that makes the bow fast. A turkish bow will always outshoot a longbow because of the energy storage in that short composite bow
Where did you get that bow at? (If you don’t mind me asking). I’d like to get a good one like that.
Its a great northern traditional longbow
Is there a big difference between a bear montana and a howard hill style bow?
The Montana actually has a slightly reflex deflex design and more of a dished out grip .
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Just a curios question, you mentioned that they are so quiet, jet you use string silencers ?
They love heavy arrows. Not much difference but great cast.
For fun I fletched a heavy fiberglass fishing arrow. Estimated weight was about 1300 grains. Two things really stood out. The arrow flight speed was a lot slower, but the penetration into a new hay bail was 1/3 deeper than with my standard arrows. (26” cedar shafts and 160 grain bullet points)
Nice video. I have a 68" Farmington Black Horn that I am pretty sure s a Hill style. Draws so smooth and is very forgiving just as you described your bow to be. Good insights and opinions you have on these style bows which I completely agree. Thanks Matt! Sub!
Let me ask I currently shoot a 64 inch longbow and I only have a 27 inch draw do you think a 68 inch longbow would b to long also I’m 5’9!
with a canted bow that shouldn't be a problem. just enjoy that smooth stable draw that a longer limb bow often provides.
Unless you have recurves forward of the back of the bow you're not getting that much more speed anyway. I like the Hill style bow.
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Not sure why, but when I searched Louie Armbruster your vid came up. Nice shooting. I’ve got a nice afore mentioned 79# Grevy Zebra.
Must be something to do with the algorithm UA-cam uses. Thanks man sounds like you have a nice heavy hitting bow there.
Have you shot one of those bows with a straight grip?
Great video!
What's your arrow setup?
190 grains on the end of a 32 in #75-#80 cedar arrow no tapper on this set but I prefer it
very thin bow, and a long riser
must be comfortable and seems forgiving
it's more important than the speed of the arrow (i don't understand this obsession)
the longbow is the bow of mature archers
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Would you want to come on my podcast and talk about traditional bowhunting
Look me up on Instagram or Facebook if you have it and we can talk about it. I haven't been very active on here
Ok I will
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So thats my problem! I keep waiting for the deer with a big target drawn on it 😉
I have taken deer just sitting in front of a wide Oak tree with short brush around me. Just cant move while they're looking at you.
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I love the ASL but I am afraid to say they aren’t forgiving. This is a common myth.
The ASL requires consistent form which isn’t a bad thing. There’s several reasons for this. First the grips are typically straight or slightly dished. hand placement and grip pressures are critical.
Mass weight is typically less making it very easy to move the bow arm off target at the shot.
They typically aren’t cut to center making arrow tune and sight picture a little more challenging
However there’s no feeling that compares to a well placed shot from a ASL, they give a unexplainable satisfaction level unique to them alone, in my opinion.
Secondly the “cast” theory is incorrect and another myth. The same arrow traveling at 150fps at 10 yards is going to slow and drop the same regardless if it was shot from an ASL or recurve. Simple physics. Speed is a way of measuring transferred energy so in one sense speed does matter but that’s a different topic.
There’s no more or less energy stored in the same arrow traveling 150fps.
The difference is typically ASL shooters are going to be using a heavier arrow which does help momentum down range.
A heavier object in motion retains more energy for a longer period of time again up to a point of Diminishing returns.
In part a bow can only transfer so much energy into an arrow. A heavy arrow Absorbs more of the stored energy in the bow limbs. Again there is limits in both directions when dealing with arrow weight. Another topic of its own.
Meaning for example a guy with a recurve and light arrow may not see the performance an ASL guy shooting a heavier arrow does and this the myth was started.
Take the same well crafted recurve with the heavier arrow with all other factors equal and the recurve will once again be on top proven by a faster arrow speed.
In other words at no point will an ASL that’s shooting 150fps with a 500gr arrow
surpass a recurve shooting the same arrow at the same speed due to a ASL’s “cast” ability.
