As a 14 year old girl, I started watching these Coronet instructional videos for a laugh, but I've come to the realization that I'm starting to take them pretty seriously!
I wish I saw this video or something like it when I was a teen. :/ It gives some good advice. Although someone who accuses me of "not being a good sport" for not trying a cigarette isn't someone I'd want to be friends with!
Something my mom told me when I was a little kid that has always stuck with me is that if your "friend" wants you to do drugs or something like that and they won't leave you alone about it, than they are not really your friend. Maybe that isn't the best advice for everyone, but it taught me I didn't have to engage in something potentialy dangerous because I might loose a "friend".
You do realize that without any sense of irony most parents in 1950s wanted to return to a people spoke in the Gay 90's there was a whole episode of Father Knows Best about it, for the parents learn their lesson when they were reminded how radical they were in the flapper 20s and how strange their speech idioms were. 23 skidoo! Its the bees knees daddy-o I was trying to be nice and funny but honestly you revisionist history types make me sick that was one of the worst times for individual free personal expression in human history and yet it's still the era of hard bop and the Daddy O and the greasers and you sure as hell don't know what you're talkin about oh, you're totally L7 Daddy-o.
you know, these old videos were so much more detailed, specific, and caring... I remember the "just say no to drugs" videos I saw in school showed more about the effects of drugs and those things, but barely showed any tactful moves for difficult pinches
The girls smoking at the pajama party could have been a future scene for the movie "Grease". All they needed were some Wild Irish Rose Wine and wigs and could sing about looking like Sandra Dee.
I can't vouch for it firsthand, since I wasn't alive in 1951, but I do collect these films and I'm quite familiar with the style. It's a genuine 50's Coronet short.
Funny to watch these little treasures from a time long past. Gosh how we have changed in our body language, not to mention the clothes! Amazing that they had the equipment to made this self improvement videos. Thanks for your channel shaggylocks
As a 14-year-old girl, I started watching them for serious advice, and realized even the 1950's are severely disconnected from my reality. Still, they're closer than anything modern, so yeah.
I was with a few girls after school. All great people, no jerks or bad people. But they were smoking, all of them. I was there but when one of the girls I arrived with asked if I wanted a cigarette, I sad no, but for a moment I was close to saying yes. But that's when I said to myself, "No, just because their doing it doesn't mean I should." Not to mention it would have been going against everything I stood for. Not to mention I was practically the DARE poster girl in School. Just in case you don't know, DARE stands for the Drug Abuse Resistance Education. It talked about the horrible effects drugs and drinking can and will cause. Also I was the one that got my Mother to stop smoking, I wasn't about to do it. After a few moments I said my goodbyes and left with no problems.
Good for you! I have some friends who drink and some friends who don't. Nobody pressures anyone to do what they don't want to do. A true friend respects you for who you are, what you stand for, and isn't going to force you into anything you're not comfortable with. Period.
If you tell a "friend" NO and they don't want to accept that as your final response and/or become offended when you turn them down...then they're really not your friend....why? because they DON'T RESPECT YOUR FINAL WISHES. If they DON'T TRULY RESPECT YOU as a person, then HOW do you expect them to respect ANY of your wishes or requests as well? It does not work that way. Gotta get real here. Don't pretend you didn't notice their inconsiderate behavior either, acknowledge it & show them the door.
Barbara Donegan lol your post reminds me of It's a Wonderful Life where the absolute worst fate Mary could have faced without her husband being in her life was having a job. "SHE'S JUST ABOUT TO CLOSE UP THE LIBRARY!!" xD
I think this video was excellent. It could still work for the same situations today. Sure the styles and the ways of walking are old but, really if you sort of went by the same script but changed the clothing and the expressions, the same situations do arise and even as a grown up saying no can still be akward and difficult.
It's so easy to tell preteens and teens to just drop the bad influence friends and to get nice ones..but the reality is totally different. Most young people are unsure of themselves, insecure, hormonal, and desperate to be part of a group. The last thing they want to do is stand out from the crowd. I was one of the rare ones who didn't care what my friends did, I did my own thing and it didn't include drinking, drugs, or sex..but I know that's not the way most kids are. It's so very hard being that age, I would never, ever want to go back to it!
No, it's not hard. If a "friend" can't accept your refusal to follow their example it shows how much he/she disrespects you as an individual and doesn't care for your true nature but wishes a companion to share unfavorable activities and behavior with. Actually, being straightforward and blunt without unnecessary drama is a sign of good friendship or close relationship. Sweet talk is not a sign of friendship, rather the opposite.
"You can't help getting into situations where petting is likely to start--and since I'm a female, I have absolutely sex drives and his desire to kiss me makes me confused and uncomfortable."
Marty has something going on with his mouth or he could be imitating Mr. Ed. I look like that when the dentist dobs that sour, grape flavored, fluoride on my teeth...
I think our moral decay started in the mid 50's with rock'n'roll and Bill Haley and his Comets and Elvis, Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, etc. and James Dean, and greasers. I think American Graffiti and Happy Days really show it well. But the early 50's and back were better especially the late 40's/ early 50's. The late 50's/early 60's was the first decade of teens then it was Vietnam in the mid 60's and hippies the second decade of teens which was the 60's/70's that we really got screwed up.
In smoking interactions, the girl smoker was actually being polite in offering a cigarette, but was not mature enough to take the refusal. BTW, a smoker here, but never push cigarettes on to anyone. But in smoking circles, offering cigarettes or taking one offered is actually polite. These kids are too young to be smoking and drinking anyway. The girl smoker I think will have children who are hippies.
I think a lot like you on the subject of decades, every decade goes in a pattern, the late part of one decade and the early part of the next decade are usually simular, when it comes to music, style, and cars, like we mentioned the late 50's/early 60's, greasers, cars with wings on the back, rock'n'roll, rockabilly, doo-wop. and the late 60's/early 70's which was hippies, and British rock'n'roll and muscle cars, and then the late 70's/early 80's, disco, then...
"I can't give up a friend just because of one little fault like that!" What fault? You mean the one where she's trying to force you to perform nasty, unhealthy, possibly illegal/definitely frowned upon behaviour? Yeah, sure, tiny fault, no big deal.
I'm big into rhetorical reasoning, even though I have cracked under the pressure when giving a NO for answer is the right choice. "Why is this important?" "Is this really going to benefit YOU?" and "If it doesn't, then what's in it for me?" would be the kind of questions I'd ask. Playing Devil's Advocate is fun too: I'm always looking for a good excuse to say NO, so you better work hard and earn your YES answers!
Jesus. So to avoid sexual assault I should avoid turning men on or getting alone with them? I should be ready to ask them about sports or pretend I'm hungry? No. I should be able to just say no and have it mean no. Just like that. No questions, no pushing, no angsty facial expressions. And with any man I'm interested in dating, "no" is enough. With opinions like this from only 60 years ago, it's no wonder we as a society still struggle with victim-blaming even today!
Actually, avoiding the turn-on and being alone with a man are really good ways to avoid sexual assault. If you been taught otherwise, someone lied to you.
@fantasyknuckleheads I had the same experience. If I declined to have a drink or a hit with the guys I hung out with, their response was, "Cool, more for me."
the 60's/early 70's also had pshycedellic rock and a different style of love songs than what the late 50's and early 60's brought us. and the late 70's/early 80's, also had punk rock. Then the late 80's/early 90's was mullets (hairstyle) and old school rap. and so on... today it's the late 2000's/early 2010's which is texting on cell phones, American Eagle, modern rap. The early 2000's were a lot like the late 90's.
and sometimes you have to ( regrets or not) ditch the friends[s] - they're not good company, and they won't be in the future, i.e. future drunkards, prematurely wrinkled with raspy voices, etc
1. If i say NO to a friend and loose him/her, then it was not meant to be my friend. 2.Sometimes face and even search for difficult situations is NEEDED!! so to learn to master them. 3.Aaaa common those 3 examples.... you know you're gonna to like them!!! >;D well at least number 1 and 3 :P....
Guy in the beginning: "Can Geico really save you 15 percent or more on car insurance? Are the kids behind this curtain discussing how to say no and still keep their friends?"
I didn't saw it this way. I think they are just telling her to be clear about what she wants in the first place, thus avoiding to have to say no to the misled guy. These situations are actually very tricky from the man's perspective. You don't know what she wants but can't ask it out loud either. You have to guess using other non verbal communication modes but they are not very reliable.
With Abstinence Only programs, alot of America still has this mindset. We think it's jurassic, but you'd be stunned to see how badly some people are trying to force the world to still have 1950s values.
I like how "stop hanging out with losers" isn't given as an option.
Hey look! It's Nora from the video "How do you know its love?" They also seem to be in Nora's house.
"No, I'd rather not smoke, but...Let's gossip about other people and spread rumors instead." That's a very moral approach
If you can't express yourself without the fear of being rejected from a friendship, it"s no friendship at all.
As a 14 year old girl, I started watching these Coronet instructional videos for a laugh, but I've come to the realization that I'm starting to take them pretty seriously!