A well crafted bow is a well crafted bow. True and with that in mind a recurve will always out perform a straight limb longbow.
A recurve by design and why it was designed transfers more of the stored energy in the working limbs pound for pound
A 45lb bow has 45lbs worth of energy stored in the limbs regardless if it’s an ASL, recurve, selfbow, R/D longbow etc. Bow design allows for more or less of that energy to be transferred into the arrow to the point of the arrow’s ability to absorb the energy transfer.
Here we could discuss why bows have hand shock,bow noise etc but we won’t.
The ASL is definitely a slower design but as you said if your looking for speed with traditional bows then you missed the point. They have plenty of speed as far as anyone should be shooting at live game or most will at targets.
When discussing pros and cons of anything. There’s hard facts, Circumstantial facts and also personal choices.
We could compare a recurve to a compound or a compound to a crossbow even a crossbow to a firearm but none of it would be a apples to apples comparison.
I choose to shoot an ASL not because it’s the best design based entirely on a performance scale but because it’s what I enjoy and it does everything i need it to do or for that matter any traditional archer would.
Anyone thinking about trying an ASL is doing themselves a disadvantage by comparing it to other designs.
None of this was to suggest there’s no advantages with the ASL design because there are some but again that’s not really why most will choose to shoot one.
It’s an ASL,enjoy it for what it is. I sure do.
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Is the limbs laminated
In my mind, with how much you can get away contorted positions and terrible form ,hill bows are the ultimate hunting bow.
You can actually have great form in many contorted positions.
@@tgwoolshirebut if you don’t……
@@DLB1858 Then you don't have good form and proper alignment.
Amen. I hunter the first day of deer season with a 52" recurve. The next day I hunted with my Hill Wesley Special 66" longbow. I can't explain it, but I felt a much greater connection to the woods with that bow.
Why is it called the hill style bow? Cuz it looks like a hill when its strung? What makes is American style? Cuz the Native Americans used it?
It is called Hill style bows because this kind of bow is bow of choice of the legendary Howard Hill.
This is how you stave off foes.
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Ya don't have to convince me...started shooting longbows more than 40 years ago...they're killers! Everything from waterfowl, upland game, and all manners of big game have fallen to my longbows
Thats awesome man, Its great to have all that experience hopefully you are sharing that hunting knowledge with other folks so we can keep the tradition going. Thanks for watching.
WHAT IS THE DRAW WEIGHT OF THIS BOW ?
65# @28 about #73 @ my 31
20:01 No archer's paradox, it's a myth, only nerds believe that,
Well...I'm going to keep tuning my bows with arrows of proper spine anyway. You do you.
The real potential of the American Semi Longbow is in the Hill Method of shooting. Designed for hunting by the worlds greatest archer Howard Hill. Great bow but for those watching the style of shooting is in contrast to its design.
Native Americans used longbows before Hill. Stop calling them Hill bows. 🤦♂️
Native Americans made self bows made from a single stave of wood , Sometimes they would back the bow with sinue , rawhide and other natural materials to make fantastic bows. This is a modern laminated wood fiberglass bow, This stile was made most famous by Howard Hill and that is why a lot of people call it a "Hill Bow" or "Hill Stile Bow" There are other names fore this bow but most just call it a Hill Stile bow. Very different than Native bows but I do build native self bows and will probably have one on here soon. There are many different longbows They are all named by the design of the bow but all considered a longbow.
Why do you look so awkward when you knock the arrows? You knock like a kid touching an arrow for the first time. How did you learn how to shoot, but never learned how to knock an arrow? I keep expecting to see you drop the arrow each time it looks so awkward.
I've learned To inspect my nocks while nocking an arrow when shooting in the cold, these plastic nocks in particular tend to get cracking going on and can break upon release. When your knock breaks its the equivalent of dry firing your bow in below freezing temps.
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