I love that big mirror in the background it really brings others into the conversation/construction.
I wish I saw this video or something like it when I was a teen. :/ It gives some good advice. Although someone who accuses me of "not being a good sport" for not trying a cigarette isn't someone I'd want to be friends with!
Something my mom told me when I was a little kid that has always stuck with me is that if your "friend" wants you to do drugs or something like that and they won't leave you alone about it, than they are not really your friend. Maybe that isn't the best advice for everyone, but it taught me I didn't have to engage in something potentialy dangerous because I might loose a "friend".
Tavern Boy's mouth was weird as hell
I've noticed some of the views, lessons, and expectations these Coronet shows had are still present in modern Japan
Why don't people talk like this? It's more respectful and less annoying.
You do realize that without any sense of irony most parents in 1950s wanted to return to a people spoke in the Gay 90's there was a whole episode of Father Knows Best about it, for the parents learn their lesson when they were reminded how radical they were in the flapper 20s and how strange their speech idioms were. 23 skidoo! Its the bees knees daddy-o
I was trying to be nice and funny but honestly you revisionist history types make me sick that was one of the worst times for individual free personal expression in human history and yet it's still the era of hard bop and the Daddy O and the greasers and you sure as hell don't know what you're talkin about oh, you're totally L7 Daddy-o.
you know, these old videos were so much more detailed, specific, and caring...
I remember the "just say no to drugs" videos I saw in school showed more about the effects of drugs and those things, but barely showed any tactful moves for difficult pinches
This is so cute. We never think of giving young people this sort of guidance any more.
Hot Dog! That checkered shirt is sure swell! My haircut is just like Lucy's ... I'm really with it!
+Luann DeLuca Oh Luann, you tickle me pink.
+Luann DeLuca It's true; you're the most; to say the least. lol.
We need to bless the twenty-first century by bringing these kind of discussions back.
I like to sit on stage with my friends and discuss things that affect all of our lives, so that no one feels left out.
Marty looks terrified all the time.
+Susie Arviso LOL He really does. It's like "Hey Marty, you won the lottery!"
Marty- "Ohhhh mayunnnn...fucckkkk"
Marty was the only underage kid at a bar actually hoping to get carded.
The girls smoking at the pajama party could have been a future scene for the movie "Grease". All they needed were some Wild Irish Rose
Wine and wigs and could sing about looking like Sandra Dee.
I can't vouch for it firsthand, since I wasn't alive in 1951, but I do collect these films and I'm quite familiar with the style. It's a genuine 50's Coronet short.
Funny to watch these little treasures from a time long past. Gosh how we have changed in our body language, not to mention the clothes! Amazing that they had the equipment to made this self improvement videos. Thanks for your channel shaggylocks
oh, coronet films!where would we be without you?
As a 14-year-old girl, I started watching them for serious advice, and realized even the 1950's are severely disconnected from my reality. Still, they're closer than anything modern, so yeah.
"Don't be too preachy."
I hope the irony of that line wasn't lost on anyone at Coronet Films!
I was with a few girls after school. All great people, no jerks or bad people. But they were smoking, all of them. I was there but when one of the girls I arrived with asked if I wanted a cigarette, I sad no, but for a moment I was close to saying yes. But that's when I said to myself, "No, just because their doing it doesn't mean I should." Not to mention it would have been going against everything I stood for. Not to mention I was practically the DARE poster girl in School. Just in case you don't know, DARE stands for the Drug Abuse Resistance Education. It talked about the horrible effects drugs and drinking can and will cause. Also I was the one that got my Mother to stop smoking, I wasn't about to do it. After a few moments I said my goodbyes and left with no problems.
Good for you! I have some friends who drink and some friends who don't. Nobody pressures anyone to do what they don't want to do. A true friend respects you for who you are, what you stand for, and isn't going to force you into anything you're not comfortable with. Period.
That's really good. I was the girl who got up in front of the entire school and talked about DARE. It was fun. I still have the teacher
Mary doesnt want a cigarette. Shes dying for some weed. Loving those Lilt home permanents.
Yeah, we all know home perm papers were good for rolling one on the sly.
2:05 "Hi gang!" those arms! Trying too hard!
If you tell a "friend" NO and they don't want to accept that as your final response and/or become offended when you turn them down...then they're really not your friend....why? because they DON'T RESPECT YOUR FINAL WISHES. If they DON'T TRULY RESPECT YOU as a person, then HOW do you expect them to respect ANY of your wishes or requests as well? It does not work that way. Gotta get real here. Don't pretend you didn't notice their inconsiderate behavior either, acknowledge it & show them the door.
i love this more than i could ever explain.
Thumbs up If youve said yes to every one of these things as a teenager and loved every minute of it!
The guy at the start looks like a young Rod Serling.
okay now what kind of "friends" are they if you say no? If they get mad over you saying no lose 'em.
Why isn't recognizing when you're not being treated with respect from friends and boy/girlfriends and letting go of those people an option??
Pack mentality of the undeveloped brain
Barbara Donegan lol your post reminds me of It's a Wonderful Life where the absolute worst fate Mary could have faced without her husband being in her life was having a job. "SHE'S JUST ABOUT TO CLOSE UP THE LIBRARY!!" xD
What is going on with Marty's mouth? He looks like the "tragedy" side of a Greek theater mask.
I think this video was excellent. It could still work for the same situations today. Sure the styles and the ways of walking are old but, really if you sort of went by the same script but changed the clothing and the expressions, the same situations do arise and even as a grown up saying no can still be akward and difficult.
It's so easy to tell preteens and teens to just drop the bad influence friends and to get nice ones..but the reality is totally different. Most young people are unsure of themselves, insecure, hormonal, and desperate to be part of a group. The last thing they want to do is stand out from the crowd. I was one of the rare ones who didn't care what my friends did, I did my own thing and it didn't include drinking, drugs, or sex..but I know that's not the way most kids are. It's so very hard being that age, I would never, ever want to go back to it!
No, it's not hard.
If a "friend" can't accept your refusal to follow their example it shows how much he/she disrespects you as an individual and doesn't care for your true nature but wishes a companion to share unfavorable activities and behavior with.
Actually, being straightforward and blunt without unnecessary drama is a sign of good friendship or close relationship. Sweet talk is not a sign of friendship, rather the opposite.
"You can't help getting into situations where petting is likely to start--and since I'm a female, I have absolutely sex drives and his desire to kiss me makes me confused and uncomfortable."
yeah dont smoke but start a terrible rumour that will destroy someones life
After he said "how about talking this problem over?" at 10:15, I was about to say NO, to show what I had learned in an ironic way.
Marty has something going on with his mouth or he could be imitating Mr. Ed. I look like that when the dentist dobs that sour, grape flavored, fluoride on my teeth...
I think our moral decay started in the mid 50's with rock'n'roll and Bill Haley and his Comets and Elvis, Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, etc. and James Dean, and greasers. I think American Graffiti and Happy Days really show it well. But the early 50's and back were better especially the late 40's/ early 50's. The late 50's/early 60's was the first decade of teens then it was Vietnam in the mid 60's and hippies the second decade of teens which was the 60's/70's that we really got screwed up.
In smoking interactions, the girl smoker was actually being polite in offering a cigarette, but was not mature enough to take the refusal. BTW, a smoker here, but never push cigarettes on to anyone. But in smoking circles, offering cigarettes or taking one offered is actually polite. These kids are too young to be smoking and drinking anyway. The girl smoker I think will have children who are hippies.
exactly he was so serious but the faces he was making was killin me
Thanks for clearing that up.
I'm going to give in to peer pressure!
+monkeydanz And if you do ... then I will too!
I think a lot like you on the subject of decades, every decade goes in a pattern, the late part of one decade and the early part of the next decade are usually simular, when it comes to music, style, and cars, like we mentioned the late 50's/early 60's, greasers, cars with wings on the back, rock'n'roll, rockabilly, doo-wop. and the late 60's/early 70's which was hippies, and British rock'n'roll and muscle cars, and then the late 70's/early 80's, disco, then...
at 6:15 it goes from peer pressure to gossip
Me too.I was usually the one who misbehaved while all my other friends stood around asking "do you really think you should?"lol
Yes, the best way to avoid smoking is to tell someone else's business. I would have never known!
Man the 50s had an entirely diffrent feel than today.. So much class...What happend ?
"I can't give up a friend just because of one little fault like that!" What fault? You mean the one where she's trying to force you to perform nasty, unhealthy, possibly illegal/definitely frowned upon behaviour? Yeah, sure, tiny fault, no big deal.
"and if you make a 1 year subscription then i can ge...." " No" (walks back inside and shuts the door)
I'm big into rhetorical reasoning, even though I have cracked under the pressure when giving a NO for answer is the right choice. "Why is this important?" "Is this really going to benefit YOU?" and "If it doesn't, then what's in it for me?" would be the kind of questions I'd ask.
Playing Devil's Advocate is fun too: I'm always looking for a good excuse to say NO, so you better work hard and earn your YES answers!
02:04 - I am so going to be greeting people the way Howie does!! He is so cool!!!! :p
Bill's voice is epic.
'you have to got a bag full of tricks' haha how morals got twisted
Love this!
It happens all the time at pajama parties... turned out a great deal differently then most films on the subject have indicated....
this video is interesting in the way it's pretty realistic for its time
Shouldn't the waiter ask for ID and then its no for all of them?
Are youngsters here in 2012 really seriously having this type of discussion? Bless the early fifties.
OMG lmao MARTY LOOKS JUST LIKE MY FIONCE WHEN HE WAS 14!!!
+Veera Rose Oh Veera. You could do better than that.
More people should greet others like Howard at 2:05. He's cool. "Hi gang".
In fact, they're all winners!
Jesus. So to avoid sexual assault I should avoid turning men on or getting alone with them? I should be ready to ask them about sports or pretend I'm hungry?
No.
I should be able to just say no and have it mean no. Just like that. No questions, no pushing, no angsty facial expressions. And with any man I'm interested in dating, "no" is enough.
With opinions like this from only 60 years ago, it's no wonder we as a society still struggle with victim-blaming even today!
Actually, avoiding the turn-on and being alone with a man are really good ways to avoid sexual assault. If you been taught otherwise, someone lied to you.
he sounds like eddie haskel on leave it to beaver !
Thanks for the tips.
@JettWorship65 Haha! That's going to be my new greeting (complete with awkward, behind-the-head hand gesture).
9:55 "Distraction... *FART* ... Change the subject"
OMG! Marty!! I cannot stop laughing!! It looks like he's painfully revolted by everything he speaks about.
instead of saying NO, you just have to say you're hundry ! LOL
Good advice.
@fantasyknuckleheads
I had the same experience. If I declined to have a drink or a hit with the guys I hung out with, their response was, "Cool, more for me."
"well what about the problem of..of...BOYS!!!!" LOL
that's a profound statement.
real talk I have such a hard time saying no to ppl sumthing I am working on
Good actors...
There were folks having fun back then...check out Bettie Page photos ...aaahhhh....images from my youth !
the 60's/early 70's also had pshycedellic rock and a different style of love songs than what the late 50's and early 60's brought us. and the late 70's/early 80's, also had punk rock. Then the late 80's/early 90's was mullets (hairstyle) and old school rap. and so on... today it's the late 2000's/early 2010's which is texting on cell phones, American Eagle, modern rap. The early 2000's were a lot like the late 90's.
Howie's the "fun" guy.
and sometimes you have to ( regrets or not) ditch the friends[s] - they're not good company, and they won't be in the future, i.e. future drunkards, prematurely wrinkled with raspy voices, etc
1. If i say NO to a friend and loose him/her, then it was not meant to be my friend.
2.Sometimes face and even search for difficult situations is NEEDED!! so to learn to master them.
3.Aaaa common those 3 examples.... you know you're gonna to like them!!! >;D well at least number 1 and 3 :P....
Man, I wish I had a time machine.
this is honestly one of the funniest things ive seen since "why doesnt cathy eat breakfast?"
rockin! hugs!
Damn, you must be fun at parties.
NO! Don't talk to me! Or anyone else!
You just know all those kids were scroggin like bunnies around the studio.
HAHAHAHHAHAA "And Howie.." "Hi gang!"
Guy in the beginning: "Can Geico really save you 15 percent or more on car insurance? Are the kids behind this curtain discussing how to say no and still keep their friends?"
"These are my friends. We're a cult"
My Dads in this!
I want to greet everybody the way Howie does from now on..."Hi gang."
I didn't saw it this way. I think they are just telling her to be clear about what she wants in the first place, thus avoiding to have to say no to the misled guy. These situations are actually very tricky from the man's perspective. You don't know what she wants but can't ask it out loud either. You have to guess using other non verbal communication modes but they are not very reliable.
Howie needs to learn to say: "No means no"!! Especially when Bill is telling him "it won't hurt" and "I'll only put the tip in"...
wow drugs are really bad and dangerous this video has taught me to avoid them.
I kinda like the "and so ons"!
ohhhh Howie!! :D
Lucy looks like she's dressed for a 19th century funeral lol
With Abstinence Only programs, alot of America still has this mindset. We think it's jurassic, but you'd be stunned to see how badly some people are trying to force the world to still have 1950s values.
Kids/teens have been and always will be kids/teens. How do you teach your kids right from wrong?
I'm sorry I missed the early and late. The late 60's/early 70's was the hippie and the Vietnam era, drugs, they didn't want to work and etc